Is the Nick cartoon covering every mainstream villain in TMNT history?

[CyberCubed]

I was just thinking about how by the end of Season 2, the Nick cartoon will have covered almost all the mainstream TMNT villains in the past 30 years:

- Shredder
- Foot Soldiers/bots
- Karai
- Baxter (human, in robot suit, and fly)
- Mousers
- Leatherhead
- The Rat King
- Metalhead
- Slash
- Bebop
- Rocksteady
- Rahzar
- Kraang Prime (Krang)
- The Kraang (evil version of the Utroms)
- Traag
- Mutagen Man


The only omissions are the Triceratons (coming in Season 3), and Tokka...but he might not be used as there's no need for another evil turtle. Hun is the only other mainstream villain since he broke into both Mirage and IDW after 4kids. I'd like to include Bishop to but he's only been in one series so far.

Honestly if they would just introduce Hun in Season 3 I'd think every series would be represented except for some Archie villains like Armaggon or Null.

[Shark_Blade]

Hun was so dull and boring in 2k3, if Nick decides to introduce him I hope he's at least a bit interesting.

And I never see the appeal of Bishop, he seems like an uninspiring copycat of the Matrix's Agent Smith.

But sure, if Nick wants to, I have faith they can at least make them appealing.

[snake]

Seems like it. I hope Bishop appears.

[CyberCubed]

Hun was so dull and boring in 2k3, if Nick decides to introduce him I hope he's at least a bit interesting.

Hun has the best personality and backstory with Casey Jones. I don't see how he's boring since Chris Bradford before he got mutated was basically the same character with a different design.

And I never see the appeal of Bishop, he seems like an uninspiring copycat of the Matrix's Agent Smith.

You don't see the appeal of a shady government agent who wants to protect the Earth from aliens, sees the Turtles as a threat, is a rival to Shredder, and has lived for 200 years through genetic manipulation? This is in addition to the fact that he's an excellent fighter.

[snake]

I never liked Hun, I thought he was too boring. I liked his look but that was about it, and I love him in IDW.

[Technogeek29]

Hun was so dull and boring in 2k3, if Nick decides to introduce him I hope he's at least a bit interesting.

And I never see the appeal of Bishop, he seems like an uninspiring copycat of the Matrix's Agent Smith.

But sure, if Nick wants to, I have faith they can at least make them appealing.

Your not wrong that is what they were going for. Besides paraody is what TMNT os known for the OT is a prime example of 80's Saturday cartoons.

[snake]

Your not wrong that is what they were going for. Besides paraody is what TMNT os known for the OT is a prime example of 80's Saturday cartoons.

I actually found Bishops "Agent Smith" look to him part of his appeal.

[Retro-Specs]

I still have a lot of unfamiliarity with the 2003 series, honestly. But now that I think of it, having Hun show up would be interesting. Let's say the three Purple Dragons of this series - which have been used as comic relief just as often as they are a threat - decide to call on a leader from a different branch of their gang or something. Like some vendetta that gets established between them and the turtles, and they need more power behind them to settle the score.

I just wonder what they could do with the character. Nick has a pretty strong track record of tweaking or outright changing characters from the previous series (looking at you, Bebop and Rocksteady), so I really wonder what sort of treatment Hun would get.

But I'm also anxious to see how the Triceratons will be treated, and what other classic TMNT villains and allies will show up as the series progresses. I think the next "big" thing will be Karai mutating, probably before Zeck and Steranko get mutated. I wager she will become an established character, like Ninjara or Alopex, and likely before season 2 ends.

[Electric]

Is be happy getting both Hun and bishop.

Hun, for starters, could really amp up the purple dragons, who are pretty weak at the moment. And it'd be another human working for shredder.

With bishop, I always liked how it was a totally different enemy for the turtles, fighting government agents, as opposed to thugs or ninjas. Also like how he was sort of and enemey of shredders too

[pingclang]

I would love to see Hun. He was just muscle for Shredder to sic on any threats and he led the Purple Dragons, helming the crime elements of the Foot. Sounds like a great character to me.

Is be happy getting both Hun and bishop.

Hun, for starters, could really amp up the purple dragons, who are pretty weak at the moment. And it'd be another human working for shredder.

With bishop, I always liked how it was a totally different enemy for the turtles, fighting government agents, as opposed to thugs or ninjas. Also like how he was sort of and enemey of shredders too

That's a great idea! Hun taking over and really turning the Purple Dragons into a serious threat would make for some awesome story.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I actually want Bishop in the series. I havn't been reading the official info thread, so I don't know if he has been announced already.

Bishop is such a good villian that he could be the main antagonist for an entire season.

[MrTMNT2012]

Hun has always been of my favourite TMNT Villains! Would love to see him back.

Though at this point...Miyamoto Usagi is still my #1 wish for the show!

[pennydreadful]

Agreed - I'd love to see Hun brought in, and to make the Purple Dragons more of a threat.

[CyberCubed]

Just as long as Hun doesn't become another goddamn mutant.

The reason I want Hun is also because he would be another human villain.

[MisfitKraang]

I hope to see Hun and bishop in the new series.However I really want to see Tokka he's one of my faves and I just feel if we have Rahzar we need Tokka they don't have to be paired up, I really just want him there:D

[Coola Yagami]

Given this show's luck Hun might be Tokka.

[NinjaPug]

I'd like to see Hun but Shredder already has too many henchman. Maybe if he led his own faction and wasn't connected to the Foot at all.

[CyberCubed]

I'd like to see Hun but Shredder already has too many henchman. Maybe if he led his own faction and wasn't connected to the Foot at all.

Hun taking charge of the Purple Dragons or working with Bebop/Rocksteady would be ideal.

Come to think of it they may make Hun into Casey's father in this show like the IDW series did.

[NinjaPug]

Hun taking charge of the Purple Dragons or working with Bebop/Rocksteady would be ideal.

Come to think of it they may make Hun into Casey's father in this show like the IDW series did.

I'd be cool with that if there was a feud between them and Shredder / Foot.

[Cryomancer]

Bishop owns a lot and I would be happy to see him break the "one version" barrier. I'd also like to see him being voiced by Jeffrey Combs, but he's already Rat King. Show would really need to close down a few arcs/strings first though in my opinion.

I wonder if they will go fairly straight Mirage for Triceratons, aka have them going into space, Fugitoid and all that. Maybe they could do something like the Neutrino war from IDW at the same time.

Would not be opposed to some Archie villains showing up. Tiger Claw already sort of shares some traits with Verminator-X.

[Cure]

Hun was so dull and boring in 2k3, if Nick decides to introduce him I hope he's at least a bit interesting.

And I never see the appeal of Bishop, he seems like an uninspiring copycat of the Matrix's Agent Smith.



I agree with this, which is why I hope they stay far away from this show unless they get a major overhaul. All 2003 original villains were dumb in my opinion.

[Coola Yagami]

They need new bad guys not related and not eventually siding with shredder. Just someone all new.

[Cryomancer]

I'm not sure it's entirely fair to call Bishop a Smith ripoff. He's obviously inspired by the Matrix, at least in his combat style, but both Bishop and Smith are both based around the concept of the shadowy government agent Man in Black. They have the same pop culture root, and part of that root is being nondescript.

[Metalwolf]

Just as long as Hun doesn't become another goddamn mutant.

The reason I want Hun is also because he would be another human villain.This. I just want more human villains. We have enough mutants (Tigerclaw, Rahzar, Fishface and Baxterfly) and I'm bummed that Bebop is set in stone to become mutated. He's such a cool guy as he already is, and human Sterenko looks like he could become a major thorn in Shredder's side because he's rich and he has connections (since he's a black market arms dealer.)

Plus the whole 'everybody gets turned into a mutant' thing is now gotting old pretty fast, and soon it will feel like NYC is nothing but mutants.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

All 2003 original villains were dumb in my opinion.

And the 1987 and 2012 villains aren't? I personally prefer Hun over Rocksteady and Bebop since he is smart, competent, and is an actual match for the turtles. And you can not go wrong with Agent Bishop. He's the type of enemy the turtles need.

[Powder]

I agree with this, which is why I hope they stay far away from this show unless they get a major overhaul. All 2003 original villains were dumb in my opinion.

This for sure.

[CyberCubed]

All the 2k3 villains were mostly good, like Hun and Bishop.

The only really bad ones were the filler-centric villains, like Garbageman or other one/two-offs. I'm also rather fond of the Ultimate Ninja/Draco.

[Cure]

And the 1987 and 2012 villains aren't?

No...that's...the point I was making. Genius over here.

[Chris]

Might get some flack for this but I'd like to see Dragon Lord and the Rank get another shot. They had a lot of potential that wasn't realised in TNM.

[pennydreadful]

Might get some flack for this but I'd like to see Dragon Lord and the Rank get another shot. They had a lot of potential that wasn't realised in TNM.

You won't get any flack from me; if done seriously, it could be really interesting. :) I don't know that a Dragon Lord who still wants to eat the Turtles would be well-received though...

[rickwj324]

Might get some flack for this but I'd like to see Dragon Lord and the Rank get another shot. They had a lot of potential that wasn't realised in TNM.

Chris...I would love to see Dragon Lord as a villain on the Nick toon!! I'm sure their version would be awesome.

Rick