Someone please put these guys in motion capture turtle suits

[xChri5x]

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[GrapeSoda]

HOLY F*****G S**T!! If THAT was the martial arts fighting in TMNT 2014 I'd eat my Sideshow Zartan with Texas Pete's Hot Sauce!

*eep! edited for 2014 clarity

[discordiatookie]

That was magnificent! Not only mad skills, I could actually see the turtles' personalities during the fight. Brilliant!!

[electric_sheep]

That was crazy good, the sad thing is we won't get anything even close to this in the movie.
Though annoying music, overuse of slow-mo and mismatched soundefects kinda took me out...

[raphmike]

wow all of them doing well cool.

[Refractive Reflections]

What's funny is that in this era of YouTube, there is almost no excuse not being able to find talented individuals who can excel in martial arts as a TMNT film would demand, as this clip proves. AND who would gladly accept a fraction of the income most "big time" performance actors or Hollywood actors demand. But...

But as usual **sigh**, Bay and the staff believes that having 'roided big ol' Turtles (with Raph and Leo), superfluous "cool" apparel, and many, many explosions are all what the public wants.

Who knows, maybe the production staff did find a somewhat decent team of martial arts stunt actors, but it doesn't seem to be a big priority if these Turtles are going to be so huge and hulkish (as we fear). I mean, it almost makes learning martial arts obsolete in a way, if they are so big/strong that they can easily swat these Foot Soldiers like flies.

[turtlefanforever]

that was awesome

[Bry]

This is the BEST.

Seriously - imagine a TMNT movie teaser that was basically just this, but mo-capped? I would be in line right now.

[Puddinpop]

The video was Awesome and id love to see something like that in this TMNT film. Maybe we will : )

[graphic_content]

Who knows, maybe the production staff did find a somewhat decent team of martial arts stunt actors, but it doesn't seem to be a big priority if these Turtles are going to be so huge and hulkish (as we fear).

Hopefully it'll put your mind at ease, it certainly did for me:

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...this is the BIG 3 - a nickname this trio has earned over the past several years for dominating the Martial Arts Tricking scene - TWO of them are listed as stunt doubles for the Turtles:

- Daniel Graham, and Jeremy Marinas

the great thing to me about the CGI Turles is that one can be used for the acting, emoting, voice...but a talented martial artist can be brought in for the movesets (acrobatics, hand to hand combat, weapon use, etc.)

[Cure]

I wasn't feeling it. Dude with the nunchucks swinging at whole lotta nothin'.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Who knows, maybe the production staff did find a somewhat decent team of martial arts stunt actors, but it doesn't seem to be a big priority if these Turtles are going to be so huge and hulkish (as we fear). I mean, it almost makes learning martial arts obsolete in a way, if they are so big/strong that they can easily swat these Foot Soldiers like flies.

from what i have heard the fights wont be done by stunt men, they just thought the actors how to pose

i could only dream that the turtles would move like these 4 in some future form

[snake]

That was awesome. If only the new movie had turtles who fought like that..Or maybe it will, but I highly doubt it.

[Raven]

I was just going to post this! I love Rivens work, check out his naruto and street fighter videos as well!

[samxsteal]

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I seriously posted this in an other thread lol
HOLY F*****G S**T!! If THAT was the martial arts fighting in TMNT 2014 I'd eat my Sideshow Zartan with Texas Pete's Hot Sauce!

*eep! edited for 2014 clarity lol hahah

That was magnificent! Not only mad skills, I could actually see the turtles' personalities during the fight. Brilliant!!I know right i loved this video

That was crazy good, the sad thing is we won't get anything even close to this in the movie.
Though annoying music, overuse of slow-mo and mismatched soundefects kinda took me out...
No see this is what upsets me the most people who assume and say that this wont anything close to this. JUST look up whos doing the stunts for the movie seriously all of the turtles splinter karai and shredders stunt doubles Are just like these guys Seriously I have posted this several times

What's funny is that in this era of YouTube, there is almost no excuse not being able to find talented individuals who can excel in martial arts as a TMNT film would demand, as this clip proves. AND who would gladly accept a fraction of the income most "big time" performance actors or Hollywood actors demand. But...

But as usual **sigh**, Bay and the staff believes that having 'roided big ol' Turtles (with Raph and Leo), superfluous "cool" apparel, and many, many explosions are all what the public wants.

Who knows, maybe the production staff did find a somewhat decent team of martial arts stunt actors, but it doesn't seem to be a big priority if these Turtles are going to be so huge and hulkish (as we fear). I mean, it almost makes learning martial arts obsolete in a way, if they are so big/strong that they can easily swat these Foot Soldiers like flies.
They did they have more then 6 different highly trained Martial artist and Free runners
that was awesome
Seriously
This is the BEST.

Seriously - imagine a TMNT movie teaser that was basically just this, but mo-capped? I would be in line right now.
They have the stunt men I seriously think its coming down to the animating of the turtles thats taking so long.

The video was Awesome and id love to see something like that in this TMNT film. Maybe we will : )I seriously suspect we will.

Hopefully it'll put your mind at ease, it certainly did for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWHI-mMl4jE

...this is the BIG 3 - a nickname this trio has earned over the past several years for dominating the Martial Arts Tricking scene - TWO of them are listed as stunt doubles for the Turtles:

- Daniel Graham, and Jeremy Marinas

the great thing to me about the CGI Turles is that one can be used for the acting, emoting, voice...but a talented martial artist can be brought in for the movesets (acrobatics, hand to hand combat, weapon use, etc.)
Seriously Some one else gets it Ive posted on several occasions all of the great stunt men and women involved posting videos and stunt demos and they do pretty much the EXACT same style and form,

I wasn't feeling it. Dude with the nunchucks swinging at whole lotta nothin'.I thought it technique was quite good(im a "chucker") and very realistic in his application and use of his nunchaku

from what i have heard the fights wont be done by stunt men, they just thought the actors how to pose

i could only dream that the turtles would move like these 4 in some future form
Were have you heard this SMH there is absolutely no evidence of this. what evidence to we have that each of the turtles Splinter Karai Shredder all have great stunt men and women

That was awesome. If only the new movie had turtles who fought like that..Or maybe it will, but I highly doubt it.
They have the stunt people who do just this kind of thing so chances are they will.

[graphic_content]

from what i have heard the fights wont be done by stunt men, they just thought the actors how to pose

i could only dream that the turtles would move like these 4 in some future form

That was awesome. If only the new movie had turtles who fought like that..Or maybe it will, but I highly doubt it.

dont give up hope fellas - i know we havent seen THAT much yet, but check out the vid in my previous post - I can't imagine they would hire these caliber stuntmen to just stand around.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Very nicely done. I'm seeing a few complaints on here, but c'mon, for a YouTube video? Pretty damn sweet.

As someone else noted, I liked that they put in a bit of their representative turtle's personality into it.

[Cure]

I thought it technique was quite good(im a "chucker") and very realistic in his application and use of his nunchaku

Sure, I'm not doubting that at all. It was just boring. Gotta have some flair and pizzazz to keep me interested.

[Allio]

The major thing is, would these guys be able to move in the turtles motion capture suits as they do here (going by what we see from the behind the scenes) no not really, has any of these guys done any suit acting at all

Sure, the video is great, but can they replicate that while wearing the turtle suits

and while I do love the fight scenes, I think the fight scene between Gokai Red and Gavan Bootleg from Gokaiger vs Gavan would work a bit better with the inclusion of the giant motion capture suits

[SwiftNinjaFox]

The major thing is, would these guys be able to move in the turtles motion capture suits as they do here (going by what we see from the behind the scenes) no not really, has any of these guys done any suit acting at all

Sure, the video is great, but can they replicate that while wearing the turtle suits

and while I do love the fight scenes, I think the fight scene between Gokai Red and Gavan Bootleg from Gokaiger vs Gavan would work a bit better with the inclusion of the giant motion capture suits

The suits, absolutely no reason they couldn't with a Mo-Cap suit.

The SHELL, on the other hand..... ;)

[graphic_content]

Sure, I'm not doubting that at all. It was just boring. Gotta have some flair and pizzazz to keep me interested.

i suggest this...

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[Allio]

The suits, absolutely no reason they couldn't with a Mo-Cap suit.

The SHELL, on the other hand..... ;)

You know what I meant

[samxsteal]

You know what I meant

Fact is the guy who played leo in this video is one of the stunt guys wokring on this new TMNT movie so chances are yes they know how to act in the suits (shell and all)

[Puddinpop]

from what i have heard the fights wont be done by stunt men, they just thought the actors how to pose

i could only dream that the turtles would move like these 4 in some future form

Where did you here that? Bc I don't see why they would pay all that money for talented stunt doubles for nothing.

[leotardo]

I think they should just go to china and recruit wushu athletes from beijing wushu team. I mean this is live and not done in multiple takes or so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQYX-oaT2b8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQYX-oaT2b8

Heres the link if the video wont play here. Trust me its worth looking at.

[Chris_a_Bunga]

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WOW that was freaking amazing thanks for posting this!! :tgrin:

[Shark_Blade]

Omg so epic. :o

*passed out*

[electric_sheep]

samxsteal;1254235No see this is what upsets me the most people who assume and say that this wont anything close to this. JUST look up whos doing the stunts for the movie seriously all of the turtles splinter karai and shredders stunt doubles Are just like these guys Seriously I have posted this several times

When you put a giant shell on someone's back and a tight skinsuit there's no way they can move like this alsothe best stuntman in the world can't make a movie good if the director is crap. I can give you a milion expamples but you wouldn't listen.

[samxsteal]

When you put a giant shell on someone's back and a tight skinsuit there's no way they can move like this alsothe best stuntman in the world can't make a movie good if the director is crap. I can give you a milion expamples but you wouldn't listen.

The whole point of mo cap is to be free moving Spandex isn't restrictive now the Shell is a different thing but we haven't seen the stunt actors they might have smaller shells

[Puddinpop]

The whole point of mo cap is to be free moving Spandex isn't restrictive now the Sheryl is a different thing but we haven't seen the stunt actors they might have smaller shells

The guys in the first second and third film wore bulky rubber suits and they seemed to do just fine.

[Kanon]

The guys in the first second and third film wore bulky rubber suits and they seemed to do just fine.

These are solid, big shells.
Can`t imagine someone making a backflip with these things on. :ohwell:
(thinking of the second movie where Leo and Raph have to do some)

[Puddinpop]

These are solid, big shells.
Can`t imagine someone making a backflip with these things on. :ohwell:
(thinking of the second movie where Leo and Raph have to do some)

Ive heard that they are almost foam like inside and that the skin is the important material. The old ones had Fiberglass shells and sometimes thick rubber so id think it would be more difficult to do flips in the old ones no? I also saw a few doubles on set in Mo-cap suits without shells. Either they were other mutants or they were turtle doubles. But I think flips aside, that we will see some good fight scenes.

[chrisdude]

1. We haven't seen set pictures or videos of fight scenes, so why are we assuming what the stunt actors would wear in those scenes?

2. Why the heck would you think they wouldn't take off the shells if they needed to? Do think think they can't record motion without wearing the shell? The shell is probably there for spacing and contact between people and objects. Surely, they can record some flips or spins without the prop, and add the shell later.

Other than the shell, the suit is just spandex. They should be completely uninhibited.

C'mon.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Were have you heard this SMH there is absolutely no evidence of this. what evidence to we have that each of the turtles Splinter Karai Shredder all have great stunt men and women .

not for nothing but i heard it from you dude before the entire thread was shut down originally

[Allio]

The guys in the first second and third film wore bulky rubber suits and they seemed to do just fine.

They did good, but not this level

heck the only time Live Turtles suits had anywhere close to the flexibility/speed of the TMNT Style was the Next Mutation and Space crossover (that one trick Mikey did was awesome)

[Rooish]

That was very cool.

Nunchaku seriously don't seem like they'd be effective against long-range weapons, except to maybe catch them on the chain... what can you do with a nunchaku in a fight against a bo? Or a katana? Or even a sai?

[Xav]

Or a gun? Which is what the bad guys will have in the new film.

[samxsteal]

That was very cool.

Nunchaku seriously don't seem like they'd be effective against long-range weapons, except to maybe catch them on the chain... what can you do with a nunchaku in a fight against a bo? Or a katana? Or even a sai?
you'd be surprised,

So come cops can become masters of certain weapons(mastery) and there is a cop who specializes in Nunchaku, it, there was a video I havent been able to find again about a "ninjustu master" who specializes in nunchaku he has so much control he might as well be swinging a sword and it wielded correctly can have more then enough reach to be on par with a katana. In the video they test his aim and he hits an 100 mph base ball with enough force of a person swinging a bat

Edit so i found it kind of. It was from an ep of Stan lees super human his name is Hiroki,
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[The Fifth Turtle]

:o
That was ****ing epic. First YouTube video I've watched to the end in a long time. So cool. Motion capture suits? f*** it just paint the guys green.

[Allio]

Or a gun? Which is what the bad guys will have in the new film.

Get in close, always move, keep an eye on the barrel

[slingtheory]

This is the BEST.

Seriously - imagine a TMNT movie teaser that was basically just this, but mo-capped? I would be in line right now.

Too true man. Towards the middle of watching this all I was thinking was how cool a teaser trailer it would've made. Something like this would've hyped me up beyond belief

[Candy Kappa]

Good stunt actors, but. Although many, me included are a bit worried the fights are going to be brutes smashing down soldiers. I'm also a bit hesitant that thing might be too flashy. It's fine to have some performance arts in the fight choreography, but too much flips, spins and flashy unnecessary moves can just as we'll be bad. The fight have to look real to an extent, and too much "Wuxia" won't look too good.

[Donatello19]

http://cdn.gifbay.com/2013/04/that_was_totally_wicked-43687.gif

Unfortunately, you have a better chance at winning the lottery than seeing that kind of action in the new movie...

[electric_sheep]

Good stunt actors, but. Although many, me included are a bit worried the fights are going to be brutes smashing down soldiers. I'm also a bit hesitant that thing might be too flashy. It's fine to have some performance arts in the fight choreography, but too much flips, spins and flashy unnecessary moves can just as we'll be bad. The fight have to look real to an extent, and too much "Wuxia" won't look too good.

From what we have seen so far it's all shaky cam, close up. It looks like they will be taking Man of Steel aproach here...

[MsMarvelDuckie]

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you'd be surprised,

So come cops can become masters of certain weapons(mastery) and there is a cop who specializes in Nunchaku, it, there was a video I havent been able to find again about a "ninjustu master" who specializes in nunchaku he has so much control he might as well be swinging a sword and it wielded correctly can have more then enough reach to be on par with a katana. In the video they test his aim and he hits an 100 mph base ball with enough force of a person swinging a bat

Edit so i found it kind of. It was from an ep of Stan lees super human his name is Hiroki,
SGOLTdxT-aI

Can you guys post links to the videos, please? They don't show up on my screen- just blank black squares telling me I need Adobe (I HAVE it, but there is a glitch somewhere that won't play anything but a direct link to you-tube for some reason. Reinstalling doesn't help, either....)

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Unfortunately, you have a better chance at winning the lottery than seeing that kind of action in the new movie...

I have to agree with you. And before others post 'but look at the guys who are working on this film' (like the TMNT Stunts and Martial Arts Thread), just because they have them does not mean they'll be used right, let alone be used that well at all. I'll give an example.

Donnie Yen. Fantastic Martial Artist. But then when they put him in Hollywood flicks like Highlander End Game and Blade 2, he was either underutilized or not used well at all.

But...when you give a guy like that full control? You get stuff like one of the best fights ever:

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Now, if you made a movie where Raphael had a fight scene like Donnie Yen has in this movie? Then I'd be there opening day.

[Shark_Blade]

I reckon the movie turtles will have bullet proof skin though, since they have super strength like shattering bricks, rupturing army truck and swatting soldiers like flies.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I reckon the movie turtles will have bullet proof skin though, since they have super strength like shattering bricks, rupturing army truck and swatting soldiers like flies.


If they have bulletproof skin, then what would make them vulnerable? There would be no suspense or no threat to them, which is an appealing part of the Turtles because they don't have super powers and can die in a street fight just as easily as you or me.

[chrisdude]

I reckon the movie turtles will have bullet proof skin though, since they have super strength like shattering bricks, rupturing army truck and swatting soldiers like flies.
If they have bulletproof skin, then what would make them vulnerable? There would be no suspense or no threat to them, which is an appealing part of the Turtles because they don't have super powers and can die in a street fight just as easily as you or me.
If Raph can wreck a vehicle with his shell, we can assume it's pretty darn close to bulletproof.

But surely, the turtles will face and enemy who gives them a run for their money. People make mistakes with movies, but no one is going to tell a story where the hero isnt matched by the enemy. That's not going to happen.


Also, Flashpoint is my ish.

[samxsteal]

I have to agree with you. And before others post 'but look at the guys who are working on this film' (like the TMNT Stunts and Martial Arts Thread), just because they have them does not mean they'll be used right, let alone be used that well at all. I'll give an example.

Donnie Yen. Fantastic Martial Artist. But then when they put him in Hollywood flicks like Highlander End Game and Blade 2, he was either underutilized or not used well at all.

But...when you give a guy like that full control? You get stuff like one of the best fights ever:

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Now, if you made a movie where Raphael had a fight scene like Donnie Yen has in this movie? Then I'd be there opening day.
I don't really feel like High lander and Blade II are anywhere near what tmnt is and likely to be

I reckon the movie turtles will have bullet proof skin though, since they have super strength like shattering bricks, rupturing army truck and swatting soldiers like flies.
IDK i think the jury is still out on this one i mean yeah its what the trailer seems to show but i have a feeling the turtles will be very Vulnerable I mean Raph has a huge bandage on his back and his sai are bent in t picture So maybe the Hummer seen didn't play out like everyone thinks


If they have bulletproof skin, then what would make them vulnerable? There would be no suspense or no threat to them, which is an appealing part of the Turtles because they don't have super powers and can die in a street fight just as easily as you or me.
as above i think there is something that happens to raph. what it is when it happens and how severe it is, is still unknown
If Raph can wreck a vehicle with his shell, we can assume it's pretty darn close to bulletproof.

But surely, the turtles will face and enemy who gives them a run for their money. People make mistakes with movies, but no one is going to tell a story where the hero isnt matched by the enemy. That's not going to happen.


Also, Flashpoint is my ish.
Agreed

[Rooish]

you'd be surprised,

So come cops can become masters of certain weapons(mastery) and there is a cop who specializes in Nunchaku, it, there was a video I havent been able to find again about a "ninjustu master" who specializes in nunchaku he has so much control he might as well be swinging a sword and it wielded correctly can have more then enough reach to be on par with a katana. In the video they test his aim and he hits an 100 mph base ball with enough force of a person swinging a bat

Edit so i found it kind of. It was from an ep of Stan lees super human his name is Hiroki,
SGOLTdxT-aI

Okay, that was insane. I wish we could see Mikey do that more! I guess he hasn't had 30 years training though!

[samxsteal]

Okay, that was insane. I wish we could see Mikey do that more! I guess he hasn't had 30 years training though!

Even the nunchaku Martial artists working on this movie are great though seriously awesome guys.

[DevilSpooky]

People are complaining about Raph and the humvee, but on the original Mirage comics one of the turtles survived being killed with a gun because he managed to turn around and the bullet hit the shell and didn't harm him.

On the Archie comics they all survived an explosion by retreating inside their shells.

Point is, it might not be believable, but nothing they didn't do before.

[samxsteal]

People are complaining about Raph and the humvee, but on the original Mirage comics one of the turtles survived being killed with a gun because he managed to turn around and the bullet hit the shell and didn't harm him.

On the Archie comics they all survived an explosion by retreating inside their shells.

Point is, it might not be believable, but nothing they didn't do before.

Agreed Plus all the crazy things from through out all the turleverses

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

But surely, the turtles will face and enemy who gives them a run for their money. People make mistakes with movies, but no one is going to tell a story where the hero isnt matched by the enemy. That's not going to happen.

Well, Hulk vs. Loki in The Avengers didn't seem too matched up :) I like the Avengers but Loki was a pretty weak villain when compared to all of the heroes in The Avengers.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

He wasn't physically powerful because he didn't NEED to be. His threat was all about control, not brute strength. He had an army backing him up, doing anything he wanted, and he was manipulating the Avengers for half the movie. THAT's his strength- his ability to control and magically mess with others. It's what makes him a very dangerous villain. Yes, he was outmatch physically by Hulk- but so is everyone ELSE!!

[Puddinpop]

He wasn't physically powerful because he didn't NEED to be. His threat was all about control, not brute strength. He had an army backing him up, doing anything he wanted, and he was manipulating the Avengers for half the movie. THAT's his strength- his ability to control and magically mess with others. It's what makes him a very dangerous villain. Yes, he was outmatch physically by Hulk- but so is everyone ELSE!!

All hail the Avengers. The most amazing well balanced superhero film I have ever seen. Imo.. that movie should be a staple for other superhero films the way TDKR seems to be. I cant wait for the second one next year. As for TMNT? Its a fact that there are some extremely talented martial artist that were hired for this film even thought some will try to deny it. That's fine. We are days away from getting a new trailer, hopefully seeing the TURTLES fighting will actually ease some of the concern... but I doubt it lol. I for one believe Eastman when he says that we are all in for a pleasant surprise.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

All hail the Avengers. The most amazing well balanced superhero film I have ever seen. Imo.. that movie should be a staple for other superhero films the way TDKR seems to be. I cant wait for the second one next year. As for TMNT? Its a fact that there are some extremely talented martial artist that were hired for this film even thought some will try to deny it. That's fine. We are days away from getting a new trailer, hopefully seeing the TURTLES fighting will actually ease some of the concern... but I doubt it lol. I for one believe Eastman when he says that we are all in for a pleasant surprise.

Pretty sure Avengers is currently the bar for super hero movies. What I felt it did so well, and TMNT in particular needs to emulate, is it didn't feel like "Iron Man and the Avengers" or "Captain America and the Avengers." The characters were all well presented and shared screen time. It was a TEAM movie.

[Puddinpop]

Pretty sure Avengers is currently the bar for super hero movies. What I felt it did so well, and TMNT in particular needs to emulate, is it didn't feel like "Iron Man and the Avengers" or "Captain America and the Avengers." The characters were all well presented and shared screen time. It was a TEAM movie.

Agree 100 %. I hope they don't totally sideline any characters

[samxsteal]

Pretty sure Avengers is currently the bar for super hero movies. What I felt it did so well, and TMNT in particular needs to emulate, is it didn't feel like "Iron Man and the Avengers" or "Captain America and the Avengers." The characters were all well presented and shared screen time. It was a TEAM movie.

Except hawkeye

[GeneralTragg]

If they have bulletproof skin, then what would make them vulnerable? There would be no suspense or no threat to them, which is an appealing part of the Turtles because they don't have super powers and can die in a street fight just as easily as you or me.

You forget, the movie is all about megan fox, the suspense comes because the turtles may be semi-invulnerable mini hulks, but they might not be able to protect April if there are too many explosions...

[mikedrummer27]

That wad really cool. Lookin forward to this new movie comin out, see what they can pull off!

[Warhorse]

You know, the animatronics world has come a long way. Check out this demon baby, I could totally see something like this being used for the Turtle's faces.

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[samxsteal]

You know, the animatronics world has come a long way. Check out this demon baby, I could totally see something like this being used for the Turtle's faces.

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Really? nothing agains that but thats not very good IMO there are far better thing out there But i get what you saying. Still doesn't stop the fact that in order to get the fluidity Mocap is the far better option Now maybe mixing Mocap with Animatronic could work but that would mean a much larger budget and Post production time.

[Warhorse]

Really? nothing agains that but thats not very good IMO there are far better thing out there But i get what you saying. Still doesn't stop the fact that in order to get the fluidity Mocap is the far better option Now maybe mixing Mocap with Animatronic could work but that would mean a much larger budget and Post production time.

That was just from some amateurs. Anyways, animatronics and CGI worked beautifully for Jurassic Park, don't see why it couldn't with TMNT.

[Puddinpop]

That was just from some amateurs. Anyways, animatronics and CGI worked beautifully for Jurassic Park, don't see why it couldn't with TMNT.

Well the dinosaurs aren't moving around like a ninja turtle would.. I guess.. I think when you put all of the factors into one pot " The character design , the fluidity mobility and intensity of the CGI characters" I think CGI was the right call to make. For example.. when Leo flipped off of the water tower.. CGI makes all of these things possible. A lot of films do it these days. Marvel films use a good amount of CGI. GOTG looks like a CGI fest as well. But imo the CGI is what will make all of those planets and characters look cool.

[Warhorse]

Well the dinosaurs aren't moving around like a ninja turtle would.. I guess.. I think when you put all of the factors into one pot " The character design , the fluidity mobility and intensity of the CGI characters" I think CGI was the right call to make. For example.. when Leo flipped off of the water tower.. CGI makes all of these things possible. A lot of films do it these days. Marvel films use a good amount of CGI. GOTG looks like a CGI fest as well. But imo the CGI is what will make all of those planets and characters look cool.

But, I still think it could be cool to use the combinations in future movies.

And I still can't believe they don't have Ray Park in this. Can't believe it. He would be the first one I would have cast.

[samxsteal]

That was just from some amateurs. Anyways, animatronics and CGI worked beautifully for Jurassic Park, don't see why it couldn't with TMNT.

They could have they choose not too. Meh. It wasn't from amateurs it was an advertisement(prank) for a movie.

But the mixing of both CGI and Animatronics Takes more resources and a larger budget.

[Puddinpop]

But, I still think it could be cool to use the combinations in future movies.

And I still can't believe they don't have Ray Park in this. Can't believe it. He would be the first one I would have cast.

Ill agree with that. Jurassic Park was one of my favorite films and def. proves that when done right Animatronics can work well. In Jurassic World they are using Animatronics, I cant WAIT for that film next year

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Jurassic park still surprises me to this day...not only did they use animatronics but also Puppets but Men and women in Raptor Costumes

CGI was only used when needed...in todays world it has become kind of a crutch

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That was just from some amateurs. Anyways, animatronics and CGI worked beautifully for Jurassic Park, don't see why it couldn't with TMNT.

When Turtles was first announced, I read an article stating that they were going to go the route of 'Where the Wild Things Are'...modern robotics/animatronics enhanced by CGI, and I was totally onboard - dont get me wrong, I love the aesthetic of the Turtles we got, but was bummed they ultimately went full-CGI.

But, I still think it could be cool to use the combinations in future movies.

And I still can't believe they don't have Ray Park in this. Can't believe it. He would be the first one I would have cast.

real talk...RAY PARK is very talented. and nothing against the guy, his Darth Maul is super memorable, but the martial arts 'trickers' that are coming up in the stunt guy scene, blow him out of the water. Hollywood's early exposure to 'tricking' came because of wushu talented guys, mainly Ray Park, who paved the way, but the guys coming up since that time are taking what hes done, and enhanced it by leaps and bounds. just watch the vids on the TMNT STUNTS threads, and you'll see stuff the Ray does AND MORE. I love Ray Park, and if he casted as IRON FIST, it'll be a good day indeed, but there are better 'trickers' out there.

[samxsteal]

When Turtles was first announced, I read an article stating that they were going to go the route of 'Where the Wild Things Are'...modern robotics/animatronics enhanced by CGI, and I was totally onboard - dont get me wrong, I love the aesthetic of the Turtles we got, but was bummed they ultimately went full-CGI.The biggest problem with this is that in order to use both you having to increasing your budget and time to blend the two seamlessly you can do it and its much easier to do now and days but, it much easier to pick one over the other and focus on one. and really after seeing movie like avatar and Rise of the planet of the apes you can create something that amazing. and more fluid



real talk...RAY PARK is very talented. and nothing against the guy, his Darth Maul is super memorable, but the martial arts 'trickers' that are coming up in the stunt guy scene, blow him out of the water. Hollywood's early exposure to 'tricking' came because of wushu talented guys, mainly Ray Park, who paved the way, but the guys coming up since that time are taking what hes done, and enhanced it by leaps and bounds. just watch the vids on the TMNT STUNTS threads, and you'll see stuff the Ray does AND MORE. I love Ray Park, and if he casted as IRON FIST, it'll be a good day indeed, but there are better 'trickers' out there.
he really is great but you're right i mean even the guys working on this movie have approved upon what he has done. Him as Iron fist would be great

[Warhorse]

real talk...RAY PARK is very talented. and nothing against the guy, his Darth Maul is super memorable, but the martial arts 'trickers' that are coming up in the stunt guy scene, blow him out of the water. Hollywood's early exposure to 'tricking' came because of wushu talented guys, mainly Ray Park, who paved the way, but the guys coming up since that time are taking what hes done, and enhanced it by leaps and bounds. just watch the vids on the TMNT STUNTS threads, and you'll see stuff the Ray does AND MORE. I love Ray Park, and if he casted as IRON FIST, it'll be a good day indeed, but there are better 'trickers' out there.

Disagree, I think Park is the best in the business.