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victory_angel
06-16-2014, 12:59 AM
I don't have a pic for this.

However at the book launch for "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Ultimate Visual History" at the Cartoon Art Museum. There was one wall that had concept art for various characters. Most of these characters are ones we know of such as Leatherhead, Ratking, BaxterFly, Casey Jones, ect... But there was one I haven't seen before known as "Creep". I'm sorry I don't have a picture, but it's likely we will hear more about this character come Comic Con next month.

But what I can say about it is a new villain from the looks of things. And the only way I can describe this villain his it looks like an 8-9 foot tall humanoid pile of fertalizer.

Powder
06-16-2014, 01:11 AM
Why didn't you take pics?

victory_angel
06-16-2014, 01:51 AM
Camera has a dying battery so I left it at home.

And believe you me, I did try looking for the same concept art online. As it hasn't been posted, I don't want to be sited for leaking an image that is not meant to be seen yet. But like I said, we should begin to know more about this character once Comic con rolls around.

Netkeeper
06-16-2014, 01:58 AM
it looks like an 8-9 foot tall humanoid pile of fertalizer.
Charming. Dare I ask why it's called "Creep"?

victory_angel
06-16-2014, 02:18 AM
I don't really know, aside from the fact the thing looks ungodly. But it's likely it's another plant based villain of some sort. Maybe a cross between crap and reaper.

TurFlytle
06-16-2014, 04:44 AM
I don't really know, aside from the fact the thing looks ungodly. But it's likely it's another plant based villain of some sort. Maybe a cross between crap and reaper.

Mikey must have run out of ideas naming that.

IndigoErth
06-16-2014, 05:16 AM
And the only way I can describe this villain his it looks like an 8-9 foot tall humanoid pile of fertalizer.

Just reminded me of this, saw this page last night... The first one.. Maybe?
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Top-5-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Action-Figures-/10000000178608720/g.html

Or I'm totally off, but who knows.

Edit..
http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Muckman
He also made a slight appearance in the 2012 episode Invasion of the Squirrelanoids on a poster on Mikey's wall in his room.
Hah. Now I'm curious.

victory_angel
06-16-2014, 01:20 PM
Just reminded me of this, saw this page last night... The first one.. Maybe?
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Top-5-Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Action-Figures-/10000000178608720/g.html

Or I'm totally off, but who knows.

Edit..
http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Muckman

Hah. Now I'm curious.


I thought muck man myself at first. But it's more like a walking pile of soil or fertilizer wearing overalls. He isn't hunched over like Muck man is, and he is at least two feet taller then Donnie.

IndigoErth
06-16-2014, 01:59 PM
I thought muck man myself at first. But it's more like a walking pile of soil or fertilizer wearing overalls. He isn't hunched over like Muck man is, and he is at least two feet taller then Donnie.
o.O lol Well that will be interesting to see when/if it turns up.

AT-Man
06-16-2014, 02:00 PM
And the only way I can describe this villain his it looks like an 8-9 foot tall humanoid pile of fertalizer.

"You know what's buuullll fertilizer?!"

http://cinemassacre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/BS.jpg

kelligrafie
06-16-2014, 03:24 PM
Maybe it's Snakeweed double mutated.

Or.

There's a new guy in the next episode who gets his body switched with a pigeon during a KRaang operation. It's the Raphael switching with a Kraang one.

Now I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I've never seen that guy before. Or at least, I don't think it's a background generic. And I can't see why they would create a brand new (human) guy for one episode, when they've got all the generics that would've served that purpose perfectly.

Maybe this guy is meant for grime-ier prospects.

blindturtle02
06-16-2014, 03:40 PM
Hmm, I wonder if it's going to be a separate character from Snakeweed. I imagine he'll come into play somehow since this thing is a walking pile of fertilizer. We haven't seen him for ages, so hopefully he'll fit into a story or two regarding this guy. Or yeah, I suppose he could be double mutated Snakeweed. Hoping it's a separate character though. Thanks for the heads up, VA.

snake
06-16-2014, 03:43 PM
Neat. I actually have a few Unused Nick concept art pics I found off tumblr. I'll look through them.

IndigoErth
06-16-2014, 03:48 PM
Come to think of it, interesting point... The guys rescued those people in that one episode that Snakeweed was supposedly going to be using as fertilizer.

Either that or Snakeweed has started decomposing... lol

victory_angel
06-16-2014, 03:53 PM
Actually the guy in switched with the pigeon is one of the generic guys in the background.

Observe http://screencapped.net/tv/tmnt/albums/userpics/10002/S204_0589.jpg

Ashwolf
06-16-2014, 04:04 PM
bit off topic but the guy in the dude magazine looks a lot like anton

IndigoErth
06-16-2014, 04:08 PM
bit off topic but the guy in the dude magazine looks a lot like anton
Heh, thought the same. Nick, are you hiding clues on us..?

Powder
06-16-2014, 10:15 PM
Heh, thought the same. Nick, are you hiding clues on us..?

Maybe! There's a black & white anthropomorphic cat on something hanging at the mag stand... I do recall there being one scratching Mikey's shell in season one. Perhaps it will be mutated?

Electric
06-16-2014, 11:47 PM
The first thing I thought of when I saw this was Karai, which would be awful:tlol:
Really doubt it's that, just thought of it due to the whole "1 more mutant" and "mutated Karai action figure"

Metalwolf
06-17-2014, 01:05 AM
Ugh, 'Creep' just sounds like another one of those lame MOTW guys that folks are getting sick of. The whole concept just sounds awful.

victory_angel
06-17-2014, 09:40 PM
One thing I can sort of share is an image I found in the TMNT: The Ultimate visual history.

It's a concept art image of what sort of changes the Turtles are going to undergo once they evacuate the city and are forced to live in the woods.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/Jahumlie/Jahumlie007/100_5459_zps8728a5ed.jpg


According to the concept art it says the Turtles would be undergoing a vision quest that would encourage them to forge new weapons for themselves and also confront their deepest fears. They are also going to have connection to an element.

It's not going to be like the Turtles are suddenly going to get the ability to bend elements, sorry Avatar fans.

Each of the turtles has taken to wear a hood or cloak of some sort. Except for Mikey who has taken to wearing a bandanna that covers the upper portion of his face alla the Turtle Tots from 2k3.

Raph is connected with fire, and seems to have a tube that shoots fire that comes out from the wrappings around his wrist. His mask looks like it covers his head much like Mikey's does. However it hangs down the sides of his face like Wolverine's mask does. His new weapons are a Tagaki, which are a set of hand held Wolverine type claws.

Leo is connected with wind. His mask is normal, but in he has a cloak that hoods over his head and wraps around his upper body. Unlike his brothers he still carries his trademark weapons, his swords. However instead of carrying them holstered on the back if his shell. He carries them at his side like a Samurai carries his swords. He also is armed with a bo and arrow.

Donnie and Mikey seem to be both connected the element of Earth. As they both have corollary elements.

Then again in Asia the elements of Earth, Air, Fire, & Water are depicted as Fire, Wood, Metal, Earth, Water.

Wood at times being connected to wind.

Donnie is connected to the Mountains which could indicate a connection to the element of earth, or the element of metal. We wears a hooded cloak like he is in the story board. Donnie no longer has his eye mask but he wears a skull like mask that is similar to Casey Jones mask, except his is made of stone. He also has white stripes painted on his arms, legs and possibly his body, as a type of camouflage. Donne also welds a hammer and an Ono Ax.

Mikey is connected to forest so by that regard he is connected to the element of wood. He has a mask that covers the whole top of his head, he also has leafy green camouflage on his face. Unlike his brothers he doesn't have a cloak or a hood, but sode (spalders) teko (gauntlet) and Kogake (Sabatons) that look as though they are made from tree bark. He also no longer carries his Nunchucks but Kama sickles.

IndigoErth
06-17-2014, 09:54 PM
Well this should be interesting if they use it. :o

Curious about that Casey-like mask given their rivalry. Good boy, Leo, don't leave the blades behind.

snake
06-17-2014, 09:57 PM
That's cool. I like the serious tone those drawings give off. They don't feel like their trying too hard to be 'edgy' or anything like that.

Powder
06-17-2014, 10:06 PM
According to the concept art it says the Turtles would be undergoing a vision quest that would encourage them to forge new weapons for themselves and also confront their deepest fears.

You know who made them do that? In the OT, Creepy Eddie, a parody of Freddy Kreuger. Who was Freddy played by? Robert Englund, who is voicing a role in season 3. Who? CREEP, I BET.

MYSTERY SOLVED. :D

IndigoErth
06-17-2014, 10:26 PM
You know who made them do that? In the OT, Creepy Eddie, a parody of Freddy Kreuger. Who was Freddy played by? Robert Englund, who is voicing a role in season 3. Who? CREEP, I BET.

MYSTERY SOLVED. :D

o.O My god.

Totally perfect pic exists for this...
http://static.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/521fe80ae4b02fc40df55eb6/1377822732912/tmnt-party-wagon-and-mystery-machine-geek-art-vans-header.jpg


If Leo's deepest fear is losing the others... if they all have to do this alone, poor guy. He's gonna worry the entire time. (Or maybe find the control not to?)

pennydreadful
06-17-2014, 10:41 PM
You know who made them do that? In the OT, Creepy Eddie, a parody of Freddy Kreuger. Who was Freddy played by? Robert Englund, who is voicing a role in season 3. Who? CREEP, I BET.

MYSTERY SOLVED. :D

You're probably onto something there... victory, thanks for sharing, that was mega-awesome! :D:D:D

Chaotix12345
06-17-2014, 10:56 PM
Ooooh, I hope they use those alternate costumes in the actual show, because they look SICK! I'd love to have figures of them. :)

Also, if through some twist of fate, the villain IS a rebooted Creepy Eddie with Freddy's actual voice but none of the obvious NoES influence, I want to see Paul Reubens return to voice THE OGG, an intergalactic parasite that deafens you and causes reality to start collapsing. :lol:

BabyTurtles
06-17-2014, 10:57 PM
One thing I can sort of share is an image I found in the TMNT: The Ultimate visual history.

It's a concept art image of what sort of changes the Turtles are going to undergo once they evacuate the city and are forced to live in the woods.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/Jahumlie/Jahumlie007/100_5459_zps8728a5ed.jpg


According to the concept art it says the Turtles would be undergoing a vision quest that would encourage them to forge new weapons for themselves and also confront their deepest fears. They are also going to have connection to an element.

It's not going to be like the Turtles are suddenly going to get the ability to bend elements, sorry Avatar fans.

Each of the turtles has taken to wear a hood or cloak of some sort. Except for Mikey who has taken to wearing a bandanna that covers the upper portion of his face alla the Turtle Tots from 2k3.

Raph is connected with fire, and seems to have a tube that shoots fire that comes out from the wrappings around his wrist. His mask looks like it covers his head much like Mikey's does. However it hangs down the sides of his face like Wolverine's mask does. His new weapons are a Tagaki, which are a set of hand held Wolverine type claws.

Leo is connected with wind. His mask is normal, but in he has a cloak that hoods over his head and wraps around his upper body. Unlike his brothers he still carries his trademark weapons, his swords. However instead of carrying them holstered on the back if his shell. He carries them at his side like a Samurai carries his swords. He also is armed with a bo and arrow.

Donnie and Mikey seem to be both connected the element of Earth. As they both have corollary elements.

Then again in Asia the elements of Earth, Air, Fire, & Water are depicted as Fire, Wood, Metal, Earth, Water.

Wood at times being connected to wind.

Donnie is connected to the Mountains which could indicate a connection to the element of earth, or the element of metal. We wears a hooded cloak like he is in the story board. Donnie no longer has his eye mask but he wears a skull like mask that is similar to Casey Jones mask, except his is made of stone. He also has white stripes painted on his arms, legs and possibly his body, as a type of camouflage. Donne also welds a hammer and an Ono Ax.

Mikey is connected to forest so by that regard he is connected to the element of wood. He has a mask that covers the whole top of his head, he also has leafy green camouflage on his face. Unlike his brothers he doesn't have a cloak or a hood, but sode (spalders) teko (gauntlet) and Kogake (Sabatons) that look as though they are made from tree bark. He also no longer carries his Nunchucks but Kama sickles.

what the heck is going on next season??? O_o????

victory_angel
06-17-2014, 11:05 PM
You know who made them do that? In the OT, Creepy Eddie, a parody of Freddy Kreuger. Who was Freddy played by? Robert Englund, who is voicing a role in season 3. Who? CREEP, I BET.

MYSTERY SOLVED. :D

I don't know if it is Creepy Eddie specifically as he is an obscure character even for the OT. But it may be someone inspired by that character.

Since the Turtles are going to be having vision quests, I think it will be like Fungus Humongous, but more psychological. I know the Nick show doesn't really like entertaining the notion of multipart episodes, but if the Turtles are taking vision quests. They are going to need to go to different locations and learn to survive on their own.

Without Splinter and with out their brothers.

So a good way to do this is have one episode focused on Leo and his journey. Then next weeks episode will focus on Donnie, then Raph, Then Mikey. And creep could be an entity that appears and tries to get them to fail on their journeys. Cause them to doubt themselves and drive them towards their demise.

pennydreadful
06-17-2014, 11:10 PM
I don't know if it is Creepy Eddie specifically as he is an obscure character even for the OT. But it may be someone inspired by that character.

I think we're definitely on the right track though - odds are they'll probably do their own version of the character, like the way they revamped The Rat King.

I mean, this:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56/slimer2erasmus/Screencaps/nlair17.jpg

makes it pretty hard for me to think that Englund could be voicing anyone else - we know that Ciro & co. love putting in nods to all facets of TMNT history.

Ashwolf
06-17-2014, 11:39 PM
all that looks so awesome!!!

in a way, seems like they r mixing in parts from the tribunal eps considering how in those eps, each fang of the dragon king weapon had some sort of element mixed in w/ it

Powder
06-18-2014, 12:00 AM
I don't know if it is Creepy Eddie specifically as he is an obscure character even for the OT. But it may be someone inspired by that character.

Pigeon Pete, Muckman, need I say more? :tlol: The creative team consists of hardcore turtle fans, so anything is possible!

Universal_Adam
06-18-2014, 12:14 AM
I believe THIS is the character you are referring to...
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk155/bewarethecreeper4/TheCreep.jpg (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/bewarethecreeper4/media/TheCreep.jpg.html)

victory_angel
06-18-2014, 12:19 AM
Yep, that it. Looks like Donnie has another person to grab his face.

Zulithe
06-18-2014, 12:32 AM
Looks like they mixed Swamp Thing (or Groot) with Jason from Friday the 13th

Electric
06-18-2014, 12:32 AM
This is just awesome! I can't wait for the turtles to leave New York!

The fact that the show is changing up like this makes me so excited for seaoson 3.

With the creep, "episode 301" so that means the finale of this season will have the turtles fleeing. Also really want to know how he got Casey's mask

IndigoErth
06-18-2014, 12:37 AM
Yep, that it. Looks like Donnie has another person to grab his face.
lol Beat me to saying so.

Interesting stuff ahead for sure. Thanks for sharing these pics guys.

Universal_Adam
06-18-2014, 12:38 AM
The Creep's Non-Masked face reminds me of an updated Muckman. In fact, I'd be very surprised if Mikey didn't refer to him as 'Muckman' at some point.

Ashwolf
06-18-2014, 12:39 AM
This is just awesome! I can't wait for the turtles to leave New York!

The fact that the show is changing up like this makes me so excited for seaoson 3.

With the creep, "episode 301" so that means the finale of this season will have the turtles fleeing. Also really want to know how he got Casey's mask

season 3 might involve casey disappearing somehow

IndigoErth
06-18-2014, 12:45 AM
season 3 might involve casey disappearing somehow
*looks at Donnie suspiciously*

Powder
06-18-2014, 01:14 AM
There's no way that's not who Robert Englund is playing. Sick design!

pennydreadful
06-18-2014, 01:19 AM
Yep, that it. Looks like Donnie has another person to grab his face.

Poor Donnie... his face just can't catch a break! :lol:

IndigoErth
06-18-2014, 01:22 AM
Does make me eager for the next Karai episodes to see where that leaves her in this storyline, if they all possibly leave the city together and if it's partly (fully?) because of her. :thyper: (No tells please if that magic book has everything.. lol)

victory_angel
06-18-2014, 01:37 AM
Does make me eager for the next Karai episodes to see where that leaves her in this storyline, if they all possibly leave the city together and if it's partly (fully?) because of her. :thyper: (No tells please if that magic book has everything.. lol)

I doubt they'd put it in the book if it spoiled anything.

Chaotix12345
06-18-2014, 03:22 AM
Upon viewing those leaked Apritello storyboards again, I see Donnie has a hooded cape in them like his new costume. Looks like THOSE might be legit as well like the Karai ones, unsurprisingly.

pennydreadful
06-18-2014, 03:47 AM
I've gotta say, I love all the nerd and pop culture references that go into this show - it gives me a happy. :D

So with the "Show 301" at the top of Creep's concept art, do you think this means that they originally intended for him to show up in the first episode of season three?

victory_angel
06-18-2014, 03:59 AM
I've gotta say, I love all the nerd and pop culture references that go into this show - it gives me a happy. :D

So with the "Show 301" at the top of Creep's concept art, do you think this means that they originally intended for him to show up in the first episode of season three?

Possibly, there was talk about the season ending on a cliff hanger.

NinjaPug
06-18-2014, 06:55 AM
I've gotta say, I love all the nerd and pop culture references that go into this show - it gives me a happy. :D

So with the "Show 301" at the top of Creep's concept art, do you think this means that they originally intended for him to show up in the first episode of season three?

Yes, that means he will debut in episode 301.

Kinda cool that they're going to end the season with the Turtles fleeing the city.

MrTMNT2012
06-18-2014, 07:08 AM
Season 3 and the Season 2 Finale is looking better and better! :)

Those are some SICK designs. :D

Metalwolf
06-18-2014, 07:11 AM
I'm going to change what I said earlier. Creep looks so cool :o :D

And those new Turtle designs are AWESOME :D

Netkeeper
06-18-2014, 08:07 AM
I want to like those designs, because from an artistic standpoint they do look really cool, but...

What the ****?

Fourcylinder
06-18-2014, 09:04 AM
I am ok with the new designs, as long as they don't become permanent. I just don't see the need to drastically change them so much. I know Ciro said this would be going more along the mirage route, which I am assuming means darker, but hopefully it doesn't lose its playfulness in the process. I am all for dark and gritty turtles, I just don't know if that is the role the show should take (granted this is all just speculation on my part!)

Zulithe
06-18-2014, 09:09 AM
I bet Playmates is loving this! More new turtle variant possibilities! :)

Season 3 is going to be really interesting. Season 2 finale is gonna be pretty extreme if the turtles are forced to leave at the end.

Vicky82
06-18-2014, 12:47 PM
One thing I can sort of share is an image I found in the TMNT: The Ultimate visual history.

It's a concept art image of what sort of changes the Turtles are going to undergo once they evacuate the city and are forced to live in the woods.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/Jahumlie/Jahumlie007/100_5459_zps8728a5ed.jpg


According to the concept art it says the Turtles would be undergoing a vision quest that would encourage them to forge new weapons for themselves and also confront their deepest fears. They are also going to have connection to an element.

It's not going to be like the Turtles are suddenly going to get the ability to bend elements, sorry Avatar fans.

Each of the turtles has taken to wear a hood or cloak of some sort. Except for Mikey who has taken to wearing a bandanna that covers the upper portion of his face alla the Turtle Tots from 2k3.

Raph is connected with fire, and seems to have a tube that shoots fire that comes out from the wrappings around his wrist. His mask looks like it covers his head much like Mikey's does. However it hangs down the sides of his face like Wolverine's mask does. His new weapons are a Tagaki, which are a set of hand held Wolverine type claws.

Leo is connected with wind. His mask is normal, but in he has a cloak that hoods over his head and wraps around his upper body. Unlike his brothers he still carries his trademark weapons, his swords. However instead of carrying them holstered on the back if his shell. He carries them at his side like a Samurai carries his swords. He also is armed with a bo and arrow.

Donnie and Mikey seem to be both connected the element of Earth. As they both have corollary elements.

Then again in Asia the elements of Earth, Air, Fire, & Water are depicted as Fire, Wood, Metal, Earth, Water.

Wood at times being connected to wind.

Donnie is connected to the Mountains which could indicate a connection to the element of earth, or the element of metal. We wears a hooded cloak like he is in the story board. Donnie no longer has his eye mask but he wears a skull like mask that is similar to Casey Jones mask, except his is made of stone. He also has white stripes painted on his arms, legs and possibly his body, as a type of camouflage. Donne also welds a hammer and an Ono Ax.

Mikey is connected to forest so by that regard he is connected to the element of wood. He has a mask that covers the whole top of his head, he also has leafy green camouflage on his face. Unlike his brothers he doesn't have a cloak or a hood, but sode (spalders) teko (gauntlet) and Kogake (Sabatons) that look as though they are made from tree bark. He also no longer carries his Nunchucks but Kama sickles.

Wow, if this going to end up in season 3, it be awesome.

MiBs
06-18-2014, 12:50 PM
those designs are amazing!! Can't wait to see them on the screen.

TrickOrTreater
06-18-2014, 01:36 PM
I believe THIS is the character you are referring to...
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk155/bewarethecreeper4/TheCreep.jpg (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/bewarethecreeper4/media/TheCreep.jpg.html)

Oh man, that is badASS.

Imagine if some ooze gets into a farm truck(a canister or some ooze contaminating vegetables for markets) and it's taken back upstate into New York, and some farmer guy gets mutated by some dirt/mud/moss?

If they give us another horror episode I'll be so happy.

This show is so great.

Powder
06-18-2014, 01:55 PM
I'm guessing Casey is gonna get his original iconic mask in season 3 considering that big mug is wearing the current one. :D

victory_angel
06-18-2014, 02:01 PM
I'm guessing Casey is gonna get his original iconic mask in season 3 considering that big mug is wearing the current one. :D

Or the creep steals Casey's mask, and the Turtles get it back by the end of the episode.

snake
06-18-2014, 03:46 PM
I love that design, it has a swamp thing look to it.

IndigoErth
06-18-2014, 03:59 PM
I want to like those designs, because from an artistic standpoint they do look really cool, but...

What the ****?
Hopefully it will translate pretty well on the actual characters. Looks like how they're done up should be pretty cute. (And I just ruined it for many young guys by calling it cute.)

BubblyShell22
06-18-2014, 04:13 PM
Whoa. Creep's design looks awesome. I bet Robert Englund's going to voice him, and if so, that's awesome. You know how Ciro and crew are big horror movie fans and like to put those elements into episodes, so it makes sense that they'd do something like this. The Turtles look cool, too, and I can't wait to see where these vision quests lead them.

Metalwolf
06-18-2014, 06:33 PM
I am ok with the new designs, as long as they don't become permanent. I just don't see the need to drastically change them so much. I know Ciro said this would be going more along the mirage route, which I am assuming means darker, but hopefully it doesn't lose its playfulness in the process. I am all for dark and gritty turtles, I just don't know if that is the role the show should take (granted this is all just speculation on my part!)I'm hoping this goes more darker (but I agree with you, hopefully it doesn't lose it's playfulness) as this show right now feels a little too goofy and light. Even the bad guys are getting along with each other a bit too much, as dare I say it, but a bromance looks to be sprouting between Tigerclaw and Bradford. That sort of removes a bit of grittiness, since the villains look better when they have a mini-rivalry between each other instead of gooshy friendship.

I think if this show ends at season 4, then this route for the Turtles is the best to take. It shows them maturing instead of remaining at their current level forever, and it will give a sense of them being adult once it does end. I can't wait to see it :D

pennydreadful
06-18-2014, 07:23 PM
Possibly, there was talk about the season ending on a cliff hanger.

Yes, that means he will debut in episode 301.

Kinda cool that they're going to end the season with the Turtles fleeing the city.

Season 3 is going to be really interesting. Season 2 finale is gonna be pretty extreme if the turtles are forced to leave at the end.

Yeah, I sort of wasn't really expecting them to have to leave the city til much later... if that's what's in store for us with the finale of Season 2, it's gonna be pretty intense!

miru
06-18-2014, 10:52 PM
One thing I can sort of share is an image I found in the TMNT: The Ultimate visual history.

It's a concept art image of what sort of changes the Turtles are going to undergo once they evacuate the city and are forced to live in the woods.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/Jahumlie/Jahumlie007/100_5459_zps8728a5ed.jpg


According to the concept art it says the Turtles would be undergoing a vision quest that would encourage them to forge new weapons for themselves and also confront their deepest fears. They are also going to have connection to an element.

It's not going to be like the Turtles are suddenly going to get the ability to bend elements, sorry Avatar fans.

Each of the turtles has taken to wear a hood or cloak of some sort. Except for Mikey who has taken to wearing a bandanna that covers the upper portion of his face alla the Turtle Tots from 2k3.

Raph is connected with fire, and seems to have a tube that shoots fire that comes out from the wrappings around his wrist. His mask looks like it covers his head much like Mikey's does. However it hangs down the sides of his face like Wolverine's mask does. His new weapons are a Tagaki, which are a set of hand held Wolverine type claws.

Leo is connected with wind. His mask is normal, but in he has a cloak that hoods over his head and wraps around his upper body. Unlike his brothers he still carries his trademark weapons, his swords. However instead of carrying them holstered on the back if his shell. He carries them at his side like a Samurai carries his swords. He also is armed with a bo and arrow.

Donnie and Mikey seem to be both connected the element of Earth. As they both have corollary elements.

Then again in Asia the elements of Earth, Air, Fire, & Water are depicted as Fire, Wood, Metal, Earth, Water.

Wood at times being connected to wind.

Donnie is connected to the Mountains which could indicate a connection to the element of earth, or the element of metal. We wears a hooded cloak like he is in the story board. Donnie no longer has his eye mask but he wears a skull like mask that is similar to Casey Jones mask, except his is made of stone. He also has white stripes painted on his arms, legs and possibly his body, as a type of camouflage. Donne also welds a hammer and an Ono Ax.

Mikey is connected to forest so by that regard he is connected to the element of wood. He has a mask that covers the whole top of his head, he also has leafy green camouflage on his face. Unlike his brothers he doesn't have a cloak or a hood, but sode (spalders) teko (gauntlet) and Kogake (Sabatons) that look as though they are made from tree bark. He also no longer carries his Nunchucks but Kama sickles.

And maybe April represents Mu (void)

victory_angel
06-18-2014, 11:19 PM
And maybe April represents Mu (void)

or water as water isn't present with the Turtles.

MCLeo28
06-18-2014, 11:37 PM
I'm hoping this goes more darker (but I agree with you, hopefully it doesn't lose it's playfulness) as this show right now feels a little too goofy and light. Even the bad guys are getting along with each other a bit too much, as dare I say it, but a bromance looks to be sprouting between Tigerclaw and Bradford. That sort of removes a bit of grittiness, since the villains look better when they have a mini-rivalry between each other instead of gooshy friendship.

I think if this show ends at season 4, then this route for the Turtles is the best to take. It shows them maturing instead of remaining at their current level forever, and it will give a sense of them being adult once it does end. I can't wait to see it :D

I wouldn't say it's a goofy friendship, but more of acknowledgement as they both think of each other as equals and still shows that they have some honor to an extent. My only problem with this is that Tiger Claw has been portrayed as the strongest henchman that Shredder possessed and the recent episode took that away which sucked, but I totally expected a nerf was coming.

Also, I thought Nickelodeon's description of the 2nd half of Season 2 included Kraang Prime, so S2 ending at "Vengeance is Mine" is really surprising to me.

Ashwolf
06-18-2014, 11:40 PM
I wouldn't say it's a goofy friendship, but more of acknowledgement as they both think of each other as equals and still shows that they have some honor to an extent. My only problem with this is that Tiger Claw has been portrayed as the strongest henchman that Shredder possessed and the recent episode took that away which sucked, but I totally expected a nerf was coming.

Also, I thought Nickelodeon's description of the 2nd half of Season 2 included Kraang Prime, so S2 ending at "Vengeance is Mine" is really surprising to me.

there r still 4 eps after vengeance

Tora
06-19-2014, 12:46 AM
I believe THIS is the character you are referring to...
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk155/bewarethecreeper4/TheCreep.jpg (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/bewarethecreeper4/media/TheCreep.jpg.html)


So Jason meets Swap Thing and that it could be voiced by Freddy?

WOW! That is beyond cool. :tcool:

Wretched Reptile
06-19-2014, 04:19 AM
Oh man, this character is right up my horror-lovin' dark alley. :lol: Love the F13 Part 2 baghead look. I'm definitely stoked for him to show up next season. And action figure too, please. :D

drgon78
06-19-2014, 06:52 AM
Cool design for creep, I hope the Turtles outfits are not for the rest of season 3.

rickwj324
06-19-2014, 07:22 AM
I bet Playmates is loving this! More new turtle variant possibilities! :)

Season 3 is going to be really interesting. Season 2 finale is gonna be pretty extreme if the turtles are forced to leave at the end.

Oh man, this character is right up my horror-lovin' dark alley. :lol: Love the F13 Part 2 baghead look. I'm definitely stoked for him to show up next season. And action figure too, please. :D

Love these designs and can't wait for figures of them!! Too bad The Creep will probably be an inch shorter than the turtles!! :lol:

MCLeo28
06-19-2014, 10:48 AM
there r still 4 eps after vengeance

Really, because the article said that Season 2 would end on June 29th, the release of "Vengeance is Mine", but hopefully that's just a mistake.

JH24
06-19-2014, 11:01 AM
^

We probably have the same amount of episodes as in season 1, and there are some plot points that haven't been shown in this season yet, as far as I know.

===

The pictures look absolutely amazing. Wow, I never expected that, it seems they're planning a lot for the new season and maybe in quite a different direction. And Creep's design looks great.


Interesting to see Donnie wearing a mask similar to Casey. Makes me wonder if something will happen to him, and Don is wearing it in memory of Casey. (Or it could just be coincidence)

FoxBoxKid
06-19-2014, 01:07 PM
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/Jahumlie/Jahumlie007/100_5459_zps8728a5ed.jpg

...

Then again in Asia the elements of Earth, Air, Fire, & Water are depicted as Fire, Wood, Metal, Earth, Water.

The five phases (a closer translation than elements) of wood, fire, earth, water, and metal are specific to China. In Japan, the elements are wind, water, earth, fire, and void. If someone could translate the kanji (I think it's kanji), we'd know who has which element.

victory_angel
06-19-2014, 01:12 PM
^

We probably have the same amount of episodes as in season 1, and there are some plot points that haven't been shown in this season yet, as far as I know.

===

The pictures look absolutely amazing. Wow, I never expected that, it seems they're planning a lot for the new season and maybe in quite a different direction. And Creep's design looks great.


Interesting to see Donnie wearing a mask similar to Casey. Makes me wonder if something will happen to him, and Don is wearing it in memory of Casey. (Or it could just be coincidence)


The art refers to it as the Shaman Stone Mask, maybe Donnie's vision quest leads him to some more spiritual practices. I find that to be a twist in Donnie's character because Leo was always usually the first one to turn to spiritual practices such as meditation. Mikey doesn't have the focus so he's more likely to fall asleep then reach a higher realm of consciousness. Raph doesn't have the patience.

Donnie however does have the patience and the focus for it, but he only turns to meditation when all other tangible options are exhausted, such as that time in TCRI where he starts to meditate for two seconds.

BubblyShell22
06-19-2014, 01:47 PM
Really, because the article said that Season 2 would end on June 29th, the release of "Vengeance is Mine", but hopefully that's just a mistake.

It was confirmed that it was a mistake and that the season won't end in June. I hope they'll stretch it out to July (probably have the 4th of July weekend as a break since people will be celebrating that) and then end the season then, but we'll see what they plan to do.

JH24
06-19-2014, 02:35 PM
The art refers to it as the Shaman Stone Mask, maybe Donnie's vision quest leads him to some more spiritual practices. I find that to be a twist in Donnie's character because Leo was always usually the first one to turn to spiritual practices such as meditation. Mikey doesn't have the focus so he's more likely to fall asleep then reach a higher realm of consciousness. Raph doesn't have the patience.

Donnie however does have the patience and the focus for it, but he only turns to meditation when all other tangible options are exhausted, such as that time in TCRI where he starts to meditate for two seconds.

Very interesting. Thanks for the information.

It would be a pretty interesting change in direction for this series. I do hope they won't go as far with it as in 2k3 (season 5, but I definitely love the 2k3 series in general)


Looking forward to find out what they're planning, a change in environment would also be cool to see.

rickwj324
06-19-2014, 02:44 PM
Interesting to see Donnie wearing a mask similar to Casey. Makes me wonder if something will happen to him, and Don is wearing it in memory of Casey. (Or it could just be coincidence)

I was about to post the same thing!

Sewer Sirens Podcast
06-19-2014, 02:44 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing this Creep.

I'm hoping that, whenever the turtles move to Northampton, this is a dark villain that becomes the new main 'baddie', with the absence of the Foot and the Kraang.

My mindset is solely focused on The River when I say that. I want to see a villain with the same feel as Bloodsucker.

Leofan26
06-19-2014, 02:58 PM
So this is information for next season right? If so, sounds awesome! What about Shredder? Oh well.

Loving the new outfits, yah why does Donnie's outfit look like Casey? Does he die or some thing? NaXD

Now I'm looking forward to next season even more :D

Raphtastic
06-19-2014, 03:05 PM
I'm loving this concept art! The elements idea, spiritual quest and new weapons aspect reminds me a bit of the Ninja Tribunal season of 2K3. Leo as an archer reminds me of his arc in North Hampton in Mirage and Creep looks fantastic, like a mystical forest Muckman! Don looks very intimidating, a bit like a shaman a nd a bit grim reaper-ish. I can't help but wonder if Creep taking Casey ' s mask and allusions to Casey ' s disappearance is part of the reason why his mask looks the way it does. Of course, it could just be coincidence.

Sewer Sirens, I'd love it if this was creepy ala the River!!

Leofan26
06-19-2014, 03:12 PM
I also like that Leo has an bow and Arrow for his second weapon :D

It would be cool if those rumors of them leaving New York on a cliff hanger of season two was true, best part is doesn't sound like April is at all here, which means no creepy stalker Donnie any more :D

Though doesn't sound like Master Splinters here either, wonder what happens?

victory_angel
06-19-2014, 03:17 PM
So this is information for next season right? If so, sounds awesome! What about Shredder? Oh well.

Loving the new outfits, yah why does Donnie's outfit look like Casey? Does he die or some thing? NaXD

Now I'm looking forward to next season even more :D

Shredder isn't the sort to be content with the assumption his enemies are gone unless he sees them all dead with his own eyes. So I'm sure we may get some moments where he is sending Tigerclaw, Rahzar, Baxter-Fly, and whoever else to scour the city for a trace of their enemies. I think for the most part the Shredder and Kraang may take a break to make room for other villains in the Turtles lives.

victory_angel
06-19-2014, 03:38 PM
I also like that Leo has an bow and Arrow for his second weapon :D

It would be cool if those rumors of them leaving New York on a cliff hanger of season two was true, best part is doesn't sound like April is at all here, which means no creepy stalker Donnie any more :D

Though doesn't sound like Master Splinters here either, wonder what happens?

Well if you look at the leaked story board on such and such thread, you do see Donnie wearing his cloak thing and he doesn't have his purple mask anymore. So it sounds like April may be with them in Northampton.

Casey and Splinter are up in the air. I suppose of The Creep has Casey's mask it was stolen from him as he tends to grab people and toss them. So that's how they encounter the Creep, with Casey getting attacked and injured and whoever did it stole his mask.

There is also a slight possibility that Creep could be Casey mutated, but I don't really think that is the case.

Splinter either sacrifices himself so that his sons, April, and Casey can escape the city. Which leads them to undergo the vision quest so they would be able to prepare themselves for the day they will reclaim their home, rescue or avenge Splinter and maybe Karai.

Or Splinter is able to escape with his sons, April is forced to stay with the Turtles for her safety. So she is keeping Splinter company while everyone else is undergoing their spiritual journey.

Maybe Kirby, Casey, and maybe Irma are go between's with the Turtles and the city so they can keep the Turtle's abreast of what the Shredder and Kraang are doing.

Leofan26
06-19-2014, 03:54 PM
Darn, was really hoping April would be left behind :(

I don't want romance in this series either, if those sketches of Donnie x April turn out to be true and she joins them well, minus one point for season three for me, hope that's not the case :ohwell:

I like the idea of Splinter sacrificing himself, this allows the turtles to grow on there own, train and fight villains without him more, kind of hoping for that :D

Wonder what happens to Karai? I don't see any thing on her for season three :(
Likely stay behind to help them escape.

It all sounds pretty cool though, really looking forward to it :D

Edit ;

I hope Shredder's the main villain for season four, he eally got the short end of the stick this season :(

Could see Tiger Claw a few times though.

victory_angel
06-19-2014, 03:58 PM
Darn, was really hoping April would be left behind :(

I don't want romance in this series either, if those sketches of Donnie x April turn out to be true and she joins them well, minus one point for season three for me, hope that's not the case :ohwell:

I like the idea of Splinter sacrificing himself, this allows the turtles to grow on there own, train and fight villains without him more, kind of hoping for that :D

Wonder what happens to Karai? I don't see any thing on her for season three :(
Likely stay behind to help them escape.

In the story board it looked like Donnie was trying to tell April good-bye. As in, "I'm not going to pursue you anymore." So it is possible the romance angle may take a break as well.

Leofan26
06-19-2014, 04:01 PM
In the story board it looked like Donnie was trying to tell April good-bye. As in, "I'm not going to pursue you anymore." So it is possible the romance angle may take a break as well.

I like that idea, or him saying good bye to her cuz they'll be leaving for a while and shey'll be staying in New York. Either one sounds good to me :D

JTH
06-19-2014, 04:09 PM
In the story board it looked like Donnie was trying to tell April good-bye. As in, "I'm not going to pursue you anymore." So it is possible the romance angle may take a break as well.
That may be what the "I understand nothing" line is for.

You mentioned their vision quest would involve each of them overcoming their fears, being Donnie's fear was April rejecting him in Fungus Humungous, they way to overcome it would be to finally talk to her so they both can move on. Then what does April do? Kisses him.

So not only is he not able to move on, but now he knows that can't get away from the fact that now their feelings are mutual.

Which may explain why he leaves for the mountains, for he feels it's his only way to move on.

Maybe.

Lou 500
06-19-2014, 04:22 PM
This show is going to take some interesting and brave turns indeed. The element-harnessing aspect still sounds iffy to me; I recall something similar occurring late in the 2K3 series and it just seemed like a really forced attempt at making them "cooler". (The part where they turned into dragons, ugh)

However, I'm not unopposed to seeing them out of their compfort zones and exploring new tactics; it would be a boring few seasons if nothing new was tried.

JH24
06-19-2014, 04:44 PM
This show is going to take some interesting and brave turns indeed. The element-harnessing aspect still sounds iffy to me; I recall something similar occurring late in the 2K3 series and it just seemed like a really forced attempt at making them "cooler". (The part where they turned into dragons, ugh)

However, I'm not unopposed to seeing them out of their compfort zones and exploring new tactics; it would be a boring few seasons if nothing new was tried.

I'm feeling the same way. I like this new direction, it's interesting but at the same time it reminds me of the (great) 2k3 series and especially season 5. I found it forced as well and it didn't feel like TMNT anymore.

But I have confidence they'll find a good balance. It makes me wonder what the turtles will face for them having to resort to these kind of powers and abilities.

MCLeo28
06-19-2014, 05:25 PM
It was confirmed that it was a mistake and that the season won't end in June. I hope they'll stretch it out to July (probably have the 4th of July weekend as a break since people will be celebrating that) and then end the season then, but we'll see what they plan to do.

That's good news then.

One issue I have is that if the Turtles are moving out New York City, then that would mean the mutants in New York City would at least have to be cured or else it would make no sense for them not to show up after Season 2. That also includes the Mutagen Man Arc needing to come to an end unless the Turtles takes Timothy with them.

But at least the Turtles escaping can lead to the Turtles facing against another group of Kraang and also potentially see the person who cut off Tiger Claw's tail.

@ Victory Angel

I was also thinking of the possibility of Casey being mutated, but I honestly hope they don't resort to that.

victory_angel
06-19-2014, 06:28 PM
That's good news then.

One issue I have is that if the Turtles are moving out New York City, then that would mean the mutants in New York City would at least have to be cured or else it would make no sense for them not to show up after Season 2. That also includes the Mutagen Man Arc needing to come to an end unless the Turtles takes Timothy with them.

But at least the Turtles escaping can lead to the Turtles facing against another group of Kraang and also potentially see the person who cut off Tiger Claw's tail.

@ Victory Angel

I was also thinking of the possibility of Casey being mutated, but I honestly hope they don't resort to that.

It had been mentioned that it would take a few months for Donnie to make retro mutagen.

And we don't know how much is passing in between Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman and now. It could be as little as a few days to as long as as a handful of months. We can all agree that single drop of Retromutagen was a McGuffin, so it is possible Kirby could return to being Kirby-Bat again.

As the current events are coming on fairly fast Donnie might not have time to make retromutagen for people such as Timothy or Ice Cream Kitty.

It's likely that since the Shredder is going to get the populous of New York on his side against the Turtles. It is possible the city wide man hunt would become a city wide man hunt for mutants in general.

So some mutants may have rounded up by the Kraang again (after all they recaptured Slash, who else could they have captured again.) Other mutants could be convinced to join Shredder's mutant army.

Then there are some mutants who will form groups such as heroic groups such as the Mutanimals, and others will form Pro-Mutant groups such as H.A.V.O.C.

Then there are a few unfortunates who are captured by humans and to be experimented on. I think Ice Cream Kitty might be brought out of the lair by the Turtles, but Timmy would likely be convinced to work for the Shredder or the Kraang just so he can get a seemingly endless supply of mutagen.

I can see maybe Baxter-Fly stealing Donatello's notes on the Retromutagen so he can attempt to recreate it for himself.

Donatello19
06-27-2014, 08:38 PM
I don't know how I missed all of this information...everything sounds awesome! I'm glad that Season 3 will be taking a different direction with a new setting, new type of armor/weapons/fighting style for the turtles, and (possibly?) a new main villain!

victory_angel
06-27-2014, 11:45 PM
I don't know how I missed all of this information...everything sounds awesome! I'm glad that Season 3 will be taking a different direction with a new setting, new type of armor/weapons/fighting style for the turtles, and (possibly?) a new main villain!

According to the caption on the new Turtle designs for the show, it mentions this was one of the long-term plans that Ciro had for the Turtles.

snake
06-27-2014, 11:52 PM
Let's just hope this season doesn't have as many hiatus breaks. :lol:

Metalwolf
06-28-2014, 08:38 AM
According to the caption on the new Turtle designs for the show, it mentions this was one of the long-term plans that Ciro had for the Turtles.I wonder what the other plans are? Does it say?

victory_angel
06-28-2014, 02:00 PM
I wonder what the other plans are? Does it say?

Sorry it doesn't, the caption just says that Ciro has several years worth of stories that he wants to tell. And a quick glance at his sketch book showed some of the long-term plans he had for the Turtles.

tmntfannumerouno
06-28-2014, 02:41 PM
I was thinking the same thing and after seeing the Groot BAF I could see someone making a sweet custom of this guy.
Looks like they mixed Swamp Thing (or Groot) with Jason from Friday the 13th

snake
06-28-2014, 03:11 PM
I was thinking the same thing and after seeing the Groot BAF I could see someone making a sweet custom of this guy.

That would be awesome. But isn't the Groot BAF really big? It'd be in scale with the classic turtles.

tylerdavies
06-28-2014, 05:19 PM
Let's just hope this season doesn't have as many hiatus breaks. :lol:

hahaha that's what I'm saying. Although I have a good feeling that we will get just as many hiatus breaks as we have in the past.

Also what turtles get each element? I'm going to assume that they won't have control over the element but they will adopt traits and fighting styles that resemble the element. We know:
-Raph gets FIRE
-Leo gets WIND
-Donnie gets EARTH(I'm going to assume so because of the "mountain" statement
Does that mean Mikey will get water? I like that idea because Mikey is a "go with the flow" kind of guy and water, well, flows. lol.

victory_angel
06-28-2014, 05:54 PM
hahaha that's what I'm saying. Although I have a good feeling that we will get just as many hiatus breaks as we have in the past.

Also what turtles get each element? I'm going to assume that they won't have control over the element but they will adopt traits and fighting styles that resemble the element. We know:
-Raph gets FIRE
-Leo gets WIND
-Donnie gets EARTH(I'm going to assume so because of the "mountain" statement
Does that mean Mikey will get water? I like that idea because Mikey is a "go with the flow" kind of guy and water, well, flows. lol.

it said something for forest.

BabyTurtles
06-28-2014, 07:31 PM
it said something for forest.

Why does Mikey get the weird element? XDD

MCLeo28
06-28-2014, 07:38 PM
Why does Mikey get the weird element? XDD

Because he's considered to be a very strange and unique individual.

victory_angel
06-28-2014, 07:58 PM
The words underneath the Turtles (possibly the translation of the pennant next to Mikey) says

In raiding and plundering be like Fire.
Let your rapidity be that of Wind
Be immovable, like a Mountain,
Your compactness, that of the Forest.

That's why I suggested that Donnie and Mikey be both a coronation of earth. And while the elements of Wood and Metal are common in Chinese lore, I have also seen them in Japanese lore occasionally. Sometimes the element of Spirit or light is used as the element of is used in place of void.

If April was water it could be a nod to May Witman's role as Katara. While Katara is a character from a different franchise, Nick TMNT has been known to reference other non-TMNT properties now and again.