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Leo2k3
03-30-2014, 02:35 PM
Hey everyone. I have a small favor to ask. I was hoping if anyone could help shed some light on the Nickelodeon TMNT. In other words, could anyone give me some reasons why the show is cool. A friend of mine is a huge fan of the 2003 series and they are having trouble sitting through the episodes. They constantly have issues with the slight slapstick comedy, Donatello's crush, and the constant mutants. Now they are familiar with the 80's toon, but this amounts to a a few episodes being seen will they were growing up. We both basically grew up with the 2003 show, meaning we were about twelve when the show first aired. I like the show because of the action scenes. My friend seems to like the 2k3 series only and they will not give the nick show any credit.
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snake
03-30-2014, 02:38 PM
It has a lot of references for fans. The turtles act more like brothers then in 2k3. And Raph doesn't sound like a 50 year old man.

CyberCubed
03-30-2014, 02:53 PM
Smack the person and tell them that there is nothing wrong with being lighthearted and comedic. In fact its more entertaining.

Tubuloso 1984
03-30-2014, 02:53 PM
Similar to the original show, love the 3D design, and doesn't bore me to death like the 2003 show.

Whatswiththeheadbands?
03-30-2014, 03:18 PM
IMO, it has a perfect blend of seriousness and light heartedness.

CyberCubed
03-30-2014, 04:11 PM
Similar to the original show, love the 3D design, and doesn't bore me to death like the 2003 show.

The 2003 cartoon had excellent writing and storylines, don't see how you could be "bored to death."

kolaida
03-30-2014, 04:16 PM
Some people just don't like things to be different. If your friend doesn't like it, I don't think there's much any of us can do to change their mind. I mean, if they are going for serious, see what they think of the last Rat King episode.

As for reasons you can give the turtles act WAAAY more like brothers and than 2K3 (while I got some brother vibes, still felt a little roommate-ish to me). These guys act like they have grown up around each other and know each other pretty well and do goofy things that siblings tend to do with each other.

The designs are cute.

The action is good and it's just FUN. I like watching things that are FUN and I consider TMNT fun to watch.

electric_sheep
03-30-2014, 04:22 PM
It's really cartoony and the world never expands, It's really episodic and it has Worst version of Casey Jones those are good things right?

Tubuloso 1984
03-30-2014, 04:50 PM
The 2003 cartoon had excellent writing and storylines, don't see how you could be "bored to death."

It just never appealed to me. Didn't like the design of the turtles, tried being too dark, etc.

Eiko
03-30-2014, 05:25 PM
The 2003 cartoon had excellent writing and storylines, don't see how you could be "bored to death."

I got bored with it because it evolved around Leo to much.

JTH
03-30-2014, 05:44 PM
2k3 had moments for me, I did enjoy some of the major arcs. (Good Genes, SAINW, etc.) But the regular episode to fill the gaps between those arcs didn't really do anything for me.

The Battle Nexus Tournament really put the sour taste in my mouth. I understood having Mikey win for sere shock value, but it ultimately ended up being the worst thing they could do.

I couldn't stand Mikey's character after that.

CyberCubed
03-30-2014, 05:49 PM
The Battle Nexus Tournament really put the sour taste in my mouth. I understood having Mikey win for sere shock value, but it ultimately ended up being the worst thing they could do.

I couldn't stand Mikey's character after that.

The Battle Nexus tournament and the episodes themselves were one of the best arcs to come out of 4kids, but Mikey's character changing because of it was disappointing.

JTH
03-30-2014, 05:56 PM
The Battle Nexus tournament and the episodes themselves were one of the best arcs to come out of 4kids, but Mikey's character changing because of it was disappointing.
Hell, when I first saw it way back, I thought I was an odd duck when I began to turn on Mikey's character. I knew I was possibly one of a very select few group.

Then when I started reading this forum...:lol:

LeotheLateBloomer
03-30-2014, 10:30 PM
The turtles act more like brothers then in 2k3.

I strongly disagree with this statement. In 2k3, the turtles and even Splinter have gone through a whole lot to protect each other from many different beings that threaten their lives. Even though the 2k12 turtles know how to protect one another, this show has not explored enough of the close relationships they have with each other.

Bossa Nova
03-30-2014, 10:43 PM
The 2k12 show has an extremely different tone and dynamic than the 2k3 show. I can totally understand why someone might not be as involved in the 2k12 show if the 2k3 is what hit are their right buttons since they approach similar issues extremely differently. There's no point in forcing yourself to watch something that just doesn't catch your fancy if you really don't want to, ultimately it's just a difference in tastes. Personally, I prefer the 2k3 WAAAAAAY over the 2k12 series as well and don't think this show compares, but I can find the points that I DO like and appreciate those. If you or your friend don't want to bother, then that's cool. No point wasting your time, though I might suggest giving the IDW comics a try as I find the tone in those much more similar to the 2k3 series than 2k12.

swing_kinker
03-31-2014, 04:13 PM
I'm going to give it a shot. Looks very kiddie though........I'm a man child but I think this may be just a little too kiddie for me. We'll see

electric_sheep
03-31-2014, 04:18 PM
I'm going to give it a shot. Looks very kiddie though........I'm a man child but I think this may be just a little too kiddie for me. We'll see

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BubblyShell22
03-31-2014, 04:33 PM
I like this show because for me it has the fantastic blend of lighthearted comedy and seriousness when the situation calls for it not to mention that it gives homages to what has come before which is really neat. However, if your friend doesn't like it, then you can't really force them to watch it. They have to decide for themselves whether they want to give it a chance or not.

snake
03-31-2014, 04:51 PM
I'm going to give it a shot. Looks very kiddie though........I'm a man child but I think this may be just a little too kiddie for me. We'll see

Good, trust me, if you like the OT, it's more serious then that.

swing_kinker
03-31-2014, 05:00 PM
I grew up on the Fred Wolf series, the live action movies and the comics. The 2003 series kinds of passed me by but from what I've seen it's actually good. Been hearing good things about this series but I may just be a little too old for it. Nostalgia is a powerful force for me so that's why I can still watch the original cartoon.

snake
03-31-2014, 05:28 PM
I grew up on the Fred Wolf series, the live action movies and the comics. The 2003 series kinds of passed me by but from what I've seen it's actually good. Been hearing good things about this series but I may just be a little too old for it. Nostalgia is a powerful force for me so that's why I can still watch the original cartoon.

It's really good, just trust me.

Leofan26
03-31-2014, 08:56 PM
I hear you, being a 2003 series fan myself I hard time getting into this show too. It has it's pros and cons though...For example, they have arcs in this series, it just takes forever to continue, tons of filler episodes in between that, you have to be very patient :lol:

If you like Mikey that's another problem, writers can't seem to make up there minds on what to do with him :P

New animation, keep an open mind about it :lol:

Don't like the Donnie x April romance? Yah, I try to ignore it but if your friend can't do that just going to be in it till that's over :lol:

Other than that, I'd give it a B.

Warhorse
04-01-2014, 12:02 AM
I got bored with it because it evolved around Leo to much.

It started to get a bit Leo heavy when Karai was introduced. It made for some great episodes, but I feel that the other three brothers became second fiddle to the Leo and Karai show.

I hope Nick don't follow the same path, but it seems to be already doing that. I'd like it that all of the Turtles can beat Karai, not just Leo and a one shot with April. It makes it look like Splinter isn't as good of a teacher as the Shredder is.

Warhorse
04-01-2014, 12:07 AM
I grew up on the Fred Wolf series, the live action movies and the comics. The 2003 series kinds of passed me by but from what I've seen it's actually good. Been hearing good things about this series but I may just be a little too old for it. Nostalgia is a powerful force for me so that's why I can still watch the original cartoon.

Instead of watching from the beginning, I say start with The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones. It gives you an idea of what the better episodes can be.

My biggest issue with this show, is not enough Shredder, the purple dragons or the Foot.

swing_kinker
04-01-2014, 12:08 AM
I'm going to give it a shot. Looks very kiddie though........I'm a man child but I think this may be just a little too kiddie for me. We'll see

Ok so I watched a few episodes......pleasantly surprised

kelligrafie
04-02-2014, 03:44 PM
There's nothing wrong with not liking a series because it doesn't appeal to your personal tastes.

It's when you just inanely slate it to the ground or insult other fans for liking it, that's when it becomes an issue.

Cipher
04-02-2014, 04:50 PM
The Nick show is genuinely far better done than the 4Kids series, although I don't have a whole lot of bad things to say about that either (it did what it could with the restraints 4Kids and Playmates put on it).

It's legitimately funny, has a great balance of well-done action and humor, and is as perfectly an all-ages a show as TMNT has ever seen (meaning it can be easily enjoyed by both kids and adults). And its acting, jeez, not even a comparison.

I'm guessing your friend is like ... sixteen? Seventeen? The older you get, the more the seams start showing on the 4Kids version, and the more enjoyable the Nick version becomes.

Or, just tell him to start reading the Mirage comics. That's my vote.

Bossa Nova
04-02-2014, 05:50 PM
I'm guessing your friend is like ... sixteen? Seventeen? The older you get, the more the seams start showing on the 4Kids version, and the more enjoyable the Nick version becomes.

Or, just tell him to start reading the Mirage comics. That's my vote.

Why does someone have to be a kid or a teenager to enjoy the 2k3 series more? :ohwell: I'm about to turn 25 and I greatly prefer the 2k3 series to Nick (and no, I didn't grow up with it since I didn't even know it existed until Turtles Forever and I didn't even watch it till a couple summers ago). Honestly it's just a different style and tone of show, and it and Nick are so vastly different I think it makes sense that one or the other might not be to someone's taste and it has nothing to do with one being "better" than the other.