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Papenbrook
03-27-2014, 10:44 AM
I want you to name one of the worst moments within the series based on your own opinion. You must have an explanation that relates to why you chose that moment as the worst moment.

Good luck!

TurtleTitan97
03-27-2014, 10:49 AM
Don't we already have enough of this negative threads concerning this show?

Kanon
03-27-2014, 10:50 AM
My no. 1 worst moment is in season 2 episode 9,
when this "April-Clone"-Monster liked mikey.

Soooooo gross! :x

CowabungaMikey
03-27-2014, 11:07 AM
Worst moment? The episode "The Kraang Conspiracy".

BabyTurtles
03-27-2014, 11:09 AM
Worst moment? The episode "The Kraang Conspiracy".

me too.....

but specifically when they said April was half mutant.

......(and when she gained psychic powers)

Shark_Blade
03-27-2014, 12:18 PM
Mikey in Mutation Situation.

Just overall dumb to the lowest degree.

ObiWanFan4life
03-27-2014, 01:40 PM
The Pulverizer's first appearance, that episode and the eponymous character piss me off. And I'm still not over the moment from the season 1 finale where Leo comes out of the water completely unharmed.

snake
03-27-2014, 02:30 PM
Mikey in Mutation Situation.

Just overall dumb to the lowest degree.

This.

And Aprils "secret"

Candy Kappa
03-27-2014, 03:36 PM
Karai revealed to be Miwa, lost potential of having on more female character.

Warhorse
03-27-2014, 04:20 PM
That the Turtles don't know what pizza is or how to pronounce it (or that they lived on algae and worms for 15 years) But yet, they manage to have a TV, and Donnie has a lab, and Mikey, Raph and Leo have comic book collections, and they got video game arcades, and they even have a freaking tree growing in Splinter's room. Yeah, truly the most stupidest thing I have seen in this show.

BubblyShell22
03-27-2014, 04:33 PM
^ This for me, too. Just makes no sense why they wouldn't know about pizza or live on other food either. But that's the only negative I really can think of.

Powder
03-27-2014, 04:41 PM
truly the most stupidest

Oh the irony. :tlol:

kolaida
03-27-2014, 04:54 PM
That the Turtles don't know what pizza is or how to pronounce it (or that they lived on algae and worms for 15 years) But yet, they manage to have a TV, and Donnie has a lab, and Mikey, Raph and Leo have comic book collections, and they got video game arcades, and they even have a freaking tree growing in Splinter's room. Yeah, truly the most stupidest thing I have seen in this show.

^Yeah, agreed. It would have been nicer if they didn't have ANYTHING or it they at least knew how to PRONOUNCE it. Then they could have been like, "hey, that stuff we've been wanting to try out!" I always thought that part was a little weird and out of place. Fun, but definitely didn't flow well.

Metalwolf
03-27-2014, 04:59 PM
I'd say 'Kraang Conspiracy.' I don't care for April being part Kraang. :ohwell:

Shark_Blade
03-27-2014, 07:04 PM
The Pulverizer's first appearance, that episode and the eponymous character piss me off. And I'm still not over the moment from the season 1 finale where Leo comes out of the water completely unharmed.
Anything with the Pulverizer is worst imo but I guess I removed him from my memory so much that I had completely forgotten about him. :P

BabyTurtles
03-27-2014, 07:27 PM
Mikey in Mutation Situation.

Just overall dumb to the lowest degree.

yea this XD Can I have more than 1 worst moment?

shuriken
03-27-2014, 08:05 PM
Butt Cannons

Technogeek29
03-27-2014, 11:36 PM
Mutation situation still don't like that episode. Worst one in my opnion for several reasons.

Aaronardo
03-28-2014, 04:21 PM
Really, Kraang Conspiracy? That was an awesome episode... :-?

Anyway, what I consider the worst moment would probably be all of Invasion of the Squirrelenoids. Yes, Mutation Situation was pretty bad, but Squirrelenoids was by far the worst thing to come out of the show. If they're handled later in the show, they better be handled much better.

Metalwolf
03-28-2014, 09:23 PM
Really, Kraang Conspiracy? That was an awesome episode... :-?

I think it's because a lot of people didn't like the idea of April being not totally human, as it removes the 'everyperson' aspect of her and makes her come off as more Sueish. She was more fun when she was just a normal girl caught up in interesting circumstances, rather then a human/alien hybrid that has all of these hidden powers.

kolaida
03-28-2014, 09:29 PM
I'm just curious why Mutation Situation is mentioned so much. I mean, I get there are things in there that people don't like and it's not my favorite episode but I wouldn't label the entire episode as worst moment. I actually just rewatched it again since it was mentioned so much.

Jeff
03-28-2014, 10:16 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/991a2ce43eb2cacb0729f4b97be016a8/tumblr_n1q4tddgmx1r2nvplo1_500.gif

Powder
03-28-2014, 11:01 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/991a2ce43eb2cacb0729f4b97be016a8/tumblr_n1q4tddgmx1r2nvplo1_500.gif

How come? It's a pretty silly & innocent thing, no?

CyberCubed
03-28-2014, 11:06 PM
Didn't like that one scene where Mikey's teeth fell out in classic Looney Tunes or Tom and Jerry style when they were in the Asian restaurant.

As said, that was way too cartoony for me.

MCLeo28
03-29-2014, 01:47 AM
I'm just curious why Mutation Situation is mentioned so much. I mean, I get there are things in there that people don't like and it's not my favorite episode but I wouldn't label the entire episode as worst moment. I actually just rewatched it again since it was mentioned so much.

Yeah, I personally liked it and was anxious to see the new mutants coming out in Season 2 resulting from the mutagen, but hey, haters gonna hate.

Sighphi
03-29-2014, 03:15 AM
How come? It's a pretty silly & innocent thing, no?

Mike starting eating it.... that was extremely weird.
Like...kill it before you eat it, man. You have some higher brain function.
I think Mike has some serious mental problem, i dont think he is just some fun loving dude.

Aaronardo
03-29-2014, 09:17 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/991a2ce43eb2cacb0729f4b97be016a8/tumblr_n1q4tddgmx1r2nvplo1_500.gif

Don't act like that wasn't one of the best moments in the show :P

snake
03-29-2014, 10:17 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/991a2ce43eb2cacb0729f4b97be016a8/tumblr_n1q4tddgmx1r2nvplo1_500.gif

C'mon, she was awesome!

kelligrafie
03-29-2014, 10:48 AM
I think it's because a lot of people didn't like the idea of April being not totally human, as it removes the 'everyperson' aspect of her and makes her come off as more Sueish. She was more fun when she was just a normal girl caught up in interesting circumstances, rather then a human/alien hybrid that has all of these hidden powers.

I don't think it's just her gifting in general.

It's the speed at which they've handled it more than anything. It was thrown at us all of a sudden. She was quite normal for a long time, her 'heritage' hinted at, but never properly addressed, then three or four episodes in a row she's suddenly got these psychic powers where she can detect eavesdroppers and enemy spies and whatnot. It seemed very clumsy to me.

drgon78
03-29-2014, 11:20 AM
They have been giving hints of April's psychic abilities and other non-human traits since season one.

I am not sure were to begin about the worst moments of the show though most of them have involved Mikey(Shell Acne, Ice Cream Kitty, naming every mutant, etc.).

Karai Samurai
03-30-2014, 07:46 PM
Cockroach Terminator. Super gross and the episode was just filler.
This season, though, worst moment was the introduction of April Derp in Kraang Conspiracy. WHY?

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 08:48 PM
Cockroach Terminator. Super gross and the episode was just filler.
This season, though, worst moment was the introduction of April Derp in Kraang Conspiracy. WHY?

Eh, I thought Cockroach Terminator was hilarious, and so on point. The tough guy having a ridiculous phobia on something so small.

kolaida
03-30-2014, 09:01 PM
I could relate a little too well to The Cockroach Terminator and had trouble watching it but I did think it was funny. One of the many reasons, I loved Humungous Fungus so much, I was actually busting up laughing at something I usually cringe at and have panic attacks over. I really do not like cockroaches, lol!

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 10:57 PM
I could relate a little too well to The Cockroach Terminator and had trouble watching it but I did think it was funny. One of the many reasons, I loved Humungous Fungus so much, I was actually busting up laughing at something I usually cringe at and have panic attacks over. I really do not like cockroaches, lol!

I have a fear of Palmetto bugs, they are the worse, because they will crawl up a wall, then dive bomb your ass. No joke. I know they can't hurt you, I just don't like this giant flying cockroach coming after me. The way Raph acts with the little roaches is exactly how I act, it's probably why the episode was hilarious for me, it came close to home.

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And this is typical of most Floridians. We want to kill the suckers, but we're too afraid to get near it!

-G272zni4oM



Now, the Humungous Fungus episode, it is funny, especially when Leo is seeing the fantasia part. If someone don't laugh at that, then I don't know what to say. You got no sense of humor. But, it did it's job as a good one shot episode, and I don't feel they need to make another one.

shuriken
03-31-2014, 01:13 AM
^^ Palmetto bugs are the worst:o

April Derp was hilarious. But I think April's super powers are whack and so was Shellacne. Turtle Temper was ok IMO.

electric_sheep
03-31-2014, 03:35 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/991a2ce43eb2cacb0729f4b97be016a8/tumblr_n1q4tddgmx1r2nvplo1_500.gif

What the **** is that thing?

Karai Samurai
03-31-2014, 09:25 AM
I CANT EVEN right now. This is why I can't live in Florida.

Back on topic, though. I'm kind of shocked you guys found Cockroach Terminator funny. I haven't watched it in a while, but it seemed weirdly paced and unnecessary. Great storytelling is in its subtleties. There's was no need to build a plot and bring in a mutant for Raph's little fear. If that was the case, we would have filler episodes about how spazzy Donnie is or how Irma doesn't like gluten. Maybe the mutant for Irma's episode would be a piece of gluten bread that infects gluten-free products. And then maybe she can meet the turtles while being saved from the acne and stomach pains she gets from eating those evil products...

Shark_Blade
03-31-2014, 10:19 AM
-G272zni4oM
:lol:

http://i.imgur.com/qQeWeJI.gif

TurFlytle
03-31-2014, 10:25 AM
What the **** is that thing?

You obviously missed the episode "Of Rats and Men"

Sewer Sirens Podcast
04-03-2014, 12:33 PM
That the Turtles don't know what pizza is or how to pronounce it (or that they lived on algae and worms for 15 years) But yet, they manage to have a TV, and Donnie has a lab, and Mikey, Raph and Leo have comic book collections, and they got video game arcades, and they even have a freaking tree growing in Splinter's room. Yeah, truly the most stupidest thing I have seen in this show.
Agreed. And then when Donny says "That's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen."
"Isn't that the only girl you've ever seen?"
Except they have a TV down in their lair.

BabyTurtles
04-03-2014, 01:21 PM
Agreed. And then when Donny says "That's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen."
"Isn't that the only girl you've ever seen?"
Except they have a TV down in their lair.

I'm pretty sure they meant in-person...XD

Gabriel GP
04-03-2014, 01:48 PM
The moment when Karai is revealed as Miwa.

electric_sheep
04-03-2014, 03:02 PM
Mikey licking April's ice cream pussy, that was disgusting...
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140226035238/tmnt2012series/images/2/24/TMNT_2012_Ice_Cream_Kitty-1-.jpg

snake
04-03-2014, 03:10 PM
Agreed. And then when Donny says "That's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen."
"Isn't that the only girl you've ever seen?"
Except they have a TV down in their lair.

The only girl he's ever seen in PERSON.

MsMarvelDuckie
04-03-2014, 05:17 PM
Mikey licking April's ice cream pussy, that was disgusting...
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140226035238/tmnt2012series/images/2/24/TMNT_2012_Ice_Cream_Kitty-1-.jpg

Holy crap, how'd you get away with that one?! It's KITTY, dude. The other word is just not for a kid-friendly forum.... :teek: :tconfuse: :toops:

Then again, that scene DID have some rather adult undertones. How they got that under the radar is beyond me. :twink::trazz:


My worst moment is any time Mikey acts like a complete idiot- which is often. :tmad::tgrumble:

Shark_Blade
04-03-2014, 06:47 PM
The moment when Karai is revealed as Miwa.

How is that even a worst moment? :roll:

fridaynightdestination
04-03-2014, 07:34 PM
Every second of Mikey's Got Shellacne

snake
04-03-2014, 09:06 PM
Every second of Mikey's Got Shellacne

Even the Rahzar parts?

Metalwolf
04-03-2014, 09:20 PM
Even the Rahzar parts?Maybe he liked Chris as Dogpound instead :???:

Warhorse
04-04-2014, 12:32 AM
Every second of Mikey's Got Shellacne

Well, I did like two parts, one where Leo was showing his vanity, and when Donnie was teasing the crap out of Mikey.

Shark_Blade
04-04-2014, 10:17 AM
Well, I did like two parts, one where Leo was showing his vanity, and when Donnie was teasing the crap out of Mikey.

I read that as Leo showing his virginity..

Warhorse
04-04-2014, 11:21 AM
I read that as Leo showing his virginity..

:lol: well unless u know something that the rest of us do not i assume he's still that. And a bit vain.

plastroncafe
04-04-2014, 11:23 AM
Mostly it's just Creeper Donnie.

blindturtle02
04-04-2014, 12:51 PM
Mine would have to be the nerfing of Rahzar in Manhattan Project. here they introduced this bada$$ secondary mutation for Bradford in Shellacne only to be bested in no time when we see him again. I'm hoping he's wanting everyone to underestimate him as part of some scheme, but I suppose I'll just have to wait and see. The nerf wasn't unbearable, but I was expecting more from this guy during his second appearance. That's honestly the only negative thing I can think of. It isn't even all that big of a deal to me because I trust that the writers know what they're doing.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt
04-04-2014, 01:16 PM
When Raph has an alien inside of him, and Mikey scares him by thinking he Has A Chainsaw and Is Going to Cut Raph's Stomach/Plastron Open? And everyone (Mikey, Leo, Donnie) laughs about that?? WTF?

That's WAY too much and pretty damn sh*tty of them to do.

That and Raphael being so scared of the Bug creature (forgot the episode) that he Abandons His Family and leaves them behind! In my opinion, Raph would never leave his family behind in a fight. No Matter What.

Colonel Schrader
04-04-2014, 02:08 PM
slash beating up the Bro's.. esp Mikey.. that $h1t was 2 hard to watch for me. :tcry:

also any scene with Kirby Bat in it. lol

Konchadunga
04-04-2014, 03:06 PM
Turtle Temper, easily. Beyond that I disagree with the lesson being taught, and believe that society as a whole should stop teaching it, Splinter was just being downright moronic in risking revealing themselves in order to teach it.

Bossa Nova
04-04-2014, 06:52 PM
That and Raphael being so scared of the Bug creature (forgot the episode) that he Abandons His Family and leaves them behind! In my opinion, Raph would never leave his family behind in a fight. No Matter What.

Agreed. Though all the turtles (especially Don), seem to have no problem leaving their bros when they could be in very real danger. So much for brotherhood and all that :ohwell:

Ramboraph4life aka Matt
04-04-2014, 06:53 PM
Agreed. Though all the turtles (especially Don), seem to have no problem leaving their bros when they could be in very real danger. So much for brotherhood and all that :ohwell:

That's true. I don't get that. Even for a cartoon.

Warhorse
04-04-2014, 11:55 PM
When Raph has an alien inside of him, and Mikey scares him by thinking he Has A Chainsaw and Is Going to Cut Raph's Stomach/Plastron Open? And everyone (Mikey, Leo, Donnie) laughs about that?? WTF?

That's WAY too much and pretty damn sh*tty of them to do.

That and Raphael being so scared of the Bug creature (forgot the episode) that he Abandons His Family and leaves them behind! In my opinion, Raph would never leave his family behind in a fight. No Matter What.

Raph and Mikey have been the butt of jokes in this show lately, and I really hope the writers start to get away from that, asap.

Zog the Equalizer
04-07-2014, 02:37 AM
I'd have to say Donnie's "biggest fear" in Fungus Humongous being April not liking him. I tolerate the whole crush thing, but having that be what he fears most really seams to cheapen the character for me. In fact the only ones who seemed to have deep, well-developed fears were Leo and April.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt
04-07-2014, 02:52 AM
I'd have to say Donnie's "biggest fear" in Fungus Humongous being April not liking him. I tolerate the whole crush thing, but having that be what he fears most really seams to cheapen the character for me. In fact the only ones who seemed to have deep, well-developed fears were Leo and April.

Why not, for Raph, make it the fear that he'll lose control and hurt his family or just the fact that he might do something that will get his family hurt (even the moment where he was 'leader' and Mikey got hurt)? Or that he'll be like Slash? Or even the fear be that Slash would hurt his family (and Slash saying 'it's your fault')?

Warhorse
04-07-2014, 04:42 AM
Why not, for Raph, make it the fear that he'll lose control and hurt his family or just the fact that he might do something that will get his family hurt (even the moment where he was 'leader' and Mikey got hurt)? Or that he'll be like Slash? Or even the fear be that Slash would hurt his family (and Slash saying 'it's your fault')?

Well, maybe I'm looking too much into these things, but perhaps Raph, Donnie and Mikey are better at suppressing their truly deepest fears a lot better than Leo or April.

But then again, this episode could have been just an episode to have Leo save the day, again. It's kind of strange, because I thought Raphael got through his phobia in CockRoach Terminator. And why would Mikey be afraid of the squirrelnoids? Eh, now I'm starting to see why I really didn't care for that episode.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt
04-07-2014, 04:48 AM
Well, maybe I'm looking too much into these things, but perhaps Raph, Donnie and Mikey are better at suppressing their truly deepest fears a lot better than Leo or April.

So wouldn't that make Leo weaker than the other three, even though he's the leader? Because wouldn't 'suppressing your fear' be a great attribute?

Whatswiththeheadbands?
04-07-2014, 08:14 AM
The episode 'Mikey gets Shellacne'

With the exception of Rahzar.

Warhorse
04-07-2014, 09:45 PM
So wouldn't that make Leo weaker than the other three, even though he's the leader? Because wouldn't 'suppressing your fear' be a great attribute?

I don't know, because we hear it all of the time, the ones that do suppress their fears are doing it because they don't want to face them, and the day they have to, it will hit them like a freight train. Leo is already come pass that hurdle because he's already acknowledged it and faced it head on, but it's also something he will face for the rest of his life.

Granted, Raph's ultimate fear I would think would be, if he was never strong enough to protect his brothers, that was something they dealt with in the episode where he was testing Leo's leading abilities, but for some reason this episode decided to fall back on comedy fair, which is OK, it is a kid's show, can't have it too heavy.

TheBlueTurtle1
04-08-2014, 06:11 AM
The episode 'Mikey gets Shellacne'

With the exception of Rahzar.

I sorta agree, that ep was a little on the gross side, and I really am not digging Dogpounds mutation in to Rahzar.:x

Whatswiththeheadbands?
04-08-2014, 07:19 AM
I sorta agree, that ep was a little on the gross side, and I really am not digging Dogpounds mutation in to Rahzar.:x

I think so far 'Mikey gets Shellacne' is my least favorite episode of the entire series.

MiBs
04-08-2014, 10:50 AM
Why not, for Raph, make it the fear that he'll lose control and hurt his family or just the fact that he might do something that will get his family hurt (even the moment where he was 'leader' and Mikey got hurt)? Or that he'll be like Slash? Or even the fear be that Slash would hurt his family (and Slash saying 'it's your fault')?

I would've loved to see something like that. But I guess it essentially was a Leo-centric episode. I had a feeling that would be the case from reading the ep description, but I still was a little disappointed

tylerdavies
04-09-2014, 07:45 AM
worst moment?

the hiatuses of course lol

Papenbrook
10-10-2017, 11:37 PM
I want you to name one of the worst moments within the series based on your own opinion. You must have an explanation that relates to why you chose that moment as the worst moment.

Good luck!

Now that TMNT 2k12 is over, I would like to list some of the worst moments within the show.

- Casey Jones's line near the end of "Annihilation: Earth!" ("This is awesome!")

- Michelangelo's entire behavior throughout the season three episode, "The Croaking".

- Splinter's "cheese phone" moment in "The Manhattan Project: Part One".

_ April O'Neil's "You're my mutant" moment in "A Foot Too Big".

- Casey's skull bomb in "Raphael: Mutant Apocalypse" ("Carmegeddon!").

These moments are among some of the worst scenes in the 2k12 series.

Powder
10-10-2017, 11:48 PM
All the Raph/Mona bits. Eugh.

DestronMirage22
10-11-2017, 12:42 AM
- Casey Jones's line near the end of "Annihilation: Earth!" ("This is awesome!")

This one’s my pick too.
The entire freaking planet got destroyed. Millions of people just died. His friend’s father (Splinter) was just slain in front of them. His family died too.
No normal person would ever yell that out after all that stuff happened, no matter what it is they’re reacting to.
With the way they handled that scene, Nick Casey comes off a complete and utter idiot.

Ninjinister
10-11-2017, 03:31 AM
This one’s my pick too.
The entire freaking planet got destroyed. Millions of people just died. His friend’s father (Splinter) was just slain in front of them. His family died too.
No normal person would ever yell that out after all that stuff happened, no matter what it is they’re reacting to.
With the way they handled that scene, Nick Casey comes off a complete and utter idiot.

Same here.

Utrommaniac
10-11-2017, 03:37 AM
I personally think the cheese phone was cute :P

But basically for me, it was anything to do with Donatello pining after April...or Casey doing just about anything ever. There's a lot around him that rubs the wrong way...which all culminates into the "This is awesome" bit.


The time travel logic is downright awful.

CyberCubed
10-11-2017, 03:48 AM
Yeah, I wish Casey wasn't dumbed down as the show progressed.

I just finished watching Season 2 and forgot how much I initially liked Nick's Casey. He was intelligent in Season 2 and had good dialogue and interactions, but somewhere from Season 3 onward he was completely flanderized.

TMNTmousers
10-11-2017, 11:09 AM
Pretty much all Casey said was 'Another mutant', 'This is so metal'

newfan
10-11-2017, 11:14 AM
When they cancelled it! :lol:

There were things I didn't like but not many things.

Wretched Reptile
10-11-2017, 11:40 AM
I'm sure I'm forgetting some things and may think of more little stuff later (I also haven't watched the last 3 arcs yet (Monsters, Wanted and Apocalypse) so I may have more to add), but the ones that immediately come to mind:

Irma being a Kraang. Still hate it. Loved this version of Irma and was very disappointed she wasn't somehow still around after that reveal, having just been "replaced" by a Kraang imposter for that twist. Big time fail IMO and one less female character on the show after that.

Casey becoming gradually more idiotic, as others have stated. Not much to add there.

Karai being mutated, then just undoing it so suddenly and 'matter of fact' after all the drama and build up to her mind being lost and her potentially staying stuck in snake form. Still a head-scratcher. I think it boils down to knowing they had backed themselves into a corner and just shrugging it off because why not.

The repeated fake-outs involving and subsequently legit murdering of Splinter. Still probably my biggest irk with this series. It just wasn't necessary IMO. I get the whole "fate is fate, no matter what you try to change or intervene with" perspective they were going for, but I really didn't need to see Splinter impaled and thrown off a rooftop like a sack of trash. It stung more than anything I've ever seen in the entirety of the franchise to date. I'm sure that was entirely the point too, but whatever - I'll always hate it.

The general overuse and overblown threat of the Kraang in general. Seriously, this OMG GUYS INVASION arc seemed to repeat itself way too often in hindsight. By the time we got the supposed "send-off" for that angle in When Worlds Collide, it was beyond played out. I was so uninvested in that story. I really wish we'd been given something else to potentially enjoy instead in that slot during the final Tales season.

Which leads me to another complaint associated with Tales - I'd rather the Usagi arc been increased to 4 or 5 episodes. I think it would've been a better use of the season, and would've made the goofy Yokai episode more tolerable with more time to develop Usagi and the Turtles working together beforehand and Pugtaro's rise to power at the end feeling a little less rushed.

CyberCubed
10-11-2017, 12:44 PM
The repeated fake-outs involving and subsequently legit murdering of Splinter. Still probably my biggest irk with this series. It just wasn't necessary IMO. I get the whole "fate is fate, no matter what you try to change or intervene with" perspective they were going for, but I really didn't need to see Splinter impaled and thrown off a rooftop like a sack of trash. It stung more than anything I've ever seen in the entirety of the franchise to date. I'm sure that was entirely the point too, but whatever - I'll always hate it.

Splinter really only died once in the Season 3 finale before he died for good in Season 4, and as we know in Season 3 they went back in time. In the Season 2 finale Shredder badly beats Splinter but nobody ever thought he died. Even after he's thrown in the sewer currents the Turtles reassure each other that Splinter's still alive, and then at the very end of the episode we see Karai rescue him. They never tried to fake out Splinter's death that season, instead it was Shredder getting his revenge on him for beating him in the Season 1 finale.

Wretched Reptile
10-11-2017, 02:59 PM
Yes, I know that man lol. I never tried to suggest he actually died more than he did, but the fake-out description does apply to an extent by trying to suggest he could've been killed or what have you before he truly DID die. It works in narrative terms as a possible death because until they find him stark-raving mad and alive, the Turtles have no proof he didn't die in the S2 finale. Yes, they reassure each other, yes Karai saved him, but only WE as the audience know he's actually alive until they find him - they still aren't certain until that point. So yes, it was already playing off those emotions and using that possibility as a plot device. So I argue that it applies as something of a fake-out, as have others - even if it only applies to the internal narrative POV of the characters themselves.

Same thing applies with him plummeting off the rocks in the underground chasm -
definitely yet another applicable example of them suggesting his death to the other characters even before they fully and finally committed to it.

So, in essence, two arguable fake-outs, two actual deaths, with the second of those being permanent. It's like the showrunners secretly hated Splinter lol. Maybe not (and I doubt it lol), but man was he ever a constant target in this series.

It bothers me most I guess because I think 2012 Splinter will forever be my favorite incarnation from now on. I loved Hoon Lee's performance. I can't see a better Splinter ever coming after his in my lifetime. Which makes how he got batted around like a whipping boy and murdered repeatedly all the more irritating in hindsight. But hey, it's my opinion. I'm entitled to it.

drag0nfeathers
10-11-2017, 03:21 PM
When they cancelled it! :lol:

Can't argue with this one

CyberCubed
10-11-2017, 03:44 PM
It bothers me most I guess because I think 2012 Splinter will forever be my favorite incarnation from now on. I loved Hoon Lee's performance. I can't see a better Splinter ever coming after his in my lifetime. Which makes how he got batted around like a whipping boy and murdered repeatedly all the more irritating in hindsight. But hey, it's my opinion. I'm entitled to it.

I agree Nick's Splinter is my favorite incarnation of the character to date. I absolutely loved how he was a more capable fighter rather than being the aging rat or "Yoda" type character he's portrayed as in other series. I also love how he fought as a rat in this show, where he ran on all fours and bit with his mouth and used his tail...this is something most other series never did.

Although I have to say, I do like that Splinter died for real. I have to hand it to the Nick writers, they're the first cartoon that had the guts to kill off Splinter...in a kids show no less. It's quite shocking as much as I liked the character.

kelligrafie
10-14-2017, 09:48 AM
Worst moment I think was all the immature hateful comments that Dominic Catrambone got for being the in-between for Jason Biggs and Seth Green. Completely unnecessary.

We get it, you miss Jason Biggs, move on. He did.

newfan
10-14-2017, 10:54 AM
Worst moment I think was all the immature hateful comments that Dominic Catrambone got for being the in-between for Jason Biggs and Seth Green. Completely unnecessary.

We get it, you miss Jason Biggs, move on. He did.

I didn't watch the show from that start so missed that, I read Biggs left to do other things but I'm wondering if that's not the case with a post that I've seen on here. Whatever happened with that I imagine wouldn't be the fault of the cover or replacement VA's though.

kelligrafie
10-14-2017, 02:47 PM
I didn't watch the show from that start so missed that, I read Biggs left to do other things but I'm wondering if that's not the case with a post that I've seen on here. Whatever happened with that I imagine wouldn't be the fault of the cover or replacement VA's though.

Well we don't really know because neither Biggs or Nickelodeon officially addressed it.

But we think it's to do with the fact that someone at Nickelodeon had a twitter feed put onto the official website and it included Jason's profile and he posts really crude stuff. Parents complained about it even though technically it wasn't Jason's fault. He probably never asked to be put on the official Nickelodeon site and it is his twitter so he can post whatever he wants within reason.

About halfway through season 2, he just disappeared. Dominic Catrambone was hired to fill in the rest of season 2, trying to mimic Jason's voice but it was really obvious it wasn't Jason and he started getting a load of abuse for it. Not to his 'face' as it were but people were being really nasty over social media, complaining about the new voice.

Then Seth Green took over in season 3, with Leo having a throat injury written into the series overall story line to explain the sudden voice change. He got some stick for it but not as much as Dominic.

CyberCubed
10-14-2017, 03:06 PM
Dominic only voiced him for the last 4 episodes of Season 2. His first ep was, "A Chinatown Ghost story" and he did that plus the other 3 Season 2 eps. Leonardo didn't even have that many lines because he's knocked out for most of the Season 2 finale or doesn't talk during the Foot fight, and in the Chinatown episode he was posessed.

newfan
10-14-2017, 03:30 PM
Thanks for that Kelligraffie, I did think it odd that Biggs didn't complete season 2, if it had been that he chose not to do it anymore.

Aaronardo
10-16-2017, 04:02 PM
"We're takin' the heart and you're goin' to jail!"

Still gives me a chuckle today.

Aside from that, Annihilation: Earth is a pretty fun episode in its own right but most of my potential rewatches are killed by those last two minutes with Fugitoid randomly showing up and Casey's notorious "this is so awesome!!" Single most infuriating moment in the entire show for me.

Konchadunga
10-17-2017, 04:06 PM
Five seasons on, and I still think the worst moment in memory was Turtle Temper; mostly because of Splinter's attitude. Thirty years with this franchise has nailed home that we aren't going to get a Mirage-accurate cartoon of the turtles having the capability to be no-nonsense, classic ninja assassins, but even then, there are sinkholes I'd think this show should sidestep, and this, this was one of them.

I don't have a problem that a kids' show wants to teach that getting your judgement clouded by anger is a problem. I don't mind Splinter being the guy that teaches it. But I do call total, bipedal mutant bull on Splinter thinking that teaching the lesson justifies giving the turtles greater exposure to the rest of the world, when in the very last episode he knew that the Foot Clan would be coming to track them. I'm sorry, but self-preservation should have taken priority over being polite in that case.

Donny's computer84
12-30-2017, 02:26 PM
Overall I thought the show was good however, the last few episodes left a few things open. They did not follow-up on some of the mishaps on some of the characters during the show. example what ever happened to the Pulverizer or some of the other things that were not addressed in later episodes.:D

Powder
12-30-2017, 02:36 PM
Mutagen Man was killed in the fight club, we saw his broken casing at the pit's bottom.

neatoman
12-30-2017, 03:51 PM
When April's dad was cured by a single drop of retromutagen, after they had already made a big deal about only having two canisters, which could have easily cured everyone who tried to steal it, if not all victims shown up until that point. That was really stupid.

Gunpowder
02-06-2018, 11:55 PM
Dominic only voiced him for the last 4 episodes of Season 2. His first ep was, "A Chinatown Ghost story" and he did that plus the other 3 Season 2 eps.

He voiced Leo for the last 7 episodes of Season 2, starting with "Pizza Face."

Shiro Kame
02-08-2018, 10:05 AM
There's a lot of these moments for me; especially when Mikey or Season 4-5 Casey is involved. They really show that the writers cannot write a good story, or at least keep it entertaining to end. They rush s*** and make characters come off as stupid when it suits them.