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Warhorse
03-29-2014, 11:53 AM
I'm basing this on Transformers, where in the first, we lost Jazz, in the second, we lost temporarily Optimus and the third, we lost Ironhide (who was my favorite, them bastards.)

Are the Turtles safe from the same fate?

snake
03-29-2014, 12:01 PM
No turtle will be killed.

The Shelf
03-29-2014, 12:04 PM
What if the movie kills off Splinter?

Vicky82
03-29-2014, 12:06 PM
None of the Turtles will be killed off that would be stupid and I seriously don't think Kevin and Peter would allow that to happen. I can see them killing off Splinter but not in this movie maybe in the sequels.

Transformers is totaly different, they are robots and in the cartoons there were a lot of them and I expect Bay was influenced by the Transformers cartoon movie in the 80s where they killed off most of the original Autobots.

BabyTurtles
03-29-2014, 12:06 PM
I'm pretty sure all the turtles will be okay....

maybe one of them gets badly injured (I'd bet Raph)

Warhorse
03-29-2014, 12:10 PM
None of the Turtles will be killed off that would be stupid and I seriously don't think Kevin and Peter would allow that to happen. I can see them killing off Splinter but not in this movie maybe in the sequels.

Transformers is totaly different, they are robots and I expect Bay was influenced by the Transformers cartoon movie in the 80s where they killed off most of the original Autobots.


They don't own the franchise anymore, so they cannon dictate what can or cannot happen in anything with the Turtles no more. I really wished they had gone the route that J.K. Rowlings did (she rented out the property on the basis that all creative decisions are under her control)

I hope this doesn't happen, but nothing surprises me anymore. They could even kill off April if they wanted to.

Candy Kappa
03-29-2014, 12:10 PM
I'm sure we'll get a fake-out with either Leo or Raph. And when everyone thinks he is dead, he'll reemerge and everyone will cheer.

As cliche as possible.

Warhorse
03-29-2014, 12:12 PM
Would you be up for April dying, like what happened to the main chick in TDK?

Vicky82
03-29-2014, 12:21 PM
I'm pretty sure all the turtles will be okay....

maybe one of them gets badly injured (I'd bet Raph)

Yeah I think they probably get injured.

They don't own the franchise anymore, so they cannon dictate what can or cannot happen in anything with the Turtles no more. I really wished they had gone the route that J.K. Rowlings did (she rented out the property on the basis that all creative decisions are under her control)

I hope this doesn't happen, but nothing surprises me anymore. They could even kill off April if they wanted to.

I know they don't own them now but I thought they would have some say, they are involved in this movie arn't they?

Killing April off could be interesting but I can't see that happening in the movie.

Breadcrab
03-29-2014, 12:21 PM
I seriously doubt they would have the balls. It would be creatively suicidal.

If they want this to potentially be a franchise, they're not gonna axe a character that's vital to the team-dynamic of the heroes. It would piss off fans and non-fans alike, making unsatisfied viewers and complaining parents. There's no reason they'd take that kind of risk.

Sure, as you said, Transformers featured the deaths of some Autobot characters. But let's be honest; the lineup of Transformers is so vast that they're easily replaceable, and they never killed off the more important, marketable characters like Optimus and Bumblebee.

So yeah. Not gonna happen. The studio execs and marketing people would never let that slide. As someone else said, maaaaaybe they'd kill off Splinter, but one of the turtles? Shell no.

Sighphi
03-29-2014, 12:26 PM
Mike is very like the one to say, "What's up my little bitches."
So it would probably be him.

BODYCOUNT
03-29-2014, 12:35 PM
The thing about the Turtles are they are specifically 4 Brothers. 4 being one constant and the fact they are turtles being the other. Now in IDW they are legit brothers not just turtles in a bowl brothers. But any other character to me is expendable in the right time and circumstance...

Warhorse
03-29-2014, 12:37 PM
They could always go the route that the 2k3 toon episode, Same as it Never Was, did.

Dākunaito
03-29-2014, 12:41 PM
I'm thinking that when 3 of the turtles are captured we will be given the illusion that raph might be dead.

BODYCOUNT
03-29-2014, 12:43 PM
I'm thinking that when 3 of the turtles are captured we will be given the illusion that raph might be dead.

as long as that happens after the mountain scene that could be a possibility...

Dākunaito
03-29-2014, 12:47 PM
as long as that happens after the mountain scene that could be a possibility...

Yeah I don't know where in the timeline each event will take place, I'm assuming they are captured in the lair when its invaded, but either raph is presumed dead to the turtles or he just isn't there to begin with.

Vicky82
03-29-2014, 01:06 PM
I'm thinking that when 3 of the turtles are captured we will be given the illusion that raph might be dead.

No I don't think so because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkro68I5b4&list=FLqMmaq_WOjCKa6H0ayE9WOA&index=8

Someone (I think Mikey) shouts out, where's Raph)

I'm wondering what happens to Splinter when the lair is invaded, does he get get away, he isn't seen with other 3 when they are captured.

TMNT is cooler than MOTU
03-29-2014, 01:08 PM
No way in hell they'd kill off any of the turtles. The robots in Transformers are basically interchangeable anyways, so it didn't matter if one of them was blown to smithereens.

However, they might kill off Splinter. Blockbusters these days have a tendency to kill off the head father figure. Surprised Alfred made it out of Nolan's trilogy still intact.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-29-2014, 01:17 PM
No way in hell they'd kill off any of the turtles. The robots in Transformers are basically interchangeable anyways, so it didn't matter if one of them was blown to smithereens.

However, they might kill off Splinter. Blockbusters these days have a tendency to kill off the head father figure. Surprised Alfred made it out of Nolan's trilogy still intact.

this, theres hundreds of transformers over 4 turtles..now they could kill of splinter...its something we know happens in one story so its not like its out of the realm of possibility


also Eastman and Laird don't own it anymore...BUT i am pretty sure this movie has at least Eastman as consultant, and as crazy lovable as he is sometimes he wouldnt kill the turtles off


and if i remember right i read somewhere Laird has some sort of clause in the selling contract he can take creative control of certian projects for a short time

Slade
03-29-2014, 01:26 PM
All four


I kid :lol:

Sleepingseeker
03-29-2014, 01:28 PM
Could you imagine!? Oh man, that would be a twist, :lol:

I could see them having one seriously injured but pulling through, of course, at the very last moment. It would be something to kill off Splinter - wow, that would cause some serious ripples.

Dākunaito
03-29-2014, 01:35 PM
No I don't think so because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkro68I5b4&list=FLqMmaq_WOjCKa6H0ayE9WOA&index=8

Someone (I think Mikey) shouts out, where's Raph)

I'm wondering what happens to Splinter when the lair is invaded, does he get get away, he isn't seen with other 3 when they are captured.

Good point maybe they are separated by shredder, he may want them for different reasons or maybe its a simple as he actually is in that scene we just never got to see.

slingtheory
03-29-2014, 01:51 PM
Yeah I don't know where in the timeline each event will take place, I'm assuming they are captured in the lair when its invaded, but either raph is presumed dead to the turtles or he just isn't there to begin with.

I'm just guessing but it looks like they're in new York when they get captured so I bet the mountain scene is them making their escape after raph showed up to save them from sach's evil laboratory. the escape from the lab in the blue door script happened in the snow if im not mistaken so I think it supports my theory

electric_sheep
03-29-2014, 01:53 PM
This turtles will also have FHD...

kolaida
03-29-2014, 07:56 PM
I doubt any will die, but I'm sure there will be moments where some of the other turtles might believe someone is seriously injured or worse. I can't see them killing any of the turtles off in the first movie (or April since she seems to be a main character). Now, Splinter-- maybe....

If the movies gets some sequels and does some time leaps, then sure I could see a turtles dying off later. But not in this movie. I would be really shocked.

Cryomancer
03-29-2014, 10:46 PM
Leonardo because he's the most difficult to write for the types of people behind this movie.

Iroh
03-29-2014, 10:58 PM
My guess is that Splinter might be killed off to save Michelangelo since he is careless. A valuable lesson will be learned where Mikey will take it out on himself for the master's demise.

graphic_content
03-29-2014, 11:00 PM
I'm basing this on Transformers, where in the first, we lost Jazz, in the second, we lost temporarily Optimus and the third, we lost Ironhide (who was my favorite, them bastards.)

Are the Turtles safe from the same fate?

The difference being that the Turtles (with the exception of the live action show) are four distinct brothers - where as there are a TON of Transformers, and minus the major players, Optimus, Bumblebee, StarScream and a few choice others, they are all really interchangeable.

Did anyone actually feel bad when Jazz died? My guess, no.

Will people burn the theater down if a Turtle dies? Almost certain, yes.

Coola Yagami
03-29-2014, 11:23 PM
Comparing 4 turtles, to an almost endless supply of robots.... Yeah, none of the turtles are going to die. With Transformers as long as they don't kill the major characters, they can easily kill off some of the lesser ones and replace them with one of the 9000 robots they have in tow to take their spot.

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 01:45 AM
Leonardo because he's the most difficult to write for the types of people behind this movie.

What? Leonardo is probably going to be second behind Raph in stealing the show in my opinion.

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 01:46 AM
The difference being that the Turtles (with the exception of the live action show) are four distinct brothers - where as there are a TON of Transformers, and minus the major players, Optimus, Bumblebee, StarScream and a few choice others, they are all really interchangeable.

Did anyone actually feel bad when Jazz died? My guess, no.

Will people burn the theater down if a Turtle dies? Almost certain, yes.

No, but many people I know were pissed when Ironhide died.

Leofan26
03-30-2014, 01:49 AM
I don't think any of the turtles will get killed off, I could see it being Splinter maybe ( Out of any one )

I could see what some are talking about, leaving people to think one of them died, Leo when he fights Shredder or whatever.

Sumac
03-30-2014, 06:51 AM
Comparing 4 turtles, to an almost endless supply of robots.... Yeah, none of the turtles are going to die. With Transformers as long as they don't kill the major characters, they can easily kill off some of the lesser ones and replace them with one of the 9000 robots they have in tow to take their spot.
This. There are only 4 Turtles and they are not interchangable, unlike Transformers. So killing any of them is not an option.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 11:42 AM
No, but many people I know were pissed when Ironhide died.

very true, BUT id argue that people were Pissed because they grew to love Ironhide and his death literally came out of no where....it was a shocker no one saw coming

Cryomancer
03-30-2014, 01:00 PM
What? Leonardo is probably going to be second behind Raph in stealing the show in my opinion.

Hollywood screenwriter shortcut vision:

Raphael :tough guy, angry, main character fodder for some reason
Mike: party dude lolz!!
Don: tech guy, nerd talk etc
Leonardo: uh....honor? Silent I guess maybe? Whatever kill him for dramatic effect.

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 01:57 PM
very true, BUT id argue that people were Pissed because they grew to love Ironhide and his death literally came out of no where....it was a shocker no one saw coming

Well, same thing could happen in this. The movie is set up to carry 3 movies if the first one takes off, and they could very well kill of a character that we grew to love over two other movies. I honestly don't think they would be bold enough to kill off one of the Turtles, but, the movie going public has been crying for "dark" movies, and killing off one of the Turtles is about as dark as it could get.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 02:04 PM
Well, same thing could happen in this. The movie is set up to carry 3 movies if the first one takes off, and they could very well kill of a character that we grew to love over two other movies. I honestly don't think they would be bold enough to kill off one of the Turtles, but, the movie going public has been crying for "dark" movies, and killing off one of the Turtles is about as dark as it could get.

ilike someone said earlier you cant have TMNT with out the core turtles...they are safe..now honestly Splinter,vernon even shredder i feel are fair game


aside from all its issues if they explain the mutation in the sequel to "fix" the turtles faces..(hey why not the transformers had new looks in all 4)

i would not mind seeing them deal with the Loss of Splinter

kolaida
03-30-2014, 02:15 PM
Well, same thing could happen in this. The movie is set up to carry 3 movies if the first one takes off, and they could very well kill of a character that we grew to love over two other movies. I honestly don't think they would be bold enough to kill off one of the Turtles, but, the movie going public has been crying for "dark" movies, and killing off one of the Turtles is about as dark as it could get.

Has the movie audience been crying for dark movies lately? I haven't been a regular movie goer since 2010 so I'm not really sure anymore. I thought all the Batman stuff would satisfy people's dark cravings. Besides, Ironman seems to have gone over well (and the Avengers) and I don't know if that really qualifies as "dark."

I could see, if the movies extends beyond one, them maybe killing off someone (after aging them a bit).

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 02:17 PM
Has the movie audience been crying for dark movies lately?

regular/general audience no...they people who usually ask for dark gritty versions of childhood franchises are fans who want said film so they arnt made fun of for liking a "kids" show with their non fan friends

Whatswiththeheadbands?
03-30-2014, 02:22 PM
None of the Turtles will be killed off.

I thought that was obvious.

Lou 500
03-30-2014, 02:54 PM
No but I wouldn't complain if April died/disappeared. God I'm harsh but that faint... that "faint!"

chrisdude
03-30-2014, 03:05 PM
The turtles probably get taken from the lair, while Raph is off on one of his tantrums. Then he'll need April and Vernon's help to find and save them. Then the snow escape scene.

Then, they regroup and go after the technodrome 8)

Coola Yagami
03-30-2014, 03:05 PM
No but I wouldn't complain if April died/disappeared. God I'm harsh but that faint... that "faint!"

OMG.... dat sig..... can not unsee.... Kinda wish the camera cut away so we didn't have to see Mikey do the O thing when he said 'whoaaa'. I know that's what we're gonna see throughout the while movie, but that was a HORRIBLE shot to first showcase their uhhh lips in the trailer.

Lou 500
03-30-2014, 03:15 PM
OMG.... dat sig..... can not unsee.... Kinda wish the camera cut away so we didn't have to see Mikey do the O thing when he said 'whoaaa'. I know that's what we're gonna see throughout the while movie, but that was a HORRIBLE shot to first showcase their uhhh lips in the trailer.

Some people have theorized that the absence of Casey and those luscious lips are pointing the way of April having a full-on smooch with one of them. Raph looks like the most likely candidate at the moment given how many scenes he appears to have with her... but Mikey definitely has potential there.

And plus, what better way for Bay to get his revenge on Fox for saying all those mean things about him?

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 04:36 PM
Some people have theorized that the absence of Casey and those luscious lips are pointing the way of April having a full-on smooch with one of them. Raph looks like the most likely candidate at the moment given how many scenes he appears to have with her... but Mikey definitely has potential there.

And plus, what better way for Bay to get his revenge on Fox for saying all those mean things about him?

Yeah, but if the smooch is with Raph, in real life, he's being played by a really hot looking dude. He's better looking than Shia Laboulf is.

Candy Kappa
03-30-2014, 04:39 PM
Ritchson is quite the looker

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 05:23 PM
Ritchson is quite the looker

Raph's had a couple of good looking dudes playing him. I thought Josh Paise was a looker too back in the day.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 05:25 PM
also its not like Bay is on set to "see her kiss a gross turtle" he is somewhere else working with robots....plus he isnt the one behind the on set wheel

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 06:16 PM
also its not like Bay is on set to "see her kiss a gross turtle" he is somewhere else working with robots....plus he isnt the one behind the on set wheel

I don't mean anything, you're probably right, but I work in satellite tech, and we have engineers that are based in Florida, and overseeing projects in California, Andros Islands and China at the same time. They can do this due to the WWW and insta cams and all of that stuff. Kind of like how the leaders in the Pentagon can oversee what a Navy carrier is doing all the way in the Indian Ocean.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 06:20 PM
nah i get what you mean...im going off more how bay works..he doesnt seem like the kind of guy who would (or can) have his mind in 2 places on 2 different projects

i mean im also speculating as it makes sense why Fox is there is Bay isnt at the helm considering all we heard is they hate each other

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 06:29 PM
nah i get what you mean...im going off more how bay works..he doesnt seem like the kind of guy who would (or can) have his mind in 2 places on 2 different projects

i mean im also speculating as it makes sense why Fox is there is Bay isnt at the helm considering all we heard is they hate each other

Actually, I have seen Bay work (he don't live too far from me) and the guy, for all his faults, is unbelievable when he is at the command of a movie. He has like 10 things going on at the same time, and it's wicked how the explosions and action he choreographs is exactly how he wanted it. His storylines are to be desired, but his set pieces are an awe to behold. I suggest you watch one his scenes in person (I got to watch Bad Boys 2 being filmed) His work ethnic could make the most strictest of military sergeants proud!

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 06:37 PM
well thats what i mean..if i was Bay i would want to focus on what i am doing in front of me, especially explosion wise...over what is going on in NYC.


ive seen some stuff, as much flack as transformers 1 gets i love how much of the human action scenes are not special effects

i think i even remember seeing one where they accidentally blasted a car into an abandoned building

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 06:44 PM
well thats what i mean..if i was Bay i would want to focus on what i am doing in front of me, especially explosion wise...over what is going on in NYC.


ive seen some stuff, as much flack as transformers 1 gets i love how much of the human action scenes are not special effects

i think i even remember seeing one where they accidentally blasted a car into an abandoned building

But that's the thing, he was in control of set pieces at the same time in multiple places. The Keys, Miami, California and Puerto Rico. And this was like a decade ago, before all of the internet stuff started to really take off.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
03-30-2014, 06:45 PM
But that's the thing, he was in control of set pieces at the same time in multiple places. The Keys, Miami, California and Puerto Rico. And this was like a decade ago, before all of the internet stuff started to really take off.

i dont know..anyways my main thing is confusion about Bay vs Fox

Warhorse
03-30-2014, 07:00 PM
i dont know..anyways my main thing is confusion about Bay vs Fox

To be honest, I don't think it was a Bay vs Fox. I think it's more a Spielberg vs Fox. She said something that working for Bay was probably like working for Hitler (whatever that meant) and Spielberg, who is an executive producer of the Transformer films, not to mention the director of 2 very critically acclaimed movies dealing with Hitler themes, he was probably not only not amused, but outright offended.

UGHShellshocked
03-31-2014, 11:45 AM
To be honest, I don't think it was a Bay vs Fox. I think it's more a Spielberg vs Fox. She said something that working for Bay was probably like working for Hitler (whatever that meant) and Spielberg, who is an executive producer of the Transformer films, not to mention the director of 2 very critically acclaimed movies dealing with Hitler themes, he was probably not only not amused, but outright offended.

I guess that leaves Megan Fox off the cast list when Spielberg allows George Lucas to remake E.T. :o and the mailing list for Christmas cards.

As for them killing off a Turtle I don't see it happening but Splinter on the other hand makes me think he doesn't make it through the Sewer raid.

http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/merrick/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_20130509_2060370030_l arge.jpg

You would think they would have captured Splinter and Danny Woodburn would be in a mocap suit being lead out of there.

They said "Splinter is important" perhaps Raph comes home to find him and he bestows his final words of wisdom

http://i.imgur.com/OFJVxcO.jpg It probably happens in this scene

Its all just speculation