Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[TMNTChris1980]

The trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy was released this week, and WOW! My facebook feed was exploding with the people sharing the trailer. People who had no idea what it was until the trailer was released were talking about it too.

The fact that the trailer was launched on Jimmy Kimmel also brought in a huge hype factor.

So with all that...

Did Guardians of the Galaxy just win the month of August, and is this another nail in the TMNT 2014 movie coffin?

[CyberCubed]

I hope so. This movie will hopefully kill the TMNT movie dead .

Never have I wanted a TMNT property to bomb so bad.

[Candy Kappa]

Afraid it's a big possibility that Guardians will outshine TMNT.

As much as I negatively critique what we've seen as of this date, I still hope the movie will reel in enough to make more stuff that I can enjoy. Just what the TF movies did.

[turtlefanforever]

I mean we haven't even had a tmnt trailer. It could bring a big boom for sure, you can't really say until August, especially not until the tmnt trailer. But it could in the end and I think it's a big possibility.

[CyberCubed]

Afraid it's a big possibility that Guardians will outshine TMNT.

As much as I negatively critique what we've seen as of this date, I still hope the movie will reel in enough to make more stuff that I can enjoy. Just what the TF movies did.

You should hope Turtles bombs so the next movie is a proper reboot.

[TrickOrTreater]

It's definitely a possibility.

A lot of positive buzz about this new trailer(and well earned, it looks awesome).

TMNT's main competition stepped up to the plate and hit a home run.

It's their move to give us something. Anything.

[Candy Kappa]

You should hope Turtles bombs so the next movie is a proper reboot.

which will what, possibly take a decade?

I'm a patient person, but really. This movie isn't for me, never will be with it's direction. And I'm okay with it cause we still have decent quality stuff.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

http://www.thewrap.com/guardians-galaxy-trailer-social-media-smash-bigger-man-steel/

It's certainly possibly. Granted, social media chatter doesn't always translate into box office $$$, but at the very least, it has people talking and most of what is being said is very positive.

[chrisdude]

I wish I got it. I don't get it. I watched the trailer. It looked like fun. But I don't know what clicked with everyone. It didn't even show what the story is about.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

wow you new fans really are an impatient bunch arnt you...cant even wait a couple months

[Candy Kappa]

wow you new fans really are an impatient bunch arnt you...cant even wait a couple months

impatience among fans isn't the issue at hand. The lack of marketing is eerie, especially when a Marvel movie got so much.

[TrickOrTreater]

I wish I got it. I don't get it. I watched the trailer. It looked like fun. But I don't know what clicked with everyone. It didn't even show what the story is about.

Because it was a teaser. Teasers don't show story.

Trailers show story.

[TigerClaw]

Teasers only show the imagery to wet people's appetite, When the 2nd trailer comes out, It'll focus more on Story. I have a feeling the Teaser Trailer for TMNT will be just that. Lots of flashes of images and and maybe show the Turtles doing something, Perhaps show them doing a Fighting Stance.

[TrickOrTreater]

wow you new fans really are an impatient bunch arnt you...cant even wait a couple months

:roll:

It's not about new fans or impatience or whatever ******** you want to call it.

It's about marketing. Specifically marketing for big budget comic book type movies.

Movies like TMNT.

Movies like this get promo material sometimes a year to years in advance. That's usual a teaser poster or character teaser images. TMNT hasn't gotten that.

A year to about 6 months from release it gets a teaser trailer. TMNT hasn't gotten that.

Any of it. It's 5 months before release and we only just now know what the stars of the freaking movie look like because of an accidental leak of a children's halloween costume, slightly blurry leaked shots of some production maquettes, a leaked shot of a merchandise promo image and some action figures.

THAT'S UNUSUAL.

[chrisdude]

I wasn't questioning why the story wasn't revealed. Only why people care about movies without knowing what they're about.

[TrickOrTreater]

I wasn't questioning why the story wasn't revealed. Only why people care about movies without knowing what they're about.

Because it looks like fun?

Because they're a fan of the comic book/characters?

[Donatello19]

Am I the only one who has no idea what GOTG is?

[TrickOrTreater]

Am I the only one who has no idea what GOTG is?

It's a Marvel space comic book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_(2008_team)

[Plasticplayhouse]

it looks pretty good, but i wouldnt count it as #1 yet. the GotG comic didnt do as strong as they hoped. i liked it and i think it will translate well into a movie, but the general mavel fanbase didnt seem to grab onto it much.

[plastroncafe]

We'll know for sure if everything else due out in August gets rescheduled.

[TrickOrTreater]

We'll know for sure if everything else due out in August gets rescheduled.

Oh if they push it back again that's just a guarantee that the studio has zero faith in the movie and are just trying to cut their losses as much as possible.

[Bry]

it looks pretty good, but i wouldnt count it as #1 yet. the GotG comic didnt do as strong as they hoped. i liked it and i think it will translate well into a movie, but the general mavel fanbase didnt seem to grab onto it much.

Apples and oranges, really. Iron Man wasn't really considered an A-list superhero character until the movie was a massive success. It's hard to say what will strike a chord with a mainstream audience. Sometimes one really good/fun movie is all it takes for a franchise to catch fire.

[TrickOrTreater]

Apples and oranges, really. Iron Man wasn't really considered an A-list superhero character until the movie was a massive success. It's hard to say what will strike a chord with a mainstream audience. Sometimes one really good/fun movie is all it takes for a franchise to catch fire.

Exactly. Iron Man was no where near as popular as say Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, etc.

Now, he's a household name.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

TMNT will absolutely flop. Just compare it to the new RoboCop - it's a reboot that I personally don't think received a lot of marketing, and it came out right near The Lego Movie, which was a huuuuge mistake. According to Wikipedia it cost $130 million to make, but has made only $100 million. I think that's what you'd consider a box office 'flop'.

Right now anything with Marvel's name attached is gold - the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Spider-Man, and the X-Men are all very profitable franchises for their respective film companies. That's why we're getting a freaking ANT-MAN movie very soon - even just five years ago you would have been a laughingstock among your comic book nerd friends if you had predicted that. There are even plans for a Dr. Strange movie.

If Paramount's wise, they'll change the release date so it's not just one weekend after GotG - maybe the loss won't be as bad then.

[Candy Kappa]

Too bad about Robocop. I haven't seen the movie yet myself. But i loved the trailer, the Omnicorp website and commercials

[Bry]

TMNT will absolutely flop. Just compare it to the new RoboCop - it's a reboot that I personally don't think received a lot of marketing, and it came out right near The Lego Movie, which was a huuuuge mistake. According to Wikipedia it cost $130 million to make, but has made only $100 million. I think that's what you'd consider a box office 'flop'

It's actually worse than that - it's made about $100 million total in the worldwide box office, but only $33 million of that is from the domestic market. Studios generally get less pure profit from the international market than they do from the domestic (there are regional and local dealers and exhibitors that take their cut as well), so the number we're seeing isn't necessarily an accurate measurement of how much the studio is taking in. It's probably much less.

[Coola Yagami]

The funny part is people acting like tmnt is even supposed to be any kind of completion for GTOG. Dream on. IMO they should have released the movie at a time when a big blockbuster wasn't on the horizon. Between GOTG, Spider-Man 2 and their very own Transformers 4, this crapped-on movie really has no place to go.

[psychturtle]

I blame heavy turtle appearance edits.

[turtlefanforever]

The month before it has some good ones. Another step up movie which has a following another planes movie, another planet of the apes then in that month there is GOTG, sin city, the expendables 3, and the giver which was a popular book but I hated it.

[Galactus]

I think they won it the moment Michael Bay said this...


These turtles are from an alien race

[ZariusTwo]

I think they won it the moment Michael Bay said this...

Irony being most of the Guardians are legit aliens...:)

[Zulithe]

i'll probably see it like, twice. so yeah i think so

[Coola Yagami]

Same for me. Got more than enough action or comic fans to watch it with multiple times. I have to find someone to drag to see the tmnt one with me though.

[samxsteal]

TMNT will absolutely flop. Just compare it to the new RoboCop - it's a reboot that I personally don't think received a lot of marketing, and it came out right near The Lego Movie, which was a huuuuge mistake. According to Wikipedia it cost $130 million to make, but has made only $100 million. I think that's what you'd consider a box office 'flop'.

Right now anything with Marvel's name attached is gold - the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Spider-Man, and the X-Men are all very profitable franchises for their respective film companies. That's why we're getting a freaking ANT-MAN movie very soon - even just five years ago you would have been a laughingstock among your comic book nerd friends if you had predicted that. There are even plans for a Dr. Strange movie.

If Paramount's wise, they'll change the release date so it's not just one weekend after GotG - maybe the loss won't be as bad then.

it wasn't bad because opr marketing its bad because there is next to no ties to the original was was popular for specific reasons.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/8795-Robocop

[TheSkeletonMan939]

it wasn't bad because opr marketing its bad because there is next to no ties to the original was was popular for specific reasons.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/8795-Robocop

That too. No one wanted to see a RoboCop reboot made.

[Candy Kappa]

I wonder if Robocop would have done better being a sequel, in the vein of John Rambo and Die Hard 4.0.

[samxsteal]

That too. No one wanted to see a RoboCop reboot made.

i mean i think it would have been cool i think the should have kept it rated R and used more of the modern symbology

[samxsteal]

I wonder if Robocop would have done better being a sequel, in the vein of John Rambo and Die Hard 4.0.

Rambo Was great Die hard no so much. but i dont think it would have worked. The movie you talked about has had an average amount of movie made through out the years, where as Robocop had just those run of movie and nothing as recent as the others you listed

[bridgegrn]

I feel like the Turtles need something big to get some decent buzz going around it. Not only was the GOTG trailer fun and interesting but it's a Marvel movie. Marvel films are pretty much all big event movies now and considering one of the cool aspects is the fact that they all tie in to each other in one way or another GOTG has a significant edge over TMNT. I feel like we'll get a TMNT trailer very soon, or some kind of official release.

[Cure]

Whoooooo caaaaaaaares. I don't see why everything has to be a competition between non-participants. I'll watch both and be content.

[Candy Kappa]

I donno maybe, the third Rambo movie was in 88 and the third Die Hard was in 95, it's not too far off as the third Robocpo movie from 93. Although, the Robocop sequels aren't that well known in the general audience compared to the other franchises.

[bridgegrn]

Whoooooo caaaaaaaares. I don't see why everything has to be a competition between non-participants. I'll watch both and be content.

Obviously a few people care.

[Cure]

Yeah, no sh*t. Figure of speech, hence the period instead of a question mark.

[samxsteal]

Whoooooo caaaaaaaares. I don't see why everything has to be a competition between non-participants. I'll watch both and be content.

this is true for me as well

[Warhorse]

I feel like the Turtles need something big to get some decent buzz going around it. Not only was the GOTG trailer fun and interesting but it's a Marvel movie. Marvel films are pretty much all big event movies now and considering one of the cool aspects is the fact that they all tie in to each other in one way or another GOTG has a significant edge over TMNT. I feel like we'll get a TMNT trailer very soon, or some kind of official release.

Only big buzz it could get now is if it were Rated R, but we know that's not going to happen.

[samxsteal]

I donno maybe, the third Rambo movie was in 88 and the third Die Hard was in 95, it's not too far off as the third Robocpo movie from 93. Although, the Robocop sequels aren't that well known in the general audience compared to the other franchises.

true i thought the third robocop was earlier though your right not many know or care about the sequels. one common theme here though is that fact that they were all rated R and stayed Rated R correct me if im wrong but the robocop movies known for the violence and gore turned into a p13 robot fighting movie

[TMNTChris1980]

I remember when the original came out in 90, there was a ton of commercials for it. Before that, the teaser poster just had the 4 turtle heads coming out of the sewer. This made me soooo rabid to see the turtles.

You would think they would do the same thing for kids today. They should do a parody poster of the 2014 turtles, like the 90's poster. At the age of 10 seeing that makes you feel like you're going to see a movie for adults (NO, not that kind of movie).

But I digress, if GotG shows adds during Sat. morning cartoons, done. Kids will be begging to see that instead.

[Shark_Blade]

I'll watch it for the raccoon with machine gun, but overall I'm more interested in TMNT 2014. :tcool:

[Bossa Nova]

I dunno. As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Guardians of the Galaxy (as I'm sure most average joe's don't either), I can't say the trailer particularly struck my fancy. The concept itself of five oddballs with their kind of histories forming together into some kind of alliance is pretty interesting, but I pretty much lost interest after seeing the raccoon.

[Candy Kappa]

true i thought the third robocop was earlier though your right not many know or care about the sequels. one common theme here though is that fact that they were all rated R and stayed Rated R correct me if im wrong but the robocop movies known for the violence and gore turned into a p13 robot fighting movie

Yeah, making the remake a pg-13 was a real disservice, most people remembers the original for its gore and not it's intellectual social commentary, which is kinda sad but understandable.

I haven't seen the remake due to busy schedule, but by the trailers I think the way Murphy becomes Robocop was way more gruesome then the original. Sure the gunfire execution was horrible and gory to watch, but at least Murphy died. The remake Murphy survived with quite the disability with his burns. And the interesting parts as keeping his human hand and actually seeing his family in more then just flashbacks.

But, I can imagine it suffers in the action gore department as The Total Recall remake.

[turtlefanforever]

I dunno. As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Guardians of the Galaxy (as I'm sure most average joe's don't either), I can't say the trailer particularly struck my fancy. The concept itself of five oddballs with their kind of histories forming together into some kind of alliance is pretty interesting, but I pretty much lost interest after seeing the raccoon.

If anything the raccoon makes it more interesting especially when you know eho it is! and it has a top cast. John C. Riley who has terrific range. Bradley cooper, Batista! Which you gotta think has a lot of the WWE crowd already on board, vin diesel, list goes on and on. The trailer got me interested.

[TrickOrTreater]

I dunno. As someone who knows absolutely nothing about Guardians of the Galaxy (as I'm sure most average joe's don't either), I can't say the trailer particularly struck my fancy. The concept itself of five oddballs with their kind of histories forming together into some kind of alliance is pretty interesting, but I pretty much lost interest after seeing the raccoon.

I know/knew absolutely nothing about the GotG, and I've been an avid comic book reader for the majority of my teens and adulthood.

The trailer still got me super excited and now it's a must see movie.

[chrisdude]

Perhaps trailers are more important than I imagined. If the vast majority of people are unfamiliar with Guardians of the Galaxy, and this trailer has gotten them so pumped by only showing the characters, a good trailer for a well-known property like TMNT could do wonders.

I mean, what if the turtles trailer was just as good?

(Honestly, I don't even know what a "good" trailer is, anymore, after mere character introductions have set the internet ablaze.)

[Warboss74]

Perhaps trailers are more important than I imagined. If the vast majority of people are unfamiliar with Guardians of the Galaxy, and this trailer has gotten them so pumped by only showing the characters, a good trailer for a well-known property like TMNT could do wonders.

I mean, what if the turtles trailer was just as good?

(Honestly, I don't even know what a "good" trailer is, anymore, after mere character introductions have set the internet ablaze.)

I think it's a combination of things with the GOTG trailer.

1) The unfamiliarity with the characters. The weirdness factor of that team especially seeing Rocket Raccoon firing a machine gun atop Groot. I think it captures the audience similar to what TMNT did when people first saw it.

2) It seems to have it's tongue planted firmly in cheek with the characters adds charm. (The scenes mentioning Quill's superhero alias Star Lord)

3) Between the capture of Star Lord in the temple at the beginning to the montage with "Hooked on a Feeling" playing over it at the end, it's selling itself as a ridiculously fun time. I imagine there's still going to be a lot of heavy stuff seeing as how important this is going to be to Avengers 3 when Thanos appears as the main villain.

As a trailer there isn't much there in terms of story unless you're familiar with the franchise, I think it delivers on capturing the audience's interest for these unfamiliar characters as well as embracing the ridiculousness of it all.

[hitmonkey]

Perhaps trailers are more important than I imagined. If the vast majority of people are unfamiliar with Guardians of the Galaxy, and this trailer has gotten them so pumped by only showing the characters, a good trailer for a well-known property like TMNT could do wonders.

I mean, what if the turtles trailer was just as good?

(Honestly, I don't even know what a "good" trailer is, anymore, after mere character introductions have set the internet ablaze.)

Trailers are everything. You can talk about your movies all you want, show as many stills online as you can, but that stuff won't make one fraction of the sale that a trailer will. They will ultimately make or break a film's initial success. If a movie has an amazing trailer but then sucks, then it'll have a great opening weekend and then drastically drop off. If it has a great trailer and delivers the goods, then you have Iron Man.

[snooz]

The posturing on this forum by all of the people who already hate this movie is laughable. We get it, your knowledge reigns supreme over all, and you have decided that this movie has no chance to be good in any way. Perhaps that will turn out to be true, but the fact remains that you only have an opinion based on fairly limited knowledge.

So of the movies that I see people trashing on here (Man of Steel?!) just make me scratch my head. If this movie turns out to be as good as Green Lantern (which most of you also seem to hate), I will be very satisfied. There is still so much unknown about this movie.. I will wait to see it. It seems to me like some people need to lower their standards for what they expect from a TMNT movie. It won't have any implication on your health, family life or financial well-being, so maybe just accept it as entertainment. If you can relax a bit and let it entertain you, even if it isn't literally the greatest movie ever made, it can still be enjoyable.

The bottom line is that even asking the question "has GOTG already won August" is far beyond ridiculous. I feel confident that if I polled 500 random people on the street and asked them for their thoughts on these two upcoming movies, most people would know nothing about either of them. If I asked 500 random people, in general have you ever heard of GOTG and TMNT? I think the score would be about 497 for TMNT to maybe 50 for GOTG. So there are likely a huge number of people who saw the GOTG teaser and really don't know what it is, other than a movie.

No one has won August, 95% of people haven't considered anything they'll be doing in August, let alone which of TMNT or GOTG they will be going to see in theatres.

[TrickOrTreater]

The posturing on this forum by all of the people who already hate this movie is laughable. We get it, your knowledge reigns supreme over all, and you have decided that this movie has no chance to be good in any way. Perhaps that will turn out to be true, but the fact remains that you only have an opinion based on fairly limited knowledge.

So of the movies that I see people trashing on here (Man of Steel?!) just make me scratch my head. If this movie turns out to be as good as Green Lantern (which most of you also seem to hate), I will be very satisfied. There is still so much unknown about this movie.. I will wait to see it. It seems to me like some people need to lower their standards for what they expect from a TMNT movie. It won't have any implication on your health, family life or financial well-being, so maybe just accept it as entertainment. If you can relax a bit and let it entertain you, even if it isn't literally the greatest movie ever made, it can still be enjoyable.

The bottom line is that even asking the question "has GOTG already won August" is far beyond ridiculous. I feel confident that if I polled 500 random people on the street and asked them for their thoughts on these two upcoming movies, most people would know nothing about either of them. If I asked 500 random people, in general have you ever heard of GOTG and TMNT? I think the score would be about 497 for TMNT to maybe 50 for GOTG. So there are likely a huge number of people who saw the GOTG teaser and really don't know what it is, other than a movie.

No one has won August, 95% of people haven't considered anything they'll be doing in August, let alone which of TMNT or GOTG they will be going to see in theatres.

So many fallacies in this post I'm not even sure where to start.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

We get it, your knowledge reigns supreme over all, and you have decided that this movie has no chance to be good in any way. Perhaps that will turn out to be true, but the fact remains that you only have an opinion based on fairly limited knowledge.

Okay, you're right. We pretty much have nothing on what this movie will be. But the fact that Paramount isn't promoting this at all (our first look at the turtles was though a HALLOWEEN COSTUME, for God's sake!) isn't boosting our confidence that it will be any good. Plus the tidbits we have are very polarizing to longtime fans: the Foot Clan as some sorta military thing, Vernon having a big role, the initial rumor that the turtles would be aliens (that isn't true anymore, thank God), etc. Even if Ninja Turtles is the greatest film in cinematic history, it doesn't sound like it'll be a good TMNT movie, per se.

If this movie turns out to be as good as Green Lantern

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=79570&d=1334877547

I feel confident that if I polled 500 random people on the street and asked them for their thoughts on these two upcoming movies, most people would know nothing about either of them.

You know what, you go on right ahead and do that in one or two weeks. By then lots of people will know about GotG because the trailer came out, and plus there are a lot more people keeping themselves updated on Marvel movies than TMNT movies.

I think the score would be about 497 for TMNT to maybe 50 for GOTG. So there are likely a huge number of people who saw the GOTG teaser and really don't know what it is, other than a movie.

It has nothing to do with whether anyone's heard of the franchise. Robocop did terribly at the Box Office. Everyone's heard of Robocop. But no Marvel Cinematic movie has done poorly at the box office - even Thor and Iron Man! What non-comic fan had heard of those guys before their movies came out? Everyone will see GotG because the Marvel logo was at the beginning of the trailer.

No one has won August

Lots of movie studios disagree with you. Release dates for films change all the time in order for their films not to release near other anticipated box-office hits. They're always wary that one film will "win" money over another.

[turtlefanforever]

'Dumb and dumber to' is planning on releasing its movie sooner, so when that is moved up to, will have a big effect.

[TrickOrTreater]

Okay, you're right. We pretty much have nothing on what this movie will be. But the fact that Paramount isn't promoting this at all (our first look at the turtles was though a HALLOWEEN COSTUME, for God's sake!) isn't boosting our confidence that it will be any good. Plus the tidbits we have are very polarizing to longtime fans: the Foot Clan as some sorta military thing, Vernon having a big role, the initial rumor that the turtles would be aliens (that isn't true anymore, thank God), etc. Even if Ninja Turtles is the greatest film in cinematic history, it doesn't sound like it'll be a good TMNT movie, per se.

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You know what, you go on right ahead and do that in one or two weeks. By then lots of people will know about GotG because the trailer came out, and plus there are a lot more people keeping themselves updated on Marvel movies than TMNT movies.

It has nothing to do with whether anyone's heard of the franchise. Robocop did terribly at the Box Office. Everyone's heard of Robocop. But no Marvel Cinematic movie has done poorly at the box office - even Thor and Iron Man! What non-comic fan had heard of those guys before their movies came out? Everyone will see GotG because the Marvel logo was at the beginning of the trailer.

Lots of movie studios disagree with you. Release dates for films change all the time in order for their films not to release near other anticipated box-office hits. They're always wary that one film will "win" money over another.

Yep.

The whole "nobody's heard of GotG/knows what it is" argument goes right out the window when you say "Iron Man."

Nobody save for comic book fans knew who Iron Man was and now, thanks to a creative team who gave a damn and respected the source material, a studio willing to put the effort and money behind the project, and a fantastic cast of actors, Iron Man is a household name.

And that was BEFORE all the Avengers hype. They managed to make Iron Man HUGE based on nothing but great trailers and fantastic word of mouth.

GotG has an equal if not BETTER chance than Iron Man did. Now because Marvel Studios is a proven brand with quality product and a lot, A LOT, of good faith and hype behind it.

I'm not really a betting man, but gun to my head? I think it's going to do great. Maybe not Avengers numbers but then it really doesn't need to do those types of numbers.

[Warboss74]

Yep.

The whole "nobody's heard of GotG/knows what it is" argument goes right out the window when you say "Iron Man."

Nobody save for comic book fans knew who Iron Man was and now, thanks to a creative team who gave a damn and respected the source material, a studio willing to put the effort and money behind the project, and a fantastic cast of actors, Iron Man is a household name.

And that was BEFORE all the Avengers hype. They managed to make Iron Man HUGE based on nothing but great trailers and fantastic word of mouth.

GotG has an equal if not BETTER chance than Iron Man did. Now because Marvel Studios is a proven brand with quality product and a lot, A LOT, of good faith and hype behind it.

I'm not really a betting man, but gun to my head? I think it's going to do great. Maybe not Avengers numbers but then it really doesn't need to do those types of numbers.

I don't think Iron Man was as obscure a character as you're trying to make him out to be. I knew who Iron Man was at the time, and I wasn't into comics at all at the time. My experience with Iron Man was through his cartoon in the mid-90s. It's a far different situation with Gaurdians of the Galaxy in terms of name recognition at the time the came out. If Iron Man was a B-list character at the time, GotG are barely D-list characters. This film, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange/Black Panther wouldn't be possible without the brand recognition Marvel Studies has built up with it's Cinematic Universe.

[TrickOrTreater]

This film, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange/Black Panther wouldn't be possible without the brand recognition Marvel Studies has built up with it's Cinematic Universe.

Yes. Which is the point I made here:

GotG has an equal if not BETTER chance than Iron Man did. Now because Marvel Studios is a proven brand with quality product and a lot, A LOT, of good faith and hype behind it.

[Warboss74]

My point is I don't think you can say Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy are on the same name recognition list at the time their respective movies came out which is what you imply by trying to refute his nobody knows what Guardians of the Galaxy is with the claim that nobody knew who Iron Man was at the time.

[TrickOrTreater]

My point is I don't think you can say Iron Man and Guardians of the Galaxy are on the same name recognition list at the time their respective movies came out which is what you imply by trying to refute his nobody knows what Guardians of the Galaxy is with the claim that nobody knew who Iron Man was at the time.

Before the Iron Man movie, the general audiences did not know who Iron Man was.

Same as GotG.

It doesn't matter that Iron Man had a cartoon in the 90s for a while that you watched.

Vast majority of people that didn't read comic books or watch Saturday morning cartoons did not know who Iron Man was.

Now, he's a household name.

And Iron Man didn't have the brand power behind it that GotG currently has now.

So as of right now GotG has a better chance than Iron Man did previously because of Marvel's brand power.

[Donatello19]

Is is too late for them to change TMNT's release date?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Is is too late for them to change TMNT's release date?

No, I think there's still time. It's only February. But I think we'd have heard something by now if there were plans.

[TrickOrTreater]

Is is too late for them to change TMNT's release date?

Yes and no.

I'm not super aware of all the ins and outs of release date goings on, but just at face value, boy would it look bad for them.

Several release date changes already and then another one after their main competition in August just released a very well received, fantastic trailer?

It'd be embarrassing.

They probably could but the only place I'd think of that they'd put it is February, which is where a lot of movies go to die.

[Warboss74]

Before the Iron Man movie, the general audiences did not know who Iron Man was.

Same as GotG.

It doesn't matter that Iron Man had a cartoon in the 90s for a while that you watched.

Vast majority of people that didn't read comic books or watch Saturday morning cartoons did not know who Iron Man was.

Now, he's a household name.

And Iron Man didn't have the brand power behind it that GotG currently has now.

So as of right now GotG has a better chance than Iron Man did previously because of Marvel's brand power.
I just don't think that's the case with Iron Man, but whatever.

[chrisdude]

Before the Iron Man movie, the general audiences did not know who Iron Man was.

Same as GotG.

It doesn't matter that Iron Man had a cartoon in the 90s for a while that you watched.

Vast majority of people that didn't read comic books or watch Saturday morning cartoons did not know who Iron Man was.

Now, he's a household name.

And Iron Man didn't have the brand power behind it that GotG currently has now.

So as of right now GotG has a better chance than Iron Man did previously because of Marvel's brand power.If you're gonna disregard cartoons, we may as well stop here. Darned near everything would be on an even playing field.

[turtlefanforever]

Dumb and dumber to finished filming well in advance and they are pushing for an earlier release so in regards to this film they might be able to push it back again but it likely would have been announced by now.

[Slade]

Before the Iron Man movie, the general audiences did not know who Iron Man was.

Same as GotG.

It doesn't matter that Iron Man had a cartoon in the 90s for a while that you watched.

Vast majority of people that didn't read comic books or watch Saturday morning cartoons did not know who Iron Man was.

Now, he's a household name.

And Iron Man didn't have the brand power behind it that GotG currently has now.

So as of right now GotG has a better chance than Iron Man did previously because of Marvel's brand power.

While he wasn't as popular as he is today, I think he was more known than you are saying.

[chrisdude]

I wouldn't want a movie this close to anything with such a similar demographic, regardless of how successful I expected it to be. How much is yet to be seen, but really, this is bad for both movies...

[Candy Kappa]

I think most people was aware of Iron Man, just not enough to read the comics if they didn't already. He may not be as iconic and recognizable as Captain America, Wonder Woman or Wolverine, but still one of those heroes people have seen somewhere probably thanks to the cartoon series or other Avengers material.

GotG, will ride on the Marvel Studios name and the sheer enthusiasm the marketing have been, with the teaser, intro videos, trailer and the very clever poster with the " you're welcome " written on it. And I think that's enough to get people curios to see the movie, it's been a while since we've had a space opera of this caliber, a science fantasy movie. And with the grit and the grim, I think many wants something that is both clever and fun to watch. Something that isn't insultingly lowbrow but still can make a whole audience laugh.

And judging by the promotions and trailers, that is what we wil get from Guardians... Hopefully.

[Coola Yagami]

The posturing on this forum by all of the people who already hate this movie is laughable. We get it, your knowledge reigns supreme over all, and you have decided that this movie has no chance to be good in any way. Perhaps that will turn out to be true, but the fact remains that you only have an opinion based on fairly limited knowledge.

So of the movies that I see people trashing on here (Man of Steel?!) just make me scratch my head. If this movie turns out to be as good as Green Lantern (which most of you also seem to hate), I will be very satisfied. There is still so much unknown about this movie.. I will wait to see it. It seems to me like some people need to lower their standards for what they expect from a TMNT movie. It won't have any implication on your health, family life or financial well-being, so maybe just accept it as entertainment. If you can relax a bit and let it entertain you, even if it isn't literally the greatest movie ever made, it can still be enjoyable.

The bottom line is that even asking the question "has GOTG already won August" is far beyond ridiculous. I feel confident that if I polled 500 random people on the street and asked them for their thoughts on these two upcoming movies, most people would know nothing about either of them. If I asked 500 random people, in general have you ever heard of GOTG and TMNT? I think the score would be about 497 for TMNT to maybe 50 for GOTG. So there are likely a huge number of people who saw the GOTG teaser and really don't know what it is, other than a movie.

No one has won August, 95% of people haven't considered anything they'll be doing in August, let alone which of TMNT or GOTG they will be going to see in theatres.

Rofl. Two problems with that. First most of those 500 people will be like 'there's a tmnt movie coming out? What?' Second most of those people will get excited until you show them the pics. Then they'll be like 'wtf is that crap.'

[samxsteal]

Rofl. Two problems with that. First most of those 500 people will be like 'there's a tmnt movie coming out? What?' Second most of those people will get excited until you show them the pics. Then they'll be like 'wtf is that crap.'

or alot of them will think they look awesome like the majority of the internet lol

[Jester]

or alot of them will think they look awesome like the majority of the internet lol
Majority? Isn't it pretty evenly split?

[Coola Yagami]

or alot of them will think they look awesome like the majority of the internet lol

That's because most of them assume they'll only wear that sometimes or maybe just the final battle scene. Wait til they see that's their new standard look and they never use the classic look throughout the movie.

They look fine as variants. But not as their permanent look. Again I ask why is mikey the only one not dressed for battle?

[chrisdude]

To be honest, I think the negative buzz about the designs pretty much began and ended with the Mikey costume. The first shot of those figures seemed to cause a 180.

[samxsteal]

Majority? Isn't it pretty evenly split?
Nope not all over the internet on here yes everywhere else nope most love them.
That's because most of them assume they'll only wear that sometimes or maybe just the final battle scene. Wait til they see that's their new standard look and they never use the classic look throughout the movie.

They look fine as variants. But not as their permanent look. Again I ask why is mikey the only one not dressed for battle?Nope this is not the case Most people saw the Maquette and the poster and believed that was there design added to the fact that the figures release look the same and you have a consensus was overall very positive beside a couple grips and jokes but that seem very few and far between on every other website this site seem overwhelmingly negative

To be honest, I think the negative buzz about the designs pretty much began and ended with the Mikey costume. The first shot of those figures seemed to cause a 180.

This is pretty much true all around for the majority of the internet.

[NinjaPug]

Nope not all over the internet on here yes everywhere else nope most love them.
Nope this is not the case Most people saw the Maquette and the poster and believed that was there design added to the fact that the figures release look the same and you have a consensus was overall very positive beside a couple grips and jokes but that seem very few and far between on every other website this site seem overwhelmingly negative



This is pretty much true all around for the majority of the internet.

I think we're using different internets

[Xav]

one common theme here though is that fact that they were all rated R and stayed Rated R correct me if im wrong but the robocop movies known for the violence and gore turned into a p13 robot fighting movieRobocop 3 was PG-13 rated.

[Jester]

Nope not all over the internet on here yes everywhere else nope most love them.

This is pretty much true all around for the majority of the internet.
Where exactly is your "all over the internet" because the 1st few postings I found about them had quite a few "These suck!" responses....

[chrisdude]

I present to you all, the opinions of the internet!

Twitter search: new ninja turtles movie

https://twitter.com/search?q=new%20ninja%20turtles%20movie&src=typd&f=realtime

Shockingly easy to find, actually.

[TrickOrTreater]

To be honest, I think the negative buzz about the designs pretty much began and ended with the Mikey costume. The first shot of those figures seemed to cause a 180.

Until you show them that poster and then boom. Back to "that's hideous" again.

[Jester]

I present to you all, the opinions of the internet!

Twitter search: new ninja turtles movie

https://twitter.com/search?q=new%20ninja%20turtles%20movie&src=typd&f=realtime

Shockingly easy to find, actually.

Did you actually read those before you posted them?

I see your random tweets and I'll raise you these:
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31/1909238_529763418612_992721588_o.jpg

[chrisdude]

Did you actually read those before you posted them?

I see your random tweets and I'll raise you these:
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31/1909238_529763418612_992721588_o.jpg"Random" is why it counts. I could choose comments and paint any picture I wanted.

[Jester]

I'm just saying some of those tweets were things like ebay auctions...my sampling is fairly random as well.

[chrisdude]

Oh yeah. Only a fraction of the tweets are relevant. It's just an easy way to see what people are thinking.

[samxsteal]

Robocop 3 was PG-13 rated.

wow the more you know lol. probably one cause for it failing thought at least in the least

[madyankees]

I don know about Guardians of the Galaxy winning Aug but I do know "ah........ hooked on a feeling":D

And I still have no idea what gotg is about but it sure looks interesting.

[MajorViolence]

"Random" is why it counts. I could choose comments and paint any picture I wanted.

Here's a few of the latest tweets in order, only removing tweets that aren't simply links to articles or talking about other TMNT movies.

http://i.imgur.com/0pU4lMt.jpg

I'd say "mixed reaction" is a pretty fair assessment.

[chrisdude]

Here's a few of the latest tweets in order, only removing tweets that aren't simply links to articles or talking about other TMNT movies.

http://i.imgur.com/0pU4lMt.jpg

I'd say "mixed reaction" is a pretty fair assessment.I've run such searches countless times. Some don't like the look, but people are excited just to find out it's happening. And people really seem to like Alan Ritchson...

[CyberCubed]

Reading those casuals twitter posts about the movie makes me queasy. I wouldn't expect casuals to have good tastes though but I am glad to see the opinion is mixed.

I doubt any of the casuals excited for the movie have followed the franchise in years. Bet they haven't watched anything turtles since they were 10 and don't follow any of the comics or cartoons.

Because that's what casuals do, they act all casual about things but they really have no interest of the franchise. Casuals.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Reading those casuals twitter posts about the movie makes me queasy. I wouldn't expect casuals to have good tastes though but I am glad to see the opinion is mixed.

I doubt any of the casuals excited for the movie have followed the franchise in years. Bet they haven't watched anything turtles since they were 10 and don't follow any of the comics or cartoons.

Because that's what casuals do, they act all casual about things but they really have no interest of the franchise. Casuals.

For God's sake. Just about every movie in a franchise is marketed to "casuals" because there aren't enough comic book nerds who'll see it to make a good enough profit. That's why the X-Men don't wear their suits in the films, why Captain America doesn't wear his traditional red-white-and-blue, and why Hawkeye doesn't wear his purple suit and mask - it all looks too "comic-booky". Normal people don't want to see a movie about guys in tights running around (at least, they did't used to; now they're all the rage).

In fact, I'd bet most of the people who go to comic book movies now are, by your definition, "casuals".

And besides, I'd say reaction to the new movie is pretty mixed on this board as well (leaning a lot towards the negative side, though). Dammit, I guess we all make you feel queasy too, CyberCubed.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Reading those casuals twitter posts about the movie makes me queasy. I wouldn't expect casuals to have good tastes though but I am glad to see the opinion is mixed.

I doubt any of the casuals excited for the movie have followed the franchise in years. Bet they haven't watched anything turtles since they were 10 and don't follow any of the comics or cartoons.

Because that's what casuals do, they act all casual about things but they really have no interest of the franchise. Casuals.

Yeah, because "Casuals" aren't actually invested in the franchise.:trolleye:

Seriously though, why do we put up with this guy?

[samxsteal]

Robocop 3 was PG-13 rated.

Yeah, because "Casuals" aren't actually invested in the franchise.:trolleye:

Seriously though, why do we put up with this guy?

Entertainment and laughs :tlol:

[MajorViolence]

So uh, how long has CyberCubed been on this "casuals" kick?

[ObiWanFan4life]

So uh, how long has CyberCubed been on this "casuals" kick?

Until he takes it too far and gets banned....We can only hope.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I present to you all, the opinions of the internet!

Twitter search: new ninja turtles movie

https://twitter.com/search?q=new%20ninja%20turtles%20movie&src=typd&f=realtime

Shockingly easy to find, actually.

It's sad how many of them are basically just "What?! There's a new TMNT movie coming out?!"

Which means they had no clue until a toy fair that there was one even in the works. Again, that's horrible marketing. :(

It also means the ones who are exciting by the news haven't seen anything or gotten any info to base excitement on other than "I always liked TMNT, so hurray for new movie."

Can't 100% tell what opinion is yet. :(

[CyberCubed]

So uh, how long has CyberCubed been on this "casuals" kick?

Ever since Powder brought the term to the fandom I suppose. 2012, I guess?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

That's why the X-Men don't wear their suits in the films

Actually, it's because the X-Men were launched before any studio had any clue whether or not the general public would go see a comic book movie that was too "comic booky" in appearance. Marvel Studios pretty much exploded that as a myth with more colorful true-to-books appearances, though. You can even see how X-Men First Class moved towards the classic look bringing yellow into the costumes, Wolverine's classic mask and a brown/yellow influence was in the original ending of The Wolverine, and the X-Men are leaning more towards a bit of color with Days of Future Past while still keeping the general thematic tone of the movies already established (though with the timeline getting altered, Apocalypse could go any direction).

why Captain America doesn't wear his traditional red-white-and-blue

Wha?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fyB13HZknf8/T7ExgCpFEvI/AAAAAAAABeI/3QUnNR1zUxA/s1600/cap3.jpg



and why Hawkeye doesn't wear his purple suit and mask
This one's true, though they updated his look in the comics prior to him appearing in Thor.


(Edit, there's a smaller pic of Cap so it's not ENORMOUS)

[samxsteal]

This one's true, though they updated his look in the comics prior to him appearing in Thor.



His looks is from and updated comic book dont know if that is what you are meaning or not just throwing it out there

[SwiftNinjaFox]

His looks is from and updated comic book dont know if that is what you are meaning or not just throwing it out there

Yep, that's what I was referring to. His film look was from The Ultimates which came out after Ultimate Spider-Man and Ultimate X-Men. Essentially the Avengers in the Ultimate universe (because Bendis noted "they were called the Avengers, but weren't really formed to avenge anything").

Classic 616 Hawkeye has kept the purple look, but Ultimate Hawkeye was the basis for the movie version.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

X-Men: First Class used color because it was safe to. X-Men was already a super successful franchise.

And I sort of forgot Cap wore that in The Avengers (I really didn't like that movie), but it doesn't look like he'll be wearing it in Winter Soldier. Oh well.

And I don't think that Wolverine alternate ending was ever scheduled to be in the movie. Just something they did for fun or for the special features. I dunno.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

X-Men: First Class used color because it was safe to. X-Men was already a super successful franchise.

And I sort of forgot Cap wore that in The Avengers (I really didn't like that movie), but it doesn't look like he'll be wearing it in Winter Soldier. Oh well.

And I don't think that Wolverine alternate ending was ever scheduled to be in the movie. Just something they did for fun or for the special features. I dunno.

It's just speculation on my part, but I'm convinced First Class felt safe to work the color in because Marvel was having success with full blown comic bookyness with Iron Man and they had Thor underway with the same vibe and colorful costumes. Don't forget that while Marvel Studios isn't involved, Marvel does still have some consultation with Fox and Sony on their IPs.

The dark suit in Winter Soldier is intentional. It's thematic to the mood and what's going on in the film, as well as ties in to Rogers' problems with what he's doing. By end of the film or Avengers 2, it'll be stars and stripes.

Winter Soldier is based off his costume from Steve Rogers: Agent of Shield. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Steve_Rogers_Super_Soldier.jpg

As for Wolverine...
It was actually the original ending. They weren't sure what costume he'd wear in Days of Future Past, so they decided not to use it. But if you watch the theatrical release, when he's talking to Mariko at the end, a guy walks over to Yumiko and hands her the box with the costume by the plane. Then inside the plane.....no box. It was a cool way to work it in if it was a gift from Mariko since the design of the mask did have a bit of the old samurai demon mask feel to it. ;)

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I guess you know more about comic books than I do. Too bad that Wolverine scene had to be cut. Even if he wasn't going to end up wearing it, it would have been a fun easter egg.

[Cure]

Ever since Powder brought the term to the fandom I suppose. 2012, I guess?

You keep trying to throw Powder under the bus, but he's not nearly as bad as you have gotten.

[TrickOrTreater]

It's sad how many of them are basically just "What?! There's a new TMNT movie coming out?!"

Which means they had no clue until a toy fair that there was one even in the works. Again, that's horrible marketing. :(

It also means the ones who are exciting by the news haven't seen anything or gotten any info to base excitement on other than "I always liked TMNT, so hurray for new movie."

Can't 100% tell what opinion is yet. :(

Yep.

Seasons chaaange, time passes byyyy...as the weeks become the months become the yeeeaaarrss.

[Powder]

You keep trying to throw Powder under the bus, but he's not nearly as bad as you have gotten.

Not to mention that I used the word in an almost entirely different context...

[samxsteal]

Not to mention that I used the word in an almost entirely different context...

He probably just doesn't understand common logic lol

[samxsteal]

It's just speculation on my part, but I'm convinced First Class felt safe to work the color in because Marvel was having success with full blown comic bookyness with Iron Man and they had Thor underway with the same vibe and colorful costumes. Don't forget that while Marvel Studios isn't involved, Marvel does still have some consultation with Fox and Sony on their IPs.

The dark suit in Winter Soldier is intentional. It's thematic to the mood and what's going on in the film, as well as ties in to Rogers' problems with what he's doing. By end of the film or Avengers 2, it'll be stars and stripes.

Winter Soldier is based off his costume from Steve Rogers: Agent of Shield. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Steve_Rogers_Super_Soldier.jpg

As for Wolverine...
It was actually the original ending. They weren't sure what costume he'd wear in Days of Future Past, so they decided not to use it. But if you watch the theatrical release, when he's talking to Mariko at the end, a guy walks over to Yumiko and hands her the box with the costume by the plane. Then inside the plane.....no box. It was a cool way to work it in if it was a gift from Mariko since the design of the mask did have a bit of the old samurai demon mask feel to it. ;)
I would have to agree X-men are certainly branching out and kep more comicbook esque looks because the comic book trend to stick with the source.

Also love his bad ass black suit think its very modern and even though hes a super hero and black suit for covert missions would make since.

I really wish they would have kept that in the movie as well such a good nod to the Comic, but i do like his look in the new xmen lol kinda kick ass and comic-Y while not such extreme colors.

[Coola Yagami]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fyB13HZknf8/T7ExgCpFEvI/AAAAAAAABeI/3QUnNR1zUxA/s1600/cap3.jpg






The deal is though... they're not really wearing tights. Cap America is wearing some kind of star spangled stylized uniform. Hawkeye and Black Widow look believable as secret agents. Batman is basically wearing armor. Even Spider-Man's outfit, though cartoonish, still looks extra padded, slightly armorized, stylized what-have-you. They're not exactly running around in spandex halloween costume tights.

[METALHEAD]

I wish I got it. I don't get it. I watched the trailer. It looked like fun. But I don't know what clicked with everyone. It didn't even show what the story is about.
a racoon with an effin' machine gun. 'nuff said.

[Leo656]

:lol: Yeah right?

I'm betting they do a big chunk of business opening week just for the "WTF Factor", people curious to see what it's all about. Then if it's actually a good movie, Bam, tons of repeat business. I'm expecting them to do well.

I may or may not go see GotG. I kind of doubt it, I didn't get to see Wolverine, Thor 2 or Iron Man 3 in theaters so I doubt I'll bother with GotG, but I bet a lot of people will. More than TMNT? We'll see which one can go the distance. Late summer season, it'll be entirely based on which is the stronger-quality film. Lots of people will see TMNT out of brand loyalty, but if it's a weak movie overall, or alienates too many of the purists, it will have a big drop-off after its first week.

[METALHEAD]

:roll:

It's not about new fans or impatience or whatever ******** you want to call it.

It's about marketing. Specifically marketing for big budget comic book type movies.

Movies like TMNT.

Movies like this get promo material sometimes a year to years in advance. That's usual a teaser poster or character teaser images. TMNT hasn't gotten that.

A year to about 6 months from release it gets a teaser trailer. TMNT hasn't gotten that.

Any of it. It's 5 months before release and we only just now know what the stars of the freaking movie look like because of an accidental leak of a children's halloween costume, slightly blurry leaked shots of some production maquettes, a leaked shot of a merchandise promo image and some action figures.

THAT'S UNUSUAL.


my gf think its a good thing they hadn't shown it. they're just waiting for the right moment to jazz everyone up with excitment for the new tmnt movie.
she and i are very optimistic about the whole thing.

[TrickOrTreater]

my gf think its a good thing they hadn't shown it. they're just waiting for the right moment to jazz everyone up with excitment for the new tmnt movie.
she and i are very optimistic about the whole thing.

People are currently REALLY excited about the Godzilla movie.

People were REALLY excited about the Godzilla movie back in July during SDCC with the Godzilla movie's huge Godzilla exhibit/interactive amusement park style ride.

10 months before release.

Soooooooooooooooo...yeah.

[samxsteal]

my gf think its a good thing they hadn't shown it. they're just waiting for the right moment to jazz everyone up with excitment for the new tmnt movie.
she and i are very optimistic about the whole thing.

And thats what i think they are doing that but because "EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG" doesn't do that its wrong.

lol

[Leo656]

Waiting until the two-minute warning before they jump out and yell, "SURPRISE! Our movie isn't the drizzling sh*ts!" isn't a smart strategy regardless, my dude. :lol:

[samxsteal]

Waiting until the two-minute warning before they jump out and yell, "SURPRISE! Our movie isn't the drizzling sh*ts!" isn't a smart strategy regardless, my dude. :lol:

Two minute warning? dude 6 months left. 6 months :trolleye:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29

4 months

[slingtheory]

Two minute warning? dude 6 months left. 6 months :trolleye:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29

4 months

the difference between this film and avatar is that there are alot of people who expect it to be an utter disaster. they're not helping to change that opinion by

1.) not releasing anything official to persuade fans they might actually know what their doing.
and
2.) rushing to pull leaks from the net like they're ashamed of what they created.
everyday they lose an opportunity to try and win back some of their audience.

[TrickOrTreater]

Two minute warning? dude 6 months left. 6 months :trolleye:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29

4 months

Cameron, producer Jon Landau, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang, and Sigourney Weaver appeared at a panel, moderated by Tom Rothman, at the 2009 San Diego Comic-Con on July 23. Twenty-five minutes of footage was screened in Dolby 3D.

:lol:

5 months from release.

This couldn't have been funnier if I had planned it myself.

[samxsteal]

the difference between this film and avatar is that there are alot of people who expect it to be an utter disaster. they're not helping to change that opinion by

1.) not releasing anything official to persuade fans they might actually know what their doing.
and
2.) rushing to pull leaks from the net like they're ashamed of what they created.
everyday they lose an opportunity to try and win back some of their audience.

Like everyone had full 100% faith in Avatar before it was release. There were those who thought it was utter trash that's the problem with the internet you always have those people. People still think the movie was trash. Doesn't make them right and they can have their Opinion but there are those who love the turtle likes what we've seen Those who have seen it first hand have nothing but praise for it. That insight into what to expect.

DId they feel the Need they had to Shove it in people faces hey this is good looky. No they were patient and waited for the right time they felt comfertable with. Their movie took 10 year 10 freaking years to make and the marketed it for 4 MONTHS 5 if you include a BTS shown during comic con. If that was this movie forget about it Everyone's lost there **** over this movie because it wrapped in august of last year. just imagine seriously.

And you sure as well know that if anything was leaked for Avatar it would have been pulled and deleted. ANd if it was it would be made fun of Because when context is lacking anything can look ridiculous.



:lol:

5 months from release.

This couldn't have been funnier if I had planned it myself.
Comic con barely counts dude. Its pretty much a Behind closed doors event similar to what TMNT has already done anyway so if that doesn't count nether can this.

And point still Stands we have 5-6 moths left They can still market it accordingly and does not mean its Failed yet.

Edit going to bed be back tomorrow after work

[TrickOrTreater]

Comic con barely counts dude.

:lol:

And point still Stands we have 5-6 moths left They can still market it accordingly and does not mean its Failed yet.

Except now it's confirmed that they'll only have FOUR months.

With allllllll that wasted time previously.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

The deal is though... they're not really wearing tights. Cap America is wearing some kind of star spangled stylized uniform. Hawkeye and Black Widow look believable as secret agents. Batman is basically wearing armor. Even Spider-Man's outfit, though cartoonish, still looks extra padded, slightly armorized, stylized what-have-you. They're not exactly running around in spandex halloween costume tights.

Oh absolutely. The "actually naked painted skin without certain organs" look wouldn't translate to film, so of course it has to be modified and styled to look right on film, to look believable.

But there's no question that Marvel has proven that comic book style works just fine with a general audience and that your whole cast doesn't have to wear black leather or gray cloth to be accepted by mainstream audiences.

a racoon with an effin' machine gun. 'nuff said.

I still laugh when I think about the differences between studios.

DC: Wonder Woman is hard to translate to film. There's so much magic and mythology surrounding her that we have to get it just right to bring it to audiences and do her justice.
Marvel: Here's a space adventure with a gun toting raccoon and a talking tree!

I think Black Nerd Rants nailed it. Guardians of the Galaxy is a test to see if Marvel really can just legally print money. If Guardians of the Galaxy is a success, the door's open, anything is fair game.

[samxsteal]

:lol:



Except now it's confirmed that they'll only have FOUR months.

With allllllll that wasted time previously.

Avatar lol

And comic con doesn't count its just like how tmnt have been going screenings. And everyone who has sen it says they have seen it and they say its good -_^

[TrickOrTreater]

Avatar lol

And comic con doesn't count its just like how tmnt have been going screenings. And everyone who has sen it says they have seen it and they say its good -_^

Okay. Prove it.

[samxsteal]

Okay. Prove it.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/IBelieveInSpidey/news/?a=82123
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/IBelieveInSpidey/news/?a=82134

[TrickOrTreater]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/IBelieveInSpidey/news/?a=82123
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/IBelieveInSpidey/news/?a=82134

Those are set visits.

They'll say "it looks awesome!" no matter what.

You said "seen it." As in the movie? Who has seen the movie?

[samxsteal]

Those are set visits.

They'll say "it looks awesome!" no matter what.

You said "seen it." As in the movie? Who has seen the movie?

did the people During the Avatar screening see the whole movie? No they saw what 25 min of a 2 hr movie. that was a BEHIND THE SCENES look at the movie.

TMNT has Had set visit, Toy fairs, Movie fairs (for production companies )and so far everything shown was BTS and had NDA's so of-course We've not seen or heard everything about all of them. But all the leaks about how they look and those photo had to come from somewhere. Also Those who saw the 25 mins of film had signed NDA's as well, meaning they could not talk about them until a designated date.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

In my experience, it's better to keep your expectations low and be blown away and pleasantly surprised than to keep them very high and then the film not be able to meet them.

I probably like X-Men: First Class more because I went into it with such a low opinion and it was better than I was expecting.

I'm doing the same with TMNT simply based on a distrust of Hollywood and Michael Bay (ever since Cuba, man, I just can't trust that guy). I'm hoping the trailer makes me pleasantly surprised. :)

It did dawn on me...I wonder if Splinter is Yoshi's rat in this iteration. It just seems weird to me that Splinter is, I would assume, going to be so small while the turtles are freakin' 6 feet tall or more.

[CyberCubed]

I don't think Galaxy will be that successful. Most people hate sci-fi.

[Discogod]

I don't think Galaxy will be that successful. Most people hate sci-fi.

Yeah, that must be why all those Star Wars films flopped.:roll:

[NinjaPug]

Did I really just read that SDCC doesn't count when it comes to the marketing and promotion of a movie?

That might be the dumbest thing posted in this thread...which is saying something.

[TrickOrTreater]

Did I really just read that SDCC doesn't count when it comes to the marketing and promotion of a movie?

That might be the dumbest thing posted in this thread...which is saying something.

With your own two eyes.

With your own two eyes.

The lengths some people will go to to defend bad things just because could be counted as world records.

[samxsteal]

Did I really just read that SDCC doesn't count when it comes to the marketing and promotion of a movie?

That might be the dumbest thing posted in this thread...which is saying something.

It doesn't when it was an event that was Behind closed doors and people are not allowed to disclose any information signing NDAs. Then it doesn't count as marketing or it doesn't count in the case of pertaining the tmnt because they have had similar Behind closed door event for fans and press. the same as it was for Avatar so yes in this instance it does not count.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I don't think Galaxy will be that successful. Most people hate sci-fi.

It's a Marvel movie. Everyone's going to see a Marvel movie. Most people are not you, fortunately, and enjoy sci-fi for the most part.

[liugeaux]

I still laugh when I think about the differences between studios.

DC: Wonder Woman is hard to translate to film. There's so much magic and mythology surrounding her that we have to get it just right to bring it to audiences and do her justice.
Marvel: Here's a space adventure with a gun toting raccoon and a talking tree!

I think Black Nerd Rants nailed it. Guardians of the Galaxy is a test to see if Marvel really can just legally print money. If Guardians of the Galaxy is a success, the door's open, anything is fair game.

Exactly!!!!

The "Marvel" name has so much positive cache going for it right now, that someone had the balls to throw GOTG out there in a pitch meeting and a studio head said "**** it, why not?"

They gained this notoriety by making good movies. Even the bad Marvel films are pretty good (Iron Man 2). Their track record is so good that simply starting each GOTG trailer with a Marvel logo guarantees it will win Aug...hands down.

When it comes to DC the only positivity they have going for them is Batman. The DC name carries no weight with the "casuals". Green Lantern was horrid, and as good as Man of Steel was, it still didn't blow up as expected. Putting Batman in the next Superman movie was the best idea DC films has had in a long time.

[samxsteal]

It's a Marvel movie. Everyone's going to see a Marvel movie. Most people are not you, fortunately, and enjoy sci-fi for the most part.

SCI-FI is Probably the most common movie among fantasy. Plenty of people like SCI-FI and technically Thor could be considered SCI-FI

[samxsteal]

Exactly!!!!

The "Marvel" name has so much positive cache going for it right now, that someone had the balls to throw GOTG out there in a pitch meeting and a studio head said "**** it, why not?"

They gained this notoriety by making good movies. Even the bad Marvel films are pretty good (Iron Man 2). Their track record is so good that simply starting each GOTG trailer with a Marvel logo guarantees it will win Aug...hands down.

When it comes to DC the only positivity they have going for them is Batman. The DC name carries no weight with the "casuals". Green Lantern was horrid, and as good as Man of Steel was, it still didn't blow up as expected. Putting Batman in the next Superman movie was the best idea DC films has had in a long time.
Marvel has proven them selves. But A production company that Makes Commonly thought of as meh movies(transformers) make just as much money if not more for "sub-par" movies. Say what you will. Paramount and Platinum Dunes now how to market and make descent movies just like everyone else. Turtles is Widely popular Right knoe With tones of kid and there parents supporting the movie and Once parents realize their kids Favorite Show is being turned into a Live action movie, that they could also enjoy. That's Potentially a lot of people plus. Comic book movie nerds. Plus the trailer is releasing with one of the most anticipated Marvel movie reaching to tone of other potential viewers.

Im just saying it's about six in one and half a dozen in the other.

[NinjaPug]

It doesn't when it was an event that was Behind closed doors and people are not allowed to disclose any information signing NDAs. Then it doesn't count as marketing or it doesn't count in the case of pertaining the tmnt because they have had similar Behind closed door event for fans and press. the same as it was for Avatar so yes in this instance it does not count.

Oh, where to begin with this?

First, there were tons of reports from the Avatar screening immediately after SDCC. I don't know where you got that NDA nonsense. SDCC is where you go if you want to build buzz for your film. Avatar did that.

Second, are you really comparing the screening of the first 25 minutes of a film to images of Lego toys? Yeah, those toys really built some buzz for TMNT like the SDCC panel did for Avatar.

[chrisdude]

Marvel has proven them selves. But A production company that Makes Commonly thought of as meh movies(transformers) make just as much money if not more for "sub-par" movies. Say what you will. Paramount and Platinum Dunes now how to market and make descent movies just like everyone else. Turtles is Widely popular Right knoe With tones of kid and there parents supporting the movie and Once parents realize their kids Favorite Show is being turned into a Live action movie, that they could also enjoy. That's Potentially a lot of people plus. Comic book movie nerds. Plus the trailer is releasing with one of the most anticipated Marvel movie reaching to tone of other potential viewers.

Im just saying it's about six in one and half a dozen in the other.It is fair to point out that these guys, Michael Bay and Paramount, do put out what are some of the biggest movies outside of Marvel.

TMNT may be no match for the Marvel machine, but there's not much better competition you could have. And TMNT probably has an edge on kids (and their families), considering most won't be familiar with Guardians, or care about a studio logo. I still say Guardians needs to put a popular Marvel character in their promotions, or do something obvious in Cap 2, so kids see this is all connected. I don't know if they'd pick up on that "collector" thing...

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I still say Guardians needs to put a popular Marvel character in their promotions

No. That'd ruin the whole point.

[samxsteal]

Oh, where to begin with this?

First, there were tons of reports from the Avatar screening immediately after SDCC. I don't know where you got that NDA nonsense. SDCC is where you go if you want to build buzz for your film. Avatar did that.

Second, are you really comparing the screening of the first 25 minutes of a film to images of Lego toys? Yeah, those toys really built some buzz for TMNT like the SDCC panel did for Avatar.
I'm not just talking about keep and the toys I'm taking about the set visit and press screenings, i while bunch of people got to go check out bts stuff for Tmnt. And they have nothing but positive feedback. That what I'm comparing this to and tree done tone even comic con has stuff that toy have to sign nda's i almost went to two last time i was at comic con. But seeing as i get exited i didn't want to get in trouble talking about the stuff.
It is fair to point out that these guys, Michael Bay and Paramount, do put out what are some of the biggest movies outside of Marvel.

TMNT may be no match for the Marvel machine, but there's not much better competition you could have. And TMNT probably has an edge on kids (and their families), considering most won't be familiar with Guardians, or care about a studio logo. I still say Guardians needs to put a popular Marvel character in their promotions, or do something obvious in Cap 2, so kids see this is all connected. I don't know if they'd pick up on that "collector" thing...i was trying to get at that i love transformers but others don't and they call it a terrible movie so if he can make a terrible movie make just as much as a good marvel, imagine what he could do with an equally if not more popular franchise that's at it's peek if popularity and it's own second coming.

[chrisdude]

No. That'd ruin the whole point.Of making money?

I'm not saying shoehorn a character into the actual movie. Just throw some crap in the commercial, like, "In the universe of The Avengers..." and flash a few faces.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Of making money?

I'm not saying shoehorn a character into the actual movie. Just throw some crap in the commercial, like, "In the universe of The Avengers..." and flash a few faces.

I see what you're saying. I thought you meant, like, making Iron Man part of the movie or something, which would be an awful idea.

[samxsteal]

I see what you're saying. I thought you meant, like, making Iron Man part of the movie or something, which would be an awful idea.

irony of that statement is i think that might be the case the whole point of his deep space armor in IM3 was that it was an Easter egg for GOTG
https://static.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/51ce6099e4b0d911b4489b79/51ce617ae4b0d911b449581d/1364427895045/1000w/16548010151511023297290.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eDaxl7RjPK8/UXiS7iG3yyI/AAAAAAAAOW8/XUiHLe_fCDs/s1600/IRON-MAN-3-DEEP-SPACE-ARMOR.jpg

He was a member of them at one point and time
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Marvel-NOW-Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-001Cover.jpg

[TheSkeletonMan939]

According to rumors the original post-credits scene of Iron Man 3 was him going into space using his "deep space" suit and discovering something GotG-related.

What we got instead was the equivalent of a "screw you!" from Shane Black. God that movie was terrible.

[voltron80]

The trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy was released this week, and WOW! My facebook feed was exploding with the people sharing the trailer. People who had no idea what it was until the trailer was released were talking about it too.

The fact that the trailer was launched on Jimmy Kimmel also brought in a huge hype factor.

So with all that...

Did Guardians of the Galaxy just win the month of August, and is this another nail in the TMNT 2014 movie coffin?

Nope. Two factors 1. Turtles are better known plus the kids factor(and older fans going to see it despite fan boy internet whining) and 2. Let's be real here the turtles trailer could be 30 seconds and as long the turtles look good design wise and look good fighting while having some cool banter among the turtles people will go Guardians of the who or what again?

[TrickOrTreater]

Nope. Two factors 1. Turtles are better known plus the kids factor(and older fans going to see it despite fan boy internet whining) and 2. Let's be real here the turtles trailer could be 30 seconds and as long the turtles look good design wise and look good fighting while having some cool banter among the turtles people will go Guardians of the who or what again?

They don't.

[jestermon]

Because it was a teaser. Teasers don't show story.

Trailers show story.

They show whatever they edit them up to show you can't tell what's going to happen in the whole movie no matter how many trailers or teasers you want.

I think if anything turtles will draw more people that have nostalgia, the guardians doesn't have as much I think, I had never even heard of them until the toys came out a while back.

However the same people that watch the turtles are more than likely to go watch the guardians too.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Yeah, that must be why all those Star Wars films flopped.:roll:

And the Star Trek remake and its sequel
And Avatar
And Firefly/Serenity

Flop flop floppity

According to rumors the original post-credits scene of Iron Man 3 was him going into space using his "deep space" suit and discovering something GotG-related.

What we got instead was the equivalent of a "screw you!" from Shane Black. God that movie was terrible.

I loved Iron Man 3. I thought it was okay to good in theaters, but when I put in the blu ray to have background noise while working on some things in the house, I wound up watching the entire thing on the couch paying full attention.

The post credits scene, in my opinion, was absolutely great.

I'm not expecting Cap to have a GotG lead in post-credits, though. From what I've read, Cap has a set up for Avengers 2.

Now, I'll agree the marketing build up might be well suited to establish a connection, which astute observers already know is there from Thor 2.

They mention the Tesaract is in the Asgard vaults when they take the Aether to the Collector and say two power stones shouldn't be in the same place. The Collector says "one down..." suggesting he's gathering these "power stones" and Thanos was tied into Avengers and apparently ties into Guardians of the Galaxy.

Seems to me that if the Tesaract (*cough*Cosmic Cube*cough*) is serving as a power stone and we've got two, plus Thanos..... Marvel Phase 3 is going to be building up to the Infinity Gauntlet for Avengers 3.

[blindturtle02]

I just hope the infinity gauntlet stuff isn't another big middle finger. Loved Mandarin as a kid and wasn't too happy with Iron-Man III. It was alright but the first two were much better imho. Can't wait for Guardians. I'll be going to see both TMNT and Gardians in August, but I'm more excited for this one because of the Avengers connections and all.

[voltron80]

They don't.

Your opinion..And quoting a famous person it doesn't matter what you think.

[RayFillet]

TMNT will go massive at the box office, just like Transformer did.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I just hope the infinity gauntlet stuff isn't another big middle finger. Loved Mandarin as a kid and wasn't too happy with Iron-Man III. It was alright but the first two were much better imho. Can't wait for Guardians. I'll be going to see both TMNT and Gardians in August, but I'm more excited for this one because of the Avengers connections and all.

Have you seen All Hail the King on the Thor 2 blu ray?

Basically it's about Trevor Slattery, the Mandarin from Iron Man 3, in prison. A journalist is interviewing him to understand more about him and his background. At the end of their interview, he reveals he's not a journalist... After asking if Slattery researched the origins of The Mandarin (Slattery didn't), it's revealed the supposed journalist is a member of the Ten Rings (group that captured Tony in Iron Man 1 to begin with) and essentially they've come to break Slattery out of prison and take him "to the man whose name you stole."

Some speculation if it's a set up for Iron Man 4

[samxsteal]

Have you seen All Hail the King on the Thor 2 blu ray?

Basically it's about Trevor Slattery, the Mandarin from Iron Man 3, in prison. A journalist is interviewing him to understand more about him and his background. At the end of their interview, he reveals he's not a journalist... After asking if Slattery researched the origins of The Mandarin (Slattery didn't), it's revealed the supposed journalist is a member of the Ten Rings (group that captured Tony in Iron Man 1 to begin with) and essentially they've come to break Slattery out of prison and take him "to the man whose name you stole."

Some speculation if it's a set up for Iron Man 4
IT FREAKING ROCKED i love hail to the king it was funny insightful and awesome

[chrisdude]

They mention the Tesaract is in the Asgard vaults when they take the Aether to the Collector and say two power stones shouldn't be in the same place. The Collector says "one down..." suggesting he's gathering these "power stones" and Thanos was tied into Avengers and apparently ties into Guardians of the Galaxy.

Seems to me that if the Tesaract (*cough*Cosmic Cube*cough*) is serving as a power stone and we've got two, plus Thanos..... Marvel Phase 3 is going to be building up to the Infinity Gauntlet for Avengers 3.http://i.imgur.com/IT9tPaP.gif

You lost me at "power stones." I'm still waiting for the Chitauri to be explained...

[SwiftNinjaFox]

http://i.imgur.com/IT9tPaP.gif

You lost me at "power stones." I'm still waiting for the Chitauri to be explained...

I'm thinking they're using "power stones" in place of "infinity stones."

Basically six stones that, when gathered in the infinity gauntlet, grants the wielder god-like power.

What explanation are you looking for with the Chitauri?

[Jester]

I'm thinking they're using "power stones" in place of "infinity stones."

Basically six stones that, when gathered in the infinity gauntlet, grants the wielder god-like power.

What explanation are you looking for with the Chitauri?
I think they called them "infinity stones" over 'infinity gems", actually.

[samxsteal]

http://i.imgur.com/IT9tPaP.gif

You lost me at "power stones." I'm still waiting for the Chitauri to be explained...
LOL I Laughed so loud at the gif hahaha.
I'm thinking they're using "power stones" in place of "infinity stones."

Basically six stones that, when gathered in the infinity gauntlet, grants the wielder god-like power.

What explanation are you looking for with the Chitauri?Yup pretty much this ^_^ As for Chitauri there and Alien species Being controlled by Thanos (big purple guy at the end of Avengers)(also commonly known as the wielder of the infinity Gauntlet) To attack earth and enslave it.

I think they called them "infinity stones" over 'infinity gems", actually.
I think its a matter of which comics if i can remember correctly

[Slade]

Your opinion..And quoting a famous person it doesn't matter what you think.

:blanksta: I'm tempted....

[Jeff]

Without reading a single post in this thread, my answer to the question posed in the thread title is:

Yes.

[NinjaPug]

For those interested, a new BTS clip of GOTG is being released during Agents of Shield on Tuesday.

[MajorViolence]

For those interested, a new BTS clip of GOTG is being released during Agents of Shield on Tuesday.

Oh hell yes! Thank you!

[Warhorse]

More than likely. And I noticed something else, the TMNT movie don't have anything for the tween girls. No hot guys (and hot guys disguised as the Turtles don't count.) GOTG at least has Starlord, which was getting some ooohhs at the theater trailer.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

wow you new fans really are an impatient bunch arnt you...cant even wait a couple months

boy was i naive....id say its a safe bet by now the GOTG has Def buried TMNT...they just dont know it yet

[MajorViolence]

More than likely. And I noticed something else, the TMNT movie don't have anything for the tween girls. No hot guys (and hot guys disguised as the Turtles don't count.) GOTG at least has Starlord, which was getting some ooohhs at the theater trailer.

When the trailer dropped, at least 6 or 7 of my friends all came out admitting to having a secret crush on the man. Apparently he's been causing tingly feelings in ladies' lower regions for a while now, but it took him getting abs for them to feel alright with admitting this in public.

[NinjaPug]

I'm shocked at my anticipation for GOTG and lack thereof for TMNT.

TMNT / Star Wars are my favorite franchises. I've been a fan of TMNT since 1987 with a childhood obsessed with the OT and movies that led to me finding the original Mirage books - which only increased my love of the franchise. Outside of the fact that it's a new TMNT film on the big screen I'm not excited for this movie at all. I absolutely hate the team that is behind this film. I'm sure I'll see it during its opening week but if I don't then it won't be a big deal.

Counter that to my history with GOTG. I had never heard of GOTG until a couple weeks before Marvel announced the movie at SDCC in 2012. I did some research on them and was interested in it especially their connection to Thanos. Then they hired James Gunn which upped my excitement. I'm planning on seeing this movie at a midnight showing on opening day despite swearing off midnight shows after Spider-Man 3. I can't see this movie soon enough.

I'm just amazed that I'm more excited about a movie I've only known about for less than 2 years over a movie of a franchise that I've cherished for 25 years.

[TigerClaw]

GOTG will do well on its opening weekend and be #1, And that's not just cause of the fans who read the comics that go out to see it, But from people who just want to see it because, its the next Marvel movie.

TMNT will be #1 in its opening weekend putting GOTG to #2, The reason? Cause TMNT has a higher fanbase. Its not fair to compare these two when TMNT has a higher fanbase, Its a property that is very well known, Been around for 30 years and have so many incarnations, GOTG on the other hand is a brand new property for Marvel to tackle, Which is why its being known as Marvel's biggest gamble.

Both films will be successful at the box office, But I have a feeling TMNT will come on top in the month of April.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

TMNT will be #1 in its opening weekend

sorry dude i just dont see it, and its not even "TMNT is that bad a movie rant kinda way"

for it to be number one it has to beat GOTG at the box office and make its profit back

summer is always a time we normal hold time for films, especially popular ones, GOTG is the major place holder in Phase 2 for marvel so people are going to see it a few times over TMNT

it would not surprise me if movies wil Transformers and Planet of the apes are still in certain theaters around that time


as much as i love the franchise i dont think its strong enough (yet) to warrent that...had they waited a few more years for the show to really gain its popularity and continue doing what it is doing they couldve made a great film, maybe even with those same Nick turtles

[TigerClaw]

sorry dude i just dont see it, and its not even a TMNT is that bad a movie


summer is always a time we normal hold time for films, especially popular ones, GOTG is the major place holder in Phase 2 for marvel so people are going to see it a few times over TMNT

it would not surprise me if movies wil Transformers and Planet of the apes are still in certain theaters around that time
Actually GOTG is setting up Phase 3, Word got out that it ties to Avengers 3.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Actually GOTG is setting up Phase 3, Word got out that it ties to Avengers 3.

then thats even more anticipation..thats another entire list of movies our minds cant even grasp at and pretty much years worth of marketing starting up (eh sam..years wroth)

so really TMNT is fighting against an entire universe of characters...something that has never been done before in a movie world

[TigerClaw]

then thats even more anticipation..thats another entire list of movies our minds cant even grasp at and pretty much years worth of marketing starting up (eh sam..years wroth)

so really TMNT is fighting against an entire universe of characters...something that has movie been done before in a movie world
Well, Thanos is kind of involved in GOTG, Which is an indication that He will be the main villain for Avengers 3.

[Warhorse]

I'm shocked at my anticipation for GOTG and lack thereof for TMNT.

TMNT / Star Wars are my favorite franchises. I've been a fan of TMNT since 1987 with a childhood obsessed with the OT and movies that led to me finding the original Mirage books - which only increased my love of the franchise. Outside of the fact that it's a new TMNT film on the big screen I'm not excited for this movie at all. I absolutely hate the team that is behind this film. I'm sure I'll see it during its opening week but if I don't then it won't be a big deal.

Counter that to my history with GOTG. I had never heard of GOTG until a couple weeks before Marvel announced the movie at SDCC in 2012. I did some research on them and was interested in it especially their connection to Thanos. Then they hired James Gunn which upped my excitement. I'm planning on seeing this movie at a midnight showing on opening day despite swearing off midnight shows after Spider-Man 3. I can't see this movie soon enough.

I'm just amazed that I'm more excited about a movie I've only known about for less than 2 years over a movie of a franchise that I've cherished for 25 years.

Same here man. About a year ago, I just heard that Michael Bay is producing TMNT, and I am not a Michael Bay hater. In fact, I love most of his movies. I love the Transformers, and I thought the TMNT movie was going to be out of this world. I barely heard of GOTG, I just kept on reading that it will be TMNT's biggest BO threat. I was like, pft, TMNT will kick GOTG ass.

Then I saw the teaser trailers. GOTG was freaking awesome, while TMNT was like, WTF????? Amazing how that tide changes, huh! I can't believe I would be rooting for a TMNT movie to fail. Can't believe it. A freaking 3 foot raccoon looks more badass than Leonardo or Raphael for crying out loud! Who would've thunk it?

[Pondslider]

Marvel movies make a ton of money. No way TMNT passes it even for a week.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

May be? It's fairly obvious.

Avengers ended with chitauri report to Thanos that to attack Earth is to court death. Thanos is in love with Death....literally, the being of death itself. He's the ultimate nihilist. He wants to destroy everything, wipe out everything, kill everything because of his obsession and love of Death. (Too bad she and Deadpool kinda have a thing) ;)

So you've got Avengers events bringing Earth and the Avengers to Thanos' attention.

The tesseract is the infinity gem of mind, sealed in Asgard's vaults.
The aether is the infinity gem of power, currently obtained by the Collector who is apparently seeking a "full set" of the infinity gems.
The Collector is involved in Guardians of the Galaxy. Likely another infinity gem will be obtained there.
Thanos is present in Guardians of the Galaxy (and if he gets a teaser appearance in a trailer, the general audience will get the link to Avengers)

That's 3 of 6 infinity gems with 2 potentially in Thanos' possession by end of Guardians.

You can safely bet there's a high probability the infinity gem for spirit will be involved in Dr. Strange when it comes out in Phase 3.

The pieces are all going into place. Avengers 3 is going to climax the Avengers movies with an adaptation of the Infinity Gauntlet.

And it shall be awesome.

I'm in the same boat. I'm more excited for Guardians, who I've never followed at all, than I am for TMNT which I've been a fan of for years.

[Warhorse]

I think the only way TMNT will get it's investment returned will be through merchandise, not the theatrical BO.

[tmntmikey23]

tmnt will be good and it will beat GOG no doubt

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

tmnt will be good and it will beat GOG no doubt

i must applaud you for blind love dude

but at the same time must question the rock you live under

[NinjaPug]

more picking on me -_-

How is that picking on you? Do you expect him to take your post "tmnt will be good and it will beat GOG no doubt" as fact when you provide absolutely no reasoning to support your opinion?

Get a grip and stop turning every thread you post in into 'woe is me. Everyone is a big bully'

[MajorViolence]

I think the only way TMNT will get it's investment returned will be through merchandise, not the theatrical BO.

I'm not even sure it will do that. These new designs aren't very toyetic, if you ask me. The action figures just don't look like something kids will want to play with. Kind of like the Avatar action figures, and that movie did fantastic, yet stores could not get those things off their shelves no matter how many times they slashed prices. And the Lego sets? One is way too big and expensive to be a big seller, and the 18 wheeler is one of the most boring sets I've ever seen. The Turtle Van is really the only set that has potential.

[snake]

I'm sooooooooooo excited for this. It has such a good tone and change from the other marvel movies.

[graphic_content]

I plan on seeing both so Marvel and Platinum Dunes will both be getting my money, :D

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I plan on seeing both so Marvel and Platinum Dunes will both be getting my money, :D

Afterwards, imagine swapping Mikey and Rocket in their respective movies.

Hilarity ensues.

[graphic_content]

Afterwards, imagine swapping Mikey and Rocket in their respective movies.

Hilarity ensues.

I would dare say the new turtles designs would actually work in that world...shame we'll never see that though.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I would dare say the new turtles designs would actually work in that world...shame we'll never see that though.

Raphael has a crazy space adventure with Groot. Rocket/Raph have similar anger issues. ;)

[graphic_content]

Raphael has a crazy space adventure with Groot. Rocket/Raph have similar anger issues. ;)

Donnie helps track down another stone for the infinity gauntlet, and Leo and Starlord form a similar love/hate thing that he and Raph previously had...man, the story just writes itself, lol.

[MajorViolence]

Perhaps the four turtles must each travel as far away from each other as possible, each guarding an infinity stone?

http://i.imgur.com/tKja5ld.jpg

[graphic_content]

Perhaps the four turtles must each travel as far away from each other as possible, each guarding an infinity stone?

http://i.imgur.com/tKja5ld.jpg

That picture has me cracking up. :lol:

[SwiftNinjaFox]

perhaps the four turtles must each travel as far away from each other as possible, each guarding an infinity stone?

http://i.imgur.com/tkja5ld.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N493CQgQ_Hk

[MajorViolence]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N493CQgQ_Hk

I laughed so hard I scared my cat.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

That's my favorite "Nooooo!" clip

[MikeandRaph87]

Wall Street thinks there is room for both Guardians and Ninja Turtles. Hope its right.

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/entertainment/12-blockbusters-that-will-burn-up-the-box-office-this-summer.html/?a=viewall


12. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (August 8)

There’s already a lot of buzz surrounding Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s the 8th ranked film on IMDB’s MovieMeter, which means it’s a highly searched term this week, a full four months before it’s due to be released.

Originally a comic book, the ninja turtles were first adapted for screen in 1990. That first film was a commercial success, spawning sequels in 1991 and 1993. Another film for the franchise didn’t follow until 2007, and unlike the previous films, was completely computer generated. Given its low production budget — just $34 million — the film didn’t exactly ‘bomb,’ but it barely ranked in the top 50 films that year, a far cry from a blockbuster. With the king of blockbusters, Michael Bay, behind the upcoming film, it’s fair to say expectations for the reboot are higher.

As demonstrated in 2007, there will always be an audience for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Fortunately, young men in their teens and twenties are the biggest theater-going demographic, and they also happen to be the generation that grew up with the ninja turtles, on film and on TV, as action figures and Halloween costumes. With the same man behind the Transformers franchise lending his expertise to the turtles reboot, and adding Megan Fox for good measure, it seems likely Paramount will have a hit on its hands come August.

[TigerClaw]

Wall Street thinks there is room for both Guardians and Ninja Turtles. Hope its right.

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/entertainment/12-blockbusters-that-will-burn-up-the-box-office-this-summer.html/?a=viewall


12. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (August 8)

There’s already a lot of buzz surrounding Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s the 8th ranked film on IMDB’s MovieMeter, which means it’s a highly searched term this week, a full four months before it’s due to be released.

Originally a comic book, the ninja turtles were first adapted for screen in 1990. That first film was a commercial success, spawning sequels in 1991 and 1993. Another film for the franchise didn’t follow until 2007, and unlike the previous films, was completely computer generated. Given its low production budget — just $34 million — the film didn’t exactly ‘bomb,’ but it barely ranked in the top 50 films that year, a far cry from a blockbuster. With the king of blockbusters, Michael Bay, behind the upcoming film, it’s fair to say expectations for the reboot are higher.

As demonstrated in 2007, there will always be an audience for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Fortunately, young men in their teens and twenties are the biggest theater-going demographic, and they also happen to be the generation that grew up with the ninja turtles, on film and on TV, as action figures and Halloween costumes. With the same man behind the Transformers franchise lending his expertise to the turtles reboot, and adding Megan Fox for good measure, it seems likely Paramount will have a hit on its hands come August.
There pretty much right about it on that article regarding the Demographic, Anyone in there teens or around there 20s or higher grew up with TMNT. So its a safe bet that it will do extremely well at the box office.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I must be one of the only people who didn't like the look of Guardians of the galaxy. The trailer didn't sell well, if you ask me

[hitmonkey]

That Wall Street write-up doesn't seem to have a handle on the fact that a lot of the target demographic who grew up loving Turtles already hate this film. That's not to say the movie will bomb, but they're making a blanket assumption that growing up with TMNT = going to see the movie.

[TigerClaw]

That Wall Street write-up doesn't seem to have a handle on the fact that a lot of the target demographic who grew up loving Turtles already hate this film. That's not to say the movie will bomb, but they're making a blanket assumption that growing up with TMNT = going to see the movie.
I have to disagree because, There are a lot of people within that demographic that grew up with the Turtles and are going to see the movie.

[hitmonkey]

I have to disagree because, There are a lot of people within that demographic that grew up with the Turtles and are going to see the movie.

I didn't say there weren't. I just said there were plenty of fans who grew up with the franchise who want nothing to do with this film. There's not really anything to disagree with. It's a true statement.

[fridaynightdestination]

I plan on seeing both so Marvel and Platinum Dunes will both be getting my money, :D

This. Both movies look extremely fun and awesome and I can't wait to see both of them.

[Vicky82]

I like Marvel but I never heard of GOTG until a few months ago, Don't no if I should go this film or not but with TMNT out in October and maybe another trailer could convince me to go see it.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I like Marvel but I never heard of GOTG until a few months ago, Don't no if I should go this film or not but with TMNT out in October and maybe another trailer could convince me to go see it.

If it helps, Guardians of the Galaxy ties in with the ongoing build up towards Avengers 3 and Thanos obtaining the Infinity Gauntlet.

I never really knew anything about the characters either, but a temperamental gun toting raccoon will always get me in a theater.

Friend of mine was telling me about the Avengers cartoon that's on now where they cross paths with the Guardians. Tony or Hawkeye asks if Rocket's their mascot raccoon and Rocket immediately puts a gun barrel in their face. Not sure if the "raccoon" or "mascot" annoyed him more. :D

[MajorViolence]

I've been reading the Bendis comics, and these guys are fantastic characters. They should make for a great film. Rocket keeps having conversations with Groot that remind me of Han Solo and Chewie, with humor coming from you only being able to understand Rocket's half of the dialog.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I've been reading the Bendis comics, and these guys are fantastic characters. They should make for a great film. Rocket keeps having conversations with Groot that remind me of Han Solo and Chewie, with humor coming from you only being able to understand Rocket's half of the dialog.

From what I've read, Vin Diesel is going to be accurate with "I am Groot" being his only line all the time. ;)

[MajorViolence]

From what I've read, Vin Diesel is going to be accurate with "I am Groot" being his only line all the time. ;)

Groot pretty much is the Iron Giant, personality-wise, so that could seriously not be better casting. He's the one member of the group that is completely selfless and loyal, and his best friend just happens to be a trigger-happy raccoon. They're the sort of characters that have to be kept as secondary players because they steal the show way too easily. The only character I'm not head-over-heels crazy about is Drax, and it's not that anything is wrong with him, he just hasn't displayed too much personality outside of being really good at killing things, at least in what I've read.

And Gamora? This captures pretty well why she's awesome:

http://i.imgur.com/yhypmOE.jpg
(that is Tony Stark)

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

while it may not make a difference, I heard gaurdians has a huge space battle..so it may be something you dont want to miss on the big screen

[samxsteal]

while it may not make a difference, I heard gaurdians has a huge space battle..so it may be something you dont want to miss on the big screen

So did the star wars prequels..... I think Enders game was probably one of the better ones and im sure GOTG will be awesome but does mean its Something people dont want to miss.

[MajorViolence]

So did the star wars prequels..... I think Enders game was probably one of the better ones and im sure GOTG will be awesome but does mean its Something people dont want to miss.

I don't know that it came across properly in his post. He means a huge space battle.

[samxsteal]

I don't know that it came across properly in his post. He means a huge space battle.

and those movies didn't ? any way

I seriously dont get why both can't do well i know people argue plenty of thing but tmnt as well as GOTG are on many people lists of movie to see As seen on twitter

[TrickOrTreater]

I've been reading the Bendis comics, and these guys are fantastic characters. They should make for a great film. Rocket keeps having conversations with Groot that remind me of Han Solo and Chewie, with humor coming from you only being able to understand Rocket's half of the dialog.

They just look like really cool, awesome characters.

Really unique and interesting group.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

exactly..Guardians may be one of those people don't want to miss while in theaters..i am not saying go see this over anything but i know there are some movies i wished i watch in the big screen

[Warhorse]

I don't know that it came across properly in his post. He means a huge space battle.

I took it as, like the movie Gravity, there are just some movies you need to see in the theater to get that full awesome affect.

I for myself, know nothing of this new phase of the Avengers, and I prefer it that way for now. I want to go in with a fresh mind set. And it wasn't so much the Rambo Raccoon that sold it for me, it was the song, and me hearing that there will be some nods to the 80's era, which is what probably has some of the biggest impact, so I am looking forward to that nostalgia feeling again.

exactly..Guardians may be one of those people don't want to miss while in theaters..i am not saying go see this over anything but i know there are some movies i wished i watch in the big screen

Tell me about it. I wish I was aware of Kick Ass when it was in the theater. I don't remember any kind of promotion for it. I wouldn't know about it till my cousin rented it one night and I fell in love with that movie then. I still would love to see it in the theater, but I doubt this is something that will probably never happen now. If Kick Ass 2 was actually a good movie and was a box office hit, then yeah, they could have made a trilogy, but it's just not the case.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

and those movies didn't ? any way

I seriously dont get why both can't do well i know people argue plenty of thing but tmnt as well as GOTG are on many people lists of movie to see As seen on twitter

It's primarily because of analyst predictions and past history with box office experience. August is generally a weak month as people are honestly a little burned out after the summer blockbuster season so there's a lot of speculation on whether or not people, already winding down on summer spending, will still shell out for two last hurrahs and if they go to one, will that impact the other.

Honestly, the speculation on whether or not both will do good has a lot less to do with quality of either film and more to do with speculation on movie goer habits in that month. Of course, people will deem them going head to head due to timing. Just like there's already speculation on who will "win" between Cap 3 and Batman/Superman.

People can say anything online, but trend data indicates August isn't the strongest of months. I'd bet money Marvel didn't want to go head to head with other big summer movies with their relatively unknown title so they picked as close in July as they could with the first week of August.

Likewise, Paramount likely didn't want to be head to head with Guardians, but didn't want to be too far out of summer themselves, particularly after moving Turtles back to not compete with their own film in Transformers 4.

It's also possible, as I've read recent speculation, that Guardians could be hurt.....by Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier wowed critics, who usually don't go for comic book movies so some are wondering if that set the bar too high for Guardians and negative critic response could impact movie goers, again due to the reluctance to spend more money after the main summer season.

It's really not so much "which will do better" as much as "will either do well" due to timing. Going near head to head simply doesn't help either one and people are going to predict one will "win" over the other. Even if they both make triple their budgets, people will still declare one a winner. ;)

It will definitely be interesting to see how both fare.

I took it as, like the movie Gravity, there are just some movies you need to see in the theater to get that full awesome affect.

I realized yesterday that I NEED to see Godzilla in IMAX. ;)

I will NOT be seeing TMNT in 3D, I don't think. I don't personally like 3D is movies. Very very few, in fact. Yeah, it was cool in Avatar, which was built from the ground up and made a lot of subtle uses that worked great (you should forget it's in 3D for 3D to be done right), but when watching it on normal blu ray.....I didn't feel I had lost anything.

Likewise I felt The Hobbit was not good in 3D or 40FPS because it broke the visual tone and style LotR established. Much better in standard format to me.

So yeah....2D TMNT would be the way to go for me.

Guardians, probably 2D as well, but if I find people saying the 3D is worthwhile, I'll consider it.

[Warhorse]

It's primarily because of analyst predictions and past history with box office experience. August is generally a weak month as people are honestly a little burned out after the summer blockbuster season so there's a lot of speculation on whether or not people, already winding down on summer spending, will still shell out for two last hurrahs and if they go to one, will that impact the other.

Honestly, the speculation on whether or not both will do good has a lot less to do with quality of either film and more to do with speculation on movie goer habits in that month. Of course, people will deem them going head to head due to timing. Just like there's already speculation on who will "win" between Cap 3 and Batman/Superman.

People can say anything online, but trend data indicates August isn't the strongest of months. I'd bet money Marvel didn't want to go head to head with other big summer movies with their relatively unknown title so they picked as close in July as they could with the first week of August.

Likewise, Paramount likely didn't want to be head to head with Guardians, but didn't want to be too far out of summer themselves, particularly after moving Turtles back to not compete with their own film in Transformers 4.

It's also possible, as I've read recent speculation, that Guardians could be hurt.....by Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier wowed critics, who usually don't go for comic book movies so some are wondering if that set the bar too high for Guardians and negative critic response could impact movie goers, again due to the reluctance to spend more money after the main summer season.

It's really not so much "which will do better" as much as "will either do well" due to timing. Going near head to head simply doesn't help either one.

It will definitely be interesting to see how both fare.



I realized yesterday that I NEED to see Godzilla in IMAX. ;)

I will NOT be seeing TMNT in 3D, I don't think. I don't personally like 3D is movies. Very very few, in fact. Yeah, it was cool in Avatar, which was built from the ground up and made a lot of subtle uses that worked great (you should forget it's in 3D for 3D to be done right), but when watching it on normal blu ray.....I didn't feel I had lost anything.

Likewise I felt The Hobbit was not good in 3D or 40FPS because it broke the visual tone and style LotR established. Much better in standard format to me.

So yeah....2D TMNT would be the way to go for me.

Guardians, probably 2D as well, but if I find people saying the 3D is worthwhile, I'll consider it.

So, what movie is going to get IMAX when August comes around. I also wonder which movie will get IMAX when we have that Captain America 3/Batman vs Superman comes out in 2016. And yes, I know I want to see Godzilla too. Now that's what you call a good trailer. I was not much of a Godzilla fan, and I never went to see the one with Broderick in the theater, and thank goodness. Only good thing about that movie was Jean Reno, and even he couldn't save it.

3D I think depends on the theater. I have seen CA2 now, once in IMAX 3D, once in 3D and once in 2D, and I thought the IMAX 3D was my best experience, but I thought the 2D was the worst. Blurry and dark!

As for TMNT and GOTG, right now, I have no intentions to see either in 3D, unless I have no other choice, which my local complexes like to do sometimes.

[samxsteal]

It's primarily because of analyst predictions and past history with box office experience. August is generally a weak month as people are honestly a little burned out after the summer blockbuster season so there's a lot of speculation on whether or not people, already winding down on summer spending, will still shell out for two last hurrahs and if they go to one, will that impact the other.

Honestly, the speculation on whether or not both will do good has a lot less to do with quality of either film and more to do with speculation on movie goer habits in that month. Of course, people will deem them going head to head due to timing. Just like there's already speculation on who will "win" between Cap 3 and Batman/Superman.

People can say anything online, but trend data indicates August isn't the strongest of months. I'd bet money Marvel didn't want to go head to head with other big summer movies with their relatively unknown title so they picked as close in July as they could with the first week of August.

Likewise, Paramount likely didn't want to be head to head with Guardians, but didn't want to be too far out of summer themselves, particularly after moving Turtles back to not compete with their own film in Transformers 4.

It's also possible, as I've read recent speculation, that Guardians could be hurt.....by Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier wowed critics, who usually don't go for comic book movies so some are wondering if that set the bar too high for Guardians and negative critic response could impact movie goers, again due to the reluctance to spend more money after the main summer season.

It's really not so much "which will do better" as much as "will either do well" due to timing. Going near head to head simply doesn't help either one and people are going to predict one will "win" over the other. Even if they both make triple their budgets, people will still declare one a winner. ;)

It will definitely be interesting to see how both fare.



I realized yesterday that I NEED to see Godzilla in IMAX. ;)

I will NOT be seeing TMNT in 3D, I don't think. I don't personally like 3D is movies. Very very few, in fact. Yeah, it was cool in Avatar, which was built from the ground up and made a lot of subtle uses that worked great (you should forget it's in 3D for 3D to be done right), but when watching it on normal blu ray.....I didn't feel I had lost anything.

Likewise I felt The Hobbit was not good in 3D or 40FPS because it broke the visual tone and style LotR established. Much better in standard format to me.

So yeah....2D TMNT would be the way to go for me.

Guardians, probably 2D as well, but if I find people saying the 3D is worthwhile, I'll consider it.
But those TNT 3d glasses look jk

[SwiftNinjaFox]

So, what movie is going to get IMAX when August comes around.

I'd guess between the two it would be Marvel simply because Disney has a partnership deal with IMAX. Money talks on that decision, plain and simple.


3D I think depends on the theater. I have seen CA2 now, once in IMAX 3D, once in 3D and once in 2D, and I thought the IMAX 3D was my best experience, but I thought the 2D was the worst. Blurry and dark!

Like I said, to me it just depends on the film's use. I prefer 3D to be subtle so you forget about it, but still having a purpose to draw you in without you noticing it. Up used 3D tremendously well, I'm told, to give the interior of the house a claustrophobic feeling (and since this is a TMNT forum.... "I've never even looked at another guy.")

And the best theater in the world would still make me feel like The Hobbit was not visually aligned with its counterpart.

BUT good to hear about Cap. Maybe I'll catch it in IMAX 3D if I get the chance! :)

unless I have no other choice, which my local complexes like to do sometimes.

I absolutely hate when they do that!

But those TNT 3d glasses look jk

Son of a biscuit, I forgot about those.

I could hate everything, I mean EVERYTHING, about the TMNT movie and I might still NEED to see it for a pair of Leo glasses. You don't understand that I mean I NEED that blue bandanna glasses!

[Warhorse]

But those TNT 3d glasses look jk

Hey, I went to a special event back in 2012 where the theater was showing Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Ironman 2, Thor and Captain America and the midnight release of the Avengers, in 3D, and I got a cool Hulk pair.

And before that, I went to go see LOTR FOTR EE and TT EE and the midnight showing of ROTK, and we got frames of the movie shown at the world premier.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Hey, I went to a special event back in 2012 where the theater was showing Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Ironman 2, Thor and Captain America and the midnight release of the Avengers, in 3D, and I got a cool Hulk pair.

I went to the same thing! I got Iron Man for mine.

[Puddinpop]

I went to the same thing! I got Iron Man for mine.

I remember that... Good times. I love the midnight showings they feel like going to a live show in a way. I can't wait to get the raph glasses and order pizzas for my friends. As for this thread title.. Its a little premature. To say one film will wipe the floor with another is jumping the gun a bit. I do on the other hand feel a little frustrated that Paramount has done such a **** job marketing this film. TMNT is one of the biggest franchises in the world and if the film becomes number one it will be in spite of the **** marketing campaign. Maybe they will get new people in charge for the sequel. I just hope the finished product turns out to be an enjoyable experience. So far it looks like it will be. Guardians looks like a fun film too.

[NinjaPug]

Hitfix released their predictions for the Top 10 highest grossing films domestically this summer. Some notables:

1. Transformers 4 - $375 million
2. Days of a Future Past - $360 million
3. Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $325 million
6. Godzilla - $210 million
7. GOTG - $200 million-ish
8. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - $200 million

TMNT not in the Top 10. #10 on their list had a predicted BO of $165 million

http://www.hitfix.com/news/summer-box-office-predictions-2014-x-men-transformers-maleficent

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

TMNT is one of the biggest franchises in the world

i wouldnt go that far...sure its a well known franchise but there are def bigger ones...is that saying GOTG will wipe the floor? no clue, we could all be proven wrong and TMNT could be a surprise box office smash

but remember when we see these movies and their marketing we have to remove the fan glasses, and look at it from an outside point of view

[samxsteal]

Son of a biscuit, I forgot about those.

I could hate everything, I mean EVERYTHING, about the TMNT movie and I might still NEED to see it for a pair of Leo glasses. You don't understand that I mean I NEED that blue bandanna glasses!I know seriously lol me too I wonder where they will be sold a the theater? or somewhere else?

Hey, I went to a special event back in 2012 where the theater was showing Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Ironman 2, Thor and Captain America and the midnight release of the Avengers, in 3D, and I got a cool Hulk pair.

And before that, I went to go see LOTR FOTR EE and TT EE and the midnight showing of ROTK, and we got frames of the movie shown at the world premier.
pretty sweet.

I went to the same thing! I got Iron Man for mine.
I must have missed this lol
I remember that... Good times. I love the midnight showings they feel like going to a live show in a way. I can't wait to get the raph glasses and order pizzas for my friends. As for this thread title.. Its a little premature. To say one film will wipe the floor with another is jumping the gun a bit. I do on the other hand feel a little frustrated that Paramount has done such a **** job marketing this film. TMNT is one of the biggest franchises in the world and if the film becomes number one it will be in spite of the **** marketing campaign. Maybe they will get new people in charge for the sequel. I just hope the finished product turns out to be an enjoyable experience. So far it looks like it will be. Guardians looks like a fun film too.

Agree it could go either way once its closer to release i will judge more All i know it im going to be going to both.

[Warhorse]

Hitfix released their predictions for the Top 10 highest grossing films domestically this summer. Some notables:

1. Transformers 4 - $375 million
2. Days of a Future Past - $360 million
3. Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $325 million
6. Godzilla - $210 million
7. GOTG - $200 million-ish
8. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - $200 million

TMNT not in the Top 10. #10 on their list had a predicted BO of $165 million

http://www.hitfix.com/news/summer-box-office-predictions-2014-x-men-transformers-maleficent

Hmmm, I really don't know if we will get any movie past 315 million this year except for maybe Mocking Bird and TABA.

[samxsteal]

Hitfix released their predictions for the Top 10 highest grossing films domestically this summer. Some notables:

1. Transformers 4 - $375 million
2. Days of a Future Past - $360 million
3. Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $325 million
6. Godzilla - $210 million
7. GOTG - $200 million-ish
8. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - $200 million

TMNT not in the Top 10. #10 on their list had a predicted BO of $165 million

http://www.hitfix.com/news/summer-box-office-predictions-2014-x-men-transformers-maleficent
i relaly dont think any of those are verry accurate sorry. I mean i get what they are saying but tammy is on the list ive never heard of Tammy?
I mean could happen but im betting more people know and care about tmnt over tammy

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I mean i get what they are saying but tammy is on the list ive never heard of Tammy?

I literally only started seeing trailers for it today on tv
it has a decent lead female cast

its your standard lady flick rom com to break the stigma of all the action movies of the summer


think bridesmaids

[samxsteal]

I literally only started seeing trailers for it today on tv
it has a decent lead female cast

its your standard lady flick rom com to break the stigma of all the action movies of the summer


think bridesmaids

Yeah but bridesmaids was hilarious, tammy look like a copy of that not very original and really tmnt is more well know for that but i get why its on the list but i can see tmnt outshining this,

[Bry]

i relaly dont think any of those are verry accurate sorry. I mean i get what they are saying but tammy is on the list ive never heard of Tammy?
I mean could happen but im betting more people know and care about tmnt over tammy

It's a movie of a completely different genre aimed at a completely different audience, so you can't really compare them directly. Tammy is an R-rated comedy starring Melissa McCarthy, who's a pretty consistent box office winner these days. I've been in the theatre when the trailer played a few times, and the crowd went NUTS. I expect it'll do pretty well.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Yeah but bridesmaids was hilarious, tammy look like a copy of that not very original and really tmnt is more well know for that but i get why its on the list but i can see tmnt outshining this,

Agreed that Bridesmads was hilarious..it was the answer the male comedy "Hangover"

and studios saw it did well so now they will copy that formula to garuntee money at the box office

and like bry said its an entire different audience..chances are people that go see Tammy wont be in line to see TMNT and vice versa

and both studios know that, so they dont even try to outshine the other

[TrickOrTreater]

It's a movie of a completely different genre aimed at a completely different audience, so you can't really compare them directly. Tammy is an R-rated comedy starring Melissa McCarthy, who's a pretty consistent box office winner these days. I've been in the theatre when the trailer played a few times, and the crowd went NUTS. I expect it'll do pretty well.

Yep, that'll be pretty big.

Not sure about Maleficent outboxofficing Godzilla, but other than that that list seems pretty accurate, as far as estimates go.

[Puddinpop]

i wouldnt go that far...sure its a well known franchise but there are def bigger ones...is that saying GOTG will wipe the floor? no clue, we could all be proven wrong and TMNT could be a surprise box office smash

but remember when we see these movies and their marketing we have to remove the fan glasses, and look at it from an outside point of view

I agree completely. And I agree that there are bigger. Thats why I said one of the biggest. The last 30 years with all of the different iterations and the massive merch sales " number 1 selling toy merch in the last six years " im pretty sure but could be wrong, along with the cult classic films and the multipule comic iterations with the latest one being a big success? The nick cartoon becoming a bit hit. Not the biggest, but the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is definitly one of the biggest franchises in the world. No one can deny that fact.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll be rushing to see Guardians.... And dragging my feet to see tmnt.

[Warhorse]

Anyone going to watch AOS tonight for the BTS of GOTG?

[Bob]

There is no way GOTG makes 200 million domestic. That is a preposterous prediction. Nothing to back it up, just pure fanboy subjectivity and bias. Thor: The Dark World made 206 million domestically. The Thor sequel had the benefit of the "Avengers affect", which is now impacting Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Even though it’s based within the same universe GOTG doesn't have that luxury. I thought Hit Fix was supposed to know what they're taking about. It should clear 100 million, but certainly no more than 150, and even that's pushing it.

Anyway, even though a lot of entertainment outlets refuse to admit it, nowadays it is all about how much a film makes globally. North America, these days, is just another territory for the studios to release their films. The lingering stench of imperialism stops many American media outlets from admitting that hard fact.

[Bry]

There is no way GOTG makes 200 million domestic. That is a preposterous prediction. Nothing to back it up, just pure fanboy subjectivity and bias.

Granted, it's more of a long shot than the "core" Marvel franchises, but if the marketing plays up that it ties into Avengers 3 and it gets great word of mouth... I don't think that's unrealistic, honestly.

[The Fifth Turtle]

I sure the hell hope GOTG does not win August. Will I see it? Yeah probably but I hope the turtles come out on top.

TMNT all the way baby :tthumbsu:

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Hitfix released their predictions for the Top 10 highest grossing films domestically this summer. Some notables:

1. Transformers 4 - $375 million
2. Days of a Future Past - $360 million
3. Amazing Spider-Man 2 - $325 million
6. Godzilla - $210 million
7. GOTG - $200 million-ish
8. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - $200 million

TMNT not in the Top 10. #10 on their list had a predicted BO of $165 million

http://www.hitfix.com/news/summer-box-office-predictions-2014-x-men-transformers-maleficent

I really hope Godzilla makes more money. I haven't even seen it yet and I already want a sequel!

[Shark_Blade]

I'll be rushing to see Guardians.... And dragging my feet to see tmnt.
I'm the other way around though. I have no interest for GoG except that raccoon with machine gun, their other characters look so generic and bland. I'm curious what the fuss is all about that's all.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

There is no way GOTG makes 200 million domestic. That is a preposterous prediction. Nothing to back it up, just pure fanboy subjectivity and bias. Thor: The Dark World made 206 million domestically. The Thor sequel had the benefit of the "Avengers affect", which is now impacting Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Even though it’s based within the same universe GOTG doesn't have that luxury. I thought Hit Fix was supposed to know what they're taking about. It should clear 100 million, but certainly no more than 150, and even that's pushing it.

Anyway, even though a lot of entertainment outlets refuse to admit it, nowadays it is all about how much a film makes globally. North America, these days, is just another territory for the studios to release their films. The stench of imperialism stops many American media outlets from admitting that hard fact.

While I have to disagree with you on GotG, I'm 110% with you on the latter point. International box office is more important than ever before these days, especially in markets such as China where Captain America is currently making gobs of cash.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Granted, it's more of a long shot than the "core" Marvel franchises, but if the marketing plays up that it ties into Avengers 3 and it gets great word of mouth... I don't think that's unrealistic, honestly.

Maybe him and others are thinking that it'll do the same as Pacific Rim (which made I think about $100 million in the US).

And that was a film that had big machines (kinda like Transformers but not really) as well as big monsters (like the upcoming Godzilla.) I'm sure some folks thought that would have made more money than it ended up doing. And I think that film had some very good word of mouth as well.

[chrisdude]

This is my first time hearing about Tammy. I guess that's why it's at the bottom of the list.

I really am tired of Melissa McCarthy...

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Maybe him and others are thinking that it'll do the same as Pacific Rim (which made I think about $100 million in the US).

I honestly feel pacific rim was Marketed wrong...which happens to alot of movies...it definitely played the big robot action but it a "wrong" way if you get my drift

it always could have benefited from a toy line outside of the NECA deal

[Warhorse]

This is my first time hearing about Tammy. I guess that's why it's at the bottom of the list.

I really am tired of Melissa McCarthy...

I'm not a fan of her either. I think she's awful. I love Sandra Bullock, but because of this lady, I refuse to watch The Heat. And, I didn't care for Bridesmaids either, I tried to watch it, but I didn't find anything in it funny. The Hangover I found way more entertaining and was actually funny. And I'm a chick.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Maleficent looks surprisingly interesting, though it's probably a Netflix pick for me in the long run.

I didn't realize How to Train Your Dragon 2 was coming out this year either.

i relaly dont think any of those are verry accurate sorry. I mean i get what they are saying but tammy is on the list ive never heard of Tammy?
I mean could happen but im betting more people know and care about tmnt over tammy

Yeah, no matter how divided people are on TMNT, I'd hope it would make more than that thing.

[samxsteal]

Yeah, no matter how divided people are on TMNT, I'd hope it would make more than that thing.

seriously i mean on twitter there are tons of people with tmnt being on there list of go to movies, and could see this thing making more then enough i mean if a movie like that could make that much a movie like tmnt should make at-least that any-day.

[Warhorse]

seriously i mean on twitter there are tons of people with tmnt being on there list of go to movies, and could see this thing making more then enough i mean if a movie like that could make that much a movie like tmnt should make at-least that any-day.

Yeah, but never underestimate the girly girl crowd. They are pretty much responsible for some of the biggest blockbusters in history.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Yeah, but never underestimate the girly girl crowd. They are pretty much responsible for some of the biggest blockbusters in history.

exactly,remember the old saying don't judge a book by its cover..just cause it looks good/bad to you doesn't mean it looks bad/good to someone else


that said i think GOTG will do fine...if not once that opening night and people realize its attached to Marvel universe and Avengers 3 it will bring in the fans of the movie verse and GA

[Puddinpop]

Just found the song in the trailer. its not Tyler its jack trammell Nueromorph in case anyone was interested. Ill try to link it.

[Warhorse]

exactly,remember the old saying don't judge a book by its cover..just cause it looks good/bad to you doesn't mean it looks bad/good to someone else


that said i think GOTG will do fine...if not once that opening night and people realize its attached to Marvel universe and Avengers 3 it will bring in the fans of the movie verse and GA

It's going to do pretty decent. You can bet your bottom dollar that we're going to start seeing magazine covers with Vin Diesel, Bradley Cooper, Zoe Saldana, Glenn Close and Chris Pratt. It's got a cast that is extremely diverse and they will use that to reach out to all of those demographics. And then, the late night shows, the radios station. The marketing will definitely pick up. If you don't know who The Guardians of the Galaxy are by the last week of July, then you sir, have been living under a rock.

Yep, they just had some behind the scenes flashes, and they are definitely going to use Vin Diesel and Bradley Cooper's star power.

[chrisdude]

I've been reading Captain Marvel, and GotG showed up in that. They seem like a hoot.

But, let's face it. I don't like Iron Man or Thor, but I'm still gonna watch anything that happens in the universe, because I like Captain America and SHIELD, and I like watching this whole story play out. Of course I'll see Guardians. I'll see anything that ties in to anything I like.

[Warhorse]

I've been reading Captain Marvel, and GotG showed up in that. They seem like a hoot.

But, let's face it. I don't like Iron Man or Thor, but I'm still gonna watch anything that happens in the universe, because I like Captain America and SHIELD, and I like watching this whole story play out. Of course I'll see Guardians. I'll see anything that ties in to anything I like.

Oh, I love Captain America. I love everything about him. Tony is OK, but in the real world, I could deal with that guy for only so long before I want to punch him in the throat.

[Redeemer]

I could deal with that guy for only so long before I want to punch him in the throat.

I know right???:lol: