Rick and Morty

[d3m01iti0n]

Anybody watch this new show? Its hilarious. Its been on hiatus for a month but new episodes soon.

[Andrew NDB]

Anybody up on season 4? I didn't care for the dragon/talking cat one but pound for pound pretty good! And they finally did time travel.

[neatoman]

Yes, Rick and Morty is pretty great.

As for season 4:
Death Crystal episode was pretty funny, I liked how Morty ended up so obsessed that he didn't question wheter or the future was even worth the price, no matter how out of hand it got.
Rick getting mad that someone used his toilet was pretty great, the parts with Jerry and Morty were a bit lame but Summer's hook-ups was a good subplot.
Honestly kind of hate the Heist episode, it's all just the same joke about the heist movie formula over and over again, at least Vindicators derived its jokes from how the superhero genre tends to contrive conflict/drama in stupid ways (even if the punchlines were just pointless murders).
I know the Slutty Dragons episode gets a lot of hate but it's still pretty funny to me ("WE LIKE DOWN HERE CAUSE WE CAN **** WOOLLY MAMMOTHS!")
Time Travel Snakes, kinda has the same problem as Heist and Vindicators in that it's just an excuse to diss a genre, but at least the jokes hit much better and primarily being a Terminator parody helps the focus.

And I kinda want to deal with the show's attitude towards time travel on it's own. Dan Harmon has said he likes to avoid time travel because it's inherently confusing and the snake episode is clearly meant to illustrate that, but the thing is that it's really not as inherent as he thinks. The Terminator series as a whole is indeed confusing because the rules of what they can do cahnge from movie to movie, but the original isn't confusing at all, it's a straight timeloop. That's the problem with most bad time travel stories, inconsistant or ambigious rules. Rick and Morty can be excused because it's intentional for the sake of a joke but the criticism that it's inherent isn't a valid one. If you want to make a decent time travel story, just make it clear by creating a guide answering questions like:

Can the past be changed?
Is there only one timeline or many?
How does the time travel impact the traveller?

Just add as many questions as you can think of and you should be fine.

[sdp]

Hype for this show seems to have completely died, I didn't even know there was a new season until it showed up on Netflix, no one is talking about it after the fad that came during season 3. Overall I think these 5 episodes were similar to season 3 where they're ok, but they lack the charm of the first two seasons.

They try a bit too hard with the "look how random we are", and it's no longer as amusing, in the past they played with certain themes which I feel isn't done as much. Still had fun watching them but this isn't the show I fell in love with those first two seasons.

[IMJ]

Hype for this show seems to have completely died, I didn't even know there was a new season until it showed up on Netflix, no one is talking about it after the fad that came during season 3. Overall I think these 5 episodes were similar to season 3 where they're ok, but they lack the charm of the first two seasons.

They try a bit too hard with the "look how random we are", and it's no longer as amusing, in the past they played with certain themes which I feel isn't done as much. Still had fun watching them but this isn't the show I fell in love with those first two seasons.


I knew this show had a crazy following but I've never seen it.
I did not know that it was on Netflix.

Maybe I'll check it out. I know that the Rick and Morty comic book has decent aftermarket legs, which is crazy.

[Andrew NDB]

The latest episode of season 5 (episode 4)... was it just me? The first 4 episodes of this season were fantastic but this was... mostly just gross and unfunny? This had to be a different writer or writing team.

[neatoman]

The latest episode of season 5 (episode 4)... was it just me? The first 4 episodes of this season were fantastic but this was... mostly just gross and unfunny? This had to be a different writer or writing team.

Dircted by Erica Hayes and written by Nick Rutherford.

Hayes directed the season 4 premiere, the story train episode and the season 4 finale. So I don't think it's her, those are actaully pretty good episodes.

Rutherford has no previous involvement with this show. He's primarily a writer for Dream Corp LLC, something I have never watched myself but you can probably go watch that show to see if it gives you similar vibes.

As for me, it's certainly one of the less clever episodes of the series thus far. It can effectively be summed up as "Semen is gross, incest is gross, sex with horses is gross, Las Vegas is gross and also cannibalism". Maybe the revelation that the cool action hero is a total loser would have been funny but they put way too much emphasis on how cool he seems and his failure to live up to his image is dragged out way too long.

Oh and about the leak:
Yes, there is a semi-direct sequel to this episode. The incest baby returns and Summer names him Naruto.

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently even TPTB agree it sucked.

https://decider.com/2021/07/13/rick-and-morty-season-5-episode-4-disgusting-and-tasteless/

It honestly felt like someone writing Rick & Morty that had never actually watched any Rick & Morty. Like maybe they read a description somewhere. None of the characters sound like themselves.

And "let's Nancy Reagan this bi**h!" Who has ever talked like this on the show? And I'm 40 and I don't get it. Is it some reference to Nancy taking care of Reagan when he was dying of alzheimers or something?

[sdp]

Im watching season 5 on HBO Max, it's weird actually hearing the characters cuss, I think I prefer it when it's bleeped. This season is the best since season 2. 3 and 4 were awful, especially 4 the show felt like a parody of itself.

[neatoman]

Some of the censorship bleeps are weird in Rick and Morty. Sh*t is frequently unbleeped but "Eat butt" was bleeped.

[Andrew NDB]

This last week's episode with the Thanksgiving/turkey business... on paper the plot seems like a great Rick & Morty adventure... but in execution everyone is talking again like they did in the incest baby/horse people episode. Must be the same guest writers again. It wasn't a BAD episode but I didn't find myself chuckling once.

[ZariusTwo]

So this latest episode reveals that

Every Beth we've seen has never been the original, who's been dead since the show started

[Coola Yagami]

So this latest episode reveals that

Every Beth we've seen has never been the original, who's been dead since the show started

what in the flying ****???????????????


So like.... why keep humoring her? Or the family?

[ProphetofGanja]

So this latest episode reveals that

Every Beth we've seen has never been the original, who's been dead since the show started

Yeah that bit was crazy and they really just threw it out there all casual-like…

[neatoman]

what in the flying ****???????????????


So like.... why keep humoring her? Or the family?

Rick is very depressed and tries to find some kind of meaningful bond. Technically it is correct that she really isn't more special to him than any other version, but it is also clear that he tries to make work and he can't do that if he just leaves or even just neglects to keep her happy. There is a reason he called the dimension hopping an "emergency solution" back in season 1 (aside from the obvious hint that it would be boring for the audience), how does he know if anything he tried worked if he just got out of dodge all the time? It's really not that hard for me to wrap my head around.

What's a little harder for me to swallow is that he treats this version of Birdperson as the same one he fought alongside when he clearly can't be the same one, even if this Birdperson had a similar history with Rick it can't be exactly the same because of the differences. But we are still meant to think it's interchangeable?

[Andrew NDB]

Mostly I was surprised/disappointed that this episode pretty clearly throws out the theory that Rick might be Morty as an old man.

[neatoman]

So I'm guessing Morty is one of the clones inserted into the family by the Citadel, rather than from a reality where he came about naturally?

[neatoman]

Alright, anyone care to explain how Rick's "fake" backstory and his real backstory can be almost identical aside from when he went after the other Rick? Rick was able to escape his own brain at the start of season 3 because the backstory there was stated to not be a memory and was actually totally fabricated. Yet according to the season 5 finale, it looked pretty much the same aside from Rick waiting to start his search. I thought, because it was muted, it was going to turn out that there were a lot of detail differences while only the broad strokes were accurate, as to allow for it to be at least largely fabricated. But the season 6 premiere pretty much confirms there aren't any significant differences, so what the hell?

[ProphetofGanja]

Alright, anyone care to explain how Rick's "fake" backstory and his real backstory can be almost identical aside from when he went after the other Rick? Rick was able to escape his own brain at the start of season 3 because the backstory there was stated to not be a memory and was actually totally fabricated. Yet according to the season 5 finale, it looked pretty much the same aside from Rick waiting to start his search. I thought, because it was muted, it was going to turn out that there were a lot of detail differences while only the broad strokes were accurate, as to allow for it to be at least largely fabricated. But the season 6 premiere pretty much confirms there aren't any significant differences, so what the hell?

https://y.yarn.co/9657326a-aa9e-4e88-adaf-17ca50833e22_text.gif

In reality I think there is an in-universe explanation but I'm just too tired to think of one right now.

Or maybe I'm wrong and you just spotted a major continuity error. I myself have been wondering what's the deal with Rick's passion for his Pirates of the Pancreas ride in the Anatomy Park episode when he is allegedly deathly afraid of pirates as seen in the episode where he beefs with the President.

[Bahamut810]

Alright, anyone care to explain how Rick's "fake" backstory and his real backstory can be almost identical aside from when he went after the other Rick? Rick was able to escape his own brain at the start of season 3 because the backstory there was stated to not be a memory and was actually totally fabricated. Yet according to the season 5 finale, it looked pretty much the same aside from Rick waiting to start his search. I thought, because it was muted, it was going to turn out that there were a lot of detail differences while only the broad strokes were accurate, as to allow for it to be at least largely fabricated. But the season 6 premiere pretty much confirms there aren't any significant differences, so what the hell?

I dont know for sure, but it was probably a way to get people talking about the history and will be explained (if it ever is) that that moment was so ingrained into his memory it was easy to recreate over the Shoney's and just change the one detail he needed changed.

That is essentially what happened though, he was able to control the environment around Shoney's, so he changed it to what they wanted to see which was that moment.

[neatoman]

So what do you think of the season so far? Episode 2 and 4 were decent but episode 1 had to deal with the nonsense from the sesason 5 finale and episode 3 was just really awkward to watch.

[Cowabung-Gal]

“It’s like a love scene with all the same faces.”
:o

[ProphetofGanja]

So what do you think of the season so far? Episode 2 and 4 were decent but episode 1 had to deal with the nonsense from the sesason 5 finale and episode 3 was just really awkward to watch.

I've liked all the episodes from S6 so far; I think it's shaping up to be better than S5 IMO.

Are you not a fan of all the on-going canon stuff, the S5 finale and S6 opener?

[neatoman]

I've liked all the episodes from S6 so far; I think it's shaping up to be better than S5 IMO.

Are you not a fan of all the on-going canon stuff, the S5 finale and S6 opener?

I'm not a fan of the exact direction they went, not necessarily the concept of having an ongoing story. It's creating contradictions in trying to make sense of the context clues, which is just bizarre. The problem is that the choice to canonise Rick's backstory from the season 3 premiere makes no sense because it was explicitly fake and had to be fake in order to move the plot along. It's a bunch of little things like that which just annoys me about this, if you want to have a serious plot, at least bother to have it make sense, don't just contradict things because it's more dramatic.

[Andrew NDB]

I've been pretty pleased, overall with this season so far. I'm not always laughing hysterically but it's always interesting. Last season had a ton of stinkers.

[ProphetofGanja]

I'm not a fan of the exact direction they went, not necessarily the concept of having an ongoing story. It's creating contradictions in trying to make sense of the context clues, which is just bizarre. The problem is that the choice to canonise Rick's backstory from the season 3 premiere makes no sense because it was explicitly fake and had to be fake in order to move the plot along. It's a bunch of little things like that which just annoys me about this, if you want to have a serious plot, at least bother to have it make sense, don't just contradict things because it's more dramatic.

I'll admit I am curious as to whether the writing team is just waiting to reveal the truth about these so-called inconsistencies and it's just a matter of our understanding of the story being wrong, or if there really just have been some balls dropped regarding continuity and these are just little, unintended continuity errors with no good way to explain other than just human error

In any case though they're pretty minor to me and I'm enjoying the show more than last season. This week's Rick and Jerry episode should be funny

[neatoman]

Alright, we're four episode in and I don't think we've seen any of the real clips in the intro yet, so I guess we're about due.

So, which ones are real?

[ProphetofGanja]

Alright, we're four episode in and I don't think we've seen any of the real clips in the intro yet, so I guess we're about due.

So, which ones are real?

Ok I'm gonna guess

Rick & Summer wingsuiting away from a giant flying squirrel: real
Rick & Morty meeting Jack the Ripper: fake
Whole family (with Space Beth) parade scene: fake
Mech-suit Jerry: real (maybe even from the episode coming out later this week)
Melting Butter Morty: fake

[neatoman]

I would say Jerry in the space suit is the most likely candidate to be real. Generally the real clips will be animated more stiffly and not really be that funny because they're just ripped from actual scenes with no clear context, while the fake clips are amusing on their own. The real clips tend to also have some sign of being cut off, like they're meant to to go on for longer.

I think the most obvious case of a real clip the show ever used was Story Lord punching Rick in the face, it makes absolutely no sense out of context.

[ProphetofGanja]

Now I'm curious about the rest of this season's episodes based on their titles

From Wikipedia:
Later episodes are titled "Juricksic Mort", "Ricktional Mortpoon's Rickmas Mortcation", "Full Meta Jackrick", "A Rick in King Mortur's Mort", and "Analyze Piss".

I would've thought they considered spoofing Jurassic Park done, since they basically did the same shtick with the Anatomy Park episode

I'm wondering what "Analyze Piss" is about since it's one of the few episode titles to not follow their usual convention of shoehorning in a family member's name

[neatoman]

From my understanding, they'll be spoofing the "Extinct animals come back" aspect of JP this time, not the "Attempt to open a scientifically implausible theme park full of monsters" aspect like in Anatomy Park.

[oldmanwinters]

Huh, apparently Wendys was offering exclusive UberEats deals this month:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ooh-wee-wendys-teams-up-with-rick-and-morty-on-limited-edition-show-themed-drinks-and-combo-meals-exclusively-on-uber-eats-301617173.html

I guess you can still get the drinks?
http://i.imgur.com/1tgYRJ8h.jpg (https://imgur.com/1tgYRJ8)

[ProphetofGanja]

Well I thought that was a pretty funny episode and I really had no idea what to expect based on the very spare preview from last week. Seems they're being pretty cagey with next week's episode too

From my understanding, they'll be spoofing the "Extinct animals come back" aspect of JP this time, not the "Attempt to open a scientifically implausible theme park full of monsters" aspect like in Anatomy Park.

I wonder if Rick will comment on how while they've already parodied the vibe of Jurassic Park they're now spoofing it's actual premise

[neatoman]

aNvsF1jToJQ

And yes, this does seem familiar...

Y9nJdfNlZFs

[ProphetofGanja]

LMAO I hadn't seen that yet.

It does feel similar, if anything like a utopian version of wondering what humanity would do under a regime change that significantly changed their society.

What will be very different is the Smith family's reaction, I think

[neatoman]

There are also a few similarities in the details as well, such as Beth drinking wine and being annoyed that her job as a horse surgeon is now obsolete, as well as Summer's irritation that she can't make money and Morty's general apathy to the situation. I think the main difference is that Rick is present instead of Jerry, though he takes on a similar role by being amused by the concept of Earth having been conquered like this and it having no impact on his life. Beyond that, I guess the Federation is (kind of) more "explicitly" evil while the Dinos need to be expunged by the end of the episode may be more of a twist.

[Andrew NDB]

So the season was fine, in all. None of them I can point to and say was bad, outright. I couldn't say that about a lot of the episodes in the last couple of seasons. That said, none of these was great.

Oh, and look. Justin Roiland is in trouble for beating up his significant other:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/rick-mortys-roiland-facing-charges/

[ZariusTwo]

Adult Swim have cut all ties with him

https://twitter.com/RickandMorty/status/1618009508420386817

[ProphetofGanja]

Wow I thought he was being dropped because of the creepy grooming-esque messages with minors, I hadn't heard anything about domestic abuse

[Andrew NDB]

Apparently -- allegedly -- he struck an ex so hard she needed medical attention in 2020 and also wouldn't let her leave. So far he hasn't been found guilty of anything. So this is less "we know he did this horrible thing" and more Adult Swim not wanting to deal with the backlash of keeping him on in the mean time.

Still, yeesh. Rick and Morty, RIP. This is not like recasting the voice of Homer Simpson. This is removing a big part of the creative nerve center.

[ProphetofGanja]

Yeah I know he's still due his day in court so I'm curious to see what comes of that.

In any case it's unfortunate that he voices literally the main two characters plus multiple others at times

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah I know he's still due his day in court so I'm curious to see what comes of that.

In any case it's unfortunate that he voices literally the main two characters plus multiple others at times

But more than that, he's a huge part of the creative team and direction. I'm pretty sure you can find some fairly spot on Rick and Morty impersonators but if the show is going to feel and be written radically differently and if the show hasn't seen a strong season in several seasons now...?

It's curtains.

[Coola Yagami]

Wow I thought he was being dropped because of the creepy grooming-esque messages with minors, I hadn't heard anything about domestic abuse

what creepy grooming-esque messages to minors? examples?

[Andrew NDB]

what creepy grooming-esque messages to minors? examples?

This, I guess.

https://www.thegamer.com/justin-roiland-allegations-grooming-abuse-predatory/

[Xav]

But more than that, he's a huge part of the creative team and direction. I'm pretty sure you can find some fairly spot on Rick and Morty impersonators but if the show is going to feel and be written radically differently and if the show hasn't seen a strong season in several seasons now...?

It's curtains.How much was he still involved in the creative progress? He hasn't been credited in writing an episode since season 3.

[Bahamut810]

This, I guess.

https://www.thegamer.com/justin-roiland-allegations-grooming-abuse-predatory/

I have seen some more screenshots of things he supposedly said...during the #metoo era...that came out after this domestic abuse thing.

I am not saying wether it did or didn't happen but there was a perfect opportunity to "believe her" and nothing was said till it would be a good time to get on the social credit train.

[Coola Yagami]

Geez, you just can't win anymore. Either woke idiots ruin our old series, or people creating all new series turn out to be creeps and assholes.

To be honest, I'm glad Eastman and Laird are both decent people. Maybe Laird is grumpy at times, but he seems like a stand up dude.

[TigerClaw]

Geez, you just can't win anymore. Either woke idiots ruin our old series, or people creating all new series turn out to be creeps and assholes.

To be honest, I'm glad Eastman and Laird are both decent people. Maybe Laird is grumpy at times, but he seems like a stand up dude.
It sucks when people you admire and adore end up being horrible people in RL.

We are lucky that Kevin and Peter end up being two of the nicest people in the TMNT fandom, Unlike other fandoms who have people who done questionable things.

[Coola Yagami]

It sucks when people you admire and adore end up being horrible people in RL.

We are lucky that Kevin and Peter end up being two of the nicest people in the TMNT fandom, Unlike other fandoms who have people who done questionable things.

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't call the creator and voices of Rick and Morty someone I'd admire, but I like the show, the concept and the characters, and it sucks to find out he's a creepy asshole.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Welp, better throw my Rick and Morty shirt into the fireplace. It’s getting colder and we need the heat anyway.

[Andrew NDB]

I'd wait and see the court proceedings before burning any Rick and Morty T-shirts, folks. Some women out there do some f***ed up stuff when they're feeling particularly vindictive, as I can personally attest to.

How much was he still involved in the creative progress? He hasn't been credited in writing an episode since season 3.

He runs the writing room with Harmon, doesn't he?

[Coola Yagami]

I'd wait and see the court proceedings before burning any Rick and Morty T-shirts, folks. Some women out there do some f***ed up stuff when they're feeling particularly vindictive, as I can personally attest to.



He runs the writing room with Harmon, doesn't he?

Even if he's innocent of the domestic violence, what about his creepy texts towards underage fans?

[Cowabung-Gal]

I'd wait and see the court proceedings before burning any Rick and Morty T-shirts, folks. Some women out there do some f***ed up stuff when they're feeling particularly vindictive, as I can personally attest to.

Even if he's innocent of the domestic violence, what about his creepy texts towards underage fans?

Believe me, I despise #metoo liars just as much as you do, and this could be just another Amber Heard situation in regards to the domestic abuse case. However, the text messaging thing is pretty disturbing, and I cannot give Justin a pass just because he created Rick and Morty. Grooming cannot be tolerated no matter who is doing it.

If I end up being wrong, then I will admit that I was wrong. But until then, no more wearing Rick and Morty shirts in my house.

[ZariusTwo]

Now dropped from Solar Opposites and Koala Man

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/hulu-drops-justin-roiland-from-solar-opposites-1235309072/

[Andrew NDB]

Even if he's innocent of the domestic violence, what about his creepy texts towards underage fans?

Do we know that they're real? Because I can change a name in my phone and have a buddy send me a text as Joe Biden, right now, and produce a screenshot.

[Coola Yagami]

Do we know that they're real? Because I can change a name in my phone and have a buddy send me a text as Joe Biden, right now, and produce a screenshot.

Yeah but I mean, if it was Joe Biden doing that, chances are it was real LOL

"I'd like to smell your hair".

[Dpooly84]

Go to YouTube look up the legion of skanks reading the texts, they are a group of comedians; very raunchy and dirty stuff, but it was so funny. If he's a creep let him get what's coming to him but without context I will withhold judgement.

[ProphetofGanja]

Something I keep thinking about: the alleged incident occurred around three years ago. I wonder, did he really keep this to himself all that time? If he knew he was in the wrong, I could see that being the case. But if he felt like he was being wrongly prosecuted or something, he would probably confide in those he is close to. I'm just wondering if anyone else had this knowledge these three past years.

I dunno, the whole thing just makes me think about the whole "separating the art from the artist" debate

[member_removed]

I've never watched Rick and Morty.

But I've watched all of Solar Opposites, for which he is a credited co-creator and lead actor.

Looks like Hulu/Disney/21st century have finally made the decision to cut ties with Roiland as well.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/01/hulu-home-of-solar-opposites-and-koala-man-has-also-cut-ties-with-justin-roiland/

[Coola Yagami]

I've never watched Rick and Morty.

But I've watched all of Solar Opposites, for which he is a credited co-creator and lead actor.

Looks like Hulu/Disney/21st century have finally made the decision to cut ties with Roiland as well.

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2023/01/hulu-home-of-solar-opposites-and-koala-man-has-also-cut-ties-with-justin-roiland/

Everyone is cutting ties with him so fast, you think he voted for Trump and kissed JK Rowling.

[Andrew NDB]

Seems very hasty to me. Anyone anywhere can be accused of anything, anytime by anyone. By the time the next season of Rick and Morty and Solar Opposites come out we should know if he's guilty or innocent so couldn't we just wait for that? He needs to be fired, like immediately? Adult Swim and Hulu could just put up a statement -- if ANYTHING -- and just be like, "We are actively monitoring the situation with Mr. Roiland." If he's guilty? Fine, fired, right there and then. If they get sh** about "why are you guys working with a woman beater?" the answer is, "thank you for the question. The answer is that we don't know if he's guilty yet."

[Coola Yagami]

Seems very hasty to me. Anyone anywhere can be accused of anything, anytime by anyone. By the time the next season of Rick and Morty and Solar Opposites come out we should know if he's guilty or innocent.

B-b-but Andrew, he has to be guilty. The internet said so and he's the new woke target now.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Unbelievable Tales and House of Cosbys are still the best things Justin Roiland ever did.

[ProphetofGanja]

Seems very hasty to me. Anyone anywhere can be accused of anything, anytime by anyone. By the time the next season of Rick and Morty and Solar Opposites come out we should know if he's guilty or innocent.

I thought so too.

It made me wonder, if the allegations come out and it turns out that it was all blown out of proportion and his name is cleared then he could be hired back on, kinda like how James Gunn got to return to the director's chair for the last GotG installment even after he was CANCELLED for all those old tweets (which, to be fair, were all in like exceedingly poor taste, however I don't think any of it was ever criminal).

But it could definitely also be the case that he actually did whatever it is he's been accused of, well few people are gonna be sympathetic towards him

[Andrew NDB]

Interesting, if true:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/rick-morty-staffers-on-roiland-fallout/

Roiland hasn't been in the writers room at all in years and apparently hasn't even been on speaking terms with Dan Harmon also for years?

I thought so too.

It made me wonder, if the allegations come out and it turns out that it was all blown out of proportion and his name is cleared then he could be hired back on, kinda like how James Gunn got to return to the director's chair for the last GotG installment

It'd be different in the sense that they'd have to fire whoever they hire to replace Roiland in order to take him back. Which would be kinda sh**ty for the new guy(s).

[Coola Yagami]

I thought so too.

It made me wonder, if the allegations come out and it turns out that it was all blown out of proportion and his name is cleared then he could be hired back on, kinda like how James Gunn got to return to the director's chair for the last GotG installment even after he was CANCELLED for all those old tweets (which, to be fair, were all in like exceedingly poor taste, however I don't think any of it was ever criminal).

But it could definitely also be the case that he actually did whatever it is he's been accused of, well few people are gonna be sympathetic towards him

Always felt Gunn wasn't actually cancelled. Just pulled from the public eye for until they were safe to announce he's 'back'.

That's why it makes me angry when companies fire people for petty reasons to appease the woke mob. I'm always hoping the people weren't fired-fired and were just 'nudge nudge wink wink' fired to shut the mob up.

[Andrew NDB]

https://toonado.com/other/rick-and-morty-justin-roiland-faces-more-misconduct-allegations-including-bringing-adult-film-star-to-work-a7100

More.

But this sounds like bullsh**. What did he send? Exactly?

[ProphetofGanja]

Deff sounds like they are just emphasizing how the show will be able to continue on essentially unchanged aside from a change in voice actors by downplaying his creative input, which sounds legit to me

A more interesting thing to consider to me anyways is who will they recast with, and will they go with one or two people

https://media4.giphy.com/media/PTNxVgVrHLBHU7pvCC/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xq2uprls8h5vq6e1g86xg4eslrjp6 wzs2xidwx0w&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[Coola Yagami]

Deff sounds like they are just emphasizing how the show will be able to continue on essentially unchanged aside from a change in voice actors by downplaying his creative input, which sounds legit to me

A more interesting thing to consider to me anyways is who will they recast with, and will they go with one or two people

https://media4.giphy.com/media/PTNxVgVrHLBHU7pvCC/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952xq2uprls8h5vq6e1g86xg4eslrjp6 wzs2xidwx0w&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

So a reverse Ren and Stimpy. Jon K voiced Ren, got the boot, West then voiced both Ren and Stimpy. Would be funny if this time the guy that voiced both Rick and Morty gets replaced by two voice actors.

[neatoman]

The charges have been dropped. Not clear if he'll resume his acting though.
https://deadline.com/2023/03/justin-roiland-domestic-violence-dropped-rick-morty-star-adult-swim-orange-county-1235307424/

[Andrew NDB]

The charges have been dropped. Not clear if he'll resume his acting though.
https://deadline.com/2023/03/justin-roiland-domestic-violence-dropped-rick-morty-star-adult-swim-orange-county-1235307424/

Of course he will, and they better take him back.

[Cowabung-Gal]

What about the text messages he sent to those underage girls? I had a feeling that the domestic abuse charge was baloney, but I still can’t look past the fact that he’s possibly a predator.

[Andrew NDB]

What about the text messages he sent to those underage girls? I had a feeling that the domestic abuse charge was baloney, but I still can’t look past the fact that he’s possibly a predator.

Were any of those texts confirmed? I could manufacture some uncomfortable text messages to me from Jane Fonda right now if I wanted to.

[ZariusTwo]

All the other bits of gossip and testimonials from people who worked with him still paint a telling tale of his character conduct. It'll be like what it is with Noel Clark from Doctor Who, he'll never get meaningful work again either because there's too many inside stories of him being toxic.

And what would be the point of coming back? Rick and Morty hasn't been funny in years.

[Coola Yagami]

What about the text messages he sent to those underage girls? I had a feeling that the domestic abuse charge was baloney, but I still can’t look past the fact that he’s possibly a predator.

Not sure if those texts are real or not but I know the woke mob will bring it up a million times if they do announce that he's coming back.

Plus it's 'cool' to hate Rick and Morty now so everyone kinda hops in the chance to trash it, wether the show itself or the actors.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Not sure if those texts are real or not but I know the woke mob will bring it up a million times if they do announce that he's coming back.

Plus it's 'cool' to hate Rick and Morty now so everyone kinda hops in the chance to trash it, wether the show itself or the actors.

I’m not following mob mentality here. I used to like Rick and Morty. It genuinely makes my blood boil at the possibility that Roiland could be a gr**mer. And not enough is being done to stop gr**mers. Wokies suddenly care now? Sure, because Roiland is a straight white male. Had he been anything else, they would’ve been like, “Pfff, so what?”

If the texts are in fact proven to be fake, I’ll admit I was wrong.

[Andrew NDB]

Uh oh, they've already named Roiland's replacement on Solar Opposites:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/stevens-replaces-roiland-on-solar-opposites/

And they're continuing to recast all of his parts on Rick and Morty. Just like that. Roiland wasn't convicted of any crime but is ruined.

[ProphetofGanja]

Yeah it's troubling that even when someone is exonerated their career is basically ruined because they've already been collectively "cancelled" and as we all know society rarely reverses a cancel.

SMH stupid mob mentality groupthink

[TheCanadiandrome]

So now news on a new season as of yet?

[neatoman]

Right... Season 7 sucks really hard so far and we're almost halfway through. Rick and Jerry having their minds shuffled was OK but the President hijacking Unity was not good, while the Spaghetti and Poopybutthole intervention episodes are easily contenders for the worst episodes in the entire show.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Right... Season 7 sucks really hard so far and we're almost halfway through. Rick and Jerry having their minds shuffled was OK but the President hijacking Unity was not good, while the Spaghetti and Poopybutthole intervention episodes are easily contenders for the worst episodes in the entire show.
Do we blame it on them not bringing back Justin Royland or piss poor writing?

[neatoman]

Do we blame it on them not bringing back Justin Royland or piss poor writing?

Hard to tell. If it is true that Roiland didn't do anything beyond voice work after season 2 (which I somewhat doubt is true), then it's really just the writing that has deteriorated, which isn't too much of a stretch considering the Sperm, Hellraiser, Voltron, Beth-cest, Piss, Sun Knights and Lightsaber episodes are just signs of declining writing before his departure. However, much of the Roiland's signature ideas seem less prevalent here, so his absence is somewhat noticed.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I think much is what was said about Roiland (thanks for the spell check lol) by the co-creater Dan Harmon, to me seems to be some bitterness over all of the allegations made against Roiland leading to his dismissal from the show. Almost as if Dan figured, hell I’ll add more fuel to the fire because I’m mad he left me high and dry by getting fired, so I’ll make it like I did all the work and he “phoned it in”

[ProphetofGanja]

Right... Season 7 sucks really hard so far and we're almost halfway through. Rick and Jerry having their minds shuffled was OK but the President hijacking Unity was not good, while the Spaghetti and Poopybutthole intervention episodes are easily contenders for the worst episodes in the entire show.

To each their own I guess! I thought the spaghetti-suicide episode felt too much like a philosophy course debate but I've been laughing a lot this season. The President was a *little* too... something; I'm not sure what. Immature? Played for comic relief? Like yes he has been funny in his previous appearances but the need for acceptance was a bit overdone. I did like the dynamic between Rick, Unity, and Dr. Wong though.

I really enjoyed the past three episodes and the episode coming debuting this weekend looks funny to me with how low the stakes are (listening to headphones in class??? For shame, Morty!!! LOL :lol:)

[Andrew NDB]

Almost as if Dan figured, hell I’ll add more fuel to the fire because I’m mad he left me high and dry by getting fired, so I’ll make it like I did all the work and he “phoned it in”

I think you're right, but there's every indication to indicate that Roiland did phone it all in in the last years. And it's not like Roiland is refuting any of this.

[neatoman]

To each their own I guess! I thought the spaghetti-suicide episode felt too much like a philosophy course debate but I've been laughing a lot this season. The President was a *little* too... something; I'm not sure what. Immature? Played for comic relief? Like yes he has been funny in his previous appearances but the need for acceptance was a bit overdone. I did like the dynamic between Rick, Unity, and Dr. Wong though.

I really enjoyed the past three episodes and the episode coming debuting this weekend looks funny to me with how low the stakes are (listening to headphones in class??? For shame, Morty!!! LOL :lol:)

And what about Rick killing his alternate self, Rocks revealing shameful secrets and Morty being turned into Kuato?

[TheCanadiandrome]

I think you're right, but there's every indication to indicate that Roiland did phone it all in in the last years. And it's not like Roiland is refuting any of this.

Dude my brain hurts lol, but you’re likely right

[ProphetofGanja]

And what about Rick killing his alternate self, Rick's revealing shameful secrets and Morty being turned into Kuato?

yes I remember those things

[LegionareX]

I've been a fan of Rick and Morty for a while now! It's totally off-the-wall funny. Can't wait for those new episodes to drop.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'll be curious to see how much longer this series lasts, i mean so far i'm diggin the new eps and the new VA's are growing on me

[Andrew NDB]

I'll be curious to see how much longer this series lasts

Well, we have some idea of the "floor." The show has 10 episode seasons, right? It was renewed for 70 episodes what, 3 seasons ago (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/arts/television/rick-and-morty-70-new-episodes.html#:~:text=Adult%20Swim%20announced%20T hursday%20that,in%20the%20show's%20three%20seasons .)? And season 7 is currently wrapping up? That accounts for 30 of the 70 episodes ordered -- so at least 4 more seasons are guaranteed, at this point.

[sdp]

the new voices are very good imitators but you can tell it's not them because of subtle differences which actually made the characters special.

In general the show hasn't been as good as the first two seasons. After that it's had its ups and downs. S3 was a downgrade and S4/5 were likely the worst so far and 6/7 are an improvement. Quality just hasn't been the same as the first two seasons though.

It was the best episode in the season, those who had a problem with it should just go ahead and unalive themselves

[Andrew NDB]

the new voices are very good imitators but you can tell it's not them because of subtle differences which actually made the characters special.

In general the show hasn't been as good as the first two seasons. After that it's had its ups and downs. S3 was a downgrade and S4/5 were likely the worst so far and 6/7 are an improvement. Quality just hasn't been the same as the first two seasons though.

I mean, you're not wrong. Season 3 wasn't terrible and there's been gems along the way but nothing consistently like the quality of season 1 and 2.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Well, we have some idea of the "floor." The show has 10 episode seasons, right? It was renewed for 70 episodes what, 3 seasons ago (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/arts/television/rick-and-morty-70-new-episodes.html#:~:text=Adult%20Swim%20announced%20T hursday%20that,in%20the%20show's%20three%20seasons .)? And season 7 is currently wrapping up? That accounts for 30 of the 70 episodes ordered -- so at least 4 more seasons are guaranteed, at this point.

oh my bad, i must've missed that. Thanks for sharing dude. 4 more seasons, awesome

[Andrew NDB]

Finally saw the first 3 or 4 episodes of the new season (was waiting for daughter to come around, didn't feel right without her). Wow... not bad! The one where Rick and Jerry pseudo-swapped brains and merged bodies was pretty brilliant. As was the episode about "Morty's Suicide Spagetti." This is pretty much gold. Way better than the last couple of seasons... so far!

[TheCanadiandrome]

Finally saw the first 3 or 4 episodes of the new season (was waiting for daughter to come around, didn't feel right without her). Wow... not bad! The one where Rick and Jerry pseudo-swapped brains and merged bodies was pretty brilliant. As was the episode about "Morty's Suicide Spagetti." This is pretty much gold. Way better than the last couple of seasons... so far!

Was interesting the episode “Morty's Suicide Spagetti“ and how it touched on suicide and then doing a PSA at the end. Some people of said it was very controversial

[ProphetofGanja]

The season finale was probably my favorite of the season

[Andrew NDB]

So it's back. The first episode of the eighth season came out this past Sunday. Anybody watching?

[neatoman]

Alright I think the season 8 finale... Sort of... Gave us an answer to how Rick's fake backstory was somehow also his real backstory. He states that the whole "wife killed in every reality" thing somehow also messes with the memories of people who knew her and as a result him and Beth "only think they remember her mom". I don't understand how that works though but I think it means the backstory he "faked" in season 3 and "remembered" in season 5 is the result of his mind trying to fill in the gap, hence it's still actually fake like originally stated but as close to remembering as he can?

[sdp]

I haven't watched it but I guess I'll be able to binge the entire season now. Still can't believe how quickly this show died, everyone was talking about it during Season 2/3/4 and now no one really cares. That pickle rick meme really was the peak of its popularity.

[Prowler]

I watched some episodes of this cartoon series during the pandemic. It was fine, really, but didn't feel like continuing. Similar case for Archer even though I did enjoy Archer more.

Bojack Horseman, however? Meh... Screw that. I tapped out after one single episode.

[Andrew NDB]

Well, we have some idea of the "floor." The show has 10 episode seasons, right? It was renewed for 70 episodes what, 3 seasons ago (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/10/arts/television/rick-and-morty-70-new-episodes.html#:~:text=Adult%20Swim%20announced%20T hursday%20that,in%20the%20show's%20three%20seasons .)? And season 7 is currently wrapping up? That accounts for 30 of the 70 episodes ordered -- so at least 4 more seasons are guaranteed, at this point.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/rick-and-morty-season-9-gets-a-trailer/

New trailer up for season 9. And I guess even with everything being solid through season 10 from that original 70 episode order back after season 3, another two seasons have already been greenlit. So it's a go through the end of season 12 now.

[neatoman]

Right, so... Evil Morty is more or less out of the picture and the "Destroy every version of someone" machine was completely destroyed... So... What's left?

[sdp]

I didn't even watch the last season and don't feel compelled to and might just be the time to tap out. Not because it's terrible just, too LCD for me. I'm guessing this R&M at this point is never going to be cancelled, it likely does well enough to keep it going forever like simpsons/family guy.

[Andrew NDB]

Right, so... Evil Morty is more or less out of the picture

Is he, though?

[Coola Yagami]

I'm not sure what the movie would even be about. They've faced the end of all existence several times by now i'm sure. What can they possibly do here? "This time the fate of all the multiverse depends on this!!! Even moreso! Than usual!"

[Andrew NDB]

I'm not sure what the movie would even be about.

There'd have to be a live action element, right? They step through the portal and are played by actors.

[neatoman]

Is he, though?

I mean, he's in prison and everyone hates him, he might break out but for now at least he can't just show up at any moment.