What do you NOT want to see in the Nick show?

[Metalwolf]

Since we already have a thread on what you do want to see in the Nick show, what are some things that you DON'T want to see? It can be anything, such as certain characters, to character development, or plots.

I'll list one of mine: I don't want to see everything get too goofy. They should keep the humor of the Turtles, but in a dark and serious setting.

[Konchadunga]

1) Venus De Milo
2) Mr Ogg
3) Venus De Milo
4) Ch'rel
5) Venus De Milo
6) Muck Man
7) Venus De Milo
8) Tengu Shredder
9) Venus De Milo
10) The Ancient One
11) Venus De Milo
12) Venus De Milo
13) Venus De Milo

[billbot85]

As long as there is no Mr. Ogg, Mad Dog McMutt or any of those other senseless villains....

[Papenbrook]

I don't want to see Splinter die in the current series.

I also don't want to see Timothy die a horrible death, or suffer a horrible ending for that matter.

[ObiWanFan4life]

1) Venus De Milo
2) Mr Ogg
3) Venus De Milo
4) Ch'rel
5) Venus De Milo
6) Muck Man
7) Venus De Milo
8) Tengu Shredder
9) Venus De Milo
10) The Ancient One
11) Venus De Milo
12) Venus De Milo
13) Venus De Milo

^ This as well as the other Next Mutation Villains.

[RaphAndDonnie]

I don't want it to become too silly like the OT or too serious like 2k3. This series is known for being the middle between the two and I'd like it to stay that way.

[Shark_Blade]

Venus de Milo
Timothy

I don't want it to become too silly like the OT or too serious like 2k3. This series is known for being the middle between the two and I'd like it to stay that way.It seems to be that way thankfully.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

1. Venus De Milo
2. Taking too many influences from the previous shows.
3. Becoming too silly like the OT.
4. Too many mutants like Archie.
5. Shredder being an alien like in 2k3.
6. The Don/April/Casey pairing to continue.
7. Mikey's intelligence decreasing.
8. Bad pacing between the stories.

[BabyTurtles]

1) Mikey being reduced to only a goofball....
2) Apriltello
3) any girl mutated turtle....
4) mutant overload....
5) no plots given to Raph or Mikey....
6)....Apriltello.

[ObiWanFan4life]

1) Mikey being reduced to only a goofball....
2) Apriltello
3) any girl mutated turtle....
4) mutant overload....
5) no plots given to Raph or Mikey....
6)....Apriltello.

1.) Hasn't completely suffered from Flanderization
3.) No sign of her appearing in sight so we're good.
4.) Dangerously approaching that happening
5.) They've had plots, but they need personal ones
6.) It might be Too Late :o
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1211704

[madyankees]

NO more Apriltello... and I really wish they make April n Casey older.

To me, April's always a big sister kinda character so I really am not digging the "same age group" change

[BabyTurtles]

1.) Hasn't completely suffered from Flanderization
3.) No sign of her appearing in sight so we're good.
4.) Dangerously approaching that happening
5.) They've had plots, but they need personal ones
6.) It might be Too Late :o
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1211704

1) yup he's still good~
3) thank goodness
4) that's for sure.....people need to watch were they step/drink/touch
5) yes! more personal plots would be awesome!
6) XD I'm just waiting for April to totally screw both guys over and say she doesn't like either, now THAT would be a twist....but then all that waisted love plot....

[blindturtle02]

What do I not want to see? Well off the top of my head, Rahzar watered down. No more of that, thanks. No more long hiatuses! Oh I'll have to come back to this later because Walking Dead is starting. Nuts.

[miru]

Things getting TOO idiotic.

Cody Jones

Hokum Hare

[Creativecreature31]

1.) Apriltello
2.) Leorai
3.) More romance plot-related crap (But that's wishful thinking)
4.) A Certain Female Turtle
5.) ANOTHER FREAKING HIATUS!!!``
6.) Mikey getting even dumber
7.) More Mutagen Man (Again, wishful thinking)

[MCLeo28]

1. Fungus Humungous
2. Too much dimension hopping.
3. Too many "Mutant of the Week" filler episodes.
4. Karai realizing the truth too early.
5. Lack of focus on Mikey.
6. Leatherhead and Snakeweed only showing up for a few episodes.

^ You hate Mutagen Man?

[Creativecreature31]

1. Fungus Humungous
2. Too much dimension hopping.
3. Too many "Mutant of the Week" filler episodes.
4. Karai realizing the truth too early.
5. Lack of focus on Mikey.
6. Leatherhead and Snakeweed only showing up for a few episodes.

^ You hate Mutagen Man?

Well I hated Timothy and Timothy is Mutagen Man so...

[Warhorse]

The lack of a mother figure somewhere in this show. (The Turtles, April, Karai, Casey and hell, even the little girl Leonardo had tea with seemed to have like no moms in their lives. Is this like a comic book rule, moms must be dead or forgotten for the hero????

Leo being the only Turtle to take out the big baddies (Karai, Shredder, his first rate henchmen) I want to see them all equal in battle.

No more mutagen man, and stop taking the humans and turning them into mutants all of the time, it kind of makes the Turtles less special.

Casey and April getting together, I never did like this pairing, too forced.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Mona Lisa.

Because you know they'd just pair her off with Raphael. There is already the Don/April stuff and the Leo/Karai stuff, so I don't need to see a Raph/Mona Lisa (and then what would be next, Mikey/Irma?)

I think it'd be more interesting if Raph & Mikey didn't have that.

Maybe even have something in a episode in which that is touched upon (in the 'they got the girls and we don't' stuff, even if it was a throwaway line from Mikey or such).

[NinjaMan]

1. April and Donnie couple (disgusting)
2. More Irma
3.More Ice Cream Kitty

[drgon78]

1)April, Irma, or Casey getting turned into a mutant.
2)Venus
3)Mikey getting dumber or showing even less empathy.
4)No more mutating April's family, friends, or pets.
5)Splinter being dead.

[BubblyShell22]

1. I don't want Kirby to be turned into a mutant again. I feel so sorry for the poor guy.

2. Venus DeMilo.

3. Long hiatuses. I know there's not much we can do about it, but they do bug me.

4. No more plot amnesia. One thing I don't like is how crucial plots are often ignored until the situation calls for them again. I'd like to see certain plots get attention right off the bat with no void as has been seen before. Again, there's not much we can do about this, but it's just one thing that bothers me a bit. It's not something that makes me not want to watch the show, but it IS a flaw to me.

[Metalwolf]

What do I not want to see? Well off the top of my head, Rahzar watered down. No more of that, thanks. No more long hiatuses! Oh I'll have to come back to this later because Walking Dead is starting. Nuts.I agree on both. Razzy needs to be mean again like he was in 'Acne.' When I saw him just back down with Karai, I really wished I could say to him: "Come on Chris, grow a pair! You're bigger, meaner, stronger and faster now, and you say nothing when she mouths off to you? Gee, maybe you are a 'dog' like Mikey says."

Dang that would have been cathartic. Even if it made him blow like Krakatoa.

Unfortunately I can see them doing a bunch of mini hiatuses, simply to allow this season to 'stretch' out into it's scheduled ending point. I'd be willing to be they'll have one now or at least around Easter time.

Here is what I don't want:

Female mutants- I hated the idea of Mona Lisa, Alopex, Ninjara (even though she wasn't a mutant) as they either are made into a love interest, are made too 'pretty,' (they almost never look monstrous) and rarely ever are interesting.

Time Traveling: Time traveling is lame. Plus if they did it, they could just stop some of the villains from being born. No fuss, no muss.

Mondo Gecko and the Frogs: Mondo Gecko annoys me so much, I hate the way he looks (especially the head/face) and his name sounds hideous to my ears. I don't really care for the Frogs either, as frogs are squishy and cold and they tend to pee on your hands when you hold them. I actually like frogs, but this is what the Frogs remind me of.

"Turtle Prime." This was Turtles Forever unforgivable sin with me, not with showing the Mirage universe, but the forced tying together of all variants of Turtledom and that everything will get erased out of existence if this comic book universe is destroyed.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

1. I don't want Kirby to be turned into a mutant again. I feel so sorry for the poor guy.

2. Venus DeMilo.

3. Long hiatuses. I know there's not much we can do about it, but they do bug me.

4. No more plot amnesia. One thing I don't like is how crucial plots are often ignored until the situation calls for them again. I'd like to see certain plots get attention right off the bat with no void as has been seen before. Again, there's not much we can do about this, but it's just one thing that bothers me a bit. It's not something that makes me not want to watch the show, but it IS a flaw to me.
Definitely agree with these, especially number four. It was announced in The Kraang Conspiracy that April is a mutant So WHY have we not heard discussion ever since or any acknowledgement of this new found fact? There's been five episodes that have passed for crying out loud!

[FoxBoxKid]

Bebop and Rocksteady

[CyberCubed]

Bebop and Rocksteady

Too bad, they're already confirmed to be showing up eventually.

[Gwydion]

1.) Any more of this love triangle business, though I'm sure I'm out of luck on this one. Actually, let's make that romantic (sub)plots period.

2.) Even less witty/clever/fun humor in favor of an increase in the low brow/gross out humor.

There are also a ton of past characters, but I think most of them have been covered already, lol.

People should really learn to actually use the spoiler tags, by the way. Not everyone wants to know things that are going to happen in future episodes.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Too bad, they're already confirmed to be showing up eventually.

Do you have a link?

[Lou 500]

April being a petulant brat.

[Vicky82]

Things I don't want

Too many episodes focusing on Leo like the 2k3 cartoon
Venis De Milo
The Neutrinos (sorry to anyone who like them)
A storyline inolving someone getting amnesis or mind swapping
Time Traveling, too much time in different dimension or in space on another planet.
Long hiatuses or getting episodes in UK way behind the US
Making Mikey more dumber
The Punk Frogs

[CyberCubed]

Do you have a link?

See the official info thread and Playmates already has Bebop/Rocksteady toys in the Nick line with new designs. (Meaning they don't look like the OT versions, so they're based on Nick look)

[tylerdavies]

Things I don't want
Long hiatuses or getting episodes in UK way behind the US
Making Mikey more dumber

agreed with the long hiatuses - they kill me on the inside

>Making Mikey more dumber
>>more dumber
it's funny that your picture is of Mikey and you make that point sound dumb - just ironic that's all no insult intended :trazz:

1.)
2.) Even less witty/clever/fun humor in favor of an increase in the low brow/gross out humor.


I agree - I personally believe that cleverly written humor trumps "low-brow" humor anyday - and Nick has proved to me it can be clever-funny at times

Bebop and Rocksteady

I don't care too much as long as they don't rehash their 80s characters - give them some thought instead of trying to please nostalgia

I don't want it to become too silly like the OT or too serious like 2k3. This series is known for being the middle between the two and I'd like it to stay that way.

agree completely - the mixture of both is what gives this show its own charm

1. April and Donnie couple (disgusting)
2. More Irma
3.More Ice Cream Kitty

1. (disgusting) - LMAO
2. I'm indifferent as long as she doesn't become a boring side character
3. I think you're out of luck pal

[cryan]

The hiatus is very annoying to me also.

That really is about it. I don't want Venus to show up. Really didn't like the character in NM series. Though I only saw one episode and that was enough.

[DarthEmpress]

My biggest fear - more mutants - has already been confirmed for Season 3. If we actually get a female mutant, I'll be surprised.

Other than that, I don't want Karai turning 100% good.

[kolaida]

I don't want Karai turning all wholesome and 100% good, either. Some good, yeah. I don't want her to remain totally on the "bad" side, but I kinda think she would fit well somewhere in between. She puts off that kind of spirit/attitude.

[Cure]

Agent Bishop.

[MCLeo28]

The lack of a mother figure somewhere in this show. (The Turtles, April, Karai, Casey and hell, even the little girl Leonardo had tea with seemed to have like no moms in their lives. Is this like a comic book rule, moms must be dead or forgotten for the hero????

Leo being the only Turtle to take out the big baddies (Karai, Shredder, his first rate henchmen) I want to see them all equal in battle.

No more mutagen man, and stop taking the humans and turning them into mutants all of the time, it kind of makes the Turtles less special.

Casey and April getting together, I never did like this pairing, too forced.

I do agree with this. It's a good thing that Season 2 seems to be focusing on older mutants as even the Squirrelanoids are in the new Opening implying their return.

Also hoping that Leo doesn't overpower the other turtles, but at this point, they're doing pretty well and even Mikey seems relatively equal to the turtles now.

@tylerdavies

Lol, it's also a good thing that your grammar is terrible, so your point is moot.

[Ashwolf]

1. Vernon
2. those punk frogs
3. neutrinos - were 2 goofy 4 my taste(though will accept if they show up)

[Warhorse]

Also hoping that Leo doesn't overpower the other turtles, but at this point, they're doing pretty well and even Mikey seems relatively equal to the turtles now.

@tylerdavies

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Yeah, I really hate that, and it tends to make me resent Leo a little bit (when I don't want to, because he's generally my second favorite Turtle) But it should be a team effort! Like, say, I don't mind Leo giving the final blow to Shredder, but have it a team effort, like Donnie uses his gadgets to pave the way, Mikey distracts the Shredder with his speed and Raph comes and uses his power to fling Leo towards The Shredder for the final blow (like he did with Casey to get the foot soldier in The Good, the Bad and Casey Jones)

[Coola Yagami]

A female mutant is long overdue. Apparently with Mutagen raining all over the city, having a vagina makes you immune to the effects.

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

I agree with sentiment that I would not like to see a romance between April and Donny fully flourish.

However, I am perfectly fine with seeing more of Donatello's growing infatuation with April. Maybe after awhile, it slowly begins to sink in to Donatello's mind that his want for a relationship with April is simply inconceivable, and that for her well being, he has to forgo it. This realization that occurs to Donatello may be tragic, but it can lead to many interesting possibilities, and more importantly, it shows another one of the turtles maturing and selflessly sacrificing something of their own for the greater good. An episode devoted to this could be a fantastic dissection of his character, and bring the April/Donatello arc at a satisfying close.

[Coola Yagami]

Naw, let them hook up. Otherwise all of this would have been a waste of our time. Casey just came out of nowhere and already started treating April as if he she was 'his girl'. Don has to step up.

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

Naw, let them hook up. Otherwise all of this would have been a waste of our time. Casey just came out of nowhere and already started treating April as if he she was 'his girl'. Don has to step up.

No, it wouldn't have been. As I said, if Donatello finally lets go of the idea of being with April romantically, it isn't him giving up or submitting out of shyness, or even cowardice. It's him maturely moving on and growing up. It's a bold and noble sacrifice. He's no longer a hopeless romantic, and is now step closer to full maturity.

[snake]

1 Venus
2- Venus
3- Venus
4- April Mutating
5- Venus

[blindturtle02]

The Bads from Donatello's Bad Time! They can stay in the 87 series, thanks. I like them just fine, but they wouldn't fit in 2012. Although Paulsen's Pat Buttram always makes me laugh. Classic!

[Coola Yagami]

No, it wouldn't have been. As I said, if Donatello finally lets go of the idea of being with April romantically, it isn't him giving up or submitting out of shyness, or even cowardice. It's him maturely moving on and growing up. It's a bold and noble sacrifice. He's no longer a hopeless romantic, and is now step closer to full maturity.

Which might work for a long-lasting never-ending comic book series, but not in this format. It's gonna be almost embarassing to look back at season 1 and 2 and see Donnie crush all over April basically 'wasting his time'.

Kinda hope he finds someone else. One does not just.... abandon love and immerse themselves in their work. If April doesn't work, I hope they have enough sense to make him look elsewhere and not just act as if the crush thing we've seen for 2 seasons never happened.

[CyberCubed]

A female mutant is long overdue. Apparently with Mutagen raining all over the city, having a vagina makes you immune to the effects.

Ninjara, Mona Lisa and Alopex are nothing more than love interests. Do we really need another ship in this show?

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

Which might work for a long-lasting never-ending comic book series, but not in this format. It's gonna be almost embarassing to look back at season 1 and 2 and see Donnie crush all over April basically 'wasting his time'.

Kinda hope he finds someone else. One does not just.... abandon love and immerse themselves in their work. If April doesn't work, I hope they have enough sense to make him look elsewhere and not just act as if the crush thing we've seen for 2 seasons never happened.

Teenagers crush over women all the time. I'm not saying that Donatello should abandon all hope for love, it's just that mingling with a human romantically is going a bit too far. It simply cannot happen. Also, I simply fail to see how time was ever wasted during this story arc. It's not embarrassing either. If a character has a rivalry with another character and that rivalry ends, would that mean their rivalry was pointless? Of course not. The characters have changed in some way and will do things differently in ways they've never have before. Also, I don't recall the April/Donatello relationship to ever be all that intrinsic to the plot anyhow. It needs to be resolved soon because it's running out of steam.

Besides, why do the Turtles need romantic interests anyway, exactly?

[ZariusTwo]

it's just that mingling with a human romantically is going a bit too far. It simply cannot happen.

Why exactly is that? You see interspecies romances played straight and for laughs in children's movies all the time these days. Besides, Leonardo and Radical had a relationship in the Mirage continuity's far future so that messes up your idea of things right there.

Besides, why do the Turtles need romantic interests anyway, exactly?

Because it's actually interesting and something rarely done with the characters, the whole "sons of the silent age" aspect has been played to death and if you don't evolve characters and give them new angles to develop, you're left with a pretty stale bunch that don't have much mass appeal except to generic angsty twentysometings who can't get laid. Some of us actually CAN and would like to relate to characters who can do the same.

[Luckyday]

The more I think about it, it's probably more likely for them to be solely attract to humans. It's not matter of choice but it's more of a subconscious level and a side effect of being raise ( of what I can only assume) in isolation from not being able interact with any other mutants only knowing for sure that humans exist. In any case they're more likely be attracted to mutants of mammal variety that look very similar to human women, except maybe Mikey.:lol:

Now this doesn't mean they can't fall for reptile mutants but if they had a choice between two girls who both openly attracted to them but one of them looks human and other is reptile with zero mammal traits (no hair, no boobs). They would go for the human. Hell falling for a female turtle of same species would take a lot mental effort because in their head they would look too much like a boy.

[Karai Samurai]

1. Apritello past this season.
2. Any female turtles.
3. Mutant overload/just throwing in mutants to sell toys.
4. Another generic Kraang episode.
5. The flanderization of Mikey or any other character.
6. Donnie not being developed outside of his relationship with April.
7. April not being developed outside of her relationships with Casey and Donnie.

[Lone Ranger Ninjutsu]

Why exactly is that? You see interspecies romances played straight and for laughs in children's movies all the time these days. Besides, Leonardo and Radical had a relationship in the Mirage continuity's far future so that messes up your idea of things right there.

Because it's actually interesting and something rarely done with the characters, the whole "sons of the silent age" aspect has been played to death and if you don't evolve characters and give them new angles to develop, you're left with a pretty stale bunch that don't have much mass appeal except to generic angsty twentysometings who can't get laid. Some of us actually CAN and would like to relate to characters who can do the same.
I guess it depends on how you classify inter-species romances. In films like Kung Fu Panda for example, species is never acknowledged outside of the physical differences between the species. It's never made a point to address due to the nature of the world they live in. In Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, species is incredibly important, what with all the mutations and alien species all about. The alternate earth they live on has similar perceptions to our own, and view species differently than other kinds of fictional realms. For them, I doubt it's as acceptable to have an inter-species romance as it is in some other kid's films like Kung Fu Panda.

And also, they aren't in their twenties in the Nick show, I believe. They're teenagers. Angst and not getting laid is kind of an inherit trait of being a teenager (I would know, sadly). You can still relate with other things about the characters, but relating to a character isn't the primary importance. I don't think many people identified with Batman, but it doesn't make him any less a complex character with tons of avenues to explore.

We'll simply have to agree to disagree. Personally, I feel there are infinite possibilities to develop the characters outside of romance. In my opinion, love interests and love subplots are done to death in modern TV and film. I also don't think it's a theme that works with this kind of fiction.
It's something that does warrant attention though. I think there are ways to do this, but I don't think the Nick show has done it correctly, and I have no idea how they'll continue. It'll be interesting to find out.

The more I think about it, it's probably more likely for them to be solely attract to humans. It's not matter of choice but it's more of a subconscious level and a side effect of being raise ( of what I can only assume) in isolation from not being able interact with any other mutants only knowing for sure that humans exist.
I really don't want to get into "Turtle Anatomy." It's something that I don't think the authors would have though of during the characters' conception and something that doesn't really need to be pointed out during the show. Still, it's a good idea.

[Luckyday]

I really don't want to get into "Turtle Anatomy." It's something that I don't think the authors would have though of during the characters' conception and something that doesn't really need to be pointed out during the show. Still, it's a good idea.

More like turtle psychology, which is something that we only saw a rare glimpse of in Sons of the Silent age. I can't help but wanting to know more of what goes on in those green little heads. It's the kind of stuff that makes xenofiction so cool to read.

[DarthEmpress]

Ninjara, Mona Lisa and Alopex are nothing more than love interests. Do we really need another ship in this show?

New female mutants don't have to be teenagers. If they were adults in the Foot Clan (looks like the place to be for mutants...), they wouldn't be portrayed as love interests. This show has enough shipping with the Casey/April/Don love triangle going on.

[BabyTurtles]

New female mutants don't have to be teenagers. If they were adults in the Foot Clan (looks like the place to be for mutants...), they wouldn't be portrayed as love interests. This show has enough shipping with the Casey/April/Don love triangle going on.

Tell me about it.

anyway, if they did introduce Alopex (which would be AWESOME) I'd like her to be older (like at least 20) so no love stuff can come from it.

at this point...I want all the new girls to be either older or younger (than the turtles) just so they won't turn into a love interest :D

[Warhorse]

Teenagers crush over woman all the time. I'm not saying that Donatello should abandon all hope for love, it's just that mingling with a human romantically is going a bit too far. It simply cannot happen. Also, I simply fail to see how time was ever wasted during this story arc. It's not embarrassing either. If a character has a rivalry with another character and that rivalry ends, would that mean their rivalry was pointless? Of course not. The characters have changed in some way and will do things differently in ways they've never have before. Also, I don't recall the April/Donatello relationship to ever be all that intrinsic to the plot anyhow. It needs to be resolved soon because it's running out of steam.

Besides, why do the Turtles need romantic interests anyway, exactly?

Teenagers crush period! Either it be boys or girl. And why do the Turtles need romantic interest. They really don't, but it's happened in previous installments, so why not?