Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal

[LeotheLateBloomer]

The new Sailor Moon anime will be called "Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal". The first image of the show is revealed and there is an eight day countdown for a surprise.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-13/2014-new-sailor-moon-crystal-anime-1st-image-story-intro-posted-online

[TMNT_Guy]

It's still disappointing to see they retconed the team name from "Sailor Soldiers" to "Sailor Guardians". Yeah, I know it's been over ten years since the retcon, but I just got into Sailor Moon last year. It's still new to me.

More and more it looks like this anime will be based more on the manga, which is good and bad. I liked the manga because it explained things that the anime never did, like "How are Usagi and Mamoru still alive in the 30th century?" or "Why does everyone in the future call Chibiusa "Small Lady"?".

The manga itself though...was very boring. Everything is taken extremely seriously in the book, that sense of comradely from the anime is hardly anywhere to be found, Raye(Sailor Mars) is a completely different character in the manga. I don't know, everything I loved from the anime is nowhere to be found in the manga. I hope they combine elements from the manga and anime in this. It would be a shame not to see Umino and Naru get together again, or to never see Yuichirou or Ryo Urawa again.

If they do take more from the manga, I hope they take allot from the prequel manga Sailor V. Sailor V was a lot of fun, and instantly put Sailor Venus on my "Top Three Favorite Sailor Soldiers/Guardians List".

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah but you have to understand that this is based on the manga. They're trying to differentiate from the first anime which strayed a bit from the original concept. Although, I never understood why they changed the name from "Soldier" to "Guardian". I believe the first anime was "Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon" and the live-action series was "Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon". This one is "Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon Crystal". I'm assuming Naoko preferred the live-action show's title better. The rereleases of the original manga started carrying that name.

[TMNT_Guy]

Yeah, I suppose. I hope they at least keep Sailor Mar's personality from the anime in the new series. The banter between her and Sailor Moon was one of the more interesting parts of the show. Sailor Mars kept her anime personailty in the musicals, so it's possible. I also hope the new anime doesn’t take everything super serious like the manga. Don't get me wrong, the original anime had a lot of dark moments-the ending to Sailor Moon S genuinely shocked me. I had no idea things would turn out the way they did there.

Whatever happens, I’ll try to watch this show with an open mind. I think with more writers at it’s disposal, the manga storyline won’t be as boring. In fact, with the extra story bits that were missing from the original anime, it could be better. I’m already looking forward to the changes they do with the Sailor Moon Super S storyline. I'm also thrilled Kotono Mitsuishi is back to voice Sailor Moon again. Her Sailor Moon laugh is the best laugh in existence.

My favorite light-hearted moment from the original anime can be summed up in four words:

Pink. Sugar. Heat. Attack. I laughed so hard when I first saw that.

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[Raph's Girl]

I liked the manga because it explained things that the anime never did, like "How are Usagi and Mamoru still alive in the 30th century?"

It was kinda VAGUELY mentioned in passing that everyone was in a frozen state of suspended animation or something for a long time. Then Sailor Moon saved the world and the moon crystal made everyone immortal (Rini is actually like 900).

[Raph's Girl]

The cast for Sailor Moon Crystal has been revealed.

Kotono Mitsuishi is returning as Sailor Moon/Usagi/Serena
Hisako Kanemoto as Ami Mizuno/Sailor Mercury
Rina Satou as Rei Hino/Sailor Mars (she's a fan of the original show too!)
Ami Koshimizu as Makoto Kino/Sailor Jupiter/Lita
Shizuka Itou as Minako Aino/Sailor Venus

The series premiers July 5th and will run every other saturday (1st and 3rd Saturday of the month) online on the Niconico streaming site.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-27/kotono-mitsuishi-leads-sailor-moon-crystal-cast#sHsLqJ5OApSATGFy.01

[NameGoesHere1066]

I am surprised so many people do not like the manga version of Sailor Moon. I loved it and in some ways but I can see how some would prefer the anime.

However I loved the personalites of the girls much better in the manga then in anime. They were all too squealy and boy crazy in the anime and I felt the manga gave each of them alot of strength and dignity. The only problem is that the manga did not have enough time to develop all the greatness that their characters had. A anime can change this, and I hope the new anime stays as true to their manga personalites and relationships as possiable.

I aslo adore manga sailor mars. she was more spiritual and elegant in the anime while being tough without being being mean or luad like her anime counter-part. I know some people are put off by her "I have no use for men" attitude in the manga, but making her the opposite of that was not cool either. I think if the anime gives Rei a warmer personality they can still stay true to her manga characterization, which I think deserves an chance in the new new anime.

[TMNT_Guy]

The cast for Sailor Moon Crystal has been revealed.

I was hoping for a reunion of Peach Hips, it will definitely take some time to get used to the new cast.

The only problem is that the manga did not have enough time to develop all the greatness that their characters had. A anime can change this, and I hope the new anime stays as true to their manga personalites and relationships as possiable.


I agree. Reading the manga to me is like reading a history book. It's full of great stories, but lite on anything that involves character. Characters are killed off as quickly as they are introduced, characters that sound like they're important are introduced with little to no reaction from the main cast. Seriously, Luna and Artemis have no reaction to finding out that Diana is their child from the future? Nevermind that, we only have so many pages left and King Endymion still has to give us our history lesson about the Black Moon tribe. I read up untill Chibiusa turned into Black Lady before I couldn't take the boredom anymore.

I can't fault Naoko Takeuchi for the fragmented pacing of the story. It's well documented how rushed she was to get those stories out in time for the anime writers. Her prequel series, Sailor V, while not as continuity heavy was paced better. Sailor Venus actually shows regret when she's forced to kill for the first time, big improvement in my opinion.

So yeah, still looking forward to the new show.

[Raph's Girl]

And we have a trailer!! WOOH!! :D

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[BabyTurtles]

And we have a trailer!! WOOH!! :D

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XD....I don't really like the art style.....it seems like they have a lack of expressions...

but the animation flow looks like it's going to be good!!

can't wait ^_^

[pennydreadful]

^^ I'm more concerned about how skinny they look; I find it a bit offputting personally (though I am aware that yes, they are just cartoon characters!) - but other than that, it looked wonderful. :)

[TMNT_Guy]

Translation of the trailer:
Putting it here since all my posts tend to get moved somewhere. (http://sailormoonforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24658&start=578)
Aside from the lyrics for "Moon Pride" and not Otome Senou (changing the song is a good idea)

Crossing over time

I am Luna.
I've been searching for you, Usagi-chan.

A new light of destiny

Usagi-chan, I have a mission for you.

Gather your friends!
Defeat the enemy!

is unleashed...

And after all this time you STILL need a translation for the other bits (aside from Moon Pride)....

Hmm, Luna seems to have a more realistic voice compared to her old cute voice. Some of the scenes from the trailer seem to have been based on panels from the manga. (http://sailormoonforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24827&start=27) As someone who never cared for the art style in the manga, I like the new look of the show. Based on the few clips shown, it feels familiar yet new. It’s just enough to differentiate it from the old show, but not enough to the point you feel alienated by it.

[Raph's Girl]

Viz Media has now released a subbed trailer for Sailor Moon Crystal. It's basically the same as the Japanese one only now with english subtitles.

Also, the series will be on more than just Niconico! It'll now also be on Hulu, Neonalley.com, and Crunchyroll. Either way it premiers July 5th!

Ryou Hirohashi (the Japanese voice for Tails) is the voice of Luna and Kenji Nojima is Tuxedo Mask/Mamoru Chiba (Huh.. I thought Toru Furuya was gonna reprise his role from the original series).

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-19/viz-streams-english-subtitled-sailor-moon-crystal-trailer/.75742

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Here's a transformation comparison between the first anime and the new anime.
http://www.fandompost.com/2014/07/01/sailor-moon-crystal-anime-transformation-sequence-surfaces-comparison-provided/

[Raph's Girl]

Here's a transformation comparison between the first anime and the new anime.
http://www.fandompost.com/2014/07/01/sailor-moon-crystal-anime-transformation-sequence-surfaces-comparison-provided/

CGI Transformation....interesting.

[pennydreadful]

Hmmm... I kind of feel like I like the old transformation better, but I'll still give the new Sailor Moon a chance. I think I'm still a bit thrown off by the art style not being what I expected; no offense intended but they just seem kind of anorexic to me. I can't quite put my finger on it; maybe it's that her arms seem thinner and longer? I don't know.

[Raph's Girl]

After seeing the first episode I have to say. Wow! Good to have the show back! Yeah the first ep was practically the first ep of the original almost word for word (with some changes, same basic plot of the jewelery store monster) but it was still awesome and MAN the artwork on the Moon Kingdom was breathtaking!! I love the song in the closing credits!

It's weird tho that Tuxedo Kamen essentially wears his costume minus the mask (altho he's wearing sunglasses) in broad daylight!

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I was really impressed with the new anime. The pacing was done well, the animation was beautiful and I really loved how Usagi wasn't as annoying as she was in the first show. I love the intro and ending for this show. Overall, this was a very good start for this new reboot. I hope they will go beyond 26 episodes if this show is successful. I have a feeling me and this show will get along just fine.

[CyberCubed]

Wait a minute this show is only 26 episodes? I thought it was a complete remake of the manga and old anime? I was expecting over 100 episodes.

[Raph's Girl]

Wait a minute this show is only 26 episodes? I thought it was a complete remake of the manga and old anime? I was expecting over 100 episodes.

Yeah. For now it's just 26 episodes. I haven't heard anything about them making more then that. Considering how spread out the episodes are (only 2 a month) I guess they figure if it gets renewed they'll have the time to make more.

[pennydreadful]

They're probably waiting to see how well it does before they commit to doing any more.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Wait a minute this show is only 26 episodes? I thought it was a complete remake of the manga and old anime? I was expecting over 100 episodes.

Remake of the manga, not the first anime. And yes, they said 26 episodes, though I hope it will expand to more than that.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

After 3 episodes, what do you guys think of the show so far?

[ssjup81]

After seeing the first episode I have to say. Wow! Good to have the show back! Yeah the first ep was practically the first ep of the original almost word for word (with some changes, same basic plot of the jewelery store monster) but it was still awesome and MAN the artwork on the Moon Kingdom was breathtaking!! I love the song in the closing credits!

It's weird tho that Tuxedo Kamen essentially wears his costume minus the mask (altho he's wearing sunglasses) in broad daylight!For the manga it was his school uniform if I'm remembering right. That aside I've yet to see the reboot. Sad that the original cast, minus Usagi's seiyuu, aren't back. I was hoping for a Peach Hips reunion too.

Anyway, did they use Mamoru's manga age or anime age?

[Peanut]

After 3 episodes, what do you guys think of the show so far?

I'm enjoying watching it with my fiancé. She seems to think it has gotten better every episode, but laments the fact that they're bi-weekly.

[pharaohyami5000]

It's all right for what it is, considering it's adapting closer to the manga.

Still prefer the Classics for being more expressive, comedic and better screentime for the other characters. Hoping to see that Saturn transformation for the Crystals series, which for some reason was absent in the other series.

[Sage Ninja]

with the way fans keep comparing this new anime to the old one and bitching about it, I don't think it is going to go beyond this 26 episode season.

I have heard everything. Usagi has dead eyes. There is not enough detail...it's not as funny as the old one.

Personally I am glad they are sticking closer to the manga. I prefer almost all the character portrayals better in the manga. Especially Sailor Mars and Mamoru. And I think the old anime got carried away with how comedic it got at times. After the outer senshi showed up they made the inner senshi so derpy and incompetent by comparison. By Sailor Stars the inner senshi were just cheap comic relief. The original manga artist treated her characters with much more respect.

[pennydreadful]

I'm going to give it a chance and see how it plays out, but I'm waiting til the whole season's available - I'm really bad at watching shows episode-by-episode (I think NickTurtles is the only show I do that with!). :)

[pharaohyami5000]

with the way fans keep comparing this new anime to the old one and bitching about it, I don't think it is going to go beyond this 26 episode season.

I have heard everything. Usagi has dead eyes. There is not enough detail...it's not as funny as the old one.

Personally I am glad they are sticking closer to the manga. I prefer almost all the character portrayals better in the manga. Especially Sailor Mars and Mamoru. And I think the old anime got carried away with how comedic it got at times. After the outer senshi showed up they made the inner senshi so derpy and incompetent by comparison. By Sailor Stars the inner senshi were just cheap comic relief. The original manga artist treated her characters with much more respect.


Oh no. Don't get me wrong. I'm really enjoying Crystals since these 3 aired, and the 4th one coming up this weekend is another I'm looking forward to. Beautiful animation and a closer adaptation to the manga, it's enough to keep me invested and I hope to see scenes that were not included from the Classic series.

Yeah, it could be a little more lively, but this is the Sailor Moon for this time, so I'm not bothered with the differences. Unsure if Jedeite really kicked it there or they'll have him around from what Act. 3 showed us.

[Mona_Lisa]

I didn't even know they were rebooting the anime until I saw this tread... So I watched two of the three episode so far! I like it, the animation style is so cute!!!:tlove:

[Mega Man]

I have watched the first 3 episodes of Sailor Moon Crystal so far. I like the series. It seems to be moving at a fast pace, as far as introducing new characters.

[sdp]

I haven't watched the show but from the trailer it seemed like this show just doesn't have the budget. And while the original show is dated and has plenty of flaws it did a pretty good job at telling the Sailor Moon story and left big shoes to fill. Maybe it's more of a the old show did so much with so little and the new show does so little with so much.

SM needs to have "filler", you can't just rush through the story or you won't care about the characters. I'm not a huge SM fan but I have nostalgia for it, I watched all of the anime 2 years ago and overall I thought it was good for what it was but doesn't do much for me anymore. Sailor Moon S being the exception as that was very enjoyable through all of it. The first season is pretty bland but works. R was a little boring except for the first story arc that was anime only. Super S I only remember it being boring and don't even remember what happened in Stars. Villains were always pretty cool looking though.

I think fans just expected the new show to re-tell what worked on the original and go from there but it just doesn't work when the original anime has hundreds of episodes. You can only "abridge" it so much. I think Dragon Ball Z falls into the same problem, there's still a lot of fans that want new content but the original show while it has flaws did plenty of things very well so they can't just remake it. Kai was their version of having a new DBZ without making a new show, not because they were cheap but its hard to do something different with something established.

Other Japanese franchises have had that problem like Astro Boy and Evangelion. Remakes are just easier to take for western characters since we're used to them having various versions. I'm not saying one is better than the other, just shows how different cultures lead to different storytelling. I remember this comic that used to be posted on /co/ alot about how anime icons changed every decade while western icons were just re-imaginings of the same characters.

[ssjup81]

Dragon Ball in general is still super popular and well-known here. It's still constantly reshown. Kai was more like an anniversary special anyway for Z and I feel Sailor Moon Crystal was originally intended to be that way as well.

It's cutting out all of the filler because it doesn't have to worry about the manga because it's already finished. It's supposedly staying more faithful to the manga hence the faster pace. Same with Dragon Ball Kai.

[Mega Man]

Well, regardless I am enjoying watching Sailor Moon Crystal. DragonBall Z is a favorite anime of mine too. Both series have a different feel to them, but I like them both. Sailor Moon Crystal has a much calmer and slower paced feel to it compared to DBZ. I find DBZ to be much more exciting though.

[pharaohyami5000]

Up to Act 5 right now. What a horrible decision to have 2 Crystal episodes in 1 month instead of going for a bi-weekly schedule. Ah well. Watching yesterday's episode last night under the full moon was a treat.

I wish SMC's BGM vary a little more, and despite wanting a few more facial expressions, the animation's still fine. Looks like they're doing a few things just a bit different from the manga version, and I welcome it. I'd like to see what ideas they got in stores for us. Though, I do wish they would have their side characters like Naru to be more than just one of the informants of the show. The Classics did a good job of displaying Naru as Usagi's best friend and gave her some amount of screentime during both First Season and R-series... kind of.

[Mona_Lisa]

just watched episode 6, I was very surprised that sailor moon and tuxedo mask already know each others real identity's! Very diff. from the original cartoon, But I like it! Such a sweet love story!

[Raph's Girl]

Well looks like they're refering to the next arc as Season 2.

Season 2 is the Dark Moon Kingdom arc and features... Sailor Pluto and Mini-Moon!

Here's the preview for it:

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and the translation:
Usagi: Time for the two of us I always wished for... And I finally got it.
Usagi: Hey! Who's that hanging on to my Mamo-chan!?
Usagi: I thought I had finally gotten some alone time for the both of us!
Chibiusa: You're... Usagi Tsukino...?
Usagi: Huh?
Chibiusa: If you're Usagi Tsukino, you should have the Illusionary Silver Crystal. Hand it over. Come on, hurry!
Rei: I had a bad feeling about something.
Chibiusa: I'll watch you for a while!
Ami: I didn't think we'd be using these again so soon...
Makoto: It's starting again, huh...?
Text: The shadow of a new enemy approaching...
Usagi: What did you do to Papa and the others!? Turn them back!
Chibiusa: ...No.
Usagi: Ah, hey!
Luna: That's...!
Usagi: That's... A door...?
Pluto: Wait! I won't let you past here. I will erase those who bring danger!
Text: Invited by a mysterious girl, Usagi and the others go to 30th century Crystal Tokyo!
Text: They stand against the dark crystal...!
Chibiusa: Hey... Is Sailor Moon strong?
Mamoru: Yeah. She's invincible.
Chibiusa: I wonder... If maybe, she'll save mom?
Venus: If it's all five of us, we can do this!
Moon: Time to transform! The pretty guardian clad in a sailor suit! Sailor Moon! I'll punish you in the name of the moon!

Ok who gave the 5 year old a gun?!
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-27/sailor-moon-crystal-black-moon-arc-trailer-previews-chibi-usa-sailor-pluto/.82667

[TheCanadiandrome]

This only on YouTube?

[Raph's Girl]

This only on YouTube?

THe preview or the series?? The preview's on YouTube, the series itself is on Hulu, Crunchyroll, and NicoNico. New eps are the 1st and 3rd saturday's of the month. It airs simultaniously in Japan and the U.S (the eps pop up online at like 3am)

[BabyTurtles]

SMC just doesn't make the characters as fun and colorful as the 90's SM

......and if I can't find the characters interesting I can't really get into the show....:ohwell:

their lack of expressions don't help either.....

[CyberCubed]

So the girl falls from the sky and kisses Tuxedo Mask right on the lips even though she's like 8 years old. Then she holds a pistol to Sailor Moon's face? What is with Japan's obsession with lolicon? Did we really need to see her kiss him?

I mean isn't she Sailor Moon's daughter from the future or something too?

[ssjup81]

I've finally started to watch Sailor Moon Crystal. I'm quite impressed with how close it is to the manga so far. I even like the fact that Rei/Mars (whose character was changed for the original anime) is just like her manga counterpart. Serious about her temple duties and not boy crazy and not interested in dating or guys. Of course there's a reason for it. In the manga there was a guy she really liked that worked for her father...and he was forced into marrying another girl because of him so that the two companies would have a good connection or whatever. Very old way of doing things. From then Rei felt it was pointless to fall in love, I guess you could say.

I'm also glad THEY FIXED MAMORU AND MOTOKI'S AGES!! Okay, so Motoki was never a problem. He was always portrayed in both the anime and manga as a university student who worked part time at the Crown Game Center/Cafe. Mamoru in the first anime was a university student, whereas in the manga, he was in highschool who later on became a first-year university student. It bugged me that a university student was dating a junior high school student. At least here, the ages are 14 and 16 for Usagi and Mamoru. Second year junior high school student and a second year high school student. I don't have much of an issue with that.

I'm glad they're keeping in the Shittenou storyline where we find out that Beryll's four minions weren't just brainwashed followers and that they'd lost memories of their pasts. The first anime handled this poorly.

I love that they kept in the Sailor V game being important.

Glad they pointed out the uniform thing for Makoto. The school didn't have a uniform for her because she's tall for a Japanese girl. The other students feared her because of the type of uniform she wore (which was changed since it's not the case anymore in modern day Japan). Uniforms with long skirts, or those who wore long skirts in the style of Mako's, as well as her hair type (wavy and such), back then actually had a negative stigma. People would assume she was "sukeban"...a delinquent girl. I forgot the term used for boys. So yeah, that was dropped, but that's more of a dated thing than anything else.

This is why Mako was always my favorite. She's tall and it's obvious she doesn't care for that. I also like the fact that she was perceived as strong and tough and "dangerous" despite her hobbies and club choices being quite feminine, traditional, or gentle. Her character is definitely showing that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.

Now, as for things I do miss from this series...well, probably some of the "90s" stuff. Like with Ami who when in the cram school in the original manga and anime, was given a 3 1/2 floppy to work from. The update wasn't bad, though. A CD-Rom.

I liked Mr. Tsukino's design more so for the original anime. Umino as well.

I miss the original music. This show's intro just feels too Precure for my tastes or AKBish and I don't like either. I miss Moonlight Densetsu. I always skip the intro. The bgm is fine, though.

Hm, I kinda miss Yuuichirou and the other original seiyuu. Wish the rest of the women that voiced the other girls could've reprised their roles.

I also kinda miss filler eps which usually had the characters going through something silly or goofy which showed that there was more to them than just "Sailor business" as well as their vulnerabilities. Even though it was anime original, I actually kinda miss the storyline they had with Naru in the original series where she was being taken advantage of by one of Beryll's minions and the girls having to deal with that.

I am so hoping that they adapt some of the manga side stories, like the one where Minako pretty much crashed and hung at Rei's private school for a day in disguise as a student. That was hilarious in the manga.

That aside, I am definitely enjoying Crystal so far, for what it is.
So the girl falls from the sky and kisses Tuxedo Mask right on the lips even though she's like 8 years old. Then she holds a pistol to Sailor Moon's face? What is with Japan's obsession with lolicon? Did we really need to see her kiss him?

I mean isn't she Sailor Moon's daughter from the future or something too?It was an accident, as she landed right in the middle of them when they were on a date in the park. She also didn't know, yet, that Usagi was her future mother (just as they didn't know she was their future daughter and didn't until they did that arc where they went to the future) and the pistol was a fake. It was a toy gun that shot darts (I think).

Edit: Never mind. I didn't know there was a youtube clip of season 2. Wow, so they're getting right into it. For the manga I liked ChibiUsa. Anime wise, not so much. I hope this series have her closer to her manga counterpart. She, imo, came across as very bratty, but I liked her for the manga.

Anyway, the kiss was still an accident and the pistol was still fake.

[BabyTurtles]

So the girl falls from the sky and kisses Tuxedo Mask right on the lips even though she's like 8 years old. Then she holds a pistol to Sailor Moon's face? What is with Japan's obsession with lolicon? Did we really need to see her kiss him?

I mean isn't she Sailor Moon's daughter from the future or something too?

that scene still feels awkward to me......

I mean Tuxedo Mask is her dad.......plus she's young......so yea...little weird.

[CyberCubed]

It's Japan. They're turned on by lolicon and incest over there, it makes no sense. There's a reason there's always little girls in various anime or inappropiate relationships in shows, I'll never understand that country.

[Allio]

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

[ssjup81]

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.Thinking about it some parents do do this. My aunt in NY does this when greeting relatives and she did that with her kids as well.

[BabyTurtles]

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

yea of course, It's just when Mamoru started blushing (after he gets kissed by chibiusa) that it became weird....

[CyberCubed]

have you guys never kissed your mother on the lips when you were 8? it's not exactly wrong.

Japan has a fetish for underage relationships.

[ssjup81]

yea of course, It's just when Mamoru started blushing (after he gets kissed by chibiusa) that it became weird....

*Finally watched*

Yeah, it was weird, but I figured it was an embarassed blush.

[TheCanadiandrome]

THe preview or the series?? The preview's on YouTube, the series itself is on Hulu, Crunchyroll, and NicoNico. New eps are the 1st and 3rd saturday's of the month. It airs simultaniously in Japan and the U.S (the eps pop up online at like 3am)

Crunchyroll? Sunofa! I'll start watching then

[LeotheLateBloomer]

You know, there is something's that I think Crystal lacks in comparison to both the manga and the original anime. But I can't quite put my finger on it.

[ssjup81]

You know, there is something's that I think Crystal lacks in comparison to both the manga and the original anime. But I can't quite put my finger on it.This show seems very true to the manga, but seems in the older anime series, the girls seemed a bit more....teen-like at times? Yes they had their sailor duties, but they also had their "earth lives" as well as other interests. Seems Crystal is focusing on the "duty" part only as opposed to the silly side-stories to see how they are from day to day when sailor stuff isn't fully involved. Seriously, I would love the side story of Minako disgusing herself just so she could go to Rei's school for a day. It was definitely my favorite side story from the manga because of how goofy Minako was for it and how amazed she was over what Rei's private school had to offer.

Hm, could that be it?

[TheCanadiandrome]

great series! i love it alot

[sdp]

So i watched the first episode on the free "samples" of the crunchyroll app and I have to say I was impressed, I didn't like the art style and what little I had seen looked choppy but it looked all rather nicely. My main gripe is the music was not iconic nor great which is a shame since the original anime has such great music. About 3 years ago I started re-watching Sailor Moon and it took me like a year to finish all the seasons. The show definitely had pros and cons but it didn't make me want to see a new SM show.

Anyway so all of the first season is only told in 14 episodes? That's neat that you can watch it all so quickly but in cases like this I actually think filler is good. What makes you like the characters so much is that you grow with them as they beat the bad guys, if you go from powers to beat the main general to beat the big bad the battles don't feel as epic. I'm not a fan of cutting down so much filler since I'm sure that many things won't feel as epic. Still I hope they get through all of the Manga, it'd be neat to finally see more accurate versions of Super S and Stars, especially since S was my favorite Anime season only for Super S in the anime to be my least favorite after that since it went on a total different direction.

[CyberCubed]

I haven't watched any of this yet, but I always liked how Sailor Moon had very little to no fanservice. It isn't like the magical girl shows that followed which had the girls always naked, grabbing each others boobs, sexual themes, etc.

I miss classic 90's anime, and I'm glad this remake isn't like modern anime stuff.

[BabyTurtles]

I haven't watched any of this yet, but I always liked how Sailor Moon had very little to no fanservice. It isn't like the magical girl shows that followed which had the girls always naked, grabbing each others boobs, sexual themes, etc.

I miss classic 90's anime, and I'm glad this remake isn't like modern anime stuff.

Actually...Sailor moon had a ton of fanservice.....but I guess it wasn't as in your face as most anime today.

Still it was there, I mean it wasn't like hidden or anything really.

[Leo656]

Don't mind Cubed, he misses the easy ones sometimes. :lol:

Hell, I barely paid attention to the old show - I did watch it once in a while, because it came on right before Sonic on the same channel and there was nothing else on at like 7am - but I could never shake the feeling, "I think this show wants me to masturbate. In fact, I *know* that's what they want." :lol:

It's got a HUGE reputation for being fan-service-y, guy, S'wrong wit'chu? Even *I* know that, mostly because, that's mostly the beginning and end of what I know about it.

[CyberCubed]

Sailor Moon was very tame fanservice-wise. Nothing like the magical girl anime that came after it during the 2000's. Go look up Vividred Operation which is the same genre of Sailor Moon and see what I mean.

[ssjup81]

Actually...Sailor moon had a ton of fanservice.....but I guess it wasn't as in your face as most anime today.

Still it was there, I mean it wasn't like hidden or anything really.

I obviously missed this so-called fanservice. What was in Sailor Moon that was fanservicey?

[CyberCubed]

Weren't there some nude transformation scenes and a few panty shots? Some of the female villains also had some cleavage scenes.

[pennydreadful]

Cleavage? Why, I never!

http://www.pagunblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ClutchingPearls.jpg

Somebody fetch my smelling salts...

[BabyTurtles]

I obviously missed this so-called fanservice. What was in Sailor Moon that was fanservicey?

Mostly the villains ridiculous outfits. (They were all mostly girls)

seriously look up Sailor Moon villains it's crazy what they wear XD

[TMNT_Guy]

The fanservice is there if you’re looking for it, though you really have to reach for it. At the end of the day people are going to see what they want to see.

There’s the aforementioned “panty shots” that show up every once in a while. Though it’s worth mentioning that, as the transformation sequence clearly shows (http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/o6HAHogcHFI/hqdefault.jpg), they wear leotards underneath their skirts. Not underwear. I remember one time Jupiter accidentally looked up Mercury's skirt (http://powet.tv/powetblog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/sailor_moon_episode_31_sailor_jupiter_stares_at_sa ilor_mercurys_butt.jpg) in episode 56, though it happens so quickly you might miss it the first time watching

There were a few times Sailor Moon’s transformer broke which resulted in her outfit turning in a bunch or ribbons,(the same ribbons from the transformation sequence) causing her to look naked. Though her body is drawn with no more detail then a Barbie doll (http://www.rubberslug.com/user/b5817526657c4595be6758ab52f92a35/257468-1811335-smrmovie%20wishlist3.JPG). It’s worth noting that in Japan nudity is symbolism for purity. There’s also the final episode, but again, Barbie doll detail and nudity = purity.

But yeah, you won’t find any random close ups of someone’s butt in the original show or any boob jiggling. In that regard, Sailor Moon is more tame then Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yzrYjpf9R-Q/U3lLjT4bqeI/AAAAAAAARo8/cVzMVy-pBpc/s1600/valentina-super-mario-rpg.gif).

[sdp]

Sailor Moon is full of fanservice, maybe shows have more of it now but Fanservice has always existed and many times what westerners call fanservice is nothing to blink an eye on in Japan. You can't judge Eastern culture with a Western view, totally different things and no one way is the "correct" version. I mean you have these 14 year olds in short skirts where they get naked to transform and most MOTW look like prostitutes. It really is a you see what you want to see. New shows also get the benefit of having older pervert fans screencrapping and making gifs and posting them on the internet over and over again which makes people think that show is full of sex. Even in the original Anime you had Chibi Moon having a crush on Darien who is her father, its no different than Luke/Leia in ANH and ESB before we found out the "truth" in ROTJ, its meant to be cute. Is there really something wrong with seeing Goku's penis when he's a baby? If you have a dirty mind everything is dirty and you can be like Reverend Lovejoy's Wife and "think of the children". Sure somethings like lolicon are taking things too far and some shows are indeed like that but they are the minority some of the other magical girl shows with 14 year olds who actually look like they're their age unlike Sailor Moon have things that people call out as "fan service" but its only people making scenes "dirty" while they are "cute". But I'm guessing as people get older they forget to see things from other perspectives and all they think about is sex and that everything is evil which is why you always have those super sheltered girls in High School who end up making worse mistakes than anyone else there because of it.


Anywho, that crunchy roll app seems a great way for fans to get legal subbed anime, I hope it succeeds. It's definitely not something for me but its nice to see a legal alternative being available, it has a good concept.

[CyberCubed]

90's Sailor Moon fanservice is "nothing" compared to modern anime. You guys must not realize just how bad fanservice is in modern shows.

Camera shots that linger on boobs and ass for long periods of times, nude scenes galore, girls groping each others boobs, lesbian moments for the sake of "the male gaze," young girls around 8-10 years old sexualized, etc.

You don't realize how bad it is now. Fanservice went from being "blink and you'll miss it" to huge scenes of nudity. Here's an example of modern anime fanservice:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/0d499f5e1280ab0cba58b5dc96d0ff9c/tumblr_ni7bchUB031rrr564o1_500.gif

^ Look at this garbage. An entire scene with a huge breasted woman in a towel who a young girl somehow walks into and has her face buried in her rack. And this is in a typical anime of today.

You don't see garbage like that in Sailor Moon, thank god.

[ssjup81]

Mostly the villains ridiculous outfits. (They were all mostly girls)

seriously look up Sailor Moon villains it's crazy what they wear XDYou know, I didn't even think about the villains. I'd forgotten about them. The only one that comes to mind right off, now that I'm actually thinking about it, was one of those demons...think it was for Sailor Moon S. Her beam was shot from her breast where the nipple would've been, but it was in the shape of a big star. I wonder how the censors dealt with it. I've never watched anything higher than the first half of Sailor Moon R dub wise. Only in Japanese.The fanservice is there if you’re looking for it, though you really have to reach for it. At the end of the day people are going to see what they want to see.Yeah, that's how I feel about it. The fact that I had to literally think about it (where Sailor Moon is concerned)\ shows that.It’s worth noting that in Japan nudity is symbolism for purity. There’s also the final episode, but again, Barbie doll detail and nudity = purity.I can vouch for this. It really isn't. At a very young age, kids are exposed to nudity, but not in a sexual way. There are onsen and baths as well as mixed baths or public ones. In the home, most parents bathe with their kids, so nudity isn't associated with sex. Of course for some *coughs*teenageboys*coughs* yeah, probably, but that's the hormones and puberty talking...which is normal. My friend's son (who was maybe 11 or so at the time) still took baths with his father. When done, he walked right out, completely nude, in front of me and his mother like it was no big deal. This just surprised me because that wouldn't happen at all back home.

Also, in the kindergartens/preschools, the kids change in front of one another. They don't seem to start doing things separately until elementary school.But yeah, you won’t find any random close ups of someone’s butt in the original show or any boob jiggling. In that regard, Sailor Moon is more tame then Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yzrYjpf9R-Q/U3lLjT4bqeI/AAAAAAAARo8/cVzMVy-pBpc/s1600/valentina-super-mario-rpg.gif).Yeah! When I played that game originally, I was like, "Geez!" every time you punched Valentina and her boobs moved. Also found it interesting that in the int'l release of that game (meaning our version) that she was allowed to keep her martini glass during the battle...at least I think she was holding a martini glass. It's been a long time. Sailor Moon is full of fanservice, maybe shows have more of it now but Fanservice has always existed and many times what westerners call fanservice is nothing to blink an eye on in Japan. You can't judge Eastern culture with a Western view, totally different things and no one way is the "correct" version. I mean you have these 14 year olds in short skirts where they get naked to transform and most MOTW look like prostitutes. It really is a you see what you want to see. New shows also get the benefit of having older pervert fans screencrapping and making gifs and posting them on the internet over and over again which makes people think that show is full of sex. Even in the original Anime you had Chibi Moon having a crush on Darien who is her father, its no different than Luke/Leia in ANH and ESB before we found out the "truth" in ROTJ, its meant to be cute. Is there really something wrong with seeing Goku's penis when he's a baby? If you have a dirty mind everything is dirty and you can be like Reverend Lovejoy's Wife and "think of the children". Sure somethings like lolicon are taking things too far and some shows are indeed like that but they are the minority some of the other magical girl shows with 14 year olds who actually look like they're their age unlike Sailor Moon have things that people call out as "fan service" but its only people making scenes "dirty" while they are "cute". But I'm guessing as people get older they forget to see things from other perspectives and all they think about is sex and that everything is evil which is why you always have those super sheltered girls in High School who end up making worse mistakes than anyone else there because of it.Yeah, this as well. I don't get why anyone would feel awkward regarding nudity, unless the character was doing something sexual or if the show itself is aimed at an older audience.

That aside, most of the nudity I've come across seems to include people bathing. In Japanese culture, bathing is a very important part of life. It's so ingrained. It's supposed to be a time of enjoyment and relaxation as well.90's Sailor Moon fanservice is "nothing" compared to modern anime. You guys must not realize just how bad fanservice is in modern shows.

Camera shots that linger on boobs and ass for long periods of times, nude scenes galore, girls groping each others boobs, lesbian moments for the sake of "the male gaze," young girls around 8-10 years old sexualized, etc.

You don't realize how bad it is now. Fanservice went from being "blink and you'll miss it" to huge scenes of nudity. Here's an example of modern anime fanservice:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/0d499f5e1280ab0cba58b5dc96d0ff9c/tumblr_ni7bchUB031rrr564o1_500.gif

^ Look at this garbage. An entire scene with a huge breasted woman in a towel who a young girl somehow walks into and has her face buried in her rack. And this is in a typical anime of today.

You don't see garbage like that in Sailor Moon, thank god.So, Cube, what audience is this being catered to? The preschool kids? The Elementary School ones? Adults? Just like with any medium, you have to take demographic into consideration as well as genre. Something like that isn't new to "modern anime". Look at Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai. Hilarious series because it parodies and spoofs other popular things, but it did have fanservice, but, it wasn't aimed at kids. It was aimed at an older audience and the main characters were two best friends. The boy, though had a weakspot for girls. I have the manga of this too. It was aimed at teenagers, this series.

Najica Blitz Tactics...my god was terribly annoying with the in your face fanservice. Panty shots everywhere...but, once again, aimed at an older audience.

These types of shows also wouldn't be shown during a time for kids to watch them, even here in Japan. Most of the kiddy stuff (Pokemon, Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, etc) would come on during the day generally or on Sunday mornings, or in the afternoons, or the early evenings. Stuff with more mature content or adult situations would air late at night or even very early in the morning, like midnight or 1:00 or 2:00 am.

So yeah, stop generalizing. They air their stuff here the same way we do. Fanservicey stuff isn't generally aimed towards kids here. Japan has a rating system just like we do. If Japan didn't care, stuff like Detective Conan wouldn't have been toned down over the years when it comes to the murder cases. The earlier cases are way bloodier than the modern ones.

[TMNT_Guy]

I can vouch for this. It really isn't.
Ah, thanks for correcting me.
Also found it interesting that in the int'l release of that game (meaning our version) that she was allowed to keep her martini glass during the battle...at least I think she was holding a martini glass. It's been a long time.

It was (http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0c/Valentina.gif). Valentina’s original Japanese name is Margarita.

[sdp]

I have to admit that I'm not up to date with anime today besides really mainstream stuff but still I can assure you in the 80s and 90s there was plenty of questionable content in anime if you really looked for it. Even mainstream shows like Ranma 1/2 had tons of fan service but technology now makes it easier than ever to show all those things which might be the reason you see more of it. I have seen some of that "moe" art style that is really famous and yeah some of it is pretty creepy, but to judge all of anime based on that is probably not fair. Let's take iCarly for example, I've seen a few episodes and it seems like a fun show for kids but if my only knowledge of the show was all the .gifs I see of it on the internet I would not consider it a kids show.

Anywho, I hope SM Crystal does adapt all the manga and at 14 episodes per "season" I'd definitely check it out once its finished its run. I may just watch the Tokusatsu Sailor Moon show that I heard was great though if I find it easy to find..

[ssjup81]

Ah, thanks for correcting me. Sorry. Meant to say that it isn't seen as bad, nudity. So I wasn't correctimg. lol

It was (http://www.mariowiki.com/images/0/0c/Valentina.gif). Valentina’s original Japanese name is Margarita.I have the Japanese version too. I left off there a few weeks ago. Forgot her name was Margarita. lol

[ssjup81]

I have to admit that I'm not up to date with anime today....Neither am I. With the kids I work with, seems they're all into Youkai Watch. Other kids I see playing Pokemon games or Youkai Watch ones. One Piece is also still popular. I have some 8/9 year old boys who are into Dragon Ball and always have their Dragon Ball cards out. With really really young kids, seems they all like Doraemon and Anpanman stuff. Oy, Anpanman drove me nuts. lol Anywho, I hope SM Crystal does adapt all the manga and at 14 episodes per "season" I'd definitely check it out once its finished its run. I may just watch the Tokusatsu Sailor Moon show that I heard was great though if I find it easy to find..I it gets fully adapted as well, but it would be nice if the show had a little filler just so we can get to know the girls better outside of "Sailor Business" stuff. I like that it's faithful to the manga so far...even Rei is being portrayed accurately so far...but if this was my first exposure to the series, I honestly would have a difficult time picking a favorite character since we're not seeing many other facets of their characters and personalities (imo).

Oh, out of curiosity everyone, is Araki Kae reprising her role as Chibi Usa?

[pennydreadful]

... many times what westerners call fanservice is nothing to blink an eye on in Japan. You can't judge Eastern culture with a Western view, totally different things and no one way is the "correct" version.

At a very young age, kids are exposed to nudity, but not in a sexual way. There are onsen and baths as well as mixed baths or public ones. In the home, most parents bathe with their kids, so nudity isn't associated with sex.

Excellent posts - thank you. I think sometimes people need a reminder that Western cultural norms are not worldwide.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This show seems very true to the manga, but seems in the older anime series, the girls seemed a bit more....teen-like at times? Yes they had their sailor duties, but they also had their "earth lives" as well as other interests. Seems Crystal is focusing on the "duty" part only as opposed to the silly side-stories to see how they are from day to day when sailor stuff isn't fully involved. Seriously, I would love the side story of Minako disgusing herself just so she could go to Rei's school for a day. It was definitely my favorite side story from the manga because of how goofy Minako was for it and how amazed she was over what Rei's private school had to offer.

Hm, could that be it?

Yes, I think you nailed it pretty well! ;D

[Raph's Girl]

Sailor Moon Crystal got renewed for a season season!! Season 2 starts this summer!

http://www.fandompost.com/2015/04/10/second-sailor-moon-crystal-anime-series-coming-this-summer/

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Well, it looks like this show will be getting renewed for a third season.

http://www.crossmap.com/news/sailor-moon-crystal-season-3-confirmed-death-busters-arc-announced-21348

[CyberCubed]

So since everyone feels this is inferior to the original why are they continuing it?

[Raph's Girl]

Well, it looks like this show will be getting renewed for a third season.

http://www.crossmap.com/news/sailor-moon-crystal-season-3-confirmed-death-busters-arc-announced-21348

I don't get how they do the seasons....Do they seperate them out by the arcs or something??

[ssjup81]

So since everyone feels this is inferior to the original why are they continuing it?Because people are watching it? That aside, there really isn't anything wrong with it...just some things I prefer from the original series...although, I never did finish season 1 of this particular series, so maybe the qualms I was having with it at that time were rectified.

[drgon78]

The animation is nice but lacks the soul and character of the original. While I like the idea of less monster of the day, it went too far in the other direction when most of the main villains are the monster of the day and get no or little character development. I think I got 15-16 episodes in and just couldn't get interested to watch anymore. This new series would have been great if the original creator wasn't involved.

[ssjup81]

I only got 11 eps in before I took a hiatus from it. It just didn't pull me in like the original did...but they're about to adapt the Death Busters arc, right? I may watch that since Saturn/Hotaru was one of my favorite characters and S was my fav for the manga.

[Raph's Girl]

they're about to adapt the Death Busters arc, right? I may watch that since Saturn/Hotaru was one of my favorite characters and S was my fav for the manga.

Death Busters arc has been confirmed! They will be announcing the voice actors for the outer senshi on Jan 27th (Sailor Uranus' birthday apparantly). Niconico will be live streaming the event. The 3rd season (each arc is considered to be a season) will be premiering in the spring.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-08/3rd-season-of-sailor-moon-crystal-spring-premiere-new-staff-revealed/.97352

[Raph's Girl]

Here's the new opening sequence for season 3 (which premiers April 4th):

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And here's the new closing song (which is essentially Uranus and Neptune's love ballad):
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[LeotheLateBloomer]

The opening was freakin' sweet! The ending was pretty solid. The animation looks better, I'll say that much.

[drgon78]

The animation has never been part of any of the problems I have with this series.:lol:

[ranger_scout]

From Ranger Board:

New episodes of Crystal confirmed!

http://www.sailormoon-official.com/25th/ (You have to scroll down to the Crystal section and click on it)

アニメ「美少女戦士セーラームーンCrystal」
続編制作決定！

アニメ「美少女戦士セーラームーンCrystal」の続編制作が決定しました！
詳しい情報は追ってお知らせいたします。
楽しみにしていてくださいね♪

Translated by google:

Animation "Sailor Moon Crystal"
Continuation production decision!

We have decided to produce the sequel of anime "Sailor Moon Crystal"!
More information will be announced shortly.
Please look forward to it ♪

[ranger_scout]

Two new movies are going to be released in 2020. Here is a teaser and poster.

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-TmnWVUEAAh8Tj.jpg

[drgon78]

The poster looks a lot more like the original art style then the new series.

[ranger_scout]

New teaser for the films.

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[Sage Ninja]

I feel bad that this is going to be films now instead of seasons.

[NeonTurtledude]

I'm looking forward to the next Sailor Moon film tbh, it'll be interesting to see how it depicts the sailor starlights storyline

[CyberCubed]

Hard to believe this started in 2014 and only next year they'll finally be done adapting the original manga.

[Coola Yagami]

WTF? Thought this ended already. I'm assuming they took a long break due to CoVid?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

The latest 2-parter movie was in production way before Covid was a thing. The show admittedly started off rough and didn't get better until the last season. They're now adapting the last two arcs of the manga as films. In comparison, the new Tokyo Mew Mew reboot has a better start than this show.

[CyberCubed]

WTF? Thought this ended already. I'm assuming they took a long break due to CoVid?

They covered everything but the last 5th season story. That's what this is.

[Sumac]

Wait they did "Season 4" as an anime or a movie?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Wait they did "Season 4" as an anime or a movie?

Movie, it was a two part film.

[NeonTurtledude]

I quite enjoyed the Sailor Moon Eternal movies

[CyberCubed]

Wait they did "Season 4" as an anime or a movie?

Season 4 was two movies, Season 5 will also be two movies.

Season 3 was the last one that was a regular anime season. The show basically got "canceled" after that, and now years later they're finishing the rest of the story in movie format.

[sdp]

Does it actually follow the manga closely?
How does it compare to the original show? (following the manga more closely is not necessarily better)

I wonder if successful they'd continue making original movies that take place after the manga.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Does it actually follow the manga closely?
How does it compare to the original show? (following the manga more closely is not necessarily better)

I wonder if successful they'd continue making original movies that take place after the manga.

It follows the manga more than the orginal anime. However, the character models and art style for the first two seasons were very bland and lacked the humor of both the manga and the original anime. They took it to heart and made the show a lot more appealing for the third season but I think it was too little too late for some fans. The pacing is the same as the manga but part of what made the original anime fun was the many filler episodes that explored the characters. This is due to the fact that Sailor Moon is one of the few series where the anime released a month after the manga and both were running together. So Crystal ultimately is a show that started off rough and takes two seasons to become entertaining. Take that for what you will.

[NeonTurtledude]

I watched season 1 of crystal and enjoyed it when it was on, but it did lack the personality and charm that the 90s series had, I didn't get to catch up with season 2 or 3 because, by that time, my anime-watching schedule had to adjust to my school one

my memory on this is vague but I know that Sailor Moon was the show that got me more interested in anime, I've seen seasons 1,2 and a bit of super s and stars, they were quite good