View Full Version : Is Ace Duck one of the most hated TMNT characters by people who work in the industry?
CyberCubed
05-04-2014, 10:57 AM
Minor spoilers for the newest Nick episode:
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For those who don't know, there was a reference to Ace Duck in the newest episode by Baxter. Shredder thought the idea of Ace Duck was stupid and tore up the photo into shreds. :lol:
In the original cartoon the writers thought Ace Duck was such a terrible character that all he got was a 5 second cameo on a TV show Michaelangelo was watching instead of being a real actual character. :lol:
And in the Archie series Ace Duck was a flamboyant wrestler played for laughs from Dimension X.
Do you think there is an intense dislike for Ace Duck from everyone in the TMNT franchise?
I love Ace Duck, after the turtles and Shredder he is the figure I wanted. He was always the turtles favorite ally when I played with them. I love his designs, now his design doesn't really work for other incarnations of the turtles but fits perfectly in the OT. He isn't a terrible character either, he could be made into something cool.
The OT didn't use him because when the toy came out they were in that "no mutants" phase where we rarely got any mutants, so the fact that he got a cameo says a lot about his popularity at the time I think. When the show finally got around to doing mutants every other week, his toy was no longer sold so he lost his chance. Archie just did weird things with characters, I doubt they thought about ridiculing him, in fact they tried to use him somehow in their weird space storyline and it was the best they thought for him at the time. The Nick show making fun of him is well, Ace Duck is a product of its time it sounds silly on paper but he could be redesigned to fit the universe if they really tried, then again the Nick show has far more ridiculous things that them making fun of Ace Duck is like pot calling the kettle black.
Whatswiththeheadbands?
05-04-2014, 12:43 PM
Ace Duck......:-?
Ramboraph4life aka Matt
05-04-2014, 01:40 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R38CBao36-A/UA6-_zuunjI/AAAAAAAABbg/4gcVxiv15uk/s1600/Ace89.jpg
Maybe it reminds someone too much of Howard the Duck...for some reason.
Ace Duck......:-?
Look at this Mother F-cker right here. THAT is ACE effing Duck..
http://www.seibertron.com/images/ebay/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/ace-duck-complete-121217/DSC08767.jpg
Not afraid to wield a gun, and a handful of granades. He is after all a mercenary, all while looking like a true pro with his leather jacket to let people know he is an ace pilot. Those wings aren't just for show either, he can fly as well as he could a plane.
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/TNTSAdmin/Turtles%20Talk/AceFileCard.jpg
Now, let's take a look at his origin, after Krang has basically made ducks extinct in Dimension X, he decides to beam one from earth since his hunger is not satisfied until he gets exactly what he wants. Ace Conrad, badass test pilot was about to be given the promotion he deserved based on his amazing skills, and on his last run he is never heard of again. That's because he fused with the duck and became ACE DUCK. He ends up in the turtles lair. He now decides to use his new body and badass skills to become a mercenary. He won't take jobs that hurt innocent people though and will usually end up teaming up with the turtles, as long as he's paid.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070624055924/tmnt/images/d/db/Ace_duck_cartoon.jpg
He was considered too violent by network standards of its time so the OT crew had to reduce his role in the show, in this version instead of being a gun for hire, he decides to act and becomes a famous tv/movie star. Despite being a mutant and all the prejudices. Like at everything, he becomes a top actor in record time.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/13/132162/2860391-tmnt_universe_sourcebook__0___page_3.png
What about Archie? A joke you say? Look at that badass over there, all beefed up and ready to fight. In here he is an intergalactic wrestler who has won all the top titles of the GALAXY and defended them against creatures all over the turtles multiverse, you have to remember Cudley the cowlick brings the top contenders from the multiverse, not even the Battle Nexus can compare, that sh-t is like the little leagues compared to it. In just one panel he quickly manhandles Leatherhead as if he were nothing. This ain't no WWE/UFC sh-t, he would make Lesnar tap out in seconds.
http://www.tomopop.com/ul/16472-custom-ace-ducks-proves-ace-should-have-his-own-toy-line/90783-550x.jpg
Since Playmates or any toy company could not handle making a new Ace Duck figure that would be accurate at all, You'll find only customs which you'll find plenty of can attempt to replicate a glimpse of him in plastic form.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0HjzOP1Z-Z0/UgAUfwVSb8I/AAAAAAAACy4/8YJ1AC2pzjE/s400/024-TMNT-+ACE_DUCK-TEMPLATED+copy.jpg
Ace Duck's legacy continues to live on through fans hearts, with constant fanfics and art, since not even the gritty Mirage universe would be able to handle him.
Nick's Shredder was a fool not to attempt at getting his version of Ace Duck, then again what more can we expect from him, he can have fun with spyderbytes or whatever Jar Jar Binks knock off he chooses instead.
Discogod
05-04-2014, 02:52 PM
Ace Duck f'ing rules, and I will fight anyone who disagrees. In fact, I have him ranked #4 on my Top 10 Ducks list, after Daffy, Howard and the duck I rescued last week.
blindturtle02
05-04-2014, 03:10 PM
Ace Duck was my first TMNT figure ever. I received him way back in 90 when I was 6 or so, so he has a very special place in my heart. I remember loving all the kick butt weaponry he came with. I love Ace. He would have made a great merc in the OT. Guess we're not seeing him in any big roles on the Nick show, but it was still a great cameo. Go get'em, you bada$$ quackin powerhouse! He'd be a real trip throwing grenades, firing bullets everywhere, and doing that insane quackie quack cackle all at once.
Nameless
05-04-2014, 03:45 PM
ace duck always confused me as a kid cause i never saw him in the cartoon (or remembered seeing his cameo). but i had his toy so i've always known who he was. i dunno always seemed to me to be just a filler character/toy. i don't hate him but i surly have no love for him either. he could be Ace Aardvark for all care haha.
Garfield
05-04-2014, 04:11 PM
No need to over blow things. One little side gag doesn't make him one of the most hated characters.
Outside of toys and cameos, Ace Duck hasn't had much characterization. The most he had other than his bio card from the toy was being the narcissistic wrestler in the Archie Ninja Turtles comics.
I know I sure don't like him much.
Mzx10484
05-04-2014, 04:38 PM
I have sympathy for Ace Duck, always had. The character as a pilot and the corresponding outfit made him interesting to me at that time. Besides, Ace Duck is an appealing toy figure with all his accessoires !!
Intense dislike ? Too bad.
Rukitron
05-04-2014, 05:50 PM
Ace Duck is the best obscure TMNT character. I always wondered who would voice him. I'd rather have him than new Pizza Face.
oldmanwinters
05-04-2014, 06:11 PM
Ace Duck is quite peculiar considering how early his action figure came and how little he has factored into the TMNT franchise since then.
Also, I just cant' help myself from referencing Weird Al:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx85oWi1yJQ#t=03m13s
tmntmikey23
05-04-2014, 06:38 PM
[QUOTE=sdp;1257966]Look at this Mother F-cker right here. THAT is ACE effing Duck..
dude he just asked a question you could just exsplan it to him nicely not rude WWTB ace duck is a duck from the 80s TMNT and in the new episode shredder ripped a picture of him :D
Shark_Blade
05-04-2014, 06:51 PM
Nope that would be Venus, the pointless female turtle.
DevilSpooky
05-04-2014, 07:13 PM
I loved Ace when I was a kid, he was the only character I had as a toy that wasn't a main character, I only had him, the 4 turtles, April, Splinter and Shredder. And he had egg grenades for Christ's sake :tcool:
Damn, I have to go back to my parents and find the rest of my collection, wonder if I still have all the parts of my Shredder, last time I saw him he was sitting in one of my drawers ripped apart lol :trolleye:
Nope that would be Venus, the pointless female turtle.
She's got her fans. Lots of 'em, too.
Garreth
05-04-2014, 11:35 PM
Ace Duck f'ing rules, and I will fight anyone who disagrees. In fact, I have him ranked #4 on my Top 10 Ducks list, after Daffy, Howard and the duck I rescued last week.
Hahahaha. Good stuff
Shark_Blade
05-05-2014, 04:11 AM
She's got her fans. Lots of 'em, too.
Thanks for the laugh.
pannoni1
05-05-2014, 07:27 AM
The problem with Season 3 of the OT when Ace Duck was introduced was that the Technodrome wasn't in Dimension X. I disagree on him being too violent if Bebop/Rocksteady among many others use guns and the grenades aren't unlike the Rat King's smoke bombs. Shredder may have just been angry since Ace Duck would eventually side with the Turtles. But Ace Duck is just an under-the-radar figure that FW/Archie felt was too bland to make the story be interesting at a time before there was real filler. I still would have given Ace Duck an episode or two just to help the Turtles with the blimp, preferably an episode that takes place in Dimension X.
Ace Duck is the best obscure TMNT character. I always wondered who would voice him. I'd rather have him than new Pizza Face.
I would imagine Barry Gordon or Rob Paulsen.
Refractive Reflections
05-05-2014, 10:50 AM
Ace Duck is the best obscure TMNT character. I always wondered who would voice him. I'd rather have him than new Pizza Face.
Just to add to your comment, to make an equivalent example of just how obscure Ace Duck is, it would be like Nick TMNT making an action figure from a character of Space Heroes, if that show was only shown once throughout the entire Nick series.
Punker Don
05-05-2014, 01:45 PM
Nah, Ace Duck's cool. I always did wonder why he never had a true appearance in any of the shows. I theorize that it might be that because back in the late 80s/early 90s, for some reason, cartoons were obsessed with ducks. Duck Tales, Darkwing Duck, Count Duckula, a sports team/movie called the Mighty Ducks... the list goes on. Maybe they were afraid that their duck character would be lost in a sea of similar characters?
Thanks for the laugh.
I am dead. Smurfing. Serious. Want me to show you fan art?
Shark_Blade
05-05-2014, 04:25 PM
Spare me the excruciating pain, and this isn't the place for it.
We're talking about Ace Duck here, see? Which is far more appealing than Venus tbh.
CyberCubed
05-05-2014, 04:37 PM
I honestly think people hate Ace Duck because he doesn't look like a TMNT character. As said he was created as a response to the popularity of Disney's duck characters in the 80's like Scrooge Mcduck, Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Talespin, etc.
Literally half the Disney cartoons in the 80's had a goddamn duck character.
blindturtle02
05-05-2014, 04:45 PM
Nah, I bet a tun of people are suffering from anatidaephobia and taking it out on poor Ace! I got bit by one of the little jerks as a kid and turned out okay. Folks need to be showing our fine feathered friend some love. Do they really want a grenade flinging duck angry at them?
Metalwolf
05-05-2014, 05:04 PM
Nah, I bet a tun of people are suffering from anatidaephobia and taking it out on poor Ace! I got bit by one of the little jerks as a kid and turned out okay. Folks need to be showing our fine feathered friend some love. Do they really want a grenade flinging duck angry at them?I like ducks, if they are Pekinged or smothered in an orange sauce. Plus their fat is good in pastries. :D
rickwj324
05-06-2014, 06:57 AM
I always thought Ace was one of the cooler figures, whether he was on the show or not. I know my 2 nephews who were young enough to play with the toys back then both loved him as a figure.
Discogod
05-06-2014, 01:46 PM
Nah, I bet a tun of people are suffering from anatidaephobia and taking it out on poor Ace!
Been reading "The Far Side"?:P
tfranzone
05-06-2014, 02:34 PM
I was always thrown by Ace not seeing him much as a kid at all, but he is a cool figure with the wings and bomb belt and all
ProactiveMan
05-07-2014, 05:06 AM
Who hates Ace Duck? OK, maybe he's not the most creative character ever, but I'd rather watch Ace Duck than any of the hundred, generic mad scientist characters.
Lou 500
05-07-2014, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the laugh.
*cough* (http://www.deviantart.com/?q=tmnt+venus)
MajorViolence
05-07-2014, 10:01 PM
I actually get a good laugh out of seeing Ace Duck get dumped on. Like someone else said, I had the action figure as a kid but otherwise had no idea who the hell he was, so I had no attachment to him.
I'm sure there are Marvel fans who also freak out when people dump on Howard the Duck (http://www.trueachievements.com/a180268/really-achievement.htm), but again, I absolutely love it.
Sumac
05-10-2014, 09:50 PM
ace duck always confused me as a kid cause i never saw him in the cartoon (or remembered seeing his cameo). but i had his toy so i've always known who he was.
I am familliar with this feeling. When I got my hands on the list of toys from Playmates, I was imensily confused about many characters like Panda Khan, Fugitoid, Ace Duck and others. I thought that they were in some episodes of the OT, that I missed somehow, but I was wrong.
Ace Duck looks hilarious with the gun and grenades. It's quite sad that he never appeared in any episode of the OT. But on the other he could have been confused with many other duck characters at the time.
Coola Yagami
05-11-2014, 10:22 PM
For whatever reason, he reminds me of Launchpad McQuack.
I also got the figure when it was new... and it was weird how he was the only character of the second wave to not get an episode. Krang was always in the show, it just took a while to release the figure. Genghis got his episode (with 3 other frogs). Baxter became a fly that same season. So um.... Ace Duck only got a cameo? And was that in season 2?
JakeSully
02-15-2015, 04:43 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-R38CBao36-A/UA6-_zuunjI/AAAAAAAABbg/4gcVxiv15uk/s1600/Ace89.jpg
Maybe it reminds someone too much of Howard the Duck...for some reason.
I always did thought of Howard since i got the toy and read the archie comics.
Look at this Mother F-cker right here. THAT is ACE effing Duck..
http://www.seibertron.com/images/ebay/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/ace-duck-complete-121217/DSC08767.jpg
Not afraid to wield a gun, and a handful of granades. He is after all a mercenary, all while looking like a true pro with his leather jacket to let people know he is an ace pilot. Those wings aren't just for show either, he can fly as well as he could a plane.
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/TNTSAdmin/Turtles%20Talk/AceFileCard.jpg
Now, let's take a look at his origin, after Krang has basically made ducks extinct in Dimension X, he decides to beam one from earth since his hunger is not satisfied until he gets exactly what he wants. Ace Conrad, badass test pilot was about to be given the promotion he deserved based on his amazing skills, and on his last run he is never heard of again. That's because he fused with the duck and became ACE DUCK. He ends up in the turtles lair. He now decides to use his new body and badass skills to become a mercenary. He won't take jobs that hurt innocent people though and will usually end up teaming up with the turtles, as long as he's paid.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070624055924/tmnt/images/d/db/Ace_duck_cartoon.jpg
He was considered too violent by network standards of its time so the OT crew had to reduce his role in the show, in this version instead of being a gun for hire, he decides to act and becomes a famous tv/movie star. Despite being a mutant and all the prejudices. Like at everything, he becomes a top actor in record time.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/13/132162/2860391-tmnt_universe_sourcebook__0___page_3.png
What about Archie? A joke you say? Look at that badass over there, all beefed up and ready to fight. In here he is an intergalactic wrestler who has won all the top titles of the GALAXY and defended them against creatures all over the turtles multiverse, you have to remember Cudley the cowlick brings the top contenders from the multiverse, not even the Battle Nexus can compare, that sh-t is like the little leagues compared to it. In just one panel he quickly manhandles Leatherhead as if he were nothing. This ain't no WWE/UFC sh-t, he would make Lesnar tap out in seconds.
http://www.tomopop.com/ul/16472-custom-ace-ducks-proves-ace-should-have-his-own-toy-line/90783-550x.jpg
Since Playmates or any toy company could not handle making a new Ace Duck figure that would be accurate at all, You'll find only customs which you'll find plenty of can attempt to replicate a glimpse of him in plastic form.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0HjzOP1Z-Z0/UgAUfwVSb8I/AAAAAAAACy4/8YJ1AC2pzjE/s400/024-TMNT-+ACE_DUCK-TEMPLATED+copy.jpg
Ace Duck's legacy continues to live on through fans hearts, with constant fanfics and art, since not even the gritty Mirage universe would be able to handle him.
Nick's Shredder was a fool not to attempt at getting his version of Ace Duck, then again what more can we expect from him, he can have fun with spyderbytes or whatever Jar Jar Binks knock off he chooses instead.
I know what you mean, but if they did bring him back. I'd think he be cooler.
neatoman
02-15-2015, 04:58 AM
I don't really think Ace Duck is hated, it's just that Ducks are considered to be funny animals and you think of characters like Donald Duck when you think anthropomorphic ducks. He's just really to make fun of that's all.
Here's an Ace Duck piece by Ben Bates.
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/057/9/4/tmnt_countdown_request_02_by_anubithefrog-d5wbo0k.jpg
MsMarvelDuckie
02-16-2015, 02:38 PM
I actually get a good laugh out of seeing Ace Duck get dumped on. Like someone else said, I had the action figure as a kid but otherwise had no idea who the hell he was, so I had no attachment to him.
I'm sure there are Marvel fans who also freak out when people dump on Howard the Duck (http://www.trueachievements.com/a180268/really-achievement.htm), but again, I absolutely love it.
Don't be dissin on my family! Howard is a cool guy, once ya get to know him!
For whatever reason, he reminds me of Launchpad McQuack.
Well- they WERE both pilots, and look a lot alike in design. Suddenly, I think Launchpad might have been the main reason he never got an episode- I doubt FW would have wanted the headaches a lawsuit from Disney over character copyright would have caused.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-16-2015, 03:12 PM
... You, sir, have completely sold me on the awesomeness of this character. I now want him to appear in the IDW comics! Old Hob's right-wing right-hand man!!!
Look at this Mother F-cker right here. THAT is ACE effing Duck..
http://www.seibertron.com/images/ebay/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/ace-duck-complete-121217/DSC08767.jpg
Not afraid to wield a gun, and a handful of granades. He is after all a mercenary, all while looking like a true pro with his leather jacket to let people know he is an ace pilot. Those wings aren't just for show either, he can fly as well as he could a plane.
http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/TNTSAdmin/Turtles%20Talk/AceFileCard.jpg
Now, let's take a look at his origin, after Krang has basically made ducks extinct in Dimension X, he decides to beam one from earth since his hunger is not satisfied until he gets exactly what he wants. Ace Conrad, badass test pilot was about to be given the promotion he deserved based on his amazing skills, and on his last run he is never heard of again. That's because he fused with the duck and became ACE DUCK. He ends up in the turtles lair. He now decides to use his new body and badass skills to become a mercenary. He won't take jobs that hurt innocent people though and will usually end up teaming up with the turtles, as long as he's paid.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070624055924/tmnt/images/d/db/Ace_duck_cartoon.jpg
He was considered too violent by network standards of its time so the OT crew had to reduce his role in the show, in this version instead of being a gun for hire, he decides to act and becomes a famous tv/movie star. Despite being a mutant and all the prejudices. Like at everything, he becomes a top actor in record time.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/13/132162/2860391-tmnt_universe_sourcebook__0___page_3.png
What about Archie? A joke you say? Look at that badass over there, all beefed up and ready to fight. In here he is an intergalactic wrestler who has won all the top titles of the GALAXY and defended them against creatures all over the turtles multiverse, you have to remember Cudley the cowlick brings the top contenders from the multiverse, not even the Battle Nexus can compare, that sh-t is like the little leagues compared to it. In just one panel he quickly manhandles Leatherhead as if he were nothing. This ain't no WWE/UFC sh-t, he would make Lesnar tap out in seconds.
http://www.tomopop.com/ul/16472-custom-ace-ducks-proves-ace-should-have-his-own-toy-line/90783-550x.jpg
Since Playmates or any toy company could not handle making a new Ace Duck figure that would be accurate at all, You'll find only customs which you'll find plenty of can attempt to replicate a glimpse of him in plastic form.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0HjzOP1Z-Z0/UgAUfwVSb8I/AAAAAAAACy4/8YJ1AC2pzjE/s400/024-TMNT-+ACE_DUCK-TEMPLATED+copy.jpg
Ace Duck's legacy continues to live on through fans hearts, with constant fanfics and art, since not even the gritty Mirage universe would be able to handle him.
Nick's Shredder was a fool not to attempt at getting his version of Ace Duck, then again what more can we expect from him, he can have fun with spyderbytes or whatever Jar Jar Binks knock off he chooses instead.
Huzzah
02-19-2015, 02:39 AM
Ace Duck was a figure I wanted as a kid, but never got. I loved how he looked, in my own little head canon of TMNT using various figures from different generations of the Turtles, I actually pair him off with Tiger Claw, in an alternate World War 2 history, mind you the characters are considered merely comic book and movie characters in the modern TMNT world, due to history and governments hiding the existence of Mutants.
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