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saintsaucey
07-10-2014, 09:50 AM
Wow. Great job to the producers, writers, director and actors in the show. I wouldn't have predicted this in a million years but I'm glad it got the nomination.

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NinjaPug
07-10-2014, 09:59 AM
What category?

Edit: Nevermind, I looked it up. Nominated for Outstanding Animated Program.

Shark_Blade
07-10-2014, 10:31 AM
Congrats Wormquake episode! :D

The Turtle Terminator
07-10-2014, 10:38 AM
Wow. They better win:D

Vicky82
07-10-2014, 10:45 AM
Congrats to them

They are up against South Park, Futurama, Archer and Bob's Burgers never heard of the last 2 so could be tough with South Park and Futurama but wait No Simpsons, blimy! thats a first for them to be not nominated.

Luckyday
07-10-2014, 11:10 AM
Congrats to them

They are up against South Park, Futurama, Archer and Bob's Burgers never heard of the last 2 so could be tough with South Park and Futurama but wait No Simpsons, blimy! thats a first for them to be not nominated.

:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vzSc4WBHs

JTH
07-10-2014, 01:39 PM
The other nominations are named in their entirety for the show itself, I'm beginning to wonder someone is confusing the episode "The Manhattan Project" for the name of the show all together.

Because if the show itself is nominated, that's even more awesome.

NinjaPug
07-10-2014, 01:55 PM
The other nominations are named in their entirety for the show itself, I'm beginning to wonder someone is confusing the episode "The Manhattan Project" for the name of the show all together.

Because if the show itself is nominated, that's even more awesome.


No they're not. Each nominee is listed by Show Title and specific episode title.

Coola Yagami
07-10-2014, 02:46 PM
Musta been due to the OT cameos. The tiger claw stuff was awesome but most if the worm stuff was boring.

fridaynightdestination
07-10-2014, 03:23 PM
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3824929-2098917371-tumbl.gif

Congrats! I never thought in a million years a show like this would get Emmy nominated, but that is so awesome! Congrats! I hope it wins.

IndigoErth
07-10-2014, 03:46 PM
The fact that they're alongside other series that are targeted toward more of an adult audience, that is quite awesome and impressive. :D

ZariusTwo
07-10-2014, 04:03 PM
The emmys think this mediocre show is worth something...fair enough, but wait...people think the emmys are worth s*it?

Casey
07-10-2014, 04:42 PM
It's a good episode and a better title. "Wrath of Tiger Claw" though... that episode def deserves an award.

MrTMNT2012
07-10-2014, 04:48 PM
The emmys think this mediocre show is worth something...fair enough, but wait...people think the emmys are worth s*it?

Not just the Emmys, at least 10 million others think the show's worth something also, so you are in quite the minority if you didn't notice...

Refractive Reflections
07-10-2014, 06:07 PM
Found the link if anybody's interested:
http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominees-winners/2014/animation-60-minutes

So after reading a bit on it, the Daytime Emmy Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Children%27s_An imated_Program#2010s) nominates the series for a Children's Animated Show (surprised no one mentioned how Nick TMNT was nominated back in 2013 by the way, yet WASN'T nominated at all in 2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41st_Daytime_Creative_Arts_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding _Children.27s_Animated_Program)), but these Primetime Emmy Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Animated_Prog ram_%28for_Programming_Less_Than_One_Hour%29) nominate only a single episode/special (less than an hour) within any animated series (children's or adults'), and NOT the series as a whole.

The abridged version of the rules are on Wikipedia and it states:

There are two categories for "Outstanding Animated Program", this category, as well as one for "Programming One Hour or More", where the time refers to the broadcast time. Each series is allowed to submit a single episode or a special, and those programs are judged. For the individual people who receive nominations, a series is allowed to submit a maximum of 21 names alongside the episode, including a maximum of four directors, a maximum of three writers and a maximum of fourteen producers.[2]

For many of the Primetime Emmy Award categories, the rules specifically say that animated programs can not be nominated, although some of the Creative arts categories do allow animated programs to be submitted for consideration.[2] However, there have occasionally been programs submitted in the Primetime categories. For example, The Simpsons submitted the episodes "A Streetcar Named Marge" and "Mr. Plow" in the "Outstanding Comedy Series" category in 1993. However, they were not nominated.[3]


So apparently... the series as a whole could be great or horrible, but as long as that one episode/special is good and the committee likes it, it can get nominated.

Considering that "The Manhattan Project" was deemed as the submission for these Emmy awards for a year's worth of episodes, seems to imply that OT nostalgia was a huge factor for it since that was the main event for that special. The worms were not too great, and at that point of the series, TigerClaw was more of a "mutant of the week" before we saw his welcomed vengeful side in "The Wrath of Tiger Claw", so what was left then...? ...It seems like this special tickled the committee's nostalgia bone in all the right places I guess. **shrug**

IndigoErth
07-10-2014, 06:42 PM
The emmys think this mediocre show is worth something...fair enough, but wait...people think the emmys are worth s*it?
Wait, was that an opening for the opportunity to rage and call someone a hater instead of being one? :goof: I kid... opinions and all that.

Though I have to agree/say I'm just "meh" on the awards stuff in general.





Come on... Nick's show is adoreabibble...

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130813142437/tmnt/images/0/0b/When_leo_smiles_i_faint_by_tmntiluvpizza-d6fhy02.gif

Zulithe
07-10-2014, 06:46 PM
It's a good episode and a better title. "Wrath of Tiger Claw" though... that episode def deserves an award.

Well I suppose it could be nominated for nothing at all. I'm glad It got nominated. Any recognition is good.

Sorry you don't like the show. But you aren't going to find many who are going to agree with that opinion here :tlol:

MrTMNT2012
07-10-2014, 06:46 PM
apparently... the series as a whole could be great or horrible, but as long as that one episode/special is good and the committee likes it, it can get nominated.


How in the unholy, belligerent f#ck "Beginnings" from The Legend of Korra wasn't even nominated I may never know until the day I die.

JTH
07-10-2014, 06:53 PM
Wait, was that an opening for the opportunity to rage and call someone a hater instead of being one? :goof: I kid... opinions and all that.

He can have his opinions, but dumbing down someone's work while promoting their own in their sig, no, I don't kid with that. That's not appropriate and that comes off as complete sour grapes.

Anyone wants to undermine another's work, should hide their own.

Powder
07-10-2014, 07:19 PM
The emmys think this mediocre show is worth something...fair enough, but wait...people think the emmys are worth s*it?

Please stay out of the Nick section if all you're gonna do is talk sh*t.

IndigoErth
07-10-2014, 07:50 PM
He can have his opinions, but dumbing down someone's work while promoting their own in their sig, no, I don't kid with that. That's not appropriate and that comes off as complete sour grapes.

Anyone wants to undermine another's work, should hide their own.
Didn't even take note of that... *pokes at ZariusTwo*

snake
07-10-2014, 08:16 PM
That's great! I'd never think an episode would be nominated.

ZariusTwo
07-11-2014, 03:33 AM
My work actually has fans, I've even had fan art based on my stories, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with wanting me to hide my sigs.

I'm proud of my work, I've spent several years working on my projects and they've helped me cope with recovery from a mental illness that almost drove me to suicide in 2010. There is nothing in that which says "sour grapes", just "I have grown as a writer and as a person and I am very self-confident". I'm not going to stop pimping myself just because I slammed a show you enjoy, and if people want to criticize...that's the whole point of writing, to generate divisive opinion. I have a comics writer for a friend and I cannot stand his work on a certain title, but we're still tight despite that. No doubt the people behind this show know full well not everyone will like their output and they're probably not too fussed either given so many more people than the vocal minority enjoy it, just as my writer friend is not fussed if his work proves divisive (even with me), and just as I'm not fussed if you don't like my work because I know plenty of others enjoy it.

To those I annoyed, please don't take it the wrong way, if you like the show, all the more power to you. I know I am in a (glorious) minority. Congratulations to the rest of you for having something to celebrate. It's just not my cup of tea.

BubblyShell22
07-11-2014, 08:48 AM
Powder, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if Zarius wants to give his, he's allowed to do it. You may not agree with him, but that's fine. I don't either. He knows I like the show and despite the fact that he hates it, he's still kind enough to read my stories based on the Nick universe, and it means a lot to me that he can shove aside his bias to review my work. Nothing wrong with that at all. I get so sick of people acting like a negative opinion has no weight and shouldn't be expressed when this forum should be about all opinions. This is why I don't go to the movie thread anymore.

As for the show getting nominated, that's cool though I don't really watch award shows anymore.

The Stryker
07-11-2014, 08:50 AM
Ok. You've made that clear in a number of threads.

Why bother posting in the section if you only want to say 'Ugh this sucks. Ugh. I hate it.' Just don't talk about it if you hate it so much. It ain't that hard.

ZariusTwo
07-11-2014, 09:18 AM
Powder, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if Zarius wants to give his, he's allowed to do it. You may not agree with him, but that's fine. I don't either. He knows I like the show and despite the fact that he hates it, he's still kind enough to read my stories based on the Nick universe, and it means a lot to me that he can shove aside his bias to review my work. Nothing wrong with that at all. I get so sick of people acting like a negative opinion has no weight and shouldn't be expressed when this forum should be about all opinions

Quite right. It's hilarious how, last I checked, the movie thread is 90% negativity and there have been instances where those with a positive outlook have been accused of being corporate plants and trolls...and in the Nick forum you're not allowed to say the slightest thing negative about the show or point out it's irritable adolescense and weak narrative structure and poor characterisations. Why is it one way for one thing (oh right, because Bay hate is the current fashion statement), and one way for another? Why must people conform to a pack mentality just to fit in on here? People should be allowed to have independent thought and not feel "intimidated" by the Neo-Nick fans (I use quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of intimidation is just sad, maybe I should rephrase that to "amused", complete with the quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of amusement is equally just as sad)

I have'nt even read Powder's post, but I don't really give a toss. He and his kind exist only to instigate on this forum.

Thanks Bubbly. I don't go out of my way to say the Nick 'toon is awful out of spite, there are things I do like about it, and if I did'nt 100% beleive that it could be better than it currently is, I would'nt give people who capatalise on strengthening it's potential the time of day, I do so because they're very gifted, as you are, and because they see strengths and oppertunities I wish the show's writers would capatalise on.

Like I said, I'm happy for those who are happy for the show, it's not to my liking, I don't think the emmys are worth anything, but it's another thing to boast about regarding this franchise (and let's be honest, no way is the movie getting an Oscar)

On a final note....JTH, this good enough for you buddy?:P (you'll get the joke)

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnrf6r9gCp1qeyj2to1_500.jpg

Leofan26
07-11-2014, 01:44 PM
Congrats to the writers for the episode being nominated, while it's not one of my favorites that's cool.

Kind of wish they'd have waited for Vengance is Mine to get Nominated instead cuz I felt that one was perfect combination of every thing but that's me, maybe for next year.

Aaronardo
07-11-2014, 03:36 PM
Probably, the only reason Manhattan Project was the only TMNT episode that was nominated for an Emmy is because it's the only episode so far that actually aired on Prime Time (outside of Showdown from last year).
Also, ZariusTwo, please, kindly, f*ck off. You've said that you didn't like the series. Good, fine. But do you have to force it down our throats? You don't have to be like turtlefanforever before he came to his senses. There's sharing your opinion, and then there's taking your opinion and forcing it in everyone's face.
Also, not once have I heard you say anything to back your opinion up. WHAT do you hate about this show? HOW would you fix it? Yes, there are some trip-ups in this series, but you can't judge the show by those trip-ups.
Anyway, that's just my little vent, I could go on longer, but I'd rather not.

JTH
07-11-2014, 03:47 PM
Probably, the only reason Manhattan Project was the only TMNT episode that was nominated for an Emmy is because it's the only episode so far that actually aired on Prime Time (outside of Showdown from last year).
Also, ZariusTwo, please, kindly, f*ck off. You've said that you didn't like the series. Good, fine. But do you have to force it down our throats? You don't have to be like turtlefanforever before he came to his senses. There's sharing your opinion, and then there's taking your opinion and forcing it in everyone's face.
Also, not once have I heard you say anything to back your opinion up. WHAT do you hate about this show? HOW would you fix it? Yes, there are some trip-ups in this series, but you can't judge the show by those trip-ups.
Anyway, that's just my little vent, I could go on longer, but I'd rather not.
Hey, with respect, please drop it.

Me and ZT are chatting and clearing the air about it as I'm posting this right now.

Leo656
07-11-2014, 03:53 PM
Am I "Allowed" to say that I found the specific episode a little mediocre, a bit over-hyped, and a surprising one to get an Emmy nod? Can't think of any off the top of my head, but having just seen this one again the other day, I swear I've seen better ones from this series. It's not "Bad" by itself, I'unno.

Really does seem like it only got any attention because of the gimmick with the OT Turtles. That was my gut reaction, frankly. Just callin' it as I see it.

JTH
07-11-2014, 04:02 PM
Am I "Allowed" to say that I found the specific episode a little mediocre, a bit over-hyped, and a surprising one to get an Emmy nod? Can't think of any off the top of my head, but having just seen this one again the other day, I swear I've seen better ones from this series. It's not "Bad" by itself, I'unno.

Really does seem like it only got any attention because of the gimmick with the OT Turtles. That was my gut reaction, frankly. Just callin' it as I see it.
I agree to an extent, I think the 80s Turtles did help as it brought in some people that hadn't been familiar with the new show.

But personally, I think a newbie "could" see it much more compelling than a causal, because most causals know that the Kraang aren't a true threat, and knew that Karai was already Splinter's daughter; where as a newbie would be shocked by these turn of events.

I think anyone who saw the episode as a stand-alone, probably thinks more of it because they may not know all the little gritty details of the show, and just took in all the action and drama which that was very good.

ZariusTwo
07-11-2014, 05:00 PM
Yes, there are some trip-ups in this series, but you can't judge the show by those trip-ups

If they irk me to a specific extent it can really make or break the enjoyment of a show, and the trip-ups the show has are great enough to prevent me from thinking it's "all that". Because of these, it is'nt a patch on the 4Kids series, which had the correct balance of weird and sophistication, and even when it was dumbed down it felt like it took itself far more seriously than this

The Nick show's popularity with fans baffles me blind. It really does. Especially given the venom spewed in the Bay movie's direction, which I feel is actually more more in line with how I best view the franchise, it reminds me a bit of 4Kids, but is made a target for ire specificly because of the Bay association.

I feel the fans have become more and more juvenile to match the juvenile attitude of the Nick show. Not a healthy mentality. Some of you are capable of rising above it, but some of you just want to live the tone almost.

I don't shove my opinion in people's faces, as I barely post in this section when the show is on, I leave you to your enjoyment most of the time. If anything, it's the Neo-Nick fans insistence that nobody criticize this show that is constantly shoved down everyone's throats.

JTH
07-11-2014, 05:18 PM
The Nick show's popularity with fans baffles me blind. It really does. Especially given the venom spewed in the Bay movie's direction, which I feel is actually more more in line with how I best view the franchise, it reminds me a bit of 4Kids, but is made a target for ire specificly because of the Bay association.
The Bay association I feel is warranted. Michael Bay has lost the benefit of the doubt based on his "reimagining's" of franchises. (Transformers, Nightmare on Elm St., ect.)

The "aliens" thing was a killer for me, now despite the scrapping of the idea, all the rest of the original concept Bay came up with is still there, which scares me to death. Plus if I went to see the movie now after hating the "aliens" idea, it would be a complete contradiction on my part if I was to line his pocket with cash now.

Werecat
07-11-2014, 05:27 PM
I agree that peeps should be allowed to share their opinions. Even if it is criticizing instead of praising the show. All writers who want to grow need to understand and accept criticisms.

Peeps also need to remember that the nick TMNT has been nominated for best animation program and not nominated for the writing quality. The animation quality is the only thing being judged at the Emmys.

I am not surprised that the nick TMNT show has been nominated for its animation 'cause it is superb.

BubblyShell22
07-11-2014, 05:47 PM
Quite right. It's hilarious how, last I checked, the movie thread is 90% negativity and there have been instances where those with a positive outlook have been accused of being corporate plants and trolls...and in the Nick forum you're not allowed to say the slightest thing negative about the show or point out it's irritable adolescense and weak narrative structure and poor characterisations. Why is it one way for one thing (oh right, because Bay hate is the current fashion statement), and one way for another? Why must people conform to a pack mentality just to fit in on here? People should be allowed to have independent thought and not feel "intimidated" by the Neo-Nick fans (I use quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of intimidation is just sad, maybe I should rephrase that to "amused", complete with the quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of amusement is equally just as sad)

I have'nt even read Powder's post, but I don't really give a toss. He and his kind exist only to instigate on this forum.

Thanks Bubbly. I don't go out of my way to say the Nick 'toon is awful out of spite, there are things I do like about it, and if I did'nt 100% beleive that it could be better than it currently is, I would'nt give people who capatalise on strengthening it's potential the time of day, I do so because they're very gifted, as you are, and because they see strengths and oppertunities I wish the show's writers would capatalise on.

Like I said, I'm happy for those who are happy for the show, it's not to my liking, I don't think the emmys are worth anything, but it's another thing to boast about regarding this franchise (and let's be honest, no way is the movie getting an Oscar)

On a final note....JTH, this good enough for you buddy?:P (you'll get the joke)

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnrf6r9gCp1qeyj2to1_500.jpg

No problem, Zar, and I get it, too. I think we should all be allowed to share our opinions no matter what it is and I hate the mentality that if someone truly dislikes something, they can't share that opinion unless it's an opinion that's praising the show. Just so juvenile, and I feel that we're better than that as a forum. Or at least, we should be.

And I also agree that "Vengeance is Mine" should have been nominated rather than "The Manhattan Project" as well. It was so awesome and epic, but I agree that the 80's Turtles cameo probably is what did it.

terrorblade
07-11-2014, 06:49 PM
The emmys think this mediocre show is worth something...fair enough, but wait...people think the emmys are worth s*it?

This a very good criticism. I wonder why anyone would be offended by this.

Powder
07-11-2014, 07:01 PM
I agree that peeps should be allowed to share their opinions. Even if it is criticizing instead of praising the show.

You're new here, so you're clearly not aware that we have numerous members who ONLY post "This show sucks" & nothing more. There's no need to become a broken record, especially when it's just bringing more negativity.

I have no problem with people criticizing anything, it's not like I've only ever had good things to say.

As for Bubbly, well, that's just jammin' & jolly that he reads your fan-fics. Good to know people only defend others' negative behavior because of a bias.

Ok. You've made that clear in a number of threads.

Why bother posting in the section if you only want to say 'Ugh this sucks. Ugh. I hate it.' Just don't talk about it if you hate it so much. It ain't that hard.

This.

Aaronardo
07-11-2014, 08:28 PM
(Just gotta say, Vengeance is Mine and Wrath of Tiger Claw deserve better than this episode... now on with the post)
Granted, Kraang Conspiracy and Pizza Face were pretty abysmal, but Garbageman and Golden Puck were pretty great of failures, as well. I will admit that this show does sometimes have problems, such as the beginnings of each season, which normally pump out mediocore to fine episodes. It's the episodes that come after that that make this show worth watching. I recommend you watch more episodes you missed, because when I don't like a show that I know many people like, I attempt to watch near every episode I can find until I see what everybody's talking about. If this show was nominated for a Daytime Emmy AND an Emmy, they must be doing something right. I'll just leave off with one question: have you seen any great to amazing episodes of the series?

Refractive Reflections
07-11-2014, 09:15 PM
(Just gotta say, Vengeance is Mine and Wrath of Tiger Claw deserve better than this episode... now on with the post)
Granted, Kraang Conspiracy and Pizza Face were pretty abysmal, but Garbageman and Golden Puck were pretty great of failures, as well. I will admit that this show does sometimes have problems, such as the beginnings of each season, which normally pump out mediocore to fine episodes. It's the episodes that come after that that make this show worth watching. I recommend you watch more episodes you missed, because when I don't like a show that I know many people like, I attempt to watch near every episode I can find until I see what everybody's talking about. If this show was nominated for a Daytime Emmy AND an Emmy, they must be doing something right. I'll just leave off with one question: have you seen any great to amazing episodes of the series?

Then again, if the series itself wasn't Daytime Emmy nominated this year (2014), they must be doing something... Well, I think some of us (some a little more vocally than others :P:oops:) have commented how this second season has taken a different direction, and not in the best ways.

Werecat
07-11-2014, 09:27 PM
(Just gotta say, Vengeance is Mine and Wrath of Tiger Claw deserve better than this episode... now on with the post)
Granted, Kraang Conspiracy and Pizza Face were pretty abysmal, but Garbageman and Golden Puck were pretty great of failures, as well. I will admit that this show does sometimes have problems, such as the beginnings of each season, which normally pump out mediocore to fine episodes. It's the episodes that come after that that make this show worth watching. I recommend you watch more episodes you missed, because when I don't like a show that I know many people like, I attempt to watch near every episode I can find until I see what everybody's talking about. If this show was nominated for a Daytime Emmy AND an Emmy, they must be doing something right. I'll just leave off with one question: have you seen any great to amazing episodes of the series?

I would like to mention that TMNT is only nominated for its animation quality and not its writing quality. The writing is decent. The writing quality still has flaws, it is not or near perfection.

Aaronardo
07-12-2014, 09:15 AM
I would like to mention that TMNT is only nominated for its animation quality and not its writing quality. The writing is decent. The writing quality still has flaws, it is not or near perfection.

If it's only nominated for its animation quality, then why did they nominate South Park? It's interesting animation but not even close to good by any means.

Then again, if the series itself wasn't Daytime Emmy nominated this year (2014), they must be doing something... Well, I think some of us (some a little more vocally than others :P:oops:) have commented how this second season has taken a different direction, and not in the best ways.

NOTHING was nominated for a Daytime Emmy this year in animation. It was all Drama shows and crap like that. I guarantee you TMNT would've been nominated for one this year if they had bothered with animation. Also, season 2 hasn't been taking the best direction? Uh, Target: April O'Neil, Slash and Destroy, Good, Bad, Casey Jones, Of Rats and Men, Wormquake, Lonely Mutation, Wrath of Tiger Claw, Legend of Kuro Kabuto, and Vengeance is Mine would like to have a word with you. (Many of those were some of the best episodes of the SERIES)

BubblyShell22
07-12-2014, 09:25 AM
You're new here, so you're clearly not aware that we have numerous members who ONLY post "This show sucks" & nothing more. There's no need to become a broken record, especially when it's just bringing more negativity.

I have no problem with people criticizing anything, it's not like I've only ever had good things to say.

As for Bubbly, well, that's just jammin' & jolly that he reads your fan-fics. Good to know people only defend others' negative behavior because of a bias.



This.

Oh, get over yourself. I'm so sick of the mentality that if anybody doesn't like the show, they shouldn't post in this section about it. It's just f*cking ridiculous how this forum has sunk so low. I could see if Zarius flamed everyone else for liking it, but he hasn't done that. And looking back at his post, I didn't see anything wrong with it at all and nothing that would amount to the backlash he's receiving.

And my defense of him has nothing to do with bias. He has every right to hate this show and post his dislike of it as he sees fit just as others have every right to praise the show and post how they like it. Since when has this forum become so one-sided like this? It's the same thing in the movie thread, which is why I stay away from it. People really need to grow up and stop dictating what we can and can't say on this forum. And if you don't like someone's negative opinion, just ignore it. Plain and simple.

The Stryker
07-12-2014, 09:44 AM
Oh, get over yourself. I'm so sick of the mentality that if anybody doesn't like the show, they shouldn't post in this section about it. It's just f*cking ridiculous how this forum has sunk so low. I could see if Zarius flamed everyone else for liking it, but he hasn't done that. And looking back at his post, I didn't see anything wrong with it at all and nothing that would amount to the backlash he's receiving.

Yo. He edited his first post a bunch to take out most of the insults. After it was read and responded to.

Even in his followup post he went on calling people 'sheep' for liking the show and not agreeing with his view of it's flaws. He also implied that a few of the people that didn't agree with him are retarded.

Metalwolf
07-12-2014, 11:22 AM
Am I "Allowed" to say that I found the specific episode a little mediocre, a bit over-hyped, and a surprising one to get an Emmy nod? Can't think of any off the top of my head, but having just seen this one again the other day, I swear I've seen better ones from this series. It's not "Bad" by itself, I'unno.

Really does seem like it only got any attention because of the gimmick with the OT Turtles. That was my gut reaction, frankly. Just callin' it as I see it.That was my feeling too. I think Wrath or Lonely Mutation would have been better episodes to use, since they show what the Nick show is capable of when you remove the doofiness and get down to business. Honestly, I think that is the only reason why people like Manhattan Project is because they still miss the OT a lot and wish it was back on the air. I just wish they would say it upfront and be blunt and honest about it. This show doesn't feel like it's getting judged on it's own terms to me with this particular episode, but because of some brief OT cameo that it has and that annoys me greatly. I badly want this show to be it's own thing, and not some vehicle to keep the OT 'alive.' Otherwise it stops being Nick TMNT and becomes OT redux, wth bits of 'old school' OT thrown in for the extra nostalgia feels.

Whatswiththeheadbands?
07-12-2014, 02:11 PM
To be honest, don't mean to fuel the fire, but the episode wasn't very memorable to me.

That is all.

Refractive Reflections
07-12-2014, 04:02 PM
NOTHING was nominated for a Daytime Emmy this year in animation. It was all Drama shows and crap like that. I guarantee you TMNT would've been nominated for one this year if they had bothered with animation. Also, season 2 hasn't been taking the best direction? Uh, Target: April O'Neil, Slash and Destroy, Good, Bad, Casey Jones, Of Rats and Men, Wormquake, Lonely Mutation, Wrath of Tiger Claw, Legend of Kuro Kabuto, and Vengeance is Mine would like to have a word with you. (Many of those were some of the best episodes of the SERIES)

Ummm... :-? I'm guessing you didn't read my first post carefully:
Found the link if anybody's interested:
http://www.emmys.com/awards/nominees-winners/2014/animation-60-minutes

So after reading a bit on it, the Daytime Emmy Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Children%27s_An imated_Program#2010s) nominates the series for a Children's Animated Show (surprised no one mentioned how Nick TMNT was nominated back in 2013 by the way, yet WASN'T nominated at all in 2014 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41st_Daytime_Creative_Arts_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding _Children.27s_Animated_Program)), but these Primetime Emmy Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Animated_Prog ram_%28for_Programming_Less_Than_One_Hour%29) nominate only a single episode/special (less than an hour) within any animated series (children's or adults'), and NOT the series as a whole.


Which has a link to the Children's Animated Nominated Shows for the 2014 Daytime Emmys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41st_Daytime_Creative_Arts_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding _Children.27s_Animated_Program). And here's the Children's Animated Nominated Shows for the 2013 Daytime Emmys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40th_Daytime_Creative_Arts_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding _Animated_Program). (Kung Fu Panda won in both years in this category of "Outstanding Children's Animated Show".) So yes, Nick TMNT wasn't nominated this 2014 year. So, I don't understand where your logic is of "it was all Drama shows and crap like that" is coming from.

As for those episodes I would say a couple of them are good highlights ("Wrath of Tiger Claw" and "Vengeance Is Mine"), but I would beg to differ on about half of them. If you are really interested in my opinion of them, which I highly doubt, I'm sure you can search for my posts in the official episode threads in the Nick forum. Otherwise, as I told others who have disagreed with my opinion before, if you enjoy the episodes and the series, so be it. I'm glad at least some of us are enjoying it more so than me. All I'm pointing to, is with this lack of 2014 nomination and how some have been complaining about Donnie's, Mikey's, and April's depictions, on top of the "Mutant of the Week" episodic plots, selective plot amnesia, and the stale direction of the Kraang plot, they could be possible factors toward that lack of a nomination, but that's just my speculation on things.

Konchadunga
07-12-2014, 05:05 PM
My work actually has fans, I've even had fan art based on my stories, so I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with wanting me to hide my sigs.

And TMNT 2012 has more fans. What's your point?

I'm proud of my work, I've spent several years working on my projects and they've helped me cope with recovery from a mental illness that almost drove me to suicide in 2010. There is nothing in that which says "sour grapes", just "I have grown as a writer and as a person and I am very self-confident". I'm not going to stop pimping myself just because I slammed a show you enjoy, and if people want to criticize...that's the whole point of writing, to generate divisive opinion. I have a comics writer for a friend and I cannot stand his work on a certain title, but we're still tight despite that.

I am quite certain, however, that when you hang out with him, the bulk of your dialogue is not you dissing his work. Have some damned tact.

No doubt the people behind this show know full well not everyone will like their output and they're probably not too fussed either given so many more people than the vocal minority enjoy it, just as my writer friend is not fussed if his work proves divisive (even with me), and just as I'm not fussed if you don't like my work because I know plenty of others enjoy it.

But you're a complete dick to people you know enjoy something you don't, you hypocrite.

To those I annoyed, please don't take it the wrong way, if you like the show, all the more power to you. I know I am in a (glorious) minority. Congratulations to the rest of you for having something to celebrate. It's just not my cup of tea.

THEN SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT IT! You're contributing absolutely nothing to the discussions once we already know how you feel. Even Netkeeper, as hateful as he is, actually clarifies his criticisms.

Quite right. It's hilarious how, last I checked, the movie thread is 90% negativity and there have been instances where those with a positive outlook have been accused of being corporate plants and trolls...and in the Nick forum you're not allowed to say the slightest thing negative about the show or point out it's irritable adolescense and weak narrative structure and poor characterisations. Why is it one way for one thing (oh right, because Bay hate is the current fashion statement), and one way for another? Why must people conform to a pack mentality just to fit in on here? People should be allowed to have independent thought and not feel "intimidated" by the Neo-Nick fans (I use quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of intimidation is just sad, maybe I should rephrase that to "amused", complete with the quote marks because the thought of these people being capable of amusement is equally just as sad)

Well first of all, I haven't read all of the bile spewed at Bay (is that even possible to do?) but again, much of what I've seen is more eloquent than your rants. Second, though, I disagree. People should pay some mind to "When in Rome"; not to outright ass-kissing levels, but to the extent that it's courteous. You don't have to share the mass opinion, but you're downright insecure if you feel oppressed in your opinion if you don't voice it. Once again, you are just beating a dead horse, and comments like "the emperor has no clothes" and "mediocre" don't mean anything. At all. Your accusations of us being sheep are dead wrong; most of us have big gripes with the show; the difference is we can actually phrase them as constructive criticism. I haven't come on to praise the show one-sidedly in months.

I have'nt even read Powder's post, but I don't really give a toss. He and his kind exist only to instigate on this forum.

Maybe you should pay attention then, because if that description exists, he's your type.

Thanks Bubbly. I don't go out of my way to say the Nick 'toon is awful out of spite, there are things I do like about it, and if I did'nt 100% beleive that it could be better than it currently is, I would'nt give people who capatalise on strengthening it's potential the time of day, I do so because they're very gifted, as you are, and because they see strengths and oppertunities I wish the show's writers would capatalise on.

Wish?! Wishing doesn't do jack. Neither does whining. If you want the writers to do better, give criticisms that actually give advice to them, or shut the shell up.

ike I said, I'm happy for those who are happy for the show, it's not to my liking,

THEN DON'T STIR **** WITH THEM! THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!

I do not know how others feel about this, but I, for one, gave up respecting all opinions no matter what a long time ago. Stupid and rude are stupid and rude. No doubt, you have the right to your opinion, but so do I, and arbitrarily respecting anyone violates my right. So you get to say this show sucks? Well, then I get to say you suck.

YOU ****ING SUCK!

pennydreadful
07-12-2014, 05:25 PM
Guys... c'mon, can we not?

Werecat
07-12-2014, 05:46 PM
If it's only nominated for its animation quality, then why did they nominate South Park? It's interesting animation but not even close to good by any means. South Park's animation is good. Plus South park's writing is actually good and full of satire comedy. The writers of South Park usually get there inspiration from real life events. South Park also kind of made fun of themselves for being an award winning show by showing the stupidest stuff and broadcasting it. There is a reason why South Park has been going on for 17 seasons and still going.

The animation quality in TMNT is superb and worthy of nomination by that alone. The writing of TMNT is decent, it usually averages a rating of 7/10. 7/10 does not equal MAJESTIC MASTERPIECE AND BIBLE FOR ALL TMNT FANS!!!!!!

Coola Yagami
07-12-2014, 05:49 PM
Um... Saying a cartoon that is basically for kids sucks is not the same as saying a fellow member of the forum sucks. Let's keep personal insults to a miminum.

Machias Banshee
07-12-2014, 11:02 PM
Agreed, Coola... there is ZERO need for this kind of hostility.

Zarius, Konchadunga...

I don't care if someone likes or dislikes something. Calling people stupid, or sheep, or retarded, or this "Neo-Nick" thing... this is ridiculous. Attacking each other and other fans because of their opinions of the cartoon is a waste of time, energy. No fans want to read through your garbage to actually get to the original thread topic.

So this thread will be cleaned. And the staff will be notified.

If this nonsense continues after today (12JUL2014), you will be hearing from us..