View Full Version : Official Episode Discussion S2 #11 "Metalhead Rewired"
Machias Banshee
02-19-2014, 10:52 PM
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Yeah... this screams 'bad idea' all over the place. Considering Donnie had lost control of Metalhead to a Kraang and nearly got his brothers obliterated, you would think that he would have come up with another idea for Metalhead's carcass.
Well, Donnie has tenacity. He won't give up on a project, no matter how grim it may seem on the outside. And Yes... that is a very loaded statement.
Donnie states he programmed Metalhead with fighting styles of the turtles, Shredder's foot clan, AND the Kraang. Either Don walks around with cameras a la Survivorman, OR... he's been copying notes and whatever he can cram in from youtube videos.
Some people are assuming that this is just a 'filler' episode. But fillers aren't always what they seem...
Keep your eyes peeled, I'm sure more will be added to this before Saturday night...
Stay tuned!
Machias Banshee
02-22-2014, 09:10 PM
Due to the show being available on iTunes and other media locations at midnight, the thread has been opened early for those who wish to discuss it.
This thread will have spoilers. If you don't want to get spoiled for tomorrow morning, don't read it.
Thank you! :D
BabyTurtles
02-23-2014, 02:39 AM
saw the episode.....now I'm sad.....poor Metalhead....:cry:
all the feels....cute little metal turtle....*sobs*
also....this episode explains where all the mutants went, so that was nice ^_^
marcelangelo
02-23-2014, 03:16 AM
woah, can't wait to see it then.
great clip, haven't seen this one before..
Metalwolf
02-23-2014, 05:22 AM
saw the episode.....now I'm sad.....poor Metalhead....:cry:
all the feels....cute little metal turtle....*sobs*
also....this episode explains where all the mutants went, so that was nice ^_^And even Slash was there. :D
Edit: I wonder if seeing the Turtles rescue them, will make the other mutants be less... hostile towards them in the future?
Edit Edit:
Imprisoned Mutants I spotted- Pigeon Pete, Cockroach Terminator, Snakeweed, Kirbybat, Squirrelenoid and Spiderbytes
ObiWanFan4life
02-23-2014, 06:19 AM
Here are my first impression notes:
- I like how they address the problem with reprogramming Metalhead.
- The R2-D2 scream was a nice touch I'll admit
- Boy, these writers just LOVE using mikey as a punching bad don't they?
- Although it was nice to see the past mutants, I think it might be a good idea to SHOW US how they got captured in the first place, Especially Snakeweed, who must have been a pain to capture.
- Nice reference to Terminator 2 at the end with Metalhead giving a thumbs up.
LivingMutagen
02-23-2014, 07:59 AM
I'm all kinds of feels right now.
Great episode, and now we know where all the mutants were, and Metalhead is such a hero.
MrTMNT2012
02-23-2014, 09:05 AM
Fantastic Kraang Episode! :D
Loved the ending.
Desslok
02-23-2014, 09:05 AM
Dr. Rockwell was there and I'm pretty sure I saw Justin as well. My favorite line in this one: "..the ones who are turtles which I call frogs!"
kelligrafie
02-23-2014, 09:58 AM
Star Wars.
Sassy Splinter.
Slash.
Snakeweed.
Spiderbytez.
Not sure how Mikey got his fat flipper that far up the vending machine. I've got fingers like paper thin and can barely get past the inner flap. That some ninja skills alright.
RaphAndDonnie
02-23-2014, 10:09 AM
"I got rights as a spider!"
Heh. Not a bad episode. It was nice to see those mutants again and it was pretty interesting to see them tie into the Kraang's scheme of things. Mikey and his antics helped yet again also. :lol:
Overall not a bad episode.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:10 AM
I'm watching it right now, so awesome! I love the star wars homage!
VaughnMichael
02-23-2014, 10:15 AM
Is everyone watching this online then???
I'm waiting for the damn thing to come on and sponge bob is still on wtf?!
Great the HD Nick is playing sponge bob and the regular one is playing turtles...thanks idiots at nick.
NinjaPug
02-23-2014, 10:19 AM
Man, they really made Mikey extra annoying in this one so far.
kelligrafie
02-23-2014, 10:26 AM
At least we found out where all the one-off mutant baddies went.
So much for Mutant Motel.
I saw LEATHERHEAD!!!!! :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:
*EDIT*
Confirmed to not be Leatherhead... Just a random background mutant. False alarm!
Electric
02-23-2014, 10:31 AM
1. Poor Donnie.
2. Apparently we do get ICK
Am I the only one that thinks Metalhead will be destroyed in the upcoming "Rewired" episode?
With all the new characters coming in, there really doesn't seem to be any need for the Metalhead character anymore, seems the whole trust arc will be Donnie's brothers doubting him and will be answered when Metalhead sacrifices itself for them. It seems like another opportunity for Donnie to carry another burden in his life...:(
I hate it when I'm right...:(
snake
02-23-2014, 10:31 AM
Cool episode, I loved seeing all the mutants again, Justin, Rockwell, Pete, all those filler mutants. Pretty sad ending though :tsad:
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 10:33 AM
Great episode and it answered all the plot holes. So the mutants weren't all roaming the streets, they all got captured by the Kraang.
It's interesting to note that Newtralizer wasn't there, and neither was Leatherhead.
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:33 AM
I saw LEATHERHEAD!!!!! :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:
Really? I was looking for him the whole time, but I didn't see him.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 10:33 AM
I'm pretty sure Leatherhead and Newtralizer were the only two not there, not counting Rat King.
Vicky82
02-23-2014, 10:34 AM
Wow what surprise this episode was and it wasn't a filler episode. It was a good and funny episode also sad at the end.
Was surprised that Spiderbytez wasn't a villian in this episode and that the Kraang were and he wanted the turtles to help him. Also it wasn't just Spiderbytez in this episode but also Slash, Snakeweed, Kirby Bat, Rockwell and all the other mutants and they were held captive by the Kraang.
It was emotional at the end with poor Metalhead sacrificing himself to save everyone, I had tears in my eyes. :cry: I bet this will end up in the Saddest Moment thread.
Good and Funny Momments
Metalhead was awsome
Metalhead screamed like R2-D2
The chase scene was awsome
Metalhead driving
Metalhead kept grabbing Mikey by the face. :lol:
Mikey trying to get a burito out of a vending machine and getting stuck. :lol:
Metalhead going to the toilet, turns out there was a portal inside that only Mikey can open. :lol:
Spiderbytez with a mind contol device on him talking like a Kraang.
The turtles coming out of a post Box/portal
The fight scene was great and Snakeweed and Spiderbytez helping the turtles and was a Raph and Slash moment.:D
Metalhead and Donny giving each other a thumbs up :cry: Terminator 2 reference
snake
02-23-2014, 10:34 AM
Really? I was looking for him the whole time, but I didn't see him.
Me too, I assumed he was in dimension x and not the prison.
fridaynightdestination
02-23-2014, 10:34 AM
I thought it was a decent episode. 6.5/10
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 10:34 AM
Alright episode.
Did like how they faked us out by making it seem Metalhead was going rogue upon being given more AI, but he was still a good guy in the end.
And yay, some Slash screentime is good, especially with his quick glance with Raph and the fact that Raph still calls him Spike.
kelligrafie
02-23-2014, 10:35 AM
It would've been cool if instead of reappearing through a mailbox, they came out of an old school payphone like Bill and Ted.
NinjaMan
02-23-2014, 10:35 AM
I saw LEATHERHEAD!!!!! :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:
Wait you did? Where? I was looking but couldn't find him. Good episode. Even saw the nasty Spyroach lol.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:35 AM
Wow what surprise this episode was and it wasn't a filler episode. It was a good and funny episode also sad at the end.
Was surprised that Spiderbytez wasn't a villian in this episode and that the Kraang were and he wanted the turtles to help him. Also it wasn't just Spiderbytez in this episode but also Slash, Snakeweed, Kirby Bat, Rockwell and all the other mutants and they were held captive by the Kraang.
It was emotional at the end with poor Metalhead sacrificing himself to save everyone, I had tears in my eyes. :cry: I bet this will end up in the Saddest Moment thread.
Good and Funny Momments
Metalhead was awsome
Metalhead screamed like R2-D2
The chase scene was awsome
Metalhead driving
Metalhead kept grabbing Mikey by the face. :lol:
Mikey trying to get a burito out of a vending machine and getting stuck. :lol:
Metalhead going to the toilet, turns out there was a portal inside that only Mikey can open. :lol:
Spiderbytez with a mind contol device on him talking like a Kraang.
The turtles coming out of a post Box/portal
The fight scene was great and Snakeweed and Spiderbytez helping the turtles and was a Raph and Slash moment.:D
Metalhead and Donny giving each other a thumbs up :cry: Terminator 2 reference
I also had tears in my eyes......Don't judge me.
Really? I was looking for him the whole time, but I didn't see him.
I thought I saw him jumping from one of the platforms...
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 10:36 AM
Mutants not there:
- Rahzar and Fishface managed to never get captured
- Leatherhead
- Newtralizer
- Mutagen Man (obviously, frozen in Donnie's lab)
And Rat King never got captured.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:36 AM
I thought I saw him jumping from one of the platforms...
I'm pretty sure that was either Justin or Pete, becuase I was looking for him too.
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:37 AM
Where did the other mutants come out of? The turtles came out of the mailbox, but what about all the others?
AdamWarlock87
02-23-2014, 10:37 AM
Ya Leatherhead!!!! This was a great episode I loved it! Me and my son were all excited to see all the mutants again!
NinjaPug
02-23-2014, 10:39 AM
- Fantastic third act. I loved the look of the prison and loved that they took a portal to get there. When we saw the garage I thought we were just going to get the prison set from the Newtralizer episode.
- Great explanation for what happened to all the excess mutants
- Loved the nods to Star Wars and Terminator
- Awesome to see Slash again
- Was that a different voice for Spider Bytez? It didn't sound like Lewis Black.
- Overall I thought it was a great episode. Mikey got annoying especially during the first half but that was the only negative for me.
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:39 AM
I'm pretty sure that was either Justin or Pete, becuase I was looking for him too.
I think it was justin. If it was LH, it would have been pointed out by Mikey.
Aaronardo
02-23-2014, 10:39 AM
My favorite of Season 2 so far! Fantastic all around. Explains where the mutants went, gives Donnie (even more :o) development, the animation was top-notch, just an excellent episode!
(Also, it's worth noting this marks the first episode that allows people watching on regular Nick (not Nick HD) to see parts of the left and right sides normally blocked off).
snake
02-23-2014, 10:39 AM
Where did the other mutants come out of? The turtles came out of the mailbox, but what about all the others?
Possibly the mailbox? It's a pretty tight fit, but I'm sure they could squeeze out.
Megchan
02-23-2014, 10:40 AM
It was a really good episode! Glad it answered the question of where all the other mutants disappeared to, but now they are roaming the streets. Good or bad? Going to have to rewatch and try to see all the mutants that were there. And how is it the parasitic Wasp was there? Did the Kraang make more than one? Or Justin, I thought he was destroyed?
I literally clapped when I saw the preview for next weeks episode. :p I can not wait to see ICK! X3
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 10:40 AM
Guys, Leatherhead and Newtralizer were NOT there.
AdamWarlock87
02-23-2014, 10:40 AM
Right after Slash gets freed there's a glimpse of Leatherhead and monkey brains under his arm as slash is punching the kraang
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 10:41 AM
Right after Slash gets freed there's a glimpse of Leatherhead and monkey brains under his arm as slash is punching the kraang
Anyone have a screen cap of this?
Karai Samurai
02-23-2014, 10:41 AM
Well, this episode answers where all the mutants are hiding in NYC. I liked this episode, even if it did have Spiderbytes in it. Hopefully, the other mutants will ally with the turtles against the Kraang. That will be an awesome season finale!
Great Kraang episode, and a unique one as well. Only thing I didn't like was Mikey. He was a bit too stupid this episode. But yeah, this was awesome. This is how you do a Kraang episode.
Oh, and Donnie's going to need therapy soon.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:41 AM
List of mutants in the prison
-Kirby Bat
-Squrrelanoid
-Wasp
-Rockwell
-Justin
-Slash
-Cockroach
Probably some others that I can't remember.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 10:41 AM
I also saw Pigeon Pete and some of the giant wasps. I liked the little scene of Slash destroying a Kraang about to attack Raph.
But my little prediction came true... we lost Metalhead. I was afraid something like that was gonna happen the moment I heard he was given AI. Although it didn't happen the way I thought it did.
Someone's gotta add that line 'The one called Turtles that I call frogs are the ones that must be destroyed!!!' to the vote poll thing.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:42 AM
Right after Slash gets freed there's a glimpse of Leatherhead and monkey brains under his arm as slash is punching the kraang
Really? Like cubed said, pics?
I just received confirmation from Brandon that he was indeed not there... Sorry guys... I was just seeing things...
AdamWarlock87
02-23-2014, 10:42 AM
Ill try and get a pic off the dvr
snake
02-23-2014, 10:43 AM
I just received confirmation from Brandon that he was indeed not there... Sorry guys... I was just seeing things...
Thought so, why would he be there in the first place?
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 10:43 AM
Yeah, I didn't see Leatherhead, shape or form, nor wasn't really anticipating him to be one of the captured mutants.
Besides, even if he was, wouldn't he been one of the few important mutants acknowledged by the Turtles? Mikey could've been like, "Hey, it's Leatherhead!" since he was the turtle LH was closest to. But since that didn't happen, I can only assume LH indeed wasn't among the captured mutants. Only makes me wonder how and when he will return however.
Karai Samurai
02-23-2014, 10:44 AM
I just received confirmation from Brandon that he was indeed not there... Sorry guys... I was just seeing things...
Leatherhead is in Dimension X. I'm assuming Newtralizer is also there.
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:45 AM
Yeah, I hope the mutants become allies. Then they can form the Mighty Mutanimals.
Yeah, I didn't see Leatherhead, shape or form, nor wasn't really anticipating him to be one of the captured mutants.
Besides, even if he was, wouldn't he been one of the few important mutants acknowledged by the Turtles? Mikey could've been like, "Hey, it's Leatherhead!" since he was the turtle LH was closest to. But since that didn't happen, I can only assume LH indeed wasn't among the captured mutants. Only makes me wonder how and when he will return however.
Very true...
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 10:46 AM
Newtralizer isn't a mutant though... he's an escaped Dimension X convict... he might have been too dangerous for them to capture. No idea how they ever could have captured Slash though. And whoop, there goes the second episode he voiced. Did Corey confirm he recorded for 2 or 3 episodes? Cause I hope we get a third proper one before the season closes.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:46 AM
Yeah, I hope the mutants become allies. Then they can form the Mighty Mutanimals.
It's not the same without Ray Fillet and Mondo Gecko.
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:48 AM
Newtralizer isn't a mutant though... he's an escaped Dimension X convict... he might have been too dangerous for them to capture. No idea how they ever could have captured Slash though. And whoop, there goes the second episode he voiced. Did Corey confirm he recorded for 2 or 3 episodes? Cause I hope we get a third proper one before the season closes.
There is always a chance he was in a few more, as he said he had done 3 at that time, but do we know if they were done with the season at that point?
snake
02-23-2014, 10:48 AM
Newtralizer isn't a mutant though... he's an escaped Dimension X convict... he might have been too dangerous for them to capture. No idea how they ever could have captured Slash though. And whoop, there goes the second episode he voiced. Did Corey confirm he recorded for 2 or 3 episodes? Cause I hope we get a third proper one before the season closes.
Corey said he recorded for 2 episodes. But he's in the script for the possible S3 episode.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 10:49 AM
Yeah, I hope the mutants become allies. Then they can form the Mighty Mutanimals.
Kinda disagree. The Turtles need more non-Kraang and non-Foot related villains, and these guys fit that mold. They might be kinda filler-ish, but without them they just be fighting the Kraang and the Foot every episode.
AdamWarlock87
02-23-2014, 10:49 AM
Well if it was confirmed that he wasnt there then who was this???
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t61/amondethroned/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps662a7182.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/amondethroned/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps662a7182.jpg.html)
snake
02-23-2014, 10:51 AM
Well if it was confirmed that he wasnt there then who was this???
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t61/amondethroned/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps662a7182.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/amondethroned/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps662a7182.jpg.html)
Good call, that is leatherhead.
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:52 AM
Kinda disagree. The Turtles need more non-Kraang and non-Foot related villains, and these guys fit that mold. They might be kinda filler-ish, but without them they just be fighting the Kraang and the Foot every episode.
I guess. It I think Slash should turn to good. My ideal M.M lineup for this series is
Leatherhead
Slash
Rockwell
Kirby
and maybe some new mutants
EDIT: and possibly Justin.
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 10:52 AM
*Sees Screencap of LH*
Huh. Still think he should've been acknowledged, though...
snake
02-23-2014, 10:52 AM
I guess. It I think Slash should turn to good. My ideal M.M lineup for this series is
Leatherhead
Slash
Rockwell
Kirby
and maybe some new mutants
And Ray Fillet :tgrin:
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:53 AM
F that was LH, then hopefully we'll have an ep with him soon.:D
The force will be with you Donatello, always!
Metalhead did not stop Judgment Day, he only prolonged the evitable.
A Reunion show done right!
I guess we can call it a "Portal Potty"
Donnie therapy in 3...2...1...
The poll option ought to be very interesting...:D
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:54 AM
And Ray Fillet :tgrin:
Maybe Metalhead. He's not a mutant, but he's awesome. If he ever comes back. Maybe Don can recover his memory.
snake
02-23-2014, 10:55 AM
Maybe Metalhead. He's not a mutant, but he's awesome. If he ever comes back. Maybe Don can recover his memory.
I'd like to see that, I'd also like to see metalhead have a voice.
Garfield
02-23-2014, 10:56 AM
Great Episode.
Love Metalhead. You just have to love the little guy.
It was pretty cool to see the mutants together. SHows us that they weren't simply forgotten.
I liked seeing Slash help Raph. I sense some good future episodes in the future bouncing off that little scene
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 10:57 AM
I'm now curious as to how Metalhead MK II will look should he possibly come into being made...
Well if it was confirmed that he wasnt there then who was this???
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t61/amondethroned/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps662a7182.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/user/amondethroned/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps662a7182.jpg.html)
That is what I saw!!!
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 10:57 AM
I'd like to see that, I'd also like to see metalhead have a voice.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking through the whole episode. But then we wouldnt've had the big reveal.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 10:57 AM
I wonder why they never tried to go after Rat King.
OrangeNinja1987
02-23-2014, 10:57 AM
I thought this episode was pretty good. It didn't wow me or anything, but Donnie losing Metalhead was pretty sad. I actually thought Mikey was funny in this, at least when he was trying to get the food out of the vending machine. Besides that, this episode didn't have many jokes, at least that I can remember.
But at the beginning, I was shocked when Leonardo's sword landed in the wall barely inches from his head. And when the turtles rushed into the lab after Metalhead attacked Donnie and saw Donnie in the algae water or whatever it was, I thought it was mutagen. That stuff freaked me out.
Nice to see Slash again. I just wished he had a bigger part to play in this episode.
VaughnMichael
02-23-2014, 10:58 AM
Well it's a good thing I realized when I did that the Nick HD channel wasn;t playing TMNT today.
So I switch back to the regular Nick and even though I wish I could have watched this in high definition I'm so glad I got to check this out.
I've always been one to love when good guys and bad guys have to join together to fight someone they both are against.
And yeah I saw Leatherhead jump out also (edit: yeah that pic proves it!)
The only one I didn't see was Newtralizer.
I loved when Slash winked at Raph and went off.
It's cool seeing the other mutants fight off the Kraang.
I really wish more mutant could be good guys, I think Spiderbytez should switch now that the turtles helped him.
Splinter is really seeming like old toon Splinter to me lately wish not leaving the lair and what not.
And poor Metalhead I think we will be seeing an updated version very soon.
Did anyone else think of the old arcade game when Metalhead was walking into the construction area? That's totally what it reminded me off.
I don't see how Mikey was any more annoying than he usually is though.
I actually find this Mikey less annoying than 2k3 Mikey, he's really quite funny.
Anyway over all great episode in my book and now all of the mutants good and bad are loose back on the street.
Newtralizer isn't a mutant though... he's an escaped Dimension X convict... he might have been too dangerous for them to capture. No idea how they ever could have captured Slash though. And whoop, there goes the second episode he voiced. Did Corey confirm he recorded for 2 or 3 episodes? Cause I hope we get a third proper one before the season closes.
Corey said he recorded for 2 episodes. But he's in the script for the possible S3 episode.
A little sad we won't be seeing more of Slash in S2. Wasn't there a picture posted on Twitter or Instagram some weeks ago from a S3 recording session and Feldman is there?
snake
02-23-2014, 11:01 AM
I wonder why they never tried to go after Rat King.
Because rat kings not a mutant?
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 11:03 AM
Because rat kings not a mutant?
He kinda is. He was affected by the mutagen, just altered mutagen.
Fungus Humongous wasn't there, right?
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:05 AM
Maybe Leatherhead's model being in the background was an error? If the guy says Leatherhead wasn't supposed to be there that's probably why the Turtles didn't acknowledge him.
I always assumed the Turtles would have to go to Dimension X to save Leatherhead.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:05 AM
Fungus Humongous wasn't there, right?
No, he died. Why would he be there?
Luigiperps
02-23-2014, 11:07 AM
No, he died. Why would he be there?
The wasp and justin were there, and they are dead.
Vicky82
02-23-2014, 11:08 AM
No, he died. Why would he be there?
I thought Justin and the mutant wasp died and they were there.
Edit: Lol Luigiperps beat me to it.
NinjaPug
02-23-2014, 11:08 AM
Justin didn't die. You could see him escaping amidst all the smoke in Alien Agenda.
In regards to the picture, Brandon said it was a random mutant that looks like him... Not Leatherhead.
BubblyShell22
02-23-2014, 11:09 AM
Pretty interesting episode. I wish LH would have been acknowledged, but it shows that he was there. Man, Mikey got punched around a lot during this ep and I loved how he tried to get the burrito out of the vending machine as it reminded me of The Simpsons when Homer tried to do the same with a soda. Don's definitely going to need some therapy after this, but at least we know that he can rebuild Metalhead. Nice to see all the mutants, too, and I like how Don urged Kirby to fly ahead. Loved seeing Slash help Raph, too. Overall, a pretty good episode. Definitely can't wait for ICK next week.
Edit: So, it's not LH? Damn. Ah, well, maybe we'll see him again sometime.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:10 AM
The wasp and justin were there, and they are dead.
Justin never died. He ran through a wall.
As for the Wasp they probably mutated more.
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 11:10 AM
In regards to the picture, Brandon said it was a random mutant that looks like him... Not Leatherhead.
So basically they were just re-using models under the guise that they weren't really a character we already know and recognize?
*Glances over that Chrome Dome fiasco*
Yeah....
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:11 AM
In regards to the picture, Brandon said it was a random mutant that looks like him... Not Leatherhead.
LOL, it's blatantly Leatherhead's model. My guess is it was a mistake and a background artist put him there when they weren't supposed to.
I guess this is a sign though we'll be seeing the Turtles rescue Leatherhead later this season.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:12 AM
So basically they were just re-using models under the guise that they weren't really a character we already know and recognize?
*Glances over that Chrome Dome fiasco*
Yeah....
To be fair, Chrome Dome was always designed to look like a robot Shredder. And Bradford's armor resembled the Foot Elite so I didn't have a problem with it.
NinjaPug
02-23-2014, 11:13 AM
It's obvious the writers have bigger plans for Leatherhead. I'm sure he's a big part of the episode where the Turtles are in Dimension X.
It's not a huge deal that there was a quick image showing an outline of Leatherhead far away.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 11:15 AM
To be fair, Chrome Dome was always designed to look like a robot Shredder. And Bradford's armor resembled the Foot Elite so I didn't have a problem with it.
Maybe you didn't but others sure did. Biggest problem is NO ONE in the entire episode acknowledging the fact that it looked like robo-Brad. Not even Mikey.
NinjaMan
02-23-2014, 11:16 AM
LH voice actor did confirm he plays a huge role in season 3.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:16 AM
Maybe you didn't but others sure did. Biggest problem is NO ONE in the entire episode acknowledging the fact that it looked like robo-Brad. Not even Mikey.
Doesn't matter, the Kraang designed Chrome Dome because of Shredder and they probably based it off that armor.
Garfield
02-23-2014, 11:17 AM
I'd like to see that, I'd also like to see metalhead have a voice.
I like that Metalhead doesn't have a voice, I feel like he offered more as a visual, and support character that helped out and add to the scene. Like in many episodes after his debut you would see him in the background helping out Don in lab, or even just chilling out with the turtles watching along as they lived there lives. Making Metalhead talk takes that subtlety away from him. In a setting where lots of characters or so vibrant and vocally expressive Metalhead not talking and responding in movements and gestures added a nice sense mellowness, the quite companion if you will; and to me it made his bigger moments, all the more impactful.
LH voice actor did confirm he plays a huge role in season 3.
Yeah! I'm super psyched for what's to come! :tgrin:
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 11:19 AM
Anyone notice the garage with the cars was the same place they fought Newtralizer? Why didn't the Turtles remember there was an underground entrance right where they were standing?
Megchan
02-23-2014, 11:19 AM
Then it was Leatherhead in spirit... >.> His essence was there but he wasn't.
AdamWarlock87
02-23-2014, 11:21 AM
I hope they have big plans for Leatherheads rescue in dimension x but I don't like that they he's saying its another mutant that looks like him. Oh we'll it was great seeing him again for a second.
Juanita27
02-23-2014, 11:23 AM
Aw poor Donnie, seems as if the writers break his heart every 3rd or 4th episode :( Leo was really a jerk in this one. But, a much better episode plot wise than the last two.
Anyone else think releasing all those prisoner mutants will come back to bite the turtles in the behind? How did metalhead's head pop up at the end, I thought the portal had closed?
Then it was Leatherhead in spirit... >.> His essence was there but he wasn't.
Well said my man... Well said... :)
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 11:27 AM
Aw poor Donnie, seems as if the writers break his heart every 3rd or 4th episode :( Leo was really a jerk in this one. But, a much better episode plot wise than the last two.
Anyone else think releasing all those prisoner mutants will come back to bite the turtles in the behind? How did metalhead's head pop up at the end, I thought the portal had closed?
I don't think Leo was being a jerk, at least intentionally. He had every right to be concerned about Metalhead having more AI after utilizing MH last time and how dangerous he was under the Kraang's control. MH may have been good all along, but Leo's criticisms were a tad justified (especially after seeing how much of the thought of losing his team last episode can weigh on him. You could say that was also a factor in his judgment. Putting the team's welfare before a semi-disposable robot is what a leader should do after all). Hell, he even acknowledged he should've trusted Don and shares the sentiment of MH's sacrifice. That's hardly a 'jerky' thing to do.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 11:29 AM
Doesn't matter, the Kraang designed Chrome Dome because of Shredder and they probably based it off that armor.
They designed Chrome Dome because of Shredder so they base if off one of his henchman's armor? I know Bradford's look is a callback to the Mirage Shredder to us fans, but within the show... it's just Bradford's armor. Until we see other guys dressed like that.... it's just Bradford's armor exclusive to him.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 11:31 AM
Anyone notice the garage with the cars was the same place they fought Newtralizer? Why didn't the Turtles remember there was an underground entrance right where they were standing?
Cause it's another case of 'it wasn't that same garage... it just happens to look like that same garage' due to limited CGI models.
Man, I haven't seen many CGI cartoons to be honest, but this one really does cut a lot of corners. Did other CGI cartoons do that?
pannoni1
02-23-2014, 11:32 AM
Fine sequel episode to Metalhead whereas there was just a small reference in his original series sequel where he was useless and that Don just moved on. It clearly shows that Nick Don is much more passionate about his creations than any others. Metalhead driving the Shellraiser was cool since real life versions are already doing the same at Google Labs. And best of all, nice to see most of the mutants so far in this series (in a way this is Nick's Night of the Rogues) doing battle somewhere in another dimension. The portable bathroom scene though shows that Mike must have some special ability that the others lack, and was so excited to see where the Turtles would end up after passing through the portal leading up to the episodes' climax, provided with a Booyakasha! by Raph and Mikey showing that they're determined for action.
Overall: 8/10
Papenbrook
02-23-2014, 11:33 AM
I felt sympathy for Donnie in this episode. He tried so hard to convince his brothers that Metalhead wouldn't be a burden on the mission. In the end, however, Metalhead sacrificed himself to save Donnie. He was a good robot.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 11:36 AM
Also glad Snakeweed wasn't killed/destroyed in this episode, since this time he was mind controlled and it wasn't hit fault. Even when he was set free he chose to fight the Kraang and escape than to start trouble with the Turtles.
blindturtle02
02-23-2014, 11:40 AM
What can I say? I was captivated from beginning to end. Glad the imprisoned mutants are all loose again! Very sad to see Metalhead sacrifice himself. I was expecting that T2 thumbs up and I wasn't disappointed when my fiancé mentioned it to me. Loved the R2 scream as I'm a big Star Wars fan. Totally didn't see that mutant reunion coming! What a ride! Makes me want to rewatch all 11 season 2 eps on my instant vid. I wish I had time today but will probably have to have a marathon next weekend due to studying, shopping, etc. Time flies when you're having fun with TMNT related stuff.
Don sounded so heartbroken when Metalhead bought it. Yep, def another burden for him to carry. I actually felt sorry for Spiderbytes this time around. And how bout those portals? I wonder if the Kraang will use those to infiltrate the lair? I have to say that this episode is possibly my favorite episode in season 2. Also liked Kraang Conspiracy quite allot, but this one also delivered on so many levels. Hope we don't have a hiatus after next weekend's episode. At least not too much of one. Man I love this show! Booyakasha and all that jazz!
Donatello19
02-23-2014, 11:57 AM
Very good episode! I really liked Metalhead in this one, and I'm really sad that now he's gone...I feel terrible for Donnie, as someone else said, they break his heart like every other episode. Something I really hated in this episode was Leo, he acted like a complete jerk for no reason. I get that he didn't like Metalhead (for whatever reason) but he didn't have to be such an a-hole to Don the whole time. Mikey seems like the only one to like Metalhead...and for a good reason, it's amazing that Don could build something like that. Anyway, I'm very sad to see him go...I'll miss him a lot :tcry:
Now to my favorite part about the episode...all the filler mutants! It was AWESOME to see them all in one place, and it's nice to have an explanation as to where they've been this whole time. I don't know about the whole LH fiasco, but the only mutants I didn't see were Newtralizer, Rahzar and Fishface (obviously the last two wouldn't get captured, but Newtralizer should of been there). I never thought we'd even see characters like Pigeon Pete again. Was cool to see Slash again..seems like him and Raph have made up..sorta? I was happy to see Kirby Bat again too, I don't why but I really like him and his design for some reason. I was glad he was calm this time and wasn't just randomly trying to kill the turtles...actually, that goes to all the mutants, it was awesome to see them kind of working with the turtles, not going against them. I'd love to see this kind of thing again, maybe in the season finale where they all have to team up?
So, great episode. Feel bad for Don but at least he's getting a lot of development...sad that Metalhead is gone...hated Leo...loved the mutants...
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Luckyday
02-23-2014, 12:04 PM
Oh just realize that we finally have an answer on why there water pools in Donnie's lab. They farm algae and worms! they're not just ninjas. They're farmers! :lol:
BabyTurtles
02-23-2014, 12:04 PM
XD the episode was so awesome though!
I hope Donnie makes another MetalHead...
Mikey's hand stuck in the vending machine almost killed me :lol:
the porta potty portal part was also funny :D
MCLeo28
02-23-2014, 12:12 PM
Really loved the episodes and never expected the Kraang to have kept the mutants imprisoned. Definitely the best Kraang episode by far along side the Season 1 Finale.
On a side note, did anyone see Spy-Roach? Was trying to look for him, but couldn't find him.
Garfield
02-23-2014, 12:16 PM
They're farmers! :lol:
Indeed they are.
Donatello19
02-23-2014, 12:26 PM
On a side note, did anyone see Spy-Roach? Was trying to look for him, but couldn't find him.
He was there, but it was the all white, blue winged version of him (his second form).
kelligrafie
02-23-2014, 12:39 PM
Did anyone else notice the crisps/chips/whatever in the vending machine had gross flavours?
https://31.media.tumblr.com/d1d706f44df54846c72c1c4d2578d572/tumblr_n1gia3SjRP1swy0zyo2_1280.jpg
https://24.media.tumblr.com/062a660d0fdd50248c2e3e9421d954df/tumblr_n1gia3SjRP1swy0zyo1_1280.jpg
Mondo_Gecko
02-23-2014, 12:49 PM
I'm hoping that reason Snakeweed didn't talk was because they had a limited budget and couldn't pay all the actors needed and not one where they just thought him speaking wasn't important.
As much as I loved seeing Snakeweed again, I was rather sad as I would have loved to hear his voice. Hope we see him soon!
Cudley The Cowlick
02-23-2014, 12:54 PM
Here's a better screen cap. It's LH's model, but with a color swap.
Not Leatherhead.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 01:02 PM
Here's a better screen cap. It's LH's model, but with a color swap.
Not Leatherhead.
Any screen caps of Metalhead, Spider Bytes, Slash and the others?
Vicky82
02-23-2014, 01:02 PM
IGN review 8.8 wow didn't expect to be that high.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/02/23/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-metalhead-rewired-review
Megchan
02-23-2014, 01:04 PM
Here's a better screen cap. It's LH's model, but with a color swap.
Not Leatherhead.
That looks like Newtralizer. =O.O=
IGN review 8.8 wow didn't expect to be that high.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/02/23/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-metalhead-rewired-review
I'm not, one thing I've seen from Max's reviews, is that he's been a big fan of the Donatello episodes, he's really loved the development of his character.
Here's a better screen cap. It's LH's model, but with a color swap.
Not Leatherhead.
That looks like Newtralizer. =O.O=
Yeah... It looks like LH's body with Newt's pattern...
Cudley The Cowlick
02-23-2014, 01:12 PM
Any screen caps of Metalhead, Spider Bytes, Slash and the others?
Yeah sure.
Pigeon Pete, Kirby Bat and a Squirellenoid also got a few nice shots. Everything else was frenetic and tiny in the background.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 01:14 PM
Yeah sure.
Pigeon Pete, Kirby Bat and a Squirellenoid also got a few nice shots. Everything else was frenetic and tiny in the background.
Thanks, any of the titular character?
Yeah sure.
Pigeon Pete, Kirby Bat and a Squirellenoid also got a few nice shots. Everything else was frenetic and tiny in the background.
So there were other unidentified mutants in there as well?
Cudley The Cowlick
02-23-2014, 01:19 PM
So there were other unidentified mutants in there as well?
Nothing visually different about Metalhead so I didn't grab a screenshot of him.
In regards to more nameless mutants: i don't know? I was really searching for the LH clone after it was discussed here. Didn't notice anything else that seemed out of place/new/repeated.
All the other mutants listed by other posters can be seen very briefly during the escape sequence.
After closer examination, that appears to be Newtralizer... Not an LH clone... Hmm...
Cudley The Cowlick
02-23-2014, 01:27 PM
After closer examination, that appears to be Newtralizer... Not an LH clone... Hmm...
It's definitely the LH model. When he moves you can see his tail and croc head in profile.
If someone else doesn't, I'll upload another shot of him to illustrate this.
Stepping out for a bit now, so someone else take the torch on this if u can.
Electric
02-23-2014, 01:29 PM
actually, i think that is newtralizer,he has a similar body to lh anyway. Donnie said this prison or whatever wasnt in another dimension, where as leather head went to dimension x, so him being there wouldnt make sense. im sure therell be and episode, probably the dimension hopping one, of him being rescued later.
even if its not newt, having an unnamed mutant doesnt bother me. with so many canisters out there, somethings bound to mutate with out the turtles fighting it
It's definitely the LH model. When he moves you can see his tail and croc head in profile.
If someone else doesn't, I'll upload another shot of him to illustrate this.
Stepping out for a bit now, so someone else take the torch on this if u can.
Very interesting... I know it for sure looked like Leatherhead's body jumping in the shadows... It'd be great to see a better lit profile shot if you can get one.
Cudley The Cowlick
02-23-2014, 01:33 PM
It's definitely the LH model. When he moves you can see his tail and croc head in profile.
If someone else doesn't, I'll upload another shot of him to illustrate this.
Stepping out for a bit now, so someone else take the torch on this if u can.
Nevermind, took a second to grab the screens.
I always hate it when someone is sitting on something in a forum and walks away.
NOW I'm off for a bit.
Enjoy
Electric
02-23-2014, 01:36 PM
that looks like newtralizer. the black skin with orange, and no scales pointing out on the back
Also no snout... I'd say that's definitely Newtralizer! The mystery is solved! :tlol:
Cudley The Cowlick
02-23-2014, 01:39 PM
Haha I suppose I could be wrong but it sure moved like LH, not Newt.
My money is still on a croc model, but it's so tiny.
Anyone have access to an inside source?
Edit: just watched some clips of Newt for reference. By Jove you may be right.
It'd be more extra effort on their part to strip the Newt model of his gear for this one tiny shot, but the rest of the model fits.
Jon_Talbain
02-23-2014, 01:43 PM
Now THIS episode was more like it. I was surprised so many times and the episode didn't go at all like I expected. I loved seeing so many of the past mutants and really loved the small moment between Raph and Spike/Slash. Metalhead was amazing and hopefully he will come back eventually.
I was hoping that April and Casey would be in the episode too. It is very surprising to see all the mutants working together too. If Spider Bytez went straight to the turtles for help, did he even plan to fight them anymore? And since Metalhead and the turtles helped Snakeweed, etc, I wonder what the villains will do now.
I still had a little bit of hope that Slash would stick around, but hope to see him again soon.
Electric
02-23-2014, 01:44 PM
since we've now seen the majority of new mutants we will get this season, i hope this episode releasing the other mutants means we will begin to get more episodes with them
snake
02-23-2014, 01:45 PM
It's probably just another newt mutant that the kraang experimented on. It honestly doesn't look like Newtrailzer or LH by themselves.
MCLeo28
02-23-2014, 01:47 PM
He was there, but it was the all white, blue winged version of him (his second form).
Yeah, I found him. The first time I saw it, I thought it was a Parasitica Wasp.
On a side note, the LH model does resemble the Newtralizer. The color of the tail seems accurate, the head is the approximately the same size and his feet seems to resemble the Newtralizer's. Only thing a little off about him is the lack of black spots.
I just asked Brandon wether or not that was Newtralizer... This is what he had to say:
Hmm hard to say; it's not supposed to be. Sometimes the overseas animators will screw up and add stuff they're not supposed to. I think they were just trying to fill up the far background with random mutants lol
Just another mutant the Kraang had in captivity it would seem. :)
ObiWanFan4life
02-23-2014, 01:52 PM
I'm curious, how DID the Kraang round up all the mutants? Especially Snakeweed.
Zulithe
02-23-2014, 01:52 PM
Due to the show being available on iTunes and other media locations at midnight, the thread has been opened early for those who wish to discuss it.
This thread will have spoilers. If you don't want to get spoiled for tomorrow morning, don't read it.
Thank you! :D
Well sorry that I did not notice the thread open early! But I did watch the episode at 12:10am! I will try to post earlier impressions next time now that I know the thread will be open.
I was so dead tired I went to sleep immediately after.
-As with a lot of the recent episodes, I really feel like the animation quality (the way the turtles move etc.) seems more fluid and realistic in season 2, particularly the episodes after the break. It's subtle, but I do feel like it's true.
-I knew we'd see Spider Bytez back eventually, but not like this. He was like totally helpless the entire episode
-While it was GREAT to see so many former characters returning, almost none of them got lines... which gave the whole sequence a strange feeling to me. But hey... at least now we have some answer to why all these villains aren't just out running the streets. The Kraang have been capturing them!
-LOVED how mikey discovered the door. Great character sequence.
-The algae tank? Somehow I never noticed that before, or considered that they must have a place to grow their food in such a way.
-Will there be a Metalhead 2.0? What will he look like?
snake
02-23-2014, 01:53 PM
I'm curious, how DID the Kraang round up all the mutants? Especially Snakeweed.
Stuffing them up into trucks? Or maybe they killed snakeweed and regrew him in the cell.
ObiWanFan4life
02-23-2014, 01:54 PM
Stuffing them up into trucks? Or maybe they killed snakeweed and regrew him in the cell.
Would have been interesting if we SAW it happen. Ah well.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 01:58 PM
Would have been interesting if we SAW it happen. Ah well.
Why would we need to see them capture every mutant? We saw Spiderbitez and we can assume it went down the same way for all the others.
The only one I have a hard time to believe they captured was Slash, since I can't see him going down easily in a fight.
snake
02-23-2014, 02:03 PM
Why would we need to see them capture every mutant? We saw Spiderbitez and we can assume it went down the same way for all the others.
The only one I have a hard time to believe they captured was Slash, since I can't see him going down easily in a fight.
Maybe the brought out Chromedome to capture some of the stronger ones.
ObiWanFan4life
02-23-2014, 02:04 PM
Why would we need to see them capture every mutant? We saw Spiderbitez and we can assume it went down the same way for all the others.
The only one I have a hard time to believe they captured was Slash, since I can't see him going down easily in a fight.
Ok, not ALL of the mutants per say, but it'd be nice to see or know how they got captured?
I'm curious, how DID the Kraang round up all the mutants? Especially Snakeweed.
Stuffing them up into trucks? Or maybe they killed snakeweed and regrew him in the cell.
He got frozen and destroyed at the end of "New Girl In Town" but was still alive. So I guess it was easy for the Kraang to collect the remains
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 02:08 PM
Ok, not ALL of the mutants per say, but it'd be nice to see or know how they got captured?
I didn't really see the problem. They could have showed glimpses of this in previous episodes but its not a big deal.
Technodrone
02-23-2014, 02:09 PM
I think the Metalhead R2D2 scream should have been on the poll. Would've gotten my vote over anything else. I think this episode was done well, but like so many Nick TMNT episodes, will likely leave questions unanswered yet again. How will this effect the relationships between the turtles and those mutants? My guess is that question won't be answered for at least another 5 or 6 episodes. I'm still waiting to see Leonardo's knowledge of Karai being Splinter's daughter come out in some capacity. I hate how they just shelve things, especially when they're important to the central story.
shredder orokusaki
02-23-2014, 02:13 PM
Great episode and it was nice to one of the turltes allies getting destroyed!! AHAHAHAHHAA
Ninjinister
02-23-2014, 02:13 PM
I'm curious, how DID the Kraang round up all the mutants? Especially Snakeweed.
They hired Aguila, Serpiente, Gato, and Mono.
snake
02-23-2014, 02:14 PM
Great episode and it was nice to one of the turltes allies getting destroyed!! AHAHAHAHHAA
I thought we stopped this?
ObiWanFan4life
02-23-2014, 02:15 PM
I thought we stopped this?
You do know about this guy's track record, right?
snake
02-23-2014, 02:16 PM
You do know about this guy's track record, right?
Yeah, I thought he said he was going to stop role playing. I guess I was wrong :trolleye:
fridaynightdestination
02-23-2014, 02:17 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but why did they let the mutants escape? Those mutants have tried to kill them, and they let them escape? A VERY small part of me hopes that one of the mutants kills them so they learn their leason.
ObiWanFan4life
02-23-2014, 02:18 PM
Yeah, I thought he said he was going to stop role playing. I guess I was wrong :trolleye:
Well, it's times like these where the ignore button come in handy.
MCLeo28
02-23-2014, 02:20 PM
Why would we need to see them capture every mutant? We saw Spiderbitez and we can assume it went down the same way for all the others.
The only one I have a hard time to believe they captured was Slash, since I can't see him going down easily in a fight.
Slash came after Chromedome, so we can assume that's not how Slash got captured.
However, I'm thinking Slash got captured after the fight against Raphael. It makes sense as Slash had just endured a hard hit from falling from the building. It's possible he escaped, but eventually got captured by the Kraang in his weak state.
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 02:20 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but why did they let the mutants escape? Those mutants have tried to kill them, and they let them escape? A VERY small part of me hopes that one of the mutants kills them so they learn their leason.
Having them all under the Kraang's control doesn't sound like a better idea.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 02:20 PM
Any screencrap of the Turtles in Time portal scene?
kelligrafie
02-23-2014, 02:22 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but why did they let the mutants escape? Those mutants have tried to kill them, and they let them escape? A VERY small part of me hopes that one of the mutants kills them so they learn their leason.
Because they're not trying to rule the world like the Kraang, most of them are just out for themselves. As long as they behave (mostly) the turtles will put up with them.
Plus some of them aren't villains, like Dr Rockwell and Kirby.
fridaynightdestination
02-23-2014, 02:30 PM
Having them all under the Kraang's control doesn't sound like a better idea.
They could've just told Metalhead to leave the portal open then leave the mutants there
DarkLightDragon
02-23-2014, 02:35 PM
They could've just told Metalhead to leave the portal open then leave the mutants there
Again, having the mutants run around with their own agendas seems more logical than having them stay as captives for the Kraang to control like slaves, which would make the Kraang more of a bigger threat than they already were to begin with.
And like someone else said already, most of the mutants aren't exactly 'evil' or wish to control the world like the Kraang. They're just off doing their own thing.
Luckyday
02-23-2014, 02:40 PM
Again, having the mutants run around with their own agendas seems more fair than having them stay as captives for the Kraang to control like slaves, which would make the Kraang more of a bigger threat than they already were to begin with.
And like someone else said already, most of the mutants aren't exactly 'evil' or wish to control the world like the Kraang. They're just off doing their own thing.
Plus would it really better for them if the Kraang had their own mind controlled mutant army? Better divide then united against the turtles.
Donatello19
02-23-2014, 02:41 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed before, but why did they let the mutants escape? Those mutants have tried to kill them, and they let them escape? A VERY small part of me hopes that one of the mutants kills them so they learn their leason.
...so it would be better to let the Kraang have a mind controlled mutant army?
Powder
02-23-2014, 02:52 PM
One of the best episodes of season 2, for sure. Maybe even my favorite so far! Amazing action, a tug at the heart strings, mutant rogues gallery in full view, enemies becoming friends, so much awesome wrapped up into one episode. Eager to see what will become of the friendliness between the turtles and all those (former?) villains, and if Donnie will rebuild Metalhead.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 03:28 PM
Spiderbitez would definitely benefit from becoming an ally of the Turtles. He was just a normal guy in his 50's and wasn't evil to begin with.
Not sure about Snakeweed though as he still needs humans to survive.
Ninjinister
02-23-2014, 03:48 PM
and if Donnie will rebuild Fugitoid.
All of my what.
Luckyday
02-23-2014, 03:55 PM
For reason, I find it comforting knowing if a mutant was in trouble (even if that mutant is a**hole) they would go out of their way to help and not just Mikey. It shows how they tried to be neutral when comes to everybody.
Powder
02-23-2014, 04:42 PM
All of my what.
Whoops! I meant Metalhead. I had Fugitoid on the brain because this episode got me thinking about IDW's use of Metalhead in the next few issues. I was curious if perhaps IDW would pull a Nick, and have Fugitoid turn into Metalhead.
Just finished watching this episode really well done poor Metalhead I think Don will rebuild him.
OrangeNinja1987
02-23-2014, 04:57 PM
A pretty good episode. I liked it but it's not one of my favorites. I was really glad that this episode explained why so many mutants haven't been showing up again because that was starting to annoy me. I was surprised to seen Pigeon Pete, such a small character from something like episode 8. Now I wonder if all the freed mutants will be coming back with their own episodes. I'd like to see another SpiderBytes episode, he's a good character and I didn't hate Turtle Temper as much as some people did.
I did notice Leonardo was being a little mean in this episode, but he had good reasons. Mikey trying to get the Pizza Burrito out of the vending machine was the funniest part for me.
And when the turtles heard Donatello screaming after Metalhead attacked him and ran into the lab to see Donnie in the algae pool, I at first thought that it was a pool of mutagen he uses for the retro-mutagen tests. That really freaked me out.
Not very excited for Ice Cream Kitty. It looks like it just mutates and they put it in a freezer from what I saw of the preview. I wonder how that episode will get the action in.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 05:16 PM
http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2014/02/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-36-metalhead.html been busy dog and cat sitting, but here's my review. I think most of my thoughts are the same, but yeah, I do believe as long as Don has his head, he can rebuild a new Metalhead with its memory intact.
victory_angel
02-23-2014, 05:19 PM
Leo did come across as an over protective Asshole in this ep, but I think their is some justification. Leo has a very by the book view when it comes to Ninjitsu so in his mind Robots made from alien technology have no place it it. Particularly when said robot has been possessed by the aliens it originated from at least once in the past. And in the previous episode it was explained that Leo's greatest fear is failing to protect his brothers. So all action that seemed threatening gave him all the more proof that Metalhead was not to be trusted.
This is where Leo and Donnie tend to clash most because while Leo is more Traditional, Donnie is more innovative in that he wishes to use his skills in technology as an assist them in their fight against the Kraang and the Foot. But also as a means to benefit man kind.
Jester
02-23-2014, 05:25 PM
Quien Es Mas Macho?
Burrito o Pizza?
Did Metalhead just R2D2 scream?
Metalwolf
02-23-2014, 05:27 PM
Spiderbitez would definitely benefit from becoming an ally of the Turtles. He was just a normal guy in his 50's and wasn't evil to begin with.
Not sure about Snakeweed though as he still needs humans to survive.It was why I wondered why they still let of the more dangerous mutant guys go. Most of them seem to leave humans alone (as far as I know) and thus are 'harmless' but with Snakeweed and likely the Squirrelenoids? It's a bit odd that they'd let a guy known to use captured humans as 'fertilizer' go loose. And the Squirrelenoids are active predators, leaving them go would be dangerous to humans as well.
MCLeo28
02-23-2014, 05:32 PM
It was why I wondered why they still let of the more dangerous mutant guys go. Most of them seem to leave humans alone (as far as I know) and thus are 'harmless' but with Snakeweed and likely the Squirrelenoids? It's a bit odd that they'd let a guy known to use captured humans as 'fertilizer' go loose. And the Squirrelenoids are active predators, leaving them go would be dangerous to humans as well.
That would be an illogical choice as it would make the Kraang a bigger threat than they already are. It's better just to let them out and if they do cause havoc, the turtles have it under control, but mutants allied with the Kraang would be a catastrophe. Even with all of the turtles, they couldn't stand up to the Kraang bots combined with SnakeWeed and SpiderBytez.
victory_angel
02-23-2014, 05:37 PM
It was why I wondered why they still let of the more dangerous mutant guys go. Most of them seem to leave humans alone (as far as I know) and thus are 'harmless' but with Snakeweed and likely the Squirrelenoids? It's a bit odd that they'd let a guy known to use captured humans as 'fertilizer' go loose. And the Squirrelenoids are active predators, leaving them go would be dangerous to humans as well.
Well at the time they were releasing the other mutants, they didn't have an opportunity to say "This mutant is good, this mutants bad...this mutants kinda okay...I don't know do you guys think we should release him?"
If they had abandoned the mutants, or chosen to rescue those they knew were good then they would have been no better then the foot or kraang themselves. So in their mind it was better to rescue all mutants, and then deal with the dangerous ones on a later date.
blindturtle02
02-23-2014, 05:44 PM
A pretty good episode. I liked it but it's not one of my favorites. I was really glad that this episode explained why so many mutants haven't been showing up again because that was starting to annoy me. I was surprised to seen Pigeon Pete, such a small character from something like episode 8. Now I wonder if all the freed mutants will be coming back with their own episodes. I'd like to see another SpiderBytes episode, he's a good character and I didn't hate Turtle Temper as much as some people did.
I did notice Leonardo was being a little mean in this episode, but he had good reasons. Mikey trying to get the Pizza Burrito out of the vending machine was the funniest part for me.
And when the turtles heard Donatello screaming after Metalhead attacked him and ran into the lab to see Donnie in the algae pool, I at first thought that it was a pool of mutagen he uses for the retro-mutagen tests. That really freaked me out.
Not very excited for Ice Cream Kitty. It looks like it just mutates and they put it in a freezer from what I saw of the preview. I wonder how that episode will get the action in.
I hope to see more of SpiderBytes too. I don't know how I'd feel about all these guys teaming up with the turtles on a regular basis. Some of them EG Snakeweed and Spider make interesting villains. But they do need more allies. Hoping the next time they see SpiderBytes, he's his old rude and crude self. I'm hoping everyone was working together because they were of course more angry with the Kraang than the turtles. Although I did enjoy seeing everyone united. Felt quite epic. And the vending machine bit cracked me up. It reminded me of one of my favorite Simpsons episodes, Marge on The Lam, where Homer has his own skirmish with a vending machine.
Coola Yagami
02-23-2014, 05:44 PM
Well at the time they were releasing the other mutants, they didn't have an opportunity to say "This mutant is good, this mutants bad...this mutants kinda okay...I don't know do you guys think we should release him?"
If they had abandoned the mutants, or chosen to rescue those they knew were good then they would have been no better then the foot or kraang themselves. So in their mind it was better to rescue all mutants, and then deal with the dangerous ones on a later date.
"You better snap it up Donatello, or this is gonna become a two-part episode!"
plastroncafe
02-23-2014, 05:47 PM
I really liked the return of the other mutants, thought that was a nice way of explaining why we haven't seen hide nor scale/leg/hair/fur/feather of them. Very much liked the Terminator shout outs.
Cute episode.
I'm seriously going to go on the hunt for a Metalhead action figure. I love his design.
Donatello19
02-23-2014, 05:49 PM
You see...THIS is how you do a Kraang episode. Also, did Spider Bytez have a different voice actor? He sounded a bit different.
That was definitely Lewis Black.
NinjaPug
02-23-2014, 06:01 PM
That was definitely Lewis Black.
To me it sounded like someone doing a Lewis Black impersonation. I didn't see his name in the credits either like Corey Feldman was. I could've just missed it though.
CyberCubed
02-23-2014, 06:40 PM
Of course now that the mutants are all loose on the city again, this just re-creates the problem of, "where are they and what are they doing?" all over again.
lol.
madyankees
02-23-2014, 07:01 PM
What a sad episode. Metalhead was my fav character in the Nick show.
I think he will be the only non turtle nick figure I will get
Chaotix12345
02-23-2014, 07:34 PM
Really great episode. More Metalhead is always nice and it was awesome to finally get an explanation of where these rogue mutants always disappear to. Seeing Slash again and him getting a brief moment of interaction with Raph was the icing on the cake. :D
I didn't see his name in the credits either like Corey Feldman was. I could've just missed it though.
You did. He was credited next to Splinter and the Kraang as Lewis Black. Slash had his own separate page.
NinjaPug
02-23-2014, 07:47 PM
You did. He was credited next to Splinter and the Kraang as Lewis Black. Slash had his own separate page.
Ah, thx for the confirmation/clarification.
Ashwolf
02-23-2014, 08:19 PM
sweet ep, was really surprised by some of it
mikey trying 2 get in the vending machine had me laughing hard
also think that since mikey was the only 1 that could open the porta-potty door/open the portal, the retro-mutagen incident back in shellacne might affected him deeper by making the mutagen residue in him more "pure"
was awesome 2 see slash again, cant wait 4 the finale since he might show up again
still curious on how they managed 2 catch him in the 1st place unless they used the cattleprods again
was saddened by metalhead getting destroyed but if I remember right, metalhead should be rebuilt soon cause wasn't there some talk about some1 voicing metalhead?
really anxious 4 more stuff involving Justin or some of the other mutants
bigk4062
02-23-2014, 08:21 PM
All i know is everytime metalhead grabbed Mikey I thought of Leatherhead and Donnie.... paybacks a you-know-what ;)
All i know is everytime metalhead grabbed Mikey I thought of Leatherhead and Donnie.... paybacks a you-know-what ;)
Face grabbing... It's a tradition! :tlol:
Ninjinister
02-23-2014, 08:40 PM
Turtle allies with a "-head" name certainly seem to enjoy palming their faces.
bigk4062
02-23-2014, 08:51 PM
It should be a running gag... all we need is for someone to do it for Raph and Leo!!! I just though it was kinda like the Timothy thing... Donnie saying something about Mikey laughing at him and LH and wanting to get revenge... of course I'm just over thinking things again!!
Reputator
02-23-2014, 09:12 PM
This was easily my favorite episode of the season so far. Love Spider Bytes, and loved the story and epic battle in this one.
blindturtle02
02-23-2014, 09:21 PM
Face grabbing... It's a tradition! :tlol:
I'd much rather have LH grab me by the face than Mutagen Man! Hmm, Raph needs to be grabbed by Spyroach. That'd scare him plenty!
Yeah SpiderBytes was def Lewis Black. I think they pitched his voice down a little the first time we saw him mutated. They didn't this time and I think I like this version better. He did roughen it just a little but sounded like good ol Vic to me. I wasn't sure if he'd be coming back to play the role but was super excited to hear him again. I'm ready to see more of these guys, especially Slash, SpiderBytes, ok everybody. We were surprised and excited to see Slash so soon after his debut. And yeah, I'm also wondering what's next for these other mutants?
drgon78
02-23-2014, 09:31 PM
Good episode ,plus I liked getting to see all those mutants from the both seasons.
Rukitron
02-23-2014, 10:48 PM
I hope Metalhead MK2 is the same design and not an excuse for a new toy. Just sayin.
Powder
02-23-2014, 10:59 PM
Now that you bring up the idea, I actually hope it IS a new design for that very reason! I'd love another MH toy. :trazz:
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
02-23-2014, 11:48 PM
I thought the ep developed a little slowly but something really "clicked" when they followed Metalhead through the portal. I felt genuinely bad for Metalhead because he has been one of my favorite characters of this series. I've also not really cared if I seen Spiderbytez again but actually liked him in this ep and would like to see him more. I thought it was cool how he was using his web shooting ability to get himself out of the portal. I literally laughed out loud when he spoke Kraang Speak. The writers seem to really be trying to work in the villains and characters anyway they can because they used Squirrelanoid and Kirby last week as well. They still keep teasing us with Dimension X and I really wish they would just take us there already! LOL! Also am I the only one that got a sort of Wall-e vibe from Metalhead in this ep?
demonsweat
02-24-2014, 01:15 AM
I love Metalhead and was so excited to see him return in this episode, with new AI, and then... and then...
Aw man, I'm gonna - I'm gonna need a moment here... :tcry:
Seriously amazing episode. This show has been tons of fun but this one got me. I've always had a thing for sentient robots and maybe that's why, but I was literally shouting "Metalhead, nooooooo" at that final scene! So good, Nick team! Bravo. :D
And as for Donnie, I agree: that boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BWBn26bX0) needs therapy.
The Turtle Terminator
02-24-2014, 02:43 AM
I loved it. Best S2 episode. Metalhead was such a hero. Nice to hear from Spider Bytez and all the other mutants again. The only thing I hated was the end of Metalhead. Hopefully he comes back some day. One question though. I don't know if anyone has asked this before. Can someone show me a screencap of Spy-Roach/Chong/Cockroach Terminator because I didn't see him?
Zulithe
02-24-2014, 03:59 AM
I hope Metalhead MK2 is the same design and not an excuse for a new toy. Just sayin.
Hehe I wonder if Don would really name him MK2, hope so :lol:
And of COURSE he'd have a new design, why wouldn't it? As you can see Don only has his head... he'd have to rebuild the rest from all his junk parts, no way he could perfectly replicate it anyway.
No secret that TMNT, like a lot of kids shows, makes its money more from the toys than the actual show. So from that perspective, having Don build a NEW Metal Head does give them an excuse to make a new toy and, in turn, more money. They did the same thing with Dogpound/Rahzar and eventually when we get a Baxter Fly toy that will make yet another instance. And we all know that is coming eventually!
I'm not saying they destroyed him simply for this reason though. I do like the episode and how he sacrificed himself and all. I hope the next metalhead is even more intelligent, useful and most of all... cool looking!
VaughnMichael
02-24-2014, 07:37 AM
You see...THIS is how you do a Kraang episode. Also, did Spider Bytez have a different voice actor? He sounded a bit different.
Yeah it sounded off for me as well.
It sounded more like Wallace Shawn than Lewis Black to me.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001728/?ref_=tt_cl_t14
Shark_Blade
02-24-2014, 07:58 AM
Mikey sure farts a LOT in this episode. O.o (that reminds me of that sound when Raph sat on Donnie in the dojo, he did fart on him lol)
Anyway back to the episode. Goodness gracious, why am I so emotional over a metal robot death? Because he's... good? :cry:
Ashwolf
02-24-2014, 08:30 AM
bit of a theory but any1 else think that metalhead getting destroyed was a way of opening it up 4 slash l8r on?
kelligrafie
02-24-2014, 08:32 AM
also think that since mikey was the only 1 that could open the porta-potty door/open the portal, the retro-mutagen incident back in shellacne might affected him deeper by making the mutagen residue in him more "pure"
I think you're thinking too much.
LeotheLateBloomer
02-24-2014, 08:33 AM
This was a really good episode. Metalhead looked like he was going to turn against the turtles but in the end, he really came through. my favorite moments is when his hand kept flying off and grabbing Mikey by the face. Maybe Mikey will now know how Donnie felt when his friend Leatherhead grabbed his face. Speaking of Leatherhead, I'm surprised we didn't him, besides the image one of you posted. And I thought the ending was really sad. Metalhead really came though. This is one of the best episodes of the season. Great job, Ciro!:D
Zulithe
02-24-2014, 08:48 AM
Mikey sure farts a LOT in this episode. O.o (that reminds me of that sound when Raph sat on Donnie in the dojo, he did fart on him lol)
Anyway back to the episode. Goodness gracious, why am I so emotional over a metal robot death? Because he's... good? :cry:
Sometimes I sit and contemplate TMNT on a serious level. Plotlines, character development, loose threads, the artistic design going into each frame of beautiful animation.
Then I remember: Oh yeah, this show has a lot of farts in it.
:lol:
After that, I usually go back to contemplating. Fan gotta fan.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
02-24-2014, 09:29 AM
So, where was that prison located.
Jon_Talbain
02-24-2014, 09:59 AM
bit of a theory but any1 else think that metalhead getting destroyed was a way of opening it up 4 slash l8r on?
I had some hope that Slash was going to try to come back with Raph. Well, I hope your theory is true, because that would be great. But I still hope Metalhead gets rebuilt too.
Speaking of Leatherhead, I'm surprised we didn't him, besides the image one of you posted.
It wasn't him... Just a random background mutant. It appeared to use Newtralizer's model.
Megchan
02-24-2014, 10:29 AM
They could've just told Metalhead to leave the portal open then leave the mutants there
They would have still been released into the streets of New York, which is what you said they should not have done.
The mutants were released from their cells to cause chaos in the Kraang lab and fight the Kraang. The turtles couldn't really pick and choose what mutant should or shouldn't go through the portal because they were busy fighting the Kraang.
raphmike
02-24-2014, 11:07 AM
10/10 i love this episode and i see all past mutant only one really lucky
save with donnie is timothy (mutagen man)
victory_angel
02-24-2014, 11:12 AM
I think you're thinking too much.
Actually I believe his/her theory may hold weight. Why is it that Mikey was the only one who could access that portal? Maybe it has something to do with the fact he is the only turtle who has doused himself with a rejected batch of mutagen? So this could be an unforeseen side affect.
Or you could chalk it up to Mikey being the Pinky Pie of the show.
Then again it could be that all the Turtles will discover unforeseen abilities in themselves and learn what these strange abilities mean.
kelligrafie
02-24-2014, 11:43 AM
Actually I believe his/her theory may hold weight. Why is it that Mikey was the only one who could access that portal? Maybe it has something to do with the fact he is the only turtle who has doused himself with a rejected batch of mutagen? So this could be an unforeseen side affect.
Or you could chalk it up to Mikey being the Pinky Pie of the show.
Then again it could be that all the Turtles will discover unforeseen abilities in themselves and learn what these strange abilities mean.
Again, thinking too much.
Mikey's just... flukey. He does things without thinking. Or rather CAN do things without thinking.
Maybe the portaloo thing is a sly referance to the Dr Rockwell, ninja-without-thinking lesson.
But that's most likely just over-analysing on our parts. Sometimes stuff just happens, there doesn't have to be a hidden message in everything.
Just sit back and enjoy the show without thinking about it. Be like Mikey.
Gin Rummy
02-24-2014, 01:20 PM
This one was really good. It was really nice to see all those familiar faces again. Although i still hope we get a traditional Night of the Rogues type episode.
blindturtle02
02-24-2014, 02:05 PM
So, where was that prison located.
Hmm, just what I was wondering. Well, it must be somewhere on Earth. Technodrome perhaps? To quote the random joe April was interviewing in OT Turtle Tracks,"I have absolutely no idea." haha Hoping it's the technodrome but that's just me.
Metalhead wasn't in Fungus Humungous which makes me begin to wonder, I know the production code says otherwise, but I wonder if this episode was originally supposed to be before Fungus Humungous, because Donnie's attitude change and obsession for April's well being in FH makes much more sense if that episode was supposed to be immediately after Donnie losing Metalhead.
bigk4062
02-24-2014, 03:55 PM
Overall I thought it was a pretty good episode... and I'd like to thank Machias for opening the thread early I wasn't able to see the episode til last night and it was nice to get a preview from the itunes crowd :D
What an amazing episode. It really surprised me how much the ending with Metalhead affected me.
I really enjoyed it, not one weak part in this episode.
kolaida
02-24-2014, 05:15 PM
I really enjoyed the episode! I've never been a huge fan of sentient robots. I don't really get what all the sentiment is about for a machine that is programmed but that's just me. I thought the episode was super cute and Metalhead did grow on me and he is super cute and I wouldn't mind seeing a second, I did feel bad for Donnie that he was sad. I enjoyed the bits with Leo as he seemed frustrated and I think he was just hoping Donnie would turn the AI off on his own, so that was fun!
I loved the mutant prison, that was so MUCH win!
But the real treat for me was definitely Mikey, I just loved him in the episode, he seems to be remaining clueless but more believably so in that easy going manner that some people have (and I envy oh so much). I loved all the scenes with him! I especially loved the vending machine part xD And the portapotty portal! Like others have stated, I guessed Mikey could and the other couldn't due to him throwing mutagen on himself (I guess we'll see if it's true or not, I feel like it's a pretty obvious thing, but we'll see). It definitely was one of my fave parts (LTD, lol!) xD Oh, Mikey! Much love for ya!
Gwydion
02-24-2014, 09:30 PM
I dunno, I didn't seem to enjoy it as much as others. Had the Slash cameo not been there, I likely would have just overlooked it. I find that sad and frustrating because this is the best Donnie's been in almost the entire show. I've come to dislike him in more episodes than I like him, so by this point, I couldn't connect with him, which is especially weird since I did quite like Metalhead. So the episode didn't have the impact it should have had for me personally.
That being said, it was still solid with some really fun scenes. I thought Leo seemed a tad cranky, but I really liked everyone else. The mutant escape scene was awesome, and while I didn't find it particularly surprising, I'm glad they didn't make Metalhead "go bad".
But the highlight for me was definitely Slash's appearance. It was great seeing him again, and I kind of love that Raph still calls him Spike. The little nod between the two was exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for - just a short, quiet scene to show the two still respect and care about each other on some level.
Darth Knuckles
02-25-2014, 12:53 AM
Poor Donnie! :tsad: If it's not Timothy, April, or Kirby he's trying to protect and/or save it's also Metalhead. Metalhead sure did pull through though for the turtles and all of the other mutants. Poor guy.
As others have mentioned, at least this episode gives a reason why the other mutants aren't making a bigger impact on the city or appearing on the news.
I loved the R2-D2 references when Metalhead tried to connect with The Kraang technology. Because before the sounds occurred the device coming out of Metalhead's finger reminded me of R2-D2.
It was neat to see all of the mutants together in one place. Sure didn't need to let loose The Parasitica Wasp or The Squirrelanoid but what are you going to do. It was cool to see Slash again too. And the short but sweet exchange between Raph and Slash was cool too.
Duz_machines2
02-25-2014, 02:18 AM
This was a great episode, i'm just curious as to where the newtralizer/ Mutagen man was....plus no retrieved Leatherhead :cry: Looking forward to the next ep!
Shark_Blade
02-25-2014, 02:37 AM
I wanna watch again the episode but I can't deal with Metalhead's demise.
http://i.imgur.com/lLRmpci.gif
Funny I never felt anything about robot's death before. Even when Optimus Prime died in T2, some of my friends were teary but I was like "meh" ._.
Pagong
02-25-2014, 05:03 AM
A lot of feel for this episode... the ending really hit the soft spot. When Metalhead first appeared he was kinda "ok" to me, but now I love the dude.
kolaida
02-25-2014, 05:41 AM
This was a great episode, i'm just curious as to where the newtralizer/ Mutagen man was....plus no retrieved Leatherhead :cry: Looking forward to the next ep!
Pretty sure that Mutagen Man is frozen in Donnie's lab somewhere (or his room). I think Leatherhead and Newtralizer (I hate that spelling <<) are in actually in another dimension (possibly Dimension X).
Duz_machines2
02-25-2014, 05:52 AM
Pretty sure that Mutagen Man is frozen in Donnie's lab somewhere (or his room). I think Leatherhead and Newtralizer (I hate that spelling <<) are in actually in another dimension (possibly Dimension X).
Thanks, I was unsure, still I can't wait for their returns.
kolaida
02-25-2014, 06:07 AM
Thanks, I was unsure, still I can't wait for their returns.
No prob! I'm looking forward to it, too. Maybe the Turtles will wind up in Dimension X and see them there (if that is the dimension they are in).
VaughnMichael
02-25-2014, 08:39 AM
Thanks, I was unsure, still I can't wait for their returns.
Yeah he was frozen in this episode in Don's lab.
If you look in the background when Don is working on Metalhead you can see Tim back there.
I really like the TVs he has hooked up showing Tim's vitals and all.
bigk4062
02-25-2014, 10:44 AM
The part when Metalhead started shaking his head no when Donny was gonna turn him off makes me wanna cry everytime...
Donatello19
02-25-2014, 02:12 PM
That awkward moment when you care more about a robot than most of the other characters (I didn't even feel this bad when April's dad was mutated :ohwell: )
BabyTurtles
02-25-2014, 02:20 PM
That awkward moment when you care more about a robot than most of the other characters (I didn't even feel this bad when April's dad was mutated :ohwell: )
XD.....yea me too....that's kinda sad.
Metalhead was more helpful than April's dad.
Most of the time Kirby has shown to just be a scaredy cat.
blindturtle02
02-25-2014, 02:29 PM
XD.....yea me too....that's kinda sad.
Metalhead was more helpful than April's dad.
Most of the time Kirby has shown to just be a scaredy cat.
Scaredy bat, you mean. hehe Yeah, hoping they bring Metalhead back eventually. I have a feeling they will. We might not see him for a while but I'm sure he isn't gone for good. I wonder what tech the upgraded Metalhead will boast. Can't wait for his return some day.
DarkLightDragon
02-25-2014, 02:56 PM
That awkward moment when you care more about a robot than most of the other characters (I didn't even feel this bad when April's dad was mutated :ohwell: )
That's because they gave us a reason to like or even care about MH before something happened to him.
That's because they gave us a reason to like or even care about MH before something happened to him.
And what reason would that be?
All we had seen from Metalhead in this show was attacking the turtles, going rouge, making random appearances, and being destroyed (Heck, this wasn't even the first time he was destroyed this season)
The ending was emotional because it was written and done well.
If you sit back and think about it, there wasn't exactly much done to make you "care" about the character in this incarnation, but only based on incarnations before it.
DarkLightDragon
02-25-2014, 03:33 PM
It was more than what little we were given with Kirby besides him being April's dad was my point.
And yes, it's extremely telling that MH's sacrifice is getting more emotional responses than April losing her dad yet again.
It was more than what little we were given with Kirby besides him being April's dad was my point.
And yes, it's extremely telling that MH's sacrifice is getting more emotional responses than April losing her dad yet again.
Not really though.
Metalhead is dead pretty much, sacrificed himself (Which most people, except me apparently, didn't expect) to end an emotional episode to prove that he could be trusted.
April's dad is still alive and was mutated (which we all saw coming) in the middle of an episode that was 4 months ago.
I'm just saying let's wait a good while and see if people still carry the same emotional content to an emotional scene that happened more or less just yesterday. I'm pretty sure it won't carry the same emotional feeling by then.
DarkLightDragon
02-25-2014, 03:49 PM
I wasn't that moved by the sacrifice either, but it does further annoy me at how very half-a***d this show handles drama and how the characters perceive drama.
I was still moved by it, I just expected it, so I guess I didn't feel down as much as others because I saw it coming.
Now I was down by Donnie's reaction to Metalhead's sacrifice, I'll say that. That was hard for me to watch.
DarkLightDragon
02-25-2014, 03:57 PM
Fair enough.
victory_angel
02-25-2014, 03:59 PM
And what reason would that be?
All we had seen from Metalhead in this show was attacking the turtles, going rouge, making random appearances, and being destroyed (Heck, this wasn't even the first time he was destroyed this season)
The ending was emotional because it was written and done well.
If you sit back and think about it, there wasn't exactly much done to make you "care" about the character in this incarnation, but only based on incarnations before it.
I think is wasn't so much the robot but the fact that the robot had in a sense become a person. And how the differing views on the robot are were presented.
Leo as I have pointed out has a very by the book view on Ninjitsu so his attitude is "This is the way we have been taught and that is the correct way of being a ninja." So technology, particularly Alien tech has no place in Ninjitsu.
Donnie isn't as traditional but finds ways to adapt technology into ninjitsu, or in some cases substitutes it.
Metalhead has become Donnie's friend in many ways and he knows just because it was alien tech from their enemy, that didn't make him bad.
Leo on the other hand is thinking about the safety of his family and home. So having something created from their enemies technology doesn't sit well with him. Particularly since Metalhead has been reprogrammed by their enemy before. So he can easily turn on them again.
Metalhead listening to the conversation Leo and Donnie were having about how it would be better if he were shut down. Metalhead knew there was only one way to prove he was their ally and that was to take matters into his own robotic hands and deal with the Kraang himself.
And in the end he chooses to sacrifice itself in order for the turtles to have an an opportunity to escape. Proving to all the Turtles while the Kraang themselves are evil...their technology can be used for the purposes of good.
It also is the Antithesis of the Slash and Destroy ep. In Slash and Destroy, Slash wanted to take out the Turtles so that he and Raph would be a team unto themselves and that resulted in Raph siding with his brothers against his friend.
In Metalhead Rewired-Metalhead wanted to prove he was a worthy and useful ally. And while the obvious choice would have been Metalhead returning to his Kraang roots and turning against the Turtles, he instead chooses to show that he had evolved from what he originally had been.
CowabungaMikey
02-26-2014, 01:01 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/t34/1922609_643173432420701_637804099_n.jpg?oh=0ac28de 66c9a8c6f1aca066aa05ed357&oe=530F8B23&__gda__=1393523789_0b7d38d1d4b07cf3daee9f534b51296 b
This.
Great episode.
shihe
02-26-2014, 04:13 PM
This episode blew my mind.
As a Metalhead fan, this episode was JUSTICE for the mechanical turtle.
Seriously, I just love how much of a little show off he is.
Some of my favorite scenes involved him kicking one of the Kraang, as he flew full throttle towards it.
And I wonder if anyone else got the reference for his wings, which if I saw what I THINK I saw, he was wearing these set of wings:
http://http://www.nintendoplayer.com/prototypes/turtlesintime/krang.gif
blue_angel99
02-26-2014, 11:52 PM
Man, wish I had my tissue box for this episode.
Metalhead was so adorable. I will miss him. :tthumbsu:
The Raph/Spike moment was also touching. Even though Spike is a psycho, Raph still cares for him.
Also, does Mikey have some secret ability to open portals, or was that just a gag?
BabyTurtles
02-26-2014, 11:57 PM
Also, does Mikey have some secret ability to open portals, or was that just a gag?
I'm pretty sure it was just a gag :D
but if it pops up again I won't complain~
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
02-26-2014, 11:58 PM
I'm pretty sure it was just a gag :D
but if it pops up again I won't complain~
Before I realized it was a joke I thought "are they gonna make it out that Mikey has some sorta connection to the Kraang?" I'm glad it was just a joke.
blue_angel99
02-27-2014, 12:25 AM
I'm pretty sure it was just a gag :D
but if it pops up again I won't complain~
Me too. The prank possibilities would be endless.
bigk4062
02-27-2014, 07:36 AM
They gotta give Mikey something he can't always be the crazy one... besides my nephew has been quoting him all week when he does something 'amazing' LTD like a turtle do!!! ;)
Grugel
02-27-2014, 04:38 PM
Best episode of season 2 ! It was a grand finish to Metalhead mark 1 I loved the little guy he always put a smile on my face . Not to mention being the heartless bastard I am this episode left me in tears . R.I.P Metalhead 2012-2014 You will be rebuilt !
I just rewatched this episode and Fungus Humungous back to back, and despite what the production code says, I'm convinced that Metalhead Rewired was originally supposed to be before F.H.
The events of Fungus Humungous make more sense in that order:
: Leo's fears of failure and losing the team seem so sudden. To me they appear to be a direct result of seeing Metalhead sacrifice himself and seeing Donnie's reaction to the loss.
: Splinter telling Leonardo about his fear seems to be setting up to the very next episode, rather than having another episode sandwiched in between
: And Donnie's attitude change towards Casey hanging out with April (Who he views so far as a reckless punk) as well as his obsession for April's well-being in F.H. seem directly concurrent to him losing Metalhead shortly before hand.
I'm going to start watching M.R. before F.H. because the character progression so far from what I've seen seems like it should be in that order.
Coola Yagami
02-28-2014, 06:59 PM
They gotta give Mikey something he can't always be the crazy one... besides my nephew has been quoting him all week when he does something 'amazing' LTD like a turtle do!!! ;)
For whatever reason I like it when mikey says 'like a turtle do'. Lol.
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