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1987
04-07-2014, 05:25 PM
i searched and coulnt find any info, to my knowledge there is no bluray releases of the ot, correct me if im wrong. but if thats really the case, will the ot ever be released on bluray? either in seasonal sets or as a whole complete series on bluray. please post any info u may have on an ot bluray release thanks.

having ot on bluray would give the best sharpest possible picture. dvd can take up the whole flatscreen but is a little blurry, and itunes on appletv looks sharp but doesnt take up the whole screen, so it would be great to have the series on bluray for perfectvision.

turtlefanforever
04-07-2014, 05:51 PM
and probably never will be.

1987
04-07-2014, 06:30 PM
weak! i was hoping there was at least something in the works from nick. then again i remember how much of a hassle it was for lionsgate to release the dvds.

there must be some licensing issues, if nick were to release the ot on bluray, would they have to go into the end credits of each episode and edit the nick logo into it or something? or would just having the nickelodeon name on the dvd intro be enough?

JTH
04-07-2014, 06:55 PM
There are many cartoons from the 80s and 90s that no longer have their original masters in existence any more simply because back in the day, there was no need to keep them around after they were transferred to video tape. Obviously long before the "tvshowsondvd.com era"

The only masters that remain for many cartoons in the 80s-90s like Turtles, X-Men, Thundercats, etc. are the standard definition 1 inch broadcast tapes.

Therefore the only use to put it on Blu-Ray is simply to reduce disc space.

So in short, probably about a 90-95% percent chance it won't happen, and even if it did, it wouldn't be a real HD release. In truth, there really is no need to do it.

Shark_Blade
04-07-2014, 07:39 PM
Pretty sure there was a thread about ot on blu ray before.. like it's coming or something.

JTH
04-07-2014, 08:25 PM
Pretty sure there was a thread about ot on blu ray before.. like it's coming or something.
Yes, a European release.

Which was nothing but the standard def. episodes tossed on 3 Blu-Ray discs.

Shark_Blade
04-08-2014, 02:58 AM
Yes, a European release.

Which was nothing but the standard def. episodes tossed on 3 Blu-Ray discs.Shame. If it's an upscaled or Remastered quality, I would totally buy it.

rickwj324
04-08-2014, 07:55 AM
It was a German release I believe. Standard def episodes. The worst part is that I believe it had German-only audio!! :(

ProactiveMan
04-10-2014, 03:15 AM
They could probably digitally restore/remaster the episodes to a point, but it would cost a fortune and take forever. The only way to get legit HD versions would be to re-shoot the cells, and I'm pretty sure that's not possible.

I think the show looks OK on DVD, especially if your player has a good up-scaler.

pferreira
04-10-2014, 09:45 AM
DVD quality of these episodes sure is better than what I had to put up with on VHS! :lol:

GodzFire
04-10-2014, 04:33 PM
Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases, I'd like to see it given to another company so it would actually be done right and possibly with improved picture quality, not to mention room for a bunch more extras.

TMNT-Leonardo
05-13-2014, 12:46 AM
[QUOTE=GodzFire;1246730]Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases/QUOTE]

The original masters probably don't even exist anymore, that's why it had to be taken from a VHS source. The Real Ghostbusters DVD is an example of this, as the TimeLife who did them said they weren't able to obtain the master copies, so they used broadcast copies, and what's worse is the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song). Reason being, they were the only copies they could obtain, leaving further speculation believe that they no longer exist.

Using the source copies is the least problem though, many of their releases crammed episodes into one disc making the quality even lower.

rickwj324
05-13-2014, 07:43 AM
[QUOTE=GodzFire;1246730]the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song).

I have the complete Real Ghostbusters boxed set but haven't watched more than a few episodes. I didn't realize this.
However...if it was taken froma PAL source then that would speed it up not slow it down. PAL video speeds up by about 4% or so. Unnoticeable to most, but some do hear the difference in pitch.

Rick

TMNT-Leonardo
05-13-2014, 07:17 PM
I have the complete Real Ghostbusters boxed set but haven't watched more than a few episodes. I didn't realize this.
However...if it was taken froma PAL source then that would speed it up not slow it down. PAL video speeds up by about 4% or so. Unnoticeable to most, but some do hear the difference in pitch.

This explains it better; but the sound speed is very noticeable. This is mainly for volume 4.

http://www.theraffon.net/~spookcentral/scblog/index.php/2008/11/21/real-ghostbusters-dvd-collection-hands-o

sdp
05-13-2014, 10:04 PM
No english audio?

I'd like to own the series in only 3 BR discs, the quality can't be worse than the current DVD releases.

snake
05-13-2014, 10:08 PM
[QUOTE=GodzFire;1246730]Given the fact that Lionsgate so half-assed the original DVD releases and most likely took VHS sources instead of the originals for a lot of the releases/QUOTE]

The original masters probably don't even exist anymore, that's why it had to be taken from a VHS source. The Real Ghostbusters DVD is an example of this, as the TimeLife who did them said they weren't able to obtain the master copies, so they used broadcast copies, and what's worse is the last few seasons were taken from a PAL video source and so the episode plays at a slower rate (this is very noticeable in the voices and theme song). Reason being, they were the only copies they could obtain, leaving further speculation believe that they no longer exist.

Using the source copies is the least problem though, many of their releases crammed episodes into one disc making the quality even lower.

With how many episodes the OT had, this is probably the case.

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
05-13-2014, 10:11 PM
I have the entire collection in the Party Wagon van and that's probably as good as it will ever get. The films aren't even on blu-ray are they?

snake
05-13-2014, 10:12 PM
I have the entire collection in the Party Wagon van and that's probably as good as it will ever get. The films aren't even on blu-ray are they?

They are.


http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Film-Collection-Blu-ray/4096/

saul
05-14-2014, 11:57 AM
If anyone here cares about watching the show in the HIGHEST quality possible, look into the German DVD release here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924

These DVD's are amazing quality, that are as close to hi-def bluray as we'll probably get.

NOTE: the german DVD release has BOTH the English & German episodes as completely different files, but it looks like the Bluray German release only includes the German files. So make sure to get the DVD not BluRay version. The German files are edited to remove the nunchucks, have a different opening theme song and title card ("hero turtles"), and of course are in German.

The PAL speed up issue is easily fixed with a program called Re-Clock. The very first episode however is not sped up.

The German company who made these transfers did an amazing job that puts the US Lion Gate releases to shame. And the PAL version is a higher resolution too (with more pixels).

rickwj324
05-14-2014, 12:03 PM
If anyone here cares about watching the show in the HIGHEST quality possible, look into the German DVD release here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924

These DVD's are amazing quality, that are as close to hi-def bluray as we'll probably get.

NOTE: the german DVD release has BOTH the English & German episodes as completely different files, but it looks like the Bluray German release only includes the German files. So make sure to get the DVD not BluRay version. The German files are edited to remove the nunchucks, have a different opening theme song and title card ("hero turtles"), and of course are in German.

The PAL speed up issue is easily fixed with a program called Re-Clock. The very first episode however is not sped up.

The German company who made these transfers did an amazing job that puts the US Lion Gate releases to shame. And the PAL version is a higher resolution too (with more pixels).

It also would be unplayable to most of those in the USA. 2 issues prevent us from playing European dvd's: Region locking and PAL encoding. Even if the dvd's are region-free most US tv's and dvd players won't play PAL sources.

saul
05-14-2014, 12:12 PM
It also would be unplayable to most of those in the USA. 2 issues prevent us from playing European dvd's: Region locking and PAL encoding. Even if the dvd's are region-free most US tv's and dvd players won't play PAL sources.

Yes, these episodes are probably not for viewing on a standard DVD player unless you have a bluray player that can play PAL. Looks like this one can: http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/

A better bet is playing these files off of your computer, or hooking your computer up to your TV (which will be the standard way in the future).

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/316506-Do-They-Exist-Blu-ray-players-that-supports-NTSC-PAL

tfranzone
05-14-2014, 03:29 PM
local target has the first 2 seasons on DVD for $5 each.. I highly doubt they will ever transfer these to blu ray.. so I'll just settle for those..