Official Episode Discussion: S2 #8 "The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones"

[Machias Banshee]

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Well, after a (way too long) hiatus, we're finally getting to see some new episodes.

Casey Jones is going to transform into the hockey-masked vigilante that everyone knows and loves, and apparently the Rat King will be making a reappearance for this season. Better hope they know how to deal with the mind-control issue with Splinter... then again, there's something about a giant killer mushroom in a future episode, so maybe it's all a hallucination or something?

I really don't get WHY they're putting the show on Sunday morning at 11am... if they think the ratings will be better, more power to them. I won't be available to view it live, but the thread will be open in time for post-show comments. :)

[Shogi]

I'm curious if this is a permanent change or not (I looked at my DVR and it has TMNT at 11am on Next Sat and Sun.)

But it occurs to me that this week's episode seems to be all about Casey Jones, who is very sports themed and today is superbowl sunday...

[MrTMNT2012]

This Episode was absolutely FANTASTIC! :)

Epic fight scenes, great character development and one hell of an introduction to one of the greatest characters in TMNT.

Oh, and one of the best homages in the series yet. I won't spoil it, but great visual reference to the original Ninja Turtles Movie! :D

[Vicky82]

Wow I can't believe I already watched the new episode already, It was a great episode but I'll discuss the episode later when everyone else has seen it.

[snake]

I'm curious if this is a permanent change or not (I looked at my DVR and it has TMNT at 11am on Next Sat and Sun.)

But it occurs to me that this week's episode seems to be all about Casey Jones, who is very sports themed and today is superbowl sunday...

Yup, this is permanent.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Ok, how did Raph "Accidentally" hit Leo's ribcage? Also this episode seems eerily familiar to Casey Jones' first appearance in the 2k3 show.

[snake]

Excellent episode so far, I love Casey in this series.

[DarkLightDragon]

Ok, how did Raph "Accidentally" hit Leo's ribcage? Also this episode seems eerily familiar to Casey Jones' first appearance in the 2k3 show.


Same.

And cool, Casey said "GOONGALAAA!"

[NinjaPug]

Ok, how did Raph "Accidentally" hit Leo's ribcage? Also this episode seems eerily familiar to Casey Jones' first appearance in the 2k3 show.

Probably because both are based on Raph's one shot that introduced Casey Jones

[RaphAndDonnie]

Watching it right now and loving it. I've got to agree that it is sort of similar to how Raph and Casey met in 2k3. I like Irma and Casey and April's dialogue.

[DarkLightDragon]

Mikey's kind of being more of a unintentional jerk than usual in this episode.

-Burps in Don's face.
-Splashes popcorn in Don's face.
-Teases Raph about giving 10 seconds before flaring up again.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Nice reference to the original comic.

[DarkLightDragon]

Heh, Casey fainted at the sight of Splinter. The fear of rats is new.

What else is new is that earlier in the episode, Casey mentioned a sister. Maybe his nickname for her could be Shadow?

[NinjaMan]

One of the best episodes ever! Even has movie 1 references! Casey is awesome!!!! Him and Raph had an awesome fight scene.

[kelligrafie]

Splinter and April fighting ALONGSIDE the turtles!

Are we not even going to discuss how incredible this was?

I only saw 3/4 of the episode so I'm looking forward to getting the rest of it.

[Overlordofnobodies]

Heh, Casey fainted at the sight of Splinter. The fear of rats is new.

What else is new is that earlier in the episode, Casey mentioned a sister. Maybe his nickname for her could be Shadow?

More like Angel.;)

[Luckyday]

Ok. I don't care what anybody say about my theory. I know April has some kind of electroreception. I mean come on! The girl can sense robots.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Aside from Mikey being flandarized in this episode, overall it was an effective way to introduce Casey Jones.

[snake]

Splinter and April fighting ALONGSIDE the turtles!

Are we not even going to discuss how incredible this was?

I only saw 3/4 of the episode so I'm looking forward to getting the rest of it.

That was awesome!

Great episode! I can't wait for next week! I wish Irma had a bigger part though

[NinjaPug]

Really liked it. Good intro for Casey.

- Liked the homage to the Raphael one shot

- Loved the references to the 90 film esp Casey seeing Raph on the rooftop

- Great action sequence with Raph/Casey on the train and at the train station

- Good to see Splinter get in on the action

- I hope Casey's sister is Angel

- anyone else think Irma wasn't going to talk at first?

[NinjaMan]

Casey has become my favorite supporting hero. He is totally wicked in this version. What a great episode.

[CyberCubed]

Anyone notice they copied the scene from the first movie with Casey watching Raphael on the rooftop exactly?

[Electric]

the casey raph fight scenes were great. and seeing april and splinter fight with the turtles was awesome.

i also really liked how they introduced irma too, as just another character. no episode devoted to her introduction, or scene for it. after seeing her on aprils phone, and in the hall way earlier this season, i like how adding her was nothing out of the ordinary

[DarkLightDragon]

More like Angel.;)


Even better.

[TigerClaw]

Just finished watching this episode, I thought it was really good. :)

[snake]

Yeah, I thought Irma was going to be silent. She sounds sort of like April.

[CyberCubed]

I can't believe nobody mentioned that Splinter finally explained the Turtles names came from a Renassaince art book. They never explained this in Season 1.

FINALLY. Kids of today know where the Turtles names came from!

[snake]

I can't believe nobody mentioned that Splinter finally explained the Turtles names came from a Renassaince art book. They never explained this in Season 1.

FINALLY. Kids of today know where the Turtles names came from!

I think they knew that already. A simple google search would've told them.

[LH]

FANTASTIC debut for Casey! :tgrin:

Casey taking out the purple dragons was great!

Really liked his notebook Mirage sketch. :tlol:

It was great to see a fight involving April and Splinter! And April using her abilities with ease.

I liked seeing the subway tunnel set again... brought back some good memories. :twink:

Anybody else notice the "Users are Losers" poster in the modern subway station? :tlol:

I like Irma! I hope we get to see her again soon! :tsmile:

I loved Casey's attempt to jump scare the guys with his face paint. :tlol:

Was this April's first time calling them all by full names?

Glad to have new episodes back! :tgrin:

[Vicky82]

Brilliant and intence Episode.

Purple Dragons are back
Casey taking out the Purple dragons was great
Raph vs Casey fight scene was epic and intence.
Casey spotting Raph on the roof was a reference to the original movie
April and Splinter fighting alongside the Turtles was wicked
Raph and Casey fighting the Foot Bot on the train was also epic
Eastman name on Casey's hockey stick
Irma in the episode and talking
Casey thought the Turtles were Italian :lol:
We know why Raph hid into his shell, he saw a cockroach that Mikey was holding.

I think Donny should start thinking about putting up some security in the Lair.

[snake]

Welcome back LH, haven't seen you in awhile.

[LH]

Welcome back LH, haven't seen you in awhile.

Hey Snake! Glad to be back! :tsmile:

[NinjaMan]

I love how Casey and Raph bonded at the end. What a great episode. This season has been awesome. Gonna watch this one at least 10 more times lol.

[snake]

I love how Casey and Raph bonded at the end. What a great episode. This season has been awesome. Gonna watch this one at least 10 more times lol.

Season two gets better with every episode.

[Luckyday]

Yeah, I thought Irma was going to be silent. She sounds sort of like April.

Maybe it just me but doesn't she seems more of an alpha friend of the two? Hmm...interesting.

[Donatello19]

Best season 2 episode yet (I say that every week, don't I? :lol:) Casey was just amazing, I can't wait to see more of him. I really like his relationship with Raph. Splinter and April fighting the Foot at the end was great, and for a second I did actually think that their location would be given away. It was interesting to hear that Casey has a sister and a Dad in this incarnation. Irma was pretty cool too, I like her voice and design. There were a lot of references! The whol "anger plot" and the introduction to Casey felt just like 2K3, the introduction of each turtle and why their names are like that, and Casey's drawing in his notebook was a mirage comics style turtle! Sweet! I could keep rambling, but let's just say I loved it and won't rest until I find the Casey Jones action figure.

Also, in the promo for the next episode, you can see April in all white clothing at the end. Brace yourselves...April Derp is coming...

[Electric]

i also really liked mikey in this episode, even though he didnt do too much. He had his typical obnoxious little brother attitude, with the counting down and the cockroach, but it seemed less, immature? and then when raph and casey and leo were sitting there arguing when the foot came in the lair, mikey just ran straight through them and started fighting. i definitley think hes maturing and i love it

[snake]

Maybe it just me but doesn't she seems more of an alpha friend of the two? Hmm...interesting.

Yeah...Hopefully she appears more.

[NinjaMan]

This episode was best animated version of introducing Casey to me. Enjoyed it so much. Ranks up there with the Gauntlet for me.

[snake]

Also, in the promo for the next episode, you can see April in all white clothing at the end. Brace yourselves...April Derp is coming...

It seemed the turtles were escaping with her. Maybe the clone looks like her until it goes bad and turns into that ugly thing.

[ObiWanFan4life]

For starters, I like that it didn't take long for Casey and the Turtles to be made aware of each other. So far, I like this Casey, but I'll wait till later in the series to judge his character. So far, so good.

[snake]

^^ same thing with splinter, he got over him pretty fast.

[ObiWanFan4life]

^^ same thing with splinter, he got over him pretty fast.

Well, I guess I won't have to worry about the love triangle subplot.....yet.

[NinjaMan]

^^ same thing with splinter, he got over him pretty fast.

Speaking of Splinter, I hope he takes Casey under his wing and trains him some. He's raw and a good fighter but imagine how he would be with the proper training. What a difference between Casey and the Pulverizer.

[snake]

Well, I guess I won't have to worry about the love triangle subplot.....yet.

I hate the love stuff, but that's why some people watch it.

[Desslok]

Awesome episode! Highlights:


Casey Jones and Raph meeting and fighting together for the first time.
http://i.imgur.com/IWFWmO0l.png

The first onscreen appearance of Irma.
http://i.imgur.com/Jb6h3rll.png

And this... The awesomeness speaks for itself.
http://i.imgur.com/8xvl7l4l.png

Honestly, one of my favorite episodes to date. There were a lot of fun spots and appreciated throw backs in this one.

[Cure]

It's a little weird to me that foot bots don't have some kind of uplink to their headquarters, but whatever. Good episode.

[cryan]

Loved it and Irma got a speaking part as well.I do like the fact that they added Casey to the intro toward the end.

[Garfield]

Pretty cool episode.

I like this version of Casey.

Did you catch the first ninja turtle movie reference when Casey was watching Raph on the roof. Awesome!

Its official, that's Irma.

One thing I like, is the design of the background of the Subway. its very gritty and dingy and Caseys design fit it well with his gritty wear.

I think I'm liking this version of Raph and Casey friendship, it very rough and tumble, Well it usually is, but I thing this version has and extra slap in the head and more hugs.

[blindturtle02]

Great to have TMNT 2012 back with all new episodes, even if it's on a different day. Having the threat of revelation ever present throughout the intire third act had my heart pounding until the foot bot was dispensed with. Loved seeing the purple dragons getting their butts handed to them by Casey. And speaking of Casey, lovin his portrayal here. Seeing Irma also rocked, and it sounded to me like she was voiced by Ashley Johnson. I think whoever predicted that in the Irma involvement thread was probably spot on. And next week's episode is going to be just as excellent btw. Will we be seeing Casey again, I wonder? Kraang Conspiracy is listed as ep 208 so I doubt it. Brilliant episode and I'm ready for more.

[Luckyday]

It seemed the turtles were escaping with her. Maybe the clone looks like her until it goes bad and turns into that ugly thing.

Oooh geez, that will be some can of nightmare fuel for Donnie.

[MiBs]

Great episode! Definitely one of the best of S2, I really think the writing is getting better and better. Great fightscenes as well - the tension in the Leo/Raph fight, and the animation in all of them basically. That they make an effort of showing some great ninja skills with a lot of details, I really enjoy. And that they got Nick on board with the idea that it's ok to go for the Kraang and footbots heads - otherwise Raph couldn't have finished the footbot the way he did, which would've been a damn shame :D

And of course as many of you said: The Casey introduction, the rooftop scene from the first movie, Splinter and April joyning the fight and Raph/Casey.


i also really liked how they introduced irma too, as just another character. no episode devoted to her introduction, or scene for it. after seeing her on aprils phone, and in the hall way earlier this season, i like how adding her was nothing out of the ordinary

I totally agree. It's not like I'm against Irma beeing a (bigger) part of the show, but I like it when they keep it to one storyline per episode and don't throw in to many subplots or side stories

[Electric]

I totally agree. It's not like I'm against Irma beeing a (bigger) part of the show, but I like it when they keep it to one storyline per episode and don't throw in to many subplots or side stories

Exactly. I wouldn't mind Irma being more important. I hope she is! But this episode was about Casey, and rather than holding out on introducing Irma until her own episode, which I'm sure we'll get later, we get to start seeing her now.

[Shark_Blade]

Nice episode. I made a thing (http://sharkblade.tumblr.com/post/75380043161/tmnt-2012-origin-tmnt-2003-origin) since I love the origin bit. :tgrin:


TMNT (2012) Origin

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https://31.media.tumblr.com/66014cff5c38210d265bae823c425c2c/tumblr_inline_n0dorhMKYE1rsn209.png

TMNT (2003) Origin

https://31.media.tumblr.com/8f54ebb15c5c273426e173a35739ca8b/tumblr_inline_n0dos2ZpoQ1rsn209.png

TMNT (1987/OT) Origin

https://31.media.tumblr.com/b9fd3bfbafe8898c9876c237b7e5034b/tumblr_inline_n0dostlJRp1rsn209.png

TMNT (1984/Mirage) Origin

https://31.media.tumblr.com/b70cd1d60ab7aad1c8863de30342d6b6/tumblr_inline_n0dotjwj781rsn209.png

It has all come to full circle guys

https://31.media.tumblr.com/9ad8aa903b77ecc9365b154f3860fabe/tumblr_inline_n0dp3cBuaG1rsn209.png


Oh and I was so excited when they finally show Irma. :tlol:

[BabyTurtles]

LOVED IT!!

Casey and Raph bromance!! *_*

Irma seemed cool!!

Mikey seemed jelly at the end.....could be me.

and the best part! NO DONNIE FLIRTING WITH APRIL!! this is the best day ever!

also Casey is left-handed...BONUS.

[CyberCubed]

I"m surprised there was no Donnie/Casey interaction. He was quite jealous of him in the previous episodes.

[ObiWanFan4life]

LOVED IT!!

Casey and Raph bromance!! *_*

Irma seemed cool!!

Mikey seemed jelly at the end.....could be me.

and the best part! NO DONNIE FLIRTING WITH APRIL!! this is the best day ever!

I know. I gotta say, I'm liking this Casey more and more, he reminds me of Xander Harris. (Google it if you're confused. )

[blindturtle02]

Exactly. I wouldn't mind Irma being more important. I hope she is! But this episode was about Casey, and rather than holding out on introducing Irma until her own episode, which I'm sure we'll get later, we get to start seeing her now.

Rather similar to the way they introduced Casey in Mutagen Man Unleashed, I think. The writers love giving you these intriguing character cameos and they certainly pay off later on. I've no doubt that we'll be seeing an Irmacentric ep eventually.

[CyberCubed]

I wish they explained why that last Foot soldier was so much more competent at fighting than the others.

[BabyTurtles]

I know. I gotta say, I'm liking this Casey more and more, he reminds me of Xander Harris. (Google it if you're confused. )

pfft...you just assume I need google...........*googles it*

oh okay I see~ Casey needs an eye patch.

[MiBs]

Rather similar to the way they introduced Casey in Mutagen Man Unleashed, I think.

I actually thought "Mutagen Man Unleashed" had a bit too much going on. It was a bit messy IMO

[ObiWanFan4life]

pfft...you just assume I need google...........*googles it*

oh okay I see~ Casey needs an eye patch.

I don't think you understand HOW he got it.

[snake]

I wish they explained why that last Foot soldier was so much more competent at fighting than the others.

Maybe because it was the commander or something?

[drgon78]

Great episode

-I am starting to like this version of Casey a lot.

-April used psychic ability.

-Irma was in it and had some speaking parts.

-Casey bonding with Raph

-Casey afraid of rats

-Raph being called out about being afraid of roaches.

-April at school interacting with people.

-Splinter kicking butt.

-Voltron wannabe cartoon again.

The only thing I didn't like really was that Irma's scene was so short.

[snake]

I actually thought "Mutagen Man Unleashed" had a bit too much going on. It was a bit messy IMO

Really? Target: April O'neil had much more going on and I loved it.

[raphmike]

Anyone notice they copied the scene from the first movie with Casey watching Raphael on the rooftop exactly?

yeah, and raph throw sai to popcorn bag same as movie when he throw to donnie's
beween legs wood floor.

[Shark_Blade]

Irma has a different personality- more bookish and intelligent kinda type I guess. She also seems intimidating and not boy hungry lol. :lol:

Overall, I can get by with the change. Loving it. :tlove::tgrin:

http://i.imgur.com/QmkLWyS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/30L3JN3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5OVukHz.png

http://i.imgur.com/LKvsayR.gif

Kinda reminds me of Edna Mode for some reason. :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/iVVDLI7.jpg

[blindturtle02]

I wish they explained why that last Foot soldier was so much more competent at fighting than the others.

Perhaps Karai is programming squad leaders now? That felt like a boss battle in a videogame to me. I liked it. They might address the issue. I'm hoping so anyway. Cure brought up a good point with the uplink.

[snake]

Perhaps Karai is programming squad leaders now? That felt like a boss battle in a videogame to me. I liked it. They might address the issue. I'm hoping so anyway. Cure brought up a good point with the uplink.

That's what I said. It would be cool if they had markings to indicate they were the leader.

[BabyTurtles]

also April said Raph's name! finally.

[snake]

also April said Raph's name! finally.

She never said it before?

[Shark_Blade]

also April said Raph's name! finally.

She did? Oh you mean the introduction of each turtles by name. ._.

Not like she talked TO him or anything (how sad this is lol). :lol:

[BabyTurtles]

She did? Oh you mean the introduction of each turtles by name. ._.

Not like she talked TO him or anything (how sad this is lol). :lol:

hey!! it still counts! :D progress~

@snake: no she never said his name before...weird right.

[CyberCubed]

I'm sure Irma will get more screentime in the future. This was just a quick intro for the character.

[MiBs]

Really? Target: April O'neil had much more going on and I loved it.

I didn't get the same feeling with "Target: April O'Neil", I liked that episode a lot. Maybe it had a better flow, if you know what I mean.

[snake]

I didn't get the same feeling with "Target: April O'Neil", I liked that episode a lot. Maybe it had a better flow, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, MM unleashed did have quite a bit going on in it.

[MiBs]

Yes, with the stealth exercise, Donnie/April, April/Casey and Mutagen Man. That's enough material for two episode.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Hmm, I wonder how they'll fit derp April in the next episode.

[Luckyday]

It seemed the turtles were escaping with her. Maybe the clone looks like her until it goes bad and turns into that ugly thing.

Also, it was just a split second, but one of the turtles weren't wearing a mask. It look like Donnie.

[snake]

Yes, with the stealth exercise, Donnie/April, April/Casey and Mutagen Man. That's enough material for two episode.

That makes me wish it was a two parter.

[Coola Yagami]

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2014/02/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-34-good-bad-and.html Our thoughts on this episode. It was pretty good I have to say, possibly the best fights between Raph and Casey we've ever seen animated. And the Foot were actually a threat. No wonder Shredder replaced the useless human Foot with the more superior robot models.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I don't know why, but that fight on the train reminds me of the matrix or the Wolverine.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

So yeah um that's got to be my favorite episode so far. Full of turn-up-ment. Too much good stuff to list it all. Favorite part was the movie reference.

[JTH]

Hmm, I wonder how they'll fit derp April in the next episode.
Probably nothing much, the episode will probably end on a cliffhanger showing a normal April clone has been completed.

And something will happen to it in a later episode.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Probably nothing much, the episode will probably end on a cliffhanger showing a normal April clone has been completed.

And something will happen to it in a later episode.

We can only hope.

[pannoni1]

Fantastic episode, it really could have been part of the first Turtles movie while keeping many familiar goodies with this show. Think of that last Foot Soldier as Nick's Alpha-1. Great use of backgrounds during the subway battles, from the signage to the cars, including a clever message on a wall. This ranks right up there with the Raphael Micro, Meet Casey Jones from 4kids, and the Casey/Raph/Foot battle scene in the 1990 movie. Gotta love the Power Ranger/Sentai references with Mechaforce. Looking forward to the next TCRI meeting (some Movie II references perhaps, now that Rahzar is included?)

It was nice to see this Irma, now with purple hair and perhaps a bit younger than April (Biology tends to be a sophomore year class, not to mention she's shorter).

Overall: 9/10

[kelligrafie]

Irma has a different personality- more bookish and intelligent kinda type I guess. She also seems intimidating and not boy hungry lol. :lol:

Overall, I can get by with the change. Loving it. :tlove::tgrin:

http://i.imgur.com/QmkLWyS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/30L3JN3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5OVukHz.png

http://i.imgur.com/LKvsayR.gif

Kinda reminds me of Edna Mode for some reason. :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/iVVDLI7.jpg

Did we all notice generic blonde lady in the corridor. I'm pretty sure the guy in the blue shirt was in the office that Baxter Stockman attacked in his robot of doom.

SO WHAT'S HE DOING IN A HIGH SCHOOL?

[Ninjinister]

Did they say Irma's last name at all in the episode? I haven't seen it yet.

(For that matter, I don't even remember it being mentioned in the original show, either)

[JTH]

"The Good, The Bad, and Casey Jones" IGN Review:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-good-the-bad-and-casey-jones-review?abthid=52ee9ccb5696e0554600000b

[NinjaPug]

Did they say Irma's last name at all in the episode? I haven't seen it yet.

(For that matter, I don't even remember it being mentioned in the original show, either)

The IGN review says its Langinstein

[Raven]

Except for a few, few small things this episode was perfect. There was some really great nods to past meet ups from Casey and Raph. The training session in #2, the roof top spotting from the movie and a few other great nuggets.

One thing that really stood out for me was the soundtrack for this episode. It felt more epic and nuanced (Not that the others haven't). There was a part of me that was wondering if the guitar rift that came in with Casey was a nod back to the 1989 movie?

Great episode! 9/10 for me.

[Ninjinister]

The IGN review says its Langinstein

That's not what I asked.

[drgon78]

Casey did say he has a sister though I doubt Irma will be it but it would have been interesting if they were related....maybe cousins or something.

The train fight did remind me of the train fight in the Wolverine movie a lot.

Also does anyone remember what Irma's last name was in OS Turtles?

[VaughnMichael]

I'm probably the only one who didn't like this very much.
As much as I love this new show I'm just not a fan of this kid Casey.
I'm still not really a fan of April either so I guess I just don't like bratty jerky teenagers. *shrugs*
It just all seemed to happen to fast for me with Raph and Casey just meeting and becoming the best of friends.
Yet when they met Tim they treated him like total crap.
I have to wonder if the lair is compromised now though since Casey lead the Foot to it.
That was the only thing I think I liked about the episode.
I know a lot of you like nonstop action but I like a bit of story to go along with it and I felt it wasn't really there this time.
I also find it really hard to believe Casey could take out the Purple Dragons and fight Raphael so well.
Plus I just want to say I feel like they've really dumbed down Mikey which every show seems to do at some point or another.
Oh I almost forgot to mention Irma, not as cute or funny as the clumsy old toon version but the voice did sound a bit like the 80's version which I thought was cool.
Here's to hoping I enjoy next weeks episode better with the big April secret!
I give this episode a 3 out of 5.

[Ninjinister]

Casey did say he has a sister though I doubt Irma will be it but it would have been interesting if they were related....maybe cousins or something.

The train fight did remind me of the train fight in the Wolverine movie a lot.

Also does anyone remember what Irma's last name was in OS Turtles?

Everything says it was Langinstein (which is why I don't buy IGN's review as canon if it wasn't said in-show). I don't remember it ever being mentioned in OT, but reportedly it was.

[cryan]

According to IMDB Irma's last name was Langinstein in the OT.

[Ninjinister]

According to IMDB Irma's last name was Langinstein in the OT.

Again, NOT REMOTELY a source that we can use.

[BabyTurtles]

I'm so proud of Donnie for not letting his love for April make him instantly mean to Casey when April introduced them.

I was expecting a frown....but no, he actually smiled XD I'm so happy!!

[Allio]

Mikey said "Super Sentai" he is a toku bro

[BabyTurtles]

Mikey said "Super Sentai" he is a toku bro

you mean otaku? :)

also Kate Micucci voices Irma

[kelligrafie]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2177528/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Has been in Big Bang Theory AND voiced a character called Parry in surprisesurprise TEEN TITANS GO.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/a172f55aeb5a16b6a215cea7339e00e6/tumblr_inline_n0dxqauyZL1ra1x32.jpg

[raph27]

Best ep of Season 2 so far!
Finally, Casey Jones! I loved him. LOVIN the skull mask. Awesome Mirage drawing in his notebook.
Foot in the Lair....finally! That was awesome, especially Splinter.
Raph's got issues...:teek:
Only thing I HATED about this ep was air date. Why Sundays?

[NinjaPug]

That's not what I asked.

No, they didn't say her last name in the episode.

[Allio]

you mean otaku? :)


No, I mean Toku as in Tokusatsu, it's a genre with shows like Ultraman, Kamen Rider, Godzilla, Garo , and Super Sentai (Mikey has referenced Ultraman and Kamen Rider in this show already with the nick comics also referencing them)

[CyberCubed]

I can't believe it took them till Season 2 to explain the renassaince names of the turtles. The previous cartoons did it by episode 1 and 3 respectively.

Thank goodness they did though. I was worried they would forget.

[Allio]

I was worried they would forget.
Why are you the only one to care when no one else would?

[JTH]

I can't believe it took them till Season 2 to explain the renassaince names of the turtles. The previous cartoons did it by episode 1 and 3 respectively.

Thank goodness they did though. I was worried they would forget.
I can't believe it took until it happened for you to bring up it hadn't happened.

I was worried you forgot...:D

[Donatello19]

That IGN review brings up a good point, don't the Foot already know the turtles' location? (They sent Karai and two Mousers there in the Season 1 finale)

[bridgegrn]

Lol, I said damn out loud when Raph body slammed Casey on to the hood of that car. Raph definitely did a number on his face too. Pretty cool episode. I'm hoping for a Raph and Casey vs Slash type situation now.

[NinjaPug]

That IGN review brings up a good point, don't the Foot already know the turtles' location? (They sent Karai and two Mousers there in the Season 1 finale)

Technically they were just in the sewers on the way to the lair but the fact that Kirby was under their control he could've easily told the Foot where the hideout is.

I can't believe it took them till Season 2 to explain the renassaince names of the turtles. The previous cartoons did it by episode 1 and 3 respectively.

Thank goodness they did though. I was worried they would forget.

I didn't realize they hadn't explained that yet. I just assumed they did that in the first couple of episodes. The fact that I knew the reasoning for the names is why I probably overlooked the fact that they didn't say it.

I'm glad they finally did.

[bridgegrn]

That IGN review brings up a good point, don't the Foot already know the turtles' location? (They sent Karai and two Mousers there in the Season 1 finale)

Hmm good point, though Karai wasn't there. Maybe the mouser just traced April's dad to that location using that mind control device. But either way we can just assume that they don't have that information.

Though, since we know Shredder is putting together a better army to fight the turtles and we know the turtle's home is compromised at some point, what if the Shredder does know and he's the one that reveals them to the world to flush them out and then goes to take them out with his new warriors.

[Donatello19]

Hmm good point, though Karai wasn't there. Maybe it just traced April's dad to that location using that mind control device.

In the episode Raph says something like "I swear if that Foot Soldier gets to Karai and gives away our location, YOU can explain to Splinter"...

[bridgegrn]

In the episode Raph says something like "I swear if that Foot Soldier gets to Karai and gives away our location, YOU can explain to Splinter"...

I'm talking about the Season 1 Finale, not this episode. Raph says that to Casey in today's episode.

[JTH]

In the episode Raph says something like "I swear if that Foot Soldier gets to Karai and gives away our location, YOU can explain to Splinter"...
Technically the Turtles don't know that ever happened, they were already gone to the TCRI building to destroy the portal when all that transpired.

And since Splinter was real hush about everything else that happened then, presumably you're led to believe he didn't bring that up either.

[TigerClaw]

IGN has posted there review of this episode.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-good-the-bad-and-casey-jones-review

[TurtleTitan97]

Awesome episode. Loved the reference to the first movie, and the fight scenes. And Casey was awesome! :D

[Ninjinister]

IGN has posted there review of this episode.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/02/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-good-the-bad-and-casey-jones-review

http://www.jesusaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/HomeroRepost.png

[NinjaMan]

So good to have the core 7 together now. This is my favorite version of Casey by far.

[BubblyShell22]

That episode was epic! A great birthday present for me and an awesome return for the Turtles! Loved the fights with Raph and Casey as well as Irma's appearance. I can't believe she actually spoke! I didn't think Raph would hurt Leo like that, but at least he apologized for it. At least Raph and Casey are friends now though. Also loved the movie reference with Raph on the roof and Casey spotting him. He was just missing that radio and had his journal instead. Overall, a pretty good ep! Can't wait for more for sure.

[NinjaMan]

That episode was epic! A great birthday present for me and an awesome return for the Turtles! Loved the fights with Raph and Casey as well as Irma's appearance. I can't believe she actually spoke! I didn't think Raph would hurt Leo like that, but at least he apologized for it. At least Raph and Casey are friends now though. Also loved the movie reference with Raph on the roof and Casey spotting him. He was just missing that radio and had his journal instead. Overall, a pretty good ep! Can't wait for more for sure.

Happy Birthday! The music during the train fight and subway chase was very awesome. Loved that track.

[ObiWanFan4life]

That episode was epic! A great birthday present for me and an awesome return for the Turtles! Loved the fights with Raph and Casey as well as Irma's appearance. I can't believe she actually spoke! I didn't think Raph would hurt Leo like that, but at least he apologized for it. At least Raph and Casey are friends now though. Also loved the movie reference with Raph on the roof and Casey spotting him. He was just missing that radio and had his journal instead. Overall, a pretty good ep! Can't wait for more for sure.

I don't see how Raph could have "Accidentally" hit Leo's Ribcage like that, but whatever.

[BubblyShell22]

I didn't notice the ribcage shot. I just remember he jumped Leo from behind and it looked like he hit Leo in the head and took him down that way. Raph just said that because he wanted to cover up that he was angry about Leo winning.

And thanks for the birthday wishes, NinjaMan. Been good so far.

[CyberCubed]

Casey is a skilled fighter for a kid. Taking out street thugs, Foot robots and even Raph? I think he was a little too good a fighter, after all he's only like 16 or something right?

[JTH]

Casey is a skilled fighter for a kid. Taking out street thugs, Foot robots and even Raph? I think he was a little too good a fighter, after all he's only like 16 or something right?
He uses weapons.

I could beat up some people when I was 15-16 if you gave me a steel pipe or something right? :lol:

[Vundi]

Casey is a skilled fighter for a kid. Taking out street thugs, Foot robots and even Raph? I think he was a little too good a fighter, after all he's only like 16 or something right?

So are the turtles. And outside of being a sports nut they haven't given this Casey a proper origin story. Who knows what other kind of training the writers might give him?

[Shogi]

Hmmm, let's see...around age 16 I believe I was near the mid range of belts in Taekwondo (Blue belt or so) Which means I had already broken boards, sparred in tournaments and even learned the basics of Nunchuks and short sticks. I could also already shoot rifles fairly decently and could definitely swing a sledgehammer, let alone a bat...........and I was just a toy geek, not even a sports geek who played hockey like Casey

[Powder]

Kate Micucci... Be still my heart.
What a pleasant surprise hearing her do a voice (Irma) on TMNT! I loved her on both Scrubs & Till Death, she's a qt and pretty funny. Hope there's more of her come.

This episode was a fanboys dream. Sooooooo many nods to the first film, comics, etc. & yet it had so much new too! Perfection.

[Allio]

*Casey hating mutants

Did he not notice the giant mutant in his school?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8034923776/hCE74141B/

[Ashwolf]

any1 possibly have a link 4 it, not able 2 catch it on tv

[NinjaPug]

It's on iTunes

[Donatello19]

*Casey hating mutants

Did he not notice the giant mutant in his school?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8034923776/hCE74141B/

...what? What giant mutant?

[Allio]

...what? What giant mutant?

You don't see Slederman's kid back there

I'm allowed one "I'm a terrible comment" once in awhile

[Bossa Nova]

Holy crap, this episode was AMAZING. I find it sort of amusing that we've had what, 3 episodes with Casey in it and he's already so much more developed than April. His and Raph's first meeting....PERFECT. And finally! A reaction to Master Splinter like a real person! And, and, AND, my biggest fear didn't come true! The second April walked in and Casey was there, I was already gearing myself up for some stupid awkwardness with Don, and there wasn't any! Of course, that doesn't mean there might not be some later on, but for Casey's first introduction I'm sooooo happy all that garbage was left alone.

Two amazing episodes in a row, color me impressed!!

[DonatelloNinja82]

That episode was epic! A great birthday present for me and an awesome return for the Turtles! Loved the fights with Raph and Casey as well as Irma's appearance. I can't believe she actually spoke! I didn't think Raph would hurt Leo like that, but at least he apologized for it. At least Raph and Casey are friends now though. Also loved the movie reference with Raph on the roof and Casey spotting him. He was just missing that radio and had his journal instead. Overall, a pretty good ep! Can't wait for more for sure.

Happy birthday, Bubbly!!

I LOVED this episode...the references to the mirage comic and the first movie, character development for Raphie-boy...Casey's intro...just cannot say how much I loved this one...

[BabyTurtles]

Holy crap, this episode was AMAZING. I find it sort of amusing that we've had what, 3 episodes with Casey in it and he's already so much more developed than April. His and Raph's first meeting....PERFECT. And finally! A reaction to Master Splinter like a real person! And, and, AND, my biggest fear didn't come true! The second April walked in and Casey was there, I was already gearing myself up for some stupid awkwardness with Don, and there wasn't any! Of course, that doesn't mean there might not be some later on, but for Casey's first introduction I'm sooooo happy all that garbage was left alone.

Two amazing episodes in a row, color me impressed!!


no love stuff! it's a miracle right!

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/053/6/a/pinkie_pie_dancing_with_her_hooves_by_rainbowxrari ty1-d5vu3mt.gif

[Allio]

no love stuff! it's a miracle right!

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/053/6/a/pinkie_pie_dancing_with_her_hooves_by_rainbowxrari ty1-d5vu3mt.gif

Someone say Miracle Light?
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/1/15812/458524-00078kqk_super.jpg

Neo Saban is going to screw over the Precure dub... it's like they are out to destroy everything I love

[Bossa Nova]

no love stuff! it's a miracle right!

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/053/6/a/pinkie_pie_dancing_with_her_hooves_by_rainbowxrari ty1-d5vu3mt.gif

I could dance with Pinkie all night on that one XD

Plus I also noticed that in this episode and the last one that the fighting seems MUCH more fluid and well thought out. I was pretty disappointed in a lot of the fight scenes in season one, but especially today's episode the choreography seemed particularly well done.

[snake]

I could dance with Pinkie all night on that one XD

Plus I also noticed that in this episode and the last one that the fighting seems MUCH more fluid and well thought out. I was pretty disappointed in a lot of the fight scenes in season one, but especially today's episode the choreography seemed particularly well done.

I thought S1 had good fights, Raph and Spyder Bites was pretty good for an early episode.

[billbot85]

I thought this episode rocked! Great nods to the 1990 movie, the comic with the Casey artwork, and the Super Sentai reference was just great. I was overall impressed with the amount of action in this episode, really kept you glued to what was going on. Raph and Casey's encounter was just near perfect, although I agree with some of you that they became buddies a little too fast.

Nonetheless, I hope they continue an ongoing rivalry between them. :tgrin:

[Jeff]

I've been super critical about this series, and still don't dig Casey too much, but this was an example of an episode done well. It had the classic Raph meets Casey Jones, while feeling fresh and not corny or dumbed-down. The only negatives I have for this episode are Irma's irrelevance and Raph's lack of development and perpetual anger induced temper tantrums. I'd say this is in the top 3 episodes so far, behind "The Gauntlet" and one of the recent Karai episodes...the title is slipping my mind right now.

[snake]

I've been super critical about this series, and still don't dig Casey too much, but this was an example of an episode done well. It had the classic Raph meets Casey Jones, while feeling fresh and not corny or dumbed-down. The only negatives I have for this episode are Irma's irrelevance and Raph's lack of development and perpetual anger induced temper tantrums. I'd say this is in the top 3 episodes so far, behind "The Gauntlet" and one of the recent Karai episodes...the title is slipping my mind right now.

"Follow The Leader"? Is that the Karai episode?

[bigk4062]

Ok so first thought seeing the Casey/Raph fight... I feel like I remember reading an article about the 2007 movie that the Raph/Leo fight was suppose to end the same way (with Raph almost stabbing Leo in the face with his sai instead of hitting the roof next to him) and it surprised me they did it with this show... great scene though!!!

[Jeff]

"Follow The Leader"? Is that the Karai episode?

yeah, i believe it is

[Retro-Specs]

That was awesome. Great fight scenes, and awesome to see Jones and Raph battling atop a subway and in the station - and of course, Splinter being able to fight again.

I like how Raph and Casey were suddenly pulled together, over the similar ways of dealing with bad guys - just like it should be. They got kind of violent - moreso than the somewhat goofy encounter of the 1990 movie (And I'd've died if they'd used one of the old lines - "Cricket? Nobody understands cricket!..."), but it never went too far.

I'll just out and out say it - once again, Leo is a jerk. Yeah, he's been taught by Splinter than being "fair" means you don't ensure victory, sure. But I think he really targeted Raph, right as he was sparring with Mikey, then immediately went to bow to his master - and soak in victory. It felt like he was treating Raph like he was just another Foot soldier - "last turtle standing" or not. I'm with Raph - I'd loose my cool there too, and perhaps even do what Raph did. After all that, Leo could have taken the apology for what is was, instead of rubbing it in Raph's face, making him say it louder and louder.

But enough belly-aching, this was an awesome episode. Looking forward to more.

[Shark_Blade]

Ok so first thought seeing the Casey/Raph fight... I feel like I remember reading an article about the 2007 movie that the Raph/Leo fight was suppose to end the same way (with Raph almost stabbing Leo in the face with his sai instead of hitting the roof next to him) and it surprised me they did it with this show... great scene though!!!

I remember that one.

http://i.imgur.com/Fr5CnIu.gif

[snake]

I wonder if Ciro or someone saw it and decided to use it.

[MikeandRaph87]

The lair was broken into by Casey Jones and foot soliders that easily? This needs to be a lesson learned for them especially Raphael.The foot soliders are not able to trace it but perhaps a early warning system that Don installed in the '87 cartoon would be in order.

[bigk4062]

I remember that one.

http://i.imgur.com/Fr5CnIu.gif

Yea so I'm not nuts!!! :D It amazes me how 'violent' this show is sometimes... I remember Nick as a kid and it was either comedy shows like Salute Your Shorts or gross humor like Ren and Stimpy... I don't remember many shows being like this and I find it very enjoyable, much better than sponge bob!!!

[BabyTurtles]

I've been super critical about this series, and still don't dig Casey too much, but this was an example of an episode done well. It had the classic Raph meets Casey Jones, while feeling fresh and not corny or dumbed-down. The only negatives I have for this episode are Irma's irrelevance and Raph's lack of development and perpetual anger induced temper tantrums. I'd say this is in the top 3 episodes so far, behind "The Gauntlet" and one of the recent Karai episodes...the title is slipping my mind right now.

Irma wasn't irrelevant it was just an introduction...to show she exists....

so then when they make an episode about her it won't be like "who is this girl?" "where'd she come from?" "she's april's friend? since when"

know what I mean? :D

also not to say you are wrong about Raph's temper tantrum problem again.
But I really think his bad temper has to do with Spike....he doesn't have him to talk his problems out anymore.....no outlet. That's why Casey is important, cause he can be all rough and tough with him and get all that crazy energy out XD

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Absolutely LOVE this interpretation of Casey! Easily my favorite since Elias Koteas. He's essentially a hybrid of Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver and Kick-Ass.

[Drose18]

pizza is yummy

[victory_angel]

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

She's had a screen presence of 30 seconds, what's there to hate?

[BabyTurtles]

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

well...no....

we've only seen a minute of her....and she only had a few lines.

but even then, she seems like a cool girl, what's to hate?

[Bossa Nova]

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

I don't hate her. But I admit I am a little weirded out by the fandom's obsession with her, especially since her OT presence was annoying and boy-crazy creepy. Why doesn't Angel get this kind of love? She's actually kick-butt, interesting and full of potential.

[BabyTurtles]

I don't hate her. But I admit I am a little weirded out by the fandom's obsession with her, especially since her OT presence was annoying and boy-crazy creepy. Why doesn't Angel get this kind of love? She's actually kick-butt, interesting and full of potential.

........I wish Angel was in the show................:cry:

[Cure]

Does anyone else hate Irma yet? I do!

Not yet, but I have a feeling I will.

[Jester]

I kinda like her, but I'm one of those people who isn't bothered by Darcy in Thor.

EDIT: I also hope we learn that Casey's sis is indeed this universes Shadow Jones.

[Technogeek29]

Positives~
-I love the homage to both the first movie and The Mirage Comics.
-Splinter was fighting in this episode
-Irma finally appeared hopefully kept some of her funny quirks.
-Splinter wasn't just a wise old rat giving advice.
-Love that Casey is a nut job with a heart of gold (didn't like the OT)

Negatives~
-Mikey was pulling stunts I expect from 2k3 Mikey.
-Don and Leo we're barely in it although this gets a pass.
-Don was literally a punching bug in this episode.
-April's telepathic powers are stronger (when did that happen?)

Edit: I wonder if Shadow is Casey's younger sis?

[CyberCubed]

How can anyone possibly hate Nick's Irma already given she's said one or two lines?

We have no clue what they'll do with her or if she'll become annoying or not.

[Jon_Talbain]

I really enjoyed this episode. I barely even blinked when Casey and Raph started fighting. I wasn't expecting Casey to be able to rip to that level yet. That is just too much raw potential.
It was great seeing April with Splinter again and seeing everyone fight together. I guess Raph has a new best friend...I still hope we can see Slash again soon. Maybe now Slash will have
a new complex against humans if he gets jealous of Casey.

[CyberCubed]

I kinda like her, but I'm one of those people who isn't bothered by Darcy in Thor.

EDIT: I also hope we learn that Casey's sis is indeed this universes Shadow Jones.

I assume his sister would be Angel...

[Jester]

I assume his sister would be Angel...
Why?

It'd be nice to finally see a universe outside for Mirage with Shadow. heck...as his kid sis it's perfect. She's called "Shadow" because she's always right behind Casey.

[nimajneb]

Loved the little Casey dialogue at the start.
loving this ep.

[slingtheory]

just finished watching the episode and its officially my favorite of the season so far. caseys vigilante debut did not disappoint. I was skeptical of a kid casey at first but now he's on his way to being my second favorite version of the character. he even looks badass in the theme song standing silently in the background. Even as a teen casey proved himself to be a capable fighter, almost too good at times but I guess that's what bravery and being (almost) fearless does for you. the fight scene with raph was very well done. I especially like how he seems to be a little more clever then usual here with all the gear he's made. the call backs and homages to past tmnt were awesome not only because they were unexpected but because it showed the obvious love the minds behind the show have for the characters and their history. overall the whole episode was really a well done updated version of rapheal # 1. also I'm very happy that they didn't waste anytime introducing casey to the rest of the guys. I was expecting them to stretch it out but glad to see they got it out of the way.
final thoughts
-loved seeing the whole team fight together for the first time.
-always great to see splinter show that he's a ninja master.
-the turtles brotherly interactions were great as always.
-thankfully they didn't bother with the love triangle at least for this episode
-this looks like the beginning of a beautiful bromance

[thejlb]

Casey was awesome.

[Colonel Schrader]

Casey is a skilled fighter for a kid. Taking out street thugs, Foot robots and even Raph? I think he was a little too good a fighter, after all he's only like 16 or something right?

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

[Allio]

How can anyone possibly hate Nick's Irma already given she's said one or two lines?

We have no clue what they'll do with her or if she'll become annoying or not.

I've seen people hate for less

[Powder]

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

I completely agree with you on that point. That's all I was gonna say, but then I realized, you could kinda justify it. When Raph's angry like that, he's not at his best. Across the universes, this has been a constant. His anger clouds his judgement, slows him down, strips him of his focus, etc. Maybe we'll see him whip Casey's butt in a future episode (over taking issue with Donnie, perhaps?).

[Allio]

I assume his sister would be Angel...

Why?

It'd be nice to finally see a universe outside for Mirage with Shadow. heck...as his kid sis it's perfect. She's called "Shadow" because she's always right behind Casey.

I've always seen Angel as the other universes' answer to "Shadow"

but why not let his sister be angel who would be attached to Casey in which case Casey nicknames "Shadow"

[Shark_Blade]

I just assume Casey's a natural fighter.

Though seeing his thinly shaped breadstick body being tossed and hammered savagely by Raph, I'm surprised he didn't break in two. :tlol: Not bad Jones.

[Zulithe]

Maybe derpril isn't a clone at all... it's a failed 'version' of her the Kraang made before they made April herself, a perfected version of... whatever it is they were working on.

That would be a little more horrific than a clone, at least IMO.

Desslok: I know you have had it for a while, but I never complimented you for your sig... I just love it so much, haha.

http://i.imgur.com/BadEskb.png

[MiBs]

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

I completely agree with you on that point. That's all I was gonna say, but then I realized, you could kinda justify it. When Raph's angry like that, he's not at his best. Across the universes, this has been a constant. His anger clouds his judgement, slows him down, strips him of his focus, etc. Maybe we'll see him whip Casey's butt in a future episode (over taking issue with Donnie, perhaps?).

I agree with you, but I actually thought more about it during the subway chase/fight, he just seemed a bit to skilled. But the episode has far more on the plus side, though.

I don't know how much time has passed since "Target: April O'Neil", but I guess it makes sense if Casey has been training his fighting skills ever since, and first goes into vigilante-mode, when he feels ready.

[Candy Kappa]

Just because someone knows martial arts doesn't mean they can't lose a fight against a non-practitioner. There's been a lot of cocky karate Black Belts getting their asses whooped when deliberately looking for trouble on a Saturday night.

[Powder]

Maybe derpril isn't a clone at all... it's a failed 'version' of her the Kraang made before they made April herself, a perfected version of... whatever it is they were working on.


Dude, that is an amazing theory. I bet you're right. :tgrin:

I don't know how much time has passed since "Target: April O'Neil", but I guess it makes sense if Casey has been training his fighting skills ever since, and first goes into vigilante-mode, when he feels ready.

Well, on that note, Ciro said on Facebook that this aired 'out of order', so maybe there's a scene in a future episode intended to air prior to this one that shows him doing exactly that.

[marcelangelo]

just saw the episode and I was pretty amazed...I love this one!;)..the homage to the first movie was great and watching it I immediatelly wondered if the animators would watch and rewatch that scene while working that one out.this show is animated for the most part in india, right?I think to remember that up to 20 or 30 per cent of an episode was animated in canada and the majority of the animated footage is done over in india...
but my mind immediatelly pointed out:aww they messed up the way raph is stopping his workout on the roof and touching the wall;)hahaha..in the movie he goes one hand after another..you can sort of feel with the motion when watching the movie;)but thats only nitpicking and doesn't impact at all how nice it was to see them palying off of that scene;)
all in all, I really liked how casey wound up with the turtles and how they fought along side...I only asked myself why it was important for them to catch that scanning footbot before he GIVES AWAY their location when he surely must have had the possibillity of emailing that info away or something along that line;)...I mean they are ROBOTS...FIGHT ROBOTS even.hahaha..but of course it could be that they don't have coverage down in the sewers...
love that the toitles are back!
oh and I agree..raphs anger makes him a lesser skilled fighter.you could see that in the comics, in 2k3 and here;)

[Shark_Blade]

raphs anger makes him a lesser skilled fighter.But didn't he say "my anger makes me a better fighter!" in Turtle Temper? Guess he's just deluding himself. :toops:

[blindturtle02]

Why?

It'd be nice to finally see a universe outside for Mirage with Shadow. heck...as his kid sis it's perfect. She's called "Shadow" because she's always right behind Casey.

Jester, lovin that notion. Can't just go out and read the comics, and I've always been interested in the Shadow character, so hoping you're on to something there. My first thought was that she could be Angel but seems like your Muse got more sac time than mine did the other night. Sucks that they aired this ep out of order. Next week's ep is listed as 208, at least on Wikipedia. Someone pointed out that the Kirtzmen sceen shown last year had some sort of caption during the preview identifying it as ep 8 of s2. Hoping we get to see a bit of Jones training in the following episode since I'm guessing the guys haven't met him yet in that one.

[MiBs]

But didn't he say "my anger makes me a better fighter!" in Turtle Temper? Guess he's just deluding himself. :toops:

Yes. Isn't it basically the lesson Splinter is trying to teach him

[marcelangelo]

But didn't he say "my anger makes me a better fighter!" in Turtle Temper? Guess he's just deluding himself. :toops:
haha, NICE catch, compadre!;)I didn't really think of that line even though that is one of my favourite episodes from the entire show,)....
I guess he IS...ah, kids..they forget so soon...I guess now I KNOW why splinter's fur is often painted grey...he must be worrying about his forgetting sons all the time;)

[Jester]

I've always seen Angel as the other universes' answer to "Shadow"

but why not let his sister be angel who would be attached to Casey in which case Casey nicknames "Shadow"
The thought crossed my mind of a merger as well. :P

[rodster6]

It bothered me how good a fighter Casey is, taking out foot ninja robots left and right but I still enjoyed the episode and it made me like the new Casey more too.
I'm disappointed that the foot robots are here to stay. I never liked that in the old show. When a leader can only command mindless robots it makes them seem a weak leader.
Hope Irma won't be to prominent in the show. To many humans gets boring, especially if she is as annoying and pointless as in the old show.

[bigk4062]

I never thought I'd say this but April really is starting to annoy me... It really does seem like she's turning into a Mary Sue in this series... The only explanation I can come up with about her mental powers is that she can somehow detect Kraang technology in her mind but the mystery really needs either solved or at least explained a bit... can't wait till the next episode!!!

[zaktheneutrino]

I loved this episode and it very well could be my favorite so far as I don't recall being that pleased after an episode from the new series! The resemblance of Mirage and Movie 1 had me smiling like a kid on Christmas. I also disagree to an extent about Casey being a great fighter already. Raphael had a chance to polish him off with his sai but stopped. Also, as Powder said, Raphael isn't at his best when he completely loses his temper. Maybe it would have been better to see Casey get beat up a bit and fail as a crime fighter but let's face it, 22 minute episodes can only show so much.

[Luckyday]

I never thought I'd say this but April really is starting to annoy me... It really does seem like she's turning into a Mary Sue in this series... The only explanation I can come up with about her mental powers is that she can somehow detect Kraang technology in her mind but the mystery really needs either solved or at least explained a bit... can't wait till the next episode!!!

She has active electrolocation. People can sense non-living objects by generating electric fields and detecting distortions in these fields using electroreceptor organs.

[BubblyShell22]

I know many are probably wondering why Raph still has a temper even after he supposedly learned his lesson in "Turtle Temper." The thing is, flaws are always going to be there no matter what. I have a temper myself and though I often try to control it, sometimes it still pops up. Same goes with Raph. His temper and anger will always be there, and I agree that it probably has to do with not having Spike to confide in anymore and that he's on his own.

I've never read the comics, but I agree that having Casey's sister be Shadow would be cool. I'd rather have Angel be a separate character. I'm making Angel Xever's sister in one of my stories because I just thought that would be cool.

[MiBs]

I know many are probably wondering why Raph still has a temper even after he supposedly learned his lesson in "Turtle Temper." The thing is, flaws are always going to be there no matter what. I have a temper myself and though I often try to control it, sometimes it still pops up. Same goes with Raph. His temper and anger will always be there, and I agree that it probably has to do with not having Spike to confide in anymore and that he's on his own.

I have absolutely no problem with Raph not learning the lesson right away. I think it's great that the show takes its time. I also like that Raph talks to himself like that, it reveals a bit more about why he is losing his temper all the time. Guess that Spike listened to a lot of angry **** over the years

[Coola Yagami]

I wonder how slash will react whenever he sees raph and Casey. Their little kick-butt duo team up at the end was exactly the kind of team that slash wanted with raph. First he's gonna blame raph for letting him fall off the roof and then he's gonna be pissed that he was replaced by some kid.

[Colonel Schrader]

I completely agree with you on that point. That's all I was gonna say, but then I realized, you could kinda justify it. When Raph's angry like that, he's not at his best. Across the universes, this has been a constant. His anger clouds his judgement, slows him down, strips him of his focus, etc. Maybe we'll see him whip Casey's butt in a future episode (over taking issue with Donnie, perhaps?).

true, i forgot about that.. that episode where the bro's were insulting him and he couldn't even dodge the arrows.

[Coola Yagami]

true, i forgot about that.. that episode where the bro's were insulting him and he couldn't even dodge the arrows.

The main thing is even at his worst you still have to be a presto awesome fighter to dodge all of Raph's attacks and prevent from being mauled. But then again Casey showed himself capable of taking down robot foot ninjas.

[blindturtle02]

I have absolutely no problem with Raph not learning the lesson right away. I think it's great that the show takes its time. I also like that Raph talks to himself like that, it reveals a bit more about why he is losing his temper all the time. Guess that Spike listened to a lot of angry **** over the years

My thoughts exactly. We're certainly getting character development but I'm thinking it's going to take its time which is fine by me. SOmetimes, lessons don't sink in as fast as our mentors would like and I'm wondering if the writers decided to explore that a little. Also liking where Coola Yagami's going pertaining to Slash. I'd love to see his reaction. Thinking we undoubtedly will soon enough.

[Jon_Talbain]

Did anyone notice how surprised Raph was when he hit Casey into the dumpster and Casey got right back up? When Casey got up so fast, Raph looked so shocked and scared.

[MiBs]

SOmetimes, lessons don't sink in as fast as our mentors would like and I'm wondering if the writers decided to explore that a little

Like Splinter being frustrated? He seemed to be, after Raph punched Leo in the beginning of the episode. It would be interesting if they explored that more.

And yes, Slash's reaction to Casey! A Raph/Casey vs. Slash fight would be pretty sweet

[blindturtle02]

Like Splinter being frustrated? He seemed to be, after Raph punched Leo in the beginning of the episode. It would be interesting if they explored that more.

And yes, Slash's reaction to Casey! A Raph/Casey vs. Slash fight would be pretty sweet

Exactly. Splinter's like every other parent who keeps having to repeat him/herself. I liked that bit. And oh yeah, totally with ya there regarding the Raph and Casey vs Slash fight. Oh I bet we're getting one of those sooner or later. Well it's a pretty safe bet, I think.

[nimajneb]

A really, really fantastic episode.
I think the animators worked over time with this ep.
Especially the scene with Casey on the roof overlooking the hustle and bustle ready for a night on patrol.
Also the foot set piece battle was phenomenal.

I guess we're not going to see any more human foot now.
The old plot device of making the henchmen robots so we can see some real damage being rolled out, but it makes sense - Whats the point in having weapons if you can't use them.

[bigk4062]

She has active electrolocation. People can sense non-living objects by generating electric fields and detecting distortions in these fields using electroreceptor organs.


I missed that part of the show thanks for clearing it up :) Still is a little much for me but at least it makes sense now!!!

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I finally watched this episode and I gotta say, I was really impressed! There were many nods to the Mirage comics, the 2k3 series, and the first film. That part where Donnie called Raph a baby while he was sitting next to Mikey and Raph threw something at them was just like in the first movie. And I love that drawing that Casey did of the Mirage counterparts of him and Raph. I thought that was really cute. And finally, Irma appeared in this episode. I was worried that it was going to be another cameo appearance but she actually made a full debut. And she talked! We don't know much about her in this show but I already like her more than her OT version of whom I found incredibly annoying. The biggest change for me was Raph losing his temper and this time Leo was his target instead of Mike. The way how it was done though was really fitting, though.

The only minor nitpick I had was Casey's fear of rats. Not a huge deal but hopefully Splinter can help him conquer his fear. Otherwise, great episode.

[snake]

Did anyone notice how surprised Raph was when he hit Casey into the dumpster and Casey got right back up? When Casey got up so fast, Raph looked so shocked and scared.

Casey's fighting abilitys are impressive for a kid. Raph still did a number on his face.

[Technogeek29]

In celebration of Raph's new friend I found this

https://31.media.tumblr.com/5050149b8ddcaadda7bb72d3ef32afba/tumblr_n06uyjYG2Q1svkzffo1_500.gif

[Jon_Talbain]

Casey's fighting abilitys are impressive for a kid. Raph still did a number on his face.

Casey was very impressive, I let out a yell or excitement before I could help myself. Because Casey was swinging that bat and hockey stick like a ninja or samurai master. All I could see were blurs....I really was surprised. Yeah, Raph wanted to impale his face for a second too. Wow.

[VaughnMichael]

I completely agree with you on that point. That's all I was gonna say, but then I realized, you could kinda justify it. When Raph's angry like that, he's not at his best. Across the universes, this has been a constant. His anger clouds his judgement, slows him down, strips him of his focus, etc. Maybe we'll see him whip Casey's butt in a future episode (over taking issue with Donnie, perhaps?).
He also took out a bunch of Purple Dragons which while I know are not the best fighters I don't think Casey would have the skills to take them like that.
Maybe derpril isn't a clone at all... it's a failed 'version' of her the Kraang made before they made April herself, a perfected version of... whatever it is they were working on.
I'm thinking the same thing.

[Candy Kappa]

Seems like the Dragons migh need some improvements like the Foot, more members then just 3 would probably do.

[DONATELLO DUZMACHINES]

In series filled with great action scenes, the fight on the train is probably my favorite! I love the way the footbots move its so creepy, when he used the momentum of the train to fly towards Casey and Raph, that was pure win.

[CyberCubed]

Seems like the Dragons migh need some improvements like the Foot, more members then just 3 would probably do.

Wouldn't be surprised if we see a human Bebop and Rocksteady join their gang soon.

[VaughnMichael]

Wouldn't be surprised if we see a human Bebop and Rocksteady join their gang soon.
I sure hope so!

[Ninjinister]

Wouldn't be surprised if we see a human Bebop and Rocksteady join their gang soon.

They'd better be Chinese! All of the Purple Dragons in this show are Chinese! If Bebop and Rocksteady are Purple Dragons and not Chinese, I'll stop watching it and spam Ciro with e-mails until he goes bald!

[victory_angel]

Seems like the Dragons migh need some improvements like the Foot, more members then just 3 would probably do.

It's sort of hinted the Purple Dragon's are more then just those three members. For example in Mouser's attack when Fong hands April's phone to Dogpound he says "One of our guys swiped this..."


The animators only had the budget for Fong, Tsui, and Sid. So we may see more.

[Icebot]

Very good to have Irma back! I love the way she looks!

[JTH]

The episode itself was very good, however I'm really puzzled as to why they aired this episode before "The Kraang Conspiracy".

Yeah, I'm sure they felt this episode was a good follow up to the Slash episode, but I feel they should have kept this part of the story in order.

"Kraang Conspiracy" is supposed to be April's first episode back since reuniting with the Turtles, now that they've flipped these episodes around, the manner will seem awkward from the show before. Which will also mean Casey more than likely won't be in this upcoming episode either since he hasn't met them also.

Hell, April's last appearance ended with her hugging and kissing Donnie on the cheek, to zero interaction at all. I also remember reading someone's comment that Donnie was like an afterthought in this episode and looked weak. I definitely agree with that, Donnie seemed...lost in my view. I'm almost wondering if something happened that would cause that.

I don't know, maybe I'm nit-picking, but April's story is very important and flipping episodes around that effect her story continuity I feel is a bad idea.

[Raph's Girl]

Ok. I finally got to see the latest ep of TMNT which was basically yet another version of "Meet Casey Jones" (altho it's usually Mikey that Raph is about to kill...this time it was Leo... huh..). I loved the ep and twas a nice cameo for Irma (I wonder who voices her?).

But what got me was something Casey said. He has a sister. Um...what? A SISTER?! For 30 years he was an only child and now he has a sister?! I wonder what her name is??

[CyberCubed]

Yeah Casey saying he has a sister is a weird line to say if they don't plan on introducing her. There was no reason to mention any siblings if they didn't plan on showing them.

I think it might be Angel, and it would be a nice way to bring her into the series rather than her just being Casey's friend like in 4kids and IDW.

[Cure]

Or maybe it was just a line to show Casey's motivations.

[Raph's Girl]

Or maybe it was just a line to show Casey's motivations.

Yes. He's motivated to protect his dad, little sis, and April. No mention of a mother.

[Gabriel GP]

I liked pretty much of this episode, after all casey are one of my favorites characters from tmnt, but i think that they committed the same mistake of 2003's series. They made a plot that was made to be two episodes in one.At least is what i think. Of course that I want to see Casey team up with Raph and became best friends and all that kind of stuff. But that dosen't mean that i want to see this happens in less than five minutes. Just my opinion though.

[CyberCubed]

Or maybe it was just a line to show Casey's motivations.

They could have just mentioned his Dad though. Giving him a little sister line wasn't there for no reason.

[Jon_Talbain]

In series filled with great action scenes, the fight on the train is probably my favorite! I love the way the footbots move its so creepy, when he used the momentum of the train to fly towards Casey and Raph, that was pure win.

I liked that scene too, that footbot on the train seemed stronger than the others. And after that fight, I want to see how they handle Raph and Casey's next team fight.

[The Sports Warrior]

Great episode! I've always liked this new Casey since he was introduced on the show. He seemed to me like a kid who I could imagine growing up to be like the Casey from the first movie, who was always my favourite incarnation of the character. The thing that really took it to the next level in this ep was the 'Travis Bickle factor' he had goin' on!

One thing I wish is that I hadn't seen his painted face on the action figure before seeing the reveal in the ep. Lost it's impact a bit :\

[Leofan26]

So wait, they aired these episodes out of order? Didn't know that :-?

I miss the 2003 Casey, while I got used to the 2012 version now I still don't like him as much, though Josh Peck did do an excellent job on his voice.

Donnie did seem a little off right now, maybe some thing really did happen last episode, maybe between Casey x April?

I've always been a big fan of Raph / Casey's friendship, always fun so :D

I'm still getting used to this Irma version but so far I'm liking her :D

Action was great, poor Leo though :(

Over all, pretty good. Boy am I glad the shows back :D

[Vundi]

I think they made him 2 tough 2 fast.. That was my only problem with this episode. He held his own against raph who has been training his whole life..

How do you know Casey hasn't been training his whole life too? They haven't given him a proper origin yet. Right now he's just some kid April goes to school with.

[Bossa Nova]

How do you know Casey hasn't been training his whole life too? They haven't given him a proper origin yet. Right now he's just some kid April goes to school with.

Agreed. We've seen what happens when some average kid who has probably never sparred before in his life (Timothy) tries to get in on the action. It isn't pretty. But from what we've seen, Casey isn't afraid to take a few punches and really put in the actual effort to make it a fair fight. For all we know he's taken martial arts classes before, or hell, has been in enough street fights to have learned how to defend himself. Unlike April, who never told Splinter she'd ever learned any sort of martial art before he offered to train her, we don't know that Casey is going into this totally blind.

[bigk4062]

I felt bad for Mikey at the end... looks like he might be jealous of Casey for taking Raph away from him....

[BabyTurtles]

I felt bad for Mikey at the end... looks like he might be jealous of Casey for taking Raph away from him....

so I wasn't the only one that saw that! :D

https://31.media.tumblr.com/95d545f966c62807169cfc45866cd66c/tumblr_n0evmt5SW31ts12seo1_400.png

this isn't the screen shot with his pouty face though

[Zulithe]

Yes i definitely caught the dad and sister part, and I do hope they explore it eventually. Seems clear to me that nick threw that in there to give them something cool to work with down the line when we eventually get to meet her. I like that they seem to be expanding the world a little bit. So many of the human characters in TMNT seem to have no family other than parents, why not have some siblings in the mix? They don't have to play a big part, though someday they could.

[NinjaMan]

Man imagine how beastly Casey can be if Splinter trains him. His raw power and fighting is quite impressive. I think I've watched all his fight scenes at least 20 times now lol.

[sdp]

Nice introduction to Casey Jones. I like his mask but it feels weird it not being his regular mask. It's like changing Superman's colors for the sake to be different. Good episode but I don't understand why the show is so conservative in some things like this and so radical in others.

[blindturtle02]

so I wasn't the only one that saw that! :D

https://31.media.tumblr.com/95d545f966c62807169cfc45866cd66c/tumblr_n0evmt5SW31ts12seo1_400.png

this isn't the screen shot with his pouty face though

Thanks for reminding me! I sort of gave it a little thought but totally forgot about that bit due to studying for exams and all that. Fiance mentioned his expression briefly but we didn't think much about the implications until you guys brought it back up.

[snake]

They could have just mentioned his Dad though. Giving him a little sister line wasn't there for no reason.

It was probably to show he wants to protect his family. I guess you can say the same about his dad with that logic.

[Gabriel GP]

I could say that this Casey is probably the best incarnation of him so far, and that is REALLY a surprise to me, even it not being an adult, he still kicking butts.

But I'm hoping from the bottom of my heart that they manage to keep different plots for Casey and April, cause the 2003's Casey was badass in the begining of the show, he had a lot of different plots for his own, and always helped the turtles. But reached a point in the show that he simply didn't appear anymore, and when eventually the writers remember of him, was just for being a romantic par with April and that really pissed me off.

Hope that doesn't happen to this Casey and April, and both continue to have their own history without always engaging each other.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Man this ep was like a love letter to pretty much any fan of TMNT, no matter what the incarcation. It referenced the creators. It paid huge homage to the 4Kids intro of Casey. It referenced the comics. It even paid homage to Taxi Driver! Even Irma showed up! I was sorta torn on Casey, up until this point. But now I have so say that I totally dig him! I hope they don't use him sparingly. There is a reason that Casey has always been one of my favorite characters and this ep is a good reminder of why. Great episode if you ask me but I'm sure you had already gathered that.

[gunstarheroblue]

Agreed. We've seen what happens when some average kid who has probably never sparred before in his life (Timothy) tries to get in on the action. It isn't pretty. But from what we've seen, Casey isn't afraid to take a few punches and really put in the actual effort to make it a fair fight. For all we know he's taken martial arts classes before, or hell, has been in enough street fights to have learned how to defend himself. Unlike April, who never told Splinter she'd ever learned any sort of martial art before he offered to train her, we don't know that Casey is going into this totally blind.

very true. The hockey background helps - Im sure hes seen his fair share of Scraps , Body Checks and Fist fights on the ice/ (street hockey) one learns quickly that they gotta keep their head up or you are going to get run over.

Awesome episode, and nice solid intro for the Character.(my fav version of him yet)

[CyberCubed]

Man this ep was like a love letter to pretty much any fan of TMNT, no matter what the incarcation. It referenced the creators. It paid huge homage to the 4Kids intro of Casey. It referenced the comics. It even paid homage to Taxi Driver! Even Irma showed up! I was sorta torn on Casey, up until this point. But now I have so say that I totally dig him! I hope they don't use him sparingly. There is a reason that Casey has always been one of my favorite characters and this ep is a good reminder of why. Great episode if you ask me but I'm sure you had already gathered that.

Not to mention the huge nod to the first movie with the rooftop scene. Even Raphael's motions were exactly the same from the first movie with the same kicks and then putting his arms against the flat roof.

[snake]

Not to mention the huge nod to the first movie with the rooftop scene. Even Raphael's motions were exactly the same from the first movie with the same kicks and then putting his arms against the flat roof.

I hope we see more homages to the first movie or other incarnations.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Not to mention the huge nod to the first movie with the rooftop scene. Even Raphael's motions were exactly the same from the first movie with the same kicks and then putting his arms against the flat roof.

Yeah by the time I got to posting this some of it had slipped my mind and I was so excited that I couldn't retain it all. LOL. What's cool about that is that the first movie is my favorite TMNT thing ever. So any time they pay homage to it I'm gonna really love that. I also forgot to mention the fact that I LOVE the Footbots because they allow the Turtles to use their weapons in really violent ways that they wouldn't be able to if the Foot Soldiers were actually human. When Splinter literally knocked one of their heads off and the "oil" started squirting out I literally yelled out "YEAH!" I mean that is really edgy for a "kids show" ya know? Also do you think the "users are LOSERS" sign was an homage to the old Anti-Drug ads the original Turtles would do?

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I hope we see more homages to the first movie or other incarnations.

Me too! They send me in to a state of fanboy euphoria! LOL!

[snake]

Me too! They send me in to a state of fanboy euphoria! LOL!

Casey's drawing made me smile for a long time. That seriously made my day.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Casey's drawing made me smile for a long time. That seriously made my day.

Yeah that was awesome. I think my favorite thing might have been the Eastman and Laird written on his gear. I wonder if they will be there for the whole series or if they just did that for this one ep?

[snake]

Yeah that was awesome. I think my favorite thing might have been the Eastman and Laird written on his gear. I wonder if they will be there for the whole series or if they just did that for this one ep?

It'll probably be there for the whole series, unless he gets a new stick.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

It'll probably be there for the whole series, unless he gets a new stick.

I actually just looked at my new Casey figure just to make sure it wasn't on there. It wasn't. LOL.

[victory_angel]

It was probably to show he wants to protect his family. I guess you can say the same about his dad with that logic.

I know people involved with the Nick show want to keep that world outside of the IDW universe. But what if Casey's dad does turn out to be Hun?

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I know people involved with the Nick show want to keep that world outside of the IDW universe. But what if Casey's dad does turn out to be Hun?

I wouldn't want that to happen because I have never liked that character.

[snake]

I know people involved with the Nick show want to keep that world outside of the IDW universe. But what if Casey's dad does turn out to be Hun?

That would be cool, but Hun isn't at the top of my list of characters I want to appear.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah Casey saying he has a sister is a weird line to say if they don't plan on introducing her. There was no reason to mention any siblings if they didn't plan on showing them.

I think it might be Angel, and it would be a nice way to bring her into the series rather than her just being Casey's friend like in 4kids and IDW.

Kinda get the feeling his father and sister are dead. So it's kind of a waste to name his sister Shadow or Angel if the most we'll see is some sad flashback of how they died.

[Rayberay]

The only minor nitpick I had was Casey's fear of rats. Not a huge deal but hopefully Splinter can help him conquer his fear. Otherwise, great episode.
I, for one, can't wait to see what the writers do with Casey's phobia when the Rat King, who can control rats, shows up. And to put the icing on the cake, it looks like the Rat King/Fungus Humongous episode will deal with the worst fears of our heroes.

[NinjaMan]

I wouldn't want that to happen because I have never liked that character.

Same here. Hun is a boring character to me.

[BabyTurtles]

Kinda get the feeling his father and sister are dead. So it's kind of a waste to name his sister Shadow or Angel if the most we'll see is some sad flashback of how they died.

wait...why would Casey bring up protecting his dad and sis...if they were dead?? :-?

[shredder orokusaki]

This episode was very good! My soldiers destroyed the turtles lair!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAH:D:D:D:D I liked it a lot!!!

[JH24]

Very nice episode, regarding production quality definitely one of the best. For some reason I didn't enjoy the episode as much as I had hoped, either I'm not in the mood (a bit stressed lately) or I'm getting burned out on the series. Planning to watch again though.

Things I liked:

- Fight scenes. Original, good choreography and great action.
- Casey's portrayal and character, I've warmed up to him and already feels a part of this series now.
- Nice to see Irma.
- Good to see the Footbots are becoming more and more of a threat. Without Raph and Casey's teamwork, the last one would have escaped.
- Raph and Casey "warming up" to each other, especially when they saved each other's lives.
- Casey's reaction to Master Splinter and him telling about the origin of the turtles' names.

Things I didn't like:

- Mikey's "joke" with him belching. Come on... not a good start.
- Raph having anger issues again? We had those before. Leo seemed a bit provocative in the sparring match.
- Casey finding the lair and then letting himself be detected due to clumsiness feels kind of forced/cliché. For some reason I had preferred him meeting all the turtles outside the lair or on the surface.
- The turtles (in this case Raph) hiding in their shells still freaks me out a bit, it looks so weird.
- Unless I missed something I found the transition from normal Casey to being a vigilante sudden. To see him in the last episode and then this one was quite a big gap IMO.


Mikey seemed actually a bit jealous at the end about Raph/Casey bonding. I can imagine he wants to interact with this new human friend too.

[Michelangelo]

One of the best episodes ever.
The action was so awesome.
Each fight ebbed and flowed between different characters winning and losing with some great moments along the way. Whoever does the show must be an awesome bunch of dudes and dudettes. That's what a show should be like! Great job!
The Slash episode was just as great, especially for the fight scenes. Well thought out action sequences that make for great entertainment. They are getting better at making these turtles do some seriously cool stuff. With Casey on board now we can look forward to many other issues being answered as the show progresses. Cowabunga!!!!

[ticktack]

So many of the human characters in TMNT seem to have no family other than parents, why not have some siblings in the mix? They don't have to play a big part, though someday they could.
To just add relatives is a variant too.

Other thing is:
How would you have felt if Casey's relatives were the canon characters of the past tmnt's and not original characters of this show(the tea-party girl for example?), I mean not only with Shadow or Angel. Some other character and Casey, let's say, were not related or didn't have some common things in past incarnation, but now they are going to be relatives in this version.

[Lightjump]

Good episode, I really identified with Casey Jones. I was the kid that would always sketch things and make up a super hero :tgrin: I feel however that they should have shown more concern when he saw Mutagen man so that his sudden rush to vigilantism.

[Zulithe]

To just add relatives is a variant too.

Other thing is:
How would you have felt if Casey's relatives were the canon characters of the past tmnt's and not original characters of this show(the tea-party girl for example?), I mean not only with Shadow or Angel. Some other character and Casey, let's say, were not related or didn't have some common things in past incarnation, but now they are going to be relatives in this version.
I don't think they are going to pull a star wars here (oh, wow I had no idea Darth Vader build C-3PO! that kind of thing), but if it is something like that, sure I'd find it uncreative and possibly aggravating.

It really depends though, if they take a very minor character who most didn't care about and reimagined that charater as Casey's sister, it could end up being a better version than the previous. So you have to keep an open mind.

if you just want to view it in terms of "canon" then I say that's BS, this show is its own canon and it doesn't have to obey the rules of any of the previous versions, including the Mirage comics. Only thing that is important is that it stays true to the spirit of the franchise and the past versions. If they did something like say, make casey and april brother and sister from the start of the Nick show, that would be something I'd say qualifies as against the spirit of the franchise, and I'd probably not like it.

I am hoping for an all-new character. Maybe a kid?