Official Episode Discussion S2 #21 "Plan 10"

[Machias Banshee]

http://vimeo.com/98662757

Someday I will learn how to embed vimeo videos....

Okay, so this show is a lil disconnected from the whole karai plotline it seems. We just saw the boys get blown up off a building last week. How does trading character brains contribute to the main storyline? Maybe this was supposed to be seen before last week's episode. Or is this just some more silliness to introduce another weird mutant person?

Who wants to start betting that Mike trains brains with something weird, like a squirrel or a turnip?


Let's enjoy the madness and be ready to discuss!

[Vicky82]

Well, what the hell i'll make a new thread and Banshee can merge it when she come back online. So go nuts :D

Here are my thoughts

I was worried that I wasn't going to enjoy this episode because Idon't like these storylines but I was wrong, still it wasn't the best episode (not a top 10 episode) but it was so funny and I was laughing so hard throughout the episode, at one point I spat my tea out.

There was alot of stuff that returned in this episode. Kraang Prime and The Technodrome, The return of the Turtle sub and the the sea monster and he's still in love with it.

Leo must be really strong if he can carry Raph over his shoulders
Raph fighting himself was pretty cool.
Mikey wearing his pants
Mikey and Casey interacting more.
Donnie planning to build a turtle tech robot.

Funny Moments

Man in Pigeon saying he has an urge to eat breadcrumbs and poop on statues.
Mikey telling the mind swap man/pigeon " dude get a hold of yourself" and Donnie saying "Did you really just say that".
The mind swap man, thinking it was a dream and shouting, "I am a Man".
Mikey smacking Raph to wake him up but then tickles him and then the Kraang laughing.
Raph in Kraang body having trouble controling the Kraang android and trying to talk like them.
Kraang in Raphs body scaring people and spinning his head round - Exorcist reference - .
Casey laughing about the mind swap and then Splinter grabbing his ear.
Raph as a Kraang brain shouting "whoop! Whoop! Whoop! then running away saying "Squee! Squee! Squee!"
Mikey and Casey laughing and poking Raphs brain.
April and Casey swapping brains and when they swapped back Casey said e liked being a girl.


IGN gave it a 7.8

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/06/22/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-plan-10-review

[MiBs]

I was laughing so hard throughout the episode, at one point I spat my tea out.

How very british :lol:

[TigerClaw]

Finally saw it, Thought it was a good episode, Plenty of funny moments.

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

[BabyTurtles]

Finally saw it, Thought it was a good episode, Plenty of funny moments.

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

I was getting all mad at Casey for doing that....but my sister said "what do you expect a boy to do when he gets a girl's body???"

anyway~ my favorite part was the Casey and Mikey bonding moment....can we have more of that please *_*

[JTH]

anyway~ my favorite part was the Casey and Mikey bonding moment....can we have more of that please *_*

https://i.imgflip.com/9rb97.gif (https://imgflip.com/gif/9rb97)

Yeah, that was pretty humoring.

[BabyTurtles]

https://i.imgflip.com/9rb97.gif (https://imgflip.com/gif/9rb97)

Yeah, that was pretty humoring.

it was so fudging cute!! *_*

Mikey and Casey should be tighter friends XD they are both doofuses lol

[BoxxHarry]

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Casey confirmed for being a weaboo.

This was a really funny episode. My favourite parts were all the scenes and shots of Kraang in Raph's body looking droopy. I wish they could have done more with the mind switching than just April/Casey, though.

[snake]

I laughed at the anime joke, the plot wasn't too bad either. I enjoyed it better then any kraang episode from this season.

[Chinibio]

I take i'm not the only one, who was sensing some pent up anger, when Mikey was slapping Raph:lol: This episode made me laught. Raph trying to control the kraang body was hilarious. For a moment i was sure (or at least i was hoping for it) that one of the turtles would end up having a deeper conversation with the kraag in Raphs body. It could have given some more insight about why the kraang are taking over worlds in the first place. Overall a very funny episode.:)

[kelligrafie]

When Krang-Raph whupped Donnie and Mikey in the Shellraiser. It really showed how much physically stronger than the younger two he is.

In the same way in the first Rat King episode they suspected Splinter had gone easy on them in training, I guess Raph's gone easy on his brothers too. No matter how competitive you get with your siblings, you always tend to hold back more than you would against an opponent you don't know.

[Coola Yagami]

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

When you add this with the turtle mech, the show is getting more and more anime-ish per episode. Lol.

[BabyTurtles]

When Krang-Raph whupped Donnie and Mikey in the Shellraiser. It really showed how much physically stronger than the younger two he is.

In the same way in the first Rat King episode they suspected Splinter had gone easy on them in training, I guess Raph's gone easy on his brothers too. No matter how competitive you get with your siblings, you always tend to hold back more than you would against an opponent you don't know.

Raph is physically the strongest, but in this case I think he just took them all by surprise. Especially Mikey (who he already had a good grip on) and Donnie was plain confused but quickly figured it out.

[victory_angel]

I agree it wasn't the best episode. Heck, even the Casey/April mind switch while mildly amusing could have been better done, or left out entirely. What would have been slightly funnier is if Mikey and Leo switched minds for about five minutes.

It was great seeing Raph trying to control a body he wasn't familiar with. And also being able to access the Kraang communication orb to contact Donnie. It would been refreshing the have him fumbling around trying to figure out the controls as the other Turtles usually leave all the tech and sciencey stuff to Donnie. But oh well, they are going with what they have time to put in.

Donnie is developing plans for the Turtle Mech, which looked kinda like one of the mech in the Donatello one shot of the mirage comics.

And of course the preparations for the invasion of Earth.

[latmat]

Was a fun episode - I liked how Splinter was using some wisdom and not just letting the turtles rush in. Gave it a nice touch that sometimes they really are over their heads...

Seemed like this episode is setting up season three, probably a more Krang. Hopefully we get to see some cross dimensional episodes. Maybe bring back leatherhead, that'd be cool.

I'd like to actually see some of the training that Splinter and April are doing, they just show them talking about it. Seems like that little fan of hers just does whatever they want in any given episode. I'd like to see that developed more and what her skills really are.

Was fun to get a glimpse into the Krang and the technodrome.

Ya Raph is pretty much able to manhandle Donny and Mikey. Leo and Raph sparring/fighting is more even.

[Punker Don]

I was honestly wasn't expecting to like this episode. I was worried it would end up retreading the same ground as the OT episode "The Old Switcheroo." Just watched it and really enjoyed it. It wasn't much of a twist on an old plot device, but it had more than enough humor and action to make it fun.

It seems Donny might have ideas for giant turtle mecha. I don't know if I think that's really dumb, or really, really awesome. Gonna go with the latter for now.

[MCLeo28]

I wasn't expecting much, but this episode actually turned out to be one of my favorites this series had to offer. I don't know why, but there were plenty of funny moments, it was nice seeing Raph trying to interact with the Kraang and seeing Kraang Prime operate many plans at once and was using Plan 10 to switch minds with the humans to take over their world (or at least that's what I understood from it). Really nice episode and the ending, wow, loved it.

Metalhead might be coming back for the Season Finale!

[kelligrafie]

What would have been slightly funnier is if Mikey and Leo switched minds for about five minutes.
Mikey would probably think it put him in charge like in the weapon switching episode.

"I'm the guy with the swords. I'm in charge!"
"JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN MY BODY, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU THE LEADER!"



Did anyone notice that Josh Peck didn't just voice Casey, in the credits he was listed as some skull guy. I think it was the in the tv show they were watching - he might've been the villain.

[Coola Yagami]

I do find it kind of repetitive. The krang are going to invade the earth??? Gasp!! Who saw that coming??? Oh wait. Wasn't that the big epic event at the end of season 1??? Didn't we walk this road before? How many times has kraang prime said 'let the invasion of earth begin' by now?

At this point I'm kinda bored with them and more interested in the shredder and his forces.

[saintsaucey]

Mikey would probably think it put him in charge like in the weapon switching episode.

"I'm the guy with the swords. I'm in charge!"
"JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN MY BODY, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU THE LEADER!"



Did anyone notice that Josh Peck didn't just voice Casey, in the credits he was listed as some skull guy. I think it was the in the tv show they were watching - he might've been the villain.

I totally read that in Jason Biggs voice.

[MCLeo28]

Raph is physically the strongest, but in this case I think he just took them all by surprise. Especially Mikey (who he already had a good grip on) and Donnie was plain confused but quickly figured it out.

This. The fact that we see Mikey sparring evenly with Leo in the Vengeance is Mine promo suggests all of the brothers are around equal strength.

[BoxxHarry]

I do find it kind of repetitive. The krang are going to invade the earth??? Gasp!! Who saw that coming??? Oh wait. Wasn't that the big epic event at the end of season 1??? Didn't we walk this road before? How many times has kraang prime said 'let the invasion of earth begin' by now?

At this point I'm kinda bored with them and more interested in the shredder and his forces.

I hope the invasion gets dealt with in the season finale while they save the whole thing with Shredder and the Foot Clan as a set-up for season 3.

[MCLeo28]

I wonder if Shredder will attempt to take back Karai and even mutate her in the Season 2 Finale and Splinter has his side-story where he tries to rescue her.

[NoName999]

This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

[kelligrafie]

I totally read that in Jason Biggs voice.

Speaking of voices, Dominic was better than last week. People were saying he was a tad flat last week, but nobody has really made a deal today. Maybe because of the Seth Green announcement they've come to terms with Biggs not returning.

[VaughnMichael]

Watched this one late lastnight via iTunes.
I have to be honest that this is probably my least favorite episode of the season.
Like others have said it's a bit of a re-hash of events and jokes no less.
I really didn't find many of the jokes in this one to be all that funny either.
My favorite part was the return of the Kraang SeeSerpent and the interaction with the turtle sub.
I did like that Casey & April came along even if I still don't care for this version of Casey (can't put my finger on it either but he he just erks me).
I also loved Don's reveal at the end of the Turtle Mech.
It reminded me of the old Metalhead Turtlevan Mech that Playmates never produced + one of A.C. Farley's TMNT designs.

[BabyTurtles]

This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

I know right! that was a surprise. :3

[MrTMNT2012]

I do find it kind of repetitive. The krang are going to invade the earth??? Gasp!! Who saw that coming??? Oh wait. Wasn't that the big epic event at the end of season 1??? Didn't we walk this road before? How many times has kraang prime said 'let the invasion of earth begin' by now?

At this point I'm kinda bored with them and more interested in the shredder and his forces.

At least they put a fresh new spin on it; with the Kraang taking over world leaders and dominating the Earth from the inside as oppose to their last plan!

I find this concept much more exciting! :tgrin:

[Coola Yagami]

At least they put a fresh new spin on it; with the Kraang taking over world leaders and dominating the Earth from the inside as oppose to their last plan!

I find this concept much more exciting! :tgrin:

Yeah but I mean the part where raph discovered their plans and tells the others and it kinda looks like everyone is gonna get set to stop the big kraang invasion for the season finale.... This was all season 1 stuff. Have the season finale be about Karai and the retromutagen. Something different.

[RandomtasticFantasy]

This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

Agreed. I find it refreshing when he doesn't.

Overall, not a bad episode. My expectations weren't much but I was glad to see it was really enjoyable. Nice to see a Raph centric episode that's funny and fun.

[victory_angel]

Yeah but I mean the part where raph discovered their plans and tells the others and it kinda looks like everyone is gonna get set to stop the big kraang invasion for the season finale.... This was all season 1 stuff. Have the season finale be about Karai and the retromutagen. Something different.

The original invasion was with the Technodrome, only. Now it's going to have more then just that. So yeah this is the invasion of earth, but it's like "Okay, this time we're going to invade the earth and show we're serious about it."

Krang and Shredders desires to destroy and concur Earth also becomes same old same old in the OT

[Coola Yagami]

The original invasion was with the Technodrome, only. Now it's going to have more then just that. So yeah this is the invasion of earth, but it's like "Okay, this time we're going to invade the earth and show we're serious about it."

Krang and Shredders desires to destroy and concur Earth also becomes same old same old in the OT

True. But this show is supposed to be beyond that. It's not the 80s any more.

[victory_angel]

True. But this show is supposed to be beyond that. It's not the 80s any more.

I believe it was Einstein who said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results." And it's a no brainer (pun intended) that the Kraang are quite insane.

[Garfield]

I enjoyed it. I like mind switch episodes in shows. Its got that silver age camp that I like.

I like Kraang Raph fighting to survive.

[ranger_scout]

Today's episode reminded me of the 80's episode where Splinter and Shredder switched bodies. It was pretty enjoyable.

[blindturtle02]

I liked this one. It felt a little like Raph Drives em Wild where he switched minds with that cab driver. Loved seeing the Technodrome again. I've been waiting for that. Really dug the Kraang laugh. It struck me funny. Great seeing the Dimension X sea creature again. Poor lovestruck lug just can't seem to catch a break! Very fun episode, and can't wait for Vengeance Is Mine next weekend.

[BubblyShell22]

This episode was definitely funny. Loved the switching thing and how Raph tried to imitate the Kraang. Kind of reminded me of when Cartman pretended he was a robot to fool Butters. Also loved how Mikey and Casey bonded and that Don didn't get all goo goo eyed with April. That ought to keep the anti-Apriltello people happy. Casey and April's switch was funny too, and I laughed when Casey said he liked being a girl. Reminds me of times I wish I was a guy sometimes. Splinter dispensing wisdom was good, too, and I don't think the plot is repetitive to season 1. The Kraang know their plan failed last time, so instead of terraforming the Earth as they tried to do, now they're going to try and switch minds with people to take over the world. Seems a bit more threatening to me, though now they'll have to rethink their plan. Overall, a pretty decent ep. Bring on "Vengeance is Mine" next week. I'm stoked for that one!

[Ursalink]

Miss part of the episode, can you tell me if there was any moment where the location of the lair was about to be discovered, please?

[Sighphi]

Finally saw it, Thought it was a good episode, Plenty of funny moments.

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

Yeah Casey got some points cause he likes subbed anime and he did say that he liked being in the body of a girl so..... Raph and Casey shippers got their opening! :lol:

I also noticed that the clock on the Shellraiser said 2 o'clock so.... does that mean all these people were hanging out at 2 in the morning? Was it a Saturday or something?

[Coola Yagami]

Miss part of the episode, can you tell me if there was any moment where the location of the lair was about to be discovered, please?

No. Kraang-raph was too busy thinking about getting away or attacking the turtles to consider using this to his advantage to find their lair and tell the others.

[fridaynightdestination]

I thought this was a great episode! It was tons of fun, had great fighting scenes and good humor. Overall, great episode, 8.5/10, one of the best this season by far.

[saber16]

No. Kraang-raph was too busy thinking about getting away or attacking the turtles to consider using this to his advantage to find their lair and tell the others.

Yeah, the closest we got to a "Protecting the location of the lair" plot point was Leo and the others obscuring Kraang-Brain Raph's vision with a paper bag.

[IndigoErth]

and he did say that he liked being in the body of a girl
Am I the only one who said/thought, yeah, you'd love it next week. :P

[JTH]

The thing that bugs me...we had a mind swapping episode...And we didn't get a Donnie/Raph swap for Rob Paulsen to speak as Raph!?

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

[OrangeNinja1987]

Loved the episode. It had tons of funny moments and reminded me of a classic 80's TMNT brain-swapping episode (there were a lot). I loved seeing Raph trying to act like a Kraang - lots of great lines from that. Dominic actually was good as Leo this week. I didn't mind him at all. Mikey was funny, but wasn't dealt with like a complete idiot like he usually is in this show (I think the show should take the route with Mikey they set up in Wrath of Tigerclaw - hilarious but not dumb - and so far that looks like what is happening).
This episode just felt fresh. It is definitely my favorite Kraang episode of season 2. Glad that Donnie didn't go crazy for April in this episode, but I still like Apritello.
Super excited for Vengeance is Mine!

[TrickOrTreater]

Boy am I glad they didn't drag the "kraang in Raph's body" thing out too long. They didn't have any scenes of kraang trying to "blend in" with the other 3 and they figured it out almost immediately and I'm really happy about that.

Great episode.

[snake]

Boy am I glad they didn't drag the "kraang in Raph's body" thing out too long. They didn't have any scenes of kraang trying to "blend in" with the other 3 and they figured it out almost immediately and I'm really happy about that.

Great episode.

Yup, in other cartoons, no one notices that someone swapped minds until the final act of the episode.

[shihe]

At first I was afraid it was going to turn into the typical mind-switch episode, but I'm glad I was wrong.

It was funny, and best of all, it actually served a purpose. So that Raphael could find out what the Kraang were up to.

It would've been awesome to have a mind-switch frenzy at the end, but I guess that would have only made it more predictable, and perhaps drag the episode on while detracting in the plot development area.

It was a pretty cool episode... although a bit unreal that the Turtles would simply forget about Karai juts like that. But a good change of mood since the "Miwa-saga" was getting a little bit too serious.
(I still would have preferred this episode AFTER the Karai issue was resolved, but then again... maybe it still has a long way to go).

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Just watched the episode on you-tube- man that was fast- and it was great. Loved Raph-Kraang, it was fun seeing him try to fool the Kraang. Loved the sea-monster, too. I almost feel sorry for it. However, as funny as the Casey/April switch was, what would have been even FUNNIER would be Casey and DONNIE switching!! You can bet Donnie might have reservations about switching back with him if that happened, as it would put him in a better position with April. Might make fore some interesting plot moments, not to mention seeing both of their reactions to being switched.

Someone else suggested a Raph/Don switch, and that would have been a great idea, too. Now that I think about it, having the thing go nuts and just start randomly switching everyone around would have made for some crazy fun with the dialog!

[MikeandRaph87]

This is one of those plots that are reatedly seen in cartoons especially superhero related ones. Still its interesting to see what the mindswap will do. Why couldn't Raphael and Donatello briefly switch so Rob could have voiced Raphael? Missed opportunity.

Btw,was that Metalhead 2.0 that Donatello showed off plans for?

[TigerClaw]

Here is IGN's review of this episode.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/22/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-plan-10-review

And Black Nerd's Review

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[Donatello19]

Btw,was that Metalhead 2.0 that Donatello showed off plans for?

Nah, that was the turtle mech, it was mentioned in iTunes' description for Season 2. It's basically a giant fighting robot/mech suit that the turtles will be controlling from the inside to take on Kraang Prime.

[Karai Samurai]

I've been without cable for a while now so this is the first episode I've watched since Baxter mutated. I really need to catch up. Decent episode, but JESUS CHRIST ON A CRACKER does Leo sound bad! It's not the voice that's terrible it's the acting...why did Biggs have to go? I know he's probably busy with Orange is the New Black (love that show) but this new guy is trash. I'm loving April and Casey's interactions...very realistic. Casey reminds me of every 16 year old I knew growing up. The offer for a massage was on point. Why do you guys always do that? Anyway, decent. 7/10

[Coola Yagami]

Am I the only one who said/thought, yeah, you'd love it next week. :P

I don't get it... Was she a week away from her period or something?

[fridaynightdestination]

One thing that I think would've been cool is having this episode be a two-parter, and this episode ends with everyone being switched with someone. That would be a nice cliffhanger.

[IndigoErth]

I don't get it... Was she a week away from her period or something?
Was just a joke... On the assumption she might have been.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised they didn't go crazy at the end and have everyone switch bodies with the machine going out of control.

[Ashwolf]

One thing that I think would've been cool is having this episode be a two-parter, and this episode ends with everyone being switched with someone. That would be a nice cliffhanger.

totally agree

[Wretched Reptile]

Pretty entertaining episode. Was much better than I expected, since I tend to loathe tired and recycled plots like this one. The guy doing the pigeon dance in the background during the beginning had me rolling in the floor. :lol: Dominic definitely sounded better this week too. His delivery and overall vibe was much improved over his performance in last week's episode. :thumbsup:

[Midnight Mutant]

I loved this episode! It had me laughing a LOT! It was so amusing and a great break from the seriousness of episodes like The return of Tiger claw.

The ONLY thing I wish this episode had more of, was the brain switching. I was really, really, REALLY hoping that there would be brain switching galore when Donnie was trying to fix April and Casey. Like he keeps messing up and switching everyone around. I would have loved to see Mikey in Raph's body or Leo's. Or Casey and Donnie switching or Leo and April or Donnie and Raph.

Ah well, still a good episode.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I liked it. Not necessarily one of my favorites, but still worth watching if not for the humor.

[kelligrafie]

OR

Rob/Sean/Nolan doing a threeway switch.

Then we have Raph voicing Raph voicing Raph.

[Metalwolf]

I watched this yesterday, and I have to say, I really liked it. It was much much better then Pizzaface, and it offered a clue as to what the Kraang were intending to do.

All in all a good episode :D

[Teddy]

Ok, KrangRaph was freakin' hilarious!! Totally lost it when he jumped out of the Krang suit and was "squeeeeeing" all over the place. :tlol:

Kind of wish Casey and April had been switched a little longer, that was also pretty awesome. I think my favorite part was Casey saying how much he had enjoyed being a girl. XD

[Guitar_Raph]

I cracked up when Raph acted like Curly of the 3 Stooges!

This marks post 1,950!

[ObiWanFan4life]

I cracked up when Raph acted like Curly of the 3 Stooges!

This marks post 1,950!



Favorite moment of the episode. :D

[pannoni1]

One of my suggestions for this cartoon before the series began was to have an Old Switcheroo-type episode (with the episode title ripping off of both a '50s sci-fi movie and the OT's Season 4 premiere) with a non-Shredder villain. Now that this is taken care of, its good to see that Nick didn't just leave it with a generic single pair of a body swap. Yes, the one Kraang and Raphael was the key primary component, but we also see a Pigeon with a man and April/Casey during the climax for some humorous effect. But in addition to having another Technodrome appearance again, the plot suggests a Kraang attack on Earth approaching as we approach the season's finale along with the Mech suit. It may not be the most original idea, but its fun to watch occassionally.

Overall: 7.5/10

[kolaida]

I liked it. It was the first episode I got to see with my legit cable so yay for that!! I definitely loved Mikey and Casey cracking up over the whole thing, loved that! The very beginning had me laughing too especially Raph's baking cookies comment, lol!

[TurtleTitan97]

I was getting all mad at Casey for doing that....but my sister said "what do you expect a boy to do when he gets a girl's body???"



Can't argue with that. :P

Good episode overall. And looking forward to the Turtle Mech Donnie will build.

[Leofan26]

An ok episode. Kind of wish they'd done more with that switching device, seeing the others switch places would have been fun, oh well.

[Machias Banshee]

*kicks internet connection*

I thought I unlocked it Saturday night and it unstuck it instead... :tgrumble:

Poll on it's way up!

[drgon78]

Another great episode and at least Raph learned some vital information though I wish the experience had more of a positive effect on that Krang.

[CowabungaMikey]

The two best things in this episode came from my least favourite 2012 character: Casey Jones.


''Ah, where are the subtitles? I hate dubbed anime!"
and Casey checking out April's butt was hilarious.


7,8/10

[drgon78]

Actually he said "I hate dubbed anime".

[blue_angel99]

Nice episode.

Donny's sketch at the end....is that a mecha?!?

Go, go turtle rangers!

[Raphtastic]

Wacky mind swapping hijinks & a title inspired by Plan 9 from Outerspace! Love the action, as usual. Watching Raph awkwardly impersonate the Kraang was great and he handled himself pretty well. Like the decoy Karai, I thought they were less observant than they should be. I like to think Leo's too cautious to not suspect something might have happened when Raph got hit with the ray or, if not, that Donnie would bring it to his attention. Even within the world of the show, where the characters aren't as skilled and confident as we've seen them in past incarnations, there are moments in this season where I keep expecting Leo and/or Don to catch things that they aren't catching. Hopefully they're learning and growing in that direction! Mikey was entertaining, as usual.

I liked that Casey liked being a girl and the anime bit was a tiny bit more insight into who he is. I thought it would've been funny if they'd been stuck mind swapped a bit longer. The opportunity for Casey and April to bicker about it would've been great!

[victory_angel]

Wacky mind swapping hijinks & a title inspired by Plan 9 from Outerspace! Love the action, as usual. Watching Raph awkwardly impersonate the Kraang was great and he handled himself pretty well. Like the decoy Karai, I thought they were less observant than they should be. I like to think Leo's too cautious to not suspect something might have happened when Raph got hit with the ray or, if not, that Donnie would bring it to his attention. Even within the world of the show, where the characters aren't as skilled and confident as we've seen them in past incarnations, there are moments in this season where I keep expecting Leo and/or Don to catch things that they aren't catching. Hopefully they're learning and growing in that direction! Mikey was entertaining, as usual.

I liked that Casey liked being a girl and the anime bit was a tiny bit more insight into who he is. I thought it would've been funny if they'd been stuck mind swapped a bit longer. The opportunity for Casey and April to bicker about it would've been great!

There is also the OT episode Plan 6 from Outerspace

[CowabungaMikey]

Actually he said "I hate dubbed anime".

Yeah, sorry, I got confused.

[Electric]

decent episode.

Still don't like Dominic as Leo

Gave a little update on the kraang

Casey and April switching was probably the best part

[Ninja Tiptup]

OR

Rob/Sean/Nolan doing a threeway switch.

Then we have Raph voicing Raph voicing Raph.

That would have been pure fan-service which would have made the voice switching worth while.

I have to say I was let down by this one because when Sean talked about an episode where he "got to do the Kraang voice" due to Raph and a Kraang switching brains I was hoping for something a bit different.

It mostly came down to not thinking they would switch the voices with their minds. I wanted to hear a Kraang in Raphael's body speaking in Raphael's regular voice trying not to use Kraang-isms and for Raphael in the Kraang body either not being able to communicate or talking like Raphael normally would but with the robotic voice of the Kraang robot body.

Likewise I would have been more amused by the April and Casey switch if their voices didn't change as well. Sure it's funny to hear Casey's voice come out of April's mouth but it'd be funnier to me for Mae and Josh to talk like each other's characters. If they didn't switch the voices the best joke that wouldn't have happened was the Pigeon talking like a man.

I'm also disappointed the Kraang was discovered almost immediately when it would have been more interesting for that Kraang to try to blend in and not get caught rather so the turtles just think Raph is acting a bit weird before Raphael manages to contact them.

Those changes would have made this story more worthwhile to me but ultimately it was entertaining enough as is. I was just expected something different.

[pennydreadful]

Okies, finally had some time to watch this... less funny than I had hoped but it was an ok filler episode I suppose. :ohwell:

[ssjup81]

Okay. I just realized that I haven't given my full thoughts on this episode yet. Welp, here I am. lol

I liked this episode okay. Much better than last week's, imo, but I have been spoiled by The Wrath of Tigerclaw. I thought it was pretty amusing and it was fun hearing Raph talk like a Kraang. Of course we all know that Leo and Mikey could've pulled it off flawlessly. lol I didn't know that Raph's 2k7 VA voiced the Kraang so it was like Raph was switching with himself. lol

I think it would've been great, though if they would've had more switching around at the end when trying to reverse everything. Donnie switching places with Raph after Raph was switched back to himself would've been great! Anyone else think so? Or Leo with Mikey or Donnie with Casey or whatever....but yeah, the Donnie and Raph thing I would've liked for obvious reasons. :-P Raph switching with himself twice. :tlol:

Casey and April switching was interesting and Casey checking himself out was so....boyish to me. When he was switched back, I found his comment, "I kinda like being a girl" pretty funny because I wasn't expecting it. His anime line was great too, so I know something else about Casey. He likes subtitled anime. I still know more about him than April...kinda sad.

Oh, I loved how Casey and Mikey were teasing Raph. When Casey started laughing over Raph's mind being switched with a Kraang, I thought back to when Raph laughed over April being followed by a giant pigeon back on season 1. It just reminded me of that and how Raph was the only one laughing. When Casey and Mikey were laughing and poking Raph-Kraang was great. At least we see that he and Mikey have something in common or similar humor sides.

Oh, when Mikey was trying to wake up Raph while slapping him and Donnie had to stop him, I laughed for some reason. I think Mikey likes finding an excuse to hit Raph. In Pizza Face, when Mikey had to fight back against his brothers, he was like "Sorry Donnie. Sorry Leo." But when he slammed that heavy bag of flour onto Raph, "I'm not sorry, Raph." Or something like that. What do you think?

You know, I'm surprised that Raph didn't try to beat down (in a comical sense) Casey and Mikey after getting his body back. I know he slapped them, but I was expecting more.



Okies, finally had some time to watch this... less funny than I had hoped but it was an ok filler episode I suppose. :ohwell:To be honest, I just don't see this as being a filler episode, since something occurred in it that actually moves the plot along. Pizza face was definitely filler. Fungus Humungous was fillerish, despite being a good Leo development episode. The ep with the wasps seemed filler-like, but not this one. I only say this because we learned something that will further along the plot because of Raph's switch with the Kraang. We learned what they were up to and what they were up to and now that the Turtles have this info, they can act on it to try and stop them.

[JH24]

Not a bad episode, not really memorable but still entertaining. And now we know the Kraang have been using their time to prepare something big in the near future.

Overall, I wish they develop the Kraang more, they're still one-dimensional and well.. well just boring. None of them seem to have a personality at all.

By the way, loved Casey's laugh in this episode.

[pennydreadful]

To be honest, I just don't see this as being a filler episode, since something occurred in it that actually moves the plot along. Pizza face was definitely filler. Fungus Humungous was fillerish, despite being a good Leo development episode. The ep with the wasps seemed filler-like, but not this one. I only say this because we learned something that will further along the plot because of Raph's switch with the Kraang. We learned what they were up to and what they were up to and now that the Turtles have this info, they can act on it to try and stop them.

True, I guess it felt like filler to me in that most of it was fluff with maybe 30 seconds of serious stuff at the end - and stuff we've already seen before (in terms of it's another Kraang invasion)... I guess I'm kind of just hanging out for the Shredder and Miwa/Karai storyline a bit more than I am anything to do with the Kraang.

[BubblyShell22]

I think Casey laughing at Raph might have been a bit of revenge for when Raph laughed at Casey for being scared of rats.

[Lisardo]

What's funny is I watched the OS episode, "The Old Switcheroo" right before watching this. Coincidence that this new ep was the same formula with the brain-swap thing. Tho the one thing I liked better about "The Old Switcheroo" is that the voices spoken still belonged to the body they were in; i.e. Splinter in Sherdder's body, his voice was still Shredder's, etc. Overall tho I thought the episode was good. The April-Casey switch was funny. And I agree with Casey on the animes dubbed verses subbed, if it's one I'm really into (dialog doesn't transfer well when it's English-dubbed).

[ssjup81]

There's another OT ep that involved two people switching. I can't recall the name of the episode, but it was, ironically, a Raph ep. He ended up switched with a cab driver I think...or were there two eps where Raph ended up mind swapped with someone? I think there was another ep where he ended up mind swapped with one of the many gangsters the show had.

I just found it ironic that out of all of the turtles, they used Raph for this as Raph was the only one from the OT that comes to mind who had his mind swapped.

[blindturtle02]

There's another OT ep that involved two people switching. I can't recall the name of the episode, but it was, ironically, a Raph ep. He ended up switched with a cab driver I think...or were there two eps where Raph ended up mind swapped with someone? I think there was another ep where he ended up mind swapped with one of the many gangsters the show had.

I just found it ironic that out of all of the turtles, they used Raph for this as Raph was the only one from the OT that comes to mind who had his mind swapped.

That one was Raphael Drives Em Wild, I think. They kept their voices in that one too.

[Lisardo]

...or were there two eps where Raph ended up mind swapped with someone? I think there was another ep where he ended up mind swapped with one of the many gangsters the show had.

I think the other episode you're thinking of in the OT (or OS, whatever) is "Raphael, Turtle of a Thousand Faces", where Raph dresses up as that ganster, Maddog McMutt. Wasn't a mind-swap thing tho.

[Shark_Blade]

Totally love this episode. :tlove:

When Kraang Raph looked at his rflection, I remember that gif someone made with him as Mulan and just laughed out loud.

http://38.media.tumblr.com/9df70f85770ba8e3a15ea6f2c86ad88c/tumblr_n7lr72e6ND1tyz6edo1_400.gif

[Refractive Reflections]

This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

I agree, the humor was much more organic rather than then the forced grotesqueness of "Pizza Face" and previous Season 2 episodes. The situational humor provided comic relief (Raph being the Kraang, Casey and April switching bodies, Casey and Mikey bonding over teasing Raph, the pigeon and man swapping minds) at the right timing and situations, within and between the fighting scenes, without making it inappropriate as in the "Invasions of the Squrrielanoids" when the Turtles made fun of Raph's more dire situation. In addition, it didn't make Mikey's stupidity so extreme here!

**Reads the lead writer for the episode*** Hmmm, a new writer. No wonder the humor was different and refreshing rather than falling on the conventional "dumb and loud Mikey" humor, and ill-mannered childish behavior. If it can continue on this trend (**sigh** don't let me down again Nick, c'mon now... :P), I might enjoy the show's humor more.

...And thank goodness the crush thing between Donnie and April is being pulled back where he isn't losing his head over her when she's around.

[ssjup81]

I think the other episode you're thinking of in the OT (or OS, whatever) is "Raphael, Turtle of a Thousand Faces", where Raph dresses up as that ganster, Maddog McMutt. Wasn't a mind-swap thing tho.Ah, that's it. My mistake with that one. So it was only once.

And thank goodness the crush thing between Donnie and April is being pulled back where he isn't losing his head over her when she's around.Donnie's crush on April has been downplayed a lot this season in general, imo, unless there was a good reason for it...like in The Wrath of Tigerclaw. She was in danger and he was concerned since she wasn't answering her phone.

Even in Pizzaface, you saw him call her, since she was late or whatever, yet he never went out to find her to see if she was in danger or in trouble (this is another reason why I feel that Pizzaface was all a dream of Mikey's). lol

[sdp]

Not a terrible episode but rather generic, the OT did the body switching a lot better IIRC. We hadn't had such a generic Kraang episode in a while. So, that's the Technodrome? I forgot if they had already introduced it..what's up with the Death Star rip-off design they used in Turtles Forever and now here? I hate it, the eye was iconic and no sillier than other things in the turtles universe, at least not in 2k3/Nick..

[Sumac]

Ah...a token mindswitch episode.
But it was not bad. I liked Raph as Kraang and it would be nice, if it has sticked for maybe 2-3 episodes. But well, you can't have a lot of nice things.

April and Casey switch at the end was unnecessary, IMO, but it certainly was some sort of homage to the OT episode "Old Switcheroo" down to the same split screen effect.

And Turtles has invaded Technodrome for the first time in the series (post S1 finale)!! Yey.

Finally it seems it was setting up an upcoming Kraang invasion, which is nice twist for otherwise filler episode.

[blindturtle02]

I love anything to do with the technodrome. Loved the OT episodes where the guys broke in. The tech and shear size of that place always fascinated me as a kid. That Kraang laugh in this episode still cracks me up. Sounds so much like my screen reader when he does that.

[ssjup81]

Ah...a token mindswitch episode.
But it was not bad. I liked Raph as Kraang and it would be nice, if it has sticked for maybe 2-3 episodes. But well, you can't have a lot of nice things.

April and Casey switch at the end was unnecessary, IMO, but it certainly was some sort of homage to the OT episode "Old Switcheroo" down to the same split screen effect.

And Turtles has invaded Technodrome for the first time in the series (post S1 finale)!! Yey.

Finally it seems it was setting up an upcoming Kraang invasion, which is nice twist for otherwise filler episode.How is it filler if it affected the main plot or had something occur that affected it or will?

[Sumac]

How is it filler if it affected the main plot or had something occur that affected it or will?
Well, aside from setting up Kraang invasion it had little to do with main plot and was rather generic "Turtles vs Kraang" episode.