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[AlZarkovski]

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I found a trailer in the ultra-HD and made a screenshot. Look! It's Turtles/Kappa and Utrom???

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/ee_zps9de60216.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/ee_zps9de60216.jpg.html)
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/kappa_zps9c85c9ec.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/kappa_zps9c85c9ec.jpg.html)

[electric_sheep]

I found a trailer in the ultra-HD and made a screenshot. Look! It's Turtles/Kappa and Utrom???

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/ee_zps9de60216.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/ee_zps9de60216.jpg.html)
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/kappa_zps9c85c9ec.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/kappa_zps9c85c9ec.jpg.html)

Holly ****, how did i not see that?
My theory that creatures from dimension X visited the earth in the past and and that Shredder will be looking for a way to open the portal to it is correct. http://s24.postimg.org/4sma04cb8/gvu.jpg

[Powder]

Wow, that actually does look like an Utrom. Huh...

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

It's either an Utrom, or some random octopus out on a battlefield. Though... that wouldn't make sense, so hey, maybe it IS an Utrom!

[The Cheese Phone]

I've really got this sinking feeling that Shredder will be an utrom. His voice in the trailer is just too robotic and monotone.

[electric_sheep]

Anyone else wondering what's that behind giant guy? (Let's just call him Krang)
That can't be the Technodrome, could it? and what's on those flags behind him?

[AlZarkovski]

I'm sure it's Krang (Iron Demon):
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/krang_zps2c1c2393.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/krang_zps2c1c2393.jpg.html)

[Candy Kappa]

A Utrom veiling a sword?

Can he be the main character and we just ditch the Botox lips dudes. That would have been great.

[Tazi]

I wonder if your opinion will change on the "white shredder" if it turns out that he is an utrom... ?

[electric_sheep]

A Utrom veiling a sword?

Can he be the main character and we just ditch the Botox lips dudes. That would have been great.

http://4thletter.net/wp-content/uploads//tmntmskb.jpg
throw a dinosaur in and i am sold.

[Blossombrooks]

Well spotted! Y'know I actually don't hate the idea of Utroms being involved, lets say Shredder is an Utrom like in 2k3, Ch'rell was one evil little bugger, could be entertaining??

I can't decide what's on the flags, if its the 'drome what are the lines for? Looks like a flux capacitor...

[Anton Chigurh]

Sweet find, unless its a squid billy...

[Candy Kappa]

I wonder if your opinion will change on the "white shredder" if it turns out that he is an utrom... ?

Doesn't make it any less unnecessary, and I'd recon the twist would have been better if Shredder was first presented as Oroku Saki, like in 4Kids. Now that we have Eric Sachs we're already posing lots of wacky theorizes to explain the idiocy, with most are he is either possessed or a android suit for Krang, a Kraag or an Utrom.

[MCRx]

Another shot


http://i.imgur.com/ZC33awg.png

[Shell-C]

Another shot


http://i.imgur.com/ZC33awg.png

It looks like that Utrom has a eyepatch! :o *Must be important somehow, I guess*
Hope we actually see them in the movie and not just hanging on the wall.

[chrisdude]

Sweet! I wanna see Dimension X bad.

[NinjaPug]

Wow. How did we not notice that before? Good find.

Very interesting as to what it means. This doesn't help my concerns about the Alien Warrior origin from Blue Door though.

[NYShell]

Oh damn. Good find. It might be.

I hope there are no Utroms. I've always wanted them to stick close to the original comics but I never liked the Sci Fi element in the movies. It should be more grounded like the first movie.

[NYShell]

And hopefully there is no Dimension X or Krang. Or Bebop and Rocksteady

[Peanut]

Stuff like this...actually makes me excited. If they use this movie to get way into the weird sci-fi Turtles stuff I'll be pretty happy!

[Huzzah]

We've had a Turtles movie grounded in realism, I think the movie verse needs to embrace some of the sci-fi elements to give something more than Turtles, Shredder and Foot. I would love to see some Utroms or Kraang or Krang...or any variation thereof. Personally I want to see a Triceraton on the big screen...

Honestly there is alot more Sci-Fi in the comics than gritty realism at this point. I say embrace the Sci-Fi, the Mysticism, the Supernatural...not to the point of Justice Force or any other super-hero teams, but to the point that some of these things do exist, and as such ground them in some form of arguable "realism."

Why can't aliens exist without making the movie completely standard science fiction fare? So bring in the Utroms, heck, bring in Leatherhead...don't go Fred Wolf of Nick Turtles overboard with Mutants, but what's the hurt in expanding the Universe to something more than Frank Miller inspired Turtles?

Oh yeah, and definitely a Triceraton, because Triceratons are cool...

[NYShell]

We've had a Turtles movie grounded in realism, I think the movie verse needs to embrace some of the sci-fi elements to give something more than Turtles, Shredder and Foot. I would love to see some Utroms or Kraang or Krang...or any variation thereof. Personally I want to see a Triceraton on the big screen...

Honestly there is alot more Sci-Fi in the comics than gritty realism at this point. I say embrace the Sci-Fi, the Mysticism, the Supernatural...not to the point of Justice Force or any other super-hero teams, but to the point that some of these things do exist, and as such ground them in some form of arguable "realism."

Why can't aliens exist without making the movie completely standard science fiction fare? So bring in the Utroms, heck, bring in Leatherhead...don't go Fred Wolf of Nick Turtles overboard with Mutants, but what's the hurt in expanding the Universe to something more than Frank Miller inspired Turtles?

Oh yeah, and definitely a Triceraton, because Triceratons are cool...

Eh. We'll just have to wait and see what new info we're given.

[NinjaPug]

I agree. I want a Turtles in Space arc on the big screen.

I've always loved the TCRI origin and what it led to. I hated the half-assed attempt at explaining their origins in SotO. TGRI (still hate the name change) was a joke.

Bring on the Utroms.

[poprob]

Excellent find! Can't believe I missed that.

Totally convinced Sachs is an Utrom and Saki will be resurrected by Karai (who has no idea how vile her ancestor is) after she and the foot break into Sach's TGRI facility and steal the ooze or whatever is needed to bring him back. I can only imagine that is where the "snow chase" parts of the film will come from - the Foot taking ooze to a remote location (where Saki's body is?) We already know that Lego set with the tanker has Karai and ooze with it.

So many ways the movie can go, hopefully it will only set up a great future for the films and a strong live action franchise.

[xChri5x]

Maybe we'll end up with Triceratons in one of the sequels?! This could become a really awesome movie series.

[Raph]

Yup I already noticed the Turtle kappa warriors and the utroms as well on the wallscroll. A buddy of mine owns that scroll, he's just not allowed to show it yet.

But those are definitly Utroms on it. And since, as seen in the trailer, it's TCRI, and not TGRI, we'll be getting Utroms for sure!

[Bob]

There’s clearly much more to the Turtle’s and Shredder’s origin in the film.

[MothraLeo]

That is cool! And they definitely look like Utroms, not Kraang.

I think this is some epic foreshadowing. I don't think we will see this in this movie. That seems more like something that will bea payoff in the sequel.

Don't forget, it was mentioned in an interview that they are signed on for multiple movies. ..

[MrTMNT2012]

Hey....that's actually pretty damn cool!

We really can't plot out the whole movie just from a 90-second teaser but it looks more intriguing than expected.

[BODYCOUNT]

man Utroms on the big screen!!! Sweet!!!

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Wow, good find, eagle eye! I welcome the Utroms with open arms but the fact that there are turtle-like warriors in the picture makes me VERY nervous about the whole turtle species from another dimension from the old script. Oy!

[xChri5x]

Wow, good find, eagle eye! I welcome the Utroms with open arms but the fact that there are turtle-like warriors in the picture makes me VERY nervous about the whole turtle species from another dimension from the old script. Oy!


I doubt its a species. There are only 4 Turtle warriors in the image.

http://i.imgur.com/Q7Pk8Qe.png

[The Shelf]

I've gotta say, the more I learn about this movie, the more I start to like it. I had my misgivings just like most people around here, but there is some good potential here. Please don't screw this up, Bay...

[Tora]

I'm sure it's Krang (Iron Demon):
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/krang_zps2c1c2393.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/krang_zps2c1c2393.jpg.html)

Krang's early Android body?

[CyberCubed]

I also suspect its Krang himself, rather than the Utroms.

[TrickOrTreater]

I wish that one guy would get his friend to post high res pictures of each section of the scroll.

Might clear up a lot of things regarding this thing.

Or even detailed descriptions of each section. Like what are those flying things on the right side.

What do the little guys fighting against/with the Turtle Warriors look like clearly?

Any details that might lead us to believe that the big samurai in the center is clearly Krang's robot body?

Just a couple high res, well-lit pictures of each section would be awesome.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I've always loved the TCRI origin and what it led to. I hated the half-assed attempt at explaining their origins in SotO. TGRI (still hate the name change) was a joke.

Yeh. That's what was supposed to be the Secret of the Ooze, that it came from another planet than Earth. And it was written out. Scandal!

I like the idea of the ooze being of extraterrestrial orgin (as much as I hate the idea of the turtles being extraterrestrials).

[MastahShredder]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a connection to the Utrom/Kraang with the military - thus the science that’s being done ties into the Ooze’s extra-terrestrial origins. That also makes more sense for the ideological rift between Shredder & the Turtles and potentially the creation of additional mutants like Tokka, Rahzar, Bebop, & Rocksteady being used and controlled by the Foot.

[Tora]

I doubt its a species. There are only 4 Turtle warriors in the image.

http://i.imgur.com/Q7Pk8Qe.png


Is anyone reminded of the scrolls from TMNT 3 when they see this?

[1984TMNT]

We talked about this a few days ago in another thread....

[1984TMNT]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?p=1237312#post1237312

[MastahShredder]

I think it's starting to come together.


http://i.imgur.com/Z3zg9RW.png

http://www.primaryignition.com/wp-content/uploads/Captura-de-pantalla-2014-01-28-a-las-23.13.27.png



Pinkish, reddish eyes and skin.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/600_wide/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/alien-shredder.jpg

[TigerClaw]

I think it's starting to come together.


http://i.imgur.com/Z3zg9RW.png

http://www.primaryignition.com/wp-content/uploads/Captura-de-pantalla-2014-01-28-a-las-23.13.27.png



Pinkish, reddish eyes and skin.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/600_wide/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/alien-shredder.jpg
Yeah, Its gotta be Utrom Shredder.

[1984TMNT]

I think it's starting to come together.


http://i.imgur.com/Z3zg9RW.png

http://www.primaryignition.com/wp-content/uploads/Captura-de-pantalla-2014-01-28-a-las-23.13.27.png



Pinkish, reddish eyes and skin.

http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/600_wide/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/alien-shredder.jpg

Yeah, something about the eyes doesn't add up.... I hope to God shredder isn't a utrom though. His character is so much more interesting as Saki... Even though it seems like he isn't in this movie

[TigerClaw]

I'm suspecting that Eric Sachs is a Utron in disguised, and perhaps hes been around since Feudal Japan, Which explains that painting. in the Painting you see what appears to be Krang in that body.

[MastahShredder]

Yeah, Its gotta be Utrom Shredder.

I think it's one of three things.

1) Utrom
2) Mutation
3) He builds the suit with some crazy features that allows him to go toe-to-toe with the Turtles.

There is just no way Sachs throws on that suit and takes them on.

[TigerClaw]

I think it's one of three things.

1) Utrom
2) Mutation
3) He builds the suit with some crazy features that allows him to go toe-to-toe with the Turtles.

There is just no way Sachs throws on that suit and takes them on.
I bet there is some big reveal where Eric Sach's chest opens up to reveal a Utrom, He is then placed into the Shredder armor.

[MastahShredder]

I bet there is some big reveal where Eric Sach's chest opens up to reveal a Utrom, He is then placed into the Shredder armor.

I can see some sort of alien-ish ending where it sets up for the sequel.

I would much rather see Karai return to Japan, battered and bruised. Who does she report to...Oroku Saki.

[electric_sheep]

I doubt its a species. There are only 4 Turtle warriors in the image.

http://i.imgur.com/Q7Pk8Qe.png

4 turtle warriors? 4 ancient turtles warriors?

[TurtleTitan97]

4 turtle warriors? 4 ancient turtles warriors?

Maybe they're early mutants?

[electric_sheep]

Maybe they're early mutants?

If that's dimension x then those are Ancient turtle warriors, just like leaked script.

[kolaida]

Maybe they're early mutants?

Could be. Maybe they're ancient mutants the four current mutants are based off, but it took years to recreate that mutation. Maybe they were frozen for years and then brought back to life, maybe they were those ancient turtles and the mutation went whack and brought them back to being regular turtles (which tend to live a long time) and then they were re-mutated (but with little to no memory of the past), etc, etc. Who knows? It'll be interested to see where they go with it. Is kinda weird that turtles are on an ancient wallscroll, lol.

[Candy Kappa]

This tapestry might be the first thing in a very long time, that actually interests me about this movie.

I wanna see katana wielding Utroms fighting among kappa, tengu, rat men and Samurai. That would have been a balls-to-the-walls movie on its own.

[Welmanshire]

I wish that one guy would get his friend to post high res pictures of each section of the scroll.

Might clear up a lot of things regarding this thing.

Or even detailed descriptions of each section. Like what are those flying things on the right side.

What do the little guys fighting against/with the Turtle Warriors look like clearly?

Any details that might lead us to believe that the big samurai in the center is clearly Krang's robot body?

Just a couple high res, well-lit pictures of each section would be awesome.

I messaged the guy that owns it on another forum and he's under strict instructions not to post any hi res or detailed pictures of the prop until the films release, unfortunately.

[xChri5x]

If you look closely, they aren't the same:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/ee_zps9de60216.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/H7KgYvD.jpg?1

It looks like one has the Turtles removed. Also the banners are different.

[electric_sheep]

If you look closely, they aren't the same:

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/ee_zps9de60216.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/H7KgYvD.jpg?1

It looks like one has the Turtles removed. Also the banners are different.

And the flags are changed and utroms are removed...

[Candy Kappa]

The soldiers are also differently placed in the one in the trailer.

[MastahShredder]

http://i.imgur.com/DPSQKGO.jpg

Someone very big..sitting down. You can see the two feet. Also has armor on.

Interesting. Anyone know what the symbols on the flag mean or are they just made up for the film?

[Candy Kappa]

The flag are showing someone's Mon, a crest for their faction/family/school/restaurant.

[Eiko]

By the looks of it a lot of you guys are changing your minds now about the movie now that the Utroms could be or are appearing. Never much liked Shredder as an Utrom but oh well I am still looking forward to this movie.

[electric_sheep]

By the looks of it a lot of you guys are changing your minds now about the movie now that the Utroms could be or are appearing. Never much liked Shredder as an Utrom but oh well I am still looking forward to this movie.

Not really, if anything this proves that much of the Blue Door script is still in use. But it's fun to speculate...

[Sleepingseeker]

I'm sure it's Krang (Iron Demon):
http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af274/alzarkovski/krang_zps2c1c2393.jpg (http://s1015.photobucket.com/user/alzarkovski/media/krang_zps2c1c2393.jpg.html)

My first thought on the big guy in the middle was Krang!! :o

[TrickOrTreater]

Never much liked Shredder as an Utrom

Me neither.

[electric_sheep]

Me neither.

neither did i. Basically we never got the real shredder in that show...
Oroku Saki or gtfo...

[thebrownranger]

Good find. Although I much prefer a less sic-fi element in the turtles movie-verse. Not a big fan of the whole "ninjas in outer space" thing. I would like to keep it more grounded like the first film. Could be interesting still. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Powder]

Stuff like this...actually makes me excited. If they use this movie to get way into the weird sci-fi Turtles stuff I'll be pretty happy!

Ditto. There are elements I will never ever like but yet now I'm actually feeling some hype for what may turn up in this.

[TigerClaw]

Good find. Although I much prefer a less sic-fi element in the turtles movie-verse. Not a big fan of the whole "ninjas in outer space" thing. I would like to keep it more grounded like the first film. Could be interesting still. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I prefer the more Scifi stuff from TMNT, Which were in the Comics and so on.

[Anton Chigurh]

Good find. Although I much prefer a less sic-fi element in the turtles movie-verse. Not a big fan of the whole "ninjas in outer space" thing. I would like to keep it more grounded like the first film. Could be interesting still. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I agree with you and love a more grounded film, however since their trying to make a trilogy I believe the Sci-Fi aspect helps that a lot more in stretching it out and creating a larger universe.

[trikuza]

Since Fichtner is signed on for 3 films, I wonder how The Shredder/Utom Shredder will return in the next film.

Maybe he will build the technodrome, and bring in general tragg or something.

[Powder]

Since Fichtner is signed on for 3 films, I wonder how The Shredder/Utom Shredder will return in the next film.

Maybe he will build the technodrome, and bring in general tragg or something.

If he's not the "real" Shredder, and Oroku Saki exists in this version, I wonder how they'll utilize the Sachs character in the next two. I'd guess they might turn him into another character, like Nick does. Could be interesting if done right.

Like maybe he gets the snot beat out of him and is forced to live underground...

With the rats.

*inception horns*

[Anton Chigurh]

If he's not the "real" Shredder, and Oroku Saki exists in this version, I wonder how they'll utilize the Sachs character in the next two. I'd guess they might turn him into another character, like Nick does. Could be interesting if done right.

Like maybe he gets the snot beat out of him and is forced to live underground...

With the rats.

*inception horns*

OOOHHHHH snap, I think we've find you a job on the next film:D

[xChri5x]

If he's not the "real" Shredder, and Oroku Saki exists in this version, I wonder how they'll utilize the Sachs character in the next two. I'd guess they might turn him into another character, like Nick does. Could be interesting if done right.

Like maybe he gets the snot beat out of him and is forced to live underground...

With the rats.

*inception horns*

Fichtner would make a good Rat King. He looks kinda like one.

[trikuza]

if were gonna have rat king....might as well have leatherhead too

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

http://i.imgur.com/DPSQKGO.jpg

Someone very big..sitting down. You can see the two feet. Also has armor on.

Interesting. Anyone know what the symbols on the flag mean or are they just made up for the film?

Those definitely look like Utrom flags. You can make out their little eyes and tentacles.

[trikuza]

Those definitely look like Utrom flags. You can make out their little eyes and tentacles.

for a while i thought it was the logo on this building. but its different

[electric_sheep]

http://s7.postimg.org/wd56v4qu3/image.jpg
Those flags are completely different in the movie...

[xChri5x]

It looks like a flux capacitor. That must be how the turtles travel back in time to ancient Japan.

[electric_sheep]

It looks like a flux capacitor. That must be how the turtles travel back in time to ancient Japan.

YES! and that behind giant guy is Tehnodcrome with spider legs..

[NYShell]

I remember asking Kevin at the TMNT 2 movie screening recently if they might be going with the IDW route (obviously I knew he couldn't and wouldn't tell me everything), but he said they were going with a more traditional route from Mirage. That could mean Utroms, or the gritty stuff without the sic-fi elements.

[TigerClaw]

I remember asking Kevin at the TMNT 2 movie screening recently if they might be going with the IDW route (obviously I knew he couldn't and wouldn't tell me everything), but he said they were going with a more traditional route from Mirage. That could mean Utroms, or the gritty stuff without the sic-fi elements.
I hope for the former, I like the more scifi stuff, The gritty stuff has been done to death, And we need a TMNT movie that has the more scifi elements to it, Though TMNT 3 had time travel, which itself is scifi, But I like the stuff that's more otherworldly.

[NYShell]

I hope for the former, I like the more scifi stuff, The gritty stuff has been done to death, And we need a TMNT movie that has the more scifi elements to it, Though TMNT 3 had time travel, which itself is scifi, But I like the stuff that's more otherworldly.

We've already gotten the sci-fi stuff. TMNT 2007 was really sic-fi. The inter-dimensional portals, stone generals and monsters and.... *sigh* ugh. lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Kevin Munroe actually tried to do something for the franchise, but that movie was so cheesy and forgettable. Terrible story.

[TigerClaw]

We've already gotten the sci-fi stuff. TMNT 2007 was really sic-fi. The inter-dimensional portals, stone generals and monsters and.... *sigh* ugh. lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Kevin Munroe actually tried to do something for the franchise, but that movie was so cheesy and forgettable. Terrible story.
Which is why maybe this new live action movie will do things right, since its borrowing from other elements.

[MastahShredder]

Fichtner being signed on for two more films doesn't mean much if he isn't the true Shredder. I doubt he was paid enough for Paramount to "force" him in the sequel, that's probably not even been thought about yet.

[NinjaPug]

I gotta say...this talk of Utroms actually has me slightly excited for the movie with its possibilities. There hasn't been much regarding this movie that has done that so far.

[xChri5x]

http://i.imgur.com/LX1gxq3.jpg

[electric_sheep]

Everything's comin up Krang!
http://i.imgur.com/lj5GXGM.jpg?1

http://rockemsockem.wikispaces.com/file/view/EarlyCuyler.jpg/152483079/EarlyCuyler.jpg

[Warhorse]

We've had a Turtles movie grounded in realism, I think the movie verse needs to embrace some of the sci-fi elements to give something more than Turtles, Shredder and Foot. I would love to see some Utroms or Kraang or Krang...or any variation thereof. Personally I want to see a Triceraton on the big screen...

Honestly there is alot more Sci-Fi in the comics than gritty realism at this point. I say embrace the Sci-Fi, the Mysticism, the Supernatural...not to the point of Justice Force or any other super-hero teams, but to the point that some of these things do exist, and as such ground them in some form of arguable "realism."

Why can't aliens exist without making the movie completely standard science fiction fare? So bring in the Utroms, heck, bring in Leatherhead...don't go Fred Wolf of Nick Turtles overboard with Mutants, but what's the hurt in expanding the Universe to something more than Frank Miller inspired Turtles?

Oh yeah, and definitely a Triceraton, because Triceratons are cool...

:D Yes, and since ILM is doing the CGI, I can see these turning out pretty sweet.

[TigerClaw]

We've had a Turtles movie grounded in realism, I think the movie verse needs to embrace some of the sci-fi elements to give something more than Turtles, Shredder and Foot. I would love to see some Utroms or Kraang or Krang...or any variation thereof. Personally I want to see a Triceraton on the big screen...

Honestly there is alot more Sci-Fi in the comics than gritty realism at this point. I say embrace the Sci-Fi, the Mysticism, the Supernatural...not to the point of Justice Force or any other super-hero teams, but to the point that some of these things do exist, and as such ground them in some form of arguable "realism."

Why can't aliens exist without making the movie completely standard science fiction fare? So bring in the Utroms, heck, bring in Leatherhead...don't go Fred Wolf of Nick Turtles overboard with Mutants, but what's the hurt in expanding the Universe to something more than Frank Miller inspired Turtles?

Oh yeah, and definitely a Triceraton, because Triceratons are cool...
I would imagine we would see a Justice Force team show up in future sequels, If the Turtles become well known in this world, It could probably inspired other people to become superheroes, Like that one dude from the Nick series.

[Warhorse]

I agree with you and love a more grounded film, however since their trying to make a trilogy I believe the Sci-Fi aspect helps that a lot more in stretching it out and creating a larger universe.

Well, the alien aspect is probably the only thing that the movie verse has yet to tackle. So, why not?

[Huzzah]

I can deal with minimal mutants, aliens, spirits and such...I just really don't want to see this world's versions of superheroes...I never liked seeing them in any version of the series truthfully. Honestly the only time superheroes in the Turtle-verse never bothered me was in the Image run of the series...and that's a horse of a different color there.

@warhorse I know, right? Mo-capped, massive aliens with a Triceratops head courtesy of a major effects guru, beating the crap out of the Turtles could look freakin sweet. Plus, kids still dig dinosaurs...

[TigerClaw]

The fact to the matter is, I don't want more of the same, I wanna see something different, Which is why I think this film is going more towards scifi.

[Huzzah]

The fact to the matter is, I don't want more of the same, I wanna see something different, Which is why I think this film is going more towards scifi.

This is kind of my thoughts as well. If I want something more akin to the original Mirage run in a movie, I still have the original film. I mean the heavy sci-fi element from the comics has never been done on film, so why not go that direction.

Now, if we decide to veer into time-travel again...I want Renet, if she had been part of TMNT 3, I wouldn't have quite as much disdain for it...

[TigerClaw]

This is kind of my thoughts as well. If I want something more akin to the original Mirage run in a movie, I still have the original film. I mean the heavy sci-fi element from the comics has never been done on film, so why not go that direction.

Now, if we decide to veer into time-travel again...I want Renet, if she had been part of TMNT 3, I wouldn't have quite as much disdain for it...
I could see a TMNT sequel turning into sort of an alien invasion film when the Triceratons show up on earth.

[MastahShredder]

Here comes the dynamite.

"There are guys who become the Shredder"

"Eric Sachs...or Oroku Saki..so I've read".

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Skip to 1:13. It's old but now it makes sense.

[Dirty Blond]

http://www.listsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ancient-aliens-meme-19.jpg

[Raptor86]

With this find, I think this movie has more things to reveal than we expected...

I do not like very much all the sci-fi aspect in the TMNT universe, but they are a big part of the turtle myth, so it will be really a good thing to have a movie based on that!

[marcelangelo]

Here comes the dynamite.

"There are guys who become the Shredder"

"Eric Sachs...or Oroku Saki..so I've read".

a6ZAcyvHW_k

Skip to 1:13. It's old but now it makes sense.


thanks for sharing!...hmmm..really a lot of things to ponder about before we get to be exposed to new snippets from the actual film...
on topic, I would very much welcome the utroms in this film.I hope they would be portrayed like they were originally written in the eastman and laird books up to vol 4(which is where apart from the fourth or fifth issue of vol 1 you probably get the best view on them)...

your video makes me imagine THIS shredder to be very interested in the exploits of oroku saki, who once wore the mantle of the shredder and now this erich sachs is going to put it on...in my oppinion I think THIS is what he may talk about in the teaser when he says they had in mind to create heroes...I don't necessarily connect that sentence to the turtles at all.I mean it could be understood that way but I hope its deeper than that.he may be talking about their plans to establish the foot..or this paramilitary group, a special ops kinda operation who would not be 'bound' by the law..

hey guys, do you think we'll get a new trailer with cap II?or will they only be showing the teaser in theaters?
by the way, the turtles teaser has been on tv in the news in germany!everybody is hyped about the movie;)

[Powder]

If we do get the Utroms I imagine they'll be more in line with that of the 4kids series or IDW comics, depending on whether or not they're evil, I guess.

[MastahShredder]

By the sounds of it again..it seems like he doesn't even know what the hell is going on. Hopefully it's not too confusing for the audience. Whatever route they are going with this.

[Gokhan]

Anyone else wondering what's that behind giant guy? (Let's just call him Krang)
That can't be the Technodrome, could it? and what's on those flags behind him?

I'd say a mountain behind him

[Candy Kappa]

By the sounds of it again..it seems like he doesn't even know what the hell is going on. Hopefully it's not too confusing for the audience. Whatever route they are going with this.

To be fair, an actor don't really need to know what's going on with past versions or even what's beyond his part of the script, as long as he's an actor worth his salt, the character he plays will still look like he knows what is going on.

But, I don't think Ficthner was the best actor to interview if they wanted a clear picture on what to excpect compared to previous versions :lol:

[TigerClaw]

To be fair, an actor don't really need to know what's going on with past versions or even what's beyond his part of the script, as long as he's an actor worth his salt, the character he plays will still look like he knows what is going on.

But, I don't think Ficthner was the best actor to interview if they wanted a clear picture on what to excpect compared to previous versions :lol:
Actors are often under an NDA where they can't talk to reveal too much about the movie they been working on, They have to be careful what they say when being asked a question who they play.

[Raptor86]

Actors are often under an NDA where they can't talk to reveal too much about the movie they been working on, They have to be careful what they say when being asked a question who they play.

As the identity of the Shredder might be a potential plot twist, I guess it's ok to have all this fuzziness around the Fichtner role.

[Vulkanthekrusader]

Told you guys long time ago, they are going with Utrom Shredder, and he's been on this earth trying to bring in Dimension X.

[TigerClaw]

Told you guys long time ago, they are going with Utrom Shredder, and he's been on this earth trying to bring in Dimension X.
I have no problem if they go that route, I enjoyed the 4Kids series too.

[samxsteal]

I have no problem if they go that route, I enjoyed the 4Kids series too.

Agreed :tgrin:

[Huzzah]

And truthfully, the Utrom Shredder was by and large one of the most vile representations of the Shredder in Turtles mythos...which made it alot easier to accept that drastic change in origins.

[TigerClaw]

And truthfully, the Utrom Shredder was by and large one of the most vile representations of the Shredder in Turtles mythos...which made it alot easier to accept that drastic change in origins.
Plus that was one of the biggest surprises ever to happen on that series, Nobody saw it coming, And I liked that.

[Y2Bogus]

Plus that was one of the biggest surprises ever to happen on that series, Nobody saw it coming, And I liked that.

I wouldn't say nobody. I remember shortly after Shred lost his head, 2 or 3 of us on this forum (myself included) correctly predicted he'd be an utrom. I both liked and hated it. It made things interesting, but it cut into the backstory of Yoshi/Saki

[UGHShellshocked]

The Shredder Armor could be possessed with the spirit of Saki.

Like this guy was so evil that he had made a killswitch if he were to die his spirit would be imbued in the suit and he would poses whomever should put it on.

Sort of like Voldemort with the Horcruxes in Harry Potter.

[blindturtle02]

The Shredder Armor could be possessed with the spirit of Saki.

Like this guy was so evil that he had made a killswitch if he were to die his spirit would be imbued in the suit and he would poses whomever should put it on.

Sort of like Voldemort with the Horcruxes in Harry Potter.

Reminds me of Tengu Shredder too with the whole spirit living on thing. I'm ok with Shredder being an utrom if this is the way they're going in the movie. It'd be neat to see one on the big screen.

[sethmartin]

I'm starting to think that the teaser was definitely misleading and they are in fact sticking close to the Mirage comics. With a few changes of course.

This is a summary from one of the early comics on how the Turtles came to be:

"As Leo questions the aliens' motives, a lone Utrom walks in and explains how they came to Earth. Twenty years ago their ship had crash landed and killed one third of their crew. The survivors managed to integrate themselves into American society thanks to their high tech android disguises. The crew took jobs and quickly amassed enough wealth to buy the building that would become their headquarters. The Utroms salvaged what material they could in effort to build their Translocation Device - the Transmat. Unfortunately while working on their machine, the visitors had an accident 15 1/2 years earlier. The Utroms were bringing the last load of supplies from their crashed ship to their abode when a blind man walked in front of their truck, causing them to swerve out of the way. This violent action dislodged a canister filled with alien ooze and it flew into the street, striking a young man in the head. The container continued to bounce down the street until it hit an aquarium full of turtles that a boy was holding, shattering it. The turtles and the canister fell into the sewers, where the reptiles were bathed in the strange glowing ooze. It was then that Splinter found them... and the rest is history. The Utroms finally managed to contact their homeworld and were asked to remain in New York to continue observation of the planet."

My theory (Speculation only): Eric Sachs is an Utrom. He IS Oroku Saki. After Hamato Yoshi escapes to New York with Splinter, Saki becomes an Utrom and disguises himself as an American (Eric Sachs) and follows him and kills him. April's father witnesses this along with seeing the Utroms and flees. Splinter follows him. He hijacks the Utroms van which is full of the ooze and Splinter sneaks inside and they take off. As young April is walking home from the pet store with 4 baby turtles, her father pulls up to get her but they are stopped by the Utroms. They crash the van and the turtles and the ooze falls down into the sewer. The Utroms kill Aprils father so he won't talk and then they take off. Then Eric Sachs shows up and takes April home with him. With nowhere to go, Splinter heads down the sewer to find the baby turtles and he finds them in the ooze. Years later, April has become a news reporter and she has a fascination with TCRI. She wants to learn the truth about her father. Later on when she meets the turtles and Splinter, Splinter explains to her that Sachs killed Hamato Yoshi. She confronts Sachs and that's when he gives her a B.S. story that he and her father were trying to create heroes. He tries to brand the turtles as bad guys so that the city will believe him and his nonsense as he tries to take over the city.

Sorry for the super long post, but I find this speculation thing fun.

[Huzzah]

The Shredder Armor could be possessed with the spirit of Saki.

Like this guy was so evil that he had made a killswitch if he were to die his spirit would be imbued in the suit and he would poses whomever should put it on.

Sort of like Voldemort with the Horcruxes in Harry Potter.

I really like the idea of a demonic spirit, something that had remained dormant until Sachs re-awoke it, with this being the true Shredder. Though, if they go the Utrom Shredder route, I really won't be upset.

On a side note, I remember seeing Leonardo decapitate Shredder in the 4Kids cartoon, and thinking how awesome that was. It was an instant I decided that I like Leo, who was always my least favorite, and the fact he didn't know Shredder was in fact a robot exoskeleton was pretty sweet.

[electric_sheep]

I have inside scoop, and from inside i mean nowhere. At the end of movie Sach will be defeated but he will try to blow up the turtles with a grenade aka Mirage first issue, he will end up blowing up himself. After the credit scene you see Krang hollowing out Sachs's body with a pumpkin carving knife...

[Huzzah]

Because pumpkin carving knives are great for those surgeries.

[electric_sheep]

Because pumpkin carving knives are great for those surgeries.

It's the same thing, just cut a circle and pull the guts out...

[Batman_89_aficionado]

About Krang, I think that it would be weird if there was no merchandise with his image on it despite being in the movie.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

About Krang, I think that it would be weird if there was no merchandise with his image on it despite being in the movie.

There's no movie Avengers merchandise with Thanos, is there? (genuine question, I'm not sure)

If it's a twist at the end on not a plot point through the film, it could happen.

[mistajee33]

I dunno. All this Utrom/alien/Dimension X business could be cool, and as true as it is to the comics and previous incarnations of the Turtles… I can't really see it happening in the first film of the reboot, from a marketing perspective.

From my own experience talking to people who I believe are the target demographic (people in their 20s and 30s who grew up with the Turtles but aren't serious fans), everyone is most familiar with the more "realistic" version of the Turtles from the first film series (okay okay, so SOTO and TMNTIII aren't exactly realistic, but they certainly didn't involve aliens/Utroms, and intensive sci-fi elements). The OT had these things, but that series seems to just be a warm, fuzzy childhood blur to people of my generation.

I just think that if the Utroms etc. are a major element in this film, it will seem to come totally out of left field to the majority of moviegoers not as familiar with the TMNT as we are, and could freak people out and be damaging to the potential franchise. I could see certain things being set up for a sequel, but I don't think they're going to knock us over the head with it.

Although this theory doesn't explain the existence of the Blue Door script…

[mistajee33]

I'm starting to think that the teaser was definitely misleading and they are in fact sticking close to the Mirage comics. With a few changes of course.

This is a summary from one of the early comics on how the Turtles came to be:

"As Leo questions the aliens' motives, a lone Utrom walks in and explains how they came to Earth. Twenty years ago their ship had crash landed and killed one third of their crew. The survivors managed to integrate themselves into American society thanks to their high tech android disguises. The crew took jobs and quickly amassed enough wealth to buy the building that would become their headquarters. The Utroms salvaged what material they could in effort to build their Translocation Device - the Transmat. Unfortunately while working on their machine, the visitors had an accident 15 1/2 years earlier. The Utroms were bringing the last load of supplies from their crashed ship to their abode when a blind man walked in front of their truck, causing them to swerve out of the way. This violent action dislodged a canister filled with alien ooze and it flew into the street, striking a young man in the head. The container continued to bounce down the street until it hit an aquarium full of turtles that a boy was holding, shattering it. The turtles and the canister fell into the sewers, where the reptiles were bathed in the strange glowing ooze. It was then that Splinter found them... and the rest is history. The Utroms finally managed to contact their homeworld and were asked to remain in New York to continue observation of the planet."

My theory (Speculation only): Eric Sachs is an Utrom. He IS Oroku Saki. After Hamato Yoshi escapes to New York with Splinter, Saki becomes an Utrom and disguises himself as an American (Eric Sachs) and follows him and kills him. April's father witnesses this along with seeing the Utroms and flees. Splinter follows him. He hijacks the Utroms van which is full of the ooze and Splinter sneaks inside and they take off. As young April is walking home from the pet store with 4 baby turtles, her father pulls up to get her but they are stopped by the Utroms. They crash the van and the turtles and the ooze falls down into the sewer. The Utroms kill Aprils father so he won't talk and then they take off. Then Eric Sachs shows up and takes April home with him. With nowhere to go, Splinter heads down the sewer to find the baby turtles and he finds them in the ooze. Years later, April has become a news reporter and she has a fascination with TCRI. She wants to learn the truth about her father. Later on when she meets the turtles and Splinter, Splinter explains to her that Sachs killed Hamato Yoshi. She confronts Sachs and that's when he gives her a B.S. story that he and her father were trying to create heroes. He tries to brand the turtles as bad guys so that the city will believe him and his nonsense as he tries to take over the city.

Sorry for the super long post, but I find this speculation thing fun.

I really like this though. Nicely done.

[xChri5x]

That was beautiful.

[TrickOrTreater]

My theory (Speculation only): Eric Sachs is an Utrom. He IS Oroku Saki. After Hamato Yoshi escapes to New York with Splinter, Saki becomes an Utrom and disguises himself as an American (Eric Sachs) and follows him and kills him. April's father witnesses this along with seeing the Utroms and flees. Splinter follows him. He hijacks the Utroms van which is full of the ooze and Splinter sneaks inside and they take off. As young April is walking home from the pet store with 4 baby turtles, her father pulls up to get her but they are stopped by the Utroms. They crash the van and the turtles and the ooze falls down into the sewer. The Utroms kill Aprils father so he won't talk and then they take off. Then Eric Sachs shows up and takes April home with him. With nowhere to go, Splinter heads down the sewer to find the baby turtles and he finds them in the ooze. Years later, April has become a news reporter and she has a fascination with TCRI. She wants to learn the truth about her father. Later on when she meets the turtles and Splinter, Splinter explains to her that Sachs killed Hamato Yoshi. She confronts Sachs and that's when he gives her a B.S. story that he and her father were trying to create heroes. He tries to brand the turtles as bad guys so that the city will believe him and his nonsense as he tries to take over the city.

Sorry for the super long post, but I find this speculation thing fun.

Why would he need to do that?

[samxsteal]

I'm starting to think that the teaser was definitely misleading and they are in fact sticking close to the Mirage comics. With a few changes of course.

This is a summary from one of the early comics on how the Turtles came to be:

"As Leo questions the aliens' motives, a lone Utrom walks in and explains how they came to Earth. Twenty years ago their ship had crash landed and killed one third of their crew. The survivors managed to integrate themselves into American society thanks to their high tech android disguises. The crew took jobs and quickly amassed enough wealth to buy the building that would become their headquarters. The Utroms salvaged what material they could in effort to build their Translocation Device - the Transmat. Unfortunately while working on their machine, the visitors had an accident 15 1/2 years earlier. The Utroms were bringing the last load of supplies from their crashed ship to their abode when a blind man walked in front of their truck, causing them to swerve out of the way. This violent action dislodged a canister filled with alien ooze and it flew into the street, striking a young man in the head. The container continued to bounce down the street until it hit an aquarium full of turtles that a boy was holding, shattering it. The turtles and the canister fell into the sewers, where the reptiles were bathed in the strange glowing ooze. It was then that Splinter found them... and the rest is history. The Utroms finally managed to contact their homeworld and were asked to remain in New York to continue observation of the planet."

My theory (Speculation only): Eric Sachs is an Utrom. He IS Oroku Saki. After Hamato Yoshi escapes to New York with Splinter, Saki becomes an Utrom and disguises himself as an American (Eric Sachs) and follows him and kills him. April's father witnesses this along with seeing the Utroms and flees. Splinter follows him. He hijacks the Utroms van which is full of the ooze and Splinter sneaks inside and they take off. As young April is walking home from the pet store with 4 baby turtles, her father pulls up to get her but they are stopped by the Utroms. They crash the van and the turtles and the ooze falls down into the sewer. The Utroms kill Aprils father so he won't talk and then they take off. Then Eric Sachs shows up and takes April home with him. With nowhere to go, Splinter heads down the sewer to find the baby turtles and he finds them in the ooze. Years later, April has become a news reporter and she has a fascination with TCRI. She wants to learn the truth about her father. Later on when she meets the turtles and Splinter, Splinter explains to her that Sachs killed Hamato Yoshi. She confronts Sachs and that's when he gives her a B.S. story that he and her father were trying to create heroes. He tries to brand the turtles as bad guys so that the city will believe him and his nonsense as he tries to take over the city.

Sorry for the super long post, but I find this speculation thing fun.
this is super great

[Batman_89_aficionado]

There's no movie Avengers merchandise with Thanos, is there? (genuine question, I'm not sure)

If it's a twist at the end on not a plot point through the film, it could happen.

The thing with Thanos was that he was a different story. To get down to brass tax, he wasn't suppose to be a main villain in the Avengers and was a mid credits sort of deal. Sure. Loki was working for him, but still, The Guardians Of The Galaxy will be a different story since his role will be larger in it. Unlike the size of his from The Avengers.

[Xav]

After Hamato Yoshi escapes to New York with Splinter, Saki becomes an Utrom and disguises himself as an American (Eric Sachs) and follows him and kills him.How the hell does a human "become an Utrom"?

[Y2Bogus]

How the hell does a human "become an Utrom"?

I don't think he meant he becomes an utrom. Likely, the Utrom was using an Oroku Saki suit when he was living in Japan and had his confrontation with Yoshi, and moved into an Eric Sachs suit when he relocated to New York. Possibly because the Saki suit had criminal baggage associated with the identity, he figured switching to the Sachs suit would make it easier to maintain the persona of a benevolent philathropist.

[Candy Kappa]

A Utrom using different faces for his android suit is kinda interesting. It's like a squid version of Roger from American Dad.

[sethmartin]

Yeah I don't know. I was just trying to figure out how they could tie the actors and what we know so far into the Mirage story line. I'm hoping that they purposely designed the teaser to confuse us and stir up publicity and controversy.

[jestermon]

Oh damn. Good find. It might be.

I hope there are no Utroms. I've always wanted them to stick close to the original comics but I never liked the Sci Fi element in the movies. It should be more grounded like the first movie.

They were mutated turtles mad with science fictional ooze the whole thing was science fiction.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

We've already gotten the sci-fi stuff. TMNT 2007 was really sic-fi. The inter-dimensional portals, stone generals and monsters and.... *sigh* ugh. lol. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Kevin Munroe actually tried to do something for the franchise, but that movie was so cheesy and forgettable. Terrible story.

It was more with a fantasy touch. I wan't more hard science fiction elements, relying on technology rather than myths.

Utroms are cool, allowing the stories to use extraterrestrials. But since they use robots disguises, it can still take place much in the shadows (which TMNT is supposed to do, but most versions sometimes seem to care less for that).

[AlZarkovski]

Hmm... Ok...

4 Turtle, 2 Utroms and Shogun-Krang on the Shredder scroll.
My theory:

in Feudal Japan Krang and Shredder (Utrom) were enemies. Shredder had an army of people, turtles and Utroms. He defeated Krang.

Present Day. Shredder learned that Krang will be back soon on the Technodrome. Shredder created Foot and he wants to recreate invincible warriors-cappa (turtles) using mutagen. But the experiment goes badly. April's father turns into a rat. Turtles teach martial arts, but they like children, and Shredder gets rid of them. Turtles and Splinter lives in the sewers.

[NYShell]

They were mutated turtles mad with science fictional ooze the whole thing was science fiction.

Yeah but I prefer leaning out the Sci Fi in the movies.

[TrickOrTreater]

Hmm... Ok...

4 Turtle, 2 Utroms and Shogun-Krang on the Shredder scroll.
My theory:

in Feudal Japan Krang and Shredder (Utrom) were enemies. Shredder had an army of people, turtles and Utroms. He defeated Krang.

Present Day. Shredder learned that Krang will be back soon on the Technodrome. Shredder created Foot and he wants to recreate invincible warriors-cappa (turtles) using mutagen. But the experiment goes badly. April's father turns into a rat. Turtles teach martial arts, but they like children, and Shredder gets rid of them. Turtles and Splinter lives in the sewers.

Don't forget the little dudes fighting with/against the Turtle men that are the same size as Splinter is said to be in this movie.

[Bob]

Someone asked Brad Fuller (one of the producers) on Twitter whether Krang will appear in the film and this was his response: I can't tell you that - and you don't really want me to.

[xChri5x]

Someone asked Brad Fuller (one of the producers) on Twitter whether Krang will appear in the film and this was his response: I can't tell you that - and you don't really want me to.

What does that mean...

[TrickOrTreater]

What does that mean...

It means that Krang IS in the movie and you don't want to be spoiled

OR

It means Krang ISN'T in the movie and you don't want to be disappointed.

[Bob]

It means that Krang IS in the movie and you don't want to be spoiled

OR

It means Krang ISN'T in the movie and you don't want to be disappointed.

Basically this. However, if he category is not in the film, why not just say so. Surely he realises that giving a response like that would just get the person who asked the question thinking? Of course, that could be his intention.

[TrickOrTreater]

Basically this. However, if he category is not in the film, why not just say so. Surely he realises that giving a response like that would just get the person who asked the question thinking? Of course, that could be his intention.

That's it as well.

It's a mixture of the above and NOT being able to say much of anything about the movie except for the basic "non-answers" to interview questions.

Things like plot details, possible character inclusions, spoilers.

For a good example of this, look at Marion Cotillard's interviews during the lead up to the release of The Dark Knight Rises.

Everyone and their f*cking mother knew that the character she was playing was either ACTUALLY Talia Al Ghul or heavily inspired by Talia Al Ghul. But she kept denying it, over and over again.

Hell there were even set photos of her wearing similar tunics to the LoS coming out of a building escorted by LoS members to one of the stolen Tumblers.

It was entirely obvious the entire time(and once that fact became obvious, her inevitable betrayal became obvious as well) but they kept denying it.

I wish somebody would ask one of these people if Hamato Yoshi is in this film. Just to see the answer.

If they give one of those "come on now" looks then you know he's not in it. Because it's not a spoiler, he's been included in one form or another in nearly all iterations of the Turtles since the beginning, so there's not reason not to answer truthfully unless he's not in it. It's something they SHOULD be able to answer, if they were going the properly adapted route and not putting their own "spin" on things.

[Technogeek29]

Would be kind of missing the point since the reason the Turtles fight Shredder is because of Yoshi and Saki's Feud. Even in the OT even though it wasn't that big.

[jestermon]

Yeah but I prefer leaning out the Sci Fi in the movies.

Well then their would be no movie without the sci fi there would be no turtles I think you missed what ninja turtles is about.

[rodster6]

Seeing the potential for the Utroms to be included in the film has boosted the little enthusiasm I had about seeing the film. I actually said to a friend of mine a week or two ago that I thought Shredder may be Utrom after he said in the trailer about creating heros, as if he were behind the Mutagen.

[NYShell]

Well then their would be no movie without the sci fi there would be no turtles I think you missed what ninja turtles is about.

No. I haven't. You're seeing only one side to it. Just look at Steve Barron's Turtles. No Utroms. And it was still the complete essence of Turtles. I think you missed a huge, iconic representation of the Turtles from 1990.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

No. I haven't. You're seeing only one side to it. Just look at Steve Barron's Turtles. No Utroms. And it was still the complete essence of Turtles. I think you missed a huge, iconic representation of the Turtles from 1990.

Technically Barron's film followed more along the Mirage comics first issue storyline.

No Utroms in there either. ;)

[NYShell]

Technically Barron's film followed more along the Mirage comics first issue storyline.

No Utroms in there either. ;)

Uhh, that's what I was trying to say...

[tmntmikey23]

I don't want to interfere in anyones conversion so I will make my own conversion I am pretty ok if they do become utroms anyone agree if you like kraang then I think you should like utroms my option

[Andrew NDB]

No. I haven't. You're seeing only one side to it. Just look at Steve Barron's Turtles. No Utroms. And it was still the complete essence of Turtles. I think you missed a huge, iconic representation of the Turtles from 1990.

While I more or less agree with you (some things were still way off in the movie), whether or not there's Utroms actually seen or IN the movie the virtue of the Turtles' very existence introduces a fairly prevalent sci-fi element. It's right there in the title.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Uhh, that's what I was trying to say...

I meant there were no Utroms in the movie, but since it was following the first issue of Mirage, nothing about the film necessarily indicated Utroms weren't in that continuity either.

Until Secret of the Ooze, of course.

[samxsteal]

I meant there were no Utroms in the movie, but since it was following the first issue of Mirage, nothing about the film necessarily indicated Utroms weren't in that continuity either.

Until Secret of the Ooze, of course.

A part of me think SOTO might have been better had they kept the Utroms in. I mean the reason they left it out was they didn't want to confuse people about krang, But really Krang wasn't the only of his race was he? So if they has a good Utrom and maybe mention krang it could have been great.

[NYShell]

While I more or less agree with you (some things were still way off in the movie), whether or not there's Utroms actually seen or IN the movie the virtue of the Turtles' very existence introduces a fairly prevalent sci-fi element. It's right there in the title.

I meant there were no Utroms in the movie, but since it was following the first issue of Mirage, nothing about the film necessarily indicated Utroms weren't in that continuity either.

Until Secret of the Ooze, of course.

Hmm. That's pretty true

[Cryomancer]

Nothing in SOTO really makes it impossible for the Professor to be an Utrom. Sadly the reveal never happens, but he still could have just been one the whole time without anyone knowing.

[TheMexicanStaringFrog]

Nothing in SOTO really makes it impossible for the Professor to be an Utrom. Sadly the reveal never happens, but he still could have just been one the whole time without anyone knowing.

Actually that was the plan, i read somewhere Pete's letters to someone but they went another direction. For me that was the worst part of original movies, lack of any turtle villains. Campy tone wouldn't bother me that much if they just gave me some good villains...

[Wildcat]

Oh, very interesting. I hope there is Utroms/Krang in this movie series. It would be cool if the ending was a cliff-hanger to an impending invasion.

That video clip about Shredder sounds like Eric becomes the next Shredder...as in theres been multiple Shredders since the originals defeat, but then what about Karai? Either way sounds exciting.

[TheMexicanStaringFrog]

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/blast-from-past-483-thoughts-on-second.html
Here it is...

[MajorViolence]

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/blast-from-past-483-thoughts-on-second.html
Here it is...

Thanks! This will make for a good read!


Anyway… one main concern is that the second (and any subsequent) movie stay as much away from the cartoon show, and as close to the original black and white comics, as the first movie did. We don't want to see Bebop and Rocksteady, or Krang, or any of the other goofy characters. We feel that there is plenty of material in the black and white books to form the basis for another good movie.

Oh.... >_o

[Machias Banshee]

Okay, let's try opening this thread, since the trailer one's doing well...

Again, feel free to debate and disagree, just be decent to each other. :)

[Xav]

A part of me think SOTO might have been better had they kept the Utroms in. I mean the reason they left it out was they didn't want to confuse people about krang, But really Krang wasn't the only of his race was he?Has that been confirmed by anyone involved with the movie?

[samxsteal]

Has that been confirmed by anyone involved with the movie?

as far as i have seen

[Plasticplayhouse]

as the pieces of the puzzle come together, things are starting to get very interesting. my level of anticipation for this film just went up a few clicks.

[Pondslider]

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/blast-from-past-483-thoughts-on-second.html
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Man, I wish Peter Laird was still involved with the franchise. :ohwell: