Old and New Fans Should View Nickelodeon's TMNT Series as an another world/diminsion

[bwrosas]

And why? Remember "Turtles Forever"? You answer lies within that movie. And here I explain why

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[TurtleTitan97]

Hate to break it to ya, but we already do view this show (Along with every other version of TMNT) as another universe.

[BabyTurtles]

I think every reboot is considered another dimension XD

I mean if it was a continuation nothing would make sense and reboots can't ALL be exactly the same cause that would be boring. So yea...I think most people have accepted that :)

though...people might still not like certain changes.
(it could be because it's too different...or because it's just a plain bad idea)

[CyberCubed]

This is the most bizarre thread I've read in some time. Every new cartoon or comic series is its own universe.

[Coola Yagami]

This is the most bizarre thread I've read in some time. Every new cartoon or comic series is its own universe.

Honestly surprised you're not saying 'this thread needs to be locked'.

[Aaronardo]

Honestly surprised you're not saying 'this thread needs to be locked'.

:o Someone's kidnapped CyberCubed! Must've been one of his trained Cubed-Nazis!

[BubblyShell22]

We already know that this series is its own universe while blending in things that have come before. That's what I like about it.

[NinjaPug]

I've never seen anyone argue that the Nick series is a continuation/part of a previous TMNT universe.

[Jester]

So...another excuse to post a video.

Stay classy, bwrosas.

[Shark_Blade]

Wow.

So revelation.

Much discovery.

[ToTheNines]

I like your fridge magnets.

[Candy Kappa]

Whaaat. And I thought it was a direct continuation of the Fred Wolf show, man. Now it all makes sense!


Said no one ever.

[Metalwolf]

I call it what it properly is.

A reboot.

It doesn't mean that the other versions don't exist, or that each of the others' stories don't matter or aren't canon. I just think a 'multiverse' isn't necessary, it only makes the others feel less special by trying to tie them all together just because.

I have to put up with in Transformers with all of the fanboys and their multiverse wanking, now I hate that it's migrated over to Turtles like a malignancy. :ohwell:

[Shred87]

Didn't know this was a debate... Obviously every new movie cartoon or comic title is considered it own universe.... Didn't you see turtles forever...geez

[Jester]

I call it what it properly is.

A reboot.

It doesn't mean that the other versions don't exist, or that each of the others' stories don't matter or aren't canon. I just think a 'multiverse' isn't necessary, it only makes the others feel less special by trying to tie them all together just because.

I have to put up with in Transformers with all of the fanboys and their multiverse wanking, now I hate that it's migrated over to Turtles like a malignancy. :ohwell:
Huh? I really don't know what you mean. The Turtle universes are all separate and distinct and the only times they are integrated is mainly for one off stories like Turtles Forever.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yeah, I'm not really getting that either. Of course they're all their own "universe" (I think multiverse theory is pretty much an accepted thing in EVERY comic-based storyline's continuity now), so I don't quite see why having them connected should even be a problem. didn't the Turtles forever movie already address that issue, anyway?

[Metalwolf]

Didn't know this was a debate... Obviously every new movie cartoon or comic title is considered it own universe.... Didn't you see turtles forever...geezI'd seen Turtles Forever, and I didn't like it because of the whole multiverse thing.



Huh? I really don't know what you mean. The Turtle universes are all separate and distinct and the only times they are integrated is mainly for one off stories like Turtles Forever. If it was a one off that wasn't considered canon then I wouldn't care, but it outright states that the destruction of 'Turtle Prime' ends up erasing all of the other universes, which wouldn't end up happening if it wasn't considered a multiverse. It's not the idea of a multiverse per se, but that the movie is indirectly saying that the characters' 'lives' are an illusion, that the universe that they think is real isn't, and that their whole lives can just be erased through the death of some 'comic book universe' which they didn't even know existed until then. So it's not the multiverse itself, but the way it ties all of the others through threat of erasure and non-existence.

[Jester]

To each their own. I thought it was a clever "This is where it all started" kinda deal. Besides, trying to place Turtles Forever in any of its universes be it the Mirage comics, the Fred Wolf Series, or the 4Kids series is kinda dificult anyway.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

It was actually more like their universe spun off of the original one at some point, along with all the others. Multiverses work that way in nearly every sci-fi property- didn't you see Doc Brown's explanation in BttF II? The time-line isn't constant, it's always spinning off alternate worlds because events can change based on decisions made, random variables, or whatever. Otherwise, why do they all have the same names in every one? Why do they always meet the same people, even if they are variations of them? Everyone has an analog in another universe according to multiversal thinking- that version of you may be president, or even dead, but they still existed in some fashion. As I see it, the "Prime" world was simply the FIRST.

[Coola Yagami]

Why not actually talk about it instead of just linking your video here? I do Youtube too, but you don't see me post videos about all my rants about the movie here.... I actually rant about them here. Just leave your link of your channel as part of your sig and call it a day.

[CyberCubed]

I don't understand why people record themselves on youtube. Unless you get insanely popular, nobody is going to waste their time watching 15 minutes of some guy ranting when instead you could briefly read their post on a forum in less than 2 minutes and get the same exact point across.

[Jester]

I don't understand why people record themselves on youtube. Unless you get insanely popular, nobody is going to waste their time watching 15 minutes of some guy ranting when instead you could briefly read their post on a forum in less than 2 minutes and get the same exact point across.
Because they hope to become insanely popular....and you can't if you don't try...and even then more often than not you still don't. :P

[saber16]

So... let me get this straight... the show just "isn't" Ninja Turtles because some of the cast are younger?
... Well, might as well complain about the IDW comic, because the same thing happened there.

[Coola Yagami]

Because they hope to become insanely popular....and you can't if you don't try...and even then more often than not you still don't. :P

I know I'll never be insanely popular... but whatever little attention I get is good. LOL I'm lucky at least SOME people 'waste their time watching me for 15 minutes' and take the time out to either agree or disagree.

[Technogeek29]

So... let me get this straight... the show just "isn't" Ninja Turtles because some of the cast are younger?
... Well, might as well complain about the IDW comic, because the same thing happened there.

Now that I think about it. In IDW aren't only Leo and Don teens? Mikey and Raph were still toddlers when Tang shen died. At best Raph might be 12 and Mikey 11 or 10 at the least.

[Coola Yagami]

I don't understand why people record themselves on youtube. Unless you get insanely popular, nobody is going to waste their time watching 15 minutes of some guy ranting when instead you could briefly read their post on a forum in less than 2 minutes and get the same exact point across.

Honestly dude, your rants would score a ka-zillion views. Easy.

[Powder]

Why not actually talk about it instead of just linking your video here? I do Youtube too, but you don't see me post videos about all my rants about the movie here.... I actually rant about them here. Just leave your link of your channel as part of your sig and call it a day.

This 100000%

Because of your spammy nature, I will literally never watch one of your videos. Ever.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Now that I think about it. In IDW aren't only Leo and Don teens? Mikey and Raph were still toddlers when Tang shen died. At best Raph might be 12 and Mikey 11 or 10 at the least.

No, they were most likely older than that. From the art, it looks like Mikey was around three, Raph maybe five or six. They'd probably be at least twelve and thirteen- I'm guessing there was a year or less between each of them in the past life. And given that Asians have a long tradition of large families and women having children frequently, I'd say there were maybe only a few months at most between each pregnancy. They do ACT a little younger than the others, but since they are all around the same age as turtles it might all just be a moot point anyway.

[victory_angel]

This 100000%

Because of your spammy nature, I will literally never watch one of your videos. Ever.

Or if you want to post a video voicing your opinions and reviews. Start a single thread in the fan works section titles "My TMNT Video Whatever" and post them there. Don't post them in an area of the forum that is meant for discussions.

[snake]

I read the title and I already knew who created this thread. It's another universe, not leaving a comment, abandoning thread.

[n-zero]

When TMNT initially exploded into popularity, you had two completely different versions of the story- the gritty Mirage comics and the comical cartoon series, both with wildly different casts, rules, and interpretations of the characters. Since then, every incarnation has been free to be it own universe. TMNT is incredibly malleable so long as the core essences of the characters remain intact, and establishing that early on makes much of the fan base accepting of such fluidity. I'm pretty sure that's one of many key reasons for the longevity of the franchise.

[Leofan26]

Already did this back in the 2003 series, I don't know how fans wouldn't think other wise :P