Could Splinter turn out to be April's father?

[Breadcrab]

So I'm sure we've all seen the teaser trailer by now. They seem to be trying harder than ever to link April to the Turtles via this new origin story, wherein Shredder and April's father created the turtles somehow.

Which honestly got me thinking... could Splinter be her dad?

I mean, think about it.

- They haven't shown him at all in this trailer, so we don't even know how he looks like or what ethnicity he'll be. I mean hey, they whitewashed Shredder, who's to say they stopped there?
- In the interview with the screenwriter, he was vague but said Splinter would be an "important component."
- If the turtles are indeed made in some lab by Shredder and Mr. O'Neil, then it's likely that Splinter would be created by the same process, using a subject nearby.
- Him and Shredder theoretically working together and knowing each other could be some kind of set up for their rivalry.
- They've cast someone as Young April, which sounds to me like there may be a scene where her father may have 'mysteriously disappeared' when she was young.

Maybe I'm just going crazy, but the more I think about this possibility, the more scarily real it feels. Perhaps they'd set this up as a twist? Give April a "I must find out what happened to my father" motivation and then reveal that it was Splinter all along?

I could be completely wrong. I kind of hope I'm completely wrong. But what do you guys think? Would they pull something like this?

[TurtleTitan97]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised. Though there'd better be a good explanation on how he knows martial arts if this actually happens.

[Luckyday]

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Wait a minute...:teek:

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[electric_sheep]

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Wait a minute...:teek:

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This and the posibilty of turtles being human's mutated into turtles.

[Powder]

Someone made this point to me the other day and it's just... it's absurd at first, but when you give it some thought, seems entirely likely. Even moreso when you consider that Casey is supposedly gonna be Vernon's cousin. They're trying so hard to make this really interpersonal story and it's just dreadful.

[TrickOrTreater]

Might as friggin' well.

Megan Fox is the center of this universe.

[Cryomancer]

At this point this better be the case otherwise the cast is just stupidly packed. You've got April and Vernon as the presumed leads, Sachs as the villain + (probably) Karai, the 4 TMNT + Splinter, and then also April's dad is gonna somehow get screen time in there, alongside April's boss and the foot clan members?

If he's not Splinter then we're gonna get about 10 minutes of mutants in this movie. if that's not what's already happening anyway.

[electric_sheep]

Might as friggin' well.

Megan Fox is the center of this universe.

Krang is her grandmother, calling it now. She's 120 year's old and walks around in a wheelchair. Probably has the voice of 87 krang.

[Luckyday]

This and the posibilty of turtles being human's mutated into turtles.

Oddly enough, I am open to accept human mutating thing but this? This is so laughable that it hurts.

[electric_sheep]

Oddly enough, I am open to accept human mutating thing but this? This is so laughable that it hurts.

But if they where humans first wouldn't they be Teenage Mutant Ninja Humans?

[PizzaFan87]

It's possible... but that means the emotional core of the movie will be Megan Fox and a CGI rat.

[Powder]

It's possible... but that means the emotional core of the movie will be Megan Fox and a CGI rat.

Well, all things we've seen & heard indicate it's her movie anyway. Maybe it is.

[electric_sheep]

Well, all things we've seen & heard indicate it's her movie anyway. Maybe it is.

She can't interact even with regular human's i am anxious to see how will he interact with CGI creations, you see little glimpse of that in the trailer. This movie will be amazing!

[psychturtle]

It makes just too much sense. She will then kiss Raphael at some point in the movie which means she just kissed her brother....

[electric_sheep]

It makes just too much sense. She will then kiss Raphael at some point in the movie which means she just kissed her brother....

I think that Leo has more kissable lips, she will kiss Leo.

[BabyTurtles]

sure, I wouldn't mind :)

[TrickOrTreater]

sure, I wouldn't mind :)

Really? Why?

[Machias Banshee]

I would be extremely unhappy if they take that route. I want Splinter to be Splinter and not April's Dad, turtles keeper, Sach's evil scientist partner, Chet and whatever else they can make him... :(

[blindturtle02]

I would be extremely unhappy if they take that route. I want Splinter to be Splinter and not April's Dad, turtles keeper, Sach's evil scientist partner, Chet and whatever else they can make him... :(

I agree. Splinter as April's dad would just be out there. I love how they're handling the whole Karai thing in 2012, but I just can't picture Splinter and April being related. I'd also be unhappy. Don't really like the idea of him being Shredder's fellow scientist either. That's making me think of the whole Alec Holland/Anton Arcane partnership. Cool in Swampthing but not in Turtles, in my opinion anyway.

[psychturtle]

It would be Luke and Leia all over again.


Just wait till shredder stalks April into a dire spot and says..."April.. I am your father...it was me all along"

[1987]

it would not surprise me one bit if this turns out to be true. michael bay has been trolling this movie from day 1 ever since he got the rights. its all about the $$ and pi$$in off fans.

[BabyTurtles]

Really? Why?

if you haven't noticed XD I'm pretty open-minded to new stuff. :D
I honestly don't mind changing stuff up as long as it's done right :)

and Splinter being April's father sounds kinda cool~ that would make her sorta like a sister to the turtles *___*

[Kanon]

If Aprils father turns out to be Splinter, that would make her the sister of the turtles!

I kinda hope its just something like in the IDW comicbooks, that Splinter mutated and trashed their mutagen experiments or so.

[Casey]

Yeah. I'm weighing in that it seems like a real possibility. Despite my dislike of this trailer and everything I know of this film in general, I don't think it's the worst idea ever albeit cheap. I'd rather not see it in a big budget turtles film though. GIVE US THE TURTLES FILM WE WANT!!!

[Warhorse]

If Aprils father turns out to be Splinter, that would make her the sister of the turtles!

I kinda hope its just something like in the IDW comicbooks, that Splinter mutated and trashed their mutagen experiments or so.

Only if she's related to them by blood. Which I doubt. People are trying to get incest with the nick toon with Leo and Karai, but, they keep forgetting that the Turtles are not biologically Splinter's sons. Just think of it as another twist in the Brady Bunch saga.

[the fixer]

April... Splinter's...daughter...

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[bwwd]

yes he sholuld be her father and sister in law but adopted and leonardo should be foster father, that would be awsum, i love changes, bring it on!! cant wait for turtlelips.:o

[Leo656]

I'm almost positive there's NO way to do that without making it f*cking stupid.

Like Abrams and his silly little, "Lex Luthor was really a Kryptonian sleeper agent sent to Earth to kill Kal-El" idea from 2003-ish. Like, yeah, it's an idea, and you could try it, but holy sh*t, how f*cking drunk were you when you thought of it, and further, why would you even assume it'd work?

"New and Different" doesn't mean "creative or inspired". There's a reason why "brainstorming" is commonly known as "throwing sh*t at the wall to see what sticks." That's really all MOST ideas are, in general. Just sh*t.

Not every idea needs to be executed, just because it never has been. Like George Carlin said, "Not every ejaculation deserves a name."

This idea, for sure, would be the most horrifying of bloody wads, for sure.

[TigerClaw]

I doubt that April's Dad becomes Splinter, The idea just sounds ridiculous, how do you explain his knowledge and expertize in martial arts?

[electric_sheep]

I doubt that April's Dad becomes Splinter, The idea just sounds ridiculous, how do

How you explain his knowledge and expertize in martial arts when your character is a little person and all the Japanese stuff from his origin is cut?

[TigerClaw]

How you explain his knowledge and expertize in martial arts when your character is a little person and all the Japanese stuff from his origin is cut?
Its possible that they are using a bit of the IDW origin, Comic Vine wrote a great article explaining why the new Origin has potential.
http://www.comicvine.com/articles/why-the-new-tmnt-movie-origin-has-potential/1100-148387/

[Leo656]

Off topic, but... Am I the only one who finds "little person" to be more condescending than "midget"?

I've met and even worked with a few. By and large, the phrase, "I ain't a 'little person', I'm a f*cking midget!" (emphasis theirs) gets tossed around a fair bit. Dead serious, the ones I've met are MORE offended by people trying to get the term "Little People" over.

It's like "Native American". If that's the "right" term, why did they themselves start, and name, AIM, aka the "American Indian Movement"?

I'unno, I call 'em midgets, I mean, what's gonna happen, one of 'em gets angry and tries to fight me over it? That'd be super adorable. :lol:

[Candy Kappa]

Off topic, but... Am I the only one who finds "little person" to be more condescending than "midget"?

I've met and even worked with a few. By and large, the phrase, "I ain't a 'little person', I'm a f*cking midget!" (emphasis theirs) gets tossed around a fair bit. Dead serious, the ones I've met are MORE offended by people trying to get the term "Little People" over.

It's like "Native American". If that's the "right" term, why did they themselves start, and name, AIM, aka the "American Indian Movement"?

I'unno, I call 'em midgets, I mean, what's gonna happen, one of 'em gets angry and tries to fight me over it? That'd be super adorable. :lol:

dunno, Dwarf sounds better then Midget.

and reading upon it, midget is a description of a proportionate dwarf, so it only describes a certain type of visual appearance of Dwarfism. Midgets are proportionate like a tall person, while Dwarfs have disproportionate proportions.

And since, midget harkens back to the freak circus, it's been more or less been removed and dwarf have generally replaced midget even for proportionally short people.

But, all within context, midget is also used as a word for miniature, so midget wrestling doesn't have to be a derogatory term, it's just miniature wrestling

[Turo602]

You know things are ****ed up when something like this doesn't sound far-fetched.

[Shark_Blade]

I'm fine with it too.

[Leo656]

Candy Kappa: Well, Short-Sleeved Sampson proudly uses "It's Midget Time!" as his calling card/catch phrase, and all 3-foot-whatever of him very well could likely whup my ass if I'm being serious, so I'unno. I never wanted to argue the point with him. :lol:

Great guy, though, seriously.

[electric_sheep]

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[Huzzah]

I'm actually okay with Splinter as April's dad, I mean it is different, but I'll keep an open mind. Provided it is handled well, of course the martial arts mastery is a little more questionable in this case, unless they handle it all Matrix-y (computer program..."I know kung-fu."). It would set up a rivalry between Shredder (still shouldn't be white) and Splinter.

Hopefully it doesn't happen, but I'm willing to accept it...cautiously...

Personally I hope it's more of a trainer of the Foot, who realized that white Shredder has corrupted the ideals of the Foot by making it into his own personal army, and turned his back on Shredder in disgust, and that white Shredder decided to use the Foot legend of the Shredder as a means of intimidation.

[TrickOrTreater]

You know things are ****ed up when something like this doesn't sound far-fetched.

Kinda sad we're even entertaining the idea, huh?

[UGHShellshocked]

So I'm sure we've all seen the teaser trailer by now. They seem to be trying harder than ever to link April to the Turtles via this new origin story, wherein Shredder and April's father created the turtles somehow.

Which honestly got me thinking... could Splinter be her dad?

I mean, think about it.

- They haven't shown him at all in this trailer, so we don't even know how he looks like or what ethnicity he'll be. I mean hey, they whitewashed Shredder, who's to say they stopped there?
- In the interview with the screenwriter, he was vague but said Splinter would be an "important component."
- If the turtles are indeed made in some lab by Shredder and Mr. O'Neil, then it's likely that Splinter would be created by the same process, using a subject nearby.
- Him and Shredder theoretically working together and knowing each other could be some kind of set up for their rivalry.
- They've cast someone as Young April, which sounds to me like there may be a scene where her father may have 'mysteriously disappeared' when she was young.

Maybe I'm just going crazy, but the more I think about this possibility, the more scarily real it feels. Perhaps they'd set this up as a twist? Give April a "I must find out what happened to my father" motivation and then reveal that it was Splinter all along?

I could be completely wrong. I kind of hope I'm completely wrong. But what do you guys think? Would they pull something like this?

I don't necessarily think its going to be the case with Splinter being April's father.

1. Sachs is probably a spy at TCRI and while hes "working" with her father he is secretly setting up his own company. The Turtles and Splinter being test subjects are the only successful batch of experiments with the Ooze. April being at TCRI on a take your daughter to work day.

2. TCRI lab probably gets raided, gets destroyed and her father is killed, Young April saves the turtles and Splinter by dropping them down a drain.

3. I think they will probably go with the IDW comic storyline where Sach's knowing all about the Turtles and Splinter wants to retrieve them so he can harness the mutagen from their blood.

[sethmartin]

Also according to people who have seen Splinter's look. He is wearing Japanese samurai clothing and has a fu man chu beard. This would be pretty weird if he started out as a white guy. Also when Sachs is explaining this to April, they are standing in front of Japanese artwork. William Fichtner also spilled the beans in an interview that in this universe there are (paraphrasing) "Several people who become Shredder".

[TrickOrTreater]

William Fichtner also spilled the beans in an interview that in this universe there are (paraphrasing) "Several people who become Shredder".

Where'd he say that?

[sethmartin]

Where'd he say that?

Sorry I had to go and find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXAEaI4rLZY (9:30)

His actual quote is "There are guys who become Shredder". He also states that anyone who wears the suit "becomes" Shredder. It's pretty vague but when I heard it a long time ago, it sounded like he was hinting at the idea that there were multiple Shredders throughout the years and Eric Sachs is just another one.

[TigerClaw]

Also according to people who have seen Splinter's look. He is wearing Japanese samurai clothing and has a fu man chu beard. This would be pretty weird if he started out as a white guy. Also when Sachs is explaining this to April, they are standing in front of Japanese artwork. William Fichtner also spilled the beans in an interview that in this universe there are (paraphrasing) "Several people who become Shredder".
What about the whole rumor that Shredder is a Utrom, If you say several people, It can only mean We got Eric Sachs, We got a Utrom and the Shredder armor.

[TrickOrTreater]

Sorry I had to go and find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXAEaI4rLZY (9:30)

His actual quote is "There are guys who become Shredder". He also states that anyone who wears the suit "becomes" Shredder. It's pretty vague but when I heard it a long time ago, it sounded like he was hinting at the idea that there were multiple Shredders throughout the years and Eric Sachs is just another one.

Hmm.

For some reason that makes me think there's something specific about the armor.

[Warboss74]

Sorry I had to go and find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXAEaI4rLZY (9:30)

His actual quote is "There are guys who become Shredder". He also states that anyone who wears the suit "becomes" Shredder. It's pretty vague but when I heard it a long time ago, it sounded like he was hinting at the idea that there were multiple Shredders throughout the years and Eric Sachs is just another one.

That's not what Fichtner is referring to when he talks about guys becoming Shredder in the film. He's talking about the entirety of the franchise.

[sethmartin]

That's not what Fichtner is referring to when he talks about guys becoming Shredder in the film. He's talking about the entirety of the franchise.

Yeah could be that too.

[electric_sheep]

Megan Fox I am your father, and i am also a midget and a rat. Now, meat your four new brothers Teenage Mutant Ninja Human Turtles. Also we have to battle my ex lab assistant Erich Sachs who is now Super Mega Death Shredder and his evil grandmother Krang! So basically Megan Fox is the center of the whole universe, everything will revolve around her.

[kolaida]

Uhm, Splinter might be April's dad....? I'm usually pretty open minded, but that's just really pushing it.... why not, though? Shoot, like someone else said, we just need to make this the Brady Bunch family! xD Everyone needs to be related! xD

[Warboss74]

Yeah could be that too.
It is that, though.

[Jester]

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[Batman_89_aficionado]

I so do not want to see Karai as a Shredder wannabe. Frick that.

[Sumac]

It is a possibility. But I don't like this idea. If everyone connected to each other in some way - it makes origin of Turtles too cluttered. Too much improbable coincidences.
Though, once again, everything depends on execution.

[JTH]

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[BubblyShell22]

That would be the dumbest thing ever if Splinter is her father. It makes no sense for her to be Irish and yet have a Japanese dad unless she was adopted. No, just no.

[NinjaPug]

That would be the dumbest thing ever if Splinter is her father. It makes no sense for her to be Irish and yet have a Japanese dad unless she was adopted. No, just no.

You're assuming that Hamato Yoshi and/or his pet rat are even in this.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, because we don't know what Splinter's origin is in this one. He could still be Hamato Yoshi, and if he isn't, then the whole thing is just f*cked up.

[xChri5x]

I'm guessing that the Eric Sachs/Shredder thing will mirror professor quirrell/voldemort thing

[Xav]

He could still be Hamato Yoshi, and if he isn't, then the whole thing is just f*cked up.So you thought the 1990 movie was **** up, when they went with the comic origin and made Splinter a rat instead of Yoshi?

[Huzzah]

I'm sure there will be a mention of Hamato Yoshi as well as Oroku Saki, just to what extent is still up in the air.

[TrickOrTreater]

I'm sure there will be a mention of Hamato Yoshi as well as Oroku Saki, just to what extent is still up in the air.

Kinda sad we can only guess as far as a mention in this movie for major characters that ignite the story at its center.

[BubblyShell22]

So you thought the 1990 movie was **** up, when they went with the comic origin and made Splinter a rat instead of Yoshi?

No, I didn't. I meant if he's April's father instead of either being Yoshi or Yoshi's pet rat that it'll be f*cked up. I should have clarified it more. Sorry.