Edgar Wright no longer directing Ant-Man

[TigerClaw]

Edgar Wright is no longer gonna be directing the Ant-Man movie for Marvel, Due to creative differences. Marvel is searching for a new director.
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/edgar-wright-exits-marvels-ant-man-as-director-1201190458/

[The Stryker]

Great news

[TigerClaw]

Great news
I guess your not a fan of his work? The only movie I seen him direct was Scott Pilgrim.

[electric_sheep]

Well ****...
He was actualy the only reason i was excited for that movie...
Not a big fan of Marvel all of their movies are the same soulles, not very much character in them and every single one has the ending where it all boils down to explosion and big action and hero and villain punching eachother, even the ones i liked. I am interested to see how long they can keep that up. ...

[plastroncafe]

Dang.
I was really looking forward to Wright making me care for another character I found insufferable in the comics.

[electric_sheep]

They loose Michael Daglas next, calling it now...

[Cure]

I'm more interested in who the new director is. I was indifferent about this guy.

[NinjaPug]

Don't really care. I wish they'd dump his Scott Lang script and give us a present day Hank Pym instead.

Did Wright really think he wasn't going have changes from a studio like Marvl/Disney? Your films need to make money before you can make new ones without studio interference.

[Peanut]

It's Ant-Man.

[electric_sheep]

It's Ant-Man.

Yeah but Wright might have done something interesting with him but we can't have that now, can we?

[TurtleTitan97]

Well that sucks.

[CyberCubed]

My only exposure to Ant-man is in the Avengers: EMH cartoon and he's an awesome character in that show. If the one in the movie has as good characterisation as in the show, I'm all for it.

Also Wasp needs to be in this movie, but I'm sure she probably will be.

[Raven]

Well that sucks, sounded like he had a cool vision for the movie.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

I was devastated, you could say, when I heard the news.

The reason this stinks is he's been working on this beast since 2008. 2008! He was working on this movie before Iron Man came out. He put his heart and soul into this whole project for YEARS, he spent so much time working on it. And then, because of creative differences, he just gets up and leaves. Or he was kicked. Either way, he departed, because Disney and Marvel wanted something different. Whatever that 'different' is.

I was really intrigued to see Wright's take on the movie. Even if I preferred to a see Hank Pym story, I was excited to see this guy who has made some great films in the past, bring that element to the table when he made this movie. A guy focused more on character development than big explosions or flashy scenes. A guy who would have probably given us a much different 'superhero film' then we usually see.

And that really disappoints me, that we don't get to see him do this. And I'm disappointed FOR him, too. This was his 'baby', you could say. It was finally coming to fruition, things were finally moving forward, when it all hit a road block.

Kind of disappointing, and without the Wright dynamic, I'm not sure what I think of this Ant-Man film anymore. I really do love the character (at least Hank Pym, I'm a little less familiar with Scott Lang), but I don't know if that'll be enough. Or if they'll be able to pull it off.

[ZariusTwo]

Wright's invovlement gave me slight hope this one would be one of the few unique entries in the cinematic tapestry so far, now I'm simply expecting another passable but ultimately forgettable bit of gunk that won't hold up in a year just like the majority of them now.

[electric_sheep]

Wright's invovlement gave me slight hope this one would be one of the few unique entries in the cinematic tapestry so far, now I'm simply expecting another passable but ultimately forgettable bit of gunk that won't hold up in a year just like the majority of them now.

I feel the exact same way, i like them first couple of time but none of them hold up with each viewing it becomes more and more aparent what they really are..
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=100678

[AT-Man]

Kevin Feige's vision is the one that matters, and if Wright's was too different, then good riddance.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

And so it begins... the comic geeks are no longer making these movies - just the idiots at Disney. That's where Iron Man 3 came from.

[Hero]

Spaced season 3 ahoy! :)

[The Stryker]

And so it begins... the comic geeks are no longer making these movies - just the idiots at Disney. That's where Iron Man 3 came from.

And who's fault is Iron Man 2?

[sdp]

I know I'm in the minority but I enjoyed Iron Man 2, sure it didn't do anything too different but it gave us more of what we loved. "It's a commercial for the Avengers", meh I thought it was well done since the MCU was still new and seeing more of this "shared" universe was cool. I actually think less of Thor/Captain America since they feel more of "yeah this is their origin, get ready for the Avengers"

Iron Man 3 on the other hand gave us an awesome trailer and something I really wanted to see where it went and they gave us a "swerve", the problem was the real villain wasn't anywhere as interesting as the "fake" villain they had set up and fooled us to go to the movie for making it a lackluster reveal instead of actually shocking us.

Well I don't agree with the part of Wright since I'm not familiar with his work but I agree with the rest of this post.
I'm simply expecting another passable but ultimately forgettable bit of gunk that won't hold up in a year just like the majority of them now.

This is how I feel about most Marvel movies, and I'm not a Marvel hater, if they make awesome movies great, if they make passable movies then whatever, I just can't get excited over them. I still think Ant-Man could be done very well because the concept of a superhero called Ant-Man is so out there they have to work extra hard to make it appealing/entertaining and they can't just phone it in.

[NinjaPug]

First rumor for Wright's replacement is Louis D'Esposito who has directed the Agent Carter and Item 47 one-shots for Marvel.

[NinjaPug]

Adam McKay (Anchorman) allegedly offered the directing job for Ant-Man

http://www.slashfilm.com/ant-man-adam-mckay/

[NinjaPug]

Good move by Marvel all things considered. Plus a small plot summary for Ant-Man


Director Peyton Reed and Writer Adam McKay Join Marvel's Ant-Man

When Marvel's "Ant-Man" hits theaters July 17, 2015, director Peyton Reed will help shepherd the hero into the Marvel Cinematic Universe with a cast led by Paul Rudd and Michael Douglas, with writer Adam McKay contributing to the film's script.

Armed with the astonishing ability to shrink in scale but increase in strength, con-man Scott Lang (Rudd) must embrace his inner-hero and help his mentor, Dr. Hank Pym (Douglas), protect the secret behind his spectacular Ant-Man suit from a new generation of towering threats. Against seemingly insurmountable obstacles, Pym and Lang must plan and pull off a heist that will save the world.

http://marvel.com/news/movies/2014/6/7/22643/director_peyton_reed_and_writer_adam_mckay_join_ma rvels_ant-man

[electric_sheep]

Good move by Marvel all things considered. Plus a small plot summary for Ant-Man



http://marvel.com/news/movies/2014/6/7/22643/director_peyton_reed_and_writer_adam_mckay_join_ma rvels_ant-man

Sounds like every other generic Marvel movie, have to save the world in every movie because drama...
I have a feeling that's what's Edgar was figthting against...

[ToTheNines]

Sounds like every other generic Marvel movie, have to save the world in every movie because drama...
I have a feeling that's what's Edgar was figthting against...

I mean... they're ****ing superhero movies dude.

But if you get technical, the only movies where the titular hero literally saved the world were Captain America, Avengers, Thor 2, and Cap 2.

[NinjaPug]

Pretty cool concept art

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2014/07/23/Ant-Man-Comic-Con_612x942.jpg

[NinjaPug]

A 1:48 trailer for Ant-Man was classified today which means we should be seeing it in the next ~ 2 weeks.

[NinjaPug]

Spoilered for size

http://i.imgur.com/HFWm1iM.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Trailer released this Tuesday during Agent Carter

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[Candy Kappa]

Ant sized trailer... so cruel, yet I can't hate them for it. :lol:

[AT-Man]

Ingenious!

[NinjaPug]

Marvel released a "human-sized" version of the teaser:

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[NinjaPug]

https://i.imgur.com/YgfircL.jpg

[plastroncafe]

I have to give it to the promotional team, that's pretty damn funny.

[TigerClaw]

https://i.imgur.com/YgfircL.jpg
That's pretty clever.

[NinjaPug]

I think Rudd looks like a pretty damn good Scott Lang / Ant-Man

https://i.imgur.com/4Iolxkn.jpg

[NinjaPug]

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[sdp]

What a terrible teaser, I think this movie is definitely going to flop unlike GotG that had awesome teasers/trailers this one seems about as generic/by the book as you can get and the Ant-Man is probably seen as ridiculous for people.

I was actually pretty hyped for this movie when I was seeing the posters until about last week when I read that Ant-Man is Scott Lang and not Pym and we don't even know if Janet/Wasp will be in the movie. Pym and Janet are two of my favorite Marvel characters so not seeing her and not seeing Pym in his full glory kind of sucks. Ant-Man was a character I found ridiculous until I read some good stories with him and those stories were not usually the normal superhero stuff, they were more adventure stories. If the movie can be like that I think it could win over audiences or at the very least be a good movie, we'll see how it goes with the other trailers it gets. If I had to guess they probably didn't want Hank Pym since the MCU version of Tony Stark was written a little too similarly to Hank Pym by being so smart so they don't need another super genius which is too bad because Hank Pym is on the same level of intellect as Mr. Fantastic which Tony can only dream of even if he is fairly smart as well.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

If I had to guess they probably didn't want Hank Pym since the MCU version of Tony Stark was written a little too similarly to Hank Pym by being so smart so they don't need another super genius which is too bad because Hank Pym is on the same level of intellect as Mr. Fantastic which Tony can only dream of even if he is fairly smart as well.


Not true. Tony, Hank and Reed are ALL in the top five in terms of intellect in the MU. Reed is arguably the smartest of the three, but Tony and Hank are actually neck and neck over who takes second. And believe it or not, Peter Parker (YES, Spider-Man) and Bruce (Hulk) Banner round out the top five. These are ALL top-tier brains in the MU, along with the likes of Beast, Moon Knight, and Professor Xavier. And about a handful of others I can't think of at the moment. But to say Tony WISHES he was that smart?! That's just not true- it's SEVERELY underestimating the intelligence of a man who was an MIT grad at 14!

[plastroncafe]

The Marvel Cinematic Universe pulls heavily from the Marvel Ultimate Universe, in which Pym beats his wife. So I'm thinking that's also partly the reason for why he's not the one in the Ant-Man suit.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Actually, that was the 616 universe, and he slapped her. ONCE. During a very HEATED argument while he was obsessing over his failures with Ultron. I don't recall if the MUU ever used that bit, but that's where it originated. People tend to make WAAAY too much out of that one slap. It never happened again, and IIRC, he was also drunk at the time. And got punched for it by Cap when he walked in on the whole thing. Incident settled.

[CaliperCat]

Man, Ant Man just can't catch a break. It feels like they've been trying to actually get this movie made for forever now. Considering that they gave a bug chunk of his role to Tony Stark in the movies, though, maybe that's not all that surprising.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe pulls heavily from the Marvel Ultimate Universe, in which Pym beats his wife. So I'm thinking that's also partly the reason for why he's not the one in the Ant-Man suit.

I didn't know about that, but that could very well be the reason why (although at least we get Michael Douglas out of it). I figured they definitely weren't going to include Eric O'Grady in the movie, since he used his stretch as Ant Man for some, ah, less than moral gains.

[Ninjinister]

I thought the teaser was decent enough for a teaser. I would have definitely liked Wright in the chair since he directed my favorite movie, but I haven't had any big disagreements with any decisions in the end that Marvel Studios have made so I'm hopeful.

[Leo656]

I prefer The Atom. One day they're inevitably gonna make an Atom movie, and people are gonna accuse DC/WB of ripping off Marvel/Ant-Man, rather than t'other way 'round. Kind of annoying.

Also, one of these mighty mites has an actual super-hero name. The other, a Mad Magazine-style parody of a super-hero name. :lol: "Ant-Man". That's really a guy! Unreal. When I was a kid I swore someone made that up. Then I saw him on a poster next to Captain America and I knew he was real. :lol:

But yeah I don't see this making a huge splash. But ya neeeeeever knoooow...

[Candy Kappa]

Actually, that was the 616 universe, and he slapped her. ONCE. During a very HEATED argument while he was obsessing over his failures with Ultron. I don't recall if the MUU ever used that bit, but that's where it originated. People tend to make WAAAY too much out of that one slap. It never happened again, and IIRC, he was also drunk at the time. And got punched for it by Cap when he walked in on the whole thing. Incident settled.

And the artist misinterpretated the script and drew Ant-Man giving Wasp the slap of the century.

And it's odd it got stuck on Pym being the wife beater, since Reed have slapped Sue several times and even Peter Parker have slapped MJ.

But then again, I kinda like it that Pym is seen as the wife beater, it adds flaws to the character and makes him more three dimensional then just a square jawed white guy superhero. And it's inter sting to see how other characters reacts around Hank, like She-Hulk. Who refused to leave Hank alone with Janet.

Ultimate Universe took it further, and had not only Hank beating the crap out of Janet, but he set his ants on her to kill her.

[Leo656]

I seen some of those really old F4 comics where Reed always has to slap Sue to get her to "pull herself together", in between her never-ending sobbing about how inept and useless she was.:lol:

Not "funny", exactly, but... actually, yeah, hilarious. Those old F4 comics are like an Anti-Feminist Time Capsule. :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

Peter Parker once hit a pregnant MJ during the Clone Saga in the pre-OMD 616 universe (it still counts in MC2 canon along with every other development that grew him up) it was one of the contributing factors to him briefly retiring and handing over to Ben Reily

[TigerClaw]

Here's some screenshots from the trailer.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=113225

http://i.imgur.com/3zGNIlT.jpg

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[TigerClaw]

Here's some animated GIFs.

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[MsMarvelDuckie]

And the artist misinterpretated the script and drew Ant-Man giving Wasp the slap of the century.

And it's odd it got stuck on Pym being the wife beater, since Reed have slapped Sue several times and even Peter Parker have slapped MJ.

But then again, I kinda like it that Pym is seen as the wife beater, it adds flaws to the character and makes him more three dimensional then just a square jawed white guy superhero. And it's inter sting to see how other characters reacts around Hank, like She-Hulk. Who refused to leave Hank alone with Janet.

Ultimate Universe took it further, and had not only Hank beating the crap out of Janet, but he set his ants on her to kill her.


Indeed. I didn't know about Reed slapping Sue, and I'd almost forgotten the M-J slap, but yeah, it's interesting that Pym gets all the hate for that when others have done the same thing. However, in Pym's case, he was trying to create a fake threat to fight so that he would be taken seriously as a hero and Avenger again, and went overboard in his reaction to Janet calling him out on it and threatening to narc on him. So he slaps her, and then Cap sees the slap and knocked him silly, without even knowing what it was about. Pym was totally in the wrong no matter how you slice it, and I think that has a lot to do with how he is seen by the readers and even within the MU itself. He's no longer trusted as he once was, for all of the above reasons.


Peter Parker once hit a pregnant MJ during the Clone Saga in the pre-OMD 616 universe (it still counts in MC2 canon along with every other development that grew him up) it was one of the contributing factors to him briefly retiring and handing over to Ben Reily

True, true. *nods sagely* At some point, I think Peter decided that he was getting out of control, and realized he needed to step away from the suit for a while. But that's what makes him such a deep, well-developed character, that he has that kind of self-awareness.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Oh, that's the Parker slap you're talking about? Yeah, that was when he was on the verge of a breakdown when he was told he was a clone of Ben Reilly. So that's not really fair to Peter.

Pym was always a little bit of a nut, but he really went over the bend after the strain of knowing he'd created Ultron. He pretended to be Yellowjacket and fought the Avengers, and then he went through multiple superhero identity changes... poor guy.

[TigerClaw]

Someone did a Fixed Re-Edit of the Trailer which made it all better.

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[TurtleTitan97]

Someone did a Fixed Re-Edit of the Trailer which made it all better.

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Meh. I prefer the original version, honestly. I don't see anything wrong with it.

But back on topic, this movie looks great. Super excited for it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Oh, that's the Parker slap you're talking about? Yeah, that was when he was on the verge of a breakdown when he was told he was a clone of Ben Reilly. So that's not really fair to Peter.

Pym was always a little bit of a nut, but he really went over the bend after the strain of knowing he'd created Ultron. He pretended to be Yellowjacket and fought the Avengers, and then he went through multiple superhero identity changes... poor guy.


Yeah, but you have to admit that he brought it all on himself. I think that's where a lot of the hate for him comes from, whereas Peter was basically suffering the repercussions of being told he wasn't "real", and that his entire life was a lie- it would do quite a number on a person's mental state, to be sure. So he kind of gets a pass for that, I suppose. He literally wasn't "himself".

[joefsas]

This looks awsome! Can't wait to see it!

[NinjaPug]

Love the suit

https://i.imgur.com/OvbZCrH.png

[Bry]

Kinda cautiously optimistic about this. I was worried when Edgar Wright and Marvel "broke up", and the trailer kinda supported those fears a bit - it looks pretty serious and generic compared to what I was hoping for, at least so far. It could just be a misleading trailer, so I'm not going to assume too much, but I was really hoping for some fun on this one. Something quick and funny and clever and emotional (y'know, an Edgar Wright movie, basically) and this seems pretty... cold, to me. I don't think it'll be bad or anything, but I was hoping for something with a lighter and distinct tone, and I'm not really feeling that yet.

Keeping an open mind, and I'll definitely see it. But I'm a bit worried this could me Marvel's first fumble.

But yeah - the suit looks good. :)

[plastroncafe]

Actually, that was the 616 universe, and he slapped her. ONCE. During a very HEATED argument while he was obsessing over his failures with Ultron. I don't recall if the MUU ever used that bit, but that's where it originated. People tend to make WAAAY too much out of that one slap. It never happened again, and IIRC, he was also drunk at the time. And got punched for it by Cap when he walked in on the whole thing. Incident settled.

That it hasn't happened again doesn't mean it won't or couldn't, and Cap punching him doesn't absolve him from having done it in the first place. Just like he will always be an alcoholic regardless of how much or little he drinks, he'll always be a wife beater regardless of whether or not he raises his hand to her again.

And I'm pretty sure he's an abusive alcoholic in Ultimates as well as 616.

Anyway...that's my theory as to why we don't get much of Pym in the movie.

[FoxBoxKid]

That it hasn't happened again doesn't mean it won't or couldn't, and Cap punching him doesn't absolve him from having done it in the first place. Just like he will always be an alcoholic regardless of how much or little he drinks, he'll always be a wife beater regardless of whether or not he raises his hand to her again.

And I'm pretty sure he's an abusive alcoholic in Ultimates as well as 616.

Anyway...that's my theory as to why we don't get much of Pym in the movie.

Seeing as they're divorced in the mainstream continuity and both dead in the Ultimate universe, I doubt that it'll happen again. Also, he was in a very fragile mental state at the time, and it's a comic book. It's really up to the writers to decide if he's abusive alcoholic or not.

[Amaranthus]

The costume looks great. But I'm afraid this will just be another generic superhero movie.
I'm not saying all Marvel's movies are mediocre. But a great deal of them is.
I'm probably going to see it anyway though.

[TonySiegel]

hopefully its better than the thor movies... and it would be awesome if they make yellowjacket a legit villain...

he might get defeated in a dance off though...

[guardians ending = :tsad:]

[TigerClaw]

Here's some new official stills.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=113390

http://img2-2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2015/01/07/Ant-Man-Tub.jpg

http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/i/2015/01/07/Scott-Lang.jpg

http://img2-1.timeinc.net/ew/i/2015/01/07/Scott-Lang-on-an-ant.jpg

[Raven]

Trailer was cool, but man its going to be hard to sell this movie I think. It doesn't have that same under dog feel that Guardians had, that was fun and light hearted.

[Leo656]

It's also called "Ant-Man."

Be honest, the first time anyone hears that name they assume it's a parody. Not good.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

That it hasn't happened again doesn't mean it won't or couldn't, and Cap punching him doesn't absolve him from having done it in the first place. Just like he will always be an alcoholic regardless of how much or little he drinks, he'll always be a wife beater regardless of whether or not he raises his hand to her again.

And I'm pretty sure he's an abusive alcoholic in Ultimates as well as 616.

Anyway...that's my theory as to why we don't get much of Pym in the movie.


Any man can make a mistake ONCE and not be "abusive". He sincerely regretted it afterwards, and tried very hard to make up for it, because even HE knew it was way out of line. But now because of ONE mistake, no one trusts him. If it had happened multiple times, he'd be "abusive" Once just means he's HUMAN. Also, Janet was (maybe still is?) dead after the Age of Ultron storyline in 616, so whether he'd do it again is a moot point. Can't hit a dead person.

Seeing as they're divorced in the mainstream continuity and both dead in the Ultimate universe, I doubt that it'll happen again. Also, he was in a very fragile mental state at the time, and it's a comic book. It's really up to the writers to decide if he's abusive alcoholic or not.

This. I'd forgotten about them being divorced, but I do recall that Janet was killed off a few years ago. Considering comic book death ret-cons, she may be back, but last I saw, Hank was in deep mourning for her, and even took over the persona of Wasp in memory of her for a time.

[ZariusTwo]

Considering comic book death ret-cons, she may be back

She is. Bendis brought Wasp back when he wound down his run. She was hiding in the micro-verse

[Candy Kappa]

One slap, is one slap too many.

[ToTheNines]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=25811

Preview for the Ant-Man prelude comic coming out Wednesday. It's MCU canon and stars Hank Pym on a mission during the Cold War.

[NinjaPug]

Pretty excited to read that.

Rumor (might've been confirmed and I missed it) has it that Atwell is in Ant-Man so hopefully we'll get one of these young Hank Pym missions on screen.

[ToTheNines]

I read that Agent Carter will be in it, but it won't be Atwell. Since Pym was active in the 60's, she would be nearing 50 so they're gonna get an older look alike. It probably saved them a few bucks too.

[TigerClaw]

I read that Agent Carter will be in it, but it won't be Atwell. Since Pym was active in the 60's, she would be nearing 50 so they're gonna get an older look alike. It probably saved them a few bucks too.
There's a comic that's a prequel to the Ant-Man movie, that shows Agent Carter.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114540

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/142/521/original/ant-manprelude1.jpg

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/142/522/original/ant-manprelude2-3.jpg

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/142/523/original/ant-manprelude4.jpg

[NinjaPug]

There's a comic that's a prequel to the Ant-Man movie, that shows Agent Carter.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114540

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/142/521/original/ant-manprelude1.jpg

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/142/522/original/ant-manprelude2-3.jpg

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/142/523/original/ant-manprelude4.jpg


Um, that's exactly what he posted yesterday and what we're talking about.

[ToTheNines]

Nothing much happened in issue #1, but here's the preview #2.... out tomorrow: http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2015/02/preview-of-marvels-ant-man-prelude-2.html

[NinjaPug]

New trailer tomorrow

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[TurtleTitan97]

http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/styles/tout_image_612x380/public/i/2015/04/09/smp-ant-man_0.jpg?itok=BJdCYMGX

[ZariusTwo]

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Forget Spidey, the island of Sodor is part of the MCU:P

[TurtleTitan97]

The new trailer was great! Really looking forward to this.