View Full Version : How does the lack of Marketing make you feel?
Leolead
06-21-2014, 10:24 PM
Just wanted to know how it made you guys feel, i makes me really angry!
samxsteal
06-21-2014, 10:30 PM
Just wanted to know how it made you guys feel, i makes me really angry!
I wouldn't actually call it a total lack Flawed yes but not a lack of. I mean they do have the trailers out they're are viewable by the public. Does it suck and is it stupid they haven't the 3rd tv spot and 3rd trailer online in HD yeah it does, does it suck that only one of the BTS nick movie trailers is online Yeah it does, but the point is they are viewable they are out there just not in a way that accessible that's the issue.
im upset because its upsetting other more. I mean im happy iwth what i have seen im patient enough to know i will see it eventually, But it suck that other are upset, Sure i want to see the trailer, and yes even i admit what they are currently doing seems kind of stupid.
But they obviously have something planned why have all this stuff going on all over the world and all that all i can think of. BUt come july 31st and they have yet to release more then we no there is a problem
I don't care. I know the movie exists and I will go see it. All I care about.
IndigoErth
06-21-2014, 10:37 PM
Just wanted to know how it made you guys feel, i makes me really angry!
Calm yourself, ninja... It's a test of patience..
Unless you really wanna pull a Raph or something.
8)
xChri5x
06-21-2014, 10:50 PM
Thanks for this useless thread!
snake
06-21-2014, 10:55 PM
Every turtle fan I know in real life knows about it.
They all think it sucks, but they know about it.
Zulithe
06-21-2014, 11:36 PM
too early to say, I think they would have started it by now if not for Transformers 4, they are trying to focus on it right now and the push for TMNT will come the following week.
They are cutting it close though
Powder
06-22-2014, 12:05 AM
Regardless of my opinion of the film on a creative level, I think it's not so much the amount of marketing that is an issue, but rather how poor what they have done is. Lots of recycled stock art (with nonsensical anatomy), bad photoshop jobs, many inconsistencies, being vague about the movie, etc.
Leo656
06-22-2014, 12:31 AM
Honestly? It makes me feel thusly: They got nothin', they know they got nothin', and they're so afraid of backlash that they don't even WANT to expose the movie to too many people before it comes out. Try and think back to all the stuff we've seen over the last year about the movie, alllll the different things we've seen that have influenced our opinions for better or worse... and how precious little of that has been anything official, anything we were "supposed" to see. Just leaks, leaks, and more leaks, until finally, they meekly pop out a couple mostly-identical trailers that only serve to be even more polarizing.
I just think it's funny that in like, March/April, people were swearing up and down that Platinum Dunes would be blitzing the landscape with advertising by June, and they haven't. There are only two explanations, both pretty plausible: They're afraid they're sitting on a bomb, OR, most of the money that was cut from the budget came from the advertising budget. And that very well could be, as it's usually the first thing to go.
The movie business is very much pay-to-play. The movies that get big hype do big business, those that don't get the hype don't make the money, it's as cut-and-dry as that. It doesn't absolutely mean the movie is bad, but it doesn't display any confidence at all on the part of the people who made it. Point blank, in the entertainment industry, when you have something everyone's gonna want a piece of, you make damn sure everyone on Earth and beyond knows about it. For whatever else the movie might be, the marketing itself for it has been abysmal.
Refractive Reflections
06-22-2014, 02:35 AM
I kind of thought Nickelodeon was taking the promotion/marketing seriously after reading this thread:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=47849
...But the timing is oddly suspicious though for a film's production budget of $125 million with only 7 weeks left to the release date, and the vagueness of the film's details still at this point (as Powder mentioned above).
pennydreadful
06-22-2014, 03:13 AM
Honestly? Sometimes... like this:
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Angry_7c0934_660289.gif
But maybe I'm just being an overly entitled fan (haha). :P
Seriously, now that we're at the 6 week mark, I'm calming down a bit - the countdown's nearly at an end; one way or another, we'll get what's coming to us. *shrugs*
Though I can't be held responsible for any bouts of nerdrage which may occur if they pull another paint swatches stunt. :lol:
NinjaPug
06-22-2014, 07:45 AM
It's not the lack of marketing that pisses me off. It's the quality of marketing that we're getting. It's like Paramount just used interns for marketing this movie.
CyberCubed
06-22-2014, 08:09 AM
The movie is already hated by TMNT fans so they probably figure it's not worth spending money on advertising
Zulithe
06-22-2014, 08:13 AM
Lots of transformers fans have issues with the TF films too, they aren't trying to sell the movie to the hardcore fans who they know will nitpick every change, but to the ones who probably remember bits and pieces of it from their childhood and want something action-packed to go see. Also kids.
Xiewin
06-22-2014, 08:22 AM
The movie is already hated by TMNT fans so they probably figure it's not worth spending money on advertising
I do not hate this movie...
TheSkeletonMan939
06-22-2014, 08:28 AM
The very little marketing we do get for this film is complete and utter ****. The trailers (at least the released ones) are non-informative and if nothing else make me want to see the film less.
Overall I just think the studio regrets having ever made this film. It makes me feel like if the company pumping millions into the film doesn't even care about whether it fails or not, why should I think it's any good?
sh3llshocked
06-22-2014, 08:28 AM
A lot of people don't hate this movie, but the few that do love to make their presence know.
CharmedSerenity
06-22-2014, 08:30 AM
I do not hate this movie...
Neither do I. In fact despite what little we've been getting, I'm excited for this movie.
chrisdude
06-22-2014, 08:30 AM
I've never watched a promotional campaign this closely, so it's hard to compare. But I'm not mad. The only thing upsetting me is that trailer 3 is in theaters, but not online.
Seemed like a lot of people were hearing about the movie for the first time, through promos during the NBA tournament. That's late. At the same time, I don't think you need to know about a movie five months in advance to want to see it. The movie needs to be fresh in people's minds by the time it comes out.
But we're not talking about a movie that's had no promotion. This movie has trailers, TV spots, and deals with the X-Games, Crush soda, and that music festival the hip kids like. Heck, I saw a movie promo in Barnes and Noble, the other day. I think people are blowing this out of proportion by comparing the marketing campaign to that of the biggest movies in the world, instead of movies with a $125 mil budget.
And I still don't buy the idea that they're trying to cover up a stinker, when their promos and trailers specifically highlight everything that's been controversial.
CyberCubed
06-22-2014, 08:52 AM
The movie will completely tank. I wish there was some way to prevent its release .
Whatswiththeheadbands?
06-22-2014, 08:58 AM
I do not hate this movie...
Nor do I...
sethmartin
06-22-2014, 09:40 AM
The movie is NOT going to tank. Even if it doesn't do as well as the other summer blockbusters, it's still going to make huge money both in America and overseas.
NinjaPug
06-22-2014, 09:57 AM
The movie is NOT going to tank. Even if it doesn't do as well as the other summer blockbusters, it's still going to make huge money both in America and overseas.
What do you consider to be huge money?
Lots of transformers fans have issues with the TF films too, they aren't trying to sell the movie to the hardcore fans who they know will nitpick every change, but to the ones who probably remember bits and pieces of it from their childhood and want something action-packed to go see. Also kids.
That's the Michael Bay method. Grab the rights to something the 20/30-somethings have nostalgia for, make "Explosions: The Movie" for the 78th time, cash in.
And if the bar hadn't been raised on this sort of thing so much by the Marvel movies, maybe a lot of us wouldn't be so cynical about it. Because there's a way to truly honour the characters and source material while also making a truly great action movie. You can satisfy the fans and the casual audience at the same time - it just takes a lot more thought and care than it seems like the people making this movie could be bothered to put into it.
TheSkeletonMan939
06-22-2014, 10:47 AM
That's the Michael Bay method. Grab the rights to something the 20/30-somethings have nostalgia for, make "Explosions: The Movie" for the 78th time, cash in.
And if the bar hadn't been raised on this sort of thing so much by the Marvel movies, maybe a lot of us wouldn't be so cynical about it. Because there's a way to truly honour the characters and source material while also making a truly great action movie. You can satisfy the fans and the casual audience at the same time - it just takes a lot more thought and care than it seems like the people making this movie could be bothered to put into it.
Exactly. The reason the Marvel films have been great so far is that the people running them are comic book fans. They actually like the characters, the story, and the lore. Missteps like Iron Man 3 stem from non-comic-book lovers trying to make these films. They can't.
I doubt Michael Bay or Jon Liebesman ever cared about the TMNT. I bet they didn't even know it started as a comic book rather than an 80's cartoon. They don't care about the property, and just want to make another explosions movie that stupid twelve-year-olds will go and watch. That became clear when some quick and easy sex appeal was shoved in (aka Megan Fox). Fox may be a turtles fan, as someone will no doubt point out to me, but the people running the film likely are not.
ObiWanFan4life
06-22-2014, 12:07 PM
I might be alone on this opinion, but I'm puzzled. I'm still going to see the movie, but the lack of effort put into promoting this movie makes it seem as if Paramount has little to no faith in the project. Now granted, this is just MY opinion and Paramount could just be waiting for Transformers 4 to be released, but I still get the feeling that the studio knows that they may have a stinker on their hands and are ashamed of the product.
fridaynightdestination
06-22-2014, 12:14 PM
It's annoying. It makes me afraid the movie won't do well. There actually is a chance that terrible looking Step It Up: All In movie might beat it because Step Up, sadly, has a fanbase that is loyal, and half of the TMNT fanbase doesn't even wanna see this movie for some reason.
Chris_a_Bunga
06-22-2014, 12:14 PM
you know though... I have seen more for TMNT than I have seen for the new Planet of the Apes... and that is coming out sooner, and something I thought was going to be real big.. I am seeing a lot of Turtles stuff now, seen ad for merch in a Marvel comic last week (which I found surprising), finally seeing the toys, posters, and Crush sodas at the stores.
I think the only reason we care so much is because we want to know everything about it because we are scared it's gonna be really bad, but honestly I'd rather know too little than too much before seeing it. On top of not being very good, The Amazing Spiderman 2 was completely ruined by too much marketing, I literally saw every single spiderman part months before seeing it, and even if I end up hating the new Turtles movie, I'd much rather at least be surprised by what I see, good or bad.
We've seen the characters, in toys and in action.. chill out and wait for the movie dudes.
Chris_a_Bunga
06-22-2014, 12:16 PM
...Also I have a pretty good feeling that people are going to want them to stop the heavy promotion as soon as Transformers comes out this week.....:ohwell:
chrisdude
06-22-2014, 12:43 PM
you know though... I have seen more for TMNT than I have seen for the new Planet of the Apes... and that is coming out sooner, and something I thought was going to be real big.. I am seeing a lot of Turtles stuff now, seen ad for merch in a Marvel comic last week (which I found surprising), finally seeing the toys, posters, and Crush sodas at the stores.
I think the only reason we care so much is because we want to know everything about it because we are scared it's gonna be really bad, but honestly I'd rather know too little than too much before seeing it. On top of not being very good, The Amazing Spiderman 2 was completely ruined by too much marketing, I literally saw every single spiderman part months before seeing it, and even if I end up hating the new Turtles movie, I'd much rather at least be surprised by what I see, good or bad.
We've seen the characters, in toys and in action.. chill out and wait for the movie dudes.Apes actually has a comparable budget of $120 million, but I haven't heard anyone weeping about their marketing, or comparing it to the biggest movie machine on the planet...
DioLeo451
06-22-2014, 01:15 PM
Honestly it started to bug me but now with July being the full tmnt blowout It just gets me more and more excited like really excited this is pretty rare when it come to most summer blockbusters this happened with Transformers 2007 remember they had teasers and cars on set then as we got closer and closer to the films release they started amping up it's debut same with this film and you know what it was well worth it so idk maybe the lack of things being shown is a good thing means they care they want to take their time make sure everything is perfect
rickwj324
06-22-2014, 01:23 PM
That's odd...I've seen quite a few commercials on tv for the new Apes movie but I haven't seen a single commercial for TMNT. If not for the internet I wouldn't have seen a single trailer for it.
Rick
TheSkeletonMan939
06-22-2014, 01:35 PM
maybe the lack of things being shown is a good thing means they care they want to take their time make sure everything is perfect
Ha! They're taking their time, all right.
No, anyone who is interested in promoting their movie would be doing a lot more. If the studio wanted to make sure everything was "perfect" they would have started showing ads for the film a looong time ago.
DioLeo451
06-22-2014, 02:36 PM
Ha! They're taking their time, all right.
No, anyone who is interested in promoting their movie would be doing a lot more. If the studio wanted to make sure everything was "perfect" they would have started showing ads for the film a looong time ago.
But why know one had any faith in the project to begin with so why go through all that just for a plethora of negative responses?
samxsteal
06-22-2014, 02:43 PM
Ha! They're taking their time, all right.
No, anyone who is interested in promoting their movie would be doing a lot more. If the studio wanted to make sure everything was "perfect" they would have started showing ads for the film a looong time ago.
If they dont have faith in the product then they wouldn't have soon to be 4 trailers at all they wouldn't have featured it in a tmnt book, they wouldn't have art work and posters and stand-ies in move theaters, they would have the trailers during NBA finals or on nick, they would have the most expensive batch of TMNT lego sets be exclusively movie based
Leo656
06-22-2014, 03:02 PM
Faulty logic, though, my dude. They're obligated to try and recoup their investment whether their internal feelings about the movie are positive or negative.
By every single account, WB knew that Green Lantern was going to be a spectacular failure months before it was released (and I actually don't hate that movie). They still went all-in on in it, with a Super Bowl spot, lots of toys, etc. etc. Because hope. Even if a studio makes a movie that they know is likely going to be bad, it's their job to push it, cross-market it, and eventually, make back twice the money they spent on it, even if it takes twenty years to do so.
And again, before anyone jumps in accusing me of saying things I'm not saying: All I mean is, the studio would pimp the movie even IF it sucks, because it's their job. It doesn't mean the movie IS bad. It means that even if it causes Super-Ass-Cancer in everyone who watches it, the studio will stand behind it. Saying "If they thought it was bad they wouldn't have this and that for it" just isn't true.
That's odd...I've seen quite a few commercials on tv for the new Apes movie but I haven't seen a single commercial for TMNT. If not for the internet I wouldn't have seen a single trailer for it.
Yeah, pretty much the same. I saw the TMNT trailer in the theatre once (funny enough, the sound went out), but I've seen the Apes trailer and ads for that movie several times.
TMNT is cooler than MOTU
06-22-2014, 03:41 PM
Faulty logic, though, my dude. They're obligated to try and recoup their investment whether their internal feelings about the movie are positive or negative.
By every single account, WB knew that Green Lantern was going to be a spectacular failure months before it was released (and I actually don't hate that movie). They still went all-in on in it, with a Super Bowl spot, lots of toys, etc. etc. Because hope. Even if a studio makes a movie that they know is likely going to be bad, it's their job to push it, cross-market it, and eventually, make back twice the money they spent on it, even if it takes twenty years to do so.
And again, before anyone jumps in accusing me of saying things I'm not saying: All I mean is, the studio would pimp the movie even IF it sucks, because it's their job. It doesn't mean the movie IS bad. It means that even if it causes Super-Ass-Cancer in everyone who watches it, the studio will stand behind it. Saying "If they thought it was bad they wouldn't have this and that for it" just isn't true.
Precisely. If they didn't advertise due to low quality, then we'd never see another Adam Sandler trailer again.:tlol:
rickwj324
06-22-2014, 03:41 PM
It means that even if it causes Super-Ass-Cancer in everyone who watches it, the studio will stand behind it.
Leo... you made me laugh out loud with that statement!! :lol:
ranger_scout
06-22-2014, 03:46 PM
When Transformers: Age of Extinction is released, the heavy marketing for TMNT will most likely begin. That's probably what happened with G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra after Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was released.
The movie will completely tank. I wish there was some way to prevent its release .
We don't know what the box office numbers will be like until we get close to opening weekend.
Leo656
06-22-2014, 03:47 PM
Leo... you made me laugh out loud with that statement!! :lol:
I'm apparently on a roll today. :lol:
chrisdude
06-22-2014, 04:00 PM
Faulty logic, though, my dude. They're obligated to try and recoup their investment whether their internal feelings about the movie are positive or negative.
By every single account, WB knew that Green Lantern was going to be a spectacular failure months before it was released (and I actually don't hate that movie). They still went all-in on in it, with a Super Bowl spot, lots of toys, etc. etc. Because hope. Even if a studio makes a movie that they know is likely going to be bad, it's their job to push it, cross-market it, and eventually, make back twice the money they spent on it, even if it takes twenty years to do so.
And again, before anyone jumps in accusing me of saying things I'm not saying: All I mean is, the studio would pimp the movie even IF it sucks, because it's their job. It doesn't mean the movie IS bad. It means that even if it causes Super-Ass-Cancer in everyone who watches it, the studio will stand behind it. Saying "If they thought it was bad they wouldn't have this and that for it" just isn't true.I've used the same reasoning several times, but to debunk this idea that the movie is being poorly promoted because the studio is afraid or ashamed.
And, again. They didn't have to put the two humvee takedowns in the promos. They didn't have to give us a close-up, unmasked view of Mikey's face. They didn't have to allude to an altered origin. And they certainly didn't have to unveil the Shredderzord. I honestly feel like these promotions have been purposely and boldly, in-your-face, like "DEAL WITH IT," from the get-go. And I don't see how anyone could look at those commercials and trailers and think that these guys are afraid of backlash.
UGHShellshocked
06-22-2014, 04:21 PM
I can't hate what I really haven't seen yet. The trailer and tv spot that I have seen doesn't really show me much and until I see the upcoming trailer or a trailer that doesn't show me the same **** over and over again then its an F for the Marketing Team.
The Marketing sucks from their use of paint swatches, internet memes and fan art photoshops has been abysmal.
Warhorse
06-22-2014, 04:25 PM
The movie will completely tank. I wish there was some way to prevent its release .
And now, when it does flop, the blame won't be because the movie may be bad, or that people just weren't digging the revamped look of the Turtles, or the story being so very different from past incarnations, but the blame will be on the marketing.
IndigoErth
06-22-2014, 04:38 PM
I doubt Michael Bay or Jon Liebesman ever cared about the TMNT. I bet they didn't even know it started as a comic book rather than an 80's cartoon. They don't care about the property, and just want to make another explosions movie that stupid twelve-year-olds will go and watch.
Some of my thoughts exactly... Too many of those involved at the core of it don't appear to be from the generation that gives a damn about it. The director is potentially on the older edge of the original TMNT generation, but apparently he's originally from South Africa and didn't step foot on U.S. soil until 1996 (at age 20?) so I have doubts about how much he might have even been exposed to it as a kid, if at all. (When did TMNT get to South Africa?)
If this whole thing had been in the hands of really only those who "get it" and know where the lines are on making changes it would probably be guaranteed incredible. Some of these folks that want to do these kinds of films need to stick to those franchises they were there for and have an understanding of.
Step Up, sadly, has a fanbase that is loyal, and half of the TMNT fanbase doesn't even wanna see this movie for some reason.
I think individual reasons at this point are pretty clear, given how much it's been gone over. And I doubt it's a loyalty issue. On the contrary I'd be willing to bet that loyalty is itself partly at the heart of why some won't go see it if they feel that choices made for this film have not done proper justice for these characters.
I could be counted within that group... I will see it eventually, when my dollars aren't going to the people who I believe decided to go through with the choices I don't support, because it's the makers who will benifit from it, not TMNT... The Turtles aren't going anywhere no matter how well the movie does or doesn't do.
Personal opinion, I don't think it will do horribly or anything. Even if it doesn't end up doing otherworldly levels of fantastic due to competition, interest, advertising... I'm sure it will still at least hold it's own ok.
Placing my bets on being swamped by marketing very soon.
Chris_a_Bunga
06-22-2014, 04:44 PM
just saw this one facebook.
TigerClaw
06-22-2014, 04:53 PM
I think the lack of marketing is because, They are holding for something that will blow people away when they see it. How often you see something happen where they hold back on showing sometime, And when they finally reveal it, People were surprised by how good it looked.
pennydreadful
06-22-2014, 04:55 PM
And now, when it does flop, the blame won't be because the movie may be bad, or that people just weren't digging the revamped look of the Turtles, or the story being so very different from past incarnations, but the blame will be on the marketing.
Nah, the blame will be on the "rabid, negative fans" for not giving it a chance. :lol: j/k
Redeemer
06-22-2014, 04:58 PM
I think the lack of marketing is because, They are holding for something that will blow people away when they see it. How often you see something happen where they hold back on showing sometime, And when they finally reveal it, People were surprised by how good it looked.
X-Men Days of Futures Past comes to mind. That movie flew in under the radar until about the final week. But that turned out to be a great movie. Far exceeded most people's expections.
TheSkeletonMan939
06-22-2014, 05:01 PM
X-Men Days of Futures Past comes to mind. That movie flew in under the radar until about the final week.
... it did?
NinjaPug
06-22-2014, 05:07 PM
... it did?
Yeah, not sure where he's getting that from. They had the full cast at SDCC promoting the film 10 months prior to release. They had 24 exclusive covers released for Empire. Their director continually tweeted updates/images during production. They had the terrible Hardee's commercials. They had tons of promotional images and websites dedicated to the history of the Sentinel program. This is just off the top of my head and not including the multiple trailers and TV spots.
chrisdude
06-22-2014, 05:12 PM
Leibesman did say that he grew up watching TMNT in South Africa, in that old webcam interview with Collider. But I'm sure nobody believes it, because it's positive.
I'm not saying that the people in charge shouldn't be TMNT fans, (I'd feel better if I knew they were) but we did have TMNT 2007, which was the other extreme. Where Laird was the one involved, and he literally gave the director a list of rules. Kind of like how I had my doubts about the director of Sucker Punch and 300 at the helm of Man of Steel, but I could only complain so much after Superman Returns was written, directed and produced by Superman Movie Fan #1 Bryan Singer. Seemed like a natural next move...
Donatello19
06-22-2014, 05:13 PM
just saw this one facebook.
Nice to see that they put Donnie front and center, they never do that! Hope I see one of these displays in my theater, would be awesome.
IndigoErth
06-22-2014, 05:21 PM
Leibesman did say that he grew up watching TMNT in South Africa, in that old webcam interview with Collider. But I'm sure nobody believes it, because it's positive.
Ah, ok, cool then. Really wasn't sure quite how international it was back in a day.
Coola Yagami
06-22-2014, 05:44 PM
Yeah, not sure where he's getting that from. They had the full cast at SDCC promoting the film 10 months prior to release. They had 24 exclusive covers released for Empire. Their director continually tweeted updates/images during production. They had the terrible Hardee's commercials. They had tons of promotional images and websites dedicated to the history of the Sentinel program. This is just off the top of my head and not including the multiple trailers and TV spots.
They already had the big X posters with Xavier and Magneto on the walls when we went to see The Wolverine....
Leolead
06-22-2014, 06:59 PM
My main issue with the marketing is that every image they release is always lazily done like copy and paste images it's really annoying every image is recycled from another image, and half the time were not even suppose to see the Turtles, i mean their leaks.
MastahShredder
06-22-2014, 07:09 PM
It's the unreleased TV spots and trailers. Why air them all over and not take 30 seconds to upload them online? You'd be getting people pumped and it costs absolutely nothing to do. That, I still don't get. :ohwell:
kolaida
06-22-2014, 07:41 PM
My AT&T guy was talking it about the other day, when he was explaining the channels and all the other stuff he installed, he said how there were a lot of old school cartoons coming back and even a new ninja turtle movie coming out this year. So I guess the marketing is doing something, even if there isn't a lot
IndigoErth
06-22-2014, 07:47 PM
It's the unreleased TV spots and trailers. Why air them all over and not take 30 seconds to upload them online? You'd be getting people pumped and it costs absolutely nothing to do. That, I still don't get. :ohwell:
Yeah, you'd think at least on the movie's own darn website. They have done surprisingly little with that site, esp compared to all the fun stuff many other movie sites often include. Hm. :ohwell:
snooz
06-22-2014, 09:03 PM
Posted this in the GOTG thread.. but it works for this thread too.. curious what the responses would be. There are so many threads with pretty much the same discussion.. but it seemed like it should go here too.
I was hanging out with a friend the other night who is not a comic booky/nerd guy whatsoever, and really not much of a movie guy at all. He obviously knows about the upcoming TMNT movie, if for no other reason than because we are friends and he knows I love TMNT, and have talked to him about the new movie. But being that it is such a hot topic on this forum, I thought I would ask him if he's heard of the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy movie. He hadn't, didn't even recognize the title. I described some of it to him from the trailer, still didn't ring a bell. I thought that was interesting, considering how so many here think that GOTG has TMNT dominated in the marketing dept.
Perhaps.. just a theory.. the marketing team knows that the TMNT name is going to do a lot of the heavy lifting for this movie. A good trailer on TV 3-4 weeks ahead of release might be all they really need.
I know I am basing it off of one person, but I would consider him a very average person. There are probably many like him who have no clue what GOTG is. When doing battle with the TMNT nostalgia factor, I really think it is going to have a hard time. Yes, people who are really into movies, who are seeking out info on upcoming released, they have heard about GOTG and have seen what they've put out so far. But really, the average movie-goer is not and never will seek that out, but the day that the first TMNT trailer dropped, it spread like wildfire.
This marketing team isn't catering to the next level TMNT/movie fans like us. But they aren't hurting their chances at winning the GOTG vs TMNT battle in August, in my opinion. The average movie-goer is the one who makes up the vast majority, we are a small minority.
Shark_Blade
06-22-2014, 09:11 PM
There's trailers on youtube and cinemas. THat's more than enough tbh.
samxsteal
06-22-2014, 09:18 PM
Posted this in the GOTG thread.. but it works for this thread too.. curious what the responses would be. There are so many threads with pretty much the same discussion.. but it seemed like it should go here too.
I agree with this many people, like the large majority dont see trailers online they see it on tv or at the movies and tmnt has both those markets
graphic_content
06-22-2014, 11:48 PM
How does it make me feel?
Like sitting in a corner, in a fetal position, eating tacos from jack in the box until the pain goes away or my dad is proud of me (I'll take either), jk'ing
Seriously tho, I started the 'Summer of Turtles' thread because I took a step back and realized just how MUCH is going on right now by way of the Turtles.
We ALL have to realize that the marketing happening isn't for us, the super fans who are happy to talk Turtles 24/7...it's for the casual fans, and the casual moviegoers who are on the fence about where to spend their 15 dollars, and two hours of their time. It's the reason the trailers are cut the way they are, to pander to summer, action-lusting, turn off my brain crowd (which isn't a bad thing), but keep in mind those same people may not be tried and true TMNT fans. Just people wanting to be entertained.
Would I like them to release more footage, sure. I certainly wouldn't say no if they offered to show a whole 10 mins tomorrow, but I've waited this long, what's a little longer. Patience is a virtue I don't have, but I'll be damned if I'm not trying, :D
::smashes guitar, walks off stage::
How do I feel?
What a crock of ****!
Gimme_Three
06-24-2014, 03:58 AM
Posted this in the GOTG thread.. but it works for this thread too.. curious what the responses would be. There are so many threads with pretty much the same discussion.. but it seemed like it should go here too.
I said the exact same thing a couple weeks back. People compared TMNT to every movie that came out this summer. Godzilla had images and a trailer out a year in advance; Godzilla came and went nothing super special. Spiderman shown a lot of footage through all their trailers. Spiderman came and went and it turns out they showed to much.
IMO this marketing team know what they are doing. They are dealing with a franchise that's globally known and they can't use the same strategy as everyone else. GOTG is going to have to spam and market extremely hard to get "casuals" to be interested.
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