Jason Biggs recast as Leonardo. Seth Green to replace him

[CyberCubed]

So for those who watched the Pizzaface episode knows that Leonardo has been recasted for the episode. What we don't know if this is only a one-episode thing or if this is a permanent replacement.

The original cartoon series sometimes replaced Donatello or Shredder for an episode with a different VA when their actors were too busy in real life. But I can't think of any modern cartoon that replaces a VA just for one episode, its usually a permanent replacement.

Keep in mind voice work for shows are usually recorded months in advance. Today's episode was probably recorded back in January. So this could have been a long time coming as a reaction to Jason Biggs controversial comments months ago, (as the episodes he already recorded would have been done while that was going on). Discuss.

[rickwj324]

So for those who watched the Pizzaface episode knows that Leonardo has been recasted for the episode. What we don't know if this is only a one-episode thing or if this is a permanent replacement.

The original cartoon series sometimes replaced Donatello or Shredder for an episode with a different VA when their actors were too busy in real life. But I can't think of any modern cartoon that replaces a VA just for one episode, its usually a permanent replacement.

Keep in mind voice work for shows are usually recorded months in advance. Today's episode was probably recorded back in January. So this could have been a long time coming as a reaction to Jason Biggs controversial comments months ago, (as the episodes he already recorded would have been done while that was going on). Discuss.

What "controversial comments" did JB make? I hadn't heard anything about that.

I haven't seen this episode yet. How did the substitute actor sound?

[kelligrafie]

As I said on tumblr, maybe they recorded that episode during his wife's pregnancy and he had to be there for an appointment.

It was one of the episodes they showed a clip of at a comic con, as was the Manhattan clip of Splinter of Shredder. Which I find odd, seeing as both episodes have screened mid season, you'd have thought they would've shown an earlier episode for a preview. I don't know if that indicates when they did actual voice recording though.

I don't think Dominic Catrambone (the 'new' guy) sounded that bad. He did one of the games too, which featured pretty much everyone else from the current cast.

[snake]

What "controversial comments" did JB make? I hadn't heard anything about that.

I haven't seen this episode yet. How did the substitute actor sound?

He said some crap online, and we spectualated that he was fired. I didn't think that happend but maybe it did. It is possible that he couldn't show up for the recording session and they just had a fill-in.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

What "controversial comments" did JB make? I hadn't heard anything about that.

I haven't seen this episode yet. How did the substitute actor sound?
It was back in 2012 I believe. So awhile ago.

And, personally, I thought his overall performance was pretty good. It just sounded like Jason Biggs had a cold or something, just a little off to me.

[kelligrafie]

He said some crap online, and we spectualated that he was fired. I didn't think that happend but maybe it did. It is possible that he couldn't show up for the recording session and they just had a fill-in.

I think as well there were some photos circulating of the cast recording in the studio and Jason wasn't in any of them. That's happened a couple of times. Put the wind up a few fangirls.

[snake]

I think as well there were some photos circulating of the cast recording in the studio and Jason wasn't in any of them. That's happened a couple of times. Put the wind up a few fangirls.

Pretty sure that was over instagram when Cipes put a video up of the studio.


I can't remember it happening more then once though.

[CyberCubed]

Funny how Leo only had like 5 lines in the Pizzaface episode. Good thing he wasn't recasted in an ep he had a major role in.

[plastroncafe]

I'll be really disappointed if they recast Biggs due to the whole twitter incident. That shouldn't be something that's held over his head because of an oversight on the Nick Promotional team. Anyone with two brain-cells to rub together knew that Biggs' personal Twitter Feed wasn't meant for children, and it was really crap planning on Nick's part to link to it.

Having said that, Biggs often "phoned in" his recording sessions, as he lives in New York and Nick Studios is in California. That they've actually used someone else's voice is far more damning than him not being in studio pictures.

If it's true that he has been fully recast, that'll be one more nail in the coffin for this show for me.

[CyberCubed]

If it's true that he has been fully recast, that'll be one more nail in the coffin for this show for me.

And what were the other nails in the coffin?

[blue_angel99]

Jason's a busy guy with his acting but he's also controversial. He just did a video which was produced by PETA, begins with Biggs cheerfully saying, “When I have kids I can’t wait to take them to SeaWorld,” followed by him muttering, “maybe they’ll get lucky and see one of the trainers get their legs ripped off.”

[snake]

Jason's a busy and controversial guy besides his acting. He just did a video which was produced by PETA, begins with Biggs cheerfully saying, “When I have kids I can’t wait to take them to SeaWorld,” followed by him muttering, “maybe they’ll get lucky and see one of the trainers get their legs ripped off.”

I-Is he a PETA supporter :teek:

[DarkLightDragon]

Or he just did it for a paycheck.

[blue_angel99]

I-Is he a PETA supporter :teek:

Not sure, but he is definitely not a fan of SeaWorld. He gets pretty explicit and says about SeaWorld:

“Nothing gets me in the mood more than watching a giant, over-m### whale swim around in a tiny bathtub.”

[snake]

Not sure, but he is definitely not a fan of SeaWorld. He gets pretty explicit and says about SeaWorld:

“Nothing gets me in the mood more than watching a giant, over-masturbated whale swim around in a tiny bathtub.”

He probably said it for money. I'm sure PETA tosses around a lot of money just to get anyone to support them.

[TigerClaw]

Also note that you never see Jason Biggs with the rest of the cast, when there at a Con like Comic Con and such.

Is he really that busy that, he can't find a time to join the rest of his cast mates for an appearance at a comic book convention?

[fridaynightdestination]

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[plastroncafe]

And what were the other nails in the coffin?

Your mileage may vary, but I'm not really happy with the direction the show has taken this season. I find the episodes to be inconsistent both story-wise and in terms of characterization. Established characters are left underutilized and undeveloped in favor of introducing new ones. Which I'm sure is great for toy sales, but doesn't make for compelling entertainment.

This cartoon was so solid, and now it's less so.
It's disheartening.

Also note that you never see Jason Biggs with the rest of the cast, when there at a Con like Comic Con and such.

Is he really that busy that, he can't find a time to join the rest of his cast mates for an appearance at a comic book convention?

This isn't entirely true. Sure he doesn't go to as many cons, but he's appeared at the last to SDCCs for signings and panels.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the video he shot dissing SeaWorld.

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[blue_angel99]

He probably said it for money. I'm sure PETA tosses around a lot of money just to get anyone to support them.

His hatred of SeaWorld seems pretty sincere.

[plastroncafe]

In his defense, Sea World is pretty effing horrifying.
Animals as intelligent as Orca really shouldn't be enclosed and on display like that.

But that's neither here nor there.

[blue_angel99]

So will his Seaworld rant cost him his role as Leo?

I won't lose any sleep.

[JTH]

I saw the credits for the new episode and Dominic's role is in the secondary list of characters and isn't listed alongside Rob, Greg, and Sean.

Needless to say personally if it was official, they would have put his name with the rest of the main voice actors to give him recognition. They didn't list him as a main actor, so I'm going to believe that he's still not and this was a one off thing.

Being this episode was SO filler, I wouldn't say Biggs was held with a gun to his head and made to show up.

[CyberCubed]

Your mileage may vary, but I'm not really happy with the direction the show has taken this season. I find the episodes to be inconsistent both story-wise and in terms of characterization. Established characters are left underutilized and undeveloped in favor of introducing new ones. Which I'm sure is great for toy sales, but doesn't make for compelling entertainment.

This cartoon was so solid, and now it's less so.
It's disheartening
This isn't entirely true. Sure he doesn't go to as many cons, but he's appeared at the last to SDCCs for signings and panels.

The only underused characters are the mutants of the week and they're underused for a reason. The entire main cast and major villains got plenty of focus.

[BabyTurtles]

I didn't even notice the change.

[CyberCubed]

I didn't even notice the change.

Honestly if no one said anything I might not have noticed either. Only one of his lines sounded off.

[plastroncafe]

The only underused characters are the mutants of the week and they're underused for a reason. The entire main cast and major villains got plenty of focus.

Congratulations, your mileage varies.

[CyberCubed]

Congratulations, your mileage varies.

It's not mileage, it's the fact that characters are developed on the same as season 1 was, it's just now the characters aren't new anymore and we're used to the quirks and antics of the characters whereas in season 1 we were seeing it for the first time.

I also fully expect the Karai/Miwa plot to be resolved at the seasons end as well as the Kraang to retreat to Dimension X.

[plastroncafe]

It's not mileage, it's the fact that characters are developed on the same as season 1 was, it's just now the characters aren't new anymore and we're used to the quirks and antics of the characters whereas in season 1 we were seeing it for the first time..

That's not a fact, it's your opinion. Hence the "your mileage may vary" remark.
In short: I disagree with you.

If you like this season, congratulations! You like a thing!
This season isn't living up to my expectations. That doesn't make my opinion wrong.

[CyberCubed]

I bet it's entirely due to the way April is handled. Isn't it?

[plastroncafe]

Because you clearly didn't read it the first time:

...I'm not really happy with the direction the show has taken this season. I find the episodes to be inconsistent both story-wise and in terms of characterization. Established characters are left underutilized and undeveloped in favor of introducing new ones. Which I'm sure is great for toy sales, but doesn't make for compelling entertainment.

This cartoon was so solid, and now it's less so.
It's disheartening.

[CyberCubed]

So according to some new tweets it seems Leonardo might be replaced permanently.

I wonder why they decided to fire Jason Biggs?

[TurtleTitan97]

Major bummer. I actually thought he was a pretty great Leonardo. Oh well.:(

[BabyTurtles]

Major bummer. I actually thought he was a pretty great Leonardo. Oh well.:(

I liked him as Leo too......sucks...but at least the new voice actor doesn't sound too different.

[TurtleTitan97]

I liked him as Leo too......sucks...but at least the new voice actor doesn't sound too different.

That's true. I actually didn't notice it while watching Pizza Face.

[plastroncafe]

Credit where credit is due, the replacement is quite good.

Any sources for this Twitter kerfluffle? Because I'm not seeing it.

[JH24]

I liked him as Leo too......sucks...but at least the new voice actor doesn't sound too different.

Yeah, I loved Jason as Leo, he did a great job with Leo's character and how he combined his role as a leader with his more goofy/playful side, he had a great vocal range as well, being able to portray his character in different ways.

But I'm certainly glad Dominic is doing a good job from what we've heard.

He definitely has Jason's way of speaking right, some lines were a little too soft but when he gets more into his role it should be fine. His voice is a little bit rougher (for lack of a better word) but I'm sure we can get used to it.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Hmm, I thought he was replaced because he was busy. Dominic posted on Twitter yesterday, and I have the feeling he may be a temp.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Your mileage may vary, but I'm not really happy with the direction the show has taken this season. I find the episodes to be inconsistent both story-wise and in terms of characterization. Established characters are left underutilized and undeveloped in favor of introducing new ones. Which I'm sure is great for toy sales, but doesn't make for compelling entertainment. .


You know as much as I love this show I do have to agree with this, it is a little disappointing how they handle they main, most engaging storylines and characters. I hate how they use Mikey and how they flip flop between filler episode, karai episode, kraang episode, filler, filler, kraang, etc...

Although my mileage varies in that in doesn't lower my love of the show any, just makes me a tad disappointed. I think perhaps some of us are still used to the structure of the 2k3 show, which is what I would prefer.

[NinjaPug]

So according to some new tweets it seems Leonardo might be replaced permanently.

I wonder why they decided to fire Jason Biggs?

Tweets from who?

[Coola Yagami]

You know as much as I love this show I do have to agree with this, it is a little disappointing how they handle they main, most engaging storylines and characters. I hate how they use Mikey and how they flip flop between filler episode, karai episode, kraang episode, filler, filler, kraang, etc...

Although my mileage varies in that in doesn't lower my love of the show any, just makes me a tad disappointed. I think perhaps some of us are still used to the structure of the 2k3 show, which is what I would prefer.

Now that you think about it... 2K3 was a bit better structured. Every time they faced Shredder they thought they put him down for good... so there was no reason to think that story was still on-going. And that left it open for filler episodes or other villains until the Shredder returned.

I'm sure if there was a season about raining Mutagen they would have done a better job of sticking to it than ignoring it for a few eps and getting back to it whenever.

[JTH]

This is one of those times I kinda wish Ciro was still around here to fill us in on something like this.

[drgon78]

Hopefully he wasn't replaced and it was because he was too busy to do this episode.

[NoName999]

Not sure, but he is definitely not a fan of SeaWorld. He gets pretty explicit and says about SeaWorld:

“Nothing gets me in the mood more than watching a giant, over-m### whale swim around in a tiny bathtub.”

It's SeaWorld. If anything, he deserves a raise for saying that.

[JTH]

It's SeaWorld. If anything, he deserves a raise for saying that.
But unfortunately, Nickelodeon has had a working relationship with SeaWorld in past and possibly still today. So I can't think they took too kindly to word against a former/current company partner.

[Rooish]

Jason Biggs has made some bad career moves! But maybe TMNT voice acting is not his priority. And I love him sticking it to SeaWorld.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Credit where credit is due, the replacement is quite good.

Any sources for this Twitter kerfluffle? Because I'm not seeing it.

The only thing I can find on twitter about this situation is pure speculation with people asking questions. No facts as far as I can see.

[plastroncafe]

The only thing I can find on twitter about this situation is pure speculation with people asking questions. No facts as far as I can see.

Yeah, I couldn't find anything either.
CyberCubed, Obiwanfan4life? Screen caps?

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Here's the video he shot dissing SeaWorld.

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I gotta admit, that was pretty good.

[kelligrafie]

IF Nickelodeon fired Jason, judging by his every day tweets, I get the feeling he's the type of guy that might slag them off something rotten. He's certainly not afraid to offend.

"Cowabunga to you too you ******s." Or something along those lines.

[Refractive Reflections]

I guess the only way we will know, without hearing anything from Nickelodeon or any of the production staff, is to simply watch the credits on the subsequent episodes and see how often Jason Biggs is replaced. For all we know, he, his wife, or his new child could be having some medical illness which could explain the temporary replacement. If this replacement becomes a permanent thing in the future, then I'm sure it will be adding more suspicions about the abrupt change.

With most companies who are involved in the public spotlight, especially involved with children, like Nickelodeon, Disney, Mattel, etc. one controversial public remark/comment about sex, politics, religion, or a tirade of profanity, can be easily used as grounds for dismissal when they hire people. The last thing these companies want are bad PR when their business is associated with children when they are supposed to keep their brands "safe and innocent" even though the blame can be placed on both sides (Nickelodeon and Biggs).

But at least from my opinion, the twitter remarks Biggs made didn't seem to make that much attention (not on any entertainment news television programs) and the SeaWorld remarks are timed when there's already a sizable tide of resentment against it (with so many celebrities against SeaWorld). If Nickelodeon is affiliated somehow with SeaWorld, Nickelodeon could be silently distancing themselves from SeaWorld to avoid bad press, but Biggs' remarks certainly aren't welcomed in putting more attention to this delicate situation between the two companies.

[J_Snake_Lorenzo]

I would rather see that annoying Cipes guy replaced.
Or even just cut Michelangelo's lines down to maybe 3 or 4 lines an episode.

The only thing I really hate about this show is how retarded Michelangelo is.
And how annoying and emo'ish his voice is.

Man, I hate that Cipes guy.

[CyberCubed]

I would rather see that annoying Cipes guy replaced.
Or even just cut Michelangelo's lines down to maybe 3 or 4 lines an episode.

The only thing I really hate about this show is how retarded Michelangelo is.
And how annoying and emo'ish his voice is.

Man, I hate that Cipes guy.

Lol what? Greg Cripes voice for Mikey is amazing and brings his character to life.

Someone posted the tweets in the review thread but no link.

[Coola Yagami]

This is one of those times I kinda wish Ciro was still around here to fill us in on something like this.

yeah, kind of a shame some of the idiots around here chased him off, isn't it?

[BubblyShell22]

Well, to be fair, Jason was also working on his show "Orange is the New Black" so that could have been the reason he had a replacement as well as the fact that his wife was still pregnant and probably needed to be taken to appointments. She had the baby in February of this year, so we don't really know exactly when that ep was being recorded. I feel Dominic did a decent job and sounded pretty close to Biggs in his voice, just a little off. I have a feeling it'll be a temporary thing as there were rumors before that Biggs was fired, and I remember someone asking Ciro about that on FB and not getting a response, so we all figured it was a rumor.

Honestly, I'm not going to worry about it. Yes, it's a bummer if he's being replaced, but maybe his schedule is too hectic for him to continue voicing Leo, and they can't afford to have a VA who can't make the recording sessions unless he records via phone, which he can do. So, we'll just have to wait and see how things go from here.

[electric_sheep]

Jason sounds like a nerd which this Leo is supposed to be the new guy sounds similar but he also sounds like a guy just like a regular guy, he doesen't have the raspy voice that Jason has...

[fridaynightdestination]

I would rather see that annoying Cipes guy replaced.
Or even just cut Michelangelo's lines down to maybe 3 or 4 lines an episode.

The only thing I really hate about this show is how retarded Michelangelo is.
And how annoying and emo'ish his voice is.

Man, I hate that Cipes guy.

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[CyberCubed]

I notice that other sites aren't even commenting on Leonardo's voice change, I don't think any other place even noticed it other than our forum. IGN didn't mention it and neither is anyone on Toonzone.

They picked a pretty good sound-a-like.

[Roseangelo]

I've actually had suspicions for the last year that Biggs had been dropped from the show. I asked Ciro at the time and he denied it, but there's been continual evidence pointing to that being the case.

[xChri5x]

For the record, SeaWorld is terrible
https://www.thedodo.com/recently-spotted-103-year-old--547381307.html?xrs=RebelMouse_fb?k

[oldmanwinters]

I didn't even notice the voice change in the Pizza Face episode.

Biggs has done a good job giving voice to Leo in this show. But, I'm also very cool with replacing him if that's how things are gonna be.

[CyberCubed]

I've actually had suspicions for the last year that Biggs had been dropped from the show. I asked Ciro at the time and he denied it, but there's been continual evidence pointing to that being the case.

If that's the case why did they keep him for half of Season 2? I would have expected him to be dropped after Season 1 ended and the new VA to start from Season 2's debut episode.

While they obviously record voicework months in advance, certainly by the time they started Season 2 they would have known if they were keeping him or not.

[Roseangelo]

If that's the case why did they keep him for half of Season 2? I would have expected him to be dropped after Season 1 ended and the new VA to start from Season 2's debut episode.

While they obviously record voicework months in advance, certainly by the time they started Season 2 they would have known if they were keeping him or not.

They started recording season 2 well over a year ago. All of your assumptions are wrong.

[Electric]

Haven't watched the pizza face episode yet, so I haven't heard the other Leo voice.

I'm kind of conflicted on how I would feel if he was recast. I love the voice he has for Leo, and think it adds a lot to the character. But, if Leo's voice is going to keep being inconsistent I'd almost rather just have him replaced now, so we get used to a new voice. :ohwell:

[Casey]

He probably said it for money. I'm sure PETA tosses around a lot of money just to get anyone to support them.

How are you sure? I'm pretty sure they specially don't. They're a non-profit.

[Electric]

Sorry for double posting, but just saw the new episode.

Do not like this Leo voice. To me it's too deep, and stays monotone in every line.

I still hope that the show gives us a constant Leo voice, whether it's jason on not, but if it isn't, I really hope it's not this guy :ohwell:

[CyberCubed]

This guy already voiced him in the Nick videogame prior to this.

[CowabungaMikey]

I love Biggs' Twitter Biography: If your kids are on my page, they shouldn't be. Also, you're a ****** parent.

YEAH LEONARDO

[Shark_Blade]

I don't even notice any voice change for Leo, ever. So..

If they have a new VA, they'd have announced it by now. So I'm sure it's still Biggs.

[Jester]

Probably just a Hal Rayle...it's cool.

[Luke795]

Did the 2003 TMNT cartoon have any alternate voice actors?

[Jester]

Hun and Leatherhead did I think...

[blue_angel99]

Is Cam Clarke available? :trazz:

[Kendamu]

Didn't even notice the change today.

[electric_sheep]

Didn't even notice the change today.

They sound very similar, Bigs has more raspy and nerdy voice but you could get use to the new guy...

[LH]

Hun and Leatherhead did I think...

Fred Owens, Greg Carey, and Gary Lewis all voiced LH from what I gather...

[BubblyShell22]

Hun had a voice change in the Lost Season and I think he did in season 4 as well. It didn't sound the same to me.

I did notice the voice change, but thought it sounded pretty similar to Biggs. I don't think he's been fired at all and may have just had to have a temporary fill in. If you remember, this guy also filled in for him a few other times this season such as in "Follow the Leader" and "The Manhattan Project."

[Powder]

https://twitter.com/domcatrambone

In one tweet he says "Keep watching season 2 through the summer and there just might be more where that came from!" which is kinda vague, seems to imply that he fills in on other episodes.

Someone elses tweet that he re-tweeted reads "Having coffee with the new voice of #Leonardo on #tmnt #nickelodeon!" which more or less would confirm that he's a replacement wholesale.

Not sure what the deal is...

At any rate, I definitely noticed the change. This guy sounds pretty good from what little we heard in the Pizza Face episode, but I'm definitely not happy we're having a cast change, period. Leo's my favorite turtle, so to see his situation switched up is extra bothersome. But I will say he's the best sounding replacement I've ever heard for a turtle, his impression of Biggs' Leo is great. I'm open to giving him a chance. Kinda have to be... but still, could be much worse. Either way, it really sucks if they gave Biggs the boot over his twitter. They knew what they were getting into hiring him, and he has a right to be himself so long as it doesn't hurt anybody. Kids don't belong on Twitter, and parents should be held accountable if their child gains access to inappropriate content.

[CyberCubed]

If you guys want to hear more of the new Leo voice watch clips from the Nick game on Wii/DS where he also played Leo. His voice in the game sounds very similar to Jason Biggs.

[Colonel Schrader]

never mind, checked last page vid already shared

[CyberCubed]

You know I always felt like Jason Biggs wasn't going to stick around for the entire run of the show, but I always figured he'd be around for at least half of it. But if they're getting rid of him in the middle of Season 2, then the new Leo voice will be there for the majority of the shows run.

I expect the Nick show to last at least 5-7 seasons, so its a shame if Jason Biggs really is fired at the beginning of the series.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I would rather see that annoying Cipes guy replaced.
Or even just cut Michelangelo's lines down to maybe 3 or 4 lines an episode.

The only thing I really hate about this show is how retarded Michelangelo is.
And how annoying and emo'ish his voice is.

Man, I hate that Cipes guy.

Greg Cipes' voice is 'emoish'?

Ok...

[Electric]

I just really do not like this other Leo voice. I know some people say they can't tell but it's blatant to me. Re watched this episode and barely paid attention to the first half because I was just sitting waiting to hear Leo speak.

This new voice, at times has the same tone of voice as jason, but Jason's has a little more inflection and emotion to it, where this one is just very monotone

[ShreddHedd]

Greg Cipes' voice is 'emoish'?

Ok...

Hahah I had the same reaction. Greg Cipes is faaaaaaar from emo. He's one of the most energetic people I've ever seen.

But man, Jason Biggs. Hope he's not out for good! I loved him as Leo, perfect blend of nerdy and stern.

[fridaynightdestination]

Hahah I had the same reaction. Greg Cipes is faaaaaaar from emo. He's one of the most energetic people I've ever seen.

But man, Jason Biggs. Hope he's not out for good! I loved him as Leo, perfect blend of nerdy and stern.

I agree. Greg Cipes is perfect for Mikey, and so is Jason Biggs for Leo. I hope neither of those two get replaced, ever.

[Lou 500]

He said some crap online, and we spectualated that he was fired. I didn't think that happend but maybe it did. It is possible that he couldn't show up for the recording session and they just had a fill-in.

He sounded like he had a sore throat in the Fungus Humongous episode, too.

[Shark_Blade]

Did anyone check the end credits? If Biggs is replaced (possibly for this episode only?) his name won't be there right?

I can't watch it yet atm.

[rickwj324]

I agree. Greg Cipes is perfect for Mikey, and so is Jason Biggs for Leo. I hope neither of those two get replaced, ever.

They both are great! Mikey's voice is soooo perfect and his character just cracks me up so often. My wife loves him as well and she doesn't watch many cartoons. :D

I'd hate to see JB go, but if he's re-casted with a competent v.a. that I'm ok with it. It does happen a lot in the world of animation.

Rick

[JTH]

Did anyone check the end credits? If Biggs is replaced (possibly for this episode only?) his name won't be there right?

I can't watch it yet atm.

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The thing that I mentioned was if he is the new Leonardo, why didn't they treat him like a primary voice, instead of listing him with all the secondaries?

[CyberCubed]

More importantly why is April listed as, "princess?"

When was this established?

[Candy Kappa]

More importantly why is April listed as, "princess?"

When was this established?

It's Mae Whitman doing voices for April AND Princess

[Jester]

More importantly why is April listed as, "princess?"

When was this established?

Um...the Princess in the anime, Cubed.

[Raph's Girl]

*looks up Dominic Catrambone* Ooh.. he's a cutie....

[Shark_Blade]

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The thing that I mentioned was if he is the new Leonardo, why didn't they treat him like a primary voice, instead of listing him with all the secondaries?

Thanks for te screenshots. Yeah it's odd that he's not up there with the other three main turtles, even if he is a temporary replacement(?).

[Garp]

I honestly didn't even notice the voice change. If it is permanent, the new guy sounds like he'll do fine, at least from the 5 or so lines he had in this episode.

[CyberCubed]

I honestly didn't even notice the voice change. If it is permanent, the new guy sounds like he'll do fine, at least from the 5 or so lines he had in this episode.

Again he voiced Leonardo in the entire Nick game for 3DS and Wii. Leo sounded fine in the game.

[Jeff]

http://www.survivingcollege.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/you-need-to-relax.gif

that's what happens when you hire actors for their names to be on a kids cartoon series.

[pennydreadful]

I wasn't big on Jason Biggs (hehe) being cast as Leo's voice prior to watching the Nick series, but IMO he has done a good job - a really good job, and whatever I may think of him personally, I can't fault his performance.

I'd be surprised if he were recast. The Nick show has a very tight production team behind it who've made more good decisions than bad, so if they did recast Leo's voice, I'm sure the person they chose would be someone who could continue to bring the depth and emotion to Leo's VA that we've come to expect.

[Jephael]

Man, the new guy is like a dead ringer for Biggs! I wasn't even aware it was a different actor until I heard Black Nerd mention it on his review of the "Pizza Face" episode.

[MCLeo28]

I honestly couldn't tell the voice change too much, but it is still very minimal once I watched it again. He sounds like he'll do fine so far IMO, but I do hope Jason Biggs doesn't get fired, because he is better.

[Electric]

I know at this point I'm just harping on it but this other voice has no emotion to it. Jason's goes higher and lower and has a younger feel to it, while this one, while it sounds like Jason's, just stays monotone in every line.

Really hope Jason's not gone and that he sticks around.

[BabyTurtles]

I know at this point I'm just harping on it but this other voice has no emotion to it. Jason's goes higher and lower and has a younger feel to it, while this one, while it sounds like Jason's, just stays monotone in every line.

Really hope Jason's not gone and that he sticks around.

yea, I went back and watched his parts in Pizza Face and I can see what you mean.

Jason Biggs does seem to have more emotion when he's talking.......(ugh now I hope Jason Biggs isn't leaving)

[Electric]

Went on Dominic catrambones twitter, and everyone's asking if he's permanent. While he hasn't given a straight up answer, he has replied to people complimenting him with "Keep tuning in to season 2 (hint hint)" and "There's more to come"

[Shark_Blade]

I finally get to watch the episode and... I'm impressed, his voice totally sounds 99% almost exactly like normal Leo. I totally forgot Leo's voice was done by a different actor until I see the end credits.

Sure I prefer Biggs but I'm fine if the new guy is a permanent either way. :D

[rickwj324]

I watched the ep last night and honestly if I hadn't read it here first I probably wouldn't have noticed. Knowing about it ahead of time I did catch the difference, but it was hardly noticed. I like Jason and hope he stays on, but switching with this other actor won't be a big deal for me.

[TigerClaw]

According to this post on Tumblr, Jason Biggs is not fired, His wife was Pregnant at the time.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced
Jason Biggs is NOT getting kicked off the show!!! The article about a scandel that happened back in 2012, and was cleared up. Dominic was just filling in for Biggs because Biggs’ wife is pregnant and couldn’t work that day Nick was recording. Biggs is doing Leo for the season 3 of TMNT 2012.

[Zulithe]

random fanblog by 20yo 'Mikichan' (wanna take bets on if they are even Japanese?) with no cited source... very reputable.

May very well be true, as it's already a popular theory, but still... we need something more than some fan ramblings.

And to the people saying they could barely tell it wasn't Biggs... get your ears examined :P

[rickwj324]

And to the people saying they could barely tell it wasn't Biggs... get your ears examined :P

Haha!! :lol:

Yeah, I could definitely notice the difference, but I think it was more noticeable because I had read beforehand that Jason wasn't the voice in it. Had I not read it first, I'm not so sure I would've noticed as easily.

[DarkLightDragon]

According to this post on Tumblr, Jason Biggs is not fired, His wife was Pregnant at the time.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced


That's good for him. Hope his wife and child will be alright.

Knew it had nothing to do with his controversial tweets from a while ago since, like I said before, seems way too late to punish him solely for that.

EDIT: Oh wait, it might not be real. Alrighty then.

[Refractive Reflections]

According to this post on Tumblr, Jason Biggs is not fired, His wife was Pregnant at the time.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

random fanblog by 20yo 'Mikichan' (wanna take bets on if they are even Japanese?) with no cited source... very reputable.

May very well be true, as it's already a popular theory, but still... we need something more than some fan ramblings.

And to the people saying they could barely tell it wasn't Biggs... get your ears examined :P

Exactly Zulithe. I read the tumblr entry, and it's funny that random fanblogger is critical of others using other random unreliable sources about Biggs' future, yet this same fanblogger doesn't even provide anything official himself/herself. :lol:

[Leofan26]

So Leo's old VA isn't getting replaced? Good to know, I like it.

Though, I didn't think this new one was awful, it was alright.

[CowabungaMikey]

I'm talking a little with Dominic Catrambone and he's a really awesome guy. I will think it's sad when Biggs is getting replaced, but I can get over it.

[Candy Kappa]

The typo in the thread title is sooo casuals.


:lol:

[plastroncafe]

The typo in the thread title is sooo casuals.


:lol:

+1
Will laugh again.

[Electric]

I'm talking a little with Dominic Catrambone and he's a really awesome guy. I will think it's sad when Biggs is getting replaced, but I can get over it.

Wait so if you're talking to him, is he replacing Biggs? Or is just whenever Biggs is not availible

[BubblyShell22]

I realize that blog post is unreliable, but I agree that he can't be punished for those tweets since they were so long ago. If they had wanted to fire him, they would have done so after those tweets were linked, but he stayed on. I guess the best thing we can do is wait for the next episode. If it sounds like Dominic, then we know Biggs was replaced. If not, then we know that Biggs wasn't fired. I did notice the slight difference, but it seemed like he was trying to sound like Jason whereas in the other episodes where he spoke a line or two, he sounded like Leo from the video game. So that's my take on it.

And maybe he wasn't directly fired but decided to leave the show due to scheduling conflicts or because he wanted to spend more time with his son. If that's the case, then I'm okay with that even if it is a bummer.

[Bry]

Dominic Catrambone did a great job filling in - I didn't even notice until it was pointed out to me, and even then, it was a very good imitation.

That said, I think Biggs has really brought a lot to the role and given it a certain energy, and it'd be a real shame to lose him. Hopefully this is just down to a little paternity leave.

[raphmike]

i agree, same as soap opera they alway get recast for reason then come back
on show. jason biggs wont be gone for long he will back soon.

congrats jason and his wife :)

[Xav]

Wait so if you're talking to him, is he replacing Biggs? Or is just whenever Biggs is not availibleNone knows. He was asked on Twitter and said.Not at liberty to say but do keep watching
https://twitter.com/domcatrambone/status/468560924488781825

So I have no idea why Nickelodeon is being so secretive about this. Also I find it ironic that this guy is just a fill-in, yet he has TMNT on his Twitter banner and Biggs doesn't.

[CyberCubed]

I don't understand why people expect Nick to say anything. When has a cartoon ever announced that a voice actor of a main character was getting fired and replaced with a new actor?

[Electric]

I don't think we're expecting nick to come out and say anything, I'm just wondering why dominic is "not at liberty to say". If he replaced jason, I don't see why he couldn't say "yep I'm taking over as Leo" or "no, I'm just filling in whenever they need me"

From most of his tweets, it sounds like he's definitely voicing more. But everytime he's said it, he specifically refers to only season 2. Maybe he's finishing out season 2, or just another couple episodes, and then season 3 jason comes back or they get someone else.

[Universal_Adam]

You can probably take this with a grain of salt, but while browsing Dominic's Twitter, someone said something about it is going to take a while to get used to this recast, and he said "I totally get it."

I mean..maybe I'm just looking too much into this, but instead of saying "Don't worry Jason will be back!" or "there's nothing to get used to" He just said "I get it" which TO ME implies that he is kind of acknowledging that there was a recast.
Maybe?

Here's the link.

https://twitter.com/domcatrambone/status/468561125382963200

[Shark_Blade]

I'm happy he's around, be it as temporary or permanent VA. :)

So welcome Dominic!

[Xav]

I don't think we're expecting nick to come out and say anything, I'm just wondering why dominic is "not at liberty to say". If he replaced jason, I don't see why he couldn't say "yep I'm taking over as Leo" or "no, I'm just filling in whenever they need me"
Maybe they don't know if Biggs will return yet? He could be in contract negotiations or something.

[CyberCubed]

Looks like Biggs is done. I'm not expecting him back.

When Season 3 begins why would they go through the trouble of getting Biggs back when they can just continue using this guy?

[Jester]

Looks like Biggs is done. I'm not expecting him back.

When Season 3 begins why would they go through the trouble of getting Biggs back when they can just continue using this guy?
Dude, they are already recording episodes for season 3....with Biggs.

[CyberCubed]

I've never heard of that.

[Xav]

It's from a fan blog on the last page.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

Oh and if Biggs wasn't fired he certainly isn't doing himself any favors. He recently made headlines again by mocking a Bachelorette contestant who died last month.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jason-biggs-mocks-bachelorette-contestants-death-on-twitter-2014205

[Zulithe]

I follow Biggs on twitter and have been reading the recent tweets about the bachelorette...

He really seems to love it when people lash out at him when he makes a crass joke. Revels in it even.

I'm the kind of guy who can appreciate humor others may find offensive. And I mean that seriously, I am a member of more than one minority group and even jokes that are at my expense don't phase me the way I see it bother other people. But I really wonder just how many voice actors that work in children's films/tv are so publicly offensive like Biggs, because he seems to be one of kind in that respect.

[hudemx]

How about the Idea that the "replacement" of Leos VA is just part of a storyline coming up?
Yeah it sounds crazy but by dominics tweet it seems that there could be more about it (he tweets that "we" will see more in season 2)
So maybe the Leo we saw in Pizza Face is not the leo we saw before?

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, hopefully they just got Dom a gig as another character. I'd be real butthurt if Biggs was gone... it's worth noting though that Dom has clearly been standing in for lines here and there all season. I think JB is just busy.

This is like the only version of Leo I really love in all of TMNT, and Biggs really brought him to life. Hopefully we hear him next episode.

[Shark_Blade]

I have a feeling Biggs won't be voicing for the rest of this season, he'll only return next season.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

So to be clear, is he still Leo?

[CyberCubed]

Nobody knows. People say he recorded Season 3 but I see no proof of that.

The Leo replacement actor also keeps tweeting to stay tuned for more and that he understands people have to get used to him in the role.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

oh no, I really hope it's temp, nnothing against the other guy. Jason needs to carry on being Leo!

[CowabungaMikey]

What the hell is Biggs doing?

[plastroncafe]

What he's always done.

[CyberCubed]

Isn't Jason Biggs like 35 years old now with his own son? Why would a fully grown adult with his own kid make such childish comments and blatant hate posts online toward other people?

Jason Biggs is truly a guy who never grew up from adolescence. I love his Leonardo voice but the guy seems to be an eternal 17 year old man child.

[TurtleTitan97]

Isn't Jason Biggs like 35 years old now with his own son? Why would a fully grown adult with his own kid make such childish comments and blatant hate posts online toward other people?

Jason Biggs is truly a guy who never grew up from adolescence. I love his Leonardo voice but the guy seems to be an eternal 17 year old man child.

Says the guy who freaks out over seeing nostrils on the Turtles.

[Xav]

Isn't Jason Biggs like 35 years old now with his own son? Why would a fully grown adult with his own kid make such childish comments and blatant hate posts online toward other people?

Jason Biggs is truly a guy who never grew up from adolescence. I love his Leonardo voice but the guy seems to be an eternal 17 year old man child.He explained in an interview.It's funny because I have a very [messed] up sense of humor -- pretty dark, always have. But people just don't think that of me -- even though I'm known for f---ing a pie. But, still, something about Jim and the other characters that I've played, they just don't expect it from me. And I've never really had an outlet like this where I can kind of surprise people on a daily basis. So, it's kind of a fun thing to do. I get a kick out of it -- I like pushing buttons and having people write back. I especially like it when people write back and are like, "You're an asshole!" Or they get really pissed at me and I'll retweet those people because I think that's funny.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/jason-biggs-american-reunion_n_1396965.html

[raphmike]

It's from a fan blog on the last page.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

Oh and if Biggs wasn't fired he certainly isn't doing himself any favors. He recently made headlines again by mocking a Bachelorette contestant who died last month.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jason-biggs-mocks-bachelorette-contestants-death-on-twitter-2014205

wow jason has no heart really cold evil hope he has soft side like raph have.

[Papenbrook]

It's from a fan blog on the last page.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

Oh and if Biggs wasn't fired he certainly isn't doing himself any favors. He recently made headlines again by mocking a Bachelorette contestant who died last month.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jason-biggs-mocks-bachelorette-contestants-death-on-twitter-2014205

:teek: Why would he do that?!

[TurFlytle]

Says the guy who freaks out over seeing nostrils on the Turtles.

And complains about Bebop not being black.

[Xav]

:teek: Why would he do that?!Like I said before. He said he gets off pushing peoples buttons, and having them write angry things at him.

[pennydreadful]

It's funny because I have a very [messed] up sense of humor -- pretty dark, always have. But people just don't think that of me -- even though I'm known for f---ing a pie. But, still, something about Jim and the other characters that I've played, they just don't expect it from me. And I've never really had an outlet like this where I can kind of surprise people on a daily basis. So, it's kind of a fun thing to do. I get a kick out of it -- I like pushing buttons and having people write back. I especially like it when people write back and are like, "You're an asshole!" Or they get really pissed at me and I'll retweet those people because I think that's funny. [/url]

So basically he just enjoys the negative attention. He's the equivalent of a five year old drawing on the wall in crayon because his mother's on the phone with someone else. :roll:

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

its funny i always felt sean astin would be the one who would get recast

but i guess if biggs is recast for some random comment nickelodeon felt of collar i wouldnt be surprised

[Powder]

So basically he just enjoys the negative attention. He's the equivalent of a five year old drawing on the wall in crayon because his mother's on the phone with someone else. :roll:

There's a distinct difference between wanting attention & enjoying the art of rustling jimmies.

[plastroncafe]

So basically he just enjoys the negative attention. He's the equivalent of a five year old drawing on the wall in crayon because his mother's on the phone with someone else. :roll:

There's a distinct difference between wanting attention & enjoying the art of rustling jimmies.

Not really, just ask any internet troll.

[NoName999]

There's a distinct difference between wanting attention & enjoying the art of rustling jimmies.

And that is...

[Powder]

There's taking satisfaction/finding humor in upsetting the sensibilities of uptight people, and there's doing/saying things only because you want people to focus on you. Intent makes the difference.

[Lou 500]

It's from a fan blog on the last page.
http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

Oh and if Biggs wasn't fired he certainly isn't doing himself any favors. He recently made headlines again by mocking a Bachelorette contestant who died last month.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jason-biggs-mocks-bachelorette-contestants-death-on-twitter-2014205

Goodness me, it's like he wants to get a boot up his arse.

[Universal_Adam]

Why shouldn't Jason Biggs say what he wants on Twittter? He has the right to say and do whatever he wants, and if someone doesn't like it, they simply shouldn't follow him.
Unfortunately we live in a society it seems, in which instead of parents actually monitoring what their children see or do, like responsible parents, it's left up to essentially a complete stranger to "set a good example". I think that is crap.
First of all, Jason's Twitter headline says "Note: If your kids are on my page, they shouldn't be. Also, you're a ****** parent."
That pretty much sums it up. It's not his job to filter himself to please parents, because of his voice acting job. He does a lot of things. He's an actor, and he's a comedian.

Look at Sarah Silverman. She makes jokes about abortion, the holocaust, race, etc. She's constantly controversial. That is HOW she makes her living. And yet she voiced a main character in a DISNEY movie. Even during the release, she still had offensive tweets, and it wasn't a big deal.

I think people REALLY need to lay off of Jason Biggs, and parents need to do their jobs and not let their CHILDREN follow an actor who got his fame by SCREWING A PIE, on Twitter.

[Bry]

Why shouldn't Jason Biggs say what he wants on Twittter? He has the right to say and do whatever he wants, and if someone doesn't like it, they simply shouldn't follow him.
Unfortunately we live in a society it seems, in which instead of parents actually monitoring what their children see or do, like responsible parents, it's left up to essentially a complete stranger to "set a good example". I think that is crap.
First of all, Jason's Twitter headline says "Note: If your kids are on my page, they shouldn't be. Also, you're a ****** parent."
That pretty much sums it up. It's not his job to filter himself to please parents, because of his voice acting job. He does a lot of things. He's an actor, and he's a comedian.

Look at Sarah Silverman. She makes jokes about abortion, the holocaust, race, etc. She's constantly controversial. That is HOW she makes her living. And yet she voiced a main character in a DISNEY movie. Even during the release, she still had offensive tweets, and it wasn't a big deal.

I think people REALLY need to lay off of Jason Biggs, and parents need to do their jobs and not let their CHILDREN follow an actor who got his fame by SCREWING A PIE, on Twitter.

I agree with the gist of this. Biggs absolutely has the freedom to say what he wants to at any time, and he's clearly enjoying that freedom and has no intention to censor himself.

I guess it just comes down to Nickelodeon's policies and the terms of his contract. If Nick has the means/right to terminate his contract based on his online conduct, and they feel it's in their best interests, they will. I honestly hope it wouldn't come to that, but that's out of our hands.

That said, this is all huge speculation at this point. The most likely answer to this situation is that Biggs' schedule (OitNB and the birth of his child) made him unavailable and they had a fill-in cover the gaps in the schedule. I'm gonna assume that's the case unless we hear otherwise.

[snake]

its funny i always felt sean astin would be the one who would get recast

but i guess if biggs is recast for some random comment nickelodeon felt of collar i wouldnt be surprised

Why would you think that Astin would get recast? (Just asking)

[Xav]

I think it's because Sean is the most famous. He would be the one most likely to get another job.

[dkram230]

I think it's because Sean is the most famous. He would be the one most likely to get another job.

I actually always thoughts Jason Biggs was the more famous of the VAs from a pop culture standpoint. Prior to TMNT if you asked me who Jason Biggs was I could probably rattle off 5 or 6 movies where he was a leading role. But I only knew Sean Austin as "that guy who was Frodo's friend in Lord of the Rings." But that could just be me too and the type of entertainment I watch / pay attention to.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Why would you think that Astin would get recast? (Just asking)

I think it's because Sean is the most famous. He would be the one most likely to get another job.

this is part of it...and dont get me wrong i love Sean...but ive noticed and heard stories he hates being typecast or remembered for being only one character

i heard through my cosplay grape vine he once left a table because people kept calling him sam

[pennydreadful]

There's taking satisfaction/finding humor in upsetting the sensibilities of uptight people, and there's doing/saying things only because you want people to focus on you. Intent makes the difference.

Eh, ignore that last comment of mine Powder - I was in a really sh*tty mood yesterday.

[Electric]

My theory is that Jason took some time off after his wife's pregnancy, and that he'll be back for season 3. The only reason I say this is dominic posted multiple times on twitter telling us to keep watching season 2. He's made it pretty obvious he's doing some more of voicing, though he hasn't clarified how much.

[BubblyShell22]

I agree, and I think during the recording of season 2 that was when Jason got picked to do "Orange is the New Black" so he had to devote himself to that and also because of his wife's pregnancy. Dom has only said to keep watching season 2, so I have a feeling he will be voicing Leo some more in season 2, which is fine with me. As for season 3, Jason will probably voice Leo and Dom may fill in for the times Jason can't be there due to the next season of OITNB since they got picked up for a second season. That's the way I look at it.

As for his tweets, I don't follow him, but I disagree that when you're representing a company, you can't just say and do what you want all of the time. Then again, it depends on what company you work for, but I have heard of people getting fired for ranting about their bosses on Facebook so there you go. Maybe Nick is the type of company who doesn't care about such things as long as you don't bash the company itself, and if that's the case, then fine. That's the way I look at it.

[Ninjawolf]

I agree, and I think during the recording of season 2 that was when Jason got picked to do "Orange is the New Black" so he had to devote himself to that and also because of his wife's pregnancy. Dom has only said to keep watching season 2, so I have a feeling he will be voicing Leo some more in season 2, which is fine with me. As for season 3, Jason will probably voice Leo and Dom may fill in for the times Jason can't be there due to the next season of OITNB since they got picked up for a second season. That's the way I look at it.

As for his tweets, I don't follow him, but I disagree that when you're representing a company, you can't just say and do what you want all of the time. Then again, it depends on what company you work for, but I have heard of people tting fired for ranting about their bosses on Facebook so there you go. Maybe Nick is the type of company who doesn't care about such things as long as you don't bash the company itself, and if that's the case, then fine. That's the way I look at it.

Nick knew what they were in for when they hired Jason though... it's not like he wasn't making similar tweets before he was hired. They shouldn't expect him to change his tests. Besides he's a Voice Actor I'm nit sure if they really'represent' the company.

I hope Dom's just filling in, Jason was busy with his wife and OitNB and stuff. I say he'll be back for S3... not that Dom's bad I just prefer Jason he'sa stellar Leo though the entire cast is excellent and I like Cipes as Mikey...

[plastroncafe]

I hope Dom's just filling in, Jason was busy with his wife and OitNB and stuff. I say he'll be back for S3... not that Dom's bad I just prefer Jason he'sa stellar Leo though the entire cast is excellent and I like Cipes as Mikey...

Agreed.
I'm really impressed with Dom's work, but I'm still kind of in shock at how much I like Biggs in that role.

[Ninjawolf]

Agreed.
I'm really impressed with Dom's work, but I'm still kind of in shock at how much I like Biggs in that role.

He's an ass (or at least his persona is... I doubt he's as vulgar at home) but he IS a truly talented VA really... he's done a great job voicing Leo and frankly that's all I care about. He works for Nick but he's most famous for screwing a pie...

But I say Don's mostly filling in a few episodes we'll see if Biggs is back for tRoTC. I honestly didn't notice but it feels wrong to have someone else voice Leo... did anyone ask Biggs if he was fired?

[Metalwolf]

Why shouldn't Jason Biggs say what he wants on Twittter? He has the right to say and do whatever he wants, and if someone doesn't like it, they simply shouldn't follow him.
Unfortunately we live in a society it seems, in which instead of parents actually monitoring what their children see or do, like responsible parents, it's left up to essentially a complete stranger to "set a good example". I think that is crap.
First of all, Jason's Twitter headline says "Note: If your kids are on my page, they shouldn't be. Also, you're a ****** parent."
That pretty much sums it up. It's not his job to filter himself to please parents, because of his voice acting job. He does a lot of things. He's an actor, and he's a comedian.

Look at Sarah Silverman. She makes jokes about abortion, the holocaust, race, etc. She's constantly controversial. That is HOW she makes her living. And yet she voiced a main character in a DISNEY movie. Even during the release, she still had offensive tweets, and it wasn't a big deal.

I think people REALLY need to lay off of Jason Biggs, and parents need to do their jobs and not let their CHILDREN follow an actor who got his fame by SCREWING A PIE, on Twitter.Eh, Biggs is one of those types that can dish out offensive stuff, but I highly doubt he's the kind that can take it.

I'll put it in a way like this: He can make fun about somebody else's kid dying (which technically the dead woman was) but I bet you call him a breeder and a contributor to overpopulation (technically true, as there is now 7+ billion on this planet) and watch how fast he gets his panties in a bunch.

Personally, I'd rather have Dominic voice Leonardo from now on. I can't stand douchebags who think they're all that, and Biggs is certainly climbing high up on that list. Dominic might not have an 'emotional' voice like Biggs, but if he get a lot more practice with being Leonardo, he might end up overcoming that.

[plastroncafe]

You should do that, and get back to us with the reaction.

[Refractive Reflections]

Why shouldn't Jason Biggs say what he wants on Twittter? He has the right to say and do whatever he wants, and if someone doesn't like it, they simply shouldn't follow him.
Unfortunately we live in a society it seems, in which instead of parents actually monitoring what their children see or do, like responsible parents, it's left up to essentially a complete stranger to "set a good example". I think that is crap.
First of all, Jason's Twitter headline says "Note: If your kids are on my page, they shouldn't be. Also, you're a ****** parent."
That pretty much sums it up. It's not his job to filter himself to please parents, because of his voice acting job. He does a lot of things. He's an actor, and he's a comedian.

Look at Sarah Silverman. She makes jokes about abortion, the holocaust, race, etc. She's constantly controversial. That is HOW she makes her living. And yet she voiced a main character in a DISNEY movie. Even during the release, she still had offensive tweets, and it wasn't a big deal.

I think people REALLY need to lay off of Jason Biggs, and parents need to do their jobs and not let their CHILDREN follow an actor who got his fame by SCREWING A PIE, on Twitter.

Eh, Biggs is one of those types that can dish out offensive stuff, but I highly doubt he's the kind that can take it.

I'll put it in a way like this: He can make fun about somebody else's kid dying (which technically the dead woman was) but I bet you call him a breeder and a contributor to overpopulation (technically true, as there is now 7+ billion on this planet) and watch how fast he gets his panties in a bunch.

Personally, I'd rather have Dominic voice Leonardo from now on. I can't stand douchebags who think they're all that, and Biggs is certainly climbing high up on that list. Dominic might not have an 'emotional' voice like Biggs, but if he get a lot more practice with being Leonardo, he might end up overcoming that.

True, Biggs can say anything he wants to, as with any of us. But when anyone says persistently offensive things in such a public environment, it shouldn't come as a surprise that people will think disfavorably of him/her, especially when the main intention is (or at least is perceived to) antagonize and stir up strife if he/she enjoys doing that. It may be a celebrity's "thing", but when the outcomes/repercussions come, and eventually they do (it may not be financial but from perception), let's hope for that celebrity it was all really worth it then in the end.

[Electric]

Nick animation's official twitter just tweeted "turtle power" at Sean, Greg, rob, and both jason and dominic.

Again leads me to believe jason was not fired, and Dominica just going to be filling in for a few episodes.

[Metalwolf]

You should do that, and get back to us with the reaction.I would, if it felt worth it to join Twitter just for that response. Unfortunately all I expect from him is some barely intelligent grunt burped up in type, quite likely bearing some form of swear word and a verbal rage boner.

Although it's fun to think about, I'm not normally the type to put it into actual practice. The only thing that I might have done really, is to dare him to eat that pie after he placed his genitals into it. >:]

[ToTheNines]

Nick animation's official twitter just tweeted "turtle power" at Sean, Greg, rob, and both jason and dominic.

Again leads me to believe jason was not fired, and Dominica just going to be filling in for a few episodes.

Just investigated, and it looks like they were just responding to some fanboy who included all five actors in his original post.

[Metalwolf]

True, Biggs can say anything he wants to, as with any of us. But when anyone says persistently offensive things in such a public environment, it shouldn't come as a surprise that people will think disfavorably of him/her, especially when the main intention is (or at least is perceived to) antagonize and stir up strife if he/she enjoys doing that. It may be a celebrity's "thing", but when the outcomes/repercussions come, and eventually they do (it may not be financial but from perception), let's hope for that celebrity it was all really worth it then in the end.Oh definitely. Normally I dislike speaking ill of a person, but Mr. Biggs annoys me greatly. He comes across to me as a big spoiled man-child. He doesn't come across as mature, somebody who I could say I respect. He has a newborn now, he should be thinking "Hmm, I might want to set a good example for my son."

I doubt it will come back to haunt him, unless he says something offensive about a specific group or did something especially heinous. That's almost always killed a celeb's career, unless s/he is little more then a walking dollar sign to some corporation (like Michael Vick, for example.) Then not even the best lawyers can ease the wrath of the public.

More then likely I say, he'll be one of those guys whose Tweets are as "Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing." I think the only embarrassment that comes will be when his son asks "Daddy, why did you stick your wee wee in a pie?"

[CyberCubed]

Jason Biggs career can't be, "killed," otherwise he would have already faded into obscurity after the first American Pie movie but he didn't.

[MCLeo28]

http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

This might be something you guys want to see. Good thing it's good news for us.

[CyberCubed]

http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

This might be something you guys want to see. Good thing it's good news for us.

That's just a random teen on tumblr saying Biggs wasn't replaced with no proof at all. We've seen that posted here before.

I don't know why whiny teens on tumblr are posting info about Jason Biggs like its facts when they have no clue what's going on. Given that half the TMNT tumblr fandom wants April and Donnie to make out, I'm not surprised.

At least we don't see those people come here.

[JTH]

That's just a random teen on tumblr saying Biggs wasn't replaced with no proof at all. We've seen that posted here before.

I don't know why whiny teens on tumblr are posting info about Jason Biggs like its facts when they have no clue what's going on. Given that half the TMNT tumblr fandom wants April and Donnie to make out, I'm not surprised.

At least we don't see those people come here.
As opposed to a whiny middle aged man shoving down everyone's throat how wrong they are about "Pizza Face" like it's fact when he clearly has no clue what he's talking about. Given it's Cubed though, I'm not surprised about that either.

At least expect this from a teen, middle aged men I find it quite laughable.

Whining about interspecies relationships Cubed? What are you, four? Five?

Just go get your diaper changed.

[CyberCubed]

There's a difference between complaining about poorly handled aspects of the franchise to someone posting false information about Jason Biggs fate in the show and saying its confirmed he's still Leonardo on tumblr where its getting reblogged.

[Electric]

With the next few episodes having a couple of Leo based episodes, really hope jason is back

[arkangel]

Regardless of talent, this guy just turns me off to no end. I'm sure there are a lot of equally talented VA's that could do Leo justice without Nick having to worry about all the negative PR this guy carries. Ya, not a fan. :lol:

[Sabacooza]

Regardless of talent, this guy just turns me off to no end. I'm sure there are a lot of equally talented VA's that could do Leo justice without Nick having to worry about all the negative PR this guy carries. Ya, not a fan. :lol:Actually, Leo voices are a dime a dozen. I'm not advocating that Biggs should be replaced. I like things to be as consistent as possible but finding a suitable replacement wouldn't be hard.

[Lou 500]

I would, if it felt worth it to join Twitter just for that response. Unfortunately all I expect from him is some barely intelligent grunt burped up in type, quite likely bearing some form of swear word and a verbal rage boner.

Although it's fun to think about, I'm not normally the type to put it into actual practice. The only thing that I might have done really, is to dare him to eat that pie after he placed his genitals into it. >:]

Tell him his 'stache doesn't suit him. I don't like his 'stache.

[Netkeeper]

That's just a random teen on tumblr saying Biggs wasn't replaced with no proof at all. We've seen that posted here before.

I don't know why whiny teens on tumblr are posting info about Jason Biggs like its facts when they have no clue what's going on. Given that half the TMNT tumblr fandom wants April and Donnie to make out, I'm not surprised.

At least we don't see those people come here.
Another advocate for "**** these tumblr Apritello shippers"? Good. Where's the +karma button or the like button on your post. As a tumblr regular I'm so, so sick of that mess.

[plastroncafe]

I would, if it felt worth it to join Twitter just for that response. Unfortunately all I expect from him is some barely intelligent grunt burped up in type, quite likely bearing some form of swear word and a verbal rage boner.

Although it's fun to think about, I'm not normally the type to put it into actual practice. The only thing that I might have done really, is to dare him to eat that pie after he placed his genitals into it. >:]

Guess that really answers your question then, doesn't it?

Though now I am curious, are you saying you wouldn't eat such a pie? And if not, why not?

[Metalwolf]

Guess that really answers your question then, doesn't it?

Though now I am curious, are you saying you wouldn't eat such a pie? And if not, why not?For one thing, it is the principal of it. To eat such a pie would be horribly degrading, a form of submission, if you will. Secondly, I cannot be assured that Mr. Biggs is one of those men that regularly cleans their genitals. Given the proximity of the penis to the rectal cavity and the good odds he does not wipe thoroughly after a bowel movement, he is highly likely crawling with E-coli and Salmonella.

If he cleans regularly, he should not be afraid to eat a pie he has placed his genitals in. But if he doesn't, he will be hesitant.

[plastroncafe]

For one thing, it is the principal of it. To eat such a pie would be horribly degrading, a form of submission, if you will. Secondly, I cannot be assured that Mr. Biggs is one of those men that regularly cleans their genitals. Given the proximity of the penis to the rectal cavity and the good odds he does not wipe thoroughly after a bowel movement, he is highly likely crawling with E-coli and Salmonella.

If he cleans regularly, he should not be afraid to eat a pie he has placed his genitals in. But if he doesn't, he will be hesitant.

The same thing could be said about any person's hands, though.
I dunno, I guess I'm just not seeing this as the same level GOTCHA moment as you seem to.

[CyberCubed]

Do we really need to be discussing Jason Bigg's penis in this thread?

[NoName999]

Well, he is thinking with that head instead of the one on his shoulders.

[BubblyShell22]

For one thing, it is the principal of it. To eat such a pie would be horribly degrading, a form of submission, if you will. Secondly, I cannot be assured that Mr. Biggs is one of those men that regularly cleans their genitals. Given the proximity of the penis to the rectal cavity and the good odds he does not wipe thoroughly after a bowel movement, he is highly likely crawling with E-coli and Salmonella.

If he cleans regularly, he should not be afraid to eat a pie he has placed his genitals in. But if he doesn't, he will be hesitant.

And knowing Jason, he'd probably take you up on that offer as he seems like the type to take dares like that. So your goal of degrading him wouldn't work because he'd probably get a laugh out of it.

[Metalwolf]

And knowing Jason, he'd probably take you up on that offer as he seems like the type to take dares like that. So your goal of degrading him wouldn't work because he'd probably get a laugh out of it.Oh, it's not like I'd intend to degrade him, I'm just curious about whether he'd do it. I know I wouldn't do it myself, for reason I've previously given. But with him, it's entertaining since in that sense, he's like the gift that keep on giving. A pie that had his genitals in it is likely very tame to him, so what I'd really dare him to eat would be stuff you'd find in Fear Factor. Things like boiled bull testicles, sheep's eyes, and camel fetus. All eaten in other cultures (but insanely gross to Western eyes) and all perfect 'dare' foods.

[Raven]

This thread got weird real quick.

[Jephael]

This thread got weird real quick.

What else do you expect when it's a discussion about a dude who's famous for humping a pastry on screen?

[MCLeo28]

^ That's why they're talking about that! I literally had no idea. Was questioning what those two were rambling on about.

[TurFlytle]

Wow, this has gone off-topic hasn't it?... :|

[Machias Banshee]

I have an overwhelming need to wash my hands, reading this thread now...

Keep on topic... just not THAT one...

[Metalwolf]

So with all of this back and forth, is he confirmed to be staying with the cast or is this still up in the air? I know Dominic said 'Keep watching' (which is annoyingly ambiguous and vague) but all we have is his Tweet and a fan's Tweet that might be just wishful thinking.

Any ideas?

[CowabungaMikey]

So with all of this back and forth, is he confirmed to be staying with the cast or is this still up in the air? I know Dominic said 'Keep watching' (which is annoyingly ambiguous and vague) but all we have is his Tweet and a fan's Tweet that might be just wishful thinking.

Any ideas?


Which fan tweet do you mean?

[Metalwolf]

Which fan tweet do you mean?I might have been thinking of this when I said 'Tweet'

http://tmntfandom2012.tumblr.com/post/86245824188/jason-biggs-not-replaced

But it's from a guy named Mikichan, who's reputability seems doubtful, as others have mentioned earlier on this thread.

[BubblyShell22]

As I said, Dom stated to keep watching season 2, so it's probable that he's voicing Leo some more in season 2 as Jason probably wasn't able to record during certain episodes. He's said nothing about season 3, but maybe he really can't say because if he did, that would create problems.

[abrill1023]

Hey guys, don't know if anyone else noticed, but I was watching "Follow the Leader" earlier & noticed Leonardo's voice changed at times from Jason to Dominic's. My guess is he's just filling in for Jason, at
least until they announce a change.

Don't know if he subbed in any other episodes. Guess I have to go back & watch em all!

[ranger_scout]

Why shouldn't Jason Biggs say what he wants on Twittter? He has the right to say and do whatever he wants, and if someone doesn't like it, they simply shouldn't follow him.
Unfortunately we live in a society it seems, in which instead of parents actually monitoring what their children see or do, like responsible parents, it's left up to essentially a complete stranger to "set a good example". I think that is crap.
First of all, Jason's Twitter headline says "Note: If your kids are on my page, they shouldn't be. Also, you're a ****** parent."
That pretty much sums it up. It's not his job to filter himself to please parents, because of his voice acting job. He does a lot of things. He's an actor, and he's a comedian.

Look at Sarah Silverman. She makes jokes about abortion, the holocaust, race, etc. She's constantly controversial. That is HOW she makes her living. And yet she voiced a main character in a DISNEY movie. Even during the release, she still had offensive tweets, and it wasn't a big deal.

I think people REALLY need to lay off of Jason Biggs, and parents need to do their jobs and not let their CHILDREN follow an actor who got his fame by SCREWING A PIE, on Twitter.

I didn't know about the Sarah Silverman thing until late 2012. She definitely went a little too far, but then again Disney had Pauly Shore work on two of the Goofy movies. He wasn't credited in the first one because things were different back then because it was the 90's. He was credited in the second one, but that one was released in the 2000's.

IMO Biggs is just CROSSING WAY OVER THE LINE. It takes a lot more strength and character to say something simple like I don't agree with conservative or Catholic views, but you don't need to go way far as the make extremely raunchy sexual jokes. He caused trouble earlier this year when he made a joke about the missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/jason-biggs-criticised-for-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-joke-on-twitter-days-after-aircraft-reported-missing-9183610.html

If the casting change did happen, maybe it occurred after he did this. Universal_Adam if the relatives and friends of the victims of the Malaysian Airlines flight and The Bachelorette contestants read these articles, they would be extremely offended and upset that someone is mocking the death of a loved one. How would you feel if someone did that to a dead relative or friend of yours?

On top of all of this he made headlines with an anti-Sea World advertisement.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/05/19/jason-biggs-peta-sea-world/

I've had great memories of going to those theme parks. My middle school even took us all the way to San Antonio and we got to spend the night by the shark tanks. I had such great time.

If he has been replaced, then I am not ashamed to say "good riddance".

[Powder]

I for one, love that he likes to push peoples buttons. In humor, no topic is sacred.

[Shark_Blade]

For one thing, it is the principal of it. To eat such a pie would be horribly degrading, a form of submission, if you will. Secondly, I cannot be assured that Mr. Biggs is one of those men that regularly cleans their genitals. Given the proximity of the penis to the rectal cavity and the good odds he does not wipe thoroughly after a bowel movement, he is highly likely crawling with E-coli and Salmonella.

If he cleans regularly, he should not be afraid to eat a pie he has placed his genitals in. But if he doesn't, he will be hesitant.Wtf :teek:

This thread is having a conversation about Jason Biggs' penis and rectum.. and in detailed description at that...

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Gilbert Gottfried has also been let go from almost every voice gig except for one...Disney


why? because Disney understand that its not up to the actors to raise other peoples children

[Leolead]

What's wrong with jason bigg?

[Leo656]

Voice acting is a very weird business. For example, Tara Strong is right now most well-known for her work on My Little Pony, but she also voiced several super-vulgar, offensive, over-sexed, and extremely racist characters on Drawn Together a few years back. If you really want a serious laugh, listen to the cast commentary on the Drawn Together Season 1 DVD. It's amazingly, ridiculously funny to hear the voice of Twilight Sparkle (completely and admittedly drunk off her ass, no less), proudly proclaim, "I love doing kids' shows, but I *really* love when I get to come to work and yell 'f*ck' and 'sh*t' and 'lick a p**** hole.'" :lol: I'm amazed sometimes how eclectic and diverse some of these peoples' portfolios really are.

That said, every company is different. I neither know nor care if Biggs is still doing TMNT, but it IS always possible that a person can get fired for things they say on a public forum, or even blacklisted from future work. This is an entirely different industry, but recently I attended a wrestling seminar with Gerald Brisco, one of the top scouts for talent for WWE, and he flat-out said that they avoid working with anyone who is vulgar, profane, or blatantly obnoxious on FB or twitter. When their own guys do it, they get seriously reprimanded, and if someone they are scouting acts in a way similar to how Biggs acts, they won't even consider working with them. As he put it, it shows a distinct lack of character and an unprofessional attitude. I'm highly anti-censorship, but I can totally understand that. When I work at The Monster Factory, the head trainer always reminds everyone, "No matter where else you wrestle, or what you say on FB and twitter, you are representing this company through your actions and your words, so don't be an assh*le and make us all look bad."

Again, every entertainment company is different. Me, if I'm working for a company that markets mostly to children - regardless of what work I've done in the past, if that's what I'm mostly working on *right now* - I'm going to respect them and respect the audience by NOT going out of my way to be offensive or controversial just because I think it's funny. I *do* think pissing people off is hilarious, or can be, but sometimes it's just not appropriate. A guy like Biggs, though, I can tell doesn't care. They could fire him tomorrow and he'd laugh it off. He can do that, because you wouldn't believe what DVD royalties pay. He's more than set for life from those stupid Pie movies. He never has to work again, which is why he's such a douche.

[BubblyShell22]

Not only that, but he's also doing Orange is the New Black, so even if he does get replaced on TMNT, he still makes money regardless by doing other stuff. He'll still get work, so it's no skin off his back, and he knows it.

[Tubuloso 1984]

This is the guy who was made famous for sticking his dick inside a pie. Why would he be fired for being too vulgar?

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

This is the guy who was made famous for sticking his dick inside a pie. Why would he be fired for being too vulgar?

You know, you should warn people before you use extreme sarcasm:P

[ranger_scout]

Catrambone really seems like a cool guy and he's seems humble as well.

@domcatrambone
What's it like voicing Leonardo !

Dominic Catrambone
‏@domcatrambone
Like a dream come true! He's always been a favorite of mine. I'm honored. #TMNT #Leonardo @mayowaeleso @JATactor

https://twitter.com/domcatrambone/status/471856185486749696

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, he really does, and he enjoys voicing the character, so that's cool.

[Andrew NDB]

This is the guy who was made famous for sticking his dick inside a pie. Why would he be fired for being too vulgar?

You know, you should warn people before you use extreme sarcasm:P

Was that sarcasm, though? He really did stick his dick in a pie and that really was what made him famous.

[ranger_scout]

I really don't think Biggs cares a thing about fans and how much an actor's work means to them.

I've admired Cam Clarke for so many years. Listen to this story he tells from 3:55 to 5:13 of this video and you'll see what I mean.

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Here's another reason why Cam Clarke is so great. Back in 2012, he and the other three original voice actors reunited at the Jon Lovitz Comedy Club and Podcast Theatre and they sent a message to guy who was unable to make it to the reunion since he was in the emergency room. Jason Biggs should've listen to what Cam had to say at 0:18 when he joined the 2012 series.

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[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Was that sarcasm, though? He really did stick his dick in a pie and that really was what made him famous.

This is the guy who was made famous for sticking his dick inside a pie. Why would he be fired for being too vulgar?
^^
That's why I thought it was Sarcasm

[ranger_scout]

Viewers will probably hear from Catrambone as Leonardo next week.

Linda Iroff ‏@LindaofNote Jun 6
@domcatrambone Will we hear you this Sunday on TMNT? I hope so!

Dominic Catrambone
‏@domcatrambone
Not sure about this Sunday but you will hear the amazing @bauzilla as Tiger Claw! Perhaps next week ;) @LindaofNote



https://twitter.com/domcatrambone/status/474954512981970944

[CyberCubed]

Really weird if true. Jason Biggs back one week and gone the next?

[ranger_scout]

Really weird if true. Jason Biggs back one week and gone the next?

Sometimes episodes are not always recorded in the order in which they air.

[BubblyShell22]

He probably wasn't available to record all his lines for the next episode. Kind of rude of the person to say that they hoped they wouldn't hear him next week. I like Dom myself.

[JTH]

Really weird if true. Jason Biggs back one week and gone the next?
Pizza Face was supposed to be after Wrath of Tiger Claw, remember?

[BubblyShell22]

Really weird if true. Jason Biggs back one week and gone the next?

Like I've said before, Jason probably wasn't available that day to record, so Dom filled in for him. He was available for this latest episode, so that's why we heard him. I guess it just depends on when the eps are recorded. This one may have been recorded before Jason got picked up for "Orange is the New Black" while Pizza Face was recorded while Jason was doing the show. It doesn't really take that much thought to figure that out. I don't know if he has been replaced, but if he has, then I think Dom's a good choice. Maybe Dom did have to fill in for another episode later on, and if so, that's fine. It happens.

[IndigoErth]

For now, unless there is a statement otherwise or long term disappearance, I have to agree it was probably only temporary with the other guy as a stand-in on an as needed basis.

That isn't to say I'm in defense of Mr. Biggs, because honestly I'm not too impressed with him as a person. At all. And to have an honorable character like Leo in his hands, he aught to feel a little fortunate. (God, Leo, Biggs, now Knoxville? Poor guy.) I do like what he does in terms of voice work for Leo's character though. It's good enough to pretend it's not Jason Biggs.

[ranger_scout]

For now, unless there is a statement otherwise or long term disappearance, I have to agree it was probably only temporary with the other guy as a stand-in on an as needed basis.

That isn't to say I'm in defense of Mr. Biggs, because honestly I'm not too impressed with him as a person. At all. And to have an honorable character like Leo in his hands, he aught to feel a little fortunate. (God, Leo, Biggs, now Knoxville? Poor guy.) I do like what he does in terms of voice work for Leo's character though. It's good enough to pretend it's not Jason Biggs.

I suppose we should probably wait till we get a press release for when will season 3 debut like this one about season 2.

Season two stars Sean Astin (Lord of the Rings) as Raphael, Rob Paulsen (Planet Sheen) as Donatello, Greg Cipes (Teen Titans) as Michelangelo, Jason Biggs (Orange is the New Black) as Leonardo, Mae Whitman (Parenthood) as April O’Neil, Hoon Lee (Royal Pains) as Master Splinter and Kevin Michael Richardson (Penguins of Madagascar) as Shredder. Joining the cast will be Josh Peck (Drake & Josh) as Casey Jones, and Corey Feldman (The Goonies) reoccurs as Slash.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/09/26/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-season-two-debuts-october-12-at-11am/205113/

Still what Catrambone said last month makes wonder if the change is permanent.


Bob ‏@RevolverBobcat · May 19
@domcatrambone When first watching Turtles ep. Pizza Face, I didn't even notice a Leo change. Good job! Is this permanent or temp? :)

Dominic Catrambone
‏@domcatrambone That's good to hear! Not at liberty to say but do keep watching @RevolverBobcat

https://twitter.com/domcatrambone

[pennydreadful]

That isn't to say I'm in defense of Mr. Biggs, because honestly I'm not too impressed with him as a person. At all. And to have an honorable character like Leo in his hands, he aught to feel a little fortunate. (God, Leo, Biggs, now Knoxville? Poor guy.) I do like what he does in terms of voice work for Leo's character though. It's good enough to pretend it's not Jason Biggs.

This, exactly. I've reached the point where, if I find an actor/writer/musician obnoxious, I just try really hard to tune it out and just focus on the work itself. If I boycotted everyone's work based on whether they're a jerk or not, I wouldn't have much to watch/read/listen to! (Though of course I do make exceptions in extreme cases.)

For all intents and purposes, he does a good job as Leo - but if he's replaced, it won't phase me for a second.

[Shark_Blade]

I don't mind either Biggs or Dominic, both are good enough as Leo for me. :tlove:

[ranger_scout]

I'm really starting to think this change is permanent or Dominic Catrambone is at least an alternate Leonardo. Look at what he wrote yesterday.

"Running, jumping, swinging a sword... Just another day at the office with the extremely talented @big_kish @katemicucci #TMNT #bestjobever"


https://twitter.com/domcatrambone

As most people know, Andrew Kishino and Kate Micucci are current actors on the show. And as I've mentioned before, Sunday's episode might have been recorded before Catrambone joined the cast (possibly permanently).

ETA: The last two episodes also have different production codes if that means anything.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/listings/

[Konchadunga]

I hate PETA, I hate Seaworld, I hate assholes like Biggs, and I hate that mikichan blog. I, too, would not boycott everything just because there's someone involved in it I hate, but I'm just a consumer. If I ran a business, I sure as shell would fire people on the grounds that they were assholes, and you best believe the Nick guys can. Even if there's some truth to the claims that lines are recorded far in advance, and thus what we're seeing now is just a fluke, there's always the option of rerecording lines from one actor if they really, really want to get rid of him.

[pennydreadful]

I hate PETA, I hate Seaworld, I hate assholes like Biggs, and I hate that mikichan blog. I, too, would not boycott everything just because there's someone involved in it I hate, but I'm just a consumer. If I ran a business, I sure as shell would fire people on the grounds that they were assholes, and you best believe the Nick guys can. Even if there's some truth to the claims that lines are recorded far in advance, and thus what we're seeing now is just a fluke, there's always the option of rerecording lines from one actor if they really, really want to get rid of him.

I think people are starting to become pretty desensitized towards jerky behaviour from stars, so there's a lot less public fallout when someone starts behaving like an asshat. In some cases, it even seems to help their careers.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

it's not looking good for Jason, the episode might have been in a different production order to the voicing.

[BubblyShell22]

Or he may just have not been available that day to record. Who knows? But maybe Dom can't say whether he's permanent or not until it's officially confirmed. Either way, I just don't care anymore. Biggs has done a good job, but if you would have asked me before he was cast who would make a good Leo, Biggs would not have been on my list. He's surprised me though with what he can do, but sometimes, circumstances change, and if Jason can't make all of the recordings as he should, then maybe they decided he should no longer have the role. Or he quit in order to do "Orange is the New Black" and to spend more time with his son. The only thing we can do is wait and see what happens in season 3. If Jason's still voicing Leo there, then we know he wasn't completely replaced.

[IndigoErth]

Do the actor's contracts for it run season to season?

"Running, jumping, swinging a sword... Just another day at the office with the extremely talented @big_kish @katemicucci #TMNT #bestjobever"

I suppose it could be possible that Biggs could decide to step down and perhaps Pizza Face was a test run for the other guy. Or, who knows.. We shall see. (Darn it, Mr. Catrambone, stop teasing us. lol)

I'd kinda miss Biggs' particular tone for Leo, though Catrambone prob wouldn't take too long to get used to.

[JH24]

This, exactly. I've reached the point where, if I find an actor/writer/musician obnoxious, I just try really hard to tune it out and just focus on the work itself. If I boycotted everyone's work based on whether they're a jerk or not, I wouldn't have much to watch/read/listen to! (Though of course I do make exceptions in extreme cases.)

For all intents and purposes, he does a good job as Leo - but if he's replaced, it won't phase me for a second.

You've worded what I've been feeling as well, but I wouldn't have been able to put into the right words.

I love Jason's work as Leonardo, but I've also seen some of his stuff online (and I regret looking at his Twitter) and it took me a little while to tune all those things out.


Again, I really enjoy his work as Leonardo, but Dominic seems like a nice guy and did a good first job in Pizza Face.

Meh, I don't know what to think anymore, I just have to wait and see. Like Pennydreadful said, If you had to boycot every actor you don't like there would be quite some stuff you had to skip.

[Electric]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but dominic tweeted something like "not this Sunday, but maybe the next one" Saturday I believe.

So chances are he's going to be, in some part, voicing Leo this next episode.

I got my hopes up that Jason was back:ohwell:

Regardless of what he tweets and says, he does a great job voicing Leo, and while dominic comes close, it is not as good as Jason's.

[ranger_scout]

Some departures and dismissals from animated TV series are not always officially reported. Christine Cavanaugh, who was best known for voicing popular character like Chuckie Finster on Rugrats and Dexter in Dexter's Laboratory, unexpectedly quit voice acting in 2001 and has not been heard from since. Those two characters voices were later taken over by Nancy Cartwright and Candi Milo respectively, but there was no press about them replacing Cavanaugh. Voice actors in the English dub of Sailor Moon also permanently left the program over the years for other projects or reasons that were personal or that involved their families. Like I said, the most fans will get about news of a replacement is when there's an article about a season 3 premiere.

Like Pennydreadful said, If you had to boycot every actor you don't like there would be quite some stuff you had to skip.

Pauly Shore is a huge jerk and I don't agree with any of the controversy he creates, even though I never read about him. I still watch the Goofy movies and I liked his work in it. Russell Brand is the definition of a creep, but that does not stop me from watching the Despicable Me films. Same thing goes with Sarah Silverman and Wreck-It Ralph even though I did not learn about what she did until after I saw the movie. Then, I hear about all of the charges against X-Men director, Bryan Singer, which were all horrible. But I love the movies and I still wanted to see Days of Future Past since I am a big X-Men fan.

I guess I'm more bothered by what Biggs has done is because I think mocking the dead is crossing way over the line. He never knew that contestant from The Bachelorette or any of the people from the missing Malaysian Airlines flight. Those people did anything terrible to him and I don't see why he should mock their deaths. I was also offended by his sexual jokes about the Pope and the Blessed Mother Mary since I am a Catholic and I don't like it when someone completely trashes my religion. And that's all I have to say about him for now.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, The Bachelorette contestant killed herself, but I agree that he really shouldn't have said those things about those people. He should definitely have more respect for the dead. I don't care about people trashing religion because I do it myself and it's done in TV shows all of the time, but saying stuff about dead people is a whole other ball game.

[ranger_scout]

Well, The Bachelorette contestant killed herself, but I agree that he really shouldn't have said those things about those people. He should definitely have more respect for the dead.

That was a different person. Her name was Gia Allemend and she died last year. I cannot recall reading about him mocking her death. The person's death he mocked was a man named Eric Hill, who died in a paragliding accident.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/23/bachelorette-contestant-eric-hill-dead-paragliding-accident_n_5199544.html

[TMNT_Guy]

I don't care about people trashing religion because I do it myself and it's done in TV shows all of the time.
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[BubblyShell22]

Well, it has been in shows like Family Guy and South Park, so there are shows that do make fun of religion.

[pennydreadful]

Or he quit in order to do "Orange is the New Black" and to spend more time with his son.

On a side note, I do not understand the appeal of this show - I've tried to watch it twice and I just can't get into it... which is weird, because I loved Bad Girls, and there is absolutely no reason that I shouldn't love a lesbian prison tv show. I can't put my finger on it, it just hasn't grabbed my attention when I've watched it. Anyone else have the same problem?

[BabyTurtles]

Well, it has been in shows like Family Guy and South Park, so there are shows that do make fun of religion.

that doesn't make it right.

anyway if Jason Biggs is going to keep acting like a jerk...then he should have consequences.

I'd rather get used to the new guy who seems like he would be more respectful.

[BubblyShell22]

Maybe to you it doesn't. I don't care what people say about religion or if they make fun of it. Even when I still considered myself Catholic, I laughed at the Family Guy episode with the Pope and the episode "The Father, The Son, and the Holy Fonz." It was just funny to me and didn't offend me at all. Same goes with what South Park has done.

[batmanfn]

I definitely never noticed it

The different voice actor that is

[BubblyShell22]

I did. Dom sounded a little similar to Jason, but I could definitely tell the slight difference in tone and inflection. It didn't bother me though. I was more confused that he did that because in the other times that he filled in, he sounded like Leo from the video game, and in this instance he was trying to sound more like Jason.

[Jester]

I wanna say Dom will voice Leo this Sunday if this clip I saw on FB is an indication:
http://vimeo.com/97984687
*Thanks Vaughn...

[BubblyShell22]

He is voicing Leo this Sunday. Jason must not have been available at the time of recording.

[Metalwolf]

I'd rather have Dom. Jason... sounds like one of those guys that eventually say something really offensive either as a slip or trying to be shocking, and then Nick has to do damage control and try to disassociate themselves from the negativity.

I've seen that happen before, and it's not pretty. Besides, just because a person's famous, doesn't mean they automatically act like a douche. Frank Welker does many voices on all different shows, and he seems to be a nice guy.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, if that happens, then it's his own fault, not anyone else's. But to me, it seems like they knew about his shocking behavior before they hired him, and if they didn't want someone like that working for their company, they wouldn't have hired him in the first place. So I don't think they'll fire him unless they really have to. I think Dom's just the understudy for now.

[Refractive Reflections]

that doesn't make it right.

anyway if Jason Biggs is going to keep acting like a jerk...then he should have consequences.

I'd rather get used to the new guy who seems like he would be more respectful.

Whether it's temporary or not, Nick subtly indicated with Dominic Catrambone's presence that Jason Biggs is replaceable/expendable, and that he can be easily removed from the "close-knit" voice acting team if Biggs thinks he's somehow an integral part of it. So I'm sure if Biggs does go too far, Nick has indicated to Biggs that he certainly won't be missed from a business perspective, since there's already someone else who's ready to take over his job, and his absence won't be noticeable in the finished product.

The big question is what is the tolerance level for the Nick executives with Biggs' behavior, since he's now gained the unwanted attention of the middle-aged women demographic about his comments on The Bachelorette. I'm sure Nick isn't too happy since those women are the mothers of the children watching the Nick TMNT show, and the source of Nick's income for the TMNT merchandise.

[BubblyShell22]

That's the thing. It probably varies with what company you work for. But as I said before, they knew from the get go what they were getting into in hiring Jason as Leo and knew about his comments on his Twitter page beforehand since some of the Nick folks even linked to it on their site. My thing is, if they knew of all of this, then they shouldn't have hired him in the first place. They did though, so if things get out of hand, it's essentially their fault for hiring him. He's definitely expendable and I'm sure a lot of us really wouldn't care if he continued to play Leo or not with the exception of maybe a select few. I think Dom's a perfect replacement and certainly won't mind if he's there on a permanent basis.

[IndigoErth]

Any idea if the others have a stand-ins? Guess it could be a little bit of pressure on old Mr. Biggs there with this other guy waiting to take his place full-time should it need to happen.

Side note, it kinda irks me a little though that us "regular" people could have a potential employer pass judgement based on things posted to Facebook or Twitter, but a celebrity of course gets a free pass. :roll:

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I agree with that, but that's the way the world works. Same goes for getting in trouble with the law and how celebrities get free passes on that, too. So horrible.

[Konchadunga]

The flip side, though, is that celebrities will be followed a lot more closely by a lot more people. An employer may be willing to give a celebrity a free pass at their association if that celebrity possessed something else that appeals to them, or more commonly, if that celebrity's very name sells. But if the public's opinion starts to shift; if the celebrity has done those things the people truly won't forgive, then it becomes bad for business to keep the association.

[MikeandRaph87]

Would Anrea Romero be the responsible for his controversial hiring?

Let us not forget that Sean Astin if only so well known is also a celebrity of sorts like Biggs while the others are premarily voice actors.

[BubblyShell22]

I don't know if it was Andrea who hired him or not, but if she did, she did it primarily on his audition. But if he's getting some controversy over things and it's putting bad press for Nick, then he may be replaced. It's up to the company themselves to decide whether to do that or not. They may not because they may be the type of company who doesn't worry about what someone says on their Twitter page. They may feel that as long as Jason is bringing in money for them, they'll look the other way on his other stuff.