We have the Power: Boycott Hollywood Trash

[Ultimate Ninja]

Change the world by controlling your money. It is just that simple.

We have the Power: Boycott Hollywood Trash

Look at this:

http://enewsi.com/news.php?catid=190&itemid=26657

Hollywood is at it again, pushing sex and violence. They keep making this trash because people go to see it. So boycott Hollywood's trash movies, and instead watch good movies.

I'm tired of the way Hollywood and the video game industry treats women. I swear I'm going to boycott Hollywood's crap.

James Bond movies are big offenders. Even the women in there are referred to as "Bond girls." They don't have individual identities, they are just there for Bond.

Then there are shows like Manswers, that make men look stupid and women look like objects.

Don't get me started on music. I'm looking at you Prince, you anti-woman pig!

Video games like Dead or Alive show women as something to ogle.

F**k you Hollywood for ruining everyone's lives. You won't get another penny of my money. Who wants to join in boycotting Hollywood's filth?

[Leo656]

Nobody likes a zealot.

Also, Sin City was great and hopefully the sequel will be more of the same. Glad to see it's finally coming out. That poster's pushing it a tiny bit, but there's more skin exposed on prime time network TV nowadays. Hell, the Julia Louis-Dreyfus cover of Rolling Stone was edgier (And may I just say, "Mrowr", to Ms. Louis-Dreyfus, while I'm at it?). "It's society, man."

Prince is a bit of a wacko, but he's terrific at what he does. Nobody forced Appolonia to strip down to her lingerie and inhale all that cocaine, she signed up for it on her own.

If chicks didn't want to be objectified, they wouldn't be so quick to jump in front of a camera half-dressed in exchange for money. I'm a complete chauvanist, and most of my friends are women. They respect that at least I'm honest. I see no problem with any of the things you mentioned. Nobody's being victimized.

Unless Sin City 2 sucks. That'd be a shame. It's a nice poster, though.

[Ultimate Ninja]

Nobody likes a zealot.

Also, Sin City was great and hopefully the sequel will be more of the same. Glad to see it's finally coming out. That poster's pushing it a tiny bit, but there's more skin exposed on prime time network TV nowadays. Hell, the Julia Louis-Dreyfus cover of Rolling Stone was edgier (And may I just say, "Mrowr", to Ms. Louis-Dreyfus, while I'm at it?). "It's society, man."

Prince is a bit of a wacko, but he's terrific at what he does. Nobody forced Appolonia to strip down to her lingerie and inhale all that cocaine, she signed up for it on her own.

If chicks didn't want to be objectified, they wouldn't be so quick to jump in front of a camera half-dressed in exchange for money. I'm a complete chauvanist, and most of my friends are women. They respect that at least I'm honest. I see no problem with any of the things you mentioned. Nobody's being victimized.

Unless Sin City 2 sucks. That'd be a shame. It's a nice poster, though.

You Sir, are part of the problem. You said yourself you're a chauvanist. Entertainment is not harmless. You're no better than a cigarette smoker who is in denial about the harmful impact of smoking. I encourage you to change, but ultimately it is up to you.

Sure, nobody likes a zealot, but at the same time nobody likes the current state of the world. Don't expect change if you won't change yourself. It is like that song Man in the Mirror. Take a look at yourself and make the change.

[Candy Kappa]

A Frank Miller story showcasing sex?

NO WAY!

[The Stryker]

How about you just go away? Don't watch the stuff that offends you so much and shut up?

I do find it amusing that out of all the musicians in the world. The rappers and singers in the limelight nowadays....you go after Prince.


Sure, nobody likes a zealot, but at the same time nobody likes the current state of the world. Don't expect change if you won't change yourself. It is like that song Man in the Mirror. Take a look at yourself and make the change.

I'm cool with it. I'm having fun with movies and television!

Nice reference to Michael Jackson. That guy never referenced sex or did anything weird ever.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

*sigh*

This AGAIN? Just because you don't like seeing Sex and Violence in movies, doesn't mean that Everyone can't see it.

[KirkyMonster]

Seems like they have some valid points and considering you had to read the thread to reply to it I don't see why they should shut up you wanted to know what they had to say when you opened the thread.

I can't understand if you are offended that the poster wasn't used as is or if you are offended by the censorship? Personally I am a little tired of seeing half naked women on advertisements everywhere I go and get tired of being forced to see women in that way whenever I leave the house.

Time and a place for pretty much everything but the constant sex in advertising is like pop up ads to me, you can't help but notice them once they are in front of you and they just keep coming.

[CyberCubed]

Who cares? Are you a soccer Mom?

[Allio]

You know this kind of thinking is worse then "pushing sex or violence." YOU are trying to control; form us, mold us - trying to remove any sense of individuality that we have ... you just want us to be plain and boring

I can respect your opinion, and if you want to spend your money on just the next disney film, then that is all fine and dandy...but don't be going to tell us what we can or cannot do...we are not your children


I will humor you and address many points of your so called "fixing"

Sin City: Have you ever seen the comic, it's loaded with sex and violence, if any of that was taken out of the film it might as well be called "Glory City" and then people will bitch about how it is nothing like the comics

Bond Girls: Unless you have a better idea to classify all the girls that James bond dates - and but bs and say you can name all of the girls by name - then you have no right to say

Dead or Alive: it's called Breast options for a reason...you can have no boobs shake or dead or alive boob shaking (which they go everywhere)..it is still a great game series no matter what


Look, "Ultimate Ninja"

the point is, you are pretty much being a hypocrite...you say you want Hollywood to stop shoving stuff down our throats...you are being a hypocrite by trying to shove down your opinions down our throats...two wrongs do not make a right



Next thing you are going to tell me is that I, as a christian, can not like things like Monster Musume or things like other culture mythologies because "They laugh in the face of God"

[Cure]

Nah, man, I love sex and violence. Just not when it happens to me. Except sex. Sex is cool.

Tittayz.

[Leo656]

You Sir, are part of the problem. You said yourself you're a chauvanist. Entertainment is not harmless. You're no better than a cigarette smoker who is in denial about the harmful impact of smoking. I encourage you to change, but ultimately it is up to you.

Sure, nobody likes a zealot, but at the same time nobody likes the current state of the world. Don't expect change if you won't change yourself. It is like that song Man in the Mirror. Take a look at yourself and make the change.

I'd have to agree that it's a problem, first, and I just don't see it that way.

Hooters never hurt nobody. Except those Fem-Bots in the Austin Powers movie. That's the only time.

I don't go out of my way to demean or degrade women, but I don't idealize 'em or put 'em on a pedestal, either. As far as objectifying 'em, you'd better believe it. Some women are like works of art, and should be appreciated as such. Are we "objectifying" a painting when we stare at it for an hour in a museum to let every little detail sink in? Likewise, if Madonna never wanted anyone to ogle her, she wouldn't have gone through the 80s and half the 90s without any pants.

When I'm paying for entertainment, I want to look at good-looking people. That's me and most people. So? Like you said, if people didn't like it, they wouldn't pay for it. Well, they do, and they do. Free market economy plus freedom of choice. Society votes for More Side-Boob. What, democracy only matters when we're picking the President, not when we're collectively deciding how naked people are allowed to get on posters, or something?

I'unno, dude. Pretty sure it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. And Prince is awesome.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Don't get me started on music. I'm looking at you Prince, you anti-woman pig!

By Prince, I assume you mean the musician?

You might want to rethink what you said, he is a Jehovah's Witness

[Allio]

By Prince, I assume you mean the musician?

You might want to rethink what you said, he is a Jehovah's Witness

Was he the guy I threw my bible at?

[Ultimate Ninja]

I'd have to agree that it's a problem, first, and I just don't see it that way.

Hooters never hurt nobody. Except those Fem-Bots in the Austin Powers movie. That's the only time.

I don't go out of my way to demean or degrade women, but I don't idealize 'em or put 'em on a pedestal, either. As far as objectifying 'em, you'd better believe it. Some women are like works of art, and should be appreciated as such. Are we "objectifying" a painting when we stare at it for an hour in a museum to let every little detail sink in? Likewise, if Madonna never wanted anyone to ogle her, she wouldn't have gone through the 80s and half the 90s without any pants.

When I'm paying for entertainment, I want to look at good-looking people. That's me and most people. So? Like you said, if people didn't like it, they wouldn't pay for it. Well, they do, and they do. Free market economy plus freedom of choice. Society votes for More Side-Boob. What, democracy only matters when we're picking the President, not when we're collectively deciding how naked people are allowed to get on posters, or something?

I'unno, dude. Pretty sure it's not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. And Prince is awesome.

Heh.... well all I have to say is, I told you nothing but the truth and now I'm leaving. :oops:

[Allio]

^it's funny you actually believe this

[Leo656]

I really wanna go watch the video for "Bat-Dance".

[electric_sheep]

I like sex violence and cursing, **** you! also Sin City is my favorite Comic/movie so double **** you...

[chrisdude]

The thing about voting with your dollars is that you don't have to make a fuss.

[Wildcat]

Everybody should just ignore Ultimate Ninja. He wants you guys to disagree so he can push his views on everyone. Pretty obvious he made this topic on purpose. Also because of how his last topic ended.

How hard is it to ignore people on message boards? You know when someone is just being stupid, trying to start an "I'm right, you're wrong" argument.

[Raven]

http://fukaging.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/yeah-well-you-know-thats-just-like-your-opinion-man.jpg?w=604

I personally don't enjoy overly violent, sex filled movies. But some do, and those do sell well (such as the saying "Sex sells"). So until hollywood producers all get saved, with holding your money wont change much.

[Powder]

I like sexy violence & violent sex, the more the merrier.

[Ultimate Ninja]

Everybody should just ignore Ultimate Ninja. He wants you guys to disagree so he can push his views on everyone. Pretty obvious he made this topic on purpose. Also because of how his last topic ended.

How hard is it to ignore people on message boards? You know when someone is just being stupid, trying to start an "I'm right, you're wrong" argument.

I came back to this topic, to reply to you. I don't want people to argue with me. I don't want to create a controversy.

My message is simple: Hollywood is harming our culture. By buying their entertainment, we are contributing to the harm placed on the culture. This makes people less moral and makes them more dangerous. Only stopping the money can change this, so I encourage you to join me in controlling your money. Yes, you should vote with your dollars, or then don't if you disagree with me. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away, but if you don't view the awful content that Hollywood makes as a problem, then by all means keep buying it, and eventually you will watch the culture collapse, and then you may wonder why it happened, when in reality you all contributed to it because you continued to reinforce negative messages, when all you need to do is simply don't spend your money on garbage entertainment. :oops:

[Powder]

If you want to preach, join a church. This isn't the place for it. Hell, you're quite the hypocrite, even. TMNT series' across the generations have had plenty of violence, themes I imagine you'd not approve of, and even sexualized characters.

[Leo656]

I'unno my dude. Been a long time since society advocated crucifixions, beheadings, or boiling people in oil in real life. I mean, we used to do that stuff allll the time, waaaay back before it was all over TV and movies like it is now. Stuff like Spartacus and Game of Thrones gets mad attention, and I don't see anyone calling for any of the stuff depicted in those shows to make a real-life comeback.

Except for sexy bi-curious servant orgies. That stuff needs to make a real-life comeback like yesterday.

Anyways, society's fine. Everyone's getting stupider, but that's not because of too many boobs on TV and movies. Relaaaaax.

I like sexy violence & violent sex, the more the merrier.

:lol: High-five, I lol'd.

[CyberCubed]

This person sounds like a religious Church go-er or something.

It's like Ned Flanders from Simpsons in real life.

[Ultimate Ninja]

If you want to preach, join a church. This isn't the place for it. Hell, you're quite the hypocrite, even. TMNT series' across the generations have had plenty of violence, themes I imagine you'd not approve of, and even sexualized characters.

People in church don't seem to be the ones buying the garbage entertainment. I don't really need to tell them what I'm telling you.


I'unno my dude. Been a long time since society advocated crucifixions, beheadings, or boiling people in oil in real life. I mean, we used to do that stuff all the time, waaaay back before it was all over TV and movies like it is now. Stuff like Spartacus and Game of Thrones gets mad attention, and I don't see anyone calling for any of the stuff depicted in those shows to make a real-life comeback.

Except for sexy bi-curious servant orgies. That stuff needs to make a real-life comeback like yesterday.

Anyways, society's fine. Everyone's getting stupider, but that's not because of too many boobs on TV and movies. Relaaaaax.



:lol: High-five, I lol'd.

So just relax then? Well I hope you're right. I really do. I hope all the bad messages stay on TV and don't influence your thoughts and actions. I really want you to be right. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope you're right.

[Ultimate Ninja]

This person sounds like a religious Church go-er or something.

It's like Ned Flanders from Simpsons in real life.

Thanks man, because I just updated my avatar on this forum. Ned Flanders has it right, at least he seemed to. I haven't watched The Simpsons in awhile.

[ObiWanFan4life]

People in church don't seem to be the ones buying the garbage entertainment. I don't really need to tell them what I'm telling you.




So just relax then? Well I hope you're right. I really do. I hope all the bad messages stay on TV and don't influence your thoughts and actions. I really want you to be right. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope you're right.

I'm not going to waste time and rephrase what others have said, but you're being extremely sanctimonious about this. If you don't like the condition of hollywood today, don't go to the movies and don't come here to complain, your beliefs are falling on deaf ears.

[Leo656]

And even Ned caved in and nailed Mrs. Krabapel. Nobody's morals are air-tight. :lol:

[ObiWanFan4life]

And even Ned caved in and nailed Mrs. Krabapel. Nobody's morals are air-tight. :lol:

Really, when did that happen?

[Raven]

People in church don't seem to be the ones buying the garbage entertainment. I don't really need to tell them what I'm telling you.


A good friend pointed this out to me once when I was having a hard time, pointing out only the sins in a person is not going to make them want to hear you out.

You just can't put your morales and standards on others if they don't believe those to be wrong.

[Leo656]

Really, when did that happen?

Weren't they going out for, like, the last few seasons before Marcia Wallace died?

[Ultimate Ninja]

A good friend pointed this out to me once when I was having a hard time, pointing out only the sins in a person is not going to make them want to hear you out.

You just can't put your morales and standards on others if they don't believe those to be wrong.

True. I believe you're right.

Hey, sorry everybody. I guess what happens in the movies stays in the movies then? I think I made a clown out of myself. *honks my own clown nose and slowly backs away.*

[Cryomancer]

Hollywood movies these days don't even have hardly any sex or violence.

They have "sex appeal" in the form of objectifying the cast sure, but how often does one even see a titty or a dong in a movie these days? Not very often. They want to be PG13, R is scary and NC17 is forbidden, so they have this half-ass thing where they "use" sexuality in a shallow way but not in any sort of meaningful or even explicit way.

Same for violence most of the time. They shoot at dudes and punch people but it's all 1-second cuts in shakycam where no one actually hits anyone and none of the punches really connect or anything. Hell most fight scenes are a large portion or completely CG at this point. I remember everyone talking about Saw as some crazy gory bloodfest and it just...wasn't. There were maybe two scenes where violence actually was shown, the rest was implied, cut away from, or faked in the story itself. And that's how most movies in the past couple decades seem to me.

Anyway my point is don't give Hollywood your money because they are boring. They trick you into thinking they have tits and blood but they don't. Go watch a low budget Japanese flick shot on video with crazy makeup effects and comical use of boobs and have a good time instead. Watch a movie that knows what it is and doesn't pretend to be something beyond it, doesn't insult your intelligence by tricking you with it's flashy nothing.

[Brodie]

And even Ned caved in and nailed Mrs. Krabapel. Nobody's morals are air-tight. :lol:

And then she DIED.

This Ultimate Ninja might be on to something.

If you do things, or enjoy things, you'll DIE.

[Shark_Blade]

**** you for pushing your belief down our throats!

[Turo602]

We should boycott life for having sex, violence, drugs, and alcohol! Who's with me? It's not like people have choices or anything... Let's all be Nazis and work towards a better future, starting with Hollywood.

[CyberCubed]

The scary thing is in real life there are people like this who actually exist. And there are millions of them.

While most are 30 year old Soccer Moms who think they're protecting their children, there are a lot of older males who are like this too. Its almost a parody since you can't believe in today's modern society that people can have such a view.

I mean they're the same age as us, they grew up in the 90's like we did. I can understand our parents generation being like they were, but we grew up in the age of TV, the internet, movies, videogames, etc. How the hell is it possible?

[Netkeeper]

Thanks man, because I just updated my avatar on this forum. Ned Flanders has it right, at least he seemed to. I haven't watched The Simpsons in awhile.
http://i.imgur.com/poe6pTX.gif

[Ultimate Ninja]

The scary thing is in real life there are people like this who actually exist. And there are millions of them.

While most are 30 year old Soccer Moms who think they're protecting their children, there are a lot of older males who are like this too. Its almost a parody since you can't believe in today's modern society that people can have such a view.

I mean they're the same age as us, they grew up in the 90's like we did. I can understand our parents generation being like they were, but we grew up in the age of TV, the internet, movies, videogames, etc. How the hell is it possible?

Let me tell you something. I was skirting around the issue. Here is why I made this topic:

I see a lot of bad sh*t on the news. I see a lot of bad sh*t in movies and in fake TV shows. So I started putting two and two together, and came to the deluded conclusion that maybe, just maybe, the bad sh*t in the movies was reinforcing the bad people in real life. So I got p*ssed off, and I made this topic to rant against Hollywood.

Now, that said, I realize that the majority of people who watch bad movies are okay people, and they don't do stuff that they see in a movie. I realize that most people are basically sane, or I hope they are, and that only a crazy person would actually blur the line between reality and fantasy.

I get scared when I watch the news. I used this message board as a forum to vent. I obviously scapegoated Hollywood. It isn't Hollywood's fault I guess.

I sincerely apologize to everyone I offended. I was irrational. If I don't like some movies, then I don't have to watch them.

I just want a more peaceful and tolerant world, and when people use bad movies as entertainment, it disturbs me. I can't figure out why something bad would be used as a source of joy for someone, even if that bad content is fake and produced in a Hollywood studio, but hey, I guess that is my problem that I don't understand other people and I need to stop thinking about it.

Edit: It was a bad idea to make this topic. I approached it from an irrational viewpoint. I obviously made a lot of people angry. I'm sorry I offended people here and I'm sorry for wasting your time. I don't know what else to say, other than I'm young and I have unrealistic hopes and dreams and ideas and that I guess I'm an irrational person. :(

[Netkeeper]

Yes, the news is infuriating and depressing to watch, but the easy solution to this is to just not turn on the news. I hate it myself so I refuse to expose myself to it.

Also, liking media that has portrayals of illegal, immoral, or otherwise disgraceful activity doesn't mean one supports that action. If that were true everyone that likes Breaking Bad would have a meth lab. This is like, elementary level ****. Common sense. Of course most people that watch bad movies/bad television are decent people, because most people are decent.

I still think you're trolling, though.

[Ultimate Ninja]

Yes, the news is infuriating and depressing to watch, but the easy solution to this is to just not turn on the news. I hate it myself so I refuse to expose myself to it.

Also, liking media that has portrayals of illegal, immoral, or otherwise disgraceful activity doesn't mean one supports that action. If that were true everyone that likes Breaking Bad would have a meth lab. This is like, elementary level ****. Common sense. Of course most people that watch bad movies/bad television are decent people, because most people are decent.

I still think you're trolling, though.

Thank you for your reply. I think I suffer from depression and I don't know what I am supposed to be yet (in that I don't know what the correct world view is I guess). What is real morality?

I'm sorry. I hope everyone accepts my apology. Please don't speak cruelly to me (not you, but anyone else on here). I guess I'm just weak and I need to grow up and man up.

[arkangel]

Just woke up from a nap. I was having a bad dream that I was trapped in an Ultimate Ninja alternate universe where there was no violence, sex, or course language in any movies or tv shows. No bond films, no good video games, and no side boob.

[Ultimate Ninja]

Just woke up from a nap. I was having a bad dream that I was trapped in an Ultimate Ninja alternate universe where there was no violence, sex, or course language in any movies or tv shows. No bond films, no good video games, and no side boob.

Yeah, that would be bad, huh? I guess I wanted to get rid of entertainment. Sorry about that, it really wasn't my intention. :ohwell:

[Netkeeper]

Thank you for your reply. I think I suffer from depression and I don't know what I am supposed to be yet (in that I don't know what the correct world view is I guess). What is real morality?

I'm sorry. I hope everyone accepts my apology. Please don't speak cruelly to me (not you, but anyone else on here). I guess I'm just weak and I need to grow up and man up.
I believe I'm currently suffering from a mild form of depression myself. And as someone that used to be suffering from a much more threatening form of it? Let me tell you that the pity-fishing in your posts isn't doing you any favours. Keep your emotions in check and don't post when you're heavily emotionally compromised.

[ZariusTwo]

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[pennydreadful]

Uh... I'm not really sure what to add to this except that Netkeeper and Ultimate, I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch with depression - don't be ashamed to ask for help if you need it, and remember that you're valuable and worthwhile people, kay? In fact, that goes for all of y'all.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5wks2ebPd1r4my8ko1_500.gif

[electric_sheep]

Thank you for your reply. I think I suffer from depression and I don't know what I am supposed to be yet (in that I don't know what the correct world view is I guess). What is real morality?

I'm sorry. I hope everyone accepts my apology. Please don't speak cruelly to me (not you, but anyone else on here). I guess I'm just weak and I need to grow up and man up.

That still doesen't change the fact that you are a douche...
I am an asshole so of course i am gonna insult you, you are a moron and your "depresion" doesen't chage that. You basicly told us that all the movies that we like are bad and that we are idiots for liking them, **** you dude...
I ****ing hate whiny emo tenagers..
Also i can help you cure depresion, don't be depresed, BOOM! cured, worked for me...

[PAAATE]

Violence (fictional or otherwise) has always existed with or without Hollywood. By assuming that people have violent impulses just because of entertainment, you're assuming that we're all somehow brainless sheep who can't think for ourselves.

Violence in fiction exists as a way to make sense of the world. Not as a way to manipulate it. Very few people actually want actual violence to exist IRL.

And regarding the news... You know, you don't have to watch. I stopped watching the news when I realized that they aren't really enriching my life in any way whatsoever. You don't have to be ignorant, but you don't need to watch the "247 people died today in an explosion in Conflict Land" either.

And someone should really do something about Conflict Land. Such a stupid name to begin with.

And your assumption that there is such a thing as a correct world-view... Well, our world-view depends on our experiences, since it's an objective view, so there is no correct world-view.

The closest you can come to a correct and healthy world-view, if you ask me, would be "As long as people aren't hurting each other, anything goes. As long as no one's getting hurt, none of it matters" and add to that "I shouldn't be stressed out about things I can't change" such as violence, which will always exist. Violence won't decrease, but it won't escalate either. You getting stressed out over it will only bring you down, not violence.

[BubblyShell22]

I don't watch the news at all because I just don't care anymore. I do get the weather on my local news and then I change the channel because I just don't want to hear such horrible things that happen to people. But that's life. You just avoid that. Same goes with movies. If you don't like the violence or sex, then don't watch them. They have ratings for a reason, and you can always see the movies that appeal to you and skip the ones you don't. That's what I do, and it works. That goes for TV shows, too. Hell, there were some brief sex scenes in Chicago Fire, and I didn't care. I love that show. There's violence in the show Gang Related, but I love it. That doesn't mean I'm going to go out with a gun and off people. It's all about perspective. The people who commit violent crimes are normally twisted in the head. The media just likes to blame things like movies and video games because they need a scapegoat as to why a person could do such a thing. "Oh, they murdered people. They had to be playing Grand Theft Auto." Just ridiculous, BS.

[Allio]

Yeah, cause Bad people can be bad to begin with...

[Ultimate Ninja]

Uh... I'm not really sure what to add to this except that Netkeeper and Ultimate, I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch with depression - don't be ashamed to ask for help if you need it, and remember that you're valuable and worthwhile people, kay? In fact, that goes for all of y'all.

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Thanks Penny. That is a nice turtles hug too. I appreciate it. :) Thank you. I'm doing fine now. I kind of worked out my issues in my mind, if that makes sense.


Netkeeper, thanks for the advice too and I wish you the best.

As for everyone else, interesting thoughts, and a special thanks to those who didn't cuss at me or get aggressive, even though some of you did, but you know what? I probably deserved it, I guess. I don't recommended trying that with other people though. Sorry for the drama, I was having issues and I'm okay now, but still I'm embarrassed by my message board behavior. With the exception of editing or deleting a post or posts, it is all in the past now.

[CyberCubed]

I bet Ultimate Ninja is against gay or lesbian kissing in movies or TV too.

[Cure]

Don't be an asshole, he apologized. Let it go.

[Netkeeper]

Uh... I'm not really sure what to add to this except that Netkeeper and Ultimate, I'm sorry you're going through a rough patch with depression - don't be ashamed to ask for help if you need it, and remember that you're valuable and worthwhile people, kay? In fact, that goes for all of y'all.

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Thanks. I'm not in as bad a mental shape as I was a couple years ago, my depression has certainly shoved itself into the background and isn't as debilitating as it used to be, so I know things will continue to improve.

Also i can help you cure depresion, don't be depresed, BOOM! cured, worked for me...
Also, unfortunately conditions such as depression don't always work that way. In fact, they almost never work that way. Most people cannot just will their depression to disappear; if that were possible, we wouldn't be having depressed people, because having depression sucks all the joy out of you, makes you incredibly tired all the time, and kills your motivation for everything. It disrupts your life.

[Machias Banshee]

As much as I am fine with you guys discussing your depression issues... I don't want this to become a flame fest for the earlier postings. :ohwell: