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TMNTGUY4EVER
07-18-2003, 04:28 PM
I was just wonderin what is the worst disney movie of all time and then just the worst movie of all time

Wingnut
07-18-2003, 04:30 PM
Hmmm Jason X sucked pretty bad

TMNTGUY4EVER
07-18-2003, 04:32 PM
i know i think that is like the 5th suckiest movie of all time, What is the worst disney movie you've ever seen

Wingnut
07-18-2003, 04:43 PM
Treasure Planet SUCKED!

Kameko
07-18-2003, 04:49 PM
Young Einstein.

Seriously, I watched about ten minutes and had to turn it off. It was worse than Lion King II, and that is BAD. :dead:

Taloniss
07-18-2003, 05:38 PM
Don't watch Disney films.
Worst Movie Ever = The Ring

Leo33
07-18-2003, 05:58 PM
I also hated the ring. The worst part is it seamed like everyone else I talked to loved it.

Brodie
07-18-2003, 06:40 PM
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3. or Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next generation.WAIT: FANTASTIC FOUR

Psycrow
07-18-2003, 07:51 PM
Hm... can't think of a bad disney film really, all their huge titles seem to do quite well.

Worst movie of all time though? Has to be either Battlefield Earth (such rubbish), Python or Python 2, and Crack in the Floor (hey now, AC Slater is in it!!). Those movies are the worst things I've ever seen.

EZweasel
07-18-2003, 08:16 PM
Hmmm Jason X sucked pretty bad

i actually thought Jason X was alright...now what sucked was friday the 13th 1 and jason goes to hell... those are the only 3 i seen and jason X was the best...but onto the worst movie ever...hmmmm im gona have to go with ..im actually thinking friday the 13th part 1 right now because thats the only thing i can think of but i know theres alot more that are terrible.

Leo656
07-18-2003, 08:46 PM
I must be weird cuz I liked Lion King II. But then again I'm just a Lion King mark so that could explain it.

Worst Disney movie? I'unno, I haven't seen anywhere near enough to be able to judge that.

Worst movie I've seen is probably a toss-up between "Santa With Muscles" and "Three Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain", both Hulk Hogan movies. I'll give 3 Ninjas the nod, though, because Hulk Hogan gets beaten up by Loni Anderson. Repeatedly.

Raven
07-18-2003, 09:02 PM
hhhhhmm batman and robin!!!!!!!!!!!!

Caster_Troy
07-18-2003, 09:53 PM
Titanic.
Not even the special effects could make up for how much it sucked. I think that whole idea should have been axed so that they could make another 'Evil dead' or 'Hot Male Dancers Go Wild in Vegas' movie.

I could have saved those move people millions. Here is the new script the way Titanic should have been done if it had to be at all.

Rose: "Oh Jack, I love you."
Jack: "Oh rose I love you, too but we can ever be together."
Rose: "It's OK, Jack you're going to die anyway, saving me."
Jack: "...The hell? Well then get in that bedroom. If i'm dying for you, I'm damn well getting something for it."
(Boat sinks. Stuff blows up. Somehow Jack gets gored by a bull {I just wanna see Leo get gored is all} The End)

Pointblank
07-18-2003, 10:30 PM
Those Air Bud, the dog who plays beaseball, basketball etc.. and the Chimp hockey movie and the other ones with animals doing sports disney movies. Does anyone even watch those things...
Terrible Terrible...

That Matt Guy
07-18-2003, 10:37 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: http://www.badmovies.org

Reznorite420
07-18-2003, 11:05 PM
Can't rightly think of any bad Disney movies yet...

Worst overall movie? Unbreakable.

Fugitoid Jones
07-19-2003, 12:29 AM
Well, just off the top of my head, some all time stinker films are Batman and Robin, Caddyshack 2, Little Nicky, Critters 2-4, JackAss:the movie, Monkeybone, Anacanda, Just about any Martin Lawerence movie, and Lost in Space. Worst Disney movie? Try any of the horrible sequels their coming out with. They can't think of any new or fresh ideas, so they make really crappy sequels to just about anything. Just surprised they haven't done Bambi 2: the Return of Bambi's Mom! I will give Disney this, they at least still have their collaborations with Pixar that are good.

Fugitoid Jones
07-19-2003, 12:33 AM
Oh yeah, and Reznorite420, don't dis Unbreakable. That's a good movie.

The Stryker
07-19-2003, 01:08 AM
Martin Lawerence Movies are cool (bad boys,national security and runteldat ruled!!)

the worst disney movie i ever seen is: Pirates Of the carribean (let the flaming begin!!!)

The worst movie....ever:its a toss up between batman and robin and...."plan 9" :D

Loolaa
07-19-2003, 02:24 AM
I really liked Unbreakable. :lol:
As for bad Disney movies, I've never seen the straight to video ones but I've heard they're bad. Personally I hated The Little Mermaid, but there are proberbly worse Disney movies around.
I don't tend to watch movies if I think I'm going to hate them, but I remember the Garbage Pail Kids movie being awful, and the Care Bears ones...
More recently...Cats and Dogs. I went to the cinema thinking it'd be funny judging by the two clips I'd seen, but it turned out they were the only two funny parts in the movie anyway.

Psycrow
07-19-2003, 02:56 AM
Can't rightly think of any bad Disney movies yet...

Worst overall movie? Unbreakable.

Oh God, I saw Unbreakable in the theatres when it first came out...

Talk about... dissapointed... to the max!

That Matt Guy
07-19-2003, 05:21 AM
:lol: These choices are laughable. It's obvious none of you are fans of trash films.

Moomintroll
07-19-2003, 10:47 AM
Thats a lie! I love trash films! Anything B-Rated with many legged monsters, or anything with boobies or anything with Rob Zombie I am all over.

Now, for the bad and the ugly:
1)OK, any movie J-low ever "acted" in is CRAP, same as Meg Ryan, Sally met Harry my ASS...


Worst Disney Movie:

Hunchback of Noterdame - such a beautiful tragic story, RUINED by Disney, that Nazi asshole, (Yes, he gave Nazis money during WWII)
So if you haven't seen it: Kwazimoto, the ugly one, saves the day and the hot guy lays unconcious the whole time, and at the end, the hot guy wakes up and gets the girl anyways. That movie teaches us that no matter how good and nice you are, the hot will always win.

Worst movies:

2)"To Die For" was the only movie I left the theater from

3)"The Cradle will Rock" WAS ****ING AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4)"Titanic" - WHY!? I don't understand! Why? Who let Leonardo deCaprio ACT!? - Kate sorta gave it SOME quility....

5)Adaptation - I really like Nicholas Cage, Maryl Streep and everyone who worked on that movie, so I don' understand why it was so bad...

6)Anything by Stanly Kubrick (hides cause people seem to think he is good...)

That Matt Guy
07-19-2003, 10:51 AM
Titanic is a good movie, but forget Leo and Kate though; the boat and the iceberg were the real stars.

That Matt Guy
07-19-2003, 10:57 AM
6)Anything by Stanly Kubrick (hides cause people seem to think he is good...)

Who said that? Who the f*** said that? Who's the slimy little communist s***, tinkle-toed c**ksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh?! The fairy f***ing godmother said it! Out-F***ing-standing! I will PT you all until you f***ing die! I'll PT you until your a***holes are sucking buttermilk.

Full Metal Jacket is his best movie.

Leo656
07-19-2003, 10:58 AM
What I hated about Titanic was the damned teenage girls in the theatres.

"Like, ok, omigawd, but like... that movie was, like, SO great! But like, it was like really, realy SAD, like, omigawd! I mean did it HAVE to be like SO sad? Like did the boat like HAVE to sink? I mean, like, why?"

Why? Why? Because the BOAT FRIGGIN' SANK YOU AIRHEADED TWIT!!! :evil:

See that's why I went dateless in high school. Girls hate it when you're honest like that. :P

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 10:58 AM
Oh yeah, and Reznorite420, don't dis Unbreakable. That's a good movie.How can you call a movie that made no sense and was impossible to understand and had no point good?

Leo656
07-19-2003, 10:59 AM
Oh yeah, and Reznorite420, don't dis Unbreakable. That's a good movie.How can you call a movie that made no sense and was impossible to understand and had no point good?

Well hey... the same can be said for "Dude, Where's My Car?", Rez. :lol:

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 11:03 AM
Yes, but "Dude, Where's My Car?" was INTENTIONALLY made that way. It was a comedy, and that's what they were AIMING for. I'm pretty sure the creators of Unbreakable weren't planning on their movie backfiring the way it did.

Leo656, you are the King of Fallacies.

Leo656
07-19-2003, 11:08 AM
And you're apparently the king of smarmy, self-important know-it-alls, so step off before I lose my patience with you.

A bad movie is a bad movie, and anything with Ashton Kutcher in it is a bad movie. Period.

I don't know what your problem with me lately is, but I kindly suggest you chill.

Moomintroll
07-19-2003, 11:08 AM
Who said that? Who the f*** said that? Who's the slimy little communist s***, tinkle-toed c**ksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh?! The fairy f***ing godmother said it! Out-F***ing-standing! I will PT you all until you f***ing die! I'll PT you until your a***holes are sucking buttermilk.

Full Metal Jacket is his best movie.


haha
oooops, fogot, I do like that one, but I dislike everything else
like Clockwork Orange killed the point of the book, Space Odessy sucked, Shining was plain boring, and don't get me going on Eyes Wide Shut!!!!

Leo656
07-19-2003, 11:16 AM
I didn't get why "Eyes Wide Shut" was supposed to be so great. I mean there were some nice boobs in there but nothing spectacular. And the orgy scene was edited to hell. I've seen the uncensored scenes and they still weren't good enough to raise it above "blah" for me. I'unno.

Mr. Snackpants
07-19-2003, 11:32 AM
I'll tell you the worst movie of all time, I had to sit through the damn thing in my language class. "Romeo and Juliet", not the old one, but the modern one with leonardo dicaprio(sp?) It was romeo and juliet in the cities fighting with guns and singing and **** like that. It was never in theaters but its a movie and it counts. WORST movie EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

Leo656
07-19-2003, 11:39 AM
Seems like poor Leo has a recurring theme of bad movies. :lol:

I liked "The Basketball Diaries", for what it's worth. Maybe because I find Leo DiCaprio strung out on heroin and pissing himself to be rather amusing in a perverse sort of way.

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 12:19 PM
And you're apparently the king of smarmy, self-important know-it-alls, so step off before I lose my patience with you.You want to lose your patience with me, fine, your problem. Apparently it's a crime to be logical nowadays, and I don't know where you got the idea of me being a "smarmary, self-important, know-it-all" from anyway. Your problem is you get upset every time you're proven wrong because apparently YOU are the one who seems to be the know-it-all around here, considering many of the uber-long posts you've written lately.A bad movie is a bad movie, and anything with Ashton Kutcher in it is a bad movie. Period.Whoa, time out! When did I ever say "Dude, Where's My Car?" was a good movie? If anything, I hate it as much as you do. I've never seen it, but I still hate it :D OK, so maybe that was a bit fallacious too, but hey, the TV spots alone turned me off from it.I don't know what your problem with me lately is, but I kindly suggest you chill.First off, I don't have a problem with you personally. In fact, I've been trying to get along with you on here and maybe be a buddy on the forums (JUST in the forums, though). The worst thing that could happen is for us to enemies online. I'd hate to see two intellectuals like you and me who should get along extremely well BASED on the fact that we're intellectuals turn into blood enemies for the same reason. The only problem I have is getting told off whenever I say my own opinion about something (which 9 times out of 10 is the exact opposite of the mainstream) and then having said person who told me off turning around and regarding their opinion about something being a fact. I'm pretty sure that has happened more than once here on the forums, and not just to me either :D

I don't want anything to get out of hand (mainly for my own sake, after-effects of stuff like this have gotten me banned from other forums, and I don't want to make the same mistake here, otherwise it'll prove I haven't learned anything when in fact I have), so I ask here and now:

"Can't we all just get along?"

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 12:23 PM
I'll tell you the worst movie of all time, I had to sit through the damn thing in my language class. "Romeo and Juliet", not the old one, but the modern one with leonardo dicaprio(sp?) It was romeo and juliet in the cities fighting with guns and singing and sh** like that. It was never in theaters but its a movie and it counts.Ummm, as far as I remember, it WAS in theaters. But you're right, it was kinda bad. Anybody remember the suggestion I made a while back where I suggested that since it did take place in modern times instead of 16th century Verona, then they should've at least re-written the story into modern vernacular?

If I find the post, I'll show it. It'll take time since I have over 2000 posts, but it's there!

Moomintroll
07-19-2003, 12:26 PM
Seems like poor Leo has a recurring theme of bad movies.

I liked "The Basketball Diaries", for what it's worth. Maybe because I find Leo DiCaprio strung out on heroin and pissing himself to be rather amusing in a perverse sort of way.
HAHA
it was also better before they cut out all the good scenes

Leo656
07-19-2003, 12:43 PM
I don't have a problem with you on a personal level either, Rez, but you have a habit of taking yourself and your opinions (and that IS all they are) way too seriously, to the point of stating them as facts, when they aren't. In this case, I don't even see why the hell THIS thread got involved, because I made a joke about "Dude..." being pointless and impossible to understand, and there was nothing to "prove" or disprove. You reacted defensively as if I had challenged you or something, when I didn't. There was nothing for you to "prove me wrong" about in this case. So what I said stands: just relax.

Maybe that's why I replied so harshly, because there was NO reason whatsoever for you to make the statement you did within the context of this thread/conversation, and it aggravated me.

In any case, I haven't reacted poorly or immaturely when proven wrong because, quite frankly, nobody around here has done that yet. See, the only way that can happen is if people state facst and not opinions. And that's what 99% of the conversations around here are: opinions. If I state my opinion, I may state it simply and matter-of-factly (i.e., "Titanic was a pile of dog sh*t"), but it's still just an opinion, thus there is nothing to prove or disprove.

So yeah, we can all just get along, just stop reading too much into things people type and we'll be fine. The last thing I want or need is someone else to argue with around here like the one guy whose name I'm not gonna say, or the guy whose banning I contributed to.

After all, I'd hate to write a John Cena rap about you. :lol:

Wingnut
07-19-2003, 01:00 PM
What I hated about Titanic was the damned teenage girls in the theatres.

"Like, ok, omigawd, but like... that movie was, like, SO great! But like, it was like really, realy SAD, like, omigawd! I mean did it HAVE to be like SO sad? Like did the boat like HAVE to sink? I mean, like, why?"

Why? Why? Because the BOAT FRIGGIN' SANK YOU AIRHEADED TWIT!!! :evil:

See that's why I went dateless in high school. Girls hate it when you're honest like that. :P
Yes the "Valley Girl" jibber jabber took about me out of the movie

Leo656
07-19-2003, 01:05 PM
So many of them didn't even know the boat sank, I swear. I mean, that was the point of the damn movie.

Moomintroll: There were deleted scenes from "Basketball Diaries"? What were they? I'm interested.

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 01:18 PM
HA! Found it!

http://www.thetechnodrome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=83974&highlight=romeo+juliet#83974

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 01:22 PM
Leo: Quit telling me to relax, because, for all intents and purposes, I was never bitter in writing those posts.

BTW, how was I being "defensive"? I was just trying to prove a point.

Leo656
07-19-2003, 01:23 PM
If nothing else, I think that movie would be a lot more entertaining than the DiCaprio one, Rez. It might not win any Oscars, but at least it wouldn't make me wanna kill myself or feel like my brain was constantly losing more and more brain cells as the movie went on... like the actual version of R+J did.

If you ever decide to make this flick yourself, I wouldn't mind producing it. We'd make the best version of R+J ever.

Raven
07-19-2003, 01:26 PM
oh um that remake of romeo and juielet
with leonardo D(cant spell is last name)
that movie sucked so badely

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 01:27 PM
I'll film it, send you the raw video of it...and then you can add the extra blood :D

Why not rename it to "Ray and Julie"? That's modern...

Albrecht
07-19-2003, 01:28 PM
worst disney movie=tie between all sequels
worst movie= kangaroo jack

Leo656
07-19-2003, 01:28 PM
I'm down. Who should we cast? Should we try and be semi-serious and get real actors, or should we go all-out camp and just hire porn stars and B-movie actors/actresses?

God knows if Hollywood made it now, Britney Spears would be Juliet and Ashton Kutcher or Eminem would be Romeo. :dead:

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 01:30 PM
Why not just have one person playing all the parts?

Hey, all the roles were played by men in Shakespeare's time :D

Leo656
07-19-2003, 01:31 PM
Good idea, we should have Pee-Wee Herman do it. He can play anything.

Raven
07-19-2003, 01:32 PM
Why not just have one person playing all the parts?

Hey, all the roles were played by men in Shakespeare's time :D
:lol: oh man I forgot about that!

Reznorite420
07-19-2003, 01:32 PM
Knowing how he made love to himself in the past, solves that problem.

Leo656
07-19-2003, 01:33 PM
Bwaa-ha-ha-haaaa...

Poor Pee-Wee. he didn't do anything any of us haven't done, he just got caught. :(

Raven
07-19-2003, 01:50 PM
what ever happened to pee wee
he was in that show you dont know jack.....funny hes in a show with the word jack
and he was caught doing somthing with the word jack..weird

That Matt Guy
07-19-2003, 02:49 PM
Remember Operation Dumbo Drop?

InsaneZane
07-19-2003, 04:44 PM
did anybody mention
Mortal Kombat Annihilation :dead:

Barkworm
07-19-2003, 05:05 PM
I'll film it, send you the raw video of it...and then you can add the extra blood :D

Why not rename it to "Ray and Julie"? That's modern...
How about "Ray and Jules"? It could be a modern love-movie about tolerance towards homosexuality. Send me some money if you take my idea! :D

Raven
07-19-2003, 08:31 PM
oh how about the crow 2 city of angels

Mr. Snackpants
07-19-2003, 08:41 PM
I'll tell you the worst movie of all time, I had to sit through the damn thing in my language class. "Romeo and Juliet", not the old one, but the modern one with leonardo dicaprio(sp?) It was romeo and juliet in the cities fighting with guns and singing and sh** like that. It was never in theaters but its a movie and it counts.Ummm, as far as I remember, it WAS in theaters. But you're right, it was kinda bad. Anybody remember the suggestion I made a while back where I suggested that since it did take place in modern times instead of 16th century Verona, then they should've at least re-written the story into modern vernacular?

If I find the post, I'll show it. It'll take time since I have over 2000 posts, but it's there!
Are you kiddin'?That **** was in theaters???baaahahaha

liltimmyw
07-19-2003, 09:52 PM
did anybody mention
Mortal Kombat Annihilation :dead:

Without a doubt, that is the worst film of all time.

Reznorite420
07-20-2003, 09:24 AM
oh how about the crow 2 city of angels :-?

That one actually had the mood and feel of Crow movie. Salvation, on the other hand, with its big-name cast, lost that feel. Too light-hearted.

Reznorite420
07-20-2003, 09:25 AM
did anybody mention
Mortal Kombat Annihilation :dead:I did, in the worst movie sequels thread.

TheShredder
07-20-2003, 01:22 PM
Signs

Knuckles
07-20-2003, 02:25 PM
Easily, and without a doubt, the single worst movie ever made in the history of the universe HAS to be "Manos: The Hands of Fate." Fans of MST3K should know this title. Until I just checked imdb.com, it was #1 on the worst movies list. Currently that slot is being taken up by "From Justin to Kelly," some American Idol trash, which although it must be atrocious, it certainly can't top Manos in that category, (yes, of course, I immediately voted a 10 for the thing, just to do my part to put Manos back where it belongs). If anyone here watched the Comedy Central episodes of MST3K, you'll remember that Dr. Clayton Forrester and TV's Frank sent Joel into space, leaving him on the satellite of love, where they sent him bad movies which he proceeded to watch and make fun of with his robot pals. Well, the scientists were pretty evil, but even they apologized for sending them that movie. It went beyond bad. In fact, I'm convinced that no ordinary human could watch it without the MST3K treatment without suffering ebola-like effects within the first 20 minutes. This is not a movie--this is a weapon of unimaginable and horrible power. And that is an understatement. Following that, the 3 other worst movies ever would be: "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within," (not even vaguely like any of the games from the then-great RPG series, and terrible on its own) "Street Fighter," (the live-action movie based on the video game) and "Batman & Robin," (a horrible travesty to any Bat-fan).

Raven
07-20-2003, 07:41 PM
oh how about the crow 2 city of angels :-?

That one actually had the mood and feel of Crow movie. Salvation, on the other hand, with its big-name cast, lost that feel. Too light-hearted.

I liked the salvation one better, I mean athe city of angels just sucked
but I still think savaltion could of been better, but it was better than city of angels

EZweasel
07-20-2003, 07:50 PM
i know now what the two worst movies of all time are....sum of all fears and blue crush ..both of those movies where boring and trash!

That Matt Guy
07-20-2003, 08:49 PM
Easily, and without a doubt, the single worst movie ever made in the history of the universe HAS to be "Manos: The Hands of Fate."

:lol: I've seen the actual movie, not the Mystery Science Theater version. :dead:

Stone Ill
07-20-2003, 10:33 PM
I'm glad that nobody mentioned The Cable Guy because that movie owned. And if you say any different, you'll have to answer to "Chuck Douglas". (points to avatar)

Anyways, the worst movie..or one of the worst movies, would be..

Santa With Muscles



Never, ever! make a movie with Hulk Hogan dressed as Santa Claus. Another one would be the other one with Hogan..that one where he babysits those kids.

Leo656
07-20-2003, 10:42 PM
That'd be "Mr. Nanny". And yeah that sucked too. But it sucked nowhere near as bad as "Santa With Muscles" or "3 Ninjas: high noon at Mega Mountain". Hogan's hairpiece did a better acting job than anyone in that flick.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan
07-20-2003, 10:54 PM
The only movie Hulk Hogan ever did that I actually liked was the one that aired on TNT. It was called "Assault on Devil's Island." I remember thinking how weird it was that he was playing a good guy in the movie while also being WCW's number one bad guy at the same time.

That was the only movie in which Hogan was believable. He wasn't prancing around in a tiara, and he had decent actors working alongside him.

"That's the bottom line!" - Hogan, from "Assault on Devil's Island"

Leo656
07-20-2003, 11:00 PM
Yeah, that was definitely a good movie. He had Carl Weathers and the head of Cobra Kai from the Karate Kid flicks alongside him, how could it not be great? You got the most elite fighting unit in movie history: Apollo Creed, John Kreese, and Hulk Hogan... what could be better? :lol:

That was a much better movie than I was used to seeing from Hogan. Pissed me off that it took so long for him to get it "right", and in a movie that wasn't even in theatres no less.

Stone Ill
07-21-2003, 12:00 AM
That'd be "Mr. Nanny". And yeah that sucked too. But it sucked nowhere near as bad as "Santa With Muscles" or "3 Ninjas: high noon at Mega Mountain". Hogan's hairpiece did a better acting job than anyone in that flick.

Yeah..I had feeling it had Nanny in it.

That Matt Guy
07-21-2003, 10:42 AM
Why is George Jefferson in every Hulk Hogan movie?

Leo656
07-21-2003, 10:45 AM
:lol: He's not, just that one. Honest.

EZweasel
07-21-2003, 02:58 PM
mr. nanny was hulk hogans funniest movie. i loved it. and surburban commando was his best i liked it alot to but in a diferent way.

Stone Ill
07-21-2003, 07:17 PM
I actually don't remember much about Mr. Nanny because I haven't seen it in about 4-5 years, but I remember being oddly disturbed.

liltimmyw
07-21-2003, 08:29 PM
Hogan's movies are so cheesy and crappy, yet I love them because of it. :D

Reznorite420
07-21-2003, 08:35 PM
OH! Wait! Don't forget The Scorpion King!

The Bossanova
07-23-2003, 07:47 PM
Heres a better question ... which comic book movie is the worst..im going with x-men..but if u dont read comics u wont understand where im coming from

That Matt Guy
07-23-2003, 08:29 PM
The worst comic book movie is Superman: the Quest for Peace.

The Bossanova
07-23-2003, 08:32 PM
yeah that sucked too

Raven
07-23-2003, 09:16 PM
batman and robin!!!!!

Reznorite420
07-23-2003, 09:59 PM
Hey now! What was so bad about Superman 4?

The Bossanova
07-23-2003, 10:21 PM
the question is..what was right about it?

Leo656
07-23-2003, 11:47 PM
Superman 4 was horrible for lots of reasons.

Lousy "cut n paste" special effects

Ridiculous powers ("Rebuild-The-Great-Wall Vision" from Supes being particularly irritating)

Choppy script (try and track down the Superman IV movie adptation from DC Comics, it's written from the *original* script, which bears little resemblance to the movie thaht actually ended up being made)

Nuclear Man kidnapping Margeux Hemingway and taking her, unprotected, into outer space. Far, far into outer space. And she didn't die. Her lungs were not sucked of all oxygen, and her head did not explode. That, more than anything, is un-f*cking-forgiveable. I can believe in Superman. I can NOT believe that scriptwriters who get paid millions of dollars DON'T KNOW 2ND-GRADE SCIENCE.

It had potential to be a decent movie, but it failed on every single level. It's only a few steps above the Fantastic Four movie as far as being almost a complete waste of time, and it comes off even worse because everyone involved KNEW FF would fail. Superman IV at least had potential.

Keep in mind, this is coming from a life-long Superman fan. It pains me to be so objective, but I must be. Superman IV is awful.

The Bossanova
07-23-2003, 11:53 PM
very true my friend

The Defibrillator
07-24-2003, 02:19 AM
I just would like to say that

1) I COMPLETELY agree with Rez in the fact that he thought Unbreakable was the worst movie ever. It was SO CHEESY! The worst part was when his son got out the gun and it got all emotional and stuff. I was like, what kind of psychopathic child are you raising? anyways.....

2) the worst disney movie ever would have to be Jungle Book 2. If I had seen Lion King 2, Cinderella 2, Pocahontas 2, or Peter Pan 2, I'm pretty sure one of those would be worse though.

Raven
07-24-2003, 07:36 AM
every disney movie is good until you hit 10 years old or some age around there than they just plain suck
and should go to hell :evilgrin:

but even worse is disney games............but not kingdom hearts(but they had help from sony on that)

The Bossanova
07-24-2003, 10:13 AM
very well said major

Raven
07-24-2003, 12:14 PM
oh no bossanova said very well said.....to me.......im scared :o

Reznorite420
07-24-2003, 01:24 PM
Lousy "cut n paste" special effectsI'll give you that much...the worst sequence I saw was when Nuclear Man scratched Superman on the face. Don't get me started on the terrible overlapping. To this day I faint every time I see it.Nuclear Man kidnapping Margeux Hemingway and taking her, unprotected, into outer space. Far, far into outer space. And she didn't die. Her lungs were not sucked of all oxygen, and her head did not explode. That, more than anything, is un-f*cking-forgiveable. I can believe in Superman. I can NOT believe that scriptwriters who get paid millions of dollars DON'T KNOW 2ND-GRADE SCIENCE.Oh hush, you're just ruining it for everyone by picking at the realism (or lack thereof) of it :P

Besides, who's to say that Nuclear Man didn't have some sort of protective shield that was pressurized while he was in space? :lol:Keep in mind, this is coming from a life-long Superman fan.Then again, what I am saying is coming from a guy who first saw Superman 4 on TV when he was only about 7 or 8 years old, an age where children are unconcious/ignorant about good scriptwriting and FX; all they care about is that it's a movie based on something they like, and they ARE going to like it regardless of the movie's quality.

In other words, since it's been a long time since I last saw it, I guess I'll have to watch it again to make sure I was only a kid when I saw it :D

The Bossanova
07-24-2003, 01:30 PM
do i seem to be a scary person or something?

Reznorite420
07-24-2003, 01:32 PM
No, but you do seem to be a spammer/troll at the moment...

The Bossanova
07-24-2003, 01:33 PM
i dont follow

Raven
07-24-2003, 01:33 PM
do i seem to be a scary person or something?

:roll:......never mind...........

Karpo_007
07-24-2003, 01:40 PM
There are so many bad ones... Well a movie can't get much worse from Highlander 2.

Reznorite420
07-24-2003, 01:51 PM
There are so many bad ones... Well a movie can't get much worse from Highlander 2.Forgot to include that on my list of worst movie sequels.

The Bossanova
07-24-2003, 01:57 PM
which hilander had Edge in it??

Tokka-B
07-24-2003, 02:06 PM
Worst Disney movie: I love most of the animated ones, but their live action movies are just plain pitiful...Wasn't Angels in the Outfield made by them? Gosh, that movie should lock itself in a closet and never come out.

I assume you mean movies that actually made it to the theater. Hmmm, the worst ever would have to be....one of those cheezy 70's movies...I think there was one about monkeys.

Albrecht
07-24-2003, 02:15 PM
the worst movie ever is entitled "stryker's fantisies".(more mars than she has seen herself)

Reznorite420
07-24-2003, 03:49 PM
Worst Disney movie: I love most of the animated ones, but their live action movies are just plain pitiful...Wasn't Angels in the Outfield made by them? Gosh, that movie should lock itself in a closet and never come out.Angels In The Endzone was worse.

Mars-Chan
07-24-2003, 03:55 PM
I LOVED Tall Tale!

The Stryker
07-24-2003, 04:01 PM
the worst movie ever is entitled "stryker's fantisies".(more mars than she has seen herself)Wrong!...my fantasys have Moomintroll,Mars,Friction X and Amanda....so there!


*runs*

Mars-Chan
07-24-2003, 04:11 PM
Is everyone ok with me KEBOBING him? *glances around, pulls out her sais* GOOD!!!!

The Stryker
07-24-2003, 04:15 PM
But Mars!!.....um....uh......wha.....I LOVE YOU!!!!

BAMF!*disappears*

Mars-Chan
07-24-2003, 04:17 PM
* :evilgrin: * BAMF!! *disappears*

The Bossanova
07-24-2003, 04:26 PM
alright iv been here a while but have never wanted to post a topic..this is going to soubd completely ignorant please nobody shun me for it but...how do I F**king do it?

That Matt Guy
07-24-2003, 04:37 PM
Press the button that says "New Topic", it's next to the reply button.

The Bossanova
07-24-2003, 04:39 PM
finally..thanx

Leo656
07-24-2003, 05:43 PM
I also loved Superman IV as a child, in fact it was my favorite of the series for years, but then one day I rented it when I was about 14, and as I was watching it, I suddenly realized "....oh my GOD.... this movie's AWFUL!" It started with the special effects (99% of which were just comprised of poorly overlapping footage of Superman and Nuclear Man flying over stock footage, some of which was even taken from the Supergirl movie). There were things about them that always stood out as looking poor, but at a certain age I was like "Well, WHY were they so bad?" I mean sure it had the lowest budget of all the Superman movies, but I'm sure with some effort they could have slapped something together that wasn't quite as cheap looking.

And sorry if it's "nitpicky" but if Nuclear Man had some sort of "protective aura" which stretched to cover Lacy Warfield when he flew her into space, then she still would have died when Superman rescued her, as he has no such aura. There's also a scene at the beginning of the movie where he saves a space station and rescues one of the astronauts from flying away into space. He opens the hatch to deposit the guy back into the space station, and stands there conversing happily with the astronauts. Now, 1) Superman would not be able to talk in space, and 2) the pressure escaping the station upon the door being opened would have sucked everyone out.

Again, these things just slap you in the face if you actually *watch* the movie while you watch the movie. And as a kid I was too busy running around in a Superman cape to actually watch the movie. :P

Albrecht
07-24-2003, 06:25 PM
the worst movie ever is entitled "stryker's fantisies".(more mars than she has seen herself)Wrong!...my fantasys have Moomintroll,Mars,Friction X and Amanda....so there!


*runs*


actually i was talking about volume 17265458 number 19326402

Raven
07-24-2003, 09:16 PM
But Mars!!.....um....uh......wha.....I LOVE YOU!!!!

BAMF!*disappears*

walks up to strycker

sorry I have to see i.d.
all people must show me i.d. if they wish to speek to mars

Reznorite420
07-25-2003, 03:29 AM
I also 2) the pressure escaping the station upon the door being opened would have sucked everyone out.MY turn to be nitpicky :D

As Data from ST:TNG said in the episode "The Naked Now":

"Correction...that's BLOWN out" :D

Leo656
07-25-2003, 11:30 AM
I stand corrected. Was an honest mistake... "suck" and "blow" have so much in common.... IF ya nah'mean.

Either way, that scene was asinine and killed the movie in the first five minutes.

Reznorite420
07-25-2003, 12:12 PM
Damn it, this is all making me WANT to see it again just to see how bad it was...

*runs over to Hollywood video*

No sense in buying something that you don't know how bad it is yet, right :D

BTW, "suck" and "blow" are the exact opposites of each other, HA HA HA HA HA![/cosby]

Uhhh, don't kill me?

Leo656
07-25-2003, 01:23 PM
But there's one instance where they in fact have a lot to do with each other, and I'm not saying any more out of consideration for the children.

That Matt Guy
07-25-2003, 01:25 PM
:lol: Reznorite's virgin eyes aren't ready to read anything beyond a vague hint to what you are talking about.

Leo656
07-25-2003, 01:28 PM
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaaa....

Reznorite420
07-25-2003, 02:11 PM
:lol: Reznorite's virgin eyes aren't ready to read anything beyond a vague hint to what you are talking about.Too bad my eyes aren't "virgin"...I knew completely well what he meant.

Oh yeah, and I just go past the first scene; looks to me like that was an AIRLOCK which was a separate module from the rest of the station, so maybe that's why nobody was blown/sucked out into space.

Leo656
07-25-2003, 02:32 PM
Too bad my eyes aren't "virgin"...

..........OUCH!!!! That must have HURT!!! :o

Oh yeah, and I just go past the first scene; looks to me like that was an AIRLOCK which was a separate module from the rest of the station, so maybe that's why nobody was blown/sucked out into space.

Eh, maybe. Superman still can't talk in space.

That Matt Guy
07-25-2003, 02:38 PM
Too bad my eyes aren't "virgin"...

..........OUCH!!!! That must have HURT!!! :o

Oh yeah, and I just go past the first scene; looks to me like that was an AIRLOCK which was a separate module from the rest of the station, so maybe that's why nobody was blown/sucked out into space.

Eh, maybe. Superman still can't talk in space.

:lol:

And what do you mean he can't talk in space? He's Superman he can do whatever he wants.

Leo656
07-25-2003, 02:42 PM
It's physically impossible for anyone to speak in space because of the lack of oxygen required for things like speaking and sound. Superman's powers don't bend the laws of science *quite* that far.

I actually own a book called "The Science of Superman" which explains how his powers could theoretically work if he actually, y'know, existed. it's pretty interesting stuff, albeit incredibly complicated.

That Matt Guy
07-25-2003, 02:44 PM
I thought he could do anything because he's "Super"

Leo656
07-25-2003, 02:55 PM
Not really. His powers are a result of Krypton having existed under a red dwarf sun and his Kryptonian cells more efficiently harnessing the energy from Earth's yellow sun. Basically, Kal-El's body is like a giant solar battery, absorbing the energy from the yellow sun which enhances his abilities to those "far beyond those of mortal men." His strength, invulnerability, speed and ability to fly are apparently a result of his super-dense Kryptonian phsyiology under Earth's yellow sun, his super-breath and super-senses are apparently an example of the yellow sun "enhancing" his natural senses and abilities, and his heat vision is allegedly an expulsion of excess solar energy like a waste product.

And through prolonged exposure to a red sun, he loses his powers, and it takes prolonged exposure to a yellow sun's rays to get them back again. The abscence of a yellow sun can also cause his powers to "burn out". Also, as he exerts more and more energy in a short period of time, he becomes less and less powerful (i.e., the fight with Doomsday where he died, where in the course of fighting Doomsday he exerted himself faster than his cells could process the sun's energy, leaving him weakened to the point where he was no longer "invulnerable", and he died).

Hope that clears things up a little. :)

That Matt Guy
07-25-2003, 02:56 PM
Hmm. I thought the cape made him fly.

Raven
07-25-2003, 02:57 PM
Hmm. I thought the cape made him fly.

:roll:

Leo656
07-25-2003, 03:02 PM
:lol:

How exactly he flies is a bit of a mystery. In recent years it's been explained as both a matter of density (i.e., his body density is such that he has the ability to manipulate gravity itself while under a yellow sun), but that theory makes it questionable as to how he could fly in space or anywhere outside of the reach of a yellow sun.

Earlier in the modern run of Superman (1987 or so), it was hinted that Superman's flight was actually somehow telekinetic, evidenced by the fact that while in flight, he could move or carry things without exerting himself physically (for example, while held prisoner by the Manhunters and shackled inside their ship, he managed to move the entire ship from the inside by willing himself to fly).

So yeah, his power of flight is a bit of a mystery that's never really been completely explained. But it's definitely not the cape. His mother (Martha Kent) made it for him, and she continues to do so whenever he needs a new one. What a swell lady.

That Matt Guy
07-25-2003, 03:19 PM
:lol: I could have sworn that he almost died or something and he lost his powers because he got his cape taken away from him once.

Leo656
07-25-2003, 03:25 PM
You're probably thinking of the craptacular Superman IV, where he was scratched by Nuclear Man and apparently got some type of blood poisoning (don't ask me, that's just ONE of the things in the movie that made no damn sense). In the course of the fight, he lost his cape, in a scene that was supposed to be somehow symbolic but instead just ended up looking cheesy.

Anyway yeah him losing his cape had nothing to do with him almost dying, it was Nuclear Man's "Lee Press-On Nails of Doom". He loses his cape all the time in the comic books. His body is surrounded by a thin special protective aura which is what makes him invulnerable to harm. His cape extends outside that aura, thus it gets ripped/torn/burned and otherwise damaged quite routinely.

Reznorite420
07-25-2003, 03:38 PM
Oh, for crying out loud, it's just a movie! :roll:

Leo656
07-25-2003, 08:45 PM
:lol: This from the dude who feels the need to correct anyone who gets a TMNT cartoon quote wrong by even one word. "Hello, pot? This is the kettle... I just called to say you're black." :D

Oh, yeah, I just remembered that "Kids" was really sucktacular.

Reznorite420
07-25-2003, 09:25 PM
:lol: This from the dude who feels the need to correct anyone who gets a TMNT cartoon quote wrong by even one word.Quotes are one thing...realism is something different. NYAH! :P

Leo656
07-25-2003, 10:01 PM
The most important thing is that you did NOT disagree that "Kids" was suck-travagant.

cqb101
07-26-2003, 08:29 AM
Rollerball was the worst movie ever.

Leo656
07-26-2003, 12:08 PM
But... but Paul Heyman and Shane McMahon were in it! :lol:

cqb101
07-26-2003, 12:11 PM
But... but Paul Heyman and Shane McMahon were in it! :lol:

Who?

Leo656
07-26-2003, 12:14 PM
LoL Paul Heyman used to be the owner of ECW and he was an announcer for the WWF when Rollerball was coming out. Shane McMahon is the son of Vince McMahon (owner of the WWF/WWE) and the head of their New Media department. I mentioned them as a joke b/c when Rollerball was coming out the WWF played commercials for it CONSTANTLY, hyping it to the moon because Heyman and Shane were in it.

cqb101
07-26-2003, 12:18 PM
LoL Paul Heyman used to be the owner of ECW and he was an announcer for the WWF when Rollerball was coming out. Shane McMahon is the son of Vince McMahon (owner of the WWF/WWE) and the head of their New Media department. I mentioned them as a joke b/c when Rollerball was coming out the WWF played commercials for it CONSTANTLY, hyping it to the moon because Heyman and Shane were in it.

Oh, ok. Who did they play in it?

Leo656
07-26-2003, 12:21 PM
Probably very small parts. I'v only seen the commercials, but from what I saw Paul looks pretty much like he does in real life... he's the really loud, obnoxious announcer-type guy wearing a baseball cap. And I think I saw clips of Shane getting out of a limo or something. I don't really wanna see the movie to find out for certain. :lol:

cqb101
07-26-2003, 12:25 PM
Probably very small parts. I'v only seen the commercials, but from what I saw Paul looks pretty much like he does in real life... he's the really loud, obnoxious announcer-type guy wearing a baseball cap. And I think I saw clips of Shane getting out of a limo or something. I don't really wanna see the movie to find out for certain. :lol:

lol. I can't remember. I only saw the movie once and that was when it first came out in theatres. That was long ago.

Reznorite420
07-26-2003, 03:20 PM
The most important thing is that you did NOT disagree that "Kids" was suck-travagant.Whatever the hell you're talking about...

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 05:28 AM
The most important thing is that you did NOT disagree that "Kids" was suck-travagant.Whatever the hell you're talking about...

Hmm Rez might be too young to remember that movie.

Leo656
07-27-2003, 05:30 AM
I wish I was too young to remember that movie.

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 05:32 AM
...We can always pretend :D

Leo656
07-27-2003, 05:52 AM
All it was was a bunch of 13 year old little wannabe thugs walking around smoking weed and f*cking. Gimme fifty bucks and a camera and I'll make the exact same movie, with the added bonus that I'd stuff one of the kids in one'a those "clothes for the poor" bins they have at gas stations.

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 05:54 AM
All it was was a bunch of 13 year old little wannabe thugs walking around smoking weed and f*cking. Gimme fifty bucks and a camera and I'll make the exact same movie, with the added bonus that I'd stuff one of the kids in one'a those "clothes for the poor" bins they have at gas stations.

Tell me about it, I saw it for Free on Television and I still demanded my money back.

Leo656
07-27-2003, 05:57 AM
Those kids were posers bro. You an' me could school them kids. Little 13 year old kids actin' all hard. Pfft. I bet not one of them could clear a single bong, despite all their bluster.

Public Service Announcement: Drugs are bad, m'kay?

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 05:59 AM
You know the only good thing about it was, that chick from Josie and the pussycats was in it.. the one that played Val.

Hell yeah Leo, those kids wouldn't know what they were getting themselves in to.. they couldnt even handle their liquor

Leo656
07-27-2003, 06:07 AM
Or their AIDS, if that one kid who kept f*cking everyone was any indication :lol:

That Matt Guy
07-27-2003, 06:09 AM
So you can handle you're AIDS?

Leo656
07-27-2003, 06:10 AM
No, I've never had any AIDS of my own. Plenty of people offer to lend me their AIDS but I politely refuse.

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 06:17 AM
As would I. If someone Offered me their AIDS, I'd have to decline as well.
From what I hear, people don't like to take their AIDS back once they loan it to you.

Leo656
07-27-2003, 06:27 AM
Nah, they'd rather spread it around.

Which, I guess, makes AIDS the ultimate "gift that keeps on giving", doesn't it?








........... dear God, I'm going to Hell for that.

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 06:43 AM
*nods*

Indeed you are, indeed you are...

Reznorite420
07-27-2003, 10:26 AM
Hmm Rez might be too young to remember that movie.It's not that I'm too young, it's just that I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT PERIOD.

AOL-er mode off :dead:

Ryan
07-27-2003, 10:32 AM
I must be weird cuz I liked Lion King II. But then again I'm just a Lion King mark so that could explain it.

Worst Disney movie? I'unno, I haven't seen anywhere near enough to be able to judge that.

Worst movie I've seen is probably a toss-up between "Santa With Muscles" and "Three Ninjas: High Noon at Mega Mountain", both Hulk Hogan movies. I'll give 3 Ninjas the nod, though, because Hulk Hogan gets beaten up by Loni Anderson. Repeatedly.


Yeah, that was a pretty bad movie...Will I get it on DVD to complete my 3 Ninjas collection? Yes. Ring is a bad movie, but fear DOT com is even worse. I think Chicago is also a bad flick, incredibly overrated. Showgirls...egats.

Ryan

GK Punk
07-27-2003, 10:18 PM
Hmm Rez might be too young to remember that movie.It's not that I'm too young, it's just that I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT PERIOD.

AOL-er mode off :dead:

Well, maybe you HAVE heard of it, but are just blocking the damn thing from your memory. It was pretty bad...

Reznorite420
07-28-2003, 12:57 AM
Seriously, I've never heard of it...am I lucky because of that?

GK Punk
07-28-2003, 01:00 AM
Yeah it was awful.

It was about a bunch of 13-15 year olds having sex, doing drugs and raping eachother. It was awful -_-;;

It came out in (I think) 1994 or so, and made national headlines for the way it potrayed "Children".

I cannot even begin to tell you how bad the movie REALLY is.

Reznorite420
07-28-2003, 01:04 AM
Ah, no wonder I hadn't heard of it; back in '94 I was too busy throwing chairs at my teacher and spending more time in the princiapal's office than at home, not to mention the hospital time I spent...and it had NOTHING to with that movie in terms of influence! :lol: :lol: :lol:

GK Punk
07-28-2003, 01:14 AM
Ah, no wonder I hadn't heard of it; back in '94 I was too busy throwing chairs at my teacher and spending more time in the princiapal's office than at home, not to mention the hospital time I spent...and it had NOTHING to with that movie in terms of influence! :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol:

That's funny, because in 94 I got Suspended for throwing a paper clip "at" a teacher. (I threw it on the ground and it bounced at her) And when I came back, people were asking me why I hit her with a chair :lol:

Reznorite420
07-28-2003, 01:19 AM
Had it not been for what happened because of that manic-depression I was in during that year, my life would be WAYYYYYYYYY different now, all because of a certain game on my psycholgist's computer:

http://www.gamespy.com/legacy/halloffame/hof-doom/titlepic.jpg

You'd have to have an understanding of quantum theory to know what I mean :D

Amanda
08-03-2003, 11:23 PM
Wrong!...my fantasys have Moomintroll,Mars,Friction X and Amanda....so there!

*runs*

*quirks eyebrow* Erm...

Amanda

Leo656
08-03-2003, 11:45 PM
Dude Amanda isn't even here enough to have fanboys... yeeeeesh......

Amanda
08-03-2003, 11:50 PM
Dude Amanda isn't even here enough to have fanboys... yeeeeesh......

Although it's a nice to feel special once in a while, lol!

Amanda (Who thought he was just joking anyway...)

Fugitoid Jones
08-05-2003, 11:37 PM
I know it's a little late in the thread to make this remark, but it pisses me off when people say that movies like Unbreakable or the Scorpion King are the worst movies ever made. In all the 100 years of film making, and the thousands, if not millions of films made during those 100 years, you people actually believe that those movies are the worst ever? Please, go watch some movies that haven't come out in the past 5 years.

Dr. Doom
08-06-2003, 01:15 AM
AI sucked. That and anything with Kevin Costner, save Dances With Wolves.

Leo656
08-06-2003, 01:20 AM
Hey, let's be fair... "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" was kickass.

Dr. Doom
08-06-2003, 01:22 AM
Let's get one thing clear: No, it wasn't. Kevin Costner can't act his way out of a gas chamber. And fortunately, cause he deserves to die before he makes another stinker. Cary Elwes played Robin a million times better than that hack.

Leo656
08-06-2003, 01:25 AM
I disagree. I'm not much of a Costner fan, but I loved "Prince of Thieves". Though "Men in Tights" was certainly hysterical and nobody in their right mind could deny that. :lol:

Fugitoid Jones
08-06-2003, 09:30 AM
As far as Kevin Costner goes, I thaught Dances With Wolves, Robin Hood, and Field of Dreams were good.

That Matt Guy
08-06-2003, 09:32 AM
His new movie "Open Range" looks like it might be good. Hollywood doesn't make enough westerns anymore.

Leo656
08-06-2003, 02:14 PM
Yeah that's true, after Young Guns and Tombstone they didn't really make too many normal Westerns anymore.