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turtlefanforever
04-29-2014, 01:34 PM
A rocky spinoff called 'Creed' has just been announced. Stallone will be in it playing Balboa but it is centered around Apollo creeds grandson
MikeandRaph87
04-29-2014, 03:11 PM
This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/rocky-spin-off-creed-works-report-article-1.1407895
Whatswiththeheadbands?
04-29-2014, 03:15 PM
This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/rocky-spin-off-creed-works-report-article-1.1407895
I personally think that Rocky Balboa finished it off perfectly.
Saying that though, I'm interested to see how they might pull off this spinoff.
chrisdude
04-29-2014, 03:32 PM
I'm down. I think Rocky V was the best ending, but I see the merit in Rocky Balboa, and I think that was a solid ending, too. As long as Rocky stays out of the ring, I have no objections with this idea.
DonnyMac
04-29-2014, 07:52 PM
I heard about this last year, this could be an interesting idea, but after the end of Rocky Balboa, which I loved, I don't think we need anymore Rocky movies, spinoff or not
turtlefanforever
06-30-2015, 08:07 PM
first trailer released. Not interested in it.
PangolinFeets
06-30-2015, 08:18 PM
Oh look. I found it. :p
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I'm a sucker for boxing movies and I love the idea of Rocky training Apollo's son. Looking forward to this.
MikeandRaph87
06-30-2015, 08:27 PM
I just found it on Youtube. It looks okay, nothing special. I remember in the months before Rocky VI/Balboa hit theatres there were rumors that Mason Dixon was Apollo's son. Then this project materialized. I love the Rocky series its just one of those examples of a franchise not knowing when to stop.
I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.
Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie..
turtlefanforever
06-30-2015, 08:50 PM
I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.
Tarver might do it. Tarver just came out of retirement actually. is going to be fighting on Spike PBC
MikeandRaph87
06-30-2015, 09:03 PM
I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.
Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie..
Apollo died in 1985. he had an elementary aged son and daughter at the time with his wife. Michael B. Jordan is my age, born in 1987, two years later so the actor would have to play older than he is. One thing to keep in mind is when Rock 5 begins he, Adrian, and Paulie are still in Russia yet five years real time and seemingly around their bubble five years real time passed as their son had aged about five years. However, Robert was born in late 1979 and the movie takes place in 1990. Robert in Rocky 5 is clearly 13/14 in the film so you can through time passage out the window with the Rocky series chronology especially between films.
oldmanwinters
06-30-2015, 09:13 PM
I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year.
Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer.
Also, Stallone is SO OLD.
MikeandRaph87
06-30-2015, 09:21 PM
I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year.
Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer.
Also, Stallone is SO OLD.
Do you think it may not be real time but set a few years back? It make it a bit more believable. Rocky Balboa came out in late 2006. Lets say this film takes place in 2007 and Apollo's son watches the fight he had with Mason Dixon and seeks him out to train him in response perhaps Duke would send him? Its a small stretch but not as much of one as it could presented in the film.
Purse Grabbin Puke
07-03-2015, 01:37 PM
First of all, I love the Rocky movies so very much. I think Creed looks amazing.
Now to the age debate. Apollo's wife could have been pregnant when he died in Rocky IV. So that would have him born '86 or '87. Now, even if they don't go that route, the Rocky movies have thrown out any and all continuity when it comes to the passage of time. Rocky II Rocky Jr is born, in Rocky III he's a small child, in Rocky IV he's about 3 or 4 years old. Rocky V opens with Rocky returning to America after Fighting Drago in Rocky IV and Rocky Jr is now 12 or 13. So it does not matter when he was born because they've already changed the timeline way worse than they could possibly do for Creed.
BubblyShell22
07-03-2015, 03:58 PM
This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him.
Purse Grabbin Puke
07-04-2015, 01:04 AM
This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him.
The actor you're talking about is Michael B. Jordan, and he's great. He starred in a fantastic movie "Fruitvale Station" which was also written and directed by the same writer/director as Creed. You should watch that movie, once you do, you'll have faith that Creed will be a good movie.
Autbot_Benz
09-14-2015, 09:41 PM
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New Trailer It looks like Paulie is dead in this movie since this trailer shows his tombstone next to Adrian's
MikeandRaph87
09-14-2015, 10:12 PM
Its like a tradition killing characters off one by one. Paulie died in February 2012. I would have minded him being killed off in Rocky 5. It also confirms he is Apollo's second son who was born after Apollo died. Not crazy about this. Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago.
chrisdude
09-14-2015, 11:07 PM
Personally, I don't think the series has ever gone wrong. Every sequel tells a different and significant part of Rocky's story. It's never just a rehash, it's always a new challenge. I figured Stallone would only do another movie if it kept to that tradition, and I'm glad to see that is the case.
The only real question is whether they'll keep Rocky alive for a whole trilogy.
Leo656
09-15-2015, 12:37 AM
Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago.
No. No, no. Not ever.
When YOU punch Communism to death with your bare (gloved) hands, then you can tell people when to hang 'em up, tough guy.
MsMarvelDuckie
09-15-2015, 12:52 AM
Are we talking about the same Michael B. Jordan who was just in the FF movie? Cause he was pretty lackluster to me. Well, to be honest, they all were, but he was no better than anyone else in it. Hope he's better as a boxer than as Storm....
Leo656
09-15-2015, 01:25 AM
He strikes me as the type who would be good in some things, but not especially that thing. As such, he'll likely do better in this thing.
Frankly, I just want a whole movie of Stallone doing the Rocky "gimmick". F*ck any boxing scenes, I just wanna see him walk around and "Be Rocky", saying all that ridiculous sh*t he says, for two solid hours. :lol: "Y'know, like, da t'ing is, yoo no, Mick, see he taught me lotta 'bout fightin', but see he also taught me lotta 'bout buildin' birdhouses. An da t'ing 'bout buildin' birdhouses, is like, yoo gotta remember that yoo ain't buildin' this puhticular house for yuhself, yoo know? Like, yoo gotta re-membuh, like, it ain't about what yoo like, it's about what duh birds like, and that most probably ain't gonna be duh same kinda thing, y'see whut I'm sayin'? Yoo almost kinda gotta like t'ink like a bird, y'know, a little bit sometimes. Also, yoo gotta remember not ta do like I did and hang it up inna garage, else you'se ain't gonna get a lotta dem birds. See I foun' dat out da hard way, but now I'm tellin' you so's you don't make the same mistake. An' also, one other t'ing is, if you don' like birds, you's can get one'a dem little teeny dogs, or like a ferret or a muskrat, y'know? Stick a ferret inna birdhouse. They don' know. Mickey taught me lotsa' tings."
I'd just die.
MsMarvelDuckie
09-15-2015, 01:04 PM
OMG!! :teek::tlol::trazz::trolleye:
ROFLMAO, that was hilarious! I actually heard Stallone's voice while reading that, and I gotta tell ya, you do a GREAT Rocky! Also, now I want to hear YOU doing his voice, just 'cause. But yeah, that would be a seriously funny movie.
TheSkeletonMan939
09-15-2015, 02:23 PM
Frankly, I just want a whole movie of Stallone doing the Rocky "gimmick". F*ck any boxing scenes, I just wanna see him walk around and "Be Rocky", saying all that ridiculous sh*t he says, for two solid hours.
I actually feel like that's what Rocky Balboa was. Very little boxing-related activity until the end, most of it has to do with his relationships with his son and Paulie, saying stuff like that.
MikeandRaph87
09-15-2015, 07:31 PM
Leo, why not have Sly go to a convention and go into Rocky mode not far from how Hamill often goes Joker at conventions? I also agree with Skeletonkey. There was that akward relationship with the girl he told not to smoke 30 years before too.:P
It is surprising that Duke will not show up in the film. He would be Adonis' step-grandfather after all.If only to present rbe iconic trunks and give the seal of approval before tbe fight in Apollo's place.
oldmanwinters
09-15-2015, 08:14 PM
Frankly, I just want a whole movie of Stallone doing the Rocky "gimmick". F*ck any boxing scenes, I just wanna see him walk around and "Be Rocky", saying all that ridiculous sh*t he says, for two solid hours. :lol: "Y'know, like, da t'ing is, yoo no, Mick, see he taught me lotta 'bout fightin', but see he also taught me lotta 'bout buildin' birdhouses. An da t'ing 'bout buildin' birdhouses, is like, yoo gotta remember that yoo ain't buildin' this puhticular house for yuhself, yoo know? Like, yoo gotta re-membuh, like, it ain't about what yoo like, it's about what duh birds like, and that most probably ain't gonna be duh same kinda thing, y'see whut I'm sayin'? Yoo almost kinda gotta like t'ink like a bird, y'know, a little bit sometimes. Also, yoo gotta remember not ta do like I did and hang it up inna garage, else you'se ain't gonna get a lotta dem birds. See I foun' dat out da hard way, but now I'm tellin' you so's you don't make the same mistake. An' also, one other t'ing is, if you don' like birds, you's can get one'a dem little teeny dogs, or like a ferret or a muskrat, y'know? Stick a ferret inna birdhouse. They don' know. Mickey taught me lotsa' tings."
I'd just die.
Heh, that about sums it up for me too.
Eat Snails? Why would you wanna do that?
Condominiums? Consequently, I never use em.
Dr. Terminus
09-15-2015, 08:26 PM
I don't think Rocky has misstepped when it comes to execution of each film. People have their gripes with certain movies in the Rocky franchise, sure, but when you're telling a story spanning 40 years and several decades, doesn't hitting the mark more often than missing it count for something? It looks like the perfect completion of the Rocky story.
Leo656
09-15-2015, 09:21 PM
You definitely do wanna hear my Rocky. I do wicked impressions and he's one of my better ones. I think I'll get around do sticking one on Facebook one'a these days, at which point I'll share it here.
I f*cking LOVE Rocky. Those movies are religion in THIS f*cking house. F*ck, one time like TBS or some sh*t did a Christmas Day Rocky Marathon when I was like 12 or 13, sh*t had me doing push-ups outside in the snow. I worship the Italian Stallion the way Jesuits worship Christ.
It's like that.
turtlefanforever
09-15-2015, 09:39 PM
You definitely do wanna hear my Rocky. I do wicked impressions and he's one of my better ones. I think I'll get around do sticking one on Facebook one'a these days, at which point I'll share it here.
I f*cking LOVE Rocky. Those movies are religion in THIS f*cking house. F*ck, one time like TBS or some sh*t did a Christmas Day Rocky Marathon when I was like 12 or 13, sh*t had me doing push-ups outside in the snow. I worship the Italian Stallion the way Jesuits worship Christ.
It's like that.
Do you have the channel ION? they do rocky marathons ALL THE TIME
MsMarvelDuckie
09-15-2015, 09:45 PM
Only for the past month, and only on the weekends. I know, we've been subjected to them for the past THREE WEEKS!!!
Leo656
09-15-2015, 09:52 PM
Yup yup, we been watching those too. Although I have the box set so it's kinda whatever, but I do usually put Rocky on whenever it's on over other things.
It is completely, physically, scientifically impossible, to hear that drum machine blast in, that bass line, the kick of that synthesizer, and Robert Tepper's voice go "We're not indestruuuuuuuct-abuuuuuul...." and NOT suddenly want to lift weights and hit things. You MUST stop whatever else you're doing to lift weights and hit things. I love it. Watch me be the first and only guy to have "No Easy Way Out" played at his funeral. :lol: I'll do it, I swear I will!
MikeandRaph87
09-15-2015, 10:12 PM
I put together the Ultimate Rocky playlist using songs from all movies and few that should have been and play it on my andriod when I work out which about 3 to 4 hours a week.
Leo, Darth Vadar is my best impression. Maybe one day Rocky Balboa and Darth Vadar can hold a conversation. That would be fun.
What would be funnier than No Easy Way Out would be The Final Countdown which is a Rockesque song in my book.
Leo656
09-15-2015, 10:33 PM
MY faaaaaavorite bit, that leaves my wife in tears, is Rocky and Paulie having a loud drunken argument. I can do both voices spot-on, and can switch on a dime, so it comes out pretty neat. :tgrin: I should seriously record this. My wife always bugs me to do it but it's kind of a spontaneous thing. :lol:
MikeandRaph87
09-15-2015, 10:47 PM
The start of Rocky 3 after Paulie is freed by Rocky from jail?Maybe you could recite the deleted scene from Rocky Balboa when Paulie breaks down over missing Adrian after getting laid off from the meat packing plant.
I can do a near perfect Darth Vadar and Vito Carleone. If you ever go to the Heroes Con we could make some interesting dialog recordings.
Admit it, you would probably ask to go out to Jimi Hendrix just like any NwO faithful.
Guitar_Raph
09-15-2015, 10:56 PM
Hokey smokes! I thought this was about the Rocky who fought Boris & Natasha with Bullwinkle!
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Leo656
09-15-2015, 11:04 PM
It's kinda like that, MikeandRaph, except they're both also cursing at each other and occasionally using various Italian ethnic slurs. It's one'a those bits that kills at the holiday gatherings when everybody's all half-drunk and goofy.
I also randomly throw in Mickey yelling "YOU DUMB DAGO!" from the first movie. :lol: Ohhhh myyyy gaaaaahhhhhhhd that was amazing. :lol: That sh*t kills me every single time. He really threw all of himself into that line, I swear. :lol: Terrific. Terrific.
Mickey and Rocky arguing is like, the most aggressive bit I do. I don't always do that one around the kids. :lol: It's just plain filthy, but it gets laughs. They die at the end where Mickey's all, "Talk t'me like that again you dumb sonuvabitch an' I'll be crappin' thunder on yer f*ckin' tombstone!" Sometimes I barely get it out. But hooo boy. I tell ya, man. I tell ya.
Admit it. You only like Rocky because of Thunderlips. lololol
Leo656
09-15-2015, 11:32 PM
That is precisely why I first watched it when I was 6 or whatever, yes. It's pretty incidental to the fact I immediately went back to the store and rented the other 4 movies, because holy sh*t Rocky is amazing, especially when you're 6 and you believe a man can single-handedly beat up an entire country, symbolically, as long as there's enough bass and drums during the montage.
I have friends who have never seen Rocky and refuse to ever watch it, because "they hate boxing and boxing movies." Makes ME wanna smack THEM around, I swear. I'm like "It's not even abooooouuuut that, really," but it's like talking to a wall to anyone who hasn't already given it a chance. They're usually the kind of people who, their entire lives would change for the better immediately JUST after they took that one step, so that gets annoying.
I still need to get the collection. I'm tired of this Netflix "We'll show them all for 2 months and then take them back off, but no sixth movie at all" crap.
Leo656
09-15-2015, 11:44 PM
I'unno who Netflix is, but they sound like a coupl'a bastids.
I swear I seen the box set for like $20. People should just get the Rocky set in the mail when the phone book comes. I mean who the f*ck even looks at it anymore, right? Nobody! You could be giving people something they might actually make use of.
It's the WWE Network before the WWE Network.
chrisdude
09-16-2015, 01:26 AM
The year I discovered Rocky, that box set was all I asked for for Christmas.
Leo656
09-16-2015, 01:41 AM
What's awesome is, not only did my wife get me the Rocky set one Christmas, she got me the Rambo set one Valentine's Day. :lol:
Now all you need is The Expendables set for Halloween. lol
turtlefanforever
11-16-2015, 01:00 PM
Anybody going this thanksgiving?
Mona_Lisa
11-16-2015, 03:22 PM
This is cool, Even though I'm a 80's and 90's kid, I never watched Rocky until I was a married adult. Me and my husband watched them all, and loved them all with the exception of Rocky 5 (I think it was). Rocky Balboa Was Awesome too, I will defiantly be watching this although the music in the preview isn't my cup of tea.
Andrew NDB
11-16-2015, 03:41 PM
with the exception of Rocky 5 (I think it was). Rocky Balboa Was Awesome too,
The thing about Rocky 5 is, Rocky Balboa retroactively both makes it much more watchable and even necessary.
Can't wait to see Creed. Though where the hell is Rocky's son? And it's a bit much if both Duke AND Paulie died between films... so where's Duke? He should have some hand in training Apollo's kid.
chrisdude
11-16-2015, 07:00 PM
I like Rocky 5. More than 3 or Balboa, anyway. I can definately understand why it wouldn't have been a satisfying ending, though.
Leo656
11-16-2015, 09:56 PM
I never didn't like Rocky V, but I agree with what Andrew said that it's more important now.
I'd personally be fine with Rocky fighting Kang and Kodos on the f*cking Moon, though. I'm one'a THOSE Rocky fans. :trazz:
shuriken
11-18-2015, 06:00 PM
My least favorite was always Rocky 4 as its just one long music video during the height of the cold war and 80's over the top ridiculousness.
Ranked from worst to best (IMO) Are
Rocky-4
Rocky-5 I get what it was trying to do, execution was the thing I didn't like.
Rocky-3 Great sequel in that it tells a new story with a very easy staring point. Lots of neat scenes and a great villain in Clubber Lang.
Rocky-6 (Balboa) Kinda depressing at times but it works and is a fine ending point of the series.
Rocky-2- Really enjoyed ow they went about doing the re-match setup and Creed taking on a more antagonistic role.
Rocky- This one does a lot of things right, one of my fave movies ever. Micky is easily one of the most complex and flawed movie characters ever and I love him for it.
As for Creed, yeah I'll watch it. Hell I watched Grudge match and Expendibles in theater so why the hell not.
Andrew NDB
11-18-2015, 06:15 PM
I never didn't like Rocky V, but I agree with what Andrew said that it's more important now.
Yeah, there's no way to go straight from Rocky IV to Rocky Balboa without what happens in V. It brings Rocky back down to earth and sets the stage for where we find him in Rocky Balboa.
Leo656
11-20-2015, 01:40 AM
My least favorite was always Rocky 4 as its just one long music video during the height of the cold war and 80's over the top ridiculousness.
Don't you dare say that like it's a bad thing.
F*ck you, now you don't get a Birthday this year.
chrisdude
11-26-2015, 10:43 PM
Did anybody see it? My buddy and I thought it was pretty awesome. I intend to drag my dad to it, tomorrow. The reviews are great, too, if you care about that kind of thing.
CyberCubed
11-26-2015, 10:46 PM
I think the only Rocky movie I've ever seen was the one where he fights the Russian guy. Should I watch all the others?
MikeandRaph87
11-26-2015, 10:59 PM
I think the only Rocky movie I've ever seen was the one where he fights the Russian guy. Should I watch all the others?
You already know every patriotic American and film buff must watch the awesomeness that by Rocky! You are missing out on so much, Cubed. Its time Leo656 cultured you on the greatest cinematic sports hero of all-time.
Leo656
11-27-2015, 08:24 PM
When people tell me they haven't seen all the Rocky movies it always takes me a little while to choke down the taste of disgust before I can meaningfully communicate with them again.
Something tells me Cubed would find the first film boring. Call it a hunch.
MikeandRaph87
11-27-2015, 08:32 PM
"Get up and go buy the DVD you sonvamicrochip, because Leo loves ya!"-Leo656
That sums it up. :P
Since I am not into the concept of Creed tell me one thing, where the heck is his step grandfather Duke Creed and what did Paulie die from? That is all that really interest me.
I plan on checking it out tomorrow. Updates soon (that is, if I go. lol).
CyberCubed
11-28-2015, 01:19 AM
How many Rocky movies are there? They've been making these since the 80's right? Usually a movie series with this many sequels tends to go downhill so is the quality consistent?
The Terminator and Alien franchise sure wasn't kept good by multiple sequels.
ZariusTwo
11-28-2015, 02:23 AM
How many Rocky movies are there? They've been making these since the 80's right? Usually a movie series with this many sequels tends to go downhill so is the quality consistent?
The Terminator and Alien franchise sure wasn't kept good by multiple sequels.
There's been seven in total if you count "Creed"
Rocky V is considered the worst. Rocky IV is cheese personified but has been elevated to godhood by the fandom.
shuriken
11-28-2015, 05:27 AM
^^Essentially
Don't you dare say that like it's a bad thing.
F*ck you, now you don't get a Birthday this year.
Damnit. I was looking forward to 27...
Hey I'll watch the hell out of it and I find it entertaining (Cobra, Over the Top and Tango and Cash are worse and I'll still watch em) but compared to the rest it's just not as good.
BTW Creed is pretty damn good.
chrisdude
11-28-2015, 07:45 PM
"Get up and go buy the DVD you sonvamicrochip, because Leo loves ya!"-Leo656
That sums it up. :P
Since I am not into the concept of Creed tell me one thing, where the heck is his step grandfather Duke Creed and what did Paulie die from? That is all that really interest me.
1. If you mean Duke, the trainer, he's not related to Apollo. I figure he's dead. But his son is a trainer in the movie.
2. They didn't say.
MikeandRaph87
11-28-2015, 07:51 PM
Duke refers to Apollo as an adopted son. I always took it that Duke took part in raising Apollo not similar to the Rocky/ Micky relationship. It just feels like the younger Creed son would have gone to Duke first or at least mentioned that Duke sent him to Rocky.
Just show the grave next to Adrians', huh?
Thanks.
Just curious, did anyone else learn of Rocky due to Michelangelo's impersonation of him in the 1990 film? Being a preschooler thrn I was not aware of the series yet.
Good ass movie. I loved it. I was hyped up. Haha.
chrisdude
11-28-2015, 10:41 PM
Duke refers to Apollo as an adopted son. I always took it that Duke took part in raising Apollo not similar to the Rocky/ Micky relationship. It just feels like the younger Creed son would have gone to Duke first or at least mentioned that Duke sent him to Rocky.
Just show the grave next to Adrians', huh?
Thanks.
Just curious, did anyone else learn of Rocky due to Michelangelo's impersonation of him in the 1990 film? Being a preschooler thrn I was not aware of the series yet.Actually, I was listening to Victory by Puff Daddy and Biggie, and I was like, "Holy crap, where'd they get this instrumental?" And I watched the movie on Netflix that night.
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Leo656
11-29-2015, 03:21 AM
Cubed makes the beginner's error of judging Rocky like it's a regular movie series, instead of Rocky.
That character is so strong you could make 100 movies and people would ask for more. I mean, everyone knows that "technically" IV and V don't hold up as well as the first three... but that's totally NOT true if you watch them all in a row, in the same day/weekend. In THAT scenario, by the time Rocky beats communism to death with his bare (gloved) hands you actually wish there were twenty more movies to watch. And "Rocky Balboa" is amaaaaazing.
I actually got laid today while Rocky IV was on in the background. :lol: Not by design, it just happened that way.
The Stryker
11-29-2015, 08:42 AM
Creed is really really good.
One of those 'This is a totally fitting full circle end to the series but if they went ahead and did 4 more that's fine too' movies.
GoldMutant
11-29-2015, 09:31 AM
Looks like I get another film worth a damn to watch. I'll probably go see this film in a few days after the school week is over.
Question though: I've heard Paulie died, did they bring the cause of death up?
The Stryker
11-29-2015, 09:42 AM
Looks like I get another film worth a damn to watch. I'll probably go see this film in a few days after the school week is over.
Question though: I've heard Paulie died, did they bring the cause of death up?
Naw. They just say that he passed away.
GoldMutant
11-29-2015, 09:48 AM
Naw. They just say that he passed away.
Darn it. :ohwell: Thanks Stryker, just grateful for another Rocky film. Who knows, maybe it'll pick up it's own series.
Probably just of old age. But if I were to bet on it, he was a drunk, so maybe alcohol poisoning.
Proof that the message that Rocky gave in Rocky Balboa still rings true:
"It ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." Rocky isn't in the ring anymore, but he's obviously still getting hit. Creed was a pure example of that.
JakeSully
11-29-2015, 12:22 PM
Damn good movie, a worthy film in the series.
shuriken
11-29-2015, 02:29 PM
Creed is really really good.
One of those 'This is a totally fitting full circle end to the series but if they went ahead and did 4 more that's fine too' movies.
I wholeheartedly agree. Also loved all the real boxer cameos in this movie, I was geeking out the entire time I recognized someone new (One of which was from Philly).
Leo656
11-29-2015, 07:41 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing it. Hopefully soon.
If anyone wants to spoil for me exactly how Apollo has an illegitimate son, feel free. I mean I'm guessing it's probably just some, "He cheated on his wife, he was a star athlete, nobody's perfect" type of scenario, but feel free to enlighten me.
I just know that if it's something like that, my wife is probably gonna throw a fit over it, and I'm never gonna be able to watch a Rocky movie again without her calling Apollo an asshole. :trazz:
Anyways I've been curious about that and I haven't seen anything anywhere so feel free to clue me in.
MikeandRaph87
11-29-2015, 07:48 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing it. Hopefully soon.
If anyone wants to spoil for me exactly how Apollo has an illegitimate son, feel free. I mean I'm guessing it's probably just some, "He cheated on his wife, he was a star athlete, nobody's perfect" type of scenario, but feel free to enlighten me.
I just know that if it's something like that, my wife is probably gonna throw a fit over it, and I'm never gonna be able to watch a Rocky movie again without her calling Apollo an asshole. :trazz:
Anyways I've been curious about that and I haven't seen anything anywhere so feel free to clue me in.
Wait...I thought his wife, Mary Anne Creed was said to be pregnant when Apollo died and Adonis is this never before known child. Sylvia Meals is not reprising her role from Rocky II and IV, but Phylicia Rashad is playing the same character who is Adonis's mother.
Any mention of Apollo's older son and daughter seen in the background of Rocky II and IV?
chrisdude
11-29-2015, 10:59 PM
Wait...I thought his wife, Mary Anne Creed was said to be pregnant when Apollo died and Adonis is this never before known child. Sylvia Meals is not reprising her role from Rocky II and IV, but Phylicia Rashad is playing the same character who is Adonis's mother.
Any mention of Apollo's older son and daughter seen in the background of Rocky II and IV?
Nah. It was infidelity. Apollo had an affair and died before Adonis was born. Then his mother died. Apollo's wife found Adonis in a foster home and adopted him. No mention of his half-siblings.
shuriken
11-30-2015, 02:34 AM
Chrisdude beat me to it. I think it works.
Still time to mention them if they go the sequel route. I think this was just a test run to see how audiences would react to the continuation. Of course, it was a positive reaction, so I'm hoping that make a sequel.
MikeandRaph87
11-30-2015, 12:40 PM
I can definitely see Clubber Lang or Tommy Gunn having an illegitimate child, but not Apollo. He was an arrogant jerk when it comes to his profession, but he was a family man. It is a shame. If Mary Ann is included it would seem like it would be her child. I would not have it in me to do what she did. It hurts Apollo's character a bit at least for me.
Is Michael B. Jordan playing his age 27/28 or is the Adonis character younger?
I can definitely see Clubber Lang or Tommy Gunn having an illegitimate child, but not Apollo. He was an arrogant jerk when it comes to his profession, but he was a family man. It is a shame. If Mary Ann is included it would seem like it would be her child. I would not have it in me to do what she did. It hurts Apollo's character a bit at least for me.
Is Michael B. Jordan playing his age 27/28 or is the Adonis character younger
?
Well, since Apollo died in '85, and Adonis was born after he died, I assume he was born in 1986, so that would make him around 28-29. Luckily, it works, because that would've been the biggest plothole. Haha.
The Stryker
11-30-2015, 02:06 PM
Well, since Apollo died in '85, and Adonis was born after he died, I assume he was born in 1986, so that would make him around 28-29. Luckily, it works, because that would've been the biggest plothole. Haha.
In a series where Rocky's son went from 6 to like 13 in the course of one russia trip. I think we're fine.
For a sequel I could see them using the dude from the gym that knocked Adonis out in the beginning as the villain.
Andrew NDB
11-30-2015, 02:54 PM
Yes, "Creed" retroactively makes Apollo Creed a cheating bastard. Sorry. But it's a great film.
I've done my digging and they do have plans to make this at least a trilogy if things take off. I left the theater talking to my girl like, "I hope they do something with Ivan Drago, or his son" or sh*t like that, and I kinda hope they do in a way, but I kind of feel like that's just fanboy stuff. Maybe it's just best if Adonis takes out dude he didn't in #1 and then knocks out his sparring partner dude too.
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 12:50 AM
After 2 Rocky films, I just can't bring myself to watch more. The first 2 were good. Maybe someday I will give them a chance.
Leo656
12-01-2015, 12:52 AM
In my day, children who spoke in such blasphemous tones were placed in a burlap sack and whipped with reeds.
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 01:25 AM
LOL I can still give them a chance. Kind of bummed me out when I found out Creed gets...... wait can I give spoilers for Rocky III that I have only seen about 5 minutes of while flipping through cable channels?
Leo656
12-01-2015, 01:26 AM
Even though you're thinking of Rocky IV in the first place, y'mean?
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 01:27 AM
So it was IV then? Okay, IV. Involved a Russian boxer, the incident did.
Leo656
12-01-2015, 01:32 AM
I've never even shaken hands with anyone who hasn't seen all the Rocky movies in triplicate. The unwashed simply aren't allowed to touch the Anointed.
You're lucky I have absolutely nothing else to do at the moment or we wouldn't even be talking about this. :trazz:
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 01:39 AM
I was happy when he won the rematch in Rocky II. It was such a close fight. I hope nobody gets upset about spoilers.
Leo656
12-01-2015, 01:40 AM
I hear Rocky picked up a few W's here and there, I think it's safe.
Powder
12-01-2015, 01:49 AM
I've not seen any of the films to completion. Fight me.
Leo656
12-01-2015, 01:53 AM
I'll scrap with you right now, hambone. You've wasted your life! :trazz:
No wonder you're so glum all the time, Eeyore! You haven't sat through all the Rocky flicks! That explains so much!
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 01:55 AM
I've not seen any of the films to completion. Fight me.
You really need to watch Rocky I, it is a classic.
Powder
12-01-2015, 02:03 AM
I'll scrap with you right now, hambone. You've wasted your life! :trazz:
No wonder you're so glum all the time, Eeyore! You haven't sat through all the Rocky flicks! That explains so much!
I've seen a good chunk of the first one, & most of 4. That's it. I don't like those kinda movies, or Stallone much. It is what it is, mane.
CyberCubed
12-01-2015, 02:07 AM
Which was the one with the Russian boxer? That was the only one I saw fully.
I do think I saw bits and pieces of the others on TV with my father, but I don't think I ever sat through all of it. Even if I did I wouldn't remember since I was a kid.
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 02:07 AM
I've seen a good chunk of the first one, & most of 4. That's it. I don't like those kinda movies, or Stallone much. It is what it is, mane.
Finish the fight! That was a Halo 3 advertising slogan, wasn't it? At least watch Rocky I. I don't care LOL. Watch whatever you want.
Leo656
12-01-2015, 02:08 AM
But... but the power of the human spirit! The indomitable force of will, and man's ability to harness that force and use it to accomplish miracles, like win a boxing match or, or literally punch out Communism, the idea, with fists, as in YOUR FISTS! I mean COME ON, guy!
Those movies teach us so much about what it means to be human. I mean, my God. I mean, I f*cking hate boxing. I cannot stand boxing. But I loooooooooooooove Rocky!
I get the feeling you've never eaten six raw eggs in a glass before going outside to do one-armed push-ups in the snow. Call it a hunch. :trazz:
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 02:11 AM
But... but the power of the human spirit! The indomitable force of will, and man's ability to harness that force and use it to accomplish miracles, like win a boxing match or, or literally punch out Communism, the idea, with fists, as in YOUR FISTS! I mean COME ON, guy!
Those movies teach us so much about what it means to be human. I mean, my God. I mean, I f*cking hate boxing. I cannot stand boxing. But I loooooooooooooove Rocky!
I get the feeling you've never eaten six raw eggs in a glass before going outside to do one-armed push-ups in the snow. Call it a hunch. :trazz:
Probably hasn't eaten lightning and crapped thunder either.
shuriken
12-01-2015, 02:24 AM
^^YES
But... but the power of the human spirit! The indomitable force of will, and man's ability to harness that force and use it to accomplish miracles, like win a boxing match or, or literally punch out Communism, the idea, with fists, as in YOUR FISTS! I mean COME ON, guy!
Those movies teach us so much about what it means to be human. I mean, my God. I mean, I f*cking hate boxing. I cannot stand boxing. But I loooooooooooooove Rocky!
Yeah it's not really about boxing.
At least not the first 4. Rocky V-Creed have more of a focus on boxing and include cameos from real boxing annalists and having the antagonists be real pro boxers (Tommy Gunn, Mason Dixon and Pretty Ricky were all legit world champions). They even have a mock 24-7 that was pretty neat.
Powder
12-01-2015, 02:24 AM
But... but the power of the human spirit! The indomitable force of will, and man's ability to harness that force and use it to accomplish miracles, like win a boxing match or, or literally punch out Communism, the idea, with fists, as in YOUR FISTS! I mean COME ON, guy!
Those movies teach us so much about what it means to be human. I mean, my God. I mean, I f*cking hate boxing. I cannot stand boxing. But I loooooooooooooove Rocky!
I get the feeling you've never eaten six raw eggs in a glass before going outside to do one-armed push-ups in the snow. Call it a hunch. :trazz:
I get that in my old kung-fu movies. Snake In The Eagles Shadow > Rocky.
I may not have sucked down a half carton of eggs in my day but I have drank entire bottle of vodka & lived to tell the tale!
Pollyparrot
12-01-2015, 02:30 AM
There was a Rocky Playstation 2 video game. I don't remember it having any of the story from the movies, just boxing as far as I know. Movie based games are usually not that great.
shuriken
12-01-2015, 02:41 AM
^^Rocky Legends
It was mediocre at best. Controls were kinda stiff and the voice acting was terrible with none of the original cast reprising their roles. And there was a story mode that let you play through the events of the Rocky Movies.
Apollo's story has you end your story after Rocky 1
Clubber lang's story ends after Rocky loses the first fight in Rocky 3
Drago's ends in an alternate timeline in which Drago wins and the Us falls to communism.
Rocky's story ends with him beating Tommy Gunn in an alley. It's a shame this wasn't released a biut later to include Mason the Line Dixon, but whatevs. Paulie and Mickey are playable characters so that was neat.
I greatly prefer the Fight night games though. If you're a huge Rocky fan get it.
Best thing about the game are all the characters and the trailers of the first 5 movies that accompany it in the unlockable content. If you're a huge boxing fan skip it and get Fight Night, or hell ready 2 Rumble even.
Leo656
12-01-2015, 02:42 AM
There was a Rocky Playstation 2 video game. I don't remember it having any of the story from the movies, just boxing as far as I know. Movie based games are usually not that great.
There were two games that came out within like a year or two of each other, Rocky and Rocky Legends. I have them both but have only played the first one, as my PS2 died long ago and I haven't replaced it. The first game was pretty good, I was actually playing it on Gamecube yesterday. Not a lot to it, but as far as pre-Fight Night boxing games go it was one of the better ones. Simple button-masher, but it gives the "Rocky Experience". I heard that "Legends" has a much more expansive story, including playing through the backstories of Apollo, Drago, all the guys who weren't Rocky, basically.
EDIT: Ah, shuriken beat me to it. Ah well. I'unno, they're okay. Really only a curiosity anymore, like every other boxing game that isn't Fight Night, but especially for a licensed game from 2002 it wasn't bad at all. Stiff. Very, very stiff.
I get that in my old kung-fu movies. Snake In The Eagles Shadow > Rocky.
No way. No Mr. T, no sale. :lol: "HEY WO-MAN! HEY WO-MAN!" :lol: That line from Rocky III is like a big inside joke between me and my wife. His delivery is just the best. Horrible actor, generally speaking, but oh, man, talk about a movie as a "vehicle". That movie is like the entire reason Mr. T was even born. The universe created Mr. T JUST so he could play Clubber Lang. :lol:
Sweet sassy-molassy, that's good stuff. Now I wanna go to the f*cking gym. :lol:
Powder
12-01-2015, 02:58 AM
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turtlefanforever
12-11-2015, 03:19 PM
i never played legends.
Did you guys see the video of michael b jordan getting ko'd?
doesn't really look real but the head turn gives a reasonable doubt. I've seen people get ko'd by less.
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