Dogpound VS Rahzar [Archive] - The Technodrome Forums

ShredderX633

03-08-2014, 02:24 AM

I'm I the only one who honestly is very sad and missed Dogpound ever since Mikey Gets Shellacne? It's great to have a new character, but the idea of losing such a fun and original character just to make a nod to the vintage is just sad. Now everyone will probably forget about Dogpound and forget all the good times with him. Let me know what you think about this. Do ya miss the tough and buff pooch or do you prefer the nocturnal predator?

Eiko

03-08-2014, 02:27 AM

Yes I do. I really didn't see a point to changing him to Rahzar I thought he was cool as Dogpound.

ShredderX633

03-08-2014, 02:29 AM

Yes I do. I really didn't see a point to changing him to Rahzar I thought he was cool as Dogpound.

Thank you and now you are officially my new friend. I honestly thought I was alone with him being Rahzar made me miss Dogpound. Thanks for being honest about this.

Powder

03-08-2014, 02:39 AM

I absolutely love Rahzar & his design but yeah I do miss Dogpound. He & Fishface were one of my absolute favorite aspects of the show. But it's all good, there's always the older episodes & comics that feature him.

Jester

03-08-2014, 02:42 AM

Am I the only one that misses Chris Bradford's original design?

Candy Kappa

03-08-2014, 04:59 AM

Am I the only one that misses Chris Bradford's original design?

Not at all, Chris was awesome looking. At least with the new Razhar form he'll be able to do more ninjas stuff, but... I miss Radbrad.

Did not care for Dogpound's design.

Shark_Blade

03-08-2014, 06:20 AM

I don't mind, it's still him underneath all that. The voice actor is great.

TurFlytle

03-08-2014, 07:23 AM

Am I the only one that misses Chris Bradford's original design?

Nope, I missed him back when he was Chuck Norris's twin brother.

CyberCubed

03-08-2014, 08:18 AM

Dogpound was an ugly, stupid and clumsy design. I think the writers realized this halfway through Season 1, and since a dog and a wolf aren't that far apart, changing him to Rahzar made a lot more sense.

I don't think Fishface will change since his design is a lot more distinct.

Metalwolf

03-08-2014, 08:50 AM

I don't mind, it's still him underneath all that. The voice actor is great.Although it would be cool seeing more of his 'Bradford' side then just what makes him 'Rahzar.'

We got to see plenty of times that Splinter is still Hamato Yoshi, so why not the same for this other guy?

LeotheLateBloomer

03-08-2014, 09:29 AM

Am I the only one that misses Chris Bradford's original design?

No, I actually liked Chris Bradford more than both Dogpound and Rahzar. It was great to finally have another ninja enemy for the turtles to fight. While I do like this version of Rahzar, I really took a liking to Chris. And Xever because in all honesty, I do not like Fishface.

Candy Kappa

03-08-2014, 09:39 AM

I miss Xever's human form too, his fighting style looks a bit clunky when he is Fishface.

MCLeo28

03-08-2014, 09:50 AM

I personally prefer Rahzar due to the development leading towards him and finally attaining a body close to what he was prior to his mutations.

Of course, since I've heard of the Rahzar nerf (I haven't watched The Manhattan Project yet), then I don't know.

CyberCubed

03-08-2014, 10:19 AM

I miss Xever's human form too, his fighting style looks a bit clunky when he is Fishface.

Xever's human design looked rather generic. Just looked like a dark skinned Brazillian.

Gabriel GP

03-08-2014, 10:34 AM

Xever's human design looked rather generic. Just looked like a dark skinned Brazillian.

NO, I can surely say that his design has nothing even close to brazilian. Not even the accent has something a like.

And just to clarify, we aren't all black or indigenous :lol:

Pagong

03-08-2014, 10:52 AM

I prefer rahzar because atleast now he can act and move more ninja with his new body unlike when he was dogpound... I miss it though.

TurFlytle

03-08-2014, 12:33 PM

While Rahzar's skinny, skeletal werewolf design is cool, I kinda miss the big, bulky Dogpound.

Donatello19

03-08-2014, 12:40 PM

It's still him, just a different form/design. I like Rahzar a lot better, Dogpound seemed a lot more silly than threatening, but he was fun to watch, still.

CyberCubed

03-08-2014, 06:56 PM

Dogpound looked really silly. I honestly couldn't take him seriously.

Donatello19

03-08-2014, 06:58 PM

Let's compare:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130425004457/tmnt2012series/images/b/b3/Bradford.png http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131221011955/tmnt2012series/images/b/b0/Rahzar_1.png

Dogpound has some pros...I like that he's muscular and I like that he still has some of his original armor on...but let's face it, Rahzar look a lot cooler.

CyberCubed

03-08-2014, 07:07 PM

Dogpound looked kinda odd when he was just standing around and talking.

TurFlytle

03-08-2014, 07:20 PM

blindturtle02

03-08-2014, 07:20 PM

I'd have to say it's a tossup between Rahzar and CB's original design. From all the descriptions I've gathered, digging the original design but really lovin Rahzar so far. Ya never know. Guy could get demutated some day and become his old twin of Chuck Norris self. I'd love to see some backstory on this guy too, btw. I agree with Shark_Blade concerning Clancy Brown's awesome voicework. Glad he's a part of TMNT 2012.

TurFlytle

03-08-2014, 07:25 PM

I'd have to say it's a tossup between Rahzar and CB's original design. From all the descriptions I've gathered, digging the original design but really lovin Rahzar so far. Ya never know. Guy could get demutated some day and become his old twin of Chuck Norris self. I'd love to see some backstory on this guy too, btw.

If he got demutated, wouldn't he be naked since mutating into Rahzar made him lose his pants?

blindturtle02

03-08-2014, 07:31 PM

If he got demutated, wouldn't he be naked since mutating into Rahzar made him lose his pants?

Aaah! Please no naked Bradford action figure, Playmates! haha Well, let's hope he's... in a bathroom or something with a stall when or if that happens. Hmm, good point btw. Someone's gotta have a pair of pants handy. It'll probably be that guy who comes to clean Saki's hq three days a week, Dale X. McInerney.

TurFlytle

03-08-2014, 11:42 PM

It'll probably be that guy who comes to clean Saki's hq three days a week, Dale X. McInerney.

Oh, I remember him from the episode that never existed. :trazz:

Huzzah

03-11-2014, 07:04 PM

McInerey was in a deleted scene, from the Manhattan Project episodes...

Sewer Sirens Podcast

03-11-2014, 07:26 PM

Yeah, I miss Chris Bradford in his original form. And I think I may even miss Dogpound, with his huge menacing bulky figure. But I actually really liked the transition from Dogpound to Rahzar. Totally didn't expect it. I like his new body, but I'm not exactly in love with it yet. So I'm going to let this character grow on me, and see where he ends up.

There's been characters I've liked even less in this show (Casey and Irma) that ended up really growing on me (still working on Irma), so I'm excited to see Rahzar's potential. And as someone already pointed out, he's still the same guy. Same personality.

MisfitKraang

03-22-2014, 10:41 PM

I love both designs they are both unique, I wish they would have kept the Dogpound design and kept them as separate characters or something I'd still want to see Rahzar his designs is amazing:D

Zachatello00

03-22-2014, 11:04 PM

Shredder evidently liked the Dogpound version of Bradford better. He remarked in the Manhatten Project that Bradford looked terrible.

The thing I can't get used to is seeing Rahzar without Tokka. It would be like having Bebop but not Rocksteady. It doesn't make sense to me.

nintendo2600

03-26-2014, 11:19 PM

I liked Dogpound it was fresh and new, played out Rahzar in the 90's.

MikeandRaph87

03-26-2014, 11:32 PM

Not at all, Chris was awesome looking. At least with the new Razhar form he'll be able to do more ninjas stuff, but... I miss Radbrad.

Did not care for Dogpound's design.

Exactly. He can do so much more as a human than a mutant.He is not as rad as a dog mutant but atleast he can perform ninjsitsu in the more limber form he is currently in.

Zachatello,its Razhar in name only so its not like Razhar is causing havoc without his little buddy,Tokka.

CyberCubed

03-27-2014, 12:11 AM

Zachatello,its Razhar in name only so its not like Razhar is causing havoc without his little buddy,Tokka.

It's not just Rahzar in name-only, it IS Rahzar. Nick's version of him is redesigned but so is every character on this show, many who look drastically different like The Rat King and so forth.

AT-Man

03-27-2014, 09:40 AM

Rahzar looks like a zombie, that thing shouldn't be alive. I liked Dogpound more.

Metalwolf

03-27-2014, 04:57 PM

It's not just Rahzar in name-only, it IS Rahzar. Nick's version of him is redesigned but so is every character on this show, many who look drastically different like The Rat King and so forth.Well, in a way every 'Rahzar' is name only. They aren't the same person/creature, but they end up being in that role in their respective 'universe.' In the OT, there would be a Rahzar, but there would also be a un-mutated Chris Bradford. He never becomes Rahzar, there's a wolf that does that instead. In the Nick 'universe,' it's Chris that gets changed, but a wolf (who in other universes would have been mutated) is the one that's left normal.

It's like Splinter. In some shows he's Yoshi-turned mutant, and in others it's the rat that gets turned.

MST3KFan

03-28-2014, 04:01 PM

Maybe they'll do a Tokka nod it an episode where Rahzar and Slash team up to take on the turtles. IDW comics basically combined Tokka with Slash and that's what Slash kind of looks like in the Nick toon.

Sighphi

03-28-2014, 06:12 PM

Wolf zombie just looks like a wolf zombie.
At least Dpound looked like some mutated dog/human thing. He even had a mustache, that was the best part.

Bossa Nova

03-30-2014, 02:26 AM

I really like Rahzar's design, I'll give him that. But overall I like Dogpound more. He seemed to hold onto a bit more of his humanity while Rahzar feels like he's now shifted into embracing his new mutant form and we already have a lot of these mindless mutants running around. Dogpound just seemed like he had more potential for personal exploration and I wish we got to see more of it.

Though to be perfectly honest, I which Bradford has just stayed human. While his design was pretty obnoxious, I really liked him as the super famous martial arts guy working secretly for the Shredder. That could have really had some unique possibilities that I wish hadn't been thrown away so quickly. Hopefully Rahzar will start showing some more of that humanity that Dogpound did.

Metalwolf

03-30-2014, 09:14 AM

I really like Rahzar's design, I'll give him that. But overall I like Dogpound more. He seemed to hold onto a bit more of his humanity while Rahzar feels like he's now shifted into embracing his new mutant form and we already have a lot of these mindless mutants running around. Dogpound just seemed like he had more potential for personal exploration and I wish we got to see more of it.
Yes, I'd have to agree with you. I like his design too, but as Rahzar as he stands right now, he feels a bit... boring. He doesn't seem to have any drive towards anything, even into keeping his humanity. (I wouldn't want him to mope about being a mutant, but not have his humanity subsumed by being a mutant either.) I'm hoping that they do more with his character since it does seem like he has far more potential then just being one of Shredder's many lackeys. Especially as it says in Chris's bio that Shredder told him a lot of things that are majorly hush-hush, so I'm hoping that stuff wasn't just there for 'window dressing.'

Huzzah

03-30-2014, 09:45 PM

Well, in a way every 'Rahzar' is name only. They aren't the same person/creature, but they end up being in that role in their respective 'universe.' In the OT, there would be a Rahzar, but there would also be a un-mutated Chris Bradford. He never becomes Rahzar, there's a wolf that does that instead. In the Nick 'universe,' it's Chris that gets changed, but a wolf (who in other universes would have been mutated) is the one that's left normal.

It's like Splinter. In some shows he's Yoshi-turned mutant, and in others it's the rat that gets turned.

The OT Rahzar...such a well spoken individual...Tokka was his only friend...

Coola Yagami

03-30-2014, 10:05 PM

It's not just Rahzar in name-only, it IS Rahzar. Nick's version of him is redesigned but so is every character on this show, many who look drastically different like The Rat King and so forth.

Wow dude... usually you're so much smarter than this when it comes to your TMNT trivia. Rahzar was almost a mutant wolf, either smart or a baby, but a mutated wolf. He was never a martial arts celeb that turned into a dog and then got double-dunked and turned into a wolf. For all we know he might get triple dunked and become something else in season 3.

CyberCubed

03-30-2014, 10:08 PM

Wow dude... usually you're so much smarter than this when it comes to your TMNT trivia. Rahzar was almost a mutant wolf, either smart or a baby, but a mutated wolf. He was never a martial arts celeb that turned into a dog and then got double-dunked and turned into a wolf. For all we know he might get triple dunked and become something else in season 3.

It doesn't matter if they changed his backstory, he's Rahzar.

It's not like how Kirby-bat was called "Wingnut" as a joke. Rahzar is the character.

Coola Yagami

03-30-2014, 10:10 PM

It doesn't matter if they changed his backstory, he's Rahzar.

It's not like how Kirby-bat was called "Wingnut" as a joke. Rahzar is the character.

Until he becomes something else....

Huzzah

03-30-2014, 10:14 PM

I'm just waiting for Fish-Face to get a secondary mutation into Armaggon...I mean dog into wolf...fish into shark. That's how that works right? The mutant who gets a secondary mutations turns into a more vicious version, right?

Just to clarify I say that in jest...