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Radical Raph
04-11-2014, 08:55 AM
We've seen Shredder twice already and possibly a third time with this new film. What other villains would you like to see that we haven't seen yet? I think Rat King could make a good side villain. And I'd love to see Baxter Stockman and the mousers. You could easily tie those two villains together in the same story.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
04-11-2014, 09:03 AM
actually just replied to your comment on another thread but i will share it here

I am not sure Rat King can sell a movie.....remember you have to look at these movies without the eyes of a fan and more what will bring in the general public crowds.....

and thats not me even talking about how i feel on this film and what i dislike ,just a general movie knowledge selling point...Rat king a great villain yes but works smaller on the small screen and comic pages.


summer block busters want big villains..Shredder,Krangg,Bebop Rocksteady

and with our luck the way these movies work chances are the rat king character would be merged with stockman or something to play off the mousers

also Fichner has signed on for 3 movies so whatever villians we get will be attached to him

Radical Raph
04-11-2014, 09:12 AM
actually just replied to your comment on another thread but i will share it here

I am not sure Rat King can sell a movie.....remember you have to look at these movies without the eyes of a fan and more what will bring in the general public crowds.....

and thats not me even talking about how i feel on this film and what i dislike ,just a general movie knowledge selling point...Rat king a great villain yes but works smaller on the small screen and comic pages.


summer block busters want big villains..Shredder,Krangg,Bebop Rocksteady

and with our luck the way these movies work chances are the rat king character would be merged with stockman or something to play off the mousers

also Fichner has signed on for 3 movies so whatever villians we get will be attached to him
I think Rat King could work similar to what they are doing with Rhino in AMS2. Not a huge presence in the film, but still has a moment in the spotlight. I did not know Fichtner signed on for three films! Well, that is very telling.

graphic_content
04-11-2014, 09:29 AM
I would love to see Krang, and Dimension X - plus some Rock Soldiers...they could really let loose with some weapon-based combat. Im thinking alien invasion ala Avengers.

Radical Raph
04-11-2014, 09:43 AM
I would love to see Krang, and Dimension X - plus some Rock Soldiers...they could really let loose with some weapon-based combat. Im thinking alien invasion ala Avengers.
How about the Triceratons?!

The Boston Ninja Turtle
04-11-2014, 09:43 AM
I think Rat King could work similar to what they are doing with Rhino in AMS2. Not a huge presence in the film, but still has a moment in the spotlight. I did not know Fichtner signed on for three films! Well, that is very telling.

i am not sure rhino is a good example of bringing rat king into the franchise, unless you mean making him a mobster and giving him a huge rat mech

remember util recently Rat King has been a glorified much eviler pied piper

if anything Rat King would work more like Scarecrow in the first Batman begins , a small role with a big character name attached but not the true threat

and again i am not saying that rat kinf is a bad choice but to say do it like rhino is kinda farfetched

look at is this way, when i was in film school every week my teacher had us sell him a movie we like, now the kick was we had to do it as if he had no prior knowledge of the movie or anything it was based off of..a clean slate

try to do that with rat king, think of yourself as that person who knows nothing about tmnt, and sell them the villian without needing to add things to make him sound "cooler'

graphic_content
04-11-2014, 09:46 AM
How about the Triceratons?!

was never really a fan of the Triceratons - but thats simply a matter of personal preference.

The Boston Ninja Turtle
04-11-2014, 09:46 AM
but personally i want slash

Radical Raph
04-11-2014, 09:48 AM
i am not sure rhino is a good example of bringing rat king into the franchise, unless you mean making him a mobster and giving him a huge rat mech

remember util recently Rat King has been a glorified much eviler pied piper

if anything Rat King would work more like Scarecrow in the first Batman begins , a small role with a big character name attached but not the true threat

and again i am not saying that rat kinf is a bad choice but to say do it like rhino is kinda farfetched

look at is this way, when i was in film school every week my teacher had us sell him a movie we like, now the kick was we had to do it as if he had no prior knowledge of the movie or anything it was based off of..a clean slate

try to do that with rat king, think of yourself as that person who knows nothing about tmnt, and sell them the villian without needing to add things to make him sound "cooler'
When I said do it like Rhino, I meant exactly what you said. Make him a villain, but not the main threat. He could even help the turtles which I think has happened a couple times in the original stories.

Evil_Ash
04-11-2014, 10:12 AM
None of them except shredder is big enough to hold the entire movie on it self. But a team-up, Sinister Six style, Slash, Rat King, Baxter and possibly some other all brought together by Agent bishop, that could work.

Warhorse
04-11-2014, 10:30 AM
Bishop. I would think this would be a mutant turtles worst fear. Not being killed by shredder but being caged and watching your brothers getting experimented on and mutilated by the government.

Bob
04-11-2014, 11:19 AM
The main ones I would like to see are Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady. Apart from them, though, I would love to see Leatherhead, Slash, Baxter and the Triceratons.

graphic_content
04-11-2014, 11:44 AM
after the shredder, i think Baxter would be the next natural progression

RaphAndDonnie
04-11-2014, 01:27 PM
Id like to see some cool sidevillians like Baxter (either mutated or unmutated) the Rat King, Utroms (or, hell even all of the Dimension X villains)

Andrew NDB
04-11-2014, 01:29 PM
Rat King, Baxter, and Leatherhead can't really carry their own movies. Supporting cast, sure.

Savanti could carry a movie. A Triceraton excursion and subsequent invasion could carry a movie. Bloodsucker and Old Man River could carry a "The River" movie. Karai and the Shredder Elite could carry a "City at War" movie.

trikuza
04-11-2014, 01:32 PM
The crooked ninja turtle gang lol.

Powder
04-11-2014, 01:35 PM
we need to see an evil, mean, mutated turtle on film.

http://i61.tinypic.com/ndra8p.gif

The Boston Ninja Turtle
04-11-2014, 01:47 PM
Evil I said, not stupid. Tokka was a bonnafide 'tard, with no skill, and no brain.

Evil and Stupid are not the same meaning and are not opposites


what powder gave was exactly what you asked for and Evil Mutant Turtle in a movie

trikuza
04-11-2014, 01:52 PM
They should show the technodrome being built at the end of the second movie and go all out in the third movie with the rock soldier invasion.

Radical Raph
04-11-2014, 02:03 PM
I have a strong feeling that Bebop and Rocksteady in the next film could be some kind of failed experiment. So they create Slash instead. Only Slash will probably be two or three times the size of the turtles.

Andrew NDB
04-11-2014, 02:15 PM
I'm pretty sure you will see the Technodrome in action during the first movie...

They should show the technodrome being built at the end of the second movie and go all out in the third movie with the rock soldier invasion.

Yeah, if you enjoy crap.

http://www.edenproject.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/freaky-nature-with-poo.jpg

trikuza
04-11-2014, 02:22 PM
They would already have the first two movies to fight shredder and some mutants.

If you had the guys that did the graphics of the mother ship in district 9 it wouldn't be that bad.

The turtles have done a lot of sci if ****, it's worth a shot since they have a whole trilogy to play around with anyway.

trikuza
04-11-2014, 02:24 PM
Speaking of poo facts...how about that fake ass movie summary your inside source gave us :D

DevilSpooky
04-11-2014, 07:48 PM
Maybe not yet for a second movie but I wanna see a full force invasion by the Triceratons. Would love to see Slash too, but the Archie Comics one, the Fred Wolf version is an idiot (like any villan in there actually) and don't like his design from IDW or the Nick show.

Sighphi
04-11-2014, 08:20 PM
The Triceratons would probably end up being the size of Godzilla if this type of film. But i would like to see a bunch of animal mutants, if they are going to CGI all this stuff they might as well pump up that animal mutant action.

TigerClaw
04-11-2014, 08:30 PM
The Triceratons would probably end up being the size of Godzilla if this type of film. But i would like to see a bunch of animal mutants, if they are going to CGI all this stuff they might as well pump up that animal mutant action.
Though not a villain but, Leatherhead would be a good fit for a sequel, They could play around an idea about, People reporting seeing a giant Alligator roaming in the sewers. Perhaps the same Mutegen that mutated the Turtles years ago, a Gator could have somehow got in contact with it.

snake
04-11-2014, 09:29 PM
Rat king. Even if the movie sucks, I'll still get a live action Rat King.

Xav
04-11-2014, 10:37 PM
Baxter Stockman, Hun, Bishop, Khan, Chote, Dragon Lord, Pimiko.

MajorViolence
04-13-2014, 09:28 AM
If we were starting from scratch, this would be my ideal:

Film 1: Shredder, the Foot are the main villains. The Purple Dragons play a minor role. Baxter Stockman introduced but killed off before he ever builds a robot body. Shredder is killed at the end, the Foot are scattered.

Film 2: The Rat King is the main villain. Hun leads the Purple Dragons to new heights in the absence of the Foot. Casey Jones is introduced. Rat King forces Splinter to fight by his side. Hun recovers Baxter Stockman (who isn't really dead, but nearly) and helps him create his robot body in exchange for making him design mousers to fight the Rat King's rats. Film ends in a giant 3 way battle between the Purple Dragons/Mousers, the Rat King/Splinter, and the Turtles/Casey. Rat King and Hun are killed. Stockman is freed.

Fm 3: Karai leads a new Foot clan to New York with the intent of avenging her father. Stockman studies the origin of the ooze, uncovering the Utrom invasion that has been in the works for nearly 20 years and plans to open a portal to bring the Technodrome to NYC. Karai and the turtles battle, but have to set their differences aside in the face of a full-on invasion of Utrom. In the process, Karai makes peace with the turtles, and once the Utrom are defeated, they part as friends.

ninja-zero
04-13-2014, 10:56 AM
Please in the first film:

Film 1: Villain - Shredder

Film 2: Villain - Karai, Bebop & Rocksteady

Film 3: Villain - Stockman, Slash & Rahzar

Film 4: Villain - the Krang

sethmartin
04-13-2014, 12:11 PM
I think it would be cool to see Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady in the Technodrome on film. Just like in the 80s show but darker and more serious.

MajorViolence
04-14-2014, 04:55 PM
:lol:

That dog won't hunt.

Why? He's a fantastic villain.

MajorViolence
04-14-2014, 05:11 PM
No, he's a supporting player at best. I truly believe the only villains good enough to carry a film as primary antagonist is Shredder / Foot / Utroms or Krang.

And there goes any value your opinion may have held.

graphic_content
04-17-2014, 12:10 AM
I'd love to see the Elite Foot Ninja...some amazing 4 versus 4 fight scenes...guys that aren't just fodder, but give the turtles a real run for their money.

thebrownranger
04-17-2014, 12:43 AM
Other than The Shredder, Foot Clan, and Karai? Possibly the Rat King, but only as a secondary villain. Would be cool to see the Foot Elite in a movie.

Xav
04-17-2014, 01:00 AM
I could care less if you value my opinion. TMNT movies w/o the Shredder, or the Foot have been lackluster at best. What "movies" are you talking about? The only film that doesn't have the Foot is TMNT 3. But I agree outside of the Foot there aren't many villains that can hold a movie on their own, the Triceratons or Bishop could do it.

MajorViolence
04-17-2014, 09:16 AM
Other than The Shredder, Foot Clan, and Karai? Possibly the Rat King, but only as a secondary villain. Would be cool to see the Foot Elite in a movie.

The Rat King would be an incredible villain in live action. His powers allow him to not only hit the turtles' family where it hurts, but create city-wide chaos for an epic third act action sequence. But yeah, he can't carry a film all by himself, so there would need to be additional elements at play.

graphic_content
04-17-2014, 10:39 AM
The Rat King would be an incredible villain in live action. His powers allow him to not only hit the turtles' family where it hurts, but create city-wide chaos for an epic third act action sequence. But yeah, he can't carry a film all by himself, so there would need to be additional elements at play.

I'm thinking that Baxter and Rat King could be a good on screen pair, if written correctly could have as interesting a dynamic as the joker and two face, a la the dark knight.

Radical Raph
04-17-2014, 10:45 AM
I'm thinking that Baxter and Rat King could be a good on screen pair, if written correctly could have as interesting a dynamic as the joker and two face, a la the dark knight.
If people thing these new turtles are ugly, imagine how hideous Baxter would look once he mutates.

I'd be all for it though. Especially linking his story with the Rat King. They go together like peanut butter and jelly.

graphic_content
04-17-2014, 11:02 AM
If people thing these new turtles are ugly, imagine how hideous Baxter would look once he mutates.

I'd be all for it though. Especially linking his story with the Rat King. They go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Agreed.

I'd also love for them to explore all the backstabbing in that relationship as each side vies for absolute control, it would be interesting to see which of them would actually gain the upper hand...my money goes to Rat King.

Huzzah
04-19-2014, 09:42 PM
Since I would want to play up either the sci-fi or fantasy elements, I would love to see the Triceratons or Savanti (which inevitable leads to Renet being in the film), honestly I think those are about the only ones that could have a mainstream appeal. Why? Because both can involve dinosaurs, and dinosaurs are fantastic.

Pondslider
04-19-2014, 09:43 PM
I've always wanted to see an awesome Mirage-based Baxter Stockman/Mousers movie.

ninja-zero
05-08-2014, 05:25 PM
The villains I believe we can see are besides just Eric Sachs/Shredder...

- Karai (anti-villain)
- Krang
- Baxter Stockman
- Hun & the Purple Dragons

It would also be nice though to see the Tengu/Demon Oroku Saki, the original Shredder. But what if also... Krang would return as the Utrom Shredder?