Avengers-not as good as you think it is.

[electric_sheep]

It's kinda sacrilage to say that you don't like the Avengers, that it's kinda ungreatfull, well i don't care.
You would think that a movie with 5 superheroes could never be boring, boy where you wrong. This was dull, generic, cliche non engaging and overall forgettable...
It feels like an episode of a TV series with a big budget. The writing is horrible, Josh Weadon tries to make everyone witty and it doesn't work. All the character depth from the previous movies, well forget about that it's like watching cardboard cutouts and you don't give a **** about what's going on. Loki is a joke of a villain, nothing about him is menacing or smart or anything really, he is such a non presence in the movie that it brings a generic movie even lower because you don't feel fear for any character ever. Josh you are not Tarantino, how about next time you write the characters a little better instead of making everybody cocky? There's way to much **** in this movie...

[psychturtle]

Cannot disagree more. I'm sure you can direct this frustration somewhere else and be productive at the same time? You're entitled to your opinions but I feel like this post was meant to incite argument based on the language used.

[Candy Kappa]

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[Donatello19]

I saw it and everything from the characters and action scenes/effects were awesome. I just couldn't get engaged in the story, though. Eh, I never liked superheroes anyway...

[electric_sheep]

Cannot disagree more. I'm sure you can direct this frustration somewhere else and be productive at the same time? You're entitled to your opinions but I feel like this post was meant to incite argument based on the language used.

Not really, i get why people like it and i don't hate it (unlike TDK or Amazing Spiderman) I just don't think it's very good.

[TigerClaw]

I enjoyed the Avengers, When you get a bunch of Superheroes from the different movies together, you will expect a lot of action. As for the story, By watching all the other marvel movies, It helps built up the story that will happen in the movie. With everything that happened in The Winter Soldier, and Agents of Shield. You kind of get a sense of what the story will be like in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

[NinjaPug]

Is it May 2012 again?

[Peanut]

Electric_sheep is not as good of a troll as he thinks he is.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

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[electric_sheep]

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Well yeah, it is. But if you detach yourself from all the hype and media and nostalgia, just look at the movie as just a movie, it doesen't really stand up..

[Candy Kappa]

Well, it is a big crossover event. That's why we have the individual movies.

[sdp]

I don't like it either.

I know I'm in the minority and don't get me wrong I thought it was good but far from anything special. Sure it was cool to see the Avengers together in a movie and it had some funny lines but overall it didn't do anything special. The first Iron Man and Batman Begins are still the superior superhero movies, Avengers only ranks higher than the other run of the mill superhero movies which I might like but it doesn't get me all excited.

[Ninjinister]

Holy crap someone actually is capable of making worse topics than Cubed.

Lesson number 1: Don't make a topic to tell people how much you hate something that others like. It's a colossal dick move.

[CyberCubed]

Avengers might be a little overrated but its still a good entertaining movie with great performances by the actors and great action.

[Peanut]

Dissenting opinions from sdp too!? This thread has it all!

[ZariusTwo]

I don't mind, but it IS overrated and truth be told none of Marvel's movies are shakespere but unfortunatly their stupid aspie fanboys will try to convince you the emperor isnt naked. It's a bit pathetic really. Everyone grows up eventually, and when you do, that's when you watch and appreciate a DC product more.

[electric_sheep]

Dissenting opinions from sdp too!? This thread has it all!

What's sdp?

[ZariusTwo]

I enjoyed the Avengers, When you get a bunch of Superheroes from the different movies together, you will expect a lot of action.

Marvel comics thrive more on story than action.

As for the story, By watching all the other marvel movies, It helps built up the story that will happen in the movie.

Not really. Outside of Thor and Cap, which are essential for certain points, you could have told the Phase I story in a minimal amount of time, it certaingly isnt as detailed as Phase II's films have been, which in my mind will just hurt these films as they become more smug and self-referential. People care more about post-credit scenes than they do about the f*cking actual movie.

With everything that happened in The Winter Soldier, and Agents of Shield. You kind of get a sense of what the story will be like in Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Winter Soldier is all that's been required of Phase II so far. Agents of SHIELD is boring as f*ck.

[Cure]

Too bad no one can just say "I dislike this thing" anymore. Now it has to be "I hate this thing and everyone else who likes it is dumb".

[AT-Man]

Agents of SHIELD is boring as f*ck.

You are wrong. It did start slow, but the latest episodes have been exciting as hell.

[Ninjinister]

I don't mind, but it IS overrated and truth be told none of Marvel's movies are shakespere but unfortunatly their stupid aspie fanboys will try to convince you the emperor isnt naked. It's a bit pathetic really. Everyone grows up eventually, and when you do, that's when you watch and appreciate a DC product more.

Did a guy in a Wolverine shirt wipe his ass with your copy of Superman, or something? Jesus. You are literally the very kind of fanboy you're complaining about, but for the opposite team.

[Peanut]

Now we get some classic Zarius self-hating "aspie" sh*t, from a grown man who writes fan fic no less!

Best thread in this section in years!

[Candy Kappa]

This thread. Gold.

[Brodie]

Who the **** is "Josh Weadon"?

[Ninjinister]

Who the **** is "Josh Weadon"?

Probably a friend of this "shakespere"

[Turo602]

If I could take a dump anywhere on this forum, it would be in this thread.

[Allio]

If I could take a dump anywhere on this forum, it would be in this thread.

Where would you take it to?

[The Stryker]

Who the **** is "Josh Weadon"?

Probably a friend of this "shakespere"

Jesus christ, you guys are 'ungreatfull'.

[electric_sheep]

I blame internet explorer, it doesen't have auto correct...
(yeah i use Internet explorer)
And no, i won't edit it, spelling mistakes are apparently hilarious...

[chrisdude]

You don't have to like the movie. It's just, you dislike it for the specific reasons people love it... And you made a whole thread to say, "You think you like this pizza, but if you look at it objectively, you'll realize that, obviously, the cheese, the sauce and the crust suck. Right, guys?"

[Cure]

If I could take a dump anywhere on this forum, it would be in this thread.

Hahaha, OK. As a lover of all butt related jokes, you got me.

[XERO]

I'm just waiting for the "Marvel vs. Capcom" bashing to pop up.

[Shred Head]

Everyone grows up eventually, and when you do, that's when you watch and appreciate a DC product more.

Ok I got to know what DC product is superior to the Marvel films cause I can only think four five if Batman Mask of the Phantasm is counted. That I would count as masterpieces to let alone good. Even then they all star Batman DC/WB just cant get it together when it comes to showcasing its other heroes on the big screen.

As for Avengers and the marvels studio stuff yeah its overrated. Avengers was a good action flick but unlike other comic movies like X2 or Dark Knight it didn't really get me much of an emotional response from me. If it wasn't for seeing the other Marvel movies I wouldn't have given to ***** about the characters. As for Marvel Studios themselves there just like Fox and Sony they can have success and failures just like them I frankly hated Iron Man III and Thor Dark Word was overly meh.

[plastroncafe]

If growing up means appreciating the clusterf#*k that is the DC TV/Movie franchises, then I'll happily stay a kid forever.

[chrisdude]

Ok I got to know what DC product is superior to the Marvel films cause I can only think four five if Batman Mask of the Phantasm is counted. That I would count as masterpieces to let alone good. Even then they all star Batman DC/WB just cant get it together when it comes to showcasing its other heroes on the big screen.

As for Avengers and the marvels studio stuff yeah its overrated. Avengers was a good action flick but unlike other comic movies like X2 or Dark Knight it didn't really get me much of an emotional response from me. If it wasn't for seeing the other Marvel movies I wouldn't have given to ***** about the characters. As for Marvel Studios themselves there just like Fox and Sony they can have success and failures just like them I frankly hated Iron Man III and Thor Dark Word was overly meh.That's kinda the genius of the whole thing.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I quite honestly didn't like The Avengers either. The actors were great and all, but the writing was pretty sloppy at times (I still don't know why in God's name Hulk started tearing apart the Helicarrier, but became everyone's fun friend at the end when it was plot-convenient).

Boring soundtrack, boring shots, and quite frankly a boring story. The core plot itself could be interesting, but the way it was all paced made it all so mundane and quite frankly annoying.

And what the hell was with all the bad jokes? I don't mean just bad, I mean goddamn irritating. Why did Hulk feel the need to punch Thor after taking down that giant lizard alien thing?

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It was just stupid; what if Hulk had killed Thor? That wouldn't be funny. It all just felt so contrived.

And Iron Man 3 made me want to puke. They set the movie during Christmas (maximum ??????) and while the Mandarin was pretty awesome in the beginning, he turned out to be a loser named Trevor who'd turned his brain to goo with drugs. And then they try to fix it by making that idiot Killian the Mandarin.

I was pretty happy when they killed off Pepper, but she survived due to dumb luck and became the hero of the movie instead of Tony, who decided to blow up all of his Iron Man suits for reasons that are not made clear. And Tony got a real heart again? That was just insulting to Marvel fans, especially when the first two movies made it clear that that simply wasn't possible.

There were so many plot holes in an almost plotless film. It was kind of amazing how poorly written it was.

The Winter Soldier was awesome, though. I couldn't have asked for a better film.

[plastroncafe]

I think the thing I loved best about the Mandarin reveal in IM3 was how it took the piss out of the Ras Al Ghul reveal from Batman Begins, a movie that just gets worse and worse with every rewatch.

[CyberCubed]

And what the hell was with all the bad jokes? I don't mean just bad, I mean goddamn irritating. Why did Hulk feel the need to punch Thor after taking down that giant lizard alien thing?

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It was just stupid; what if Hulk had killed Thor? That wouldn't be funny. It all just felt so contrived.

This is what you're complaining about? Its a comic book movie, I want fun jokes in a movie. People forget that superheroes are supposed to be, "fun," I want to see funny banter and jokes between characters.

Its the reason Robin exists in the Batman universe, because you need a lighter or funnier character there.

[plastroncafe]

Well that, and he's a self-insert character for little boys to imagine themselves being.

Then they added BatGirl to make things look less "provocative."

[TheSkeletonMan939]

This is what you're complaining about? Its a comic book movie, I want fun jokes in a movie. People forget that superheroes are supposed to be, "fun," I want to see funny banter and jokes between characters.


Me too. Winter Soldier did it fine; the jokes were natural and - surprise surprise! - actually funny. The jokes in Avengers were forced, annoying, stupid, and unfunny.

[Shred Head]

That's kinda the genius of the whole thing.

I wouldn't really call it genius when all the rest of your characters suffer for it. I kept having to remind myself Hawkeye was even in this movie. Black widow was for the most part was typical femme fatal sure she was hot but I didn't really care about the character not till Winter Soldier. Hulk/Banner was an inconsistent mess and he actually had a movie. I know I'm giving this movie alot of flack but I do like the movie I just get kinda sick of hearing how its the be all to end all of comic movies and to me I just don't see it.

Anyone else just disturb at how the Avengers is an all white roster. I mean it didn't bother me on the first one but news on the new one and all the new characters are white. Its also a little odd that the big three all get minority sidekicks that don't ever get to play a role on the Avengers. Hell we are getting an AntMan movie before a Black Panther movie its not even in the planning stages. I dont know I just kind of find it ****ed up is all.

[The Stryker]

Black Panther f*cking sucks anyway.

[Cure]

Boo hoo, white people.

Also, I would take Hulk punching Thor as a joke over aaaaaany of Black Widow's awful f*cking "quirk".

[Peanut]

Some people in here seem like they'd be a f*cking blast to hang out with!

[CyberCubed]

Well that, and he's a self-insert character for little boys to imagine themselves being.

Then they added BatGirl to make things look less "provocative."

Funny how Robin used to be hated and viewed as "useless" due to the campy 60's Batman show and the Batman Forever/Batman and Robin movies.

However when Robin is written well, like in Batman: TAS, Teen Titans or Young Justice, the character is loved. Dick Grayson is one of the coolest superheroes ever even when he's still Robin.

It's a shame the general public still views Robin as a terrible character which is why the idea of him was mocked in the Nolan films and why he may never be in a movie again. Yet in the cartoons and comics the various Robin characters are loved.

[Turo602]

Are we claiming white supremacy with this film now? Does this topic like bring out the stupid in people?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Black Panther f*cking sucks anyway.

Oh, he's not that bad. I've always liked his backstory and the idea that he's in this weird, unknown African country, and I think that he could be in his own movie if the pacing was done right.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Was anyone even paying attention to Winter Soldier? Falcon is going to be in the next Avengers. And we have Fury, of course. So much for the "all-white meat" roster! Personally, I'd like to see Carol Danvers get some screen love. One of my all-time favorite Avengers, and we're getting Wanda and Pietro before HER! (And yes, I know they were some of the earliest Avengers, but she's much better known- I mean, she's named for the very company that created her!)

[Shark_Blade]

Name a film that's better than Avengers then? We can definitely tear it apart and tell you what's not good about it too.

[electric_sheep]

Name a film that's better than Avengers then? We can definitely tear it apart and tell you what's not good about it too.

Superhero or in general?
Ok, to be even here's a couple of movies that i like, feel free to tear them apart

Troll hunter, Dredd, constantine 2005, hot fuzz, attack the block, brother where are thou and kill bill vol1 and 2.

[Cure]

Black Panther f*cking sucks anyway.

Boo hoo, white people.

Are we claiming white supremacy with this film now? Does this topic like bring out the stupid in people?

I find it funny that we minorities are the ones who are like "who cares about too many white people".

[plastroncafe]

Constantine?

You mean the ripoff of Hellblazer where they didn't even pronounce the main character's name correctly?

Don't get me wrong, I'll forever thank that movie for giving us Tilda Swinton as "The Brat" and for putting Rachel Weiss in a bath tub with a black bra/white shirt, but there's nothing what so ever good about that movie when compared to the source material.

[Shark_Blade]

Superhero or in general?
Ok, to be even here's a couple of movies that i like, feel free to tear them apart

Troll hunter, Dredd, constantine 2005, hot fuzz, attack the block, brother where are thou and kill bill vol1 and 2.

I can tear them all apart except Kil Bill Vol 1 and 2. Those are precious to me and yes, perhaps even better than The Avengers. :P

[Candy Kappa]

Constantine?

You mean the ripoff of Hellblazer where they didn't even pronounce the main character's name correctly?

Don't get me wrong, I'll forever thank that movie for giving us Tilda Swinton as "The Brat" and for putting Rachel Weiss in a bath tub with a black bra/white shirt, but there's nothing what so ever good about that movie when compared to the source material.

Watching that movie hurts so bad. I really hope the new upcoming show treats Constantine with a little more respect.

[electric_sheep]

Watching that movie hurts so bad. I really hope the new upcoming show treats Constantine with a little more respect.

It's an awful adaptation, i just watch it as it own thing, it's not half bad...

[chrisdude]

I wouldn't really call it genius when all the rest of your characters suffer for it. I kept having to remind myself Hawkeye was even in this movie. Black widow was for the most part was typical femme fatal sure she was hot but I didn't really care about the character not till Winter Soldier. Hulk/Banner was an inconsistent mess and he actually had a movie. I know I'm giving this movie alot of flack but I do like the movie I just get kinda sick of hearing how its the be all to end all of comic movies and to me I just don't see it.I don't think it's very fair to complain about secondary characters from a movie continuing to be secondary characters in the sequel.

Anyone else just disturb at how the Avengers is an all white roster. I mean it didn't bother me on the first one but news on the new one and all the new characters are white. Its also a little odd that the big three all get minority sidekicks that don't ever get to play a role on the Avengers. Hell we are getting an AntMan movie before a Black Panther movie its not even in the planning stages. I dont know I just kind of find it ****ed up is all.I really never noticed. The movies have had black characters. But, if they'd changed the race of any of the Avengers, people would've crapped their pants. Black Panther would probably be cool. I'd like to think he'll show up eventually. But I'd rather have Captain Marvel...