Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[Raph's Girl]

JK Rowling's book Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find them is being turned into a movie TRILLOGY. It's set some 70 years before Harry Potter and is about magiczooologist Newt Scamander.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/j-k-rowlings-harry-potter-spinoff-fantastic-beasts-will-be-trilogy-1201150069/

[AT-Man]

OMFG! I hope it's gonna be good. Trilogy worth of material in that tiny book, eh....

[BubblyShell22]

Yep, I heard about this, too. Sounds like it might be interesting. I'd love to check it out and see what transpires.

[snake]

OMFG! I hope it's gonna be good. Trilogy worth of material in that tiny book, eh....

Hobbit syndrome.

[Peanut]

It's NOT EVEN Hobbit syndrome. The Hobbit has tons of stuff implied that you can flesh out. This book is almost non-existent!

[blindturtle02]

JK Rowling's book Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find them is being turned into a movie TRILLOGY. It's set some 70 years before Harry Potter and is about magiczooologist Newt Scamander.

http://variety.com/2014/film/news/j-k-rowlings-harry-potter-spinoff-fantastic-beasts-will-be-trilogy-1201150069/

Glad we're going to be treated to more of the HP universe. I feel Harry's story has been told, but will gladly step back into Rowling's wizarding world to be entertained by other characters and situations. Looking forward to this trilogy.

[Raph's Girl]

And we have a Newt Scamander! Eddie Redmayne has been cast in the role! :D

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/445953-its-official-eddie-redmayne-to-headline-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome. Sure, the book is tiny, but I heard Rowling herself is writing the script, so it should be really good as there's much you can do to expand the world and the book itself.

[AT-Man]

Awesome. Sure, the book is tiny, but I heard Rowling herself is writing the script, so it should be really good as there's much you can do to expand the world and the book itself.

This is a great thing, BUT... is it in the same canon as the books OR the movies? Can't be both. It's the movies, right? F**k!

[Raph's Girl]

This is a great thing, BUT... is it in the same canon as the books OR the movies? Can't be both. It's the movies, right? F**k!

It's based on a book Hermione read. The physical book WAS released in book stores a couple years back. So it's based on a book that was featured in a book....

[Candy Kappa]

I'd imagine the movie(s) are set in the HP movieverse, but who cares when it's not going to affect that storyline. I think it's going to be quite the ride seeing Newt and his adventures.

[Jephael]

I'd love it if the movie showed Hermione reading the book to her and Ron's young children, so then you'd have like a couple shots of Emma Watson looking a little bit older (though not near as old as she was in the epilogue of the final movie) and then you hear her narrating certain parts.

[Amaranthus]

I'd love it if the movie showed Hermione reading the book to her and Ron's young children, so then you'd have like a couple shots of Emma Watson looking a little bit older (though not near as old as she was in the epilogue of the final movie) and then you hear her narrating certain parts.

Narration. Ding!

[BubblyShell22]

No, the book Hermione read was The Tales of Beedle the Bard. This movie is based off of one of Harry's schoolbooks by Newt Scamander. Rowling released a copy of it along with Quidditch Through the Ages, which is another book mentioned in the series.

[Raph's Girl]

Katherine Waterston has been cast as Newt Scamander's wife (or future wife) Porpentina, an American witch. Wonder who they'll get to play her sister, Queenie?

http://comicbook.com/2015/06/15/-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them-casts-katherine-waterst/

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I still can't figure out what this movie is about.

[drgon78]

Fantastical beast and where to find them of course. :lol:

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Fantastical beast and where to find them of course. :lol:

But what does that mean? Am I going to watch three movies about some dope searching for creatures tangentially related to Harry Potter?

This seems like little more than a qwik cash-grab scheme. David Yates is directing, too, which kills my interest entirely.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, it's about Newt Scamander and how he finds certain beasts related to the Harry Potter world. I don't know much about how it will be, but I'd certainly rather see a prequel movie about Dumbledore or the Marauders rather than this. Ah, well, I'll still go see it and if it doesn't suit me, then I won't see the rest.

[Jephael]

I'd certainly rather see a prequel movie about Dumbledore or the Marauders rather than this.

That would be pretty cool.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, and there would be more of a plot than what this is turning out to be.

[NinjaPug]

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/i/2015/11/03/beasts-ew-1389-cover.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Trailer coming on Tuesday

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[Raph's Girl]

Trailer coming on Tuesday

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These trailers announcing there's gonna be a trailer are getting a bit annoying...

[ranger_scout]

It has just been confirmed that Eddie Redmayne will be showing some new footage at the MTV Movie Awards.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/673531-fantastic-beasts-footage-to-debut-at-mtv-movie-awards#/slide/1

[NinjaPug]

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[drgon78]

Finally a real trailer.

[Utrommaniac]

I'm looking forward to this. Having an expansion on the Wizarding world is great, but looking at the American side of wizarding should be better.

The book itself is just the analysis of animals, with little notes and doodles made by a very young Harry and Ron that would be expected from 12-14 year olds in the early 90s. Basically they're MST3K-ing their book.

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The best ones are jabs at Hagrid's expense, in the "Has Hagrid read this book?/no one has told Hagrid about this" department.

I can't find a snapshot of Harry and Ron putting in about ten or so more "x"s in the danger rating of Arcromantulas, which originally had a four stars in the danger rating.

[Powder]

As much as I love the HP movies, I think I'll sit this one out.

[TigerClaw]

Here's a new Comic Con Trailer

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[drgon78]

Another one I can't wait to see.

[snake]

I misread this thread as "fantastic breasts and where to find them"

[TigerClaw]

The movie is not out yet and Warner Bros just announced a sequel for it.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fantasy/warner-bros-announces-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them-sequel-a144175

[drgon78]

It was said awhile ago that it is planned to be a trilogy.

[The Deadman]

The movie is not out yet and Warner Bros just announced a sequel for it.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fantasy/warner-bros-announces-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them-sequel-a144175

It'll make money because the people who dont really pay attention to movie sites will think it's Harry Potter after seeing it's in the same universe as such.

[Krutch]

Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them is a pretty dope title for an LP.

[TigerClaw]

Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them is a pretty dope title for an LP.
I'm sure the sequels will have different titles, Fantastic Beasts and insert whatever here.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm sure the sequels will have different titles, Fantastic Beasts and insert whatever here.

Fantastic Beasts and How to Outrun Them

[TigerClaw]

Fantastic Beasts and How to Outrun Them
Fantastic Beasts and How to Catch Them

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Fantastic Beasts and How to Catch Them

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand you just opened the door to, like, ALL the Pokemon jokes. :trazz:

[Krutch]

You guys know I said "Beats", right? :lol:

[Raph's Girl]

Well this is interesting. Dumbledore has been confirmed for Fantastic Beasts 2. Should be interesting to see who they cast as young Dumbledore.

http://comicbook.com/2016/11/07/dumbledore-to-return-in-fantastic-beasts-2/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well this is interesting. Dumbledore has been confirmed for Fantastic Beasts 2. Should be interesting to see who they cast as young Dumbledore.

http://comicbook.com/2016/11/07/dumbledore-to-return-in-fantastic-beasts-2/

Interesting. Also unsurprising.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The wife and I both loved it. Great movie. Can't wait for the sequel!

[plastroncafe]

I was legit surprised by how much I enjoyed that movie.
To the extent that I'd totally see it in theaters again.

[Andrew NDB]

Nothing really happened in it at all. Was always fun to watch. But just a lot of running, warping around. Feel bad for Colin Farrell... pretty thankless villain, made even more thankless by the big reveal about him at the end.

Movie seems on track to have the smallest grossing weekend of any Harry Potter movie ever. But will still do OK.

[drgon78]

Fun movie, can't wait for the sequels.

[plastroncafe]

Nothing really happened in it at all. Was always fun to watch. But just a lot of running, warping around. Feel bad for Colin Farrell... pretty thankless villain, made even more thankless by the big reveal about him at the end.

You mean nothing happened save for all the world building.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Nothing really happened in it at all. Was always fun to watch. But just a lot of running, warping around. Feel bad for Colin Farrell... pretty thankless villain, made even more thankless by the big reveal about him at the end.

Movie seems on track to have the smallest grossing weekend of any Harry Potter movie ever. But will still do OK.
You mean nothing happened save for all the world building.

A guy lost his beasts and tried to get them back, while accidentally getting caught up in Grindlewald's machinations and Wizard/Muggle (sorry, I hate "no-Maj") relations. Plenty happened.

Plus QUEENIE/KOWALSKI! :tlove::tlove::tlove::tlove:

[plastroncafe]

Queenie/Kowalski!

Yeah, No-Maj/g doesn't work for me either.

I'm also more than a little stoked about moving the plot away from the US for more than a couple of reasons. Not the least of which being I just don't trust Rowling/"Hollywood" to handle anything even remotely Native American. Which they should, because there is no possible way that European settlers brought magic to North America.

I totally get they probably brought wanded magic with them, but...yeah.

Though, having said that, I loved the Thunderbird.

[ranger_scout]

I saw this on Saturday with two friends. It made me happy to see some classic spells being used by new characters. Plus, it was was nice to see what the Wizarding World in America is like on the big screen. Rowling also provided plenty of twists in this film like she usually does in her books.

Grindewald pretending to be another wizard was exactly what Barty Crouch Jr. did in 'Goblet of Fire'. Now I see what they meant by recreating what was done in that film. The entire time I was expecting that little girl to be a villain. I thought it was going to be exactly what ABC did with Cruella de Vil on 'Once Upon a Time'. Boy was I wrong about that.

[Utrommaniac]

Well, I enjoyed it quite a lot, and I'm looking forward to Dumbledore in the next installment.

Poor, poor Credence :cry: .

I swear, Newt has some kind of wizard Aspergers. I could smell it on him through the screen.

And I adored Jacob. He took everything so well and was so sweet.

[Raph's Girl]

Jude Law has been cast as Young-ish Dumbledore!

https://www.pottermore.com/news/jude-law-cast-as-albus-dumbledore-in-next-fantastic-beasts-film

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Jude Law has been cast as Young-ish Dumbledore!

https://www.pottermore.com/news/jude-law-cast-as-albus-dumbledore-in-next-fantastic-beasts-film

Cool! Wouldn't have been my preference, but I like Law.

[AT-Man]

Jude Law has been cast as Young-ish Dumbledore!

https://www.pottermore.com/news/jude-law-cast-as-albus-dumbledore-in-next-fantastic-beasts-film

That's cool. Hopefully he'll have a longish beard, too.

[Shark_Blade]

Imagine Jude Law making out with Johnny Depp!

[Raph's Girl]

"An open casting call has gone out for three actors between the ages of 13 and 16 to play young versions of Newt, Leta, and another character called Sebastian.

They are also looking for actors between 16 and 18 to portray both Gellert Grindelwald and Albus Dumbledore as teenagers."

Yep...that's right. We is getting TEEN Dumbledore! :o


https://www.pottermore.com/news/open-casting-call-for-young-people-announced-for-fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-find-them-sequel

[NinjaPug]

The sequel has a title - Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/fnbst2_first_look_3000x1800-r01.jpg?w=3200

http://ew.com/tv/2017/11/16/fantastic-beasts-title-story/amp/?xid=amprecirc1

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Crimes of Grindlewald?

Um, okay. Not the title I'd have gone with.

But no matter... Queenie/Kowalski!!!

[Shark_Blade]

Yes that muggle baker is back! Along with that blonde witch!! :tlove:

[Coola Yagami]

Aren't these based on books though? You'd already know who's coming back for the next one.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Aren't these based on books though? You'd already know who's coming back for the next one.

They are not.

[Mayhem]

Rowling published the actual "book" referenced by Harry Potter in Philosopher's Stone in 2001 with the proceeds going to charity from sales. The actual story that is being carved out on screen is entirely new and written by Rowling now. Given the first film was set in 1926 and the first edition of "Fantastic Beasts" was published in 1927, it is possible it is now "out" by the time this second film is set.

The only thing we DO know about the end of the films is that Newt marries Porpentina, it's mentioned at the end of Deathly Hallows. One of Newt's grandchildren married Luna Lovegood.

[ranger_scout]

Producer David Heyman believes that the sequel is going to be better than the first film.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/20/fantastic-beasts-sequel-better/

[Andrew NDB]

Producer David Heyman believes that the sequel is going to be better than the first film.

That's good. Part 1 wasn't much of anything at all.

[NinjaPug]

Agreed. Part 1 just felt like world building and set up for the eventual Dumbledore and Grindelwald rivalry that the producers were talking about in the 4 sequels to come. That said I enjoyed the first one way more than I was expecting.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I loved it. Newt was likable as was Jacob, and the story was interesting and had a lot of heart. The creatures were amazing too, but what I enjoyed the most was the interactions between the four main characters- Newt, Jacob, Queenie and Porpentina.

[ranger_scout]

The trailer for the sequel is here. It sure is nice to see Hogwarts Castle again along with the Defense Against the Dark Arts classroom.

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

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[plastroncafe]

Yeah, gosh that's purdy.
I'm in!

[ranger_scout]

Earlier this year, Rowling said that Dumbledore will not be "explicitly" gay in the sequel.

http://ew.com/movies/2018/01/31/fantastic-beasts-dumbledore-gay/

[NinjaPug]

I thought the trailers for the first movie looked bad but the movie was a pleasant surprise. This trailer on the other hand looks pretty dang good and makes me want to see the movie asap. I still wish they would've used the bad press to recast Depp.

Is that Wizarding World logo at the beginning new? I assume that moniker is the equivalent of the Star Wars brand for the Harry Potter franchise.

[drgon78]

I have no problem with Depp's casting and I think this looks better then I thought it would be.

[Andrew NDB]

Is that Wizarding World logo at the beginning new?

Yeah, that's brand new. Definitely Branding™. Like Ghost Corps or whatever.

[ranger_scout]

Our first look at Young Newt Scamander has been released.

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewedit.files.wordpress.com %2F2018%2F07%2Ffb_2_217863287218321890230923.jpg&w=1100&q=85

http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/12/young-newt-fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-grindelwald/

[drgon78]

Well I didn't know we will be getting flashbacks of his childhood.

[ranger_scout]

Here is Jude Law's first interview about playing young Dumbledore.

http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/17/jude-law-dumbledore-interview/

[ranger_scout]

Nine new posters have been released.

https://ew.com/movies/fantastic-beasts-crimes-of-grindelwald-characters/

[neatoman]

Nine new posters have been released.

https://ew.com/movies/fantastic-beasts-crimes-of-grindelwald-characters/

Nagini was an animagus all along... Not sure I like that retcon.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Nagini was an animagus all along... Not sure I like that retcon.

Not as bad as Voldemort making the freaky with Bellatrix and having a bastard daughter.

But yeah, I tend to agree... not in favor.

[neatoman]

Not as bad as Voldemort making the freaky with Bellatrix and having a bastard daughter.

But yeah, I tend to agree... not in favor.

God, the actors and effect better have been good because the script was awful. Not sure why they felt the need to make the new villain Voldemort's daughter, they could have made her a devoted follower or someone completely unrelated.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

God, the actors and effect better have been good because the script was awful. Not sure why they felt the need to make the new villain Voldemort's daughter, they could have made her a devoted follower or someone completely unrelated.

Basically, Rowling signed off on some guy's playwright fanfic because she knew it could make big bucks on Broadway. It's not actually written by Rowling, it's written with her approval. Big difference.

[AT-Man]

Nagini was an animagus all along... Not sure I like that retcon.

It's more likely that Voldemort named his snake after her..... pwetty pwease?

[AT-Man]

Basically, Rowling signed off on some guy's playwright fanfic because she knew it could make big bucks on Broadway. It's not actually written by Rowling, it's written with her approval. Big difference.

I still feel like the whole thing will be retconned at some point. It's a perfect example of why you never let fans create anything. The more diehard fan, the stupider things they come up with.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I still feel like the whole thing will be retconned at some point. It's a perfect example of why you never let fans create anything. The more diehard fan, the stupider things they come up with.

Doesn't have to be retconned. Just ignore it, like a lot of people already have. :tlol:

[ranger_scout]

Right now the film is tracking for an opening weekend somewhere between $65 million to $75 million. The first film opened with $74.4 million back in November 2016.

https://deadline.com/2018/10/fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-of-grindelwald-hits-tracking-with-65m-75m-opening-1202489566/

[ranger_scout]

Doesn't have to be retconned. Just ignore it, like a lot of people already have. :tlol:

Something apparently is being retconned.

A young Professor Minerva McGonagall will be appearing in the film and she will be a young woman. However, the film takes place in 1927, but she was born in 1935.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2460786/fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-of-grindelwald-looks-as-if-its-breaking-harry-potter-canon

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Something apparently is being retconned.

A young Professor Minerva McGonagall will be appearing in the film and she will be a young woman. However, the film takes place in 1927, but she was born in 1935.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2460786/fantastic-beasts-the-crimes-of-grindelwald-looks-as-if-its-breaking-harry-potter-canon


The date in question (1935) doesn't appear in the 7 canon books by Rowling, so I'm okay with it.

Authors get to tweak minor sh!t for later works.

Now, turning Nagini into a woman (who ends up trapped in snake form)? THAT I'm MUCH less happy about. That's a bridge too far.

[ranger_scout]

I thought the sequel was just all right. I was glad to see Hogwarts again, but I left the theater with lots of questions. Another problem was that this movie had too many twists happening too often. It did look great on IMAX though.

[neatoman]

This movie wasn't exactly bad but was stupid as hell, it felt like I was watching a soap opera instead of a Harry Potter prequel.
Credence has a "tragic" romance with a woman destined to become a noseless weirdos milk dispenser.
Leta, Newt's crush from way back, has hooked up with his brother.
Due to a mistake in a magazine, Tina thinks Newt is with Leta and she got mad.
Queenie enchants Jacob so they can get married but they have a falling out when the enchantment is lifted.
Leta's half-brother wants to kill Credence because he thinks Credence is Leta's other half-brother.
Turns out he's not, he's actually Dumbledore's half-brother instead.
There are actually more but you get the point, it's kind of silly.

[drgon78]

I really enjoyed the movie. My only problem was a certain character who joined the villain's side, I saw it coming even at the beginning of the movie, but still didn't like it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This movie wasn't exactly bad but was stupid as hell, it felt like I was watching a soap opera instead of a Harry Potter prequel.
Credence has a "tragic" romance with a woman destined to become noseless weirdos milk dispenser.
Leta, Newt's crush from way back, has hooked up with his brother.
Due to a mistake in a magazine, Tina thinks Newt is with Leta and she got mad.
Queenie enchants Jacob so they can get married but they have a falling out when the enchantment is lifted.
Leta's half-brother wants to kill Credence because he thinks Credence is Leta's other half-brother.
Turns out he's not, he's actually Dumbledore's half-brother instead.
There are actually more but you get the point, it's kind of silly.

I really enjoyed the movie. My only problem was a certain character who joined the villain's side, I saw it coming even at the beginning of the movie, but still didn't like it.

Yeah, I haven't really heard ANYTHING good about the sequel. Except Jude Law... all five minutes worth. :tgrumble:

Still gonna see it eventually, but for now, it's a nah.

[Andrew NDB]

My wife lives and breathes Harry Potter and even she has no interest in seeing it from the pretty much unanimous toxic reviews.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I rewatched the first one last night with Lady Cylons.

...

Ooooooooooooooh boy, the rose-colored glasses really came off. Bad writing, plot holes, bad characterization and choices EVERYWHERE.

If it weren't for the godsend of Jacob Kowalski, that movie would've tanked.

And seeing how all the reviews paint a gnarly picture of the characters who worked the first time (Queenie, Newt), I think this train is already coming off the rails.

Maybe a 3rd movie fixes it. Or probably it doesn't.

[ranger_scout]

Last month, it was reported that production for the next movie has been delayed till this fall.

https://deadline.com/2019/01/fantastic-beasts-3-pushes-production-start-to-late-fall-1202537147/

Dan Folger has revealed the reason why this has happened.

Yeah, we start in the fall. The movie is going to be gigantic! The reason we were given is that the movie is bigger than the first two combined. They needed more time to prep and they didn’t want to rush anything so they pushed it back. I can tell you that we are going to Brazil. I don’t really know much…[laughs]. I’ll get a script closer to when we start shooting.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2466720/fantastic-beasts-3-was-delayed-for-a-gigantic-reason-per-dan-fogler

[ZariusTwo]

Warner Bros have told Johnny Depp his services as Gellert Grindelwald are no longer required

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/johnny-depp-exhits-fantastic-beasts-franchise-1234824564/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Warner Bros have told Johnny Depp his services as Gellert Grindelwald are no longer required

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/johnny-depp-exhits-fantastic-beasts-franchise-1234824564/

:tlol: Well damn. Are we bringing back Farrell then?

[ranger_scout]

:tlol: Well damn. Are we bringing back Farrell then?

His schedule with The Batman could complicate that.

[Autbot_Benz]

Warner Bros have told Johnny Depp his services as Gellert Grindelwald are no longer required

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/johnny-depp-exhits-fantastic-beasts-franchise-1234824564/

WB Better do the same with the crazy bitch Amber Heard on Aquaman 2

[Andrew NDB]

Warner Bros have told Johnny Depp his services as Gellert Grindelwald are no longer required

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/johnny-depp-exhits-fantastic-beasts-franchise-1234824564/

This makes no sense. I don't care if he's in it or not as I probably won't even see this movie but... why would they ask this of him? Were the tapes not enough? Testimonies? Why punish him, on what grounds?

[Leo656]

This makes no sense. I don't care if he's in it or not as I probably won't even see this movie but... why would they ask this of him? Were the tapes not enough? Testimonies? Why punish him, on what grounds?

Because while she most likely hit him, he most likely hit her too, and you can't do that.

The judge in the most recent case, like myself, simply didn't buy the "Yes, I just stood there like a helpless lamb and never raised a finger" insistence. That's not how these things work. I've been saying since the start, they got drunk/high and beat on each other and that's the only version of events that makes ANY sense whatsoever. And again, you're generally not allowed to do that.

WB would have to be pretty bold to ignore a judge's very public claim that, "Yeah, he probably hit her." They'd look horrible to do that. The movies were stumbling anyways between mixed reviews and mediocre box office. He costs WAY too much money anyways and WB isn't going to have it to spend for a long time thanks to the pandemic. Easier to just recast and avoid a myriad of problems which would go with keeping him on... assuming they even get around to making Part III anytime soon.

Likewise, it's going on 5 years and we haven't heard one word about Aquaman 2 in ages - nor are we likely to anytime soon - so again, Heard is probably a non-factor because by the time they get around to making the movie they'll probably have to recast almost every character ANYways.

Ah well. A washed-up lush who hasn't been worth his price tag in over a decade gets taken off of a movie franchise that nobody wanted and most people didn't like or even care about to begin with. Waaahhh waaaaaaaaah. Not even news.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That just means Depp is available for Pirates 9! :tlol:

[Leo656]

That just means Depp is available for Pirates 9! :tlol:

https://i.imgur.com/i7KSh7U.gif

[Andrew NDB]

Because while she most likely hit him, he most likely hit her too, and you can't do that.

Where is the evidence, though? There is a metric ton that she did... where is any that he did?

I suspect what happened here is that the studio is worried that loud Twitter people might boycott him in Beasts 3 regardless of if he actually did anything to Heard... so they gave him a sweetheart deal. Meaning, "Hey, do us a solid... just drop out of Beasts 3 and we'll give you a 3 picture deal for other movies."

Or something like that.

[Leo656]

Weren't there photos of her with bruises? Or are we to assume that was "all fake"?

I get it, you like the guy. But let's be real: Nobody's going to stand there and let another human being wail on them to the extent she supposedly did without hitting them back, that's just common sense. "Evidence", sure, but this was a civil court matter and not a criminal one. And civil court matters can and often are decided by common sense logic equally as much as evidential logic. See the OJ Simpson situation. In a criminal court setting where .0001% reasonable doubt can change the entire verdict, they had no choice but to say he wasn't guilty because a cop said the N-word once upon a time. But in civil court, the verdict was, "Yeah, let's be real, he totally, totally killed those people and we all know it." So yeah, there's evidence, and then there's also, "C'mon, let's not be stupid, we know what happened."

He absolutely didn't lay there like Rodney King and let Amber take 57 free shots, let's just be real. You don't need to be a fly on the wall to know what happened. A couple of coked-up losers went nuts on each other after one or both of them got caught cheating, and now they've been pouting about it for 5 years.

Who cares? Happens every day. If they weren't rich and pretty nobody'd even care and nobody'd be picking sides. They'd just say "F*ck both of these twats" and move on with their lives. If they were from Alabama and it was Johnny Stumpf*cker and Amber Methscabs, nobody'd even give a sh*t.

And LOL at the idea of anyone continuing to give this loser $20 million a movie for a three-movie deal on ANYthing anytime soon. :lol: Seriously, f*ck that guy. Maybe Burton will keep puffing on his dick and tossing him a bone now and then, but I doubt anyone else will.

Don't get me wrong, he'll still get work. But his price tag is gonna have to come down and his days as a mover/shaker in Hollywood are very likely over, or at least diminished. There will always be a ton of thirsty chicks who'll excuse him even if he DID do it (I can't tell you how many chicks I know personally who say out loud they absolutely don't care if he hit Amber Heard, that "she deserved it" and they'd still totally f*ck him because no way he'd ever do that to them you guys). :roll: But he's a huge PR risk, now, and nobody wants to bother with an overpriced problem case who spends twenty grand a month on f*cking wine and brags about it.

He'll still work, but his star has fallen.

[Sumac]

Warner Bros have told Johnny Depp his services as Gellert Grindelwald are no longer required

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/johnny-depp-exhits-fantastic-beasts-franchise-1234824564/
So, crazy bed-shitter goes to star in another blockbuster, but supposedly peaceful (?) guy is ****ed.
Nice justice, shitstains. Nice justice.

I hope those pieces of trash won't be surprised, by the fact, that a lot of people stop support them after this.

And, yeah, maybe Depp hit her. Which is not good, but, if it was done as a self-defense or when he lost control as a result of abuse, I won't blame him that much. And it definitely not the ground to fire him.

[Leo656]

It kind of is.

Look, I've had lots of physical fights with numerous intoxicated relatives in my own family, so I know how it is. I'd knocked out both of my parents by the time I was 14. Nobody knows better than I do that sh*t happens. And to a point, I empathize.

BUT, it doesn't matter what the story is, Word Of Law says that certain things aren't allowed. If I were applying for a job at McDonalds, and it somehow came out that "Oh, gee... so your mother tried to hit you in the head with a frying pan, so you backhanded her in self-defense" or one of any number of other horror stories I lived through, guess what? It doesn't matter if I was technically in the right, I don't get the job. And if it becomes common knowledge then I don't get any job ever again, anywhere. Right or Wrong, Fair or Unfair, that's how it works.

Thus, if we want to be consistent in our application of what "The Rules" are, a guy who hits women shouldn't be "rewarded" with $20 million acting roles and lots of fawning publicity about what a nice guy he is. Even if he was "technically right" to do so.

I've never said Amber didn't have it coming. She probably did. But that's not supposed to matter.

Frankly, the fact that he was even with her to begin with shows what an idiot he is. He was previously in a much more stable relationship, which he walked away from because Amber was younger, hotter, liked the same drugs and fueled his midlife crisis. Which is basically what happened with my own Dad when he left his wife and kids to be with my Mom, which I can attest ALSO worked out very poorly for everyone involved. Nobody forced Johnny Depp into the relationship, he made a bad choice by putting sex and drugs over his family and other values. When you do that, historically things turn out poorly. Thus, I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. Any idiot could see that it wasn't going to end well, but he made his bed and now he has to lie in it. When you think with your dick, you get burned. "Oops."

"Never stick your dick in Crazy." That's a Day One. Like I said, I can empathize to a point, but I can't sympathize. He's a proven moron for a LOT more reasons than his relationship with Amber Heard, and it's al become a matter of public record. Whether it's who he f*cks, who he's friends with, or how he spends his money, Johnny Depp is basically "Bad Decisions: The Guy".

That's how he chooses to live. He's a grown man, he's responsible for his own choices as well as the fallout from those choices. Let's not make excuses for the provably stupid just because they happen to be pretty and famous.

[Roseangelo]

I'm kinda angry about this, since it's pretty well documented that Depp is innocent. But at the same time, it's an easy out of a very meh franchise for Depp, so... ehh. Maybe he is legit ok with this. I just wish it weren't framed as happening because he's an abuser, because he's not.

[Leo656]

"Innocent" as in, "He definitely didn't hit her"? Or "innocent" as in, "If he did she deserved it"?

Just curious. Because all we can do is assume in either case.

My wife's outspoken and unapologetic position is, she wants to f*ck him, so even if all allegations against him are true then it's Perfectly Fine as far as she's concerned. And to be completely blunt, that's the position I see MOST women taking. It's just like R. Kelly, and all those women who come right out and say "I don't care if he DID pee on that little girl," etc. etc.

I just find it all very interesting. The generally-accepted narrative until this specific situation happened was, "All women who claim domestic abuse should be given the benefit of the doubt." But now, it seems that there is an unspoken addendum which states, "UNLESS the guy accused is super-cute, in which case, nah, man, he couldn't have done it. And if he did, Oh Well."

Frankly, I'm with all the domestic violence organizations who are aghast at how quick all the women online are to assume innocence in his case. Again, even if she totally had it coming, he probably laid hands on her and thus he should be treated no differently than any other human being in such a situation. EVERY other man who's ever been accused of either domestic violence or even sexual abuse, historically, women are given the benefit of the doubt. But it seems to ME, that has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of the men accused look more like Harvey Weinstein and less like Johnny Depp.

I just don't think pouty lips should excuse bad behavior. But that seems to be what's going on. Just calling it like I see it. Because again, TOO many women online have said, and I'll paraphrase, "I don't care if he DID hit her, he gets me moist so all's forgiven."

And the world simply shouldn't work that way.

[Roseangelo]

"Innocent" as in, "He definitely didn't hit her"? Or "innocent" as in, "If he did she deserved it"?

As in she was the one abusing him.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/02/amber-heard-admits-hitting-johnny-depp-in-leaked-audio-recording/

[Leo656]

And we have concrete proof that he never put a paw on her, even in retaliation?

Nah, I don't buy it.

I'm not interested in whether or not she did, we know she did. That's not a matter of dispute, nor am I saying she's in any way the "good guy" in the situation.

But I do think - having been in and witnessed the same exact type of scenario play out countless times in my lifetime with dozens of different people involved, MOST of whom were also intoxicated as Depp and Amber were - that the idea that he just stood there and took it is beyond naive.

I'm also not saying that if he did hit her, she didn't have it coming. Honestly, I don't really care if he did, I don't feel bad for her at all, she's clearly a junkie and a scumbag. What I'm saying is, so is he and I think it's crazy that people are painting him as this innocent gentle flower who was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's not what happened.

There's NO way that Johnny Depp, who's chronically drunk and at least half the time coked out of his gourd - again, these are facts about his lifestyle, not suppositions - stood still with his hands in his pockets and let anyone play Whack-A-Mole on him. He definitely, definitely, definitely hit her back. To think otherwise is way past naive. And again, f*cking good for him if he did, I'm not in her corner on this. However, I also don't outright dismiss the idea that he could have hit her first and THEN she took the 87 free shots. By his own admission, Depp is a huge, HUGE fan of cocaine and alcohol, BOTH of which can make an otherwise "reasonable" person turn incredibly violent. MOST of the real-life fights I've been in were against people who were drunk, coked out of their mind, or both at the same time. And they were usually as docile and gentle in "normal" life as Depp supposedly is. BUT, all that goes out the window when alcohol and cocaine are involved, and in this case, we know for a fact they were both f*cked up.

I'm just saying, it blows my mind that people aren't treating this situation realistically, and that MOST of the reasoning behind it is that either "The guy just seems really charming" or "He makes my 'giney tickle". That's ridiculous. He might be a "nice guy", but he's also a drunk, a pill-popper, and a cokehead. Many things can be true at once, and we KNOW those things are true. And if you ever lived with half as many of those types of people as I've been forced to in my life, you know what can and does happen.

Yes, she hit him. BUT, he hit her, too. And either that's Okay or Not Okay. And if it's Okay, then that opens up a whole box of uncomfortable conversations. Like Andrew hinted at in the Sean Connery thread, Connery flat-out said numerous times that SOMEtimes, it's okay to hit a woman. Most people disagree, at least out loud. But what's the standard? Where's the line, is what I'm asking. Do we just pick sides based on who we like more? Because that's honestly what's going on here with at least SOME of the people who comment on the situation, and it makes me uncomfortable.

Frankly, in the interest of full disclosure, I've always agreed with Connery, and this situation seems like a case in point. I'm not mad at Johnny Depp if he hit Amber Heard, I'm more mad at the idea that there's selective enforcement of standards based on whether we're a fan of a person or not. I know that's the reality we live in, but it seems unseemly, to me.

[Roseangelo]

Obviously everything about that relationship was a mess. But I don't think he deserves to be "cancelled" and/or fired because of that.

[Leo656]

Well, no, I mean I don't really think anyone should be. I mean if John Lennon still gets so much play on the radio in spite of the fact that he too was a proven scumbag who merely happened to write a few pretty songs, then sure, anybody should be allowed to have a career. People screw up, I don't necessarily think that they need to go in the ground over it.

I just don't generally like selective enforcement or double standards. And anyone in WB's position would put themselves in a very bad spot by supporting Depp at the present time. I mean, SOME women are still very much of the belief that he hit her and are willing to make noise and/or boycott his films, even if she "had it coming".

WB as a billion-dollar company are wise to distance themselves from that sort of heat.

He'll survive. He'll absolutely get work again eventually, but I do think WB is doing the smartest thing they could possibly do in light of the circumstances and the allegations. I mean, suppose a new video "leaks" of Depp throwing her into a wall, after all of this. If they stood by him, and then that came out, they'd all look like assholes.

Similar things are going on in the wrestling business at present. Lots and lots of guys (mostly on the indies) getting blacklisted because of "alleged" abuse, either physical or sexual. Very little actual "evidence" involved outside of text messages - which can of course be faked - and no criminal charges filed in just about every case, BUT, the promotions involved still terminate their relationship with the guys accused at their discretion 99.9% of the time. Same thing. "We can't take the chance, and we don't need the heat. if we promote this person, and he DID hit or rape that girl, then we look like scumbags and it affects our business."

It's easier to just err on the side of caution and replace the problem-case. Fair or unfair... it's just plain sensible. Whether it's Joey Ryan or Johnny Depp, or Johnny Smithapple working for Domino's Pizza... if your behavior reflects poorly on the company paying you, then they're within their rights to cut ties with you at their discretion.

In ALL cases, the men affected by this sort of thing would do better to make better life choices. Specifically insofar as who they dip their wick into. It seems like MOST of these stories start with a guy f*cking some chick who's clearly out of her mind, and the rest just escalates from there. Well, then don't do that. Simple.

I mean, sure, Amber Heard is pretty hot. But right now you can bet your ass Depp wishes he'd thought with his head and not his dick when he met her. "Oops." Well, that's all on him. His choices, his decisions... his penance.

All Life Is About Choices.

[AquaParade]

While there is a lot of sympathy "wasted" on Depp in a situation like this, it still seems rather apparent that he is relatively innocent. At least to the point where that piece by The Sun seems full of lies and slander. When the matter becomes this public, it seems like it'd be in the best interest of everyone if justice was served.

It's very hard to ignore the fact that she has been in trouble for domestic violence in the past with previous partners, while all of Depp's have nothing but wonderful things to say about him. That in itself isn't proof, but it's one of the stronger elements of the case.

And, Leo, funny enough, there is tons of evidence that point to Amber's bruises and injuries being faked. Several pictures and accounts of Amber the next day, with the bruises and scrapes gone, seemingly overnight. I only point that out bc I believe you asked, possibly rhetorically. So, that's definitely fishy as hell.

But I have to question my own stance now, because I am somewhat shocked that Depp lost the case. Perhaps there is an insane twist to this story that would change my perspective, but I don't know. I also have to consider that the judge failed.

[Shark_Blade]

Yet Amber Heard is kept by WB for Aquaman 2. Such injustice.

This franchise is finished tbh.

[Galactus]

This is a difficult one for me. I hate to give a rag like The Sun and Dan Wootan a win but Leo has it 100% nailed on. Amber Heard was not on trial here and all that had to be proved was that Johnny Depp hit her. Whether it was in self defence or retaliation doesn't matter - that is all it takes for The Sun to be justified calling him a "wife beater". The judge felt there was sufficient evidence to prove he did it at least 12 times.

Pursuing this trial was a mistake. Whereas before the tag of wife beater was implied now it's official. Even putting this aside I would say by he's needlessly exposed himself as a deeply unpleasant individual at least in this relationship. That text message to Paul Bettany alone would end most people's careers.

I don't think Amber Heard has got off Scot free either. She too has been exposed as hugely flawed person even if she may not have literally **** the bed and it looks almost certain she was the instigator of violence more than once. I'm guessing her career will suffer too.

I'm sure Depp will be fine. It seems the majority of the public are on his side and I'm sure studios will take that into consideration but his days as a family friendly box office draw are over which may be for the best. I saw Once Upon a Time in Mexico on TV a few weeks ago and completely forgot he was capable of roles that weren't all look how kooky I am and I wear funny hats.

[AquaParade]

At the least, it's just bizarre that WB is holding on to Amber Heard, while dropping TV stars on the CW or whatever it is for old tweets.

[Galactus]

Well she is technically the victim. However she has come out of this very badly and I imagine she'll be quietly dropped from Aquaman. There was already talk that Mera will go off and he'll have a new female partner. I'm not super familiar with the Aquaman mythos to know who that will be but I think that is likely.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

At the least, it's just bizarre that WB is holding on to Amber Heard, while dropping TV stars on the CW or whatever it is for old tweets.

At this point, I'm assuming the reason Amber has so far been untouchable is that she's smoking hot. And maybe banging somebody.

[AquaParade]

I'm starting to think she is just really good at imposing her will on the universe. She is...powerful.

[Leo656]

Well, to be fair... "Aquaman 2" isn't going to come out anyway. So again, it's a non-issue. We haven't heard one word about it in years. All we "know" is that as of now, that IF it happens she's ostensibly still attached to it. By the time it actually comes out even f*cking Mamoa won't still be attached to it. :lol: People shouldn't get so hung up on the wrong things.

Re: Amber's bruises - I can believe any number of things. I can believe - hypothetically - that she perhaps, maybe/possibly, put on some phony make-up in an attempt to garner sympathy. Alright.

BUT, I can also speak to my own experience from wrestling of taking hard shots to the face, having a nasty bruise and/or swelling, and having it "magically" gone in a day or two. I'm not a magician, I'm just a fast healer. It's not out of the realm that others are as well.

I can also entertain the notion that if she had real bruises, once the initial evidentiary photos were taken she perhaps took to applying make-up to cover them when she went out. My sister and several other abuse victims in my family would do so in the days following an "incident". You typically don't go around LOOKING like someone who gets punched on in public, it's not something most people are proud of.

I can believe any of those hypothetical scenarios.

What I CAN'T believe is that she severed this guy's finger in the midst of thrashing him, and that he didn't hit her even once. NOT even ONCE. He'd have to be f*cking Gandhi. And he's not.

The debate wasn't whether he hit her first, or more times, or harder, or whether or not she had it coming. Not any of that. It was simply, "DID he commit an act of domestic violence against his then-wife?" Magic 8-Ball says, "All Signs Point To Yes."

To me, this was all over and done when the sh*t hit the fan years ago, and they BOTH signed affidavits at that time acknowledging that NEITHER of them lied about any of what had been alleged. Well, back then she "alleged" that he'd hit her. And he signed papers saying, essentially, that she did NOT lie. In this case, they made SURE that he read and signed those papers with his own hand, based on his track record of never reading anything and letting his idiot sister or some other hangers-on fake his signature.

He read and signed those papers himself. "No allegations were false on either side." He read it. He signed his name to it. That's all there is to it, isn't it? It SHOULD be.

I get that he was pissed off that she didn't quietly slink away like he hoped she would. I get that. But either he lied THEN or he's lying NOW.

He stuck his dick in crazy and paid the price for it. They never should have been together. They're both rotten human beings. She's a nut and he's a drug addict (she is too, I'm just saying).

It was never gonna end well. When two people get together for NO reason other than sex and cocaine, mathematically it CANNOT end well.

People need to really learn and apply this. They can't get away with thinking they're smarter than everyone else and "THIS time it'll work. THIS relationship based solely on mutual sex and drug habits will be stable and long-lasting."

The ONLY sane response to any of this is, "Jesus, f*ck both of these twats."

[AquaParade]

What's up with Aquaman 2? Has it really been years already since the first? You'd think that'd be a high priority film for them. Obviously covid changes everything, but I have to imagine they will still keep Jason Mamoa attached and start filming asap.

[Sumac]

I prefer not to take sides in such conflicts, but this time I will be on the side of Depp.

[Leo656]

What's up with Aquaman 2? Has it really been years already since the first? You'd think that'd be a high priority film for them. Obviously covid changes everything, but I have to imagine they will still keep Jason Mamoa attached and start filming asap.

I imagine that it's a combination of things. For one, the "WB doesn't even know what to do with DC unless it's Batman and Wonder Woman" factor. "Aquaman" was a total fluke, don't forget; he was the "joke" character of the Justice League who was given a solo film as a courtesy, MOSTLY because of all the thirsty female Game of Thrones fans. But it was never expected to be a huge hit and spawn its own franchise. Its success took them by surprise. Consider that the very first thing they said out loud about more Aquaman-related films was NOT even "Aquaman 2", it was a spin-off about those sea monster things. That tells us a lot. "Aquaman 2? Uhhhhhhh.... suuuuure... I mean, I guess we can do that..." But they had no PLANS or even expectations to do a sequel until the first made a billion.

Secondly, any film with a lot of water-based shenanigans is a very costly risk at the best of times, and these are not the best of times by any stretch. "Aquaman 2" might be at least five years away from Right Now, depending on how COVID plays out. There's just no way to make that movie on the cheap without looking like a video game, and people bitch when you do that.

You would THINK that it's as simple as, "Well, the first made a billion dollars, let's crank out another one!" But things are very rarely that simple. For one thing, WB would have to be able to predict success and plan accordingly. They've proven incapable (and/or incompetent) at doing that.

I mean, it's "only" been two years since the first movie came out, but it's been suspiciously quiet on the Aquaman front for a very, very long time, all things considered. I have to believe that they were trying to plan something but that it didn't get very far for a number of reasons.

Frankly, I care more that Amber Heard made a good Mera if we wanna talk about Aquaman, and care less that she's a jizz rag. BUT, I have a feeling that if/when the movie does come out, she'll be "too old" and they can conveniently recast her anyway. I just think it's silly that people are pulling the "OMG Depp gets kicked off of Fantastic Beasts but Amber still gets to do Aquaman 2 WTF" stuff. Just wait. Odds are 50/50 they even do the movie within the next couple of years, and they probably will get rid of her between now and then anyway for some reason or other. Do I want that? Not especially. But c'mon, give it a rest, y'know? As of now there IS no "Aquaman 2" so it's a dumb thing to be pissy about.

I prefer not to take sides in such conflicts, but this time I will be on the side of Depp.

I will be exactly like all the "Johnny Is Innocent" females on social media, and say that I "side" with Amber Heard based solely on the fact that I want to have sex with her.

The difference between me and Those People is that I'm honest about it. :lol:

But nah seriously people shouldn't even be taking sides. Two junkies had a slap fight. Who cares?

To be completely blunt, for all I care they could have grabbed each other in a headlock, tumbled down a flight of stairs and BOTH wiped the f*ck out permanent. And I wouldn't blink, in fact I'd probably laugh. Idiots such as these aren't worth your sympathy, your concern, or your time.

They're entertainers. Like most entertainers, they happen to be pieces of sh*t behind closed doors. What a tragedy, I'm shocked.

Too many people have a celebrity fetish and it simply isn't healthy.

[raph27]

Weird that they would take this long to act on it, if the reason he was let go was all the business with Heard. That's been public news for a good while, hasn't it? Or did something new develop?

Honestly, the first thing I thought when I saw the headlines was "they're still making those movies?" I defended the first one, I know that wasn't received super well but I really did enjoy it. Finally got around to watching the second during lockdown and it was dreadful. And I even watched the "extended cut", which was supposed to be an improvement. Only redeeming factor was Jude Law as middle-age Dumbledore, and he barely did anything. I'm really curious to see how the third one fares financially once it releases. I for sure won't be watching it.

[Shark_Blade]

The fools are reaping what they sow.

Despite ending up only filming 1 scene for ‘FANTASTIC BEASTS 3’, Johnny Depp will receive a 8-figure payday from Warner Bros due to his contract.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/behind-warner-bros-decision-to-sever-ties-with-johnny-depp#click=https://t.co/Cms0Om9yYg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The fools are reaping what they sow.

Despite ending up only filming 1 scene for ‘FANTASTIC BEASTS 3’, Johnny Depp will receive a 8-figure payday from Warner Bros due to his contract.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/behind-warner-bros-decision-to-sever-ties-with-johnny-depp#click=https://t.co/Cms0Om9yYg

So fvcking stupid. :tlol:

[Leo656]

Must be f*cking nice.

Lord knows that when a guy goes around bragging to anyone who'll listen that he spends all his money on drugs, booze, and shooting his dead friends out of cannons, the logical thing to do is give them a lot MORE money instead of slathering them in grease and setting them on fire for the good of all humanity.

I once had a boss turn me down for a $1/hour raise about 15 years ago, with his logic being "I kinda have a feeling you're just gonna spend it on comic books." He might've had a case. I'm just sayin'.

The world is SUCH an amazing and awesome place. I wish that I myself and many others could fail incredibly high upwards in life by putting on guyliner and sucking Marilyn Manson's dick in between rounds of playing make-believe at Tim Burton's house.

[ranger_scout]

They might have already found Depp's replacement.

Mads Mikkelsen In Talks To Replace Johnny Depp In ‘Fantastic Beasts’ (https://deadline.com/2020/11/mads-mikkelsen-johnny-depp-replacement-fantastic-beasts-harry-potter-in-talks-1234612532/)

[Shark_Blade]

A trainwreck.

Colin Farrell is likely unavailable to return as Grindelwald in 'Fantastic Beasts 3' due to his filming schedule for 'The Batman'

http://bit.ly/3lhrZtq

[ranger_scout]

Depp's replacement has been confirmed.

Mads Mikkelsen Confirms Replacing Johnny Depp in Fantastic Beasts 3: "These Are Sad Circumstances" (https://comicbook.com/movies/news/fantastic-beasts-mads-mikkelsen-johnny-depp-grindelwald/)

[ZariusTwo]

FB 3 is titled "The Secrets of Dumbledore" and will be released in April

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/fantastic-beasts-3-secrets-dumbledore-release-date-1235018522/

[Sumac]

We know A secret of Dumbledore!
:lol:

[Andrew NDB]

Oh no... don't tell me this is going to be J.K. Rowling's apology to the LGBTQ community.

Like, "Look! Lots of gay stuff in this one! I'm really supportive, see?"

[ranger_scout]

Here is the trailer for The Secrets of Dumbledore.

DOtM222nMOU

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like the big secrets is gay drama between Dumbedore and Grindelwald:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/dumbledore-cuts-dialogue-for-china/

[neatoman]

Not quite, I have seen the movie and he doesn't keep his relationship with Grindelwald a secret exactly, he talks about it in private but doesn't seem to make much of an effort to keep it hidden.

To be honest I'm not entirely sure what the secrets are. It could be that he keeps his plans secret from the other characters in order to make the future hard to predict.
It could also be that Aberforth Dumbledore, his brother, is the father of Credence.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/fantastic-beasts-3-fires-johnny-depp-adds-trump-allegory-rcna24626?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

Is this true? The movie makes Grindelwald into a Trump allegory? This again, really?

[Sumac]

Talking about "living rent free in a head"...

[Leo656]

Literally all I know about anything Harry Potter related is that Emma Watson grew up to be quite a dish, and J.K. is a chesty ol' broad. :lol: I'll probably never read a single one of her books but I'd motorboat the hell outta them titties, that much I know. :tgrin:

[Andrew NDB]

Ouch... after a whole month Fantastic Beasts 3 only made 87 million domestic, 365 total internationally... against a 200 million dollar budget. This one landed in the red for sure. Compare this to the last one, which also had a 200 million dollar budget but made 159 domestically and 648 internationally.

No way they make a part 4 now, financiers would be fools to throw money at one. Unless they cut the budget in half.

What's up with Aquaman 2? Has it really been years already since the first? You'd think that'd be a high priority film for them. Obviously covid changes everything, but I have to imagine they will still keep Jason Mamoa attached and start filming asap.

lol... and this post was 2 years ago. And the movie still isn't coming out for almost a solid year. Imagine, you could be in the 8th grade when you saw Aquaman 1 in the theaters, then go through all 4 years of high school and a whole year of college by the time Aquaman 2 comes out. And this is assuming they don't delay it again.

wtf?

[superstaff]

Meh.

I liked the first Fantastic Beasts, and was a solid movie, in my opinion. Loved Newt, Jacob, Tina, the beasts, the Credence plotline, etc.

FB2 was awful, easily the worst Wizarding World movie. A huge blemish on an otherwise entertaining fantasy franchise. Due to how bad FB2 was, I stopped caring about the Fantastic Beasts movies. I didn't watch this yet, though I read spoilers, and...I feel like it wrapped almost everything up nicely, and could/should serve as the finale. I don't even know where they could go from here anyhow based on what spoilers I read, it just seems done.

I think they should just leave the Wizarding World alone, movie-wise. Wait a few years. Do something new, maybe a sequel series, or another spin-off. .......But this is Warner Bros we're talking about. Expect a Fantastic Beasts 4 starring Jason Momoa, Gal Gadot, LeBron James, and Keanu Reeves.

Oh, and on the topic of Depp and Herd's drama, I agree with you, Leo. Screw them both, and I am also not surprised that a marriage between two dysfunctional (celebrity) druggies is a sh*tshow. Whenever people gossip about the current trial, I just roll my eyes, and go back to doing something more productive.

[Andrew NDB]

The plan was for 5 of these things. No way they make it to a 4th. This property as a movie franchise will be dormant until they do a sequel trilogy with Harry and the other kids as adults. And no, that may not necessarily be an adaptation of the Cursed Child play.

[superstaff]

No way they make it to a 4th.

I dunno, I think they're working on drafting up a 3 picture deal for LeBron as I type this comment. :lol: