grouping characters together

[BabyTurtles]

okay...So I noticed something this show does a lot...it seems to group characters together...

like Karai's stories usually have a lot of Leo in it...

April's stories have a lot of Donnie and recently Casey in it.

Splinter's stories also seem to mostly have Leo shine also...

you get me?

do you guys think this is bad to do? Like it stops the show from having potentially interesting interactions?

like say....April and Raph need to work together to get something done.. or maybe Mikey and Karai get stuck together somewhere and need to find a way out.

I was kinda glad to hear Casey would have a certain relationship with all the turtles...I hope we see more of that.

so what do you think?

[CyberCubed]

They need more Leo/Mike stories. Always like the oldest/youngest brother dynamic.

They always pair Mike/Raph together though.

[NinjaMan]

I want a Leo/Casey pairing and Leatherhead and Casey pairing.

[BabyTurtles]

They need more Leo/Mike stories. Always like the oldest/youngest brother dynamic.

They always pair Mike/Raph together though.

that'd be awesome~ A leo and mikey episode would be nice

[BabyTurtles]

I want a Leo/Casey pairing and Leatherhead and Casey pairing.

Leo and Casey would be cool too~

leatherhead needs to come back first XD but that would also work!

[NinjaMan]

Leo and Casey would be cool too~

leatherhead needs to come back first XD but that would also work!


Yeah I know :(

But the Newtrailizer/Slash pairing should be very interesting

[BabyTurtles]

Yeah I know :(

But the Newtrailizer/Slash pairing should be very interesting

yea, I didn't really expect those 2 to be a team o_o but it should be interesting to see.

[Technogeek29]

And the OT and 2k3 Leo and Mikey teamed up a lot. Don and Raph have never been paired togethor often times just butting heads when they are in the same scene. Would make and intersting episode.

[Leofan26]

I want a Leo/Casey pairing and Leatherhead and Casey pairing.

I'm hoping we get one this season since the writers said he'd be paired with each turtle. I'm dying to see how they'd work as a team :)

I'd also like more Leo / Donnie personally.

[Warhorse]

I always wanted some more Raph and Donny, since these two never seem to have a rapport, and it would be nice to see a series touch up on that.

And then maybe a team effort between Raph and Karai (since he does not trust her and hates her, but she likes him for his spunk and that he does not let his guard down around her)

[victory_angel]

Metalhead Rewired was a Leo/Donnie ep and we are bound to see more of those. So we are likely to see a Raph/Donnie ep before long, after all there is no reason the brains and the brawn of the group needs to be so off kilter unless the writers are planning something with that.

[Eiko]

It really is predictable you get Shredder/Karai it seems to be always Leo/Splinter when it Kraang it April/Don most of the time. Hope it changes. I'm guessing Tiger Claw going to be more, Leo than the rest hope it wont,but most likely will.

[BabyTurtles]

It really is predictable you get Shredder/Karai it seems to be always Leo/Splinter when it Kraang it April/Don most of the time. Hope it changes. I'm guessing Tiger Claw going to be more, Leo than the rest hope it wont,but most likely will.

yea see that's my problem....it's getting so predictable...

it'd be nice to see it mix up a little....

like have a Splinter episode be about another turtle other than Leo for starters.

he has more than one son.

[JTH]

yea see that's my problem....it's getting so predictable...

it'd be nice to see it mix up a little....

like have a Splinter episode be about another turtle other than Leo for starters.

he has more than one son.
Why is something being predictable a problem, I see this argument all the time.

If this is the case, why should anyone ever see a superhero movie when you know the good guy always wins in the end?

If it's done well, I don't care how predictable something is. If they can make it super exciting getting from point A to point B, I won't think less of something because I predicted it. I called Metalhead getting destroyed in Metalhead Rewired, I didn't care that I knew. It was a fantastic done episode.

That's like saying right now, you'll have a problem with the Mutagen Man saga when it starts up again, because you know that will focus on Donnie? Well shouldn't he?

[victory_angel]

like have a Splinter episode be about another turtle other than Leo for starters.

he has more than one son.

Well if my belief that Donnie is an in-the-closet pacifist and that it will be the episodes involving Mutagen Man that start to bring that part out of him. I can see Splinter encouraging Donnie to embrace that aspect about himself.

I can also see Splinter being more involved With Donnie as the Triangle between Casey, April, and himself forms.

Leo and Donnie seem to be the only Turtles that seem to need Splinter more.

Mikey need's to focus, and generally the times Mikey does need to focus he focuses on something Donnie has told him...not Splinter.

And Raph has to learn how to control his Temper but he can be with any of his brothers for that.

[BabyTurtles]

Why is something being predictable a problem, I see this argument all the time.

If this is the case, why should anyone ever see a superhero movie when you know the good guy always wins in the end?

If it's done well, I don't care how predictable something is. If they can make it super exciting getting from point A to point B, I won't think less of something because I predicted it. I called Metalhead getting destroyed in Metalhead Rewired, I didn't care that I knew. It was a fantastic done episode.

That's like saying right now, you'll have a problem with the Mutagen Man saga when it starts up again, because you know that will focus on Donnie? Well shouldn't he?

I don't mean the plot or anything I meant it's predictable which character is gonna get grouped together....

I understand Mutagen man and Metalhead being grouped with Donnie, because Tim is Don's responsibility and Metalhead is Don's creation

but characters like Splinter and April shouldn't be grouped, they should be more universal.

Casey is hanging with Donnie more, I don't see why Splinter, April, and even Karai should be exclusive.

Splinter's their father.
April's their friend
Karai's is now their sister.

All I want is more interactions.

which would make interesting situations.

[Leofan26]

It really is predictable you get Shredder/Karai it seems to be always Leo/Splinter when it Kraang it April/Don most of the time. Hope it changes. I'm guessing Tiger Claw going to be more, Leo than the rest hope it wont,but most likely will.

It only make sense for Tiger Claw to be more about Leo though, they have similar fighting styles, guy's like him and Karai are here to give Leo tough fights. To help him become a better Samurai / sword fighter.

Any ways, Leo / Donnie need more episodes, that's gotta be my favorite team, besides Raph / Leo that is.

Ask for Mikey, he just needs more of every thing right now besides different team ups but that's for another topic :P

Edit ;

I agree about April, why have Donnie spend all the time with April? I hope after his crush on April is over that she spends more time with the other turtles..

[BabyTurtles]

Ask for Mikey, he just needs more of every thing right now besides different team ups but that's for another topic :P

he does though...he's getting so shafted....it's killing me....:cry:

but yea....for another topic...T^T.....

anyway...Tiger Claws has guns....how is that Leo's fighting style..??

[Leofan26]

he does though...he's getting so shafted....it's killing me....:cry:

but yea....for another topic...T^T.....

anyway...Tiger Claws has guns....how is that Leo's fighting style..??

Yah, poor Mikey.

He also knows how to fight with swords, he broke Leo's swords dang good. Tiger Claw would keep calling Leo a cub, I think that should lead to him growing a bit, into a Tiger, that make sense? It'd make a good story arc for Leo in my opinion :D

But again, another topic:P

I know what people mean about Splinter though, wonder why the writers always group Leo with Splinter like that? Even in the 2003 series they did that a lot. It almost makes it seem likeLeo is his favorite LOL.

Most of all, like I said I'd like some more Leo / Donnie episodes :D

[BabyTurtles]

I know what people mean about Splinter though, wonder why the writers always group Leo with Splinter like that? Even in the 2003 series they did that a lot. It almost makes it seem likeLeo is his favorite LOL.

Most of all, like I said I'd like some more Leo / Donnie episodes :D

well....on the first Nick TMNT CD it says on Leo's bio that Leo is Splinter's favorite student.

favoritism!! XD

anyway...that's exactly why I don't want people to get grouped together!

[Leofan26]

well....on the first Nick TMNT CD it says on Leo's bio that Leo is Splinter's favorite student.

favoritism!! XD

anyway...that's exactly why I don't want people to get grouped together!

Oh HA, I think that have a lot in common so guess it'd make sense :P

I'm surprised no one gets jealous.

Yah, makes things a bit of a mess doesn't it? Casey's always with Raph. It's nice to see him with Donnie a bit now but, please include the others. I don't think Leo's ever really had much interactions with him :(

Now, let's split April up too.

[BabyTurtles]

Oh HA, I think that have a lot in common so guess it'd make sense :P

I'm surprised no one gets jealous.

Yah, makes things a bit of a mess doesn't it? Casey's always with Raph. It's nice to see him with Donnie a bit now but, please include the others. I don't think Leo's ever really had much interactions with him :(

Now, let's split April up too.

I guess no one gets jealous cause they aren't trying to impress Splinter like Leo is.

Mikey doesn't really care too much about training...he just wants to have fun.
Donnie would rather work on his toys
and Raph just wants to beat bad guys up.

Leo's pretty much the only one that wants to be a proper ninja....which is probably why Splinter is happier to train him.

but....I think that's an easy way out for Splinter.....Splinter should try harder to reach out to the boys that need more discipline not to the one that is already is.

[Leofan26]

I guess no one gets jealous cause they aren't trying to impress Splinter like Leo is.

Mikey doesn't really care too much about training...he just wants to have fun.
Donnie would rather work on his toys
and Raph just wants to beat bad guys up.

Leo's pretty much the only one that wants to be a proper ninja....which is probably why Splinter is happier to train him.

but....I think that's an easy way out for Splinter.....Splinter should try harder to reach out to the boys that need more discipline not to the one that is already is.

He needs to reach out more to Raph, he knows about his anger issues and relationship problems he has with Leo, you think he'd want to help fix that :lol:

Mikey, err um I don't think I need to explain this one. He's like a hyper active kid, needs help to focus on things.

I wonder why Splinter doesn't think about thisXD

[BabyTurtles]

He needs to reach out more to Raph, he knows about his anger issues and relationship problems he has with Leo, you think he'd want to help fix that :lol:

Mikey, err um I don't think I need to explain this one. He's like a hyper active kid, needs help to focus on things.

I wonder why Splinter doesn't think about thisXD

I don't know!!! :x

maybe he thinks it's a lost cause :D

the other 3 are a little harder to get through to....

I mean he taught Donnie to stop trying to be so obsessed with April!
and what does Donnie do the next episode? XD he stalks her.....

Splinter is probably hoping by teaching Leo...his example will rub off on the other 3 XDD

[Leofan26]

I don't know!!! :x

maybe he thinks it's a lost cause :D

the other 3 are a little harder to get through to....

I mean he taught Donnie to stop trying to be so obsessed with April!
and what does Donnie do the next episode? XD he stalks her.....

Splinter is probably hoping by teaching Leo...his example will rub off on the other 3 XDD

That'd be nice, this series the turtles have trouble trying to listen to Leo though :(

I wonder when this will be fixed? That's why I think this Tiger Claw plot will help Leo evolve, which would be a nice way to do it :D

Am I looking too much into this?

I don't think any versions of the turtles worked with this idea, between the other turtles and Splinter.

[BabyTurtles]

That'd be nice, this series the turtles have trouble trying to listen to Leo though :(

I wonder when this will be fixed? That's why I think this Tiger Claw plot will help Leo evolve, which would be a nice way to do it :D

Am I looking too much into this?

I don't think any versions of the turtles worked with this idea, between the other turtles and Splinter.

I don't think they should wait for Leo to evolve as a better Leader...they all need to be growing as a team together. Splinter needs to step it up as a teacher XD

the other 3 need their own problems to solve.....their own important arcs...Something they can bring to the story to help not only move a plot...but help them grow.

Leo has Karai's plot...
Donnie has the mutagen cure plot..

Raph and Mikey need their own for some development....:ohwell:

[Leofan26]

I don't think they should wait for Leo to evolve as a better Leader...they all need to be growing as a team together. Splinter needs to step it up as a teacher XD

the other 3 need their own problems to solve.....their own important arcs...Something they can bring to the story to help not only move a plot...but help them grow.

Leo has Karai's plot...
Donnie has the mutagen cure plot..

Raph and Mikey need their own for some development....:ohwell:

They should all have plots yes, Leo needs a plot to become a better leader / swords man ( Shredder / Karai / Hopefully Tiger Claw ). Donnie has a good plot for him.

Yah, Mikey / Raph kind of have the short end of the stick here with this. Mikey more so than Raph, at least that guy has Casey to hang with now and his rivalry sort of with Leo. What's Mikey getting? He's not even becoming a better fighter like the writers promised us :oops:

Honestly, I think 2012 Mikey's humor happens at the worse times too. I can't tell what did a worse job writing Mikey, 2003 version or 2012.

[BabyTurtles]

They should all have plots yes, Leo needs a plot to become a better leader / swords man ( Shredder / Karai / Hopefully Tiger Claw ). Donnie has a good plot for him.

Yah, Mikey / Raph kind of have the short end of the stick here with this. Mikey more so than Raph, at least that guy has Casey to hang with now and his rivalry sort of with Leo. What's Mikey getting? He's not even becoming a better fighter like the writers promised us :oops:

Honestly, I think 2012 Mikey's humor happens at the worse times too. I can't tell what did a worse job writing Mikey, 2003 version or 2012.

maybe season 3 will be the season of Mikey......MAYBE he'll have an unexpected plot like Beast Boy did? XDD.......doubt it though......the only development he'll have this season will probably be fighting that giant pizza :cry:

between 2003 Mikey and 2012 Mikey.....

2012 Mikey is cuter...and you'd be surprised how many times I overlook all the stupid things he's done because of that XD

....I feel better...I needed to vent.

[kolaida]

I hope season 3 is the season of Mikey! At least, I hope we get to see him grow some. Maybe we will before season 2 is up. Or maybe Donnie will figure out a why to get some ADHD medicine to him or something along those lines- or Focus Factor pills. :tgrin: When he's focused, he is good!

Anyway, as for groupings, I like the groupings!! Especially when they are paired off (the turtles anyway). I'd like to see a little of all the turtles paired up working with each other at some point. Of course, I'm like them as a whole group, too. It's fun both ways for me. At this point, I'd like to see more done with Mikey. I know more stuff will be done with Leo, which is fine, Leo and Donnie are usually my faves, anyway. Though, in this series, I'm liking Raph the best-- but I do like Mikey and wanna see more-- and, hmm, I actually really like the Raph/Mikey moments when we have them. Though, we seem to Mikey hanging with Don mostly.

Sorry, rambling....