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Wildcat
04-08-2014, 03:38 AM
How would you like a new cartoon where they're kids? Like Muppet Babies, Tom and Jerry Kids, Flintstone Kids and A Pup named Scooby Doo.

They wouldn't be babies, I just used Muppet Babies as an example of the different cartoons that have gotten the child-ization treatment. I think it could be really cool seeing them grow up and learn their skills. Humor could be similar to those other shows.

Im not saying there would be a kid version of Shredder or April since that wouldn't add up with them coming out of hiding but obviously thered have to be some bending since it can't all take place in the sewer. Maybe they'd fight playground bullies. They could go out on Halloween and pretend they're trick or treaters. Hey this could even explain them having and knowing of modern conveniences like TV.

Shark_Blade
04-08-2014, 03:53 AM
I can't even stand Tom & Jerry Kids so if it's anything like that, kill it with fire.

Wildcat
04-08-2014, 03:57 AM
You hate Tom and Jerry Kids?! Why? It was like alot of cartoons from that era except with Tom and Jerry.

I mean its humor was still like you would expect.

Powder
04-08-2014, 04:00 AM
It almost happened but we got BTTS instead. Thank god. I would hate this.

Asha
04-08-2014, 04:05 AM
I would love to see a flashback or an episode like that. A whole series wouldn't offer a lot of stories. But does sound cute as hell.

Shark_Blade
04-08-2014, 04:10 AM
Aren't we getting Toddler turtles episodes this season? I believe 2k3 and OT also had this already.You hate Tom and Jerry Kids?! Why? It was like alot of cartoons from that era except with Tom and Jerry.

I mean its humor was still like you would expect.

I prefer the original Tom and Jerry, where the humor and high quality animation are still in tact.

Tom and Jerry Kids look so cheap and the style just doesn't do it for me. I may vomit.

Wildcat
04-08-2014, 04:18 AM
Aren't we getting Toddler turtles episodes this season? I believe 2k3 and OT also had this already.

I prefer the original Tom and Jerry, where the humor and high quality animation are still in tact.

Tom and Jerry Kids look so cheap and the style just doesn't do it for me. I may vomit.I know 2k3 and OT did episodes like this but not to its full extent.

As for Tom and Jerry kids, I can understand if you prefer the originals but to say "kids" looked cheap and it makes you wanna vomit is really exaggerated.

The animation was fine. It was on par with other cartoons of the time. How was it cheap?

@powder, I don't remember ever hearing this idea. Is there info on it?

Zulithe
04-08-2014, 04:28 AM
While I think it's a cool area of the TMNT history to explore, I'd be happy if they just did a few episodes about it.

Would love if the Nick show did some kind of flashback episode to Splinter with the turtles as kids, when he first started teaching them and stuff. Maybe even have some kind of villain or problem that needs solving in the episode to give it a little more tension.

I dig the 'muppet babies' concept though, but it would obviously have to be set in its own universe... you can't just do, say, a show about the Nick turtles as kids and have it be in continuity... why? Because they don't go up to the surface and discover other mutants and the kraang until S01E01 so it limits what the show can be about DRAMATICALLY. There are some creative ways around it I guess, but still, too limiting.

At the end of the day though, even if they just had baby versions of snakeweed and leatherhead running around in the same show... while cute at first, it just makes no sense and feels weird :)

Also, relevant:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005KJUI.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Candy Kappa
04-08-2014, 04:32 AM
Ugh... Nononononono. Whenever the Kid-ified shows aired, it was time to change the channel.

Wildcat
04-08-2014, 04:42 AM
While I think it's a cool area of the TMNT history to explore, I'd be happy if they just did a few episodes about it.

Would love if the Nick show did some kind of flashback episode to Splinter with the turtles as kids, when he first started teaching them and stuff. Maybe even have some kind of villain or problem that needs solving in the episode to give it a little more tension.

I dig the 'muppet babies' concept though, but it would obviously have to be set in its own universe... you can't just do, say, a show about the Nick turtles as kids and have it be in continuity... why? Because they don't go up to the surface and discover other mutants and the kraang until S01E01 so it limits what the show can be about DRAMATICALLY. There are some creative ways around it I guess, but still, too limiting.

At the end of the day though, even if they just had baby versions of snakeweed and leatherhead running around in the same show... while cute at first, it just makes no sense and feels weird :) Well yes its own universe. I didnt mean the current Nick turtles. I just meant a general cartoon.

I liked All Grown Up. It was pretty good. Once it went full series growed was spelled correctly.

Jester
04-08-2014, 04:46 AM
I wondered if the "Half Shell Heroes" figures would have a show attached...

If they did a Turtles series like Super Hero Squad, I'd be for it. It's "for kids" without de-aging the cast. (And SHS had some jokes buried deep for adult fans, too.)

Powder
04-08-2014, 04:46 AM
@powder, I don't remember ever hearing this idea. Is there info on it?

Yep. It came a long way too but ultimately was turned down by Playmates. There's a fair bit of concept art floating around the web... I'm sure I have most of it on my hard drive but it'd take ages to find it. :P This should suffice- http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/tmnt-overload.html

http://i57.tinypic.com/riaezt.jpg

Wildcat
04-08-2014, 04:55 AM
Oh thanks but that would have been with both adults and kids together...I meant just the kids going through childhood. No time travel or weirdness.

Powder
04-08-2014, 05:01 AM
I know, I can read. Just sayin', the focus would have still been on kid turtles. Close enough. Either way, I don't want turtle tots of any variety, not for a whole series, anyway.

Zulithe
04-08-2014, 05:12 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QaRdwnI.jpg

That would have been a funny take on TMNT... sooo many scrapped TMNT ideas over the years.

I wondered if the "Half Shell Heroes" figures would have a show attached...


It's true, that Half Shell Heroes thing kinda came out of the blue. It makes sense, because it is a rapidly growing segment of the toy market (Imaginext etc.) but we really don't know what Viacom/Nick has up their sleeves, they could be developing a show around it and just not announced it yet.

Wildcat
04-08-2014, 05:27 AM
Just saw the Half Shell Hero toys. Didnt even know about them til now.

They're pretty cute. Gotta get me some.

The Fifth Turtle
04-08-2014, 07:27 AM
Aren't we getting Toddler turtles episodes this season?


I hope so. We've had the ninjas in training figures for a while now.

Eiko
04-08-2014, 09:11 AM
Maybe like a mini series or something prob would not want more than that.

Warhorse
04-08-2014, 02:02 PM
Im just wondering, why arevso many against a show on turtle tots? If its not your thing, fine, then just dont watch it but why so against it when others might enjoy it?

RaphAndDonnie
04-08-2014, 03:14 PM
If it's something like the X-Babies, where the genre is parodied, then I wouldn't mind but I can barely stand the turtle tots so I can't say i'd watch it if it were played straight.

Tubuloso 1984
04-08-2014, 03:29 PM
I just can't see what they'd do without leaving the sewer. Maybe fight against mutated turds?

pannoni1
04-08-2014, 03:30 PM
Those kiddified toons appealed to a young 2-7 year old demographic that had no recognition of any other version. Muppet Babies is unique since that was targeted to the Sesame Street audience and never had an animated form in which they were standard Muppets, and even some grown-ups liked to watch the show with the children and even won some Emmys. But the others are only for little kids if they catch it before the parents say they don't recommend it. That's why Pup named Scooby Doo and Flinstones Kids were mostly watched by very young children back then, and as soon as those shows ended, it quickly became forgotten until the Web brought back the memories. That's why it works best as an episode or two for comedic effect (Incredible Shrinking Turtles). But the thing about this is that the Turtles mutated quickly into teenagers and spent their regular lifes as regular pet Turtles. Please, no kiddie series.

turtlefanforever
04-08-2014, 04:07 PM
An OT based mini series like this I would welcome. If its like Tinytoons. They are still themselves just little versions.

BubblyShell22
04-08-2014, 05:37 PM
I'd like some flashback episodes, but not a whole series.

blindturtle02
04-08-2014, 06:02 PM
I'd like some flashback episodes, but not a whole series.

I'd like flashback eps too. Although if it was a whole series, I'd hope the continuity would be something other than 2012 because I'd like to see them leave the lair. Just not sure who they'd have as enemies if they were stuck down there as kids in the Nick continuity. I think I'd give it a go if it was made into a series.

TurtleTitan97
04-08-2014, 06:17 PM
I'd like some flashback episodes, but not a whole series.

^ This. A Ninja Turtles cartoon that just has them as kids seems like a bad idea.

Wildcat
04-08-2014, 06:53 PM
I just can't see what they'd do without leaving the sewer. Maybe fight against mutated turds?Uhh, train, play games, etc. It wouldn't all take place in the sewer.

snake
04-08-2014, 07:13 PM
A whole series? No way! One or two flashback episodes would be okay but a whole series?

1987
04-08-2014, 07:14 PM
isnt the nickelodeon series suppose to be kiddy versions of the turtles? specifically nick mikey

TurtleTitan97
04-08-2014, 07:17 PM
isnt the nickelodeon series suppose to be kiddy versions of the turtles? specifically nick mikey

He means as toddlers, wise guy.

victory_angel
04-08-2014, 07:36 PM
I think people are also forgetting Baby Loony Toons. Loony Toon's characters living in a house and having wacky imaginative adventures Ala Muppet baby style. But making it less imaginative then MB and more children's life lesson situations.

For example in one episode Sylvester eats a whole plateful of Chocolate Chip cookies that Granny had made. Knowing Granny will be mad at them about it, the baby Loony Toons all say a monster appeared and gobbled the cookies up. Granny doesn't buy it, but plays along and says she'll just have to make more since she didn't see the monster. The baby Loony Toon's create a monster costume so they could get more cookies. While Granny pretends that she doesn't see them and continually makes cookies. Eventually they all get tummy aches and admit they made the whole monster thing up.

Personally I don't see anything like this happening with the Turtles. But there have been moments that could have been used as a good segue into flash backs in previous incarnations. For example Tales of Leo episode where Leo is practically beaten to the point where he's standing in front of deaths doggie door. And the Turtle's and Splinter all tell them moments where he had been there for them.

Similar moments could have been in the Good Genes Arc where even though Donnie is fighting a loosing battle as his mind falls more and more into the feral mind of his beastial form. The other Turtles could have maybe told him memories where he had some importance as a means of trying to keep him with them.

Or maybe a moment where maybe April or Casey come across a photo album and they pass the time looking at the photos with the turtles and Splinter mentioning memories that come across in the photos.

or maybe when they loose the lair and they feel down or lost because of it, they have a memory session to remind them of moments where things appeared hopeless. But they were able to stay strong and see things through after all as long as they all had each other, they were home.

Some flash back moments I would like to see are

Name Origin.

Weapons origin

bro-moments

Donnie as a genius.

Looking more into Splinters relationship with Shredder and Teng Shen

Wildcat
04-09-2014, 01:23 AM
Yes there was also Baby Looney Tunes. I watched a few episodes but it wasn't as good as the others imo.

I was also going to include Tiny Toons because its really the same formula. Only difference is they made them separate characters with mentors.

So it seems that, on this site at least, people really hated those kid-ified shows with the exception of Muppet Babies...and Tiny Toons Im guessing, Id hope.

Well thats a shame. :ohwell:

Shark_Blade
04-09-2014, 01:52 AM
Tom & Jerry Kids
Good Lord why
http://i.imgur.com/NIS3FF4.jpg


Baby Looney Tunes
Ew
http://i.imgur.com/3nJgLVl.jpg

Tiny Toons
urgh
http://i.imgur.com/8jnQ43H.jpg


Muppet Babies
*i'm so ****ing done*
http://i.imgur.com/jX7A4al.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/nH3RsGJ.jpg

Leofan26
04-09-2014, 06:10 PM
The only show I enjoyed out of that bunch was A Pup Named Scooby - Doo and Muppet Babies ( Which makes no sense with the films but whatever! ) Depends I guess, none of these shows made sense so if done right, maybe???

1987
04-09-2014, 07:06 PM
He means as toddlers, wise guy.

thread title reads kids. u nick fans are so sensitive

snake
04-09-2014, 07:39 PM
thread title reads kids. u nick fans are so sensitive

OT only fans are so obnoxious. Read OPs first post.

1987
04-09-2014, 07:51 PM
OT only fans are so obnoxious. Read OPs first post.

i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

RaphAndDonnie
04-09-2014, 08:13 PM
i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

For clarifaction purposes the Nick turtles are TEENAGERS not children. It is the youngest incarnation of them, sure, but they are not children.

snake
04-09-2014, 08:13 PM
i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

Teenage mutant ninja turtles.

victory_angel
04-09-2014, 10:12 PM
i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

I believe they were meaning kids between the ages of 3 and 12. So in other words Turtle Tots and Turtle Tweens.

The examples of shows in that vain were

Muppet Babies and Baby Loony Toons which had well loved characters being old enough to talk to but still young enough to be considered infants so somewhere between two and three.

Tom and Jerry Kids was similar with having the same antics with normal Tom and Jerry except for the fact that Tom is a kitten not a cat, and Jerry is juvenile mouse. The rest of the cast had Spike and Droopy with their own personal mini-me's as their sons.

Flintstone Kids and A Pup named Scooby Doo-This had the classic characters from these shows all in pre-teen forms of themselves. So between 2nd and 5th grade.

While Tiny Toon Adventures had the classic Loony Toons as teachers, but the main cast were all teen-aged doppelgangers of the original Loony Toons to an extent.

There was also a short lived show known as Yo Yogi! which had Yogi, Booboo, Cindy, Snagglepuss, Huckelberry hound, other HB characters as teenagers. But other characters such as Doggy Daddy, Adam Ant, and Hokey Wolf appear as normal Adults.

turtlefanforever
04-09-2014, 11:08 PM
It was red herring!!! Haha but yeah I'd like it but it's have to be called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: the younger years" or something to that effect. I don't want baby mutant ninja turtles. And I think 1987 means even though they are teenagers in the show they act like they are toddlers and pre teens.

Wildcat
04-09-2014, 11:34 PM
It was red herring!!! Haha but yeah I'd like it but it's have to be called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: the younger years" or something to that effect. I don't want baby mutant ninja turtles. And I think 1987 means even though they are teenagers in the show they act like they are toddlers and pre teens.No, 1987 knows what I meant. I just ignored it.

victory_angel
04-10-2014, 12:07 AM
It was red herring!!! Haha but yeah I'd like it but it's have to be called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: the younger years" or something to that effect. I don't want baby mutant ninja turtles. And I think 1987 means even though they are teenagers in the show they act like they are toddlers and pre teens.

More like Tweenage mutant ninja Turtles.

Which will have school yard bully versions of Shredder, Rocksteady, and Bebop.

TheDarkKunoichi
04-10-2014, 01:52 AM
Well, I don't know about you guys, but I actually think a show that features the TMNT as kids would be radical! Imagine that you can finally take a peek at how they were actually developed and trained into the Turtles we know today. And also, I wanted to watch how Splinter took care of them. Did they all have a problem with toilet training? Who spoke first? When are their birthdays? (I liked to think that they all have separate birthdays) There's just so many questions and I can't wait for them to be answered! So yeah, if they ever decided to make one, let's just hope it isn't corny or weird and stuff.

TheBlueTurtle1
04-10-2014, 01:54 AM
I used to like Tom and Jerry Kids, Muppet Babies etc but I always like the real Tom and Jerry well better, and Don't see what a whole series could offer, a few episodes are fine.

victory_angel
04-10-2014, 02:50 AM
I wanted to watch how Splinter took care of them. Did they all have a problem with toilet training? Who spoke first? When are their birthdays? (I liked to think that they all have separate birthdays) There's just so many questions and I can't wait for them to be answered! So yeah, if they ever decided to make one, let's just hope it isn't corny or weird and stuff.

I know TMNT has toilet humor every so often, but please go read fanfics if you want potty training Turtles.

As for birthdays, since they were animals first they really don't have a concept of what day they hatched. So unless the turtles look at a calender and each pick a date as to when they hatched, you are largely looking same day birthday celebrations.

For who spoke first. I'd like to think that both Leo and Raph began speaking at the same time, and Mikey some time after. Donnie he strikes me as the sort of person who would have been mistaken for mute when he was small. And then its revealed that due to being somewhat more socially awkward then his brothers he has a preference of keeping to himself and as such will only really speak when invited to or addressed.

Wildcat
04-10-2014, 03:15 AM
I like the "TWEENage Mutant Ninja Turtles" title. As for birthdays I could see them having one big celebration.

I just thought of something. What if Karai was the playground bully? She could be roughly their age but they wouldn't know yet that she was Shredder's daughter. Like I said Im not thinking this would be the current Nick universe. Just a separate general universe.

As for their looks compared to other children...the OT got away with them only needing trench coats and hats so Im thinking something similar. Hoodies and baseball caps? Being a more lighthearted incarnation it could work.

The more I think about it I really love this idea.

turtlefanforever
04-10-2014, 11:11 AM
I know TMNT has toilet humor every so often, but please go read fanfics if you want potty training Turtles.

As for birthdays, since they were animals first they really don't have a concept of what day they hatched. So unless the turtles look at a calender and each pick a date as to when they hatched, you are largely looking same day birthday celebrations.

For who spoke first. I'd like to think that both Leo and Raph began speaking at the same time, and Mikey some time after. Donnie he strikes me as the sort of person who would have been mistaken for mute when he was small. And then its revealed that due to being somewhat more socially awkward then his brothers he has a preference of keeping to himself and as such will only really speak when invited to or addressed.


In the original series there's is an episode called " Michelangelo's birthday" in season 2 or 3. So take that as you will.

victory_angel
04-10-2014, 12:28 PM
In the original series there's is an episode called " Michelangelo's birthday" in season 2 or 3. So take that as you will.

Yeah I am aware of that episode, I've seen it numerous times. We also see Mikey having a birthday in one flash back clip in BTTS. And in the TMNT comic book that was brought out by Image. Everyone is celebrating Donnie's 18th birthday with some rather tragic results.

The only reason it would be called a hatching day instead of a birthday is because Turtles hatch from eggs. Mikey's the party guy so it would make sense that he would want to have a birthday party, or any excuse to have a good time.

SonicKnuckles18
04-27-2014, 03:00 AM
I wouldn't mind it. 2 of my favorite episodes from the 2k3 series were flashback episodes to their childhood.

Shiro Kame
05-02-2014, 11:18 AM
It would be interesting in theory, but would it really work? I don't think there would be very much action since they'd have to stay in the sewers due to young age.

Refractive Reflections
05-02-2014, 01:10 PM
The immaturity of the Nick Turtles at this point, already makes them "Tweenage Mutant Ninja Turtles".

1987
05-02-2014, 02:27 PM
The immaturity of the Nick Turtles at this point, already makes them "Tweenage Mutant Ninja Turtles".

exactly true. which is why i said earlier, a "kiddy version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series.

and if your looking for toddler turtles, again, nick is the closest thing.

Wildcat
05-02-2014, 04:32 PM
It would be interesting in theory, but would it really work? I don't think there would be very much action since they'd have to stay in the sewers due to young age.I don't know if you read my whole post or more so my post on this page, above...It does not have to take place entirely in the sewers.

graphic_content
05-03-2014, 10:48 PM
How would you like a new cartoon where they're kids? Like Muppet Babies, Tom and Jerry Kids, Flintstone Kids and A Pup named Scooby Doo.

They wouldn't be babies, I just used Muppet Babies as an example of the different cartoons that have gotten the child-ization treatment. I think it could be really cool seeing them grow up and learn their skills. Humor could be similar to those other shows.

Im not saying there would be a kid version of Shredder or April since that wouldn't add up with them coming out of hiding but obviously thered have to be some bending since it can't all take place in the sewer. Maybe they'd fight playground bullies. They could go out on Halloween and pretend they're trick or treaters. Hey this could even explain them having and knowing of modern conveniences like TV.

I dont mind seeing this as an add-on to the existing series, released in webisode format - stories like combating playground bullies might actually be funny, and great social commentary for children. but i dont think this could stand on its own.

Ninjinister
05-03-2014, 11:24 PM
Wasn't this something Will Tupper once "confirmed" for a season of 2K3? And then it almost happened, sort of, with a Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time sort of dynamic?

BubblyShell22
05-04-2014, 08:25 AM
Yeah, that was when the Turtles were going to meet their kid selves. Luckily, it never got off the ground.

If they do introduce Turtle Tot episodes into the Nick series, I sincerely hope that the VAs don't try to voice themselves as kids. As much as I loved the Turtle Tot eps from 4Kids, hearing the VAs try to do kid voices just was horrendous. I think it would be better if Nick got actual little kids to voice the kid Turtles. But who knows? Maybe the VAs would surprise us. We'll just have to see how it goes.

Lou 500
05-07-2014, 10:25 AM
Forget kids, how about shorts where we see them going about their lives as old guys? This would probably be in a universe like Fast Forward where mutants and aliens are accepted in society and they all have their own apartments; the stories wouldn't just be confined to the sewers and nightime streets.

BubblyShell22
05-08-2014, 08:23 AM
Yeah, I'd love to see them as old men, but I know that'll probably never happen in this lifetime. Ah well, that's what fan fiction is for.

Shark_Blade
05-08-2014, 09:10 AM
We already have them as old guys in Same As It Never Was...

Technogeek29
05-08-2014, 09:21 AM
^ They weren't that old, I think only in their 40's?

Wildcat
05-09-2014, 12:24 AM
Well Ive always wanted to see as older guys who are done with Shredder and such but I brought up the kids thing cause I thought it'd be a cute, fun series similar to the ones I listed.