Script transcript

[samxsteal]

White draft - 4/23/13
CONTINUED

Raph:
Spoken like a true Boy scout

Leo:
You think I asked to be the Leader of this outfit. Raph? You think i wanted this? Splinter chose Me. I'm Just Doing My duty.

Mikey:
Ha. Doodie

Raph:
Some "duty" - Risking our necks every night for surface-dwellers who'd lock us up in a zoo, or worse, if they knew we existed. You saw how that chick looked at us......
{stepping INTO THE LIGHT}
...like we were freaks

The other turtle fallow raphael into the light. Leonardo shakes his head, disapointed in his brother. And is the first time we've really seen the turtles out of the shadows. They look like heroes, but i different kind of hero. They don't relish their victory. They're just teenagers, They're Freaking tired. And they want to unwind

Mikey:
Maybe if we save enough people, if we do enough good, we'll be accepted up there, Whaddya think.....?

Donnie:
Grow up Mikey....

Leo:
I think... That we must be doing this for a reason. I just dont know what that reason is...

The turtle shuffle into their lair. Leo keeps his armor and Swords strapped on, but the other start slowly tossing off their armor and their weapons

Splinter: The bonds of family are stronger than steek...

The turtles spin back..As SPLINTER step out of the dark. The humanoid version of the lab rat we met in OUR opening. Mutated and wizened, with brown hair, gray in places, scoliosis back, four feet tall, carrying a walking stick
EDITED

That all i got

[Vicky82]

Glad this got a new thread, Didn't want to reply in the other thread

You can't really base a script on how long into a movie.

Movie scripts are over 100 pages, which have to include discription of scenes and dialogue so you you have to cram a lot into a script and they are written spaced out so page 24 could be 15/20 minutes into the film. 30 minutes into the film (i'm just guessing) probably be page 40

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

On average, one page of a script is one minute. That's at least what I learned in theatre, not sure if it applies to film.

[MajorViolence]

It's an industry standard. It's not a hard rule, but generally speaking scripts are expected to adhere to it within reason.

[ninja-zero]

Is there a script where April is introduced to the turtles?

Like how the autobots introduced themselves to Sam?

My guess:
April regains conscious as she finds out she's in the turtles lair. At first when they saw her awoke, she was scared of them until Splinter comes and offers her some tea.

Later on, he explains their origin to her; where they came from. She realizes that Splinter & the turtles were the same animals in the lab. Then Splinter introduces the turtles to April:

Splinter: My eldest son... Leonardo of the katana.
Leo: It's an honor to meet you. Call me Leo.
Splinter: His youngest brother, the smart one... Donatello of the bo staff.
Donnie: Who would've thought the first human would be so... I mean... call me Donnie.
Splinter: The arrogant yet strong of the bunch... Raphael of the sai.
Raph: 'Sup! You don't look so bad.
Mikey: Heeeyyyy!!!
Splinter: (giggling) You already met the last of the young brothers, Michelangelo.
Leo, Raph & Donnie: Call him Mikey!
Mikey: Sorry 'bout the scare earlier. Guess that first impression didn't go well.

April: So.... am I a prisoner here?
Leo: Not at all. Guess to us, you're the first human to ever understand our existence. Nobody does anyway.
Mikey: You're welcome here anytime, girlfriend!
Raph: Ignore Mikey, your life will be a lot easier.

[sethmartin]

Where did this come from?

[samxsteal]

Is there a script where April is introduced to the turtles?

Like how the autobots introduced themselves to Sam?

this is purely based on this video
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[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

"Ha. Doodle." ... :ohwell:

It's a Mikey thing to say, but ... really?

[ninja-zero]

Where did this come from?


Its just a guess I had in mind.

[Cure]

"Script transcript" is redundant.

[MajorViolence]

"Ha. Doodle." ... :ohwell:

It's a Mikey thing to say, but ... really?

Nice of them to throw in some jokes for viewers with a single-digit IQ.

[sethmartin]

So Splinter DOES start out as a lab rat in this! IDW anyone....

[Vicky82]

Hmm I didn't notice that about Splinter.

I'm getting that IDW story vibe, which I guessed weeks ago that the movie could be mix of Mirage,OT and IDW versions .

[NinjaPug]

Wait, what exactly is this?

[samxsteal]

"Ha. Doodle." ... :ohwell:

It's a Mikey thing to say, but ... really?
Well to be honest Im pretty sure i have Heard this exact joke from mikey in the nick show or something similar as well as similar jokes in just about every version so yeah it childish but its mikey lol.
"Script transcript" is redundant.I know sorry

So Splinter DOES start out as a lab rat in this! IDW anyone....

HAHA yup the concept art even looks like IDW splinter so that pretty cool

[sethmartin]

Also in the IDW storyline, Splinter remembers his former life but the Turtles do not. One of the lines - "I think... That we must be doing this for a reason. I just dont know what that reason is..." is another possible clue that it's IDW based.

[electric_sheep]

thats not funny using cancer like that what if a loved one of yours had it ??????? back to topic now i want this book but cant buy it owell

What did the boy with no arms and no legs get for Christmas?
Cancer...

[Vicky82]

So page 24 could mean on average 24 mins into the film, doesn't sound too bad for a possible 2 hour film. I expect the first 24 mins will consist of a flashback, Megan Fox, Subway fight then we see the turtles.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

So page 24 could mean on average 24 mins into the film, doesn't sound too bad for a possible 2 hour film. I expect the first 24 mins will consist of a flashback, Megan Fox, Subway fight then we see the turtles.
That isn't that bad if you ask me.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

2 hours seemed long to me at first, longer than any previous turtle film, but then I realized that's become standard for just about any film lately.

Still 1/4th of the film without the turtles? Depends entirely on how they pull it off. Could work, though.

[samxsteal]

So page 24 could mean on average 24 mins into the film, doesn't sound too bad for a possible 2 hour film. I expect the first 24 mins will consist of a flashback, Megan Fox, Subway fight then we see the turtles.

That isn't that bad if you ask me.

Agree if that is the case which i dont think it will be but who knows But like i said in the other thread if we get sneaky sneaky turtle kick but from the shadows as well as fluffy plot build up, then 20-30 min doesn't seem bad to me. And there is obviously there is action leading up to that point and im betting there is even more than just the subway scene. Plus people saying the huge hulk turtle who are invulnerable obviously not.

[graphic_content]

Also in the IDW storyline, Splinter remembers his former life but the Turtles do not. One of the lines - "I think... That we must be doing this for a reason. I just dont know what that reason is..." is another possible clue that it's IDW based.

dude, stop, I LOVE the IDW books, and you're getting me hyped, lol. cant be hyped at work, i'll scare people.

So page 24 could mean on average 24 mins into the film, doesn't sound too bad for a possible 2 hour film. I expect the first 24 mins will consist of a flashback, Megan Fox, Subway fight then we see the turtles.

That isn't that bad if you ask me.

i thought at first that 25, possibly 30 mins into the film was bad, especially when compared to the original, where they made an appearance less than 10 minutes in...but if this is a retelling of their origins, then set-up is required. Everyone keeps comparing this film to the first Amazing Spiderman, and yes, we saw Peter Parker, but he didnt start out with his abilities, the story had to build. So I'm prepared to put my stop watch down so long as their backstory gets treated well.

[RedRocBoy]

White draft - 4/23/13
CONTINUED

Raph:
Spoken like a true Boy scout

Leo:
You think I asked to be the Leader of this outfit. Raph? You think i wanted this? Splinter chose Me. I'm Just Doing My duty.

Mikey:
Ha. Doodie

Raph:
Some "duty" - Risking our necks every night for surface-dwellers who'd lock us up in a zoo, or worse, if they knew we existed. You saw how that chick looked at us......
{stepping INTO THE LIGHT}
...like we were freaks

The other turtle fallow raphael into the light. Leonardo shakes his head, disapointed in his brother. And is the first time we've really seen the turtles out of the shadows. They look like heroes, but i different kind of hero. They don't relish their victory. They're just teenagers, They're Freaking tired. And they want to unwind

Mikey:
Maybe if we save enough people, if we do enough good, we'll be accepted up there, Whaddya think.....?

Donnie:
Grow up Mikey....

Leo:
I think... That we must be doing this for a reason. I just dont know what that reason is...

The turtle shuffle into their lair. Leo keeps his armor and Swords strapped on, but the other start slowly tossing off their armor and their weapons

Splinter: The bonds of family are stronger than steek...

The turtles spin back..As SPLINTER step out of the dark. The humanoid version of the lab rat we met in OUR opening. Mutated and wizened, with brown hair, gray in places, scoliosis back, four feet tall, carrying a walking stick
EDITED

That all i got
Is there a way we can just skip June and July? Jesus Christ I'm so ready for this movie.:tcry::tcry::tcry::tcry::tcry:

Well to be honest Im pretty sure i have Heard this exact joke from mikey in the nick show or something similar as well as similar jokes in just about every version so yeah it childish but its mikey lol.
I know sorry



HAHA yup the concept art even looks like IDW splinter so that pretty cool

Man I swear. Why do people even comment ifvthere so beyond this movie. Go make your own fan film. Geez!!! :trolleye::trolleye::trolleye:

[Vicky82]

Is there a way we can just skip June and July? Jesus Christ I'm so ready for this movie.:tcry::tcry::tcry::tcry::tcry:

At least you get to see this in August, I (and everyone else from UK) can't see it till October.

[RedRocBoy]

2 hours seemed long to me at first, longer than any previous turtle film, but then I realized that's become standard for just about any film lately.

Still 1/4th of the film without the turtles? Depends entirely on how they pull it off. Could work, though.

Yezzir :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:

At least you get to see this in August, I (and everyone else from UK) can't see it till October.

Holy crap. So sorry for the UK fans.:tcry::tcry::tcry::tcry:

[Fjaj]

The turtle shuffle into their lair. Leo keeps his armor and Swords strapped on, but the other start slowly tossing off their armor and their weapons
Looks like we'll finally have the turtles take off their weapons/armor when their in their layer like in the comics.

[GrapeSoda]

Man I swear. Why do people even comment ifvthere so beyond this movie. Go make your own fan film. Geez!!! :trolleye::trolleye::trolleye:

why do you insist on fanning the flames?

[TigerClaw]

What am I looking at here, bits from the rejected script or something that was leaked from a new script of the new movie?

[electric_sheep]

What am I looking at here, bits from the rejected script or something that was leaked from a new script of the new movie?
This is the actual script that they are using...

[samxsteal]

Looks like we'll finally have the turtles take off their weapons/armor when their in their layer like in the comics.

Agreed this is really cool addition

[TurtleTitan97]

What am I looking at here, bits from the rejected script or something that was leaked from a new script of the new movie?

It's the new script. That dialogue wasn't anywhere in the "Blue Door" script.

Also, "Doodie"? Seriously? :trolleye:

[Fjaj]

Someone did an early review of the ultimate visual history, which had a bit from the script, or at least an early draft. You can see more about it in "Official" thread, so this one is a bit redundant.

[TigerClaw]

I just watched the video review of that book, and it showed some images from the movie. There's an image with a truck and I think the Turtles are right on it.

[electric_sheep]

I just watched the video the video review of that book, and it showed some images from the movie. There's an image with a truck and I think the Turtles are right on it.

Same as in the leaked script, what a coinsedence?

[graphic_content]

Same as in the leaked script, what a coinsedence?

i read that sequence from the original script and it looked like the best part of the it - I honestly dont mind at all that they kept it in there.

I personally wonder what is meant by WHITE DRAFT?

Do colors indicate the state of rewrite it is in? can anyone shed light, SETHMARTIN? anyone who works in the industry?

[TigerClaw]

Here's the pic, I managed to screen capture it.

http://i57.tinypic.com/rhod2u.jpg

One of the Turtles on top of a big rig.

[samxsteal]

why do you insist on fanning the flames? sorry but he has a point doesn't matter how awesome something is some one comes in and kills it with something negative to say can we just have one day were its ok to be happy about something

What am I looking at here, bits from the rejected script or something that was leaked from a new script of the new movie?
Its from the Tmnt ultimate visual history which someone reviewed and video i freeze frame the shoot and read what was written
This is the actual script that they are using...
Yup
It's the new script. That dialogue wasn't anywhere in the "Blue Door" script.

Also, "Doodie"? Seriously? :trolleye:i know juvenile but its totally Mikey something i have heard him say before even

Someone did an early review of the ultimate visual history, which had a bit from the script, or at least an early draft. You can see more about it in "Official" thread, so this one is a bit redundant.
That thread is supposed to be for photos only moved the discussion here as to not clutter the photos
I just watched the video review of that book, and it showed some images from the movie. There's an image with a truck and I think the Turtles are right on it.
Yup as well as other concept photos and still of shredder and April.and a drawing of what looks like Eastman drew shredder


On my phone pleat forgive grammar this once please

[TigerClaw]

Why does this suddenly remind me of Doctor Claw. lol

http://i.imgur.com/lcjCnfK.jpg

[electric_sheep]

Why does this suddenly remind me of Doctor Claw. lol

http://i.imgur.com/lcjCnfK.jpg

Ahahhahaha, that's tottaly him...

Holly crap, i passed 1000 posts, how didn't i notice that?

[TurtleTitan97]

Yup
i know juvenile but its totally Mikey something i have heard him say before even




Doesn't mean I have to like it. It's a lame joke that I'm sure only little kids or immature teens or above will like.

[sethmartin]

i read that sequence from the original script and it looked like the best part of the it - I honestly dont mind at all that they kept it in there.

I personally wonder what is meant by WHITE DRAFT?

Do colors indicate the state of rewrite it is in? can anyone shed light, SETHMARTIN? anyone who works in the industry?

When a screenplay is approved for production, the scenes are assigned numbers which are included in the script alongside the scene headers. The numbers provide a convenient way for the various production departments to reference individual scenes.

After a shooting script has been widely circulated, page numbers are locked, and any revisions are distributed on revision pages. Thus the production office might issue a revision containing new pages 3, 9, 17 and 45. This avoids having to print and distribute an entirely new draft for every set of revisions, which would entail crew members having to transfer all their handwritten notes to a new script. If scenes on page 45 become longer, they will be continued on new pages 45A, 45B and so on; if the scenes on page 45 are all eliminated, a new page 45 will be issued with the word "OMITTED" as the absence of a page 45 might look like an error.

Revision pages are distributed on colored paper, a different color for each set of revisions, with each changed line marked by an asterisk in the right margin of the page. The progression of colors varies from one production to the next, but a typical sequence would be: white, blue, pink, yellow, green, goldenrod, buff, salmon, cherry, tan, ivory, white (this time known as "double white"), and back to blue ("double blue").

When the Assistant Director believes that there are more changed pages than are worth swapping out, the Script Coordinator may issue an entirely fresh script in the appropriate revision color. In some cases, usually before the start of principal photography, an entirely new "white draft" will be distributed in lieu of colored revision pages. The pages in a white draft are renumbered from scratch, while the original scene numbers are maintained.



That is taken from wikipedia but it does a better job explaining it than I can.

[GrapeSoda]

sorry but he has a point doesn't matter how awesome something is some one comes in and kills it with something negative to say can we just have one day were its ok to be happy about something


Its from the Tmnt ultimate visual history which someone reviewed and video i freeze frame the shoot and read what was written

Yup
i know juvenile but its totally Mikey something i have heard him say before even


That thread is supposed to be for photos only moved the discussion here as to not clutter the photos

Yup as well as other concept photos and still of shredder and April.and a drawing of what looks like Eastman drew shredder


On my phone pleat forgive grammar this once please
Sam, he was totally trolling. You know he was.


Why does this suddenly remind me of Doctor Claw. lol

http://i.imgur.com/lcjCnfK.jpg

I'll get you Gadget......

Ahahhahaha, that's tottaly him...

Holly crap, i passed 1000 posts, how didn't i notice that?

Congrats!

[electric_sheep]

When a screenplay is approved for production, the scenes are assigned numbers which are included in the script alongside the scene headers. The numbers provide a convenient way for the various production departments to reference individual scenes.

After a shooting script has been widely circulated, page numbers are locked, and any revisions are distributed on revision pages. Thus the production office might issue a revision containing new pages 3, 9, 17 and 45. This avoids having to print and distribute an entirely new draft for every set of revisions, which would entail crew members having to transfer all their handwritten notes to a new script. If scenes on page 45 become longer, they will be continued on new pages 45A, 45B and so on; if the scenes on page 45 are all eliminated, a new page 45 will be issued with the word "OMITTED" as the absence of a page 45 might look like an error.

Revision pages are distributed on colored paper, a different color for each set of revisions, with each changed line marked by an asterisk in the right margin of the page. The progression of colors varies from one production to the next, but a typical sequence would be: white, blue, pink, yellow, green, goldenrod, buff, salmon, cherry, tan, ivory, white (this time known as "double white"), and back to blue ("double blue").

When the Assistant Director believes that there are more changed pages than are worth swapping out, the Script Coordinator may issue an entirely fresh script in the appropriate revision color. In some cases, usually before the start of principal photography, an entirely new "white draft" will be distributed in lieu of colored revision pages. The pages in a white draft are renumbered from scratch, while the original scene numbers are maintained.



That is taken from wikipedia but it does a better job explaining it than I can.

Sooo does this mean that orginal script didn't see the shredder and was only revisioned?

[Warhorse]

sorry but he has a point doesn't matter how awesome something is some one comes in and kills it with something negative to say can we just have one day were its ok to be happy about something

Well, it is an open forum, and if you want to have nothing but positive feedback, I suggest you go to proboards and make up your own forum so that you are the moderator and can ban anyone that says anything negative.

People do have a right to their opinions and feelings, and I think you need to respect that, because right now, you are not.

[d_osborn]

Sooo does this mean that orginal script didn't see the shredder and was only revisioned?
Scenes and set pieces can survive complete rewrites. The Blue Door script was a legit draft, which means previs was probably going on during that time. Just because set pieces remain doesn't mean that the entire story and details are the same.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Scenes and set pieces can survive complete rewrites. The Blue Door script was a legit draft, which means previs was probably going on during that time. Just because set pieces remain doesn't mean that the entire story and details are the same.

As evidenced by the fact that the Blue Door didn't have Eric Sachs at all. What remains to be seen is how much of the Blue Door they kept and just revised to swap a few roles. Shredder & the military foot replace Bebop and Rocksteady in the sewer lair invasion against Splinter, for example.

The snow escape is potentially taken directly from the script, though how much in its entirety is the question.

I'm wondering where the snow scene takes place too. In the Blue Door it was in Michigan.

Just for kicks and giggles, I decided to take a spin editing the Blue Door script myself. Will see how that turns out. ;)

And on the photo of the 18 Wheeler, the opposite page, why is Raph's plastron gray/black? Poor coloring in the print or is he wearing something? It definitely isn't that dark in the trailers.

[TigerClaw]

Scenes and set pieces can survive complete rewrites. The Blue Door script was a legit draft, which means previs was probably going on during that time. Just because set pieces remain doesn't mean that the entire story and details are the same.
True, They probably just took the set pieces and applied it to a new Script with a totally different story.

Sometimes they would right action scenes before they come up with a story, They would create stuff around those set pieces.

[sethmartin]

Sooo does this mean that orginal script didn't see the shredder and was only revisioned?

Doesn't necessarily mean that, but it's possible.

[graphic_content]

That is taken from wikipedia but it does a better job explaining it than I can.

thanks bro - i love behind the scenes stuff. my work never got that complicated, but then again, the only audience my stuff ever saw was a handful of people on youtube.

Sooo does this mean that orginal script didn't see the shredder and was only revisioned?

i see what you did there. that made me chuckle. i hope it was intentional, if not, still pretty funny.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I just realized...

If the first 20-30 minutes is development and establishment before we really get the turtles involved, that's 1/4 of the movie at 2 hours.

Then we have the three captured and we'll spend another 20ish? minutes for Raph, April, and Vernon to save them.

Am I really going to get a TMNT movie with half the film putting Leo (plus Mike & Don) out of action. :tmad:

[MajorViolence]

I just realized...

If the first 20-30 minutes is development and establishment before we really get the turtles involved, that's 1/4 of the movie at 2 hours.

Then we have the three captured and we'll spend another 20ish? minutes for Raph, April, and Vernon to save them.

Am I really going to get a TMNT movie with half the film putting Leo (plus Mike & Don) out of action. :tmad:

Oh **** that's a really good point. With the whole "Raph rescuing the others" subplot, that's going to add up to take a huge cut into the action involving those three.

[electric_sheep]

I just realized...

If the first 20-30 minutes is development and establishment before we really get the turtles involved, that's 1/4 of the movie at 2 hours.

Then we have the three captured and we'll spend another 20ish? minutes for Raph, April, and Vernon to save them.

Am I really going to get a TMNT movie with half the film putting Leo (plus Mike & Don) out of action. :tmad:

But dude, you are getting Megan's birchy face, how can;t you like that?

[NoName999]

^^^So basically the X-Men movies

[electric_sheep]

Scenes and set pieces can survive complete rewrites. The Blue Door script was a legit draft, which means previs was probably going on during that time. Just because set pieces remain doesn't mean that the entire story and details are the same.

Important plot point's are also in this, Megan moving, captured turles and more.. So it's not only set peaces..

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I just realized...

If the first 20-30 minutes is development and establishment before we really get the turtles involved, that's 1/4 of the movie at 2 hours.

Then we have the three captured and we'll spend another 20ish? minutes for Raph, April, and Vernon to save them.

Am I really going to get a TMNT movie with half the film putting Leo (plus Mike & Don) out of action. :tmad:

Shhhh...you're not allowed to think like that. You have to be Super Duper Ultra Mega Positive, Bro :tcool:

[SwiftNinjaFox]

^^^So basically the X-Men movies

Yeah, I've referred to Wolveraphael before when grumbling that I expected the movie to be focused on him.

And you know he'll be the focus whenever they bring in Casey.

Curse you Wolveraphael!

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Yeah, I've referred to Wolveraphael before when grumbling that I expected the movie to be focused on him.

And you know he'll be the focus whenever they bring in Casey.

Curse you Wolveraphael!

I wish. They even let Wolverine kill when he had to in the films. I doubt that'd let Raphael kill in any flick.

[NoName999]

Don't worry, there will be horrible deaths in this.

Transformers had it. I don't see TMNT 2014 not having it.

[MajorViolence]

Don't worry, there will be horrible deaths in this

I have so many jokes and I can't pick one.

My childhood
Megan Fox's career
Michael Bay's reputation
The Ninja Turtles Franchise
Every viewer's intelligence
Laird's last nerve

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I have so many jokes and I can't pick one.

My childhood
Megan Fox's career
Michael Bay's reputation
The Ninja Turtles Franchise
Every viewer's intelligence
Laird's last nerve


C'mon now. You know that Michael Bay's reputation will never die :lol:

[demonsweat]

Eh, reads like mediocre fanfic. Clever dialogue is the last thing I expected from this camp, but it's still disappointing. The banter between the turtles, when done well, is one of my favorite things about the property in general.

I expect this movie to have good CGI and visual effects, but I can't say this excerpt leaves me with a good taste in my mouth. :ohwell:

[MajorViolence]

C'mon now. You know that Michael Bay's reputation will never die :lol:

Can't kill what's already dead! http://i.imgur.com/qKI2IWT.gif

[samxsteal]

Seriously THere are not enough Face palms in the world for the out right crazyness the thread has turned into.


Its like leaches purposely trying to suck the happiness out of any thread

SMH wow

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Seriously THere are not enough Face palms in the world for the out right crazyness the thread has turned into.


Its like leaches purposely trying to suck the happiness out of any thread

SHM wow

Then just use the Ignore button and put people who are Negative about the film on "Ignore". Thus you won't see our posts.

[electric_sheep]

Then just use the Ignore button and put people who are Negative about the film on "Ignore". Thus you won't see our posts.

It's his thread, i would be mad to...

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

It's his thread, i would be mad to...

So he thinks every person is going to be Positive about the changes? Or by what they see? Or by what is found out? Or about dialogue involving "Doodie"?

No, they are going to be honest.

And if the guy wants to reply to every single person who says something negative and gives their Honest Opinion about it, then that's his choice.

And if he's that excited, then seriously why does he Care? It's a forum. Room for debating, which is what most of us are doing.

If someone is that excited and that Gung Ho about it, then nobody and nothing is going to 'suck the happiness' out of you. No matter what is said or done.

[electric_sheep]

So he thinks every person is going to be Positive about it?

No, they are going to be honest.

And if the guy wants to reply to every single person who says something negative and gives their Honest Opinion about it, then that's his choice.

And if he's that excited, they seriously why does he Care?

If someone is that excited and that Gung Ho about it, then nobody and nothing is going to 'suck the happiness' out of you. No matter what is said or done.
It's not the negativity it's that thread is derailed all the way off the cliff...

[sethmartin]

I'm dying to know the origin of these turtles and Splinter. Just based on this one page, it seems they have changed a lot. "Lab rat" mutates into Splinter. At least we know that Splinter starts out as a rat so he's probably NOT April's father lol. I'm thinking the origin is IDW. Any other speculations? I wonder if we will see Splinter appoint Leo as the leader.

The "Doodie" joke sounds like it was lifted from the Howard Stern show. I listen to howard all the time and they always repeat "Duty' and snicker whenever someone says it.

[electric_sheep]

I'm dying to know the origin of these turtles and Splinter. Just based on this one page, it seems they have changed a lot. "Lab rat" mutates into Splinter. At least we know that Splinter starts out as a rat so he's probably NOT April's father lol. I'm thinking the origin is IDW. Any other speculations? I wonder if we will see Splinter appoint Leo as the leader.

THey given us nothing, apsolutly nothing, there's nothing to speculate about, this is ridicilous...

The "Doodie" joke sounds like it was lifted from the Howard Stern show. I listen to howard all the time and they always repeat "Duty' and snicker whenever someone says it.

Actualy it's a joke from Wreck it Raph,

Raph say's it's my duty
And she sayes Doody
And Raph sayes Grow up

[MajorViolence]

I'm dying to know the origin of these turtles and Splinter. Just based on this one page, it seems they have changed a lot. "Lab rat" mutates into Splinter. At least we know that Splinter starts out as a rat so he's probably NOT April's father lol. I'm thinking the origin is IDW. Any other speculations? I wonder if we will see Splinter appoint Leo as the leader.

Actually, while I really don't think Splinter actually will be April's father, there's always the possibility that the lab rat is what April's father touches last before touching the ooze. So it really doesn't rule out anything.

[sethmartin]

We have 3 trailers (or 2 and a half really), tons of set photos, and now a leaked page from the script. That's certainly not enough info to know the entire plot of the movie but it's definitely enough to speculate for fun. :)

[electric_sheep]

We have 3 trailers (or 2 and a half really), tons of set photos, and now a leaked page from the script. That's certainly not enough info to know the entire plot of the movie but it's definitely enough to speculate for fun. :)

3 trailer's all the same, all the realesed photos where of the Megan Fox, we don't have as much as a snippet of a plot :D

[sethmartin]

Actualy it's a joke from Wreck it Raph,

Raph say's it's my duty
And she sayes Doody
And Raph sayes Grow up

They may have used that joke in Wreck it Ralph but they were using it on the Stern show decades before that movie came out.

[TigerClaw]

If the origin is based on IDW, I have no problem with it, Cause it does help explain why Splinter knows Martial Arts.

[samxsteal]

Then just use the Ignore button and put people who are Negative about the film on "Ignore". Thus you won't see our posts.I dont care If you negative But why why why do you have to go into EVERY freaking thread We start new threads excited about it And it goes from this is awesome to this is DOG **** with next to reason we get it you dont like it then freaking go post some where about something you enjoy you dont because you enjoy purposelu talking crap about this movie you say it not but that BS you know it is why spend so much ENERGY TALK negative about SOmething you yourself proclaim to hate so much. Because you like making people like me and the possitive crowd up set seriously.

It doesn't matter what thread it is It could be freaking both Peter and kevin Hugging it out and pete say hey i actually watched it it was fantastic and you'd still crap all over it seriously SHM

WHY waist time on something you CLEARLY HATE. Guh makes no since

These are a fan board a movie FAN board where FANS can get excited and Talk EXCITEDLY about the movie they ENJOY seeing, we try we try everyday and then people come in "****" "crap" "turd" "terrible" "wack" "stupid" is all a hear when ever you're in any thread in the movie section.



It's his thread, i would be mad to...Seriously

So he thinks every person is going to be Positive about the changes? Or by what they see? Or by what is found out? Or about dialogue involving "Doodie"?

No, they are going to be honest.

And if the guy wants to reply to every single person who says something negative and gives their Honest Opinion about it, then that's his choice.

And if he's that excited, then seriously why does he Care? It's a forum. Room for debating, which is what most of us are doing.

If someone is that excited and that Gung Ho about it, then nobody and nothing is going to 'suck the happiness' out of you. No matter what is said or done.Honest is fine Say you dislike it move on to something constructive. DO you not go and talk excitedly about other movies on other board cuz your excited for them< well me and many many many more are excited and would Appreciate being able to do that in an environment in which is not toxic.

I respond to insesant complaints that are trivial or based on No evidence. I do this on twitter all the time and you know what plenty of people have said you know what that fixes the issue i had Not all but many.


And DEBATE there is NO DEBATING WITH YOU. you have your mind made up I give reasonably Example all the time ALL THE TIME. You ignore them

Its a fan board FAN well We're FANS of the movie, your not a FAN of the movie go to a different section and talk about something you are a FAN of.

If your interested in the movie then constructive criticisms are fine but I haven't heard anything constructive from you

It's not the negativity it's that thread is derailed all the way off the cliff...

This two

I'm dying to know the origin of these turtles and Splinter. Just based on this one page, it seems they have changed a lot. "Lab rat" mutates into Splinter. At least we know that Splinter starts out as a rat so he's probably NOT April's father lol. I'm thinking the origin is IDW. Any other speculations? I wonder if we will see Splinter appoint Leo as the leader.

Agree A Positive aspect they Ignore in favor of picking apart other element that aren't concrete and left open to plenty speculation so bad that Speculation is Bays stupid Johnathan has no idea what hes doing,m The designers who spent 100 of hr have o idea what they're doing when animating, What about all the good stuff You very except to see.

[DioLeo451]

Honestly this makes me smile:)

[MajorViolence]

I dont care If you negative But why why why do you have to go into EVERY freaking thread

Wait... aren't you in every thread praising/defending this movie?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

SHM wow

Nothing to do with anything, but I have seen SHM a few times lately and I'm not familiar with that one.

Anyone care to enlighten me on this anacronym?

[demonsweat]

Actualy it's a joke from Wreck it Raph,

Raph say's it's my duty
And she sayes Doody
And Raph sayes Grow up

http://i.imgur.com/p9B7mm1.jpg

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Nothing to do with anything, but I have seen SHM a few times lately and I'm not familiar with that one.

Anyone care to enlighten me on this anacronym?

I thought it was Shaking My Head but that would be SMH...not sure what SHM is...

[MajorViolence]

I dont care that you don't agree I care that many ignore anything possitve and even say countless time they dont care for the movie or any aspect.

IF YOU DONT CARE WHY ARE YOU HERE

Because I'm a fan of the Ninja Turtles. That's actually why I don't like this project.

[demonsweat]

its not being a cheerleader it a FAN being a FAN just like FAN reacts to something they Enjoy being attacked. Right?

But many poster Go beyond this I think me and you have had good discussions before and you seem open to Certain Ideas

As for many other users I just dont see anything Open about they was they Discuss this movie Its either bad Or Ignored


Yeah, but the point is, we're also fans. I've got 25 years of TMNT love under my belt and think that entitles me (and others) to have a voice here, regardless of whether or not we like or dislike something. Every single topic here has some sort of debate. I love the Nick show to death, but you don't see me jumping down the throats of everyone critical of it.

In other words: chillax, bro. We are all fans. No need to let the opinions of others get to you so much. 8)

[graphic_content]

I dont care that you don't agree I care that many ignore anything possitve and even say countless time they dont care for the movie or any aspect.

IF YOU DONT CARE WHY ARE YOU HERE

Because I'm a fan of the Ninja Turtles. That's actually why I don't like this project.

Here's he thing guys...I'm all for open debate/discussion...but like Sam, I wonder why some of people who don't like this film spend any time here, and by here I mean specifically the movie thread.

Case in point, I don't care much for the new Nick show, loved the 2k3, and you won't find me on those threads.

I asked TRICKORTREATER once why he stays, and he said in the hopes that something would change his mind, but honestly guys, with everything you've seen so far, does anyone here really think something is gonna magically change their mind/feelings toward the movie.

Nothing against you MAJOR, really, I'm just speaking in generalities.

[Jester]

Sam...this is a fan fourm, you are right. A forum for Turtle FANS of all stripes. Fans who love or hate the Mirage Comics, fans who like or dislike the FW series, fans who like or dislike new Nick series and this new movie.

We may not be fans of this movie...but we are fans of the franchise. We care (good or ill) because it's Turtles. Some LOVE every element because it's Turtles. Some dislike most of what we've seen because of what they are doing to the Turtles.

A fan forum is a place where discussion happens, by both people who will like what you like and will also NOT like what you like. It's life. Powder and I disagree on plenty of stuff, but we're still chummy. I'm sure there are things we'd actually agree with wholeheartedly. It's the way people are.

Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean you call for them to be shut down. It's not just a forum for fans of just the movie. It's a forum for fans of the Turtles to discuss the movie. What they like....and yes...even what they don't like.

Locked until tomorrow so you guys can cool down.

[sethmartin]

Wouldn't it be funny if the movie turned out to please all of the naysayers and all of the optimistic people end up hating it. It could happen if your expectations are too low or too high. :)

[Jester]

Opened back up...keep it civil, guys.

[electric_sheep]

Wouldn't it be funny if the movie turned out to please all of the naysayers and all of the optimistic people end up hating it. It could happen if your expectations are too low or too high. :)

That will pretty much happen if the movie is horrible, if it's bad i'll be pleased because i won't have to eat my words and all the optimistic people will hate it...

[Shark_Blade]

OOhh really curious how these things got leaked. :D

I'm just skimming through, I don't want to be spoiled much. :tlove:

[graphic_content]

That will pretty much happen if the movie is horrible, if it's bad i'll be pleased because i won't have to eat my words and all the optimistic people will hate it...

thing is, whether or not the movie is any good, is in the eye of the beholder. so its as much up for debate opening day as anything we are all talking about now. nothing is really trustyworthy, critics get things wrong, even the sales figures arent a good indicator of the qualtiy, just the popularity. im willing to be that come opening day, you still wont like it, and i still will. its just the way it goes.

OOhh really curious how these things got leaked. :D

I'm just skimming through, I don't want to be spoiled much. :tlove:

a page of the script comes with the new VISUAL HISTORY book releasing in celebration of the 30th anniversary. a rep from comicsalliance got an advanced copy and people, i think mainly ELECTRIC SHEEP and SAMXSTEAL, worked to enhance the pages from the video, and provide a clearer picture of it.

[samxsteal]

OOhh really curious how these things got leaked. :D

I'm just skimming through, I don't want to be spoiled much. :tlove:

No worries its nothing Spoiler ish at all

[ninja-zero]

Do you think it'll be almost like the classic 1989 movie?

Wonder how the turtles & Splinter will explain their origins to April.

Plus how the origins of Yoshi & Saki will be explained.

[RedRocBoy]

why do you insist on fanning the flames?

Sorry bro didn't mean to offend really. Just so tired of people prejudging the movie that's all. Really not trying to start anything. Sorry. :tsad::tsad::tsad:

[samxsteal]

Do you think it'll be almost like the classic 1989 movie?

Wonder how the turtles & Splinter will explain their origins to April.

Plus how the origins of Yoshi & Saki will be explained.

I think it will be Its own thing but tonally i would say it seems to be a more grounded feel a little gritty, while still being lighthearted,

im not sure really I think maybe the Mikey scene they take her to the lair Because she faints she wakes Ala 90s movie freaks out. But im not sure because vernon is in the lair while the break in happens so unless the visit the lair several times Im not sure.

There is the question, There alot of Evidence leading to a combination of 2k3 shredder and IDW splinter

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Do you think it'll be almost like the classic 1989 movie?

Wonder how the turtles & Splinter will explain their origins to April.

Plus how the origins of Yoshi & Saki will be explained.

I'm...real confused how/if Yoshi & Saki will fit into this, to be honest. Even the IDW angle leaves questions with the movie's apparent direction so far.

http://lotr.darthscreencapture.com/FOTR/D/60/d/gandalf_526.jpg

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I'm a bit confused on what this thread is about. Could someone explain it to me?

[MajorViolence]

The visual history book includes a page of the movie's script. The first post was that page's contents.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

The visual history book includes a page of the movie's script. The first post was that page's contents.

Right. Now i get it.

[GrapeSoda]

Sorry bro didn't mean to offend really. Just so tired of people prejudging the movie that's all. Really not trying to start anything. Sorry. :tsad::tsad::tsad:

it's cool, man. I wasn't offended. Your post read as combative, almost to the point of trolling.....and that is why I called you out. We're not your enemies here....we're all fans and friends here.

[RedRocBoy]

it's cool, man. I wasn't offended. Your post read as combative, almost to the point of trolling.....and that is why I called you out. We're not your enemies here....we're all fans and friends here.

Okay cool bro. Didn't mean to come off that way. :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:

[TigerClaw]

Judging from the tone of Raph on that little transcript, I wouldn't be surprise if hes the only Turtles who swears. I wouldn't be surprise hes the one that says things like. "Alright! Time to kick some ass!" or something to that effect.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Judging from the tone of Raph on that little transcript, I wouldn't be surprise if hes the only Turtles who swears. I wouldn't be surprise hes the one that says things like. "Alright! Time to kick some ass!" or something to that effect.

Same as the original, yeah? I think he was the only one that said damn.

Closest the others got was Mikey's "Shell of a good hit."

[electric_sheep]

Same as the original, yeah? I think he was the only one that said damn.

Closest the others got was Mikey's "Shell of a good hit."

Ninja kick the damn rabbit?

[TigerClaw]

Same as the original, yeah? I think he was the only one that said damn.

Closest the others got was Mikey's "Shell of a good hit."
Yeah, Raph did swear in the 1st one with the whole "Damn!" thing quite a bit, So it would make sense if hes the one who swears when he gets angry.

[MastahShredder]

0hHkgay_2vA

Mikey says damn too when he has to go up against Shredder.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Ninja kick the damn rabbit?

I stand corrected! Forgot about that one.

Mikey says damn too when he has to go up against Shredder.

Actually, I think Donnie does. Mike almost overlaps it with "Great..." I could be wrong on that.
Either way, forgot about that one too.

[RedRocBoy]

I stand corrected! Forgot about that one.



Actually, I think Donnie does. Mike almost overlaps it with "Great..." I could be wrong on that.
Either way, forgot about that one too.

LOL!!! Man I love that movie. So awesome. :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:

[MastahShredder]

I believe he loses to Donnie..goes "damn"..swings his chucks and says "great".

WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I believe he loses to Donnie..goes "damn"..swings his chucks and says "great".

WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Think your boys are gonna need some he....where'd he go?

[sethmartin]

Raph also says "bitchin'" at the end when they are giving Donnie suggestions on what to say.

[MastahShredder]

Think your boys are gonna need some he....where'd he go?

There was so much emotion in that film. That scene too if you think about it. It always gives me chills.

Splinter knows how dangerous Saki is so he gathers all the strength he can (remember Casey and Danny kinda had to hold him up) to go and help his sons. They don't literally show it, but it's there. And the soundtrack, the part where it drops when the screen cuts to Leo and Shredder fighting. Sooooooo good.

[graphic_content]

There was so much emotion in that film. That scene too if you think about it. It always gives me chills.

Splinter knows how dangerous Saki is so he gathers all the strength he can (remember Casey and Danny kinda had to hold him up) to go and help his sons. They don't literally show it, but it's there. And the soundtrack, the part where it drops when the screen cuts to Leo and Shredder fighting. Sooooooo good.

the last fight was an awesome culmination of the events of the movie, I just wish Splinter and Shredder had a more elaborate fight, but i understand the limitations of the tech at the time.

[GeneralTragg]

the last fight was an awesome culmination of the events of the movie, I just wish Splinter and Shredder had a more elaborate fight, but i understand the limitations of the tech at the time.

I'll never understand why they cut splinter yelling Oroku Saki... kinda makes that whole scene make a lot more sense...

[MastahShredder]

What do you mean?

[GeneralTragg]

What do you mean?

Right before Shredder stabs Leo in the neck, everyone looks round and there's Splinter, how did they know?

Then Splinter says: "Yes,Oroku Saki, I know who you are," Yes what?

Because Splinter is supposed to yell Oroku Saki, he does in the GN, but for reason or reasons unknown they cut it from the film.

[Xav]

I thought it was Shaking My Head but that would be SMH...not sure what SHM is...Somebody hit me.

[ninja-zero]

Perhaps in the beginning of this script, they are shown as shadow silhouettes of themselves.

[MastahShredder]

Right before Shredder stabs Leo in the neck, everyone looks round and there's Splinter, how did they know?

Then Splinter says: "Yes,Oroku Saki, I know who you are," Yes what?

Because Splinter is supposed to yell Oroku Saki, he does in the GN, but for reason or reasons unknown they cut it from the film.

Gotcha. I'd assume "yes" as in the gigs up, Shredder.

His tone of voice did turn into anger when he say Hamato Yoshi. Very passionate.

[sethmartin]

Just because it says in the script that this is the first scene we see the turtles out of the shadows in, doesn't mean that it translated to the film. We already know that when April first sees the turtles, they are well lit on the roof.

[Fjaj]

She probably gets a glimpse of them in the scene from the trailer that takes place in the subway station, when the foot are getting thrown around. I'm guessing the script scene is right after that.

[MrTMNT2012]

I'm liking what I'm reading, just wish we get some glimpses of these in the actual trailers instead of....Megan Fox.

[MrTMNT2012]

I will say from what we've seen of the CGI, it looks absolutely amazing! Really wish we got a trailer that fully showcases this.

[Candy Kappa]

The transcript gives me flashes back to the Imagi movie, well. I guess the script writers can muster up the bare basic of the turtles.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Raph's "boy scout" comment there is okay, but.....

For some reason my favorite line for him IS actually from Imagi's 2007 TMNT...

"Spoken like a true has-been." :lol:

[graphic_content]

Raph's "boy scout" comment there is okay, but.....

For some reason my favorite line for him IS actually from Imagi's 2007 TMNT...

"Spoken like a true has-been." :lol:

Funny enough, Wolverine used to call Cyclops a 'boyscout' too. When I read the script, I immediately thought of the original 90s X-Men cartoon, lol.

My favorite Raph line is, '"y-o, I don't know, cause I wanted to redecorate, a couple of throw pillows, a tv news reporter..." Sarcasm, cracks me up.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

The cynicism for a property we have all loved since childhood (why we're still here) is alarming to say the least.

like i said to sam..just because you liked something as a kid..DOES NOT mean you have to automatically like everything with its name slapped on it

[MajorViolence]

like i said to sam..just because you liked something as a kid..DOES NOT mean you have to automatically like everything with its name slapped on it

I need to just save a link to Jester's post to use in response to everyone who starts this exact discussion.

[Candy Kappa]

Such a backhanded compliment. The bare basics? This excerpt sounded legit, and perfect in tone and character interaction.

But, the Trascript only gives us the bare basics (like the Imagi movie). Leo is leadery, Raph is angsty and Mikey is easily amused and Don, is just there. it isn't a whole lot of text we've given in teh trabscript.

But I do hope Mikey is more then just "ehehehehe doodie", that he is more like Spider-Man when it comes to jokes, and being a prankster, and not... Peter Griffin.


Would it kill many of you to like, or give props to anything in this film? Or is it like a too stubborn, too cool for school kind of deal?

I'll give props when it deserves so, and I have given props to some aspects of what we've seen. Such as the tone of the lighting, the integration of the character models and the hands of the Turtle models looks very well done, as well as the texture job done on them. And hey, I'm still alive!


Being positive about anything being done means an automatic revoke of the hardcore, elitist technodrome cool kids club or something?

The cynicism for a property we have all loved since childhood (why we're still here) is alarming to say the least.

O yes, I am sooo cynical. Grr grr I hate all new TMNT stuff GRRR!

Well, you are a fairly new member, but shock, oh shock. Opinions change. I was fairly positive about the movie up until the Turtle designs where reviled. then I laughed for about 5 minutes straight, after that I worried that I might have cracked a rib after a lot of chest pain. And then, the news have just been rolling downhill from there.

I love most things TMNT, from the Mirage comics to Next Mutation, to the new Nick show. The new movie is probably the only piece of this property (as of this date) that I do not like.

As of now, I predict I'll like the Blue Line special more then the Platinum Dunes movie.

[MajorViolence]

Did I say that? But what on earth have you seen that has so horrendously offended your ninja turtle fan sensibilities to be so entrenched in disdain for something that seems to be doing your franchise justice.

That's entirely your opinion

[slingtheory]

Did I say that? But what on earth have you seen that has so horrendously offended your ninja turtle fan sensibilities to be so entrenched in disdain for something that seems to be doing your franchise justice.a lot of things that convince me they aren't doing it justice. From some of the casting to the character design to the way its been marketed

[MajorViolence]

Because the original three movies was TDK trilogy quality.

Because the 2k3 show was Batman TAS, or Spectacular Spider-Man.

Because the 2k7 movie was Disney's The Incredibles.

Because the original Mirage stuff was: Watchmen, TDK Returns

Some of you are really odd. Like what little we have seen is like a flippant abomination of the TMNT franchise and it's ABSURD trend setting quality levels.

The point of the franchise is the comedy, the satire, the action, and it doesn't take itself seriously. It's fun. Which by all accounts of what we've seen, this looks to be on some levels.

Again, entirely your opinion.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

The point of the franchise is the comedy, the satire, the action, and it doesn't take itself seriously. It's fun. Which by all accounts of what we've seen, this looks to be on some levels.

Even though we've seen Barely Any Action (other than an antenna fall and Raph Smash Humvee), Zero Satire, and only One piece of comedy (the same 'it's just a Mask' joke repeated).

So one piece of comedy, zero satire, very little/Barely Any Action is all it takes? That's cool for you. To each their own. Doesn't mean it's that way for everyone. Using the whole 'you're just whiny' is too much an easy as well as flippant response.

And actually yes, I do like the 2003 cartoon more than Batman: The Animated Series. And I like the first two Ninja turtle films more than Nolan's trilogy (which I always felt was overrated). And I like the original Mirage stuff more than Watchmen.

That's why it's called Opinions.

[electric_sheep]

I would like to see the turtles return to the basic Daredevil kinda tone, also Shredder is cool and all but i want to see a satire of Kingpin, just a Wilson Fisk kinda cryme boss, wouldn't that be cool? (Not Eric Sach because that's just stupid).

[Allio]

I have so many jokes and I can't pick one.

Laird's last nerve

I thought that has been dead

[slingtheory]

Because the original three movies was TDK trilogy quality.

Because the 2k3 show was Batman TAS, or Spectacular Spider-Man.

Because the 2k7 movie was Disney's The Incredibles.

Because the original Mirage stuff was: Watchmen, TDK Returns

Some of you are really odd. Like what little we have seen is like a flippant abomination of the TMNT franchise and it's ABSURD trend setting quality levels.

The point of the franchise is the comedy, the satire, the action, and it doesn't take itself seriously. It's fun. Which by all accounts of what we've seen, this looks to be on some levels.
no offense but if you don't think whats come before stands up against what YOU consider to be better that's your deal and your opinion. personally I would say 2k3 is on par with btas and spectacular spiderman as like both of those it captured the tone and spirit of the original source material. as much as could be done in a Saturday morning cartoon anyway. and the 2k7 movie had its problems but it got a lot more right than it did wrong. mostly it just suffered from forgettable villains and plot. and the original comics may not have the political and social overtones of watchman but it told engaging stories about concepts like the nature or revenge, the meaning of family, loyalty and brotherhood and the endless cycle that violence creates. so if this movie is living up to your idea of the franchise that's great but me I just don't see it