New Leaked Book Images

[AlphaAF]

Once again, the turtle designs look so cool. I believe some of those pictures are of the on set models. Shredder looks menacing. Splinter is cute, yadda ... yadda.

Everything so far is great, has me feeling anticipation for a big screen turtles property like I'm a small child again.

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/CE708715-004E-40DB-8C20-DECEE5A0DB52_zpsy6f0veag.jpg

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/E0172D0A-0FEB-4A53-88C1-559890453FF4_zps2z8wj1c2.jpg

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/1117A391-3D97-4054-B1A5-A02132A276AB_zps4spcjg7z.jpg

[RedRocBoy]

So awesome. Loved the new designs since day one. Movies gonna do good. Can't wait to weekend of August 8th. I'm gonna try and see twice. Maybe three times. :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin::tcool:

[Ninjinister]

Is it considered "leaked" if the guy was given a copy specifically for showing people pictures?

[The Turtle Terminator]

Everything so far is great, has me feeling anticipation for a big screen turtles property like I'm a small child again.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/CE708715-004E-40DB-8C20-DECEE5A0DB52_zpsy6f0veag.jpg[/url[url]http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/E0172D0A-0FEB-4A53-88C1-559890453FF4_zps2z8wj1c2.jpg
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/E1117A391-3D97-4054-B1A5-A02132A276AB_zps4spcjg7z.jpg

Is this an actual "to be published" book? If so, what is its' name?:o:o

[Zulithe]

Is this from the upcoming Ultimate Visual History?

I forgot to pre-order! Just corrected that error :) Good price on it too.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Looks that way bud, and I'm not quite sure.

Im hoping so *crosses fingers*

[Shark_Blade]

I always thought they look awesome since the first leaked set pics. :D

These are amazing.

[Venom]

Damn, splinter looks awesome! At least they got one character right.

[Candy Kappa]

Looks like concept art PD splinter isn't having a top knot, or as protruding Fu Man Shu facial hair, bit hard to tell in the picture.

[MajorViolence]

Looks like concept art PD splinter isn't having a top knot, or as protruding Fu Man Shu facial hair, bit hard to tell in the picture.

He seriously looks just like a more detailed image of 2003 Splinter in that image. It's a shame they didn't go with that design.

[Candy Kappa]

Yeah, comparing the art to the toy, it seems they are very different designs then just copy paste extra hair bits. But that movie toy looks atrocious, guess well see for sure then the new trailer hits, the Kappa said in a diplomatic tone.

[The Fifth Turtle]

I like the Splinter shown here as opposed to the new Splinter (although I like him too).

[HeroTurtlesFan]

Looks great to me!

[sethmartin]

Wish I could read the text! I bet it talks about the plot

[electric_sheep]

Wish I could read the text! I bet it talks about the plot

Maybe we can...

[bridgegrn]

I wish Splinter looked like that in the movie :/

[samxsteal]

Once again, the turtle designs look so cool. I believe some of those pictures are of the on set models. Shredder looks menacing. Splinter is cute, yadda ... yadda.

Everything so far is great, has me feeling anticipation for a big screen turtles property like I'm a small child again.

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/CE708715-004E-40DB-8C20-DECEE5A0DB52_zpsy6f0veag.jpg

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/E0172D0A-0FEB-4A53-88C1-559890453FF4_zps2z8wj1c2.jpg

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/1117A391-3D97-4054-B1A5-A02132A276AB_zps4spcjg7z.jpg
I AM going to love this book got it pre ordered and everything

Link for those who want to preorder In USA its not on the UK site yet
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608871851/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Video from which this is from
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And i have a transcript written use search function with Script transcript key word you should fine it.

So awesome. Loved the new designs since day one. Movies gonna do good. Can't wait to weekend of August 8th. I'm gonna try and see twice. Maybe three times. :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin::tcool:
Agree i love the concepts and think they look great cant wait to get my copy of this book
Is it considered "leaked" if the guy was given a copy specifically for showing people pictures?
Its a review copy so i would say no they gave it to him to review

I don't know for sure. It was on a popular comic book movie site. Who knows though, at least the guy shared it with the fans. It seems to be an authentic "making of" movie book of some kind. At least he didn't make drawings then only selectively hand them out to specific people.
Its the TMNT: ultimate Visual History Link above
Is this an actual "to be published" book? If so, what is its' name?:o:o
Yup
Looks that way bud, and I'm not quite sure.
definitely
Is this from the upcoming Ultimate Visual History?

I forgot to pre-order! Just corrected that error :) Good price on it too.Yup Me to i was so giddy when i preordered it yesterday

I always thought they look awesome since the first leaked set pics. :D

These are amazing.im actually surprise they included anything seeing as they are Neck deep into Post production obviously why there are no "still" of the turtles just concepts which is still great

I like the Splinter shown here as opposed to the new Splinter (although I like him too).Agreed i like the little extra touches they added to the new splinter ala the kimono and hakama pants and the top knot

Looks great to me!sure does

Wish I could read the text! I bet it talks about the plot
COme june we can ^_^ As for now the best quality video i got was 780p so the images aren't great

Should have water marked them when i created them just got to excited i guess lol

But if i got a larger quality maybe we could make some out like we did for the script part.

[Puddinpop]

Maybe we can...

Isn't there like an edit program that could magnify it and clean it up or something? I saw that it was done with that Shredder picture. It wasn't that visual when I saw it before.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Once again, the turtle designs look so cool. I believe some of those pictures are of the on set models.

Meh, still look meh. Can't decide if the clothes or face change is what really puts me off more, to be honest. I'm still unclear on Raph in that photo though. His plastron looks to be gray/black. Not sure why as it clearly isn't in the trailer.

However, you are indeed correct. That picture of Leo's face is from the maquette and that Raphael is also the maquette. Too bad they don't have pictures of all the maquettes from front/side/back. Despite thinking they look pretty bleh and despite hating their clothes the statues STILL looked pretty damn cool. I'd like to see them in full.

No way in hell I'd shell out $250 a piece for them. These movie turtles will NEVER EEEEEEEEEEEEEVER stand up to the tried and true comic maquettes. ;)

Though it would be interesting if the movie maquettes special edition version came with more comic inspired heads to swap to which you prefer (the original maquettes heads could be swapped for colored vs red bandannas. Raph's special edition was an alternative hand holding the sai to throw with the challenge note wrapped around it). Though that would mean sculpting two heads for each, not a recolor bandannas. Still, it would be a way to make more happy...though with those always being limited runs, I'm sure they'd sell out without such cross-fanbase appeal.

This is also all assuming/speculating that they would produce said maquettes for release in the first place.

Damn, splinter looks awesome! At least they got one character right.

He does look awesome, but that picture isn't what they went with. :/

[electric_sheep]

Isn't there like an edit program that could magnify it and clean it up or something? I saw that it was done with that Shredder picture. It wasn't that visual when I saw it before.

I don't think that that exists yet if you watch it in HD it's almost readable you can make out some words someone with a bigger monitor may be able to read some of it, i also sent a pm to the owner of the video, maybe he'll tell us something...

[MastahShredder]

http://i.imgur.com/lcjCnfK.jpg

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Hard to tell for sure on that picture wearing the Shredder glove, but it looks different than the concept art. Extremely different.

Makes me wonder if they ARE going with that being an artifact from Oroku Saki's time in feudal Japan while Fichtner has a modernized tech-based Shredder suit.

[electric_sheep]

Hard to tell for sure on that picture wearing the Shredder glove, but it looks different than the concept art. Extremely different.

Makes me wonder if they ARE going with that being an artifact from Oroku Saki's time in feudal Japan while Fichtner has a modernized tech-based Shredder suit.

Maybe, Maybe that's the rest of the suit behind him...

[MajorViolence]

Hard to tell for sure on that picture wearing the Shredder glove, but it looks different than the concept art. Extremely different.

Makes me wonder if they ARE going with that being an artifact from Oroku Saki's time in feudal Japan while Fichtner has a modernized tech-based Shredder suit.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday, actually. Unfortunately yesterday was a difficult time for any sort of serious discussion.

[CrazySquirrel]

Man i wish splinter looked like that.... so good.

[MastahShredder]

Hard to tell for sure on that picture wearing the Shredder glove, but it looks different than the concept art. Extremely different.

Makes me wonder if they ARE going with that being an artifact from Oroku Saki's time in feudal Japan while Fichtner has a modernized tech-based Shredder suit.

I agree. Perhaps he has artifacts of Saki's. Like the helmet, etc. Most of it looks like something a samurai would wear in the past. Some of the suit looks very old and unusual for something that you could create today. If I had to guess, he incorporates the artifacts into the tech-suit.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5124/13597415325_96b5675d30.jpg

That really doesn't look modern. It looks like some guy made it with metal from a junkyard.

[slingtheory]

that splinter concept art makes me sad. it gives me the impression they might've been headed in a more subtle direction at one point before someone stepped in and decided to turn everything up to 11

[electric_sheep]

that splinter concept art makes me sad. it gives me the impression they might've been headed in a more subtle direction at one point before someone stepped in and decided to turn everything up to 11

I wonder who?
And now we know that splinter came from lab, so i ask you then, where does japanese features come from, why does he have a japanese mustache and hair?

I mean i like the Pai Mei look

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110306233740/killbill/images/c/c0/PaiMeiPromo.jpg

But it still doesen't make sense...
If splinter mutated with mustache and hair, why didn't the turtles? They are teanagers, they should have facial hair...

[MajorViolence]

That's what bugs me most about the Splinter design. It's just so ridiculously convenient that Splinter's mutation gave him just the right sprouts of hair to grow a top knot and Fu Manchu 'stache.

[slingtheory]

I wonder who?
And now we know that splinter came from lab, so i ask you then, where does japanese features come from, why does he have a japanese mustache and hair?

I mean i like the Pai Mei look

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110306233740/killbill/images/c/c0/PaiMeiPromo.jpg

But it still doesen't make sense...

that's funny you posted that pic because I was just imagining one of the higher ups looking at the concept design on saying " nope not stereotypical enough. I want this guy to look like every old wise martial arts dude you've ever seen in every movie ever. go watch part 2 of kill bill and go from there."

[samxsteal]

I wonder who?
And now we know that splinter came from lab, so i ask you then, where does japanese features come from, why does he have a japanese mustache and hair?

I mean i like the Pai Mei look

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110306233740/killbill/images/c/c0/PaiMeiPromo.jpg

But it still doesen't make sense...
If splinter mutated with mustache and hair, why didn't the turtles? They are teanagers, they should have facial hair...

IDW Kevin says the movie has heavy ties into tmnt current mythos that includes IDW, SPlinter and the turtle are lab animals at STOCKGEN, which aprils father works at to create the Ooze Sound familiar?

[samxsteal]

I wonder who?
And now we know that splinter came from lab, so i ask you then, where does japanese features come from, why does he have a japanese mustache and hair?

I mean i like the Pai Mei look

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110306233740/killbill/images/c/c0/PaiMeiPromo.jpg

But it still doesen't make sense...
If splinter mutated with mustache and hair, why didn't the turtles? They are teanagers, they should have facial hair...

That's what bugs me most about the Splinter design. It's just so ridiculously convenient that Splinter's mutation gave him just the right sprouts of hair to grow a top knot and Fu Manchu 'stache.

that's funny you posted that pic because I was just imagining one of the higher ups looking at the concept design on saying " nope not stereotypical enough. I want this guy to look like every old wise martial arts dude you've ever seen in every movie ever. go watch part 2 of kill bill and go from there."

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/24/248273/preview-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-microser-L-xN_SkG.jpeg
http://plannedbanter.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/idw-tmnt-14_cover-a_andy-kuhn.jpeg
http://www.freakinawesomenetwork.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_Ongoing_05-1.jpg
Yup not like they didnt take from the source or nothing -_^

[electric_sheep]

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/24/248273/preview-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-microser-L-xN_SkG.jpeg
http://plannedbanter.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/idw-tmnt-14_cover-a_andy-kuhn.jpeg Yup not like they didnt take from the source or nothing -_^

Am, artistic interpretation? That's his fur that's shaped like a wise old man beard, he doesen't have full human hair there...

[slingtheory]

IDW Kevin says the movie has heavy ties into tmnt current mythos that includes IDW, SPlinter and the turtle are lab animals at STOCKGEN, which aprils father works at to create the Ooze Sound familiar?

are you talking about the movie or the comics because in the comics Aprils father did not create the ooze. he was only a research scientist studying it before he had some kind of accident. the ooze had been around for a very long time before than and came from the ultrom homeworld. also has it been confirmed he creates the ooze in the movie. apparently he was working with sachs to "create heros" but I don't think what he actually did has been revealed yet.

[samxsteal]

are you talking about the movie or the comics because in the comics Aprils father did not create the ooze. he was only a research scientist studying it before he had some kind of accident. the ooze had been around for a very long time before than and came from the ultrom homeworld. also has it been confirmed he creates the ooze in the movie. apparently he was working with sachs to "create heros" but I don't think what he actually did has been revealed yet.
He was "involved" with the ooze
A tie they left in the movie, whether or not what shredder says is true, which many see to think its is. there are ties to many different sources being used through out this movie Just from the trailers alone.

[MajorViolence]

http://m5.paperblog.com/i/24/248273/preview-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-microser-L-xN_SkG.jpeg
http://plannedbanter.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/idw-tmnt-14_cover-a_andy-kuhn.jpeg
http://www.freakinawesomenetwork.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles_Ongoing_05-1.jpg
Yup not like they didnt take from the source or nothing -_^

First of all, not a top knot in any one of those. That's nowhere near as pronounced and deliberate as the film's design. Second of all, I wouldn't say it even works all the time when other mediums do it. The NickTurtles Splinter have him this long ass chin sprout, and I think it looks pretty ridiculous.

[samxsteal]

Am, artistic interpretation? That's his fur that's shaped like a wise old man beard, he doesen't have full human hair there...

Human Hair? Ok. hes got just enough to make a small topknot not a flowing mane lol you say artistic interpretation that all this movie is one artist interpretation except i would go as far as saying several artist interpretation so why does it matter?

It was just a referance he has a fu man shu mustache in several version so its not like they were trying to make him look more stereo typical, If anything they were further representing his Japanese Background by giving him a top knot a thing of Honor Samurai and Ninja wore as a badges

[electric_sheep]

Human Hair? Ok. hes got just enough to make a small topknot not a flowing mane lol you say artistic interpretation that all this movie is one artist interpretation except i would go as far as saying several artist interpretation so why does it matter?

It was just a referance he has a fu man shu mustache in several version so its not like they were trying to make him look more stereo typical, If anything they were further representing his Japanese Background by giving him a top knot a thing of Honor Samurai and Ninja wore as a badges

There's a thin line between making someting look good and going so overboard that it becomes a caricature, i think that this movie crossed that line...

[samxsteal]

First of all, not a top knot in any one of those. That's nowhere near as pronounced and deliberate as the film's design. Second of all, I wouldn't say it even works all the time when other mediums do it. The NickTurtles Splinter have him this long ass chin sprout, and I think it looks pretty ridiculous.

Yeah your right its much more exaggerated in the movie version :trolleye:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jjUCFZPo--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ihu6gsqati0emwfris0s.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0c/UGOWnPzDmnI/AAAAAAAAIpY/__0yxE1kIeo/s1600/14-1.jpg
Know tell me which one is longer and more pronounced SMH

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--n4gQNPTM--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/gmroayiuf1t8lfqhmpou.jpg
Yup looks like a full head of hair to me

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2wk44kZtREk/TvI3qkuQLSI/AAAAAAAAHWg/6c_MrOBoEao/s400/origin04.jpg

[electric_sheep]

Yeah your right its much more exaggerated in the movie version :trolleye:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jjUCFZPo--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ihu6gsqati0emwfris0s.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0c/UGOWnPzDmnI/AAAAAAAAIpY/__0yxE1kIeo/s1600/14-1.jpg
Know tell me which one is longer and more pronounced SMH

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--n4gQNPTM--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/gmroayiuf1t8lfqhmpou.jpg
Yup looks like a full head of hair to me

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2wk44kZtREk/TvI3qkuQLSI/AAAAAAAAHWg/6c_MrOBoEao/s400/origin04.jpg

You do realise that you are comparing a rat to human, right?

[MajorViolence]

Yeah your right its much more exaggerated in the movie version :trolleye:
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--jjUCFZPo--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ihu6gsqati0emwfris0s.jpghttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0c/UGOWnPzDmnI/AAAAAAAAIpY/__0yxE1kIeo/s1600/14-1.jpg
Know tell me which one is longer and more pronounced SMH

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--n4gQNPTM--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/gmroayiuf1t8lfqhmpou.jpg
Yup looks like a full head of hair to me

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2wk44kZtREk/TvI3qkuQLSI/AAAAAAAAHWg/6c_MrOBoEao/s400/origin04.jpg

I'm not seeing a top knot in that image of him as a rat. That's a giant leap toward the "deliberate and pronounced" caricature I was talking about.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I wonder who?

Well, generic stereotypes are pretty Michael Bay, so I'm going with his involvement on making Splinter more cliche in appearance.

And now we know that splinter came from lab, so i ask you then, where does japanese features come from, why does he have a japanese mustache and hair?

But it still doesen't make sense...
If splinter mutated with mustache and hair, why didn't the turtles? They are teanagers, they should have facial hair...

I'm beginning to agree that they may well be going with an IDW angle of possible reincarnation. It's the only way I can conceive of Splinter and the Turtles having any Japanese cultural influence.

That's what bugs me most about the Splinter design. It's just so ridiculously convenient that Splinter's mutation gave him just the right sprouts of hair to grow a top knot and Fu Manchu 'stache.

To be fair, maybe he's let his fur grow out intentionally to develop the style over the past 17ish years? ;)

are you talking about the movie or the comics because in the comics Aprils father did not create the ooze. he was only a research scientist studying it before he had some kind of accident. the ooze had been around for a very long time before than and came from the ultrom homeworld. also has it been confirmed he creates the ooze in the movie. apparently he was working with sachs to "create heros" but I don't think what he actually did has been revealed yet.

Well, we don't know what his involvement is so far. We just know he was involved in a project to supposedly create heroes. How the ooze came to be and what his involvement is remains unclear thus far.

[slingtheory]

He was "involved" with the ooze
A tie they left in the movie, whether or not what shredder says is true, which many see to think its is. there are ties to many different sources being used through out this movie Just from the trailers alone.

they would really have to expand that involvement for the movie because in the comic it begins and ends with studying it for awhile to see what it can do. so far its been a pretty minor detail. and I'm not seeing so many ties to different sources. mostly just the fred wolf toon and maybe the nick toon with the shell riser reference and the turtles body types I guess

[MajorViolence]

To be fair, maybe he's let his fur grow out intentionally to develop the style over the past 17ish years? ;)

I don't want to live in a world where Splinter shaves.

[samxsteal]

they would really have to expand that involvement for the movie because in the comic it begins and ends with studying it for awhile to see what it can do. so far its been a pretty minor detail. and I'm not seeing so many ties to different sources. mostly just the fred wolf toon and maybe the nick toon with the shell riser reference and the turtles body types I guess

Shredders Involvement in the creation of the turtle-wolf series
Aprils father Albeit small-IDW
Japanese mural-2k3/ IDW
Shredder possibly being urtom shredder-2k3
Utroms- Mirage/2k3/IDW/Nick(krang)
Lap Rat origin- IDW
April, Vernon, other characters- Wolf
KArai- Mirage/2k3/nick/IDW/
Don tech-Image

Kevin Specifically Referencing using multiple tmnt source to create new version of the turtles while talking about this movie production.

Kevin Specifically Saying the this movie it "heavily Tied in the current TMNT mythos" There is plenty people just wont except it

Just like chances are your going to write this off as well as other that fine but it doesn't mean its not their

[electric_sheep]

I don't want to live in a world where Splinter shaves.

He got hair extentions, i wanna see in the middle of the fight his hair band falling off and his glorious 5 hairs flailin in thw wind, Samurai Jack style only, you know, with less hair...

[slingtheory]

There's a thin line between making someting look good and going so overboard that it becomes a caricature, i think that this movie crossed that line...

seconded. i'll give you that the fu Manchu beard thing has been done before but that's usually where it stops. I just don't like that it looks like at one point it looks like they intended to stop here:
http://fdzeta.com/imgcache/377430dz.jpg

before it was decided to go full on this

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-39560371480371_2272_45032893

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I don't want to live in a world where Splinter shaves.

Well look at the photo. Obviously he doesn't. ;)

[MajorViolence]

He got hair extentions, i wanna see in the middle of the fight his hair band falling off and his glorious 5 hairs flailin in thw wind, Samurai Jack style only, you know, with less hair...

During the fight with Shredder, he lets his hair down, and Donnie pops in from offscreen to say "OH **** THE SCRUNCHIE'S COMIN' OFF! YOU DONE ****ED UP NOW!"

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Shredders Involvement in the creation of the turtle-wolf series
Aprils father Albeit small-IDW
Japanese mural-2k3/ IDW
Shredder possibly being urtom shredder-2k3
Utroms- Mirage/2k3/IDW/Nick(krang)
Lap Rat origin- IDW
April, Vernon, other characters- Wolf
KArai- Mirage/2k3/nick/IDW/
Don tech-Image


I'd scratch the Utrom references. Currently we don't really have anything to suggest that's going to be in the movie at all.

Where's the mural connection to 2k3 and IDW?

Mostly it's Fred Wolf influences with a splash of comic here and there and a lot of original design.

I'll add one in place of Utrom Shredder (no foundation for that yet). Shredder using modern technology connected to ancient origins. That's a big 2k3 plot device. Less so in IDW, but there too.

Karai could just be a fan nod rather than any real inspiration from earlier sources. Wait and see for now to really get a feel for that.

[samxsteal]

seconded. i'll give you that the fu Manchu beard thing has been done before but that's usually where it stops. I just don't like that it looks like at one point it looks like they intended to stop here:
http://fdzeta.com/imgcache/377430dz.jpg

before it was decided to go full on this

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-39560371480371_2272_45032893

So what your saying is this is fine
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0c/UGOWnPzDmnI/AAAAAAAAIpY/__0yxE1kIeo/s1600/14-1.jpg
But as soon as you put a Top knot on him and its suddenly to far??
Something that stand for honor and tradition, With heavy influences in Japanese culture and history, suddenly becomes to much?

[slingtheory]

Shredders Involvement in the creation of the turtle-wolf series
Aprils father Albeit small-IDW
Japanese mural-2k3/ IDW
Shredder possibly being urtom shredder-2k3
Utroms- Mirage/2k3/IDW/Nick(krang)
Lap Rat origin- IDW
April, Vernon, other characters- Wolf
KArai- Mirage/2k3/nick/IDW/
Don tech-Image

Kevin Specifically Referencing using multiple tmnt source to create new version of the turtles while talking about this movie production.

Kevin Specifically Saying the this movie it "heavily Tied in the current TMNT mythos" There is plenty people just wont except it

Just like chances are your going to write this off as well as other that fine but it doesn't mean its not their

well no I won't write it off ill just say some of these are more speculation and not really concrete. also I don't think karai qualifies as a reference as she's been a main character in every tmnt universe but one. and that thing on donnies back does not look like a shout out to image
So what your saying is this is fine
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LppcxztTZ0c/UGOWnPzDmnI/AAAAAAAAIpY/__0yxE1kIeo/s1600/14-1.jpg
But as soon as you put a Top knot on him and its suddenly to far??
Something that stand for honor and tradition, With heavy influences in Japanese culture and history, suddenly becomes to much? no im not saying that's fine either as its much more exaggerated there than it is usually. I'm saying that that's approaching the stereotype line and the movie just hopped over it riding a motorcycle while dunking a basketball. and it may stand for honor and tradition but the idea of a giant rat doing up the top of his fur in a top knot is pretty silly

[MajorViolence]

I'm not really sure what this list is meant to prove. Was anyone claiming this movie has nothing in common with any previous versions of the turtles?

[1984TMNT]

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww354/EPD8/1117A391-3D97-4054-B1A5-A02132A276AB_zps4spcjg7z.jpg

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

[MastahShredder]

During the fight with Shredder, he lets his hair down, and Donnie pops in from offscreen to say "OH **** THE SCRUNCHIE'S COMIN' OFF! YOU DONE ****ED UP NOW!"

:lol:

Going by the lighting, I'm thinking the fight takes place in the lair. At what point in the film though? Shredder and Sach's are going to be two separate entities so maybe this Shredder exists already but we don't know the back-story or who he is. Then the pieces of the puzzle start to come together..

[MastahShredder]

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

http://i.imgur.com/0IpQv34.png

Sure does look like it.

[samxsteal]

I'd scratch the Utrom references. Currently we don't really have anything to suggest that's going to be in the movie at all.

Where's the mural connection to 2k3 and IDW? Utroms in the painting, Possible Reincarnation influences

Mostly it's Fred Wolf influences with a splash of comic here and there and a lot of original design. Sure I guess you can saw they went that route But influences are still something and means they are pulling from other sources

I'll add one in place of Utrom Shredder (no foundation for that yet). Shredder using modern technology connected to ancient origins. That's a big 2k3 plot device. Less so in IDW, but there too. There you go this is a huge possibility

Karai could just be a fan nod rather than any real inspiration from earlier sources. Wait and see for now to really get a feel for that.
And shredder could be a macguffin(contract aren't an indication most big name movies do that now and day regardless of character just in case)

But seeing as she had been Seen In several Instance Subway, Lair break in, And turtle capture, Chances are shes important, my question is she shredder daughter in this(you argue not cuz hes white) is she adopted is she Splinters(if the script page was not final product and he actually starts human).

[MastahShredder]

What the heck is that huge thing on his hand. Looks really weird.

[1984TMNT]

He is 100% a Utrom in this movie.

Whether or not an "Actual" human Shredder exists in this universe is what is unknown at the moment.

[samxsteal]

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

http://i.imgur.com/0IpQv34.png

Sure does look like it.
Agreed And i think it might be very likely

Does any one else Notice that that's looks like a drawing that Eastman drew
Seeing as he sat down with the director and drew photo and explain the entirety of the turtles History with him showing him photos and drawing for him, I think is likely

[samxsteal]

What the heck is that huge thing on his hand. Looks really weird.

Hes holding a canister Maybe ooze Similar to the size of the lego set version?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Uh-oh.............are those two red glowing eyes I see in his abdomen? UGH. Be ready for it, guys and girls - this Shredder is a Utrom.

Trust me.

Nice catch. Looking more likely, after all.

And I just told Sam there wasn't enough to think that yet.


Well, Schrader reported to Krang in The Blue Door. Maybe Shredder IS Krang?

[MajorViolence]

As much as evidence seems to keep suggesting Utrom Shredder in this film, my gut feeling is still that we won't be seeing that. I don't know why. Even the Blue Door script was determined to make Shredder an alien disguised as a human, yet I keep clinging to the idea that this whole theory is the result of us looking too far into things.

It's probably just because I hate Utrom Shredder.

[1984TMNT]

It's unfortunate, IMO, because Utrom Shredder was my LEAST favorite part of the 2K3 series. It takes sooooooo much away from the mythology, to me.

However, that's what we're getting here. They are pulling aspects from the entire 30 year history of the TMNT - and this is the main thing they are taking from 2K3.

[MajorViolence]

Wouldn't the action figure have some indication of the Utrom if that were the case, though? Surely they wouldn't gloss over such an important detail in the toy sculpt.

[graphic_content]

:lol:

Going by the lighting, I'm thinking the fight takes place in the lair. At what point in the film though? Shredder and Sach's are going to be two separate entities so maybe this Shredder exists already but we don't know the back-story or who he is. Then the pieces of the puzzle start to come together..

im betting the following takes place...

1) the foot start doing their thing in the city
2) they get their a**es handed to them in the subway by the turtles, April is there
3) they, the turtles, chase her down, and try to explain what's what
4) she faints
5) discouraged the turtles make their way down to the sewers, and have the conversation we page from the leaked script page
6) pissed, Raph takes off
7) the foot, and subsequently the Shredder gets word of what happened, and how they were taken out
8) they, the foot, raid the sewers, and start this colossal fight with the turtles
9) the turtles are overwhelmed by sheer number, and ultimately bound
10) Shredder in full armor reveals himself, at which point so does Splinter
11) Splinter is overpowered, and thought to be dead, so they leave him, and escort the others off to the snowy mountain area
12) Raph returns, see the destruction, maybe even talks to Splinter, who we discover is not dead, but severely wounded
13) Raph seeks out April, and she and Vernon help Raph find the snowy mountain location
14) they save the other turtles, and together, make their escape (es-cah-peh)
15) they come back to the city...
16) final showdown with shredder, who reveals himself to be...an utrom
17) he monologues about their destiny, and how the ooze was his creation so by default, he is really their father, and that they should join him
18) they reject the idea, they fight, they win.

...or something like that.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Utroms in the painting, Possible Reincarnation influences

Forgot about them in the painting. I think that lends more credibility to an utrom Shredder, but ancient turtles still makes me cringe.

Sure I guess you can saw they went that route But influences are still something and means they are pulling from other sources

I just mean if it's a minor thing, it's not really an influence on the overall. Not that it isn't there. Though some could be coincidental as well. It's possible we will find connections they may not have intended explicitly too.

And shredder could be a macguffin(contract aren't an indication most big name movies do that now and day regardless of character just in case)

I doubt this one myself. I think it's locked for all three and we'll see him.

But seeing as she had been Seen In several Instance Subway, Lair break in, And turtle capture, Chances are shes important, my question is she shredder daughter in this(you argue not cuz hes white) is she adopted is she Splinters(if the script page was not final product and he actually starts human).

She's in the lair break in? I only knew Subway and capture.
I'd think the best way would be the original Mirage for her. Just someone among the soldiers (I refuse to call them Foot at this time) and, for this, who reports closely to Shredder, but no biological connection.

Agreed And i think it might be very likely

Does any one else Notice that that's looks like a drawing that Eastman drew
Seeing as he sat down with the director and drew photo and explain the entirety of the turtles History with him showing him photos and drawing for him, I think is likely

It doesn't look like Eastman's style as much to me. Could be, I guess, but it doesn't really look like it to me.

[1984TMNT]

Wouldn't the action figure have some indication of the Utrom if that were the case, though? Surely they wouldn't gloss over such an important detail in the toy sculpt.


Nope - the pic we're looking at is just concept art - but a telling piece at that. In the final design, they obviously decided to make it hidden; I'm sure for the obligatory "reveal" towards the end of the movie.

http://www.figurerealm.com/Galleries/teenagemutantninjaturtlesanimated/Shredder1-2005.jpg

See? Also - note the red/glowing eyes. We seem to see these exist in pics we've seen of this Shredder as well.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lEldDFHTgr8/maxresdefault.jpg

[MastahShredder]

im betting the following takes place...

1) the foot start doing their thing in the city
2) they get their a**es handed to them in the subway by the turtles, April is there
3) they, the turtles, chase her down, and try to explain what's what
4) she faints
5) discouraged the turtles make their way down to the sewers, and have the conversation we page from the leaked script page
6) pissed, Raph takes off
7) the foot, and subsequently the Shredder gets word of what happened, and how they were taken out
8) they, the foot, raid the sewers, and start this colossal fight with the turtles
9) the turtles are overwhelmed by sheer number, and ultimately bound
10) Shredder in full armor reveals himself, at which point so does Splinter
11) Splinter is overpowered, and thought to be dead, so they leave him, and escort the others off to the snowy mountain area
12) Raph returns, see the destruction, maybe even talks to Splinter, who we discover is not dead, but severely wounded
13) Raph seeks out April, and she and Vernon help Raph find the snowy mountain location
14) they save the other turtles, and together, make their escape (es-cah-peh)
15) they come back to the city...
16) final showdown with shredder, who reveals himself to be...an utrom
17) he monologues about their destiny, and how the ooze was his creation so by default, he is really their father, and that they should join him
18) they reject the idea, they fight, they win.

...or something like that.

Hmm.

Maybe Shredder has some type of beef with Splinter obviously and finds out that when the Turtles were initially captured, Splinter for some reason wasn't. Maybe Shredder himself goes to the lair, seeing an angry Splinter emerge from the dark who has been waiting there for them to come back.

:tinfoilhat:

[MajorViolence]

Nope - the pic we're looking at is just concept art - but a telling piece at that. In the final design, they obviously decided to make it hidden; I'm sure for the obligatory "reveal" towards the end of the movie.

http://www.figurerealm.com/Galleries/teenagemutantninjaturtlesanimated/Shredder1-2005.jpg

See? Also - note the red/glowing eyes.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lEldDFHTgr8/maxresdefault.jpg
I got nothin'. You're completely right.

[1984TMNT]

I got nothin'. You're completely right.

It sucks. Hard.

[electric_sheep]

Are we certain that the Dimension X is scrapped? i mean they may still be Alien Ancient turtles, they could just no be related all that we have seen so far takes place in the first half of the movie...

[graphic_content]

Hmm.

Maybe Shredder has some type of beef with Splinter obviously and finds out that when the Turtles were initially captured, Splinter for some reason wasn't. Maybe Shredder himself goes to the lair, seeing an angry Splinter emerge from the dark who has been waiting there for them to come back.

:tinfoilhat:

oh dude, i love that idea even more. i like the idea of splinter waiting for shredder knowing their history would bring him back to the lair. awesome.

[1984TMNT]

Are we certain that the Dimension X is scrapped? i mean they may still be Alien Ancient turtles, they could just no be related all that we have seen so far takes place in the first half of the movie...

Dimension X could and still probably is very much in play. However, the TMNT are not from there nor are they aliens - officially confirmed by movie staff.

[electric_sheep]

Does he have a huge a robot claw?

http://s14.postimg.org/h5b398map/tyt.jpg

[MastahShredder]

Nope - the pic we're looking at is just concept art - but a telling piece at that. In the final design, they obviously decided to make it hidden; I'm sure for the obligatory "reveal" towards the end of the movie.



See? Also - note the red/glowing eyes. We seem to see these exist in pics we've seen of this Shredder as well.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/lEldDFHTgr8/maxresdefault.jpg

The eyes are almost in the exact same position. And yes, he does look a bit demonish/alien in the eyes.

http://www.primaryignition.com/wp-content/uploads/Captura-de-pantalla-2014-01-28-a-las-23.13.27.png



Is Sachs walking or is he sliding on something?

http://i.imgur.com/MCg7kdd.gif

He also divulged that his version of Eric Sachs a.k.a The Shredder is a departure from what we’ve seen before with his portrayal being the darkest version of the character:

“What I read about Eric Sachs in the script was great, and then how the character has been moulded and changed when we started filming has become something really quite remarkable in terms of what we’ve seen before of the character.”

[SwiftNinjaFox]

oh dude, i love that idea even more. i like the idea of splinter waiting for shredder knowing their history would bring him back to the lair. awesome.

I would expect the lair invasion to happen without the turtles being there. I have no basis for this other than Bebop and Rocksteady invading the lair and fighting Splinter in the Green Door until the Turtles arrive.

Does he have a huge a robot claw?

http://s14.postimg.org/h5b398map/tyt.jpg

I thought the same, which he kind of does in the concept rendered art we've seen with the huge forearm guards and blades off them.



This movie is such a weird reversal for me. I get more excited for it as people speculate on here, then each time I see something official my excitement just plummets. Then I start convincing myself to give it a chance and start getting excited, then the next official piece shoots it down again.

[electric_sheep]

I would expect the lair invasion to happen without the turtles being there. I have no basis for this other than Bebop and Rocksteady invading the lair and fighting Splinter in the Green Door until the Turtles arrive.



I thought the same, which he kind of does in the concept rendered art we've seen with the huge forearm guards and blades off them.



This movie is such a weird reversal for me. I get more excited for it as people speculate on here, then each time I see something official my excitement just plummets. Then I start convincing myself to give it a chance and start getting excited, then the next official piece shoots it down again.
Holly crap i fugured out what it is, hi's got his hand up and is holding the can of ozze the blades are actualy his exo skeleton detached...

[samxsteal]

im betting the following takes place...

1) the foot start doing their thing in the city
2) they get their a**es handed to them in the subway by the turtles, April is there
3) they, the turtles, chase her down, and try to explain what's what
4) she faints
5) discouraged the turtles make their way down to the sewers, and have the conversation we page from the leaked script page
6) pissed, Raph takes off
7) the foot, and subsequently the Shredder gets word of what happened, and how they were taken out
8) they, the foot, raid the sewers, and start this colossal fight with the turtles
9) the turtles are overwhelmed by sheer number, and ultimately bound
10) Shredder in full armor reveals himself, at which point so does Splinter
11) Splinter is overpowered, and thought to be dead, so they leave him, and escort the others off to the snowy mountain area
12) Raph returns, see the destruction, maybe even talks to Splinter, who we discover is not dead, but severely wounded
13) Raph seeks out April, and she and Vernon help Raph find the snowy mountain location
14) they save the other turtles, and together, make their escape (es-cah-peh)
15) they come back to the city...
16) final showdown with shredder, who reveals himself to be...an utrom
17) he monologues about their destiny, and how the ooze was his creation so by default, he is really their father, and that they should join him
18) they reject the idea, they fight, they win.

...or something like that.MEh seems pretty cool to me.

Forgot about them in the painting. I think that lends more credibility to an utrom Shredder, but ancient turtles still makes me cringe.Kappa all i gotta say Maybe there a mystical aspect and they fought demons and so he tried to recreate them Ala ooze and Succeeded and failed Turtle and splinter reincarnate and remember shredder and take him out Maybe not likely but something.



I just mean if it's a minor thing, it's not really an influence on the overall. Not that it isn't there. Though some could be coincidental as well. It's possible we will find connections they may not have intended explicitly too.But see its little hints like this that the Older movies Dont. I mean I know now there is a heck of a lot more to draw from but really this as so many tiny details in the lair in the designs (NYC button on leo come on) thats a nice little touch, and just for the fact that we know they are drawing from these thing even in the slightest is exciting. To bad no New site reports these connection to let fellow fans know.



I doubt this one myself. I think it's locked for all three and we'll see him. Meh its a hit or miss they do that alot with actors I guess they will sign them on to guarantee that the at least have them if they want to use them but if they choose not to they can with out trouble



She's in the lair break in? I only knew Subway and capture.
I'd think the best way would be the original Mirage for her. Just someone among the soldiers (I refuse to call them Foot at this time) and, for this, who reports closely to Shredder, but no biological connection. Well I guess i kind of assumed this Remember the video of April biking to "china town" and to foot being all around (i thought it was rumored she was there as well as shredder?) Im assuming that the before break in, (we haven't seen the break in really) and the the after she looks like shes commanding the troops so to speak.



It doesn't look like Eastman's style as much to me. Could be, I guess, but it doesn't really look like it to me.Eastmans style has alway been kind of a round blocky style
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/dc/70/EastmanTMNT.JPG?itok=aOUtWcP8
Which this photo definitely looks drawn and has a very similar style and seeing as Kevin said he drew for Johnathan it wouldn't surprise me if it was

Hmm.

Maybe Shredder has some type of beef with Splinter obviously and finds out that when the Turtles were initially captured, Splinter for some reason wasn't. Maybe Shredder himself goes to the lair, seeing an angry Splinter emerge from the dark who has been waiting there for them to come back.

:tinfoilhat:

Agreed

[TigerClaw]

With those leaked images, I'm surprise we havent seen any about the Turtle Van. That pic with the Turtles on top of the Big Rig, I wonder if that will be before or after they gave chase?

I imagine they use the Turtle Van and then they chase the Truck with it, Then one of them gets on top of the Turtle Van and jumps on top of the big truck?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Kappa all i gotta say Maybe there a mystical aspect and they fought demons and so he tried to recreate them Ala ooze and Succeeded and failed Turtle and splinter reincarnate and remember shredder and take him out Maybe not likely but something.

Me said that. Me no Kappa! Me Swift! ;)

Maybe, I guess, but just going purely off the image I don't like the idea of the turtles not being a unique accident. The idea that there are more of them, be it alien race or mystic creatures or whatever lessens them to me. But I'm also not a fan of the whole manifest destiny crap Hollywood is in love with in all sorts of different genres.

But see its little hints like this that the Older movies Dont. I mean I know now there is a heck of a lot more to draw from but really this as so many tiny details in the lair in the designs (NYC button on leo come on) thats a nice little touch, and just for the fact that we know they are drawing from these thing even in the slightest is exciting. To bad no New site reports these connection to let fellow fans know.

What connections? There's nothing to really report on....yet. There's just things we can speculate on. Until the movie's out, it's hard to really connect all the Easter egg dots.

Speaking of the old movies, though, I've always wished there was the level of behind the scenes that we get today. There was A LOT going on in the sewer lair in the first movie that we never even got a glimpse of.

Having recently re-read the first three collection Ultimate hardbacks and rewatching the original movie on Monday, I did realize something I never noticed before. The farm scenes when April is writing her journal are straight from the comics.

Mikey is beating on a punching bag.
Raphael is standing on top of the roof at night (though he yells in frustration rather than silent vigil)
Leo is spending his time in the woods.
Of course the Don/Casey scene replaced Raph/Casey, but that one is pretty well known from the comic inspiration.

Neat single scene comic references I had never noticed before.

Well I guess i kind of assumed this Remember the video of April biking to "china town" and to foot being all around (i thought it was rumored she was there as well as shredder?) Im assuming that the before break in, (we haven't seen the break in really) and the the after she looks like shes commanding the troops so to speak.

Ahhh, I hadn't seen that one.

Eastmans style has alway been kind of a round blocky style
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/dc/70/EastmanTMNT.JPG?itok=aOUtWcP8
Which this photo definitely looks drawn and has a very similar style and seeing as Kevin said he drew for Johnathan it wouldn't surprise me if it was

Yeah, he has a very distinct style, but I don't see it in that Shredder drawing. It just doesn't look like his style to me.

[Puddinpop]

I agree. Perhaps he has artifacts of Saki's. Like the helmet, etc. Most of it looks like something a samurai would wear in the past. Some of the suit looks very old and unusual for something that you could create today. If I had to guess, he incorporates the artifacts into the tech-suit.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5124/13597415325_96b5675d30.jpg



I agree with you. I think Sachs is obsessed and that he has the Suit/artifact. But I also think that he is being operated by Krang or an Utrom. Here's what it says on the TMNT Wiki page, " think of the scroll "

In Japan circa 300 AD, a powerful demon THREATENS THE PEOPLE. In an attempt to stop him, the EMPEROR OF JAPAN RECRUITS POWERFUL WARRIORS: the FIVE DRAGONS, who clad themselves in armor enchanted by DRAGON SPIRITS. The demon appeared to be defeated by one of the dragons, OROKU SAKI. However, before the final blow was delivered, the demon contacted Saki on a mental plane and offered him great power. Saki agreed, allowing the demon's soul to INHABIT HIS BODY. Reborn as the Tengu Shredder, Saki SEIZED CONTROL OF THE LAND. THE FOUR REMAINING DRAGONS (the Ninja Tribunal) TRAINED AND ACQUIRED MORE POWER TO DEFEAT THEIR FORMER FRIEND, which they were eventually able to do. They SEALED AWAY HIS BODY IN A CASKET AND HID IT AWAY, AS WELL AS THE SEPARATED HELMET AND GAUNTLET. The Ninja Tribunal began a seemingly eternal watch to make sure the three ARTIFACTS would never be reunited, as doing so would revive the Tengu Shredder. The Tengu Shredder was not forgotten by followers, the Heralds, who had long since sought to restore their master, but were impeded by being under the control of the Utrom Shredder and then Karai. However, they successfully managed to manipulate the Turtles and Agent Bishop into setting them free, allowing them to proceed with resurrecting their master. The Ninja Tribunal recruited the Turtles and four human fighters as their Acolytes to retrieve the artifacts first. Unfortunately, the Heralds were ultimately successful and the Tengu Shredder returned

Now I'm not sure about this "demon" supernatural thing. But I think it could be the same Utrom that operated the artifact in Saki during feudal era Japan. Just a guess though.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Is that all from the 2k3 series?

I thought it was kind of convoluted and overly complicated when I just read over it originally.

[MastahShredder]

I'll give Paramount one thing. They've successfully put some of us on a wild goose hunt.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I'll give Paramount one thing. They've successfully put some of us on a wild goose hunt.

Ace Goose?
*runs and hides*

[samxsteal]

Me said that. Me no Kappa! Me Swift! ;) I ment the Japanese Kappa like the demon not Calling you Kappa sorry "Kappa, All i gotta say." hahaha


Maybe, I guess, but just going purely off the image I don't like the idea of the turtles not being a unique accident. The idea that there are more of them, be it alien race or mystic creatures or whatever lessens them to me. But I'm also not a fan of the whole manifest destiny crap Hollywood is in love with in all sorts of different genres.
Yeah i get that But i could have just been a legend as well Kappa ANd other demons were a mjor part of Japanese mythology rat demons too.



What connections? There's nothing to really report on....yet. There's just things we can speculate on. Until the movie's out, it's hard to really connect all the Easter egg dots.
All the one i listed earlier Whether or not the connection are strong the fact that they're their is nice. Also little things like Konji every where in the lair the chalk drawing of child turtles with their names scribbled on the wall as well and japanese characters,

Speaking of the old movies, though, I've always wished there was the level of behind the scenes that we get today. There was A LOT going on in the sewer lair in the first movie that we never even got a glimpse of.true


Having recently re-read the first three collection Ultimate hardbacks and rewatching the original movie on Monday, I did realize something I never noticed before. The farm scenes when April is writing her journal are straight from the comics.

Mikey is beating on a punching bag.
Raphael is standing on top of the roof at night (though he yells in frustration rather than silent vigil)
Leo is spending his time in the woods.
Of course the Don/Casey scene replaced Raph/Casey, but that one is pretty well known from the comic inspiration.

Neat single scene comic references I had never noticed before.
This and the Final fight are the two biggest thing the movie has to the comic that i love.



Ahhh, I hadn't seen that one.Yeah some of these videos are hard to track down bogged down by copy videos, trailer, fan trailer, reviews, rants, and praises.




Yeah, he has a very distinct style, but I don't see it in that Shredder drawing. It just doesn't look like his style to me.IDK sure does to me Especially when looking at the covers to the tmnt Volumes

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I ment the Japanese Kappa like the demon not Calling you Kappa sorry "Kappa, All i gotta say." hahaha

With Candy Kappa, it's hard to tell! :lol:

Yeah i get that But i could have just been a legend as well Kappa ANd other demons were a mjor part of Japanese mythology rat demons too.
I won't buy it without a kitsune. Because kitsune are the awesomest of all. (no, my name shows no bias, quiet you!)

[thebrownranger]

I like the Splinter shown here as opposed to the new Splinter (although I like him too).

Same here bro. These pics do look cool though.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Does the guy who made the video have any contact info? Maybe he can take some high-res pictures of the book pics.

[electric_sheep]

Does the guy who made the video have any contact info? Maybe he can take some high-res pictures of the book pics.

sent him a p.m on youtube, i don't think that he will respond...

[samxsteal]

sent him a p.m on youtube, i don't think that he will respond...

did the same as well as his twitter no response

[RedRocBoy]

Really hope Eric Sachs isn't a Utrom. But if he is whatever.:tcool::tcool::tcool::tcool:

[1984TMNT]

Really hope Eric Sachs isn't a Utrom. But if he is whatever.:tcool::tcool::tcool::tcool:

Oh, he is.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Oh, he is.

Eric Sachs is an Utrom, who is a robot controlled by a miniaturized Oroku Saki.

I'VE CRACKED THE MYSTERY!

[samxsteal]

Eric Sachs is an Utrom, who is a robot controlled by a miniaturized Oroku Saki.

I'VE CRACKED THE MYSTERY!

Jinkies ........

[MastahShredder]

I agree with you. I think Sachs is obsessed and that he has the Suit/artifact. But I also think that he is being operated by Krang or an Utrom. Here's what it says on the TMNT Wiki page, " think of the scroll "

In Japan circa 300 AD, a powerful demon THREATENS THE PEOPLE. In an attempt to stop him, the EMPEROR OF JAPAN RECRUITS POWERFUL WARRIORS: the FIVE DRAGONS, who clad themselves in armor enchanted by DRAGON SPIRITS. The demon appeared to be defeated by one of the dragons, OROKU SAKI. However, before the final blow was delivered, the demon contacted Saki on a mental plane and offered him great power. Saki agreed, allowing the demon's soul to INHABIT HIS BODY. Reborn as the Tengu Shredder, Saki SEIZED CONTROL OF THE LAND. THE FOUR REMAINING DRAGONS (the Ninja Tribunal) TRAINED AND ACQUIRED MORE POWER TO DEFEAT THEIR FORMER FRIEND, which they were eventually able to do. They SEALED AWAY HIS BODY IN A CASKET AND HID IT AWAY, AS WELL AS THE SEPARATED HELMET AND GAUNTLET. The Ninja Tribunal began a seemingly eternal watch to make sure the three ARTIFACTS would never be reunited, as doing so would revive the Tengu Shredder. The Tengu Shredder was not forgotten by followers, the Heralds, who had long since sought to restore their master, but were impeded by being under the control of the Utrom Shredder and then Karai. However, they successfully managed to manipulate the Turtles and Agent Bishop into setting them free, allowing them to proceed with resurrecting their master. The Ninja Tribunal recruited the Turtles and four human fighters as their Acolytes to retrieve the artifacts first. Unfortunately, the Heralds were ultimately successful and the Tengu Shredder returned

Now I'm not sure about this "demon" supernatural thing. But I think it could be the same Utrom that operated the artifact in Saki during feudal era Japan. Just a guess though.

This is a guess but if Splinter does stay at the lair and The Foot or Shredder don't know of his existence there yet. They could cut to shots of Splinter meditating. Thinking of his sons, thinking..of the past.

[sethmartin]

I liked how "The Dark Knight" and "The Dark Knight Rises" both had a couple of little references to the Tim Burton Batman movies. I'm hoping they do that with the Turtles. Even if it's just a small reference for the hard core fans.

[Puddinpop]

Honestly I'm looking forward to seeing Eastman in the movie. I always thought it was cool seeing Stan Lee in films and the fact that they're having one of the original TMNT creators in the new Turtles reboot is really cool in my opinion.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I liked how "The Dark Knight" and "The Dark Knight Rises" both had a couple of little references to the Tim Burton Batman movies. I'm hoping they do that with the Turtles. Even if it's just a small reference for the hard core fans.

They did? What were they?

[Galactus]

IDW Kevin says the movie has heavy ties into tmnt current mythos that includes IDW,

I've never read anything that suggests Kevin has said that,

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

I liked how "The Dark Knight" and "The Dark Knight Rises" both had a couple of little references to the Tim Burton Batman movies. I'm hoping they do that with the Turtles. Even if it's just a small reference for the hard core fans.

They did? I've seen both several times and don't recall anything specific.

I think it'd be really cool if Kevin plays the blind guy that gets pushed out of the way during the origin...assuming that's the route they go. *fingers crossed*

[SwiftNinjaFox]

If Splinter is a lab rat, not sure if the turtles will be an accident on the street.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

If Splinter is a lab rat, not sure if the turtles will be an accident on the street.

He is? Where'd you hear that?

[sethmartin]

He is? Where'd you hear that?

In this new book that's coming out, there is a page from the new script which states that Splinter starts out as a lab rat.

[sethmartin]

They did? What were they?

In the Dark Knight there is a scene where the Joker has a meeting with criminals at a conference table where he does a "magic trick" with the pencil through the eye. This is a little nod to Batman when the Joker has a meeting with criminals at a conference table and electrocutes the guy with the hand buzzard.

Also in the Dark Knight there is a stand off in the street where Batman is racing towards the Joker who is just standing there saying "Hit me" and Batman swerves and misses him at the last minute. This is a tribute to the first Tim Burton movie where Batman is flying towards the Joker who is saying "come on" and Batman misses him. There is also the scene at the end where the Joker fights Batman on a roof top and falls to his death (Although they changed the ending because of Heath Ledgers death.)

In DKR there is the ballroom scene where Bruce Wayne dances with Selina Kyle which is a nod to the scene in Batman Returns when the two dance. Also the fact that Bane lives and operates out of the sewers which is where the Penguin lived in Batman Returns.

These are just little nods for the hardcore fans, not direct scenes lifted. I remember these from a website I saw. I think there were a few more little things but I don't remember what they were.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

In this new book that's coming out, there is a page from the new script which states that Splinter starts out as a lab rat.

Ah, very interesting.

[sethmartin]

Ah, very interesting.

White draft - 4/23/13
CONTINUED

Raph:
Spoken like a true Boy scout

Leo:
You think I asked to be the Leader of this outfit. Raph? You think i wanted this? Splinter chose Me. I'm Just Doing My duty.

Mikey:
Ha. Doodie

Raph:
Some "duty" - Risking our necks every night for surface-dwellers who'd lock us up in a zoo, or worse, if they knew we existed. You saw how that chick looked at us......
{stepping INTO THE LIGHT}
...like we were freaks

The other turtle fallow raphael into the light. Leonardo shakes his head, disapointed in his brother. And is the first time we've really seen the turtles out of the shadows. They look like heroes, but i different kind of hero. They don't relish their victory. They're just teenagers, They're Freaking tired. And they want to unwind

Mikey:
Maybe if we save enough people, if we do enough good, we'll be accepted up there, Whaddya think.....?

Donnie:
Grow up Mikey....

Leo:
I think... That we must be doing this for a reason. I just dont know what that reason is...

The turtle shuffle into their lair. Leo keeps his armor and Swords strapped on, but the other start slowly tossing off their armor and their weapons

Splinter: The bonds of family are stronger than steek...

The turtles spin back..As SPLINTER step out of the dark. The humanoid version of the lab rat we met in OUR opening. Mutated and wizened, with brown hair, gray in places, scoliosis back, four feet tall, carrying a walking stick

[MastahShredder]

Leo:
I think... That we must be doing this for a reason. I just dont know what that reason is...

Makes me think even more about potential flashbacks.

[Matt2310]

What book is this????

[Rooish]

Wow is that seriously the script? It sounds lame, but also nicely existential.

[sethmartin]

What book is this????

The book we are discussing in this thread. It comes with a page from the script.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

What book is this????
Andrew Farago's 'The Ultimate Visual History', out this summer.

[electric_sheep]

Wow is that seriously the script? It sounds lame, but also nicely existential.

It sounds like it's written by an amateur...
Using lines like "They're Freaking tired." doesne't give hope at all...

[Rooish]

Yeah screenplays are funny. Putting that in the descriptive text, not just the character's words! So informal!

[MastahShredder]

It sounds like it's written by an amateur...
Using lines like "They're Freaking tired." doesne't give hope at all...

The writer is trying to portray them as doing what they do as humble teenagers who happen to be involved in a mess that they fully don't understand yet.

[electric_sheep]

Yeah screenplays are funny. Putting that in the descriptive text, not just the character's words! So informal!

I know this is not a lot to judge by, but it's bad, you can tell that it's written by the same guy from the Blue Door...

[sethmartin]

I know this is not a lot to judge by, but it's bad, you can tell that it's written by the same guy from the Blue Door...

Sounds like something out of TMNT to me.

[MajorViolence]

It sounds like it's written by an amateur...
Using lines like "They're Freaking tired." doesne't give hope at all...

And yet, so in line with the way the Blue Door was written.

Seriously, there was so much swearing that didn't even take place in the film's actual dialog. It was bizarre.

[Rooish]

LOL! Who wrote that? And why was it called Blue Door?

I can't believe Mike's doody joke. Whatta idiot.

[electric_sheep]

And yet, so in line with the way the Blue Door was written.

Seriously, there was so much swearing that didn't even take place in the film's actual dialog. It was bizarre.

Just a bad writer who doesen't know to describe stuff right i guess, like a pissed off child results to cursing...

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

glad i am not the only one who noticed the awful writing....does not give me high hopes

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Batman scenes.

I don't think those are intentional nods to previous films. I think that's a real stretch to suggest a dance is because they wanted to refer to Batman Returns. The Joker with mobsters seems fairly standard too.

The Joker face off on the street seems possible, but could also be coincidental.

They just seem more like coincidence than the writer or director intentionally wanted to parallel the earlier films.


Raph:
Spoken like a true Boy scout

Leo:
You think I asked to be the Leader of this outfit. Raph? You think i wanted this? Splinter chose Me. I'm Just Doing My duty.


This "Splinter chose me" conversation is altered, but also from the Blue Door script.

The writer is trying to portray them as doing what they do as humble teenagers who happen to be involved in a mess that they fully don't understand yet.

Sounds like something out of TMNT to me.

The descriptive of the scene has nothing to do with the portrayal of the characters or the "feel" of something out of TMNT, though. "They're freaking tired" is just the script writer's style. You saw it in the Blue Door script as well. Any time a character swears, it's cut off, but they like using "freaking" or swearing in the descriptions of the actions.

It seems like lazy writing to me, at least when reading through the script. I don't see how that conveys anything more than "They're tired" or "They're exhausted."

[MastahShredder]

I don't think those are intentional nods to previous films. I think that's a real stretch to suggest a dance is because they wanted to refer to Batman Returns. The Joker with mobsters seems fairly standard too.

The Joker face off on the street seems possible, but could also be coincidental.

They just seem more like coincidence than the writer or director intentionally wanted to parallel the earlier films.



This "Splinter chose me" conversation is altered, but also from the Blue Door script.





The descriptive of the scene has nothing to do with the portrayal of the characters or the "feel" of something out of TMNT, though. "They're freaking tired" is just the script writer's style. You saw it in the Blue Door script as well. Any time a character swears, it's cut off, but they like using "freaking" or swearing in the descriptions of the actions.

It seems like lazy writing to me, at least when reading through the script. I don't see how that conveys anything more than "They're tired" or "They're exhausted."

Whats so bad about "they're tired"? They could be "tired" from fighting. Literally. How would that be a bad thing? It probably means there will be a ton of action. I like that they are going with a more serious tone with them. They might not succeed and it may not come out well but it's being attempted.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Whats so bad about "they're tired"? They could be "tired" from fighting. Literally. How would that be a bad thing? It probably means there will be a ton of action.

i think what swift means is just that...there is nothing wrong with "They're tired"


there is no need for the added "Freaking" or "F*cking"

[MastahShredder]

i think what swift means is just that...there is nothing wrong with "They're tired"


there is no need for the added "Freaking" or "F*cking"

It's just emphasizing the line. I don't see what the big deal is.

There is a distinctive difference between.

"I'm tired".

and

"I'm ****ing tired".

The Mikey line is atrocious though. Yikes.

[samxsteal]

is it just me or Have other people read scripts with these kind of discriptive words as well lol Ive only read a couple and just about all of them sound similar to this using freaking and F&cking alot I even think Brian Singers was like that too for First class

[NoName999]

He's not saying there's anything wrong with "they're tired"

He's saying that using the phrase "they're freaking tired" to describe an action is idiotic.

Now if one of the turtles said "They're freaking tired" that would actually make sense

[samxsteal]

It's just emphasizing the line. I don't see what the big deal is.

There is a distinctive difference between.

"I'm tired".

and

"I'm ****ing tired".

The Mikey line is atrocious though. Yikes.
And yet i have heard this line before in TMNT specifically lol

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

It's just emphasizing the line. I don't see what the big deal is.

There is a distinctive difference between.

"I'm tired".

and

"I'm ****ing tired".

The Mikey line is atrocious though. Yikes.

i hate to bring it up again, when i was in film school these were things we were taught where bad.kinda like Lens Flares and shaky cam

not that swearing could never be in a movie but just that it shouldn't be in there just because.

teachers would make us write scripts without enhancement words...using "Freaking" or "F*cking" would have been looked at as a crutch and a lazy mans way of just adding words to the paper so you had the right amount of pages

is it just me or Have other people read scripts with these kind of discriptive words as well lol Ive only read a couple and just about all of them sound similar to this using freaking and F&cking alot I even think Brian Singers was like that too for First class

it's because we are in the age that lines and dialog no longer matter, why use well thought out written dialog, when slang can eat up most of the talk time in favor of action and special effects

poop and toilet humor is the norm now, and I actually know many film school teachers who were fired because the refused to conform to this style of new movie making

[samxsteal]

I've never read anything that suggests Kevin has said that,

Seriously it was posted on this site there countless interviews of him saying similar things and a video where he outright says it. your your search function and find it

[MastahShredder]

i hate to bring it up again, when i was in film school these were thing we were taught where bad.kinda like Lens Flairs and shaky cam

not that swearing could never be in a movie but just that it shouldn't be in there just because.

teachers would make us write scripts without enhancement words...using "Freaking" or "F8cking" would have been looked at as a crutch and a lazy mans way of just adding words to the paper so you had the right amount of pages

I agree with that it should not be overused because yes, it just becomes a crutch to use and writers tend to use them when available. I just think there is bigger fish to fry with what we've seen.

[NoName999]

Alas, nothing will ever beat the joy and the poor writing that is "eye****s" from the original script.

[Galactus]

Seriously it was posted on this site there countless interviews of him saying similar things and a video where he outright says it. your your search function and find it

Well I've looked around and can't find anything of that nature. Seeing as you know what you'd be looking for it wouldn't be too much trouble to find a link to it.

[Xav]

also I don't think karai qualifies as a reference as she's been a main character in every tmnt universe but one.Well two actually Fred Wolf and Archie. Though one is a spin-off of the other.
Well, Schrader reported to Krang in The Blue Door. Maybe Shredder IS Krang?Ah it seems that that source "close to the production" might have been right after all.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=93667
I have no basis for this other than Bebop and Rocksteady invading the lair and fighting Splinter in the Green Door until the Turtles arrive.What the heck is the Green Door? Some kind of worse version than the Blue Door?

[electric_sheep]

And yet i have heard this line before in TMNT specifically lol

It's not that it's there it's that it's in the wrong place.

You shouldn't use "They are freaking tyred" You describe how they tyred "They are barely standing and are trying to catch their back breath"
atleast that's atleast how i do it, show don't tell....

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Well two actually Fred Wolf and Archie. Though one is a spin-off of the other

3/4 if you count the original movies and next mutation

4 depending if you count NM as a continuation of the movies or a stand alone series

[samxsteal]

Well I've looked around and can't find anything of that nature. Seeing as you know what you'd be looking for it wouldn't be too much trouble to find a link to it.
did you even look seriously
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=46843&highlight=eastman+interview

There is bunch in this thread
It's not that it's there it's that it's in the wrong place.

You shouldn't use "They are freaking tyred" You describe how they tyred "They are barely standing and are trying to catch their back breath"
atleast that's atleast how i do it, show don't tell....
IM not talking about the freaking like i was talking about the Doodie part,

As for the "freaking Line" i have heard similar Descriptors in multiple scripts including First class i believe

[MajorViolence]

did you even look seriously
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=46843&highlight=eastman+interview

And a few posts after that video:

Nowhere in that does he say anything was cribbed from the IDW series. He only states the creative process was like what they did on the IDW series.

[slingtheory]

Well two actually Fred Wolf and Archie. Though one is a spin-off of the other.
3/4 if you count the original movies and next mutation

4 depending if you count NM as a continuation of the movies or a stand alone series

oops. I forgot about archie and I think I've legitimately blocked next mutation from my mind because I never think about it until someone brings it up. I left out the movies on purpose because I consider tmnt a continuation.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

The whole "freaking tired" discussion, I think for me, stems largely from the Blue Door script as a whole. I actually agree, it's not all garbage (I wouldn't be doing my rewrite on it if it were), but there are a lot of places where it's just bad writing, the dialogue and the description/action lines.

In some cases it just adds nothing to it. The swearing is thrown in for no reason. I'm actually removing it for, what I feel, is more appropriate descriptives.

And yes, eyef*cks, is probably my most hated, snarl-inducing inclusion in the script. I want to print those pages out and burn them instead of just replacing the word in my version.

[Radical Raph]

I actually think the doodie line could be kinda funny if he said it in the background or something. It would only work in contrast with Leonardo's stark expression and the seriousness of his conversation with Raph.

I know it sounds kinda immature, but remember, these are teenagers and it is Mikey.

[electric_sheep]

I actually think the doodie line could be kinda funny if he said it in the background or something. It would only work in contrast with Leonardo's stark expression and the seriousness of his conversation with Raph.

I know it sounds kinda immature, but remember, these are teenagers and it is Mikey.

Tenagers? How big then they will be when they become fully adult, they are like 15, right?

[MajorViolence]

I actually think the doodie line could be kinda funny if he said it in the background or something. It would only work in contrast with Leonardo's stark expression and the seriousness of his conversation with Raph.

I know it sounds kinda immature, but remember, these are teenagers and it is Mikey.

It's just a painfully awful line, IMO. It's obviously not like that one line will singlehandedly ruin the movie (although the image of headlines reading "Duty/Doodie Joke Brings End To Ninja Turtles Franchise" is kind of hilarious) but being it's a part of our first taste of the film's dialog, and it's an eye-roller. It's a legit concern.

The movie wold certainly win some points back if Raph smacks Mikey in the head for that joke.

[Radical Raph]

It's just a painfully awful line, IMO. It's obviously not like that one line will singlehandedly ruin the movie (although the image of headlines reading "Duty/Doodie Joke Brings End To Ninja Turtles Franchise" is kind of hilarious) but being it's a part of our first taste of the film's dialog, and it's an eye-roller. It's a legit concern.

The movie wold certainly win some points back if Raph smacks Mikey in the head for that joke.
Yea, it will play off better if the movie shows a little self awareness for how silly the line is. Honestly, I'm in my 20s and I still sometimes point out when someone accidentally says doodie. Not all the time though, but it's definitely something I'd do jokingly around my brothers.

The mask line from the trailer was pretty funny so at least it has that going for it so far.

[electric_sheep]

Yea, it will play off better if the movie shows a little self awareness for how silly the line is. Honestly, I'm in my 20s and I still sometimes point out when someone accidentally says doodie. Not all the time though, but it's definitely something I'd do jokingly around my brothers.

The mask line from the trailer was pretty funny so at least it has that going for it so far.

If that happend in a Michael Bay production that guy would get fired imidietly.

[Radical Raph]

If that happend in a Michael Bay production that guy would get fired imidietly.
What? You mean self awareness? lol

[electric_sheep]

What? You mean self awareness? lol

Yeah, They would be like,

What? What is this ****, who wrote this, was it you Steve? Get your self aware ass out of here, we don't take kindly to your types in here...

[MajorViolence]

Yeah, They would be like

What? What is this ****, who wrote this, was it you Steve? Get your self aware ass out of here, we don't take kindly to your types in here...

"If we trusted men like you, audiences would never have known the joy of giant robot testicles!"

[Radical Raph]

Yeah, They would be like

What? What is this ****, who wrote this, was it you Steve? Get your self aware ass out of here, we don't take kindly to your types in here...
Lol, as long as the comedy doesn't resort to pot jokes and dogs humping each other, I'll be alright.

Oh, and giant wrecking ball testicles. Can't forget about those.

[electric_sheep]

Lol, as long as the comedy doesn't resort to pot jokes and dogs humping each other, I'll be alright.

You haven't read the Blue Door, have you?

[MajorViolence]

I can at least express relief that Mikey appears to be back to being the funny one. In the Blue Door he was more the horny one.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I actually think the doodie line could be kinda funny if he said it in the background or something. It would only work in contrast with Leonardo's stark expression and the seriousness of his conversation with Raph.

I know it sounds kinda immature, but remember, these are teenagers and it is Mikey.

Honestly, I kind of sighed at that line because it worries me of the overall tone of the humor. Though I'll admit, it's largely biased because of Transformers. I thought the crude/immature humor was painfully out of place in that movie.

I can see it work if used subtly in TMNT, particularly with Mikey. If it's more of a background snirk and under his breath statement, it would seem like Mikey to me. Honestly, bad dialogue CAN sometimes be saved by how an actor delivers it.

Tenagers? How big then they will be when they become fully adult, they are like 15, right?

They were 17 in Blue Door. I would expect that more than 15.

The mask line from the trailer was pretty funny so at least it has that going for it so far.

While people focus in on the face in that scene as a source of outrage, a LOT of people, even those who hate the look, have agreed that's a pretty good portrayal of something Mike would do.

Lol, as long as the comedy doesn't resort to pot jokes and dogs humping each other, I'll be alright.

Oh, and giant wrecking ball testicles. Can't forget about those.

That's...my worry. Hopefully not. Honestly, The Blue Door script's humor wasn't my biggest gripe. Some lines were bad, but the humor was better than the Transformers jokes.

I can at least express relief that Mikey appears to be back to being the funny one. In the Blue Door he was more the horny one.

I'm still working on my re-read through it, but I haven't got that impression so far. Granted, there's the "hot turtle chick" at the end, but let's forget that was ever written. -_- But when he first sees April he makes the crack of Casey putting in a good word for him. I took that as a joke more than a legit interest.

No worse than the 90s film.
"She's great"
"You're tellin' me"
"An understatement as usual"
"The girl is a fox." (Nice foreshadowing, Leo *snicker*)

Or Mike kissing the TV "I'm in looooove"
Or even "!! She called me Miiikeyyy" to which Don responds with irritation.

So the first movie still still have the turtles acknowledging April as attractive, despite the Mirage comics having them with a bit more of a "she's hot....for a human"

Raph seemed to find humans weird and even kinda ugly looking in the comics. ;)

[Radical Raph]

You haven't read the Blue Door, have you?
Not the whole thing, but I'm hoping most of it was altered for the final script.

[MajorViolence]

Don't leave out Mikey's excitement over the possibility of meeting turtle babes upon realizing they're actually part of an alien species. Or the extremely inappropriate sexual attraction between him and his "smoking hot turtle chick" student at the end.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Don't leave out Mikey's excitement over the possibility of meeting turtle babes upon realizing they're actually part of an alien species. Or the extremely inappropriate sexual attraction between him and his "smoking hot turtle chick" student at the end.

I think I mostly effectively scrubbed the alien turtle aspects from my brain. Thanks, Major...thanks a lot. :lol:

[Rooish]

No worse than the 90s film.
"She's great"
"You're tellin' me"
"An understatement as usual"
"The girl is a fox." (Nice foreshadowing, Leo *snicker*)

Or Mike kissing the TV "I'm in looooove"
Or even "!! She called me Miiikeyyy" to which Don responds with irritation.

So the first movie still still have the turtles acknowledging April as attractive, despite the Mirage comics having them with a bit more of a "she's hot....for a human"

Raph seemed to find humans weird and even kinda ugly looking in the comics. ;)

I loved that part, with Raph thinking April looked just okay. I kind of like to view the turtles as asexual. I definitely do not like seeing Mikey as the horny one. I read Blue Door (why is it called that)? but must have blocked it out.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I loved that part, with Raph thinking April looked just okay. I kind of like to view the turtles as asexual. I definitely do not like seeing Mikey as the horny one. I read Blue Door (why is it called that)? but must have blocked it out.

Projects often have codenames so it doesn't leak out what's being worked on.

The Nintendo GameCube was once called Project Dolphin.

Movie scripts are the same way, I think.

[Kanon]

Maybe there is a meeting room, where they have made Brainstormings in, that has a blue door.

There was once a class projekt in my school that was called bubblegum cause everyone working on it were chewing some. :P

[MajorViolence]

I think I mostly effectively scrubbed the alien turtle aspects from my brain. Thanks, Major...thanks a lot. :lol:

If I weren't already busy with comic projects of my own, I would totally make a comic or storyboard of this script. It's just too funny for words, and it deserves a better legacy than a difficult-to-find PDF file on the Internet.

I remember how it made my month when Cracked filmed scenes from the Cameron Spider-Man script. I wish someone would do something like that for the Blue Door.

[electric_sheep]

Maybe there is a meeting room, where they have made Brainstormings in, that has a blue door.

There was once a class projekt in my school that was called bubblegum cause everyone working on it were chewing some. :P

Maybe they just played a lot of metroid?

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I remember how it made my month when Cracked filmed scenes from the Cameron Spider-Man script. I wish someone would do something like that for the Blue Door.

so tempting...i have been wanting to get back into filming short scenes

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I remember how it made my month when Cracked filmed scenes from the Cameron Spider-Man script.

Guess I have something to look for this evening for a laugh.

[MajorViolence]

Guess I have something to look for this evening for a laugh.

Here you go! (http://www.cracked.com/video_18435_the-awful-spider-man-movie-james-cameron-almost-made.html)

Edit: I just rewatched it for my open entertainments and sadly there's only one scene reenacted. Damn. I could have sworn it was two or three.

[Galactus]

did you even look seriously
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=46843&highlight=eastman+interview

I dd look and as far as far as I can discern from that video he didn't say anything was taken fomthe IDW series.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Here you go! (http://www.cracked.com/video_18435_the-awful-spider-man-movie-james-cameron-almost-made.html)

Edit: I just rewatched it for my open entertainments and sadly there's only one scene reenacted. Damn. I could have sworn it was two or three.

BWAHAHAHA :lol::lol:

Docfessor Spidopuss.

[graphic_content]

Here you go! (http://www.cracked.com/video_18435_the-awful-spider-man-movie-james-cameron-almost-made.html)

Edit: I just rewatched it for my open entertainments and sadly there's only one scene reenacted. Damn. I could have sworn it was two or three.

Man, I cant believe that ALMOST happened. and Cameron is regarded as such an amazing director. that dialouge between 'professor' octopus and peter was just ridiculous, and TWO ppl bitten by a radioactive spider???

stuff like that just detracts from the overall 'what makes the main character special' - which is the exact same reason I had issue with most of the other mutants introduced in the Turtle-verse.

[MajorViolence]

Man, I cant believe that ALMOST happened. and Cameron is regarded as such an amazing director. that dialouge between 'professor' octopus and peter was just ridiculous, and TWO ppl bitten by a radioactive spider???

stuff like that just detracts from the overall 'what makes the main character special' - which is the exact same reason I had issue with most of the other mutants introduced in the Turtle-verse.

Believe me, he actually only scratched the surface of that script's problems, too. It was an absolute thing of beauty.

[electric_sheep]

Believe me, he actually only scratched the surface of that script's problems, too. It was an absolute thing of beauty.

And gues who was rumoreded to play Doctor Spiderpuss,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_2003.jpg

[TigerClaw]

Man, I cant believe that ALMOST happened. and Cameron is regarded as such an amazing director. that dialouge between 'professor' octopus and peter was just ridiculous, and TWO ppl bitten by a radioactive spider???

stuff like that just detracts from the overall 'what makes the main character special' - which is the exact same reason I had issue with most of the other mutants introduced in the Turtle-verse.
The other thing you forgot to mention was, James Cameron's take on Spider-Man had the organic webshooters, that were in the first 3 films, And not every fan was happy about that one change. Fortunately The two Amazing Spider-Man movies stayed with the original webshooters.

[MajorViolence]

Honestly I never found the organic webshooters to be a big deal. It's kind of like Splinter's rat vs human origin, in that I have a preference (I prefer the mechanical webshooters) but I really don't think the other approach really has enough of an impact on the final product to matter.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I felt it did impact the final product in that Peter lost a lot of his genius intellect. Toby's Peter, due to script, didn't seem like the inventor genius the character is supposed to be.

And I always said there was no excuse for it. Raimi convinced me a guy with one hand could build a mechanical hand in the dark ages through a montage. He could convince me a teenager can design webshooters!

[MajorViolence]

I felt it did impact the final product in that Peter lost a lot of his genius intellect. Toby's Peter, due to script, didn't seem like the inventor genius the character is supposed to be.

And I always said there was no excuse for it. Raimi convinced me a guy with one hand could build a mechanical hand in the dark ages through a montage. He could convince me a teenager can design webshooters!

The way I look at it, Raimi had enough on his plate convincing people a guy could climb walls, have super strength and reflexes, and have a completely fictional spider sense. It's easy to see why the idea of Peter also inventing an adhesive that would instantly make him rich would be in danger of pushing things beyond what audiences were willing to accept at that time. Especially when the alternative is to just make it one of the powers he got from the spider bite. I'm not saying it was better or anything, I just can easily see the motives for going the organic route, and I got over it quickly.

[Sumac]

and TWO ppl bitten by a radioactive spider???
Guess, what was revealed in a recent Amazing Spider-Man issue? :lol:

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Guess, what was revelaed in a recent Amazing Spider-Man issue? :lol:

I really hate any addition or "this is what really happened" stories that muck with long standing stories/origins.

The character and the storyline might be awesome, but tying it back to the original occurrence is just bleh. BLEH BLEH BLEH!

[graphic_content]

Guess, what was revelaed in a recent Amazing Spider-Man issue? :lol:

wow, i dont even read the spiderman comics, and that makes me sad.

And gues who was rumoreded to play Doctor Spiderpuss,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_2003.jpg

if you're being serious, that ruins Cameron for me as a director - Ah-nold, is not an actor any serious filmmaker should be working with. ever.

Believe me, he actually only scratched the surface of that script's problems, too. It was an absolute thing of beauty.

that video made me laugh so hard, i scared the guys in the cubicle next to me.

Batman Begins code named was "Intimidation Game"
The Dark Knight code named was "Rory's First Kiss"

While filming here in Chicago. Blue Door is just a code for the script they said they trashed. I'm sure elements carried over, but not verbatim.

I was visiting family in New York when they were filming the Turtles, the first time, before reshoots - oddly enough, when I was there, they were filming out in the Jones Beach, a popular beach in Long Island, NY. the code name was 4SQUARED. the only thing i couldnt understand, is why the beach? the city i get, but the beach?

[electric_sheep]

wow, i dont even read the spiderman comics, and that makes me sad.



if you're being serious, that ruins Cameron for me as a director - Ah-nold, is not an actor any serious filmmaker should be working with. ever.



that video made me laugh so hard, i scared the guys in the cubicle next to me.



I was visiting family in New York when they were filming the Turtles, the first time, before reshoots - oddly enough, when I was there, they were filming out in the Jones Beach, a popular beach in Long Island, NY. the code name was 4SQUARED. the only thing i couldnt understand, is why the beach? the city i get, but the beach?

Boom! respect meter depleted. GAME OVER!
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[tmntmikey23]

And gues who was rumoreded to play Doctor Spiderpuss,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Arnold_Schwarzenegger_2003.jpg

talking about my grammar look at yours. and this has nothing to do with tmnt book pictures you always get off topic why -_-

[electric_sheep]

talking about my grammar look at yours. and this has nothing to do with tmnt book pictures you always get off topic why -_-

i hate you so much...

[tmntmikey23]

i hate you so much...

pay backs a dirty peace of fudge

[graphic_content]

Boom! respect meter depleted. GAME OVER!
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i agree with his point, its easy to be smug in hindsight - good of him to admit that, rather than try to distance himself from the work. whats done is done.

lets face it, good actor or not, he makes more for this garbage movies, than most of us do for a good day at work.

[Sumac]

revelaed
I hate, when this happens. :roll:

According to the new series, spider has bitten some girl, besides Parker.

if you're being serious, that ruins Cameron for me as a director - Ah-nold, is not an actor any serious filmmaker should be working with. ever.
I hope you're joking.
How about Terminator 1 and 2, True Lies? Are those bad movies?

[graphic_content]

I hope you're joking.
How about Terminator 1 and 2, True Lies? Are those bad movies?

okay, okay...those were good movies. and True Lies was pretty badass - but c'mon, he isnt exactly winning Oscar's for those performances.

[MastahShredder]

http://i.imgur.com/wM6OuLE.jpg

Clearer shot.

[Sumac]

okay, okay...those were good movies. and True Lies was pretty badass - but c'mon, he isnt exactly winning Oscar's for those performances.
I am agree with this.
But your statement that "Ah-nold, is not an actor any serious filmmaker should be working with. ever." is ridicolous though and thorough. So, Cameron, who made the highest grossing films ever and made such iconic movies as Terminator 1, 2, Aliens, is not a serious filmmaker? :roll:

[Shark_Blade]

Leonardo di Caprio's a great actor but he didn't get any Oscar so far. Those award recognition are not the all-be benchmarking mechanism anyway.

[graphic_content]

I am agree with this.
But your statement that "Ah-nold, is not an actor any serious filmmaker should be working with. ever." is ridicolous though and thorough. So, Cameron, who made the highest grossing films ever and made such iconic movies as Terminator 1, 2, Aliens, is not a serious filmmaker? :roll:

I was speaking in sarcastic generalities...of course Cameron is masterful film maker...but my crack about Arnold stands...is he fun to watch, sure, but that's where it stops.

Leonardo di Caprio's a great actor but he didn't get any Oscar so far. Those award recognition are not the all-be benchmarking mechanism anyway.

Very true, but Leo is universally heralded for his ability to act...And ppl are shocked he has yet to take home an Oscar...has anyone ever said, damn, why wasn't Arnold even nominated?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Say what you will about Arnold's acting, but his career is damn inspirational. Came to America with nothing, never listened to the people that said he couldn't do things and became a body building champion, then didn't listen to the people who told him "you can't" to become an actor.

[graphic_content]

Say what you will about Arnold's acting, but his career is damn inspirational. Came to America with nothing, never listened to the people that said he couldn't do things and became a body building champion, then didn't listen to the people who told him "you can't" to become an actor.

And then ultimately governor entrusted with the care of hundreds of thousands. I dont know if political rise is a testimony to hard work...or a scathing indictment of society's obsession with celebrity-dom.

Or maybe, just maybe...the movie Demolition Man is strangely prophetic. Lol.

[electric_sheep]

And then ultimately governor entrusted with the care of hundreds of thousands. I dont know if political rise is a testimony to hard work...or a scathing indictment of society's obsession with celebrity-dom.

Or maybe, just maybe...the movie Demolition Man is strangely prophetic. Lol.

Mmm, that sounds like a story of another German man who become wildly famouse and rose to the hight of political power...

[graphic_content]

Mmm, that sounds like a story of another German man who become wildly famouse and rose to the hight of political power...

I dont understand you sometimes bro...but then again, maybe im not meant to. Lol

[electric_sheep]

I dont understand you sometimes bro...but then again, maybe im not meant to. Lol

I was talking about Albert Einstein :trolleye:
Maybe nothing is meant to...
Interesting article that i read the other day about LOL, it's a conspiracy by satanist into tricking people into worshiping the devil it's slupost to mean "Lucifer our lord". And yeah, i know that isn't true...

[marcelangelo]

I was speaking in sarcastic generalities...of course Cameron is masterful film maker...but my crack about Arnold stands...is he fun to watch, sure, but that's where it stops.



Very true, but Leo is universally heralded for his ability to act...And ppl are shocked he has yet to take home an Oscar...has anyone ever said, damn, why wasn't Arnold even nominated?

of course, people tend to forget to separate the career choices and behaviour of actors and their intellect.
do you really think arnold is that stupid?think about what he has achieved in his life time and think again...

[Xav]

Why I think he was pretty stupid to choose his maid.

[UGHShellshocked]

Why I think he was pretty stupid to choose his maid.

Because its his preference, he likes ugly women.

[MajorViolence]

Wow, it's hard to believe that TMNT visual history book has a section in it about Arnold banging his maid!

I keed, I keed!

[Radical Raph]

I am agree with this.
But your statement that "Ah-nold, is not an actor any serious filmmaker should be working with. ever." is ridicolous though and thorough. So, Cameron, who made the highest grossing films ever and made such iconic movies as Terminator 1, 2, Aliens, is not a serious filmmaker? :roll:
And Cameron was smart enough to cast Arnold as an emotionless robot.