View Full Version : Michelangelo- Nunchukas or Grappling Hook
Deathknight
06-25-2002, 11:04 AM
I know that most of you probably know that starting in season 4 Michelangelo started using a grapling hook instead of his nunchukas as a weapon. Anyone know why they did this? Personally I liked the nunchukas much better and think the grapling hook just wasn't a good weapon. Usually all the tough villians would just break through it anyway.
Well, there are a few reasons I can think of. S&P had a problem with nunchaku. They are dangerous weapons (like swords sai aren't :roll: ) that are easily simulated. In a few countries, and states here in the US, they are nearly illegal.
Also, they are pretty hard to draw in action, much less animate (as someone pointed out to me.)
Mike hasn't always used his nunchucks. In the third episode A Thing About Rats, he uses mankiki gusari (might be spelled wrong, I'm too lazy to check) against the Foot robots.
SeaThreePeeO
06-25-2002, 12:01 PM
Over here in the UK the Nunchucks were considered to violent. Hmmmm??
Kali is right about Michaelangelo and his use of the Manriki Gusari as a weapon. He even used it in a mirage comic issue, although he stated that he prefered his chucks
azure turtle
06-25-2002, 02:23 PM
Yep! I just watched my vid that had the ep "A Thing About Rats," and Mikey did indeed use the manriki gusari. Coolness! :smile: I certainly hope he'll be using his 'chucks for the new cartoon. It'd be tragic if he were censored yet again.
Samantha
06-25-2002, 03:11 PM
I know what you're saying Azure. Hopefully with cartoons being a bit darker (like Batman, Justice League) we'll all get our wish. *wishes upon a star* :grin:
Loolaa
06-25-2002, 11:11 PM
Hopefully the censors will have calmed down a little and just let it pass.
Ratking
06-25-2002, 11:16 PM
In the ep "a thing about rats" mike also uses his nunchucks as well, which is werid (there must be alot of room in his belt).
http://www.entertheninja.com/ninja_weapons/manriki_gusari.html
Skeletoncrew
06-26-2002, 12:30 AM
Cool link! Thanks for posting it Rat King! I had no idea what Manriki-Gusari were!
HorseTechie
06-26-2002, 10:18 AM
*has a flash back from The Enforcer where Jet Li slings around a fire hose at his attackers* mm... ;p
Well, manriki gusari are a very compact weapon. I could fit one easily in my jeans pocket. All balled up, it could fit in the palm of my hand (and I have small-ish hands.) I don't think it would be much of a problem for Mike to keep one in a belt pocket.
Enter The Ninja - I love that site!
TMNT Freakazoid
07-03-2002, 01:10 PM
I was wondering what S&P was?? :-?
it was the second reply for this topic
S&P stand for Standards and Practices (I think.) Anyway, it's those TV people that decide what can and cannot be shown on TV. They come up with the ratings too, I think. Shows have to pass their inspection before things get put on the air, or even go into production in some cases.
TMNT Freakazoid
07-03-2002, 01:38 PM
O ok thanks for the info :D
Skeletoncrew
07-03-2002, 01:57 PM
Heh heh heh. I think they should make ME the head honcho of S&P. :evilgrin:
Loolaa
07-03-2002, 02:30 PM
And so help us all if they did... :P :wink:
SeaThreePeeO
07-03-2002, 03:32 PM
*has a flash back from The Enforcer where Jet Li slings around a fire hose at his attackers* mm... ;p
Didn't he do that in Romeo Must Die aswell? :-?
TMNT Freakazoid
07-04-2002, 06:09 PM
And so help us all if they did... :P :wink:
haha my point exactly :P
Kingkapong
07-04-2002, 07:47 PM
:sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
azure turtle
07-07-2002, 01:26 AM
I don't remember Jet Li using a fire hose in Romeo Must Die...
*takes a swig of Mountain Dew*
Deathknight
07-07-2002, 02:49 PM
I watched Donatello Makes Time today and Michelangelo actually uses both his grapling hook and nunchukus in that ep. I never noticed that until today.
azure turtle
07-07-2002, 05:19 PM
Donatello makes time? I think I have that ep. Is it the one that's included in the Donatello Gets His Degree video?
Deathknight
07-07-2002, 06:48 PM
yeah that's the one but I have all the episodes on tape but some of them are taped off of USA. But I do have some of the FHE volumes. Right now I'm working on getting the full versions of the eps that were taped off of USA whether it be getting the divx or FHE volumes.
Wicko
07-08-2002, 02:58 PM
what is michelangelo without his nunchucks :(
Deathknight
07-08-2002, 04:58 PM
Well he almost never used em in season 4 and after that he didn't use em period so you can basically say he was a "new" michelangelo using a stupid grapling hook that almost always failed to do it's job hehe.
It was really unfortunate, because as useful as a grappling hook is, it's still a tool in the ninja inventory and not a weapon. Stupid censors. Fortunately, they seem to have loosened up in recent years and we'll probably see Mike's chucks in action in the new cartoon.
Bowser_Koopa
07-09-2002, 02:30 PM
here i have a pic a mikey and his manriki gusari (ttp://www.datazap.net/free/bowser-koopa/teenage%20mutant%20ninja%20turtles.jpg)
Nturtle
07-09-2002, 03:47 PM
Yikes!! when I tried your link a bunch of weird errors came up!! It was scary!!! :(
R-iZZy
07-09-2002, 04:57 PM
Hopefully the censors will have calmed down a little and just let it pass.
geez, if they let naked butts with clothing down the middle allowed on television, i think they'll let nunchukus allowed on the screen as well.
nunchukus hurt physically :cry: , but bare butts hurt emotionally :o
azure turtle
07-09-2002, 05:16 PM
LOL!!! :lol: Okay, you've got a good point there...
*snicker*
R-iZZy
07-09-2002, 07:35 PM
thank u
Skeletoncrew
07-10-2002, 12:14 AM
It all depends upon whose bare butt it is.
SeaThreePeeO
07-10-2002, 02:20 AM
I don't remember Jet Li using a fire hose in Romeo Must Die...
*takes a swig of Mountain Dew*
He did! He did! I should know I have watched that scene like a hundred times. It is after he gets caught by that fat man that calls him Dim San and the try to kill him in the warehouse place.
*Skips off to watch it again*
azure turtle
07-10-2002, 03:40 AM
Oh ya, I remember now!
*slaps his forehead*
Bowser_Koopa
07-10-2002, 06:51 AM
ok i fixed the link :D, here it is (http://www.datazap.net/free/bowser-koopa/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles.jpg) is a very cool wall paper :) , and bout the barely naked butts, have u seen the super duper sumos, if not, don't, or your eyes will start bleeding.
miss mab
07-10-2002, 03:07 PM
Dagg...raph has some large canine insicors. O_o
Cool piccy though. As for chucks, I think its pretty likely censors will have lightened up by now considering all what else is on tv these days. O.o
azure turtle
07-10-2002, 04:08 PM
Oh, I love that pic! I had it as wallpaper for my other comp. Too bad it's still broken...argh.
speedracer
07-11-2002, 01:54 PM
In the ep "a thing about rats" mike also uses his nunchucks as well, which is werid (there must be alot of room in his belt).
http://www.entertheninja.com/ninja_weapons/manriki_gusari.html
You can put a lot of stuff in those shells, you know.
Anyway, it's safe to say Michaelangelo is a master of lots of whirling things. (However, there are plenty of earlier episodes where all four turtles have grappling hooks.)
Also remember, "you're no match for Raphael, master of the manhole cover!"
Ninja train in a wide variety of weapons and other techniques, so their fighting style can be very flexible. In gear, ninja usually have several weapons on them and won't hesitate to use manhole covers (if they can lift them), garbage cans, or anything to defend themselves.
miss mab
07-11-2002, 07:25 PM
It is said a ninja is a master of his environment and can make most around objects into possible weapons. :P
HorseTechie
07-12-2002, 10:42 AM
heheh... and even in the ol Pallidium RPG book, Mike is listed to have expertise with seven different kinds of weapons! :D
miss mab
07-12-2002, 10:49 AM
I would think he would. I mean heck, if you can manage nunchucks without clubbing yourself in the limb while fighting a fast opponent, I would think most would be a bit easier to handle. O_o
I forget...what were the weapons he used in NM? Its probably been said already but names I bad with. O_o
Tonfas. They're like the clubs some cops carry around.
miss mab
07-12-2002, 01:15 PM
Yeah. Those thingies. :3
I'm thinking, if you are a master of those weapons and can deflect weapons like swords and sais and other sharp pointies(which theoretically can be done if you're skilled) then dagg...
Never underestimate wooden objects coming at your head. O_o
Bowser_Koopa
07-12-2002, 01:50 PM
http://www.ninaturtles.com/gallery/ntmike.jpg mmm..... i preffer the nunchucks :) (i hope i'm not abusing the bbcode O.o)
Snow White
07-12-2002, 02:21 PM
Even though Mike will still be Mike with or without his 'chucks, I would like to see them used in the new cartoon. Personally, I think that shows on TV have had lots of new graphic violence that didn't exist when the show was taken off the air. So I'm wishin' and hopin' and dreamin' that Mike gets his 'chucks back!
miss mab
07-12-2002, 04:52 PM
Dont get me wrong, I'm hoping for chucks too.
*looks at Mike piccy* :3 I do like Tonfas though...if I had to learn a weapon, I'd choose them. They look nifty. :3
Snow White
07-12-2002, 06:13 PM
Hmmm...they do look quite nifty. If I was learning to use a weapon though, it would be something that I couldn't hurt myself with. Obviously I'm not taking up any kind of weapon training soon! :D
azure turtle
07-12-2002, 06:30 PM
I've always liked the 'chucks. I hope that Mikey gets to use them in the new 'toon, too. :anime:
Deathknight
07-14-2002, 06:37 PM
Yeah lets hope that the animators will let Mikey finally use his chucks once again. I really got tired of seeing him using his grapling hook. It was such a poor quality weapon. Grapling hooks are for climbing to high places and should never have been used for Mikey's weapon. The Manriki gsauri might have been a little better but I guess they can't do that cause that was one of the Rat King's main weapons I think.
Nickokapo
07-14-2002, 06:57 PM
I prefer the 'chucks over the tonfas or...ugh...grappling hook -.-
I hope he uses the nunchucks in the new toon/movie :evilgrin:
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