Is anyone happy with the Kraang?

[neatoman]

So I don't like the Kraang. From the first time I saw the leaked bio I hated the mere concept of them, making the Utroms a villainous hivemind and calling them the "Kraang"? What's the point? All they needed to do was name one Utrom "Krang" and everything would be dandy, doing what they did just seems like it would piss off both fans of the character Krang and the Utrom race. It's like in the most recent Spider-Man cartoon where they decided roll Harry Osborn, Eddie Brock and Peter Parker's symbiote arc all into one character, it's just not right.

Not to mention that they just seem to get more confusing, more boring and more pointless the more they're in the show...

[JH24]

Not happy with the Kraang. No personality, no development, don't like the idea a technologically superior race needs thousands of years to terraform Earth, and even almost two seasons later they still haven't upgraded their standard battle suits.

They would have been more interesting IMO if there was at least a separate faction which was different or opposed Kraang Prime. But as they are now, they're just not interesting. I wouldn't mind if they were replaced with another threat in later seasons.

[ZariusTwo]

Very one-note, have a very comical gimmick (biggest problem with the whole show is the irritable self-deprecation) and don't tend to evolve to outmatch their calibure of opponent. Wasted potential.

[Shark_Blade]

Nothing wrong with Kraang.

[ZariusTwo]

Nothing wrong with Kraang.

Then care to ellaborate for the sake of conversation. What makes them great?

[CyberCubed]

They have gotten redundant so I'm hoping they're defeated at the end of Season 2 and retreat to Dimension X.

We'll probably still see them in Season 3, but hopefully far less.

[neatoman]

They have gotten redundant so I'm hoping they're defeated at the end of Season 2 and retreat to Dimension X.

We'll probably still see them in Season 3, but hopefully far less.

Didn't season 2 end already? I originally thought it was going to 26 episodes but the only confirmed season 2 end date was 2 weeks ago and no official release dates or even episode titles are out.

[ssjup81]

i'm in between. I like them because of the way they speak and find it ironic that for a species made of brains, that they aren't very bright. I also like when the Kraang insult other Kranng. "Stupid Kraang".

At least they did try to upgrade their battle suits....with chainsaw nipples and butt cannons.... I dunno. I guess I just don't have an opinion on them either way, but can understand why some would find them bothersome, as they are pretty redundant.

I'm personally wondering how things will work out once they get to the Dimension X story arc. Maybe there'll be more to them.

[Shark_Blade]

Then care to ellaborate for the sake of conversation. What makes them great?
They serve their role as aliens, and they're hilarious. And mysterious. And squishy.

[CyberCubed]

Didn't season 2 end already? I originally thought it was going to 26 episodes but the only confirmed season 2 end date was 2 weeks ago and no official release dates or even episode titles are out.

Season 2 has 4 episodes left.

[MrTMNT2012]

and don't tend to evolve to outmatch their calibure of opponent. Wasted potential.

Yet another proof that you don't actually watch the show; the Kraang improve their technology literally every episode. There's always a new vehicle or weapon they use to take down the Turtles and did I mention Kraang Prime came closest to defeating the Turtles? If it wasn't for that space pod, the Turtles were done for right there. They didn't even stand a chance!

That's what makes them formidable villains, they endure just like real ninjas and that's what makes them perfect as enemies of the Ninja Turtles.

[ZariusTwo]

Hardly me bloated buckaroo. All that says is I don't take particular stock in their methods

[MrTMNT2012]

Hardly me bloated buckaroo. All that says is I don't take particular stock in their methods

I'm so glad you took the time to write that instead of, oh I don't know, an actual rebuttal to my points.

[Kanon]

I like the Krang.
They are funny Brains (not smart:P) and their way of talking is really entertaining. :D

And Leo imitating the Krang was damn funny!
"The ones who are working in this place must punch the card, which is known as a time-card, into the clock which is known as the clock of time."

[ZariusTwo]

I'm so glad you took the time to write that instead of, oh I don't know, an actual rebuttal to my points.

This is what I mean by "taking particular stock", I would have been a fan if the Krangg had the ability to draw me in as a serious threat, and I can't take them as that with their hang-ups evident from the start. They can have all the most intimidating weapons and advantages in the world, but it has'nt slowed the Turtles down a whole lot, just sort of side-tracked them, and with their irritable character traits, so what's the use in investing in them for the long-term? Shredder and his Foot drove the Turtles away from their city for weeks in the 4Kids cartoon, they evolved to outmatch their opponents before the first season was even in the middle stages and it led them to a humbling and critical defeat, I've yet to see that in this show, though they're implying we'll get that before long.

[plastroncafe]

I think they're a riot.

[ssjup81]

I do find them funny because of the way they speak, but only because they've been trying to mutate the earth for centuries, but still can't speak normally. lol

Man, I wonder what they sound like in Japanese. lol I need to check that link.

[IndigoErth]

Nah, I don't really mind the fresh take on it in this case. Makes it seem like more of menace/threat to Earth that it stands to be overrun by some invasive alien species. Not just one alien bossing around Shredder as in the old cartoon. lol

Now, Roseanne Barr providing the voice of Kraang Prime on the other hand, I'll never be the same again... lol

[ssjup81]

Now, Roseanne Barr providing the voice of Kraang Prime on the other hand, I'll never be the same again... lolOh yeah, Kraang Prime! Her voice is incredibly annoying. Roseanne's always had an annoying voice, but as Kraang Prime it's painful on the ears. lol

[Aaronardo]

They're hilarious. But battles with them got very repetitive very fast, and they always have that whole "take over the world because we just want to" plot.
OF COURSE!

[ABrown]

I found them hilarious during the first season. They were pretty much the only thing that kept me watching. I'm not sure if the second season has died down on the Kraang humor, or if I've just gotten kinda tired of them.

[BabyTurtles]

eeeh..They were okay at first, but they are kinda boring now....(their speech is still amusing, but their episodes are so repetitive)

not really liking their purpose anymore....it would be awesome if their story finished up this season.

I wouldn't mind seeing them later in some outer space story or something later....but not as the turtles' main enemy anymore.

it's time to shift the focus to someone else XD

[Leo656]

I "got" what they were trying to do with it but don't love the execution. I agree with those who say there's no real reason they couldn't have had a renegade Utrom NAMED Krang/Kraang, or possibly even a renegade species of Utrom called "The Kraang", I guess. Just seems like the standard, "It's all the same anyway, kids don't know" kind of reasoning for changing it. I got what they were trying to do, though.

More than anything, the way they talk ruined it for me inside the first three episodes. That's... funny? I... guess...

[Cipher]

I think they're pretty funny, on the whole, though their plots have veered toward the repetitive side.

I'd love to see more of their attempts to integrate with Earth culture when they're not prepping the latest super weapon though.

I have zero problem with the Utrom/Kraang/Krang approach. There's a remarkable inconsistency across the Turtles multiverse. If anything, I prefer giving this (pretty unique) interpretation their own name, versus the approach IDW took, which was to conflate the traditionally benevolent Utroms with the warlord Krang. Not that I have a huge issue with that either, but it took more getting used to, and I do prefer the Utrom as a completely or mostly kind race because they make such a bizarre addition to the world in that role.

Just seems like the standard, "It's all the same anyway, kids don't know" kind of reasoning for changing it.
I don't think that kind of dismissive logic has infected this show at all (at least no more so than any other kids' show, which are filled with conveniences by necessity). If anything, it feels like acknowledging that the two concepts have been linked from day one -- Krang being based on the then barely developed Utroms -- and going with the name and approach that worked best for this incarnation.

[victory_angel]

1987: Krang was a single Alien that had dominion over Dimention X. But was banished and lost his body because of his banishment.

2003; The Utroms were a benevolent race and Ch'rel was the only known bad seed in the group.

2012: The Kraang are a cross between Krang and the Utroms, which makes them all evil and numerous. I don't think they have learned to talk normally because they don't see the point in doing so once they have invaded and mutated Earth to suit their needs.

We only know the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the Kraang and their plans to invade Earth. However there is Kurtzman...and I don't thinks he's all he appears. For example for someone who has been investigating the Kraang for a year, he seems to have at least 10 years worth of information on them. So that may mean he could be one of them...but in the case of Ch'rel so in other words he's the only defector except he's good.

Or maybe the Utroms are the species but Kraang Prime is the only one who is evil and has thus created a group of hive minded followers. In other words once Kraang prime dies the whole hive goes with him.

[Leofan26]

No, not really. Season one I was ok with them, I was hoping the season one final was it for them, that would have been the perfect way to end them. I felt we really didn't need them for season two, they should have focused on the Shredder plot in season two than season three could have been an all new villain.

I was tired of them in season two. I would love for there plot to be over with in season two but with the last four episodes most likley focusing on the Shredder / Karai / Leo explosive ending and the start of the Dimension X plot some thing tells me no :(

[JTH]

I'm curious if they plan to go the route that the term "Kraang" is basically the name of any life form from Dimension X.

We've got the Kraang, we've got Kraathatrogons (Kraang Worms), April and possibly others with Kraang DNA.

It seems like everything in Dimension X is "Kraang".

[Lou 500]

Pretty much my sentiments. Every episode that's involved them feels too similar and they've had practically no development. I really want to know what their deal is with April, damn it.

[Powder]

While I do love the Kraang, I think we've seen far too much of them for how little they've actually advanced the plot or contributed something beyond indirect consequences of the ooze.

[Davetello]

The way they talk is still pretty amusing, but they've grown somewhat stale. I have always been more into eps where Shredder is the main focal point anyway.

[MartiusR]

Initially, I had no warm or cold attitude towards Kraang, I've decided to wait for a while and see, where it'll go. And unfortunatly, I must admit that the next episodes quite quickly changed my attitude. On the negative. I've never had too much fun with their way of talking, their weapons look and sound like a toys (by the way - I've noticed that it's probably the first TMNT animated series, where we've got almost no presence of "classic" firearms, except some RL (well, ok, let's say it's firearms :P) in one of the episodes from season 1 and machine guns on Steranko's chopper in Season 2), aaand... Yeah, as many of forum users already wrote, they're really "one-dimensonial" (trivial) and predictable foe.

And I've got really stron feeling (basing on my experience after watching all episodes from this season so far), that I wouldn't lost anything important, if in this S2 I would skip all "pure" kraang-centric episodes.

[kelligrafie]

It's not the Kraang that irk me, it's the Kraang-April storyline that's boring me. I literally couldn't care less.

I'd much rather they spent more time on the Karai stuff.

[ninja-zero]

I'd prefer the Utroms than the Kraang.

Besides, the Utroms would be divided into good and evil.

One led by Mortu as rebels and the other led by Kraang who he and his fellow evil utroms form an alliance with Shredder & the foot.

[terrorblade]

Not a fan of Utroms in general but i like how they turned out to be. I think they served their purpose really well as a distraction to the main plot.

[Jester]

I agree with those who find them humorous, but wish they were a bigger threat.

[THGhost]

I think they're a hoot and a half! :lol:

And I'd say Kraang Prime is a pretty big threat.

Season 2 has 4 episodes left.

People keep saying this, so where are they? It's been over 2 weeks since the last episode.

[fridaynightdestination]

Yeah I guess. I do prefer the mutant monsters and the Foot clan, but the Kraang is OK.

[Powder]

People keep saying this, so where are they? It's been over 2 weeks since the last episode.

You say that as if ridiculously long breaks aren't common as hell.

[Zulithe]

Kraang is seriously underdeveloped, you barely understand what their motivations are because it's so underplayed in every single episode where they appear.

Once Kraang Prime was introduced I thought we'd start to get more interesting Kraang stuff, but so far, nope.

[Bry]

I find them very entertaining, but they really need some more development at some point. Two years in and they're still just the funny-talking evil invaders, and they'll sorely need some more meat to their story in order to feel important or relevant for much longer.

I'd prefer the Utroms than the Kraang.

Besides, the Utroms would be divided into good and evil.

One led by Mortu as rebels and the other led by Kraang who he and his fellow evil utroms form an alliance with Shredder & the foot.

I've still got my fingers crossed that they'll reveal that the Kraang are an evil cult-like offshoot of the Utrom race. I would be very happy to see some "real" Utroms on this show.

[shuriken]

DAMNIT. I accidentally put no, but I meant I have no problem with the Kraang. Plan 10 was comedic Gold. I AM NOT A PIGEON, I AM A MAN:lol:

[rainbow-flyer]

I love the Kraang. When I first saw them, I feared that they were going to be really one-note but the occasional moments of Kraang sass and shades of other oddly human moments won me over. Plus I like that the comedic effect of the Kraang kinda makes me forget they are an actual threat, so when I see them being horrible(with Leatherhead, waiting until April was awake to torture her), it actually hits me pretty well. But I can see why people don't like 'em.

[THGhost]

The fact that they're all voiced by Nolan North makes them worth while. :P

You say that as if ridiculously long breaks aren't common as hell.

They aren't, but without any knowledge as to when it's coming back? Now those are uncommon.

[AT-Man]

As a pro-hivemind I think the Kraang is awesome and I love how they talk.

[kelligrafie]

People keep saying this, so where are they? It's been over 2 weeks since the last episode.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/493bba0521a6a6a1f766cfe8fb037613/tumblr_myapwyBBGt1s4b9vgo1_400.png

Wow two whole weeks. WOW.

You must be new.

[THGhost]

You must be new.

:lol: Thanks for the laugh. Not at all. I just want the show back on the air. :tcool:

[PizzaFaceDelivers]

I'm really conflicted about the Kraang... I like them as characters and their dialogue and mannerisms almost always make me laugh... but for the most part their episodes are my least favorite. It's strange. I guess it's because they all seem so similar. Kraang do some experimenting, Turtles break into their lab, fight ensues, monster/tech goes haywire, something explodes, and everyone goes home. Lather, rinse, repeat. I'm honestly really hoping that the triceratons show up and are antagonistic towards the Kraang so that we can shake up the formula a little. We'll see I suppose...

[THGhost]

I'm honestly really hoping that the triceratons show up and are antagonistic towards the Kraang so that we can shake up the formula a little. We'll see suppose...

Yes. Please!

[Metalwolf]

Yes. Please!Yes, bring these guys on! I'd love to see if they are hostile enemies to the Kraang. I'm wondering if these guys have that penchant for trying to terraform planets too, or if they'd do that old classic of just enslaving humans.

[Raphtastic]

I like the Kraang--they have a very Tim Burton/Mars Attacks thing going on aesthetically and they're amusing. But I also agree with most of the people in this thread that they are sorely lacking in development and are starting to become one note as season 2 wears on. We need to see their motivation.

And I'm hoping we will, given that the mystery with April and her mother has yet to be fully explored.

As a long time Mirage and 4Kids fan, I wouldn't mind seeing the Utrom again. It'd be pretty cool if the Kraang were some kind of faction that went crazy with the scientific experiments to become the weird, evil hive mind that is attempting to take over Earth.

[ssjup81]

I noticed how some feel that the Kraang are getting stale and stuff as they feel very one-note as their reason for wanting to take over earth hasn't really been established. I can understand why many would be frustrated with that, but I was wondering about something. The Nick series is pretty much a throwback to quite a few previous incarnations, like the OT and Archie series, of course. I was thinking back to Krang's objective for that and how he wanted to rule earth. I was under the impression that his kind had conquered many other dimensions or attacked many before being stuck on earth.

Maybe the Kraang, for this series, are a bit like the Triceratons (OT version, anyway). They just want to conquer all places and just rule over everything...like some dictatorish place. That's plausible, isn't it? Since there will be a Dimension X story next season, I'm kind of expecting the Kraangs' objective to be expanded on or revealed, even if it's only a little.

Does anyone else feel this way?

[lucapoison]

The Way they talk is really funny.
Personally I didn't like so much the concept of the Robot Krang of the first TMNT series...He was so idiotic and irritating in a bad way. The Utroms were interesting but never get the cool side of having this alien race to invade the eath in this strange way.

This "Kraangs" in The Manhattan project episode for example are deadly and scary in the way they act. I prefer this version of the Kra(a)ng(s)

[kelligrafie]

:lol: Thanks for the laugh. Not at all. I just want the show back on the air. :tcool:

We all do but considering that Japan literally just got the series, nearly two years after it started in the USA, I really don't think any of us Westerners should be complaining about airing breaks.

[snake]

I don't like them in s2, but in s1 they were pretty cool.

[ssjup81]

We all do but considering that Japan literally just got the series, nearly two years after it started in the USA, I really don't think any of us Westerners should be complaining about airing breaks.But unlike the US, they probably won't have any breaks since that's the way they do their programming here. If a series has 25 episodes, then that means 25 weeks of eps. If it's 52 eps, that's 52 weeks of episodes. That's my impression anyway.

That aside, it's not really comparable, is it? It's a new series here. I wonder how many even knew of it prior.

[THGhost]

We all do but considering that Japan literally just got the series, nearly two years after it started in the USA, I really don't think any of us Westerners should be complaining about airing breaks.

You need to understand that Japan aren't western though, so it's no surprise that they're behind.

These last 4 episodes must really be something special since they're taking extra long to air. Looking forward to 'em.

[The Vernon]

I hate their designs and I still hate their designs. You would think that an army of brain-look-alike creatures would think to have more face diversity than this one stinkin' lame face. But... there is that older woman robot Kraang. I think she was first introduced as a librarian, who April I think fought against (did she have a name?). I don't quite remember now though.

I actually don't mind her design too much. But the humanoid-man design just plain sucks. That's what I'm not happy about with the Kraang. When I first watched the Nickelodeon Ninja Turtles, I was watching a scene with The Kraang. I thought to myself that this was some kind of amateur animation of some sort.

I think their retarded dialogue makes up for it somehow though.

[MCLeo28]

But unlike the US, they probably won't have any breaks since that's the way they do their programming here. If a series has 25 episodes, then that means 25 weeks of eps. If it's 52 eps, that's 52 weeks of episodes. That's my impression anyway.

That aside, it's not really comparable, is it? It's a new series here. I wonder how many even knew of it prior.

This. They are good in hands, though I am glad we did start early. These breaks aren't even that bad IMO.

[ZariusTwo]

This. They are good in hands, though I am glad we did start early. These breaks aren't even that bad IMO.

That's true, if you want an example of Nick and insane breaks, look at how they treat Power Rangers (Normally a March to September hiatus)

[Candy Kappa]

I really enjoy the Kraang, the banter between them is amazing, but after the Technodorme got sunk, they've kinda lost a bit of their drive, and seem to struggle to stand up and continue their terraforming plans.

[Tora]

I don't care for Kraang Prime and wish he was more like the OT.











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[THGhost]

I don't care for Kraang Prime and wish he was more like the OT.

Is the world ready for another Krang? :tanime:

"OT" means "Original Turtles", right? :P

[drgon78]

No, I have no problems with the Krang.

[Rukitron]

Kraang plots are becoming repetitive, they need to mix it up a bit. Also I find it odd they're focused on invading solely the one area of New York the turtles are living in. I'm guessing it's just a limitation of them using CGI because a global Kraang invasion and the turtles working around the world with international mutants would be awesome. We never even got to see a glimpse of Shredder's trip to Japan which was disappointing to me.

[victory_angel]

Kraang plots are becoming repetitive, they need to mix it up a bit. Also I find it odd they're focused on invading solely the one area of New York the turtles are living in. I'm guessing it's just a limitation of them using CGI because a global Kraang invasion and the turtles working around the world with international mutants would be awesome. We never even got to see a glimpse of Shredder's trip to Japan which was disappointing to me.

This is probably the case. Because Ciro had said they only had the budget for 1 background set a day. And something like the Shellraiser cost about 8 background sets at least.

Still I agree with the Kraang attacking or basing themselves in that one section of New York. It's like villains in anime attacking Tokyo when there are plenty of other cities they could start off with.

[THGhost]

Kraang plots are becoming repetitive, they need to mix it up a bit. Also I find it odd they're focused on invading solely the one area of New York the turtles are living in. I'm guessing it's just a limitation of them using CGI because a global Kraang invasion and the turtles working around the world with international mutants would be awesome. We never even got to see a glimpse of Shredder's trip to Japan which was disappointing to me.

This is probably the case. Because Ciro had said they only had the budget for 1 background set a day. And something like the Shellraiser cost about 8 background sets at least.

Still I agree with the Kraang attacking or basing themselves in that one section of New York. It's like villains in anime attacking Tokyo when there are plenty of other cities they could start off with.

This always bugged me as a kid with cartoons. And the fact that it's usually because the show's budget isn't big enough totally ruins the illusion, reminding me that it's just a TV show.

[Rukitron]

cgi tv is pretty much a puppet show...

[Tora]

cgi tv is pretty much a puppet show...

lol Very True.

[BubblyShell22]

I think the Kraang are hilarious, but I do agree that there's not much to them right now. I'd love to see more development with them and wonder how that will play out in the final episodes of season 2 since there is going to be something with Dimension X there from what I recall. I do agree that Kurtzman is not who he seems to be, and I could see him being a former Kraang who turned good or maybe a former prisoner of the Kraang. I hope we learn more about him soon. Same goes with April's mom and what really happened to her.

[ssjup81]

I think the Kraang are hilarious, but I do agree that there's not much to them right now. I'd love to see more development with them and wonder how that will play out in the final episodes of season 2 since there is going to be something with Dimension X there from what I recall. I do agree that Kurtzman is not who he seems to be, and I could see him being a former Kraang who turned good or maybe a former prisoner of the Kraang. I hope we learn more about him soon. Same goes with April's mom and what really happened to her.I find Kurtzman really suspicious in general. I like the idea of him being a former Kraang or something crazy. I like the idea of him being from Dimension X. He knows way too much. Also some of the photos that Kurtzman had of April (well one I noticed), should've been impossible to get unless he had been standing right in front of her. The one where she first met Casey at her school. How in the world did he get that baby photo of April? How did he obtain a photo of a baby April with her parents. The whole thing is still strange to me.

I hope that they do expand on his character at some point and how he managed to get all of that information as well as how he managed to steal a TCRI keycard, etc.

Personally, my theory is that the Kraang will be developed more once the Turtles are on their turf...which makes me wonder how they'll survive in Dimension X if they probably can't breathe the air.

[Donnieangelo]

I really enjoy the Kraang, the banter between them is amazing, but after the Technodorme got sunk, they've kinda lost a bit of their drive, and seem to struggle to stand up and continue their terraforming plans.
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[victory_angel]

I think the Kraang are hilarious, but I do agree that there's not much to them right now. I'd love to see more development with them and wonder how that will play out in the final episodes of season 2 since there is going to be something with Dimension X there from what I recall. I do agree that Kurtzman is not who he seems to be, and I could see him being a former Kraang who turned good or maybe a former prisoner of the Kraang. I hope we learn more about him soon. Same goes with April's mom and what really happened to her.

It's also possible Kurtzman could be the Fugatoid.

[neatoman]

"OT" means "Original Turtles", right? :P

I suppose, I'm not going to call it that though, since it is a spin-off to a comic book and therefore not an "original". It's the first Turtles cartoon but it's not the original piece of work, so I just call it the fisrt Turtles cartoon, seems more accurate to describe it as such.

[shredder orokusaki]

I am not happy anymore. They need to focus more on me and my foot ninajs . Most episodoes of both season 1 and 2 so far has been about the kraang. Anyone else noticed that? I am the main vilian not them.

[ssjup81]

I suppose, I'm not going to call it that though, since it is a spin-off to a comic book and therefore not an "original". It's the first Turtles cartoon but it's not the original piece of work, so I just call it the fisrt Turtles cartoon, seems more accurate to describe it as such.I'm sure it means Original Toon.

[jenna]

I enjoyed the Kraang for all of ten minutes. In the first episode of season 1, I was excited by the way they reference the Mirage comics / 4Kids and the Fred Wolf series at the same time, but since then they have become a repetitive villain. I get it already - they have lots of mutagen and no human is safe from it (in fact, I'm surprised there are any humans left in New York City at this rate). This series has so much potential and so many engaging / intriguing options for villains. The Kraang are boring and lack any real substance. Move on.