Live Action Sailor Moon.

[GK Punk]

Cast Profiles: http://www.hicbc.com/tv/sailormoon/main.htm
(It's in japanese though)

http://kittie.onlinecomics.biz/sm.jpg

I wonder if we'll get a chopped up american version over here?

[Stone Ill]

That looks like the most dumb thing I've ever seen. I'm not saying that because I loathe anime, but because the costumes look really crappy..

[GK Punk]

I was hoping they'd look a little more... professional or something I guess.
They look like random cosplayers. But the girls themselves look like they suit their characters. (So far anyways)

Over at Cosplay.com, I've been making references to it as Sailor Moon: The next mutation... I hope Im wrong though.

[XxSentinaLxX]

LIVE ACTION EVANGELION IS BETTA!!!!!!! :oops: :x :sleep:

[GK Punk]

Well they are making a live action Eva movie here in the US.

[Voltron]

Live action US eva movie? Is there proof?

[GK Punk]

Yeah, go check out toonzone, its been known about for a while now.

[Ninjatron]

I've been waiting to see pictures of this for a long while. Now that I know that they are all cuties, I am happy.

Short skirted shoujo sentai! Sugoi!

Sayonara.

[GK Punk]

I've been waiting to see pictures of this for a long while. Now that I know that they are all cuties, I am happy.

Short skirted shoujo sentai! Sugoi!

Sayonara.

See, Im not the only one here who dosn't think it's too bad.
I think all the girls LOOK like who they should.

[Ninjatron]

Well...

I just wanted to look at some cute girls. :D

Plus, I think it'll be a fun little oddity. I love Live action Japanese sci-fi just as much as I love anime. So I'll be checking out Fan-subs for sure.

Sayonara.

[GK Punk]

Well...

I just wanted to look at some cute girls. :D

Plus, I think it'll be a fun little oddity. I love Live action Japanese sci-fi just as much as I love anime. So I'll be checking out Fan-subs for sure.

Sayonara.

Yeah Im REALLY looking forward to Fan Subs!
It starts airing in October in japan, so we probably have a while to go for Fan subs.
(And I dig Japanese Sci_fi also, Im really in to japanese culture, not just anime)
Plus those short skirts don't hurt :D

[Lanagirl]

Who are these girls? I know that there is such cartoon as Sailor Moon but what has that to do with these ladies? :o :wink: :oops:

[GK Punk]

Yes Lana, In Japan a new Sailor Moon Television show starts in october, and those girls are who is playing the Sailor Gaurdians (as they are now called)

[Lanagirl]

:o :) wow, that's great,you know!!! Wonderful!!
By the way how did you manage to become a legendary member:-)? I have joined much earlier and I still can't post that many messages :lol:

[GK Punk]

lol to be honest, I don't know :lol:

[Lanagirl]

:lol: LOL
wow, a clear answer.
BTW Do you like Sailor Moon?
Who is your favourite girl?
My brother is crazy about this cartton. He is driving me crazy. I'll kill him one day :-? He speaks about them 24 hours a day

[GK Punk]

I have two favorites, a Tie if you will...

Jupiter http://eternalsailormoon6.com.sapo.pt/jupiter69.jpg
And Venus http://www.xmission.com/~imander/Danielle/SailorMoon/Venus/SV.jpg

[That Matt Guy]

Ok why did they get Japanese girls to play the live action roles, seeing how the cartoon characters do not look Japanese at all?

[GK Punk]

'cause it's a japanese TV series. If they do one in america, I hope they get american girls to play the parts and not just Dub voices over...

[ThirdMarioBro]

I think Sailor Moon was meant to be animated. There was once going to be a live action Sailor Moon series in the US if Saban had gotten the rights to the series. They didn't, DiC did. DiC gutted the series, but not nearly as bad as a live action series would have. I think I'll stick to my Uncut Season 1 Boxset (thank heavens it finally came out). Now, Come on Season 2 uncut!!

(I'll still try to get Fansubs of this series anyway. I am a lifelong Sailor Moon fan. Also I like Sailor Guardians a lot better than Sailor Warriors. It sounds better.)

[Lanagirl]

And I like Mars and Neptune :)
Sweet cartoon.
But I'm crazy about the Shredder anyway
what a man, what a man :lol: :cry: :o

[GK Punk]

I think Sailor Moon was meant to be animated. There was once going to be a live action Sailor Moon series in the US if Saban had gotten the rights to the series. They didn't, DiC did. DiC gutted the series, but not nearly as bad as a live action series would have. I think I'll stick to my Uncut Season 1 Boxset (thank heavens it finally came out). Now, Come on Season 2 uncut!!

(I'll still try to get Fansubs of this series anyway. I am a lifelong Sailor Moon fan. Also I like Sailor Guardians a lot better than Sailor Warriors. It sounds better.)

Well, if Saban would have done a live actions sailor moon, it wouldn't be anything like this new Sailor Gaurdian series. I've seen the trailor for the Live action Saban series, and it was disgusting.

The season 1 box set is pretty cool, we got it at a week before the release date at anime expo :lol:
Season 2 comes out next month.
I wish they'd release the last season, it was by far the best.

[Mars-Chan]

And I Like Mars and Neptune :)
You like me! You really like me!
Hence the insperation for my Turtle name "Mars"....I love Sailor Mars!! ^^

[GK Punk]

That's awesome! I'm colaborating with a friend to make a Sailor Mars costume for a friend of mine. (She kinda looks like Sailor Mars lol)

[Mars-Chan]

Make sure to post Photos!! :P ^^

[GK Punk]

lol I will, Hopefully it will be done by the end of the month!

[Mars-Chan]

^^
Cool!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Saban must die and burn. Long live Sailor Moon. I desperately wish they would release the last season. Everything else has been, so why not Sailor Stars?

[Lanagirl]

:) :P Wow, that's real cute!!!
I would love to see a picture. I'm sure you will make a sweet costume.
Mars, who is this guy below your nickname?
Is he from X-Men cartoon or I'm mixing something up? :-?
I like x-men.
they are nice fellas :evilgrin:

[Dane E5R]

:) :P Wow, that's real cute!!!
I would love to see a picture. I'm sure you will make a sweet costume.
Mars, who is this guy below your nickname?
Is he from X-Men cartoon or I'm mixing something up? :-?
I like x-men.
they are nice fellas :evilgrin:

lol.. You have a THING for toon dudes!

[Reznorite420]

I wonder if we'll get a chopped up american version over here?If we do, it'll be implemented as a penalty in our judicial system:

Judge: You've been found guilty of breaking and entering. For the next 12 months you are required to watch the live-action Sailor Moon twice a day.

Accused: NO YOUR HONOR! HAVE MERCY ON MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

[Kid Icarus]

That's awesome! I'm colaborating with a friend to make a Sailor Mars costume for a friend of mine. (She kinda looks like Sailor Mars lol)

There was a kick ass Mars cosplayer at GenCon. They onlything that would have mader her costume better would have been longer hair (her hair was only shoulder length).

This series looks really cool... but they need to fix Mercuries hair... She looks like an old lady >_<.

Any idea if the Outer Seshi are gonna be in it? (joking) they could get t.A.T.u. to play Neptune and Uranus (/joking).

[lhb412]

Here's a little bit of info, originally Sailor Moon was going to be in live action, sort of a Power Rangers for girls, but it didn't work out. I'm glad they just stayed to the regular costume and didn't try to make it more of a full body costume like most Japanese superheros.

[Lanagirl]

LOL!
Yeah, I know! I behave like a little girl and I'm crazy about toon dudes :lol:
And my boyfriend is ready to kill me :(
Stupid guy, he makes me look mad :oops:

[Loolaa]

I've never seen Sailor Moon, I don't think it's ever been on in the UK unless it's been on cable.
Those girls do kind of look like cosplayers... but I'm not going to insult it. (I've got no right to as I used to love Beetleborgs :oops:) It looks like it could be a fun show, though.

[Lanagirl]

What do cosplayers and beetleborgs mean?
There is no such meaning in my dictionary :o :-?

[GK Punk]

What do cosplayers and beetleborgs mean?
There is no such meaning in my dictionary :o :-?

Cosplay is Costume and Play combined in to one word.
Beetleborgs was a live action TV show, similar to power rangers.

I do think Sailor Moon was on in UK, because they changed one of the lesbian characters in to a male (She dressed in men's clothing untill she transformed in to a Sailor Warrior)

[EZweasel]

ive watched sailor moon and i hate it. i hate it cause they all talk in cutsey voices..thats not my style. April o'niel could beat them all down starting with jackie chan...

[That Matt Guy]

What do cosplayers and beetleborgs mean?
There is no such meaning in my dictionary :o :-?

The thought of someone trying to look up Beetleborgs in a dicitionary cracks me up. :lol:

[Raven]

What do cosplayers and beetleborgs mean?
There is no such meaning in my dictionary :o :-?

Cosplay is Costume and Play combined in to one word.
Beetleborgs was a live action TV show, similar to power rangers.

I do think Sailor Moon was on in UK, because they changed one of the lesbian characters in to a male (She dressed in men's clothing untill she transformed in to a Sailor Warrior)
:lol: , i remember that, but it was still obvious that they were lovers because the way they spoke :lol: but mabey thats just me.

[Mars-Chan]

:lol:
BTW, the guy in my avvy and beside my quote is none other than Logan himself....WOLVERINE. :ttwisted: :ttwisted:

[GK Punk]

ive watched sailor moon and i hate it. i hate it cause they all talk in cutsey voices..thats not my style. April o'niel could beat them all down starting with jackie chan...

:-?

that dosn't even make sense.

But, there's 9 of the Sailor Warriors, against April? So April can beat a bunch of girls who controll different parts of the elements?

Yeah, good logic.

There are other things out there besides the TMNT dude...

[Mars-Chan]

:lol: You tell 'em, GK! :D

[GK Punk]

...Maybe April could hack Mizuno Ami's computer :lol:

[Mars-Chan]

:lol: THAT would be a sight.
"Something's wrong with my computer! *taps a few buttons, tosses it aside* DA**! :D

[GK Punk]

*Meanwhile April giggles in a corner and runs off* :lol:

[Mars-Chan]

*Luna and the others sweat-bubble as Mars joins April in running off*
Mars: So...did'ja get her?
*April nods*
Mars: GOOD. :evilgrin:

:D :D I'm so mean! :P

[GK Punk]

:lol:

But knowing the rest of the characters, They'd figure out who did it, and Sailor Venus would try to avenge the Computer!

[Mars-Chan]

Sailor Venus: I shall advenge the Computer!
*Sailor Moon picks up the peices*
Sailor Venus: Meh....LATER.

[GK Punk]

bwahahah!

Sailor V: "You can lead a mouser to Splinter, but you can't make him eat it!"

*The rest *sweat drop**

Artemis: "Eh.. Venus-Chan, That's you can lead a horse to water, but can't make it.. oh nevermind..."

*Sailor Venus blushes and scratches the back of her head*

[Mars-Chan]

Bwahahaha! I love Artemis and Luna!
Sailor Moon: Eh, where's a good dictonary of curse words when we need it?
Luna: Moon-Chan!!
*Sailor Moon yelps and giggles embarassedly*
Artemis:I'll never understand girls....
:lol:

[GK Punk]

lol yeah you gotta feel bad for Artemis, he's the only Male in that Group!

I thought it was cute When Minako was changing in front of him, so he covered his eyes in season 2 :lol:

(That's funny for those who don't know, because he is a cat)

[Mars-Chan]

:lol: I remember!

[GK Punk]

man, I am such a Moon-Junky, my wallet chain has a key chain of Venus, Moon and Artemis on it :lol:

[Mars-Chan]

Man...you are obsessed. You want to talk fan? I have TWO of the three TMNT DVD's, I write tons of stories with Mars and the brothers four, AND I dream about them every night! :D

[GK Punk]

:lol:

I am actually considering doing a cheesey Sailor Moon TMNT crossover.
(After all this non-sense, it would be really funny to me)

[Raven]

mmmmmmm chesse...........sailor moon..........gives me a idea :D

[Leo656]

I was never a fan of Sailor Moon, but I did watch it a lot on weekday mornings on what's now UPN Channel 22 (used to be Philly 57) because it came on before Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. It never seemed to make much sense to me, but I don't think they showed the episodes in order anyway. I'm kinda curious to see it, maybe I'll get the DVD. Even though as GK knows my knowledge of anime-type stuff is extremely limited. Heh.

[GK Punk]

Well the US version was Chopped up and episodes were cut out anyways...
If you get any, just get the season 1 box set.

Believe it or not, the story is really good and the characters grow on you :D

[Lanagirl]

:lol: Well, what can I do? I'm a very curious girl. I thought I would find those beetles(I AM SO AFRAID OF THE BEETLES!!!! AWWWWWWWWWWW)
Now, where was I?
Aha, my friend thinks(that's his opinion) that all these girls from Sailor Moon have the wrong sexual orientation. And he also says that they have beetles' wide multicoloured eyes and many awful things...
I wanted to ask.
What do you like in Sailor Moon? If we comapred TMNT force and Sailor's Moon, who would win, how do you think?
I'm just asking so please don't terminate me cause I'LL BE BACK 8) :evilgrin:

[GK Punk]

Well, two of the girls are lesbian, Sailor Uransu and Neptune.
The rest of them are straight, but they all have a crush on neptune when they first meet her... But only because they thought he was just a pretty boy, and not a girl :lol:

As for A fight between the TMNT and Sailor Warriors? Well I dunno.
They'd probably all make friends and eat pizza together actually.

(But otherwise, it'd be kind of unfair, most of the Sailor Warriors are trained in martial arts also, plus they have super powers, the TMNT dosn't have any super powers -_-;; )

[Dane E5R]

Well, two of the girls are lesbian, Sailor Uransu and Neptune.
The rest of them are straight, but they all have a crush on neptune when they first meet her... But only because they thought he was just a pretty boy, and not a girl :lol:

As for A fight between the TMNT and Sailor Warriors? Well I dunno.
They'd probably all make friends and eat pizza together actually.

(But otherwise, it'd be kind of unfair, most of the Sailor Warriors are trained in martial arts also, plus they have super powers, the TMNT dosn't have any super powers -_-;; )

You're a little bass ackwards there, son! It's Uranus that they have a crush on, not Neptune.

[GK Punk]

LOL You're right, I can't believe I Typed the wrong name -_-;;;

[Lanagirl]

:o How can Uransu be a boy and a girl at the same time?
And how can you know that only 2 girls are lesbians?
Yeah, I also think that TMNT and Sailor Moon would be friendly...
But as to Oroku Saki :lol: .........

[GK Punk]

:o How can Uransu be a boy and a girl at the same time?
And how can you know that only 2 girls are lesbians?
Yeah, I also think that TMNT and Sailor Moon would be friendly...
But as to Oroku Saki :lol: .........

Well, in the European versions, Since Uransu dresses as a boy, they changed all of the dialogue to say she was a boy, untill she transforms and then she becomes a girl. But in the original Japanese, she was a girl the whole time.

They did this because Uransu and neptune are lovers, and they didn't want any parents to be opposed to it.

The other girls aren't lesbian, because they all had boyfriends at some point in the series, and are boy crazy the whole series :lol:

[Amanda]

:o How can Uransu be a boy and a girl at the same time?

There *are* people who are believe it or not. :P

Yeah, I also think that TMNT and Sailor Moon would be friendly...

About as friendly as when SM met up with the DBZ characters *shudders*

Amanda (Who still can't believe that was an official video)

[Raven]

Yeah, I also think that TMNT and Sailor Moon would be friendly...

About as friendly as when SM met up with the DBZ characters *shudders*



:lol:

[Lanagirl]

:( My friend compares me to Sailor Moon girls. He wants me to colour my hair into the blue colour. He thinks that they are more beautiful than me. What do I do?
I'm a very sweet girl but I can't have SUCH HUGE BLUE EYES, I'm a human after all
:cry:

[Dane E5R]

Make him dress up like Shredder or any of the other toon dudes you love.

Amanda, there was an official DBZ/SM video? Anyone wanna elaborate on this for me?

[Raven]

Amanda, there was an official DBZ/SM video? Anyone wanna elaborate on this for me?

eh....the meeting, was, um very......eh :roll: lets say every one had a very fun time in this little get together.......

[Raven]

:( My friend compares me to Sailor Moon girls. He wants me to colour my hair into the blue colour. He thinks that they are more beautiful than me. What do I do?
I'm a very sweet girl but I can't have SUCH HUGE BLUE EYES, I'm a human after all
:cry:

tell this guy he needs to stop wishing every thing was a cartoon, and tell him to apreshate(sp) you for what you are!

[Dane E5R]

Major Pain, standing up for women around the globe.

[That Matt Guy]

apreshate

:lol: Man, thats the worst typo yet.

[Barkworm]

Well, in the European versions, Since Uransu dresses as a boy, they changed all of the dialogue to say she was a boy, untill she transforms and then she becomes a girl. But in the original Japanese, she was a girl the whole time.
Yeah, I used to watch Sailor Moon for a while and making a boy of Uranus was one of the most ridiculous things ever. I mean why the hell can't they be lesbian lovers? Are all parents supposed to be ultra-conservative catholic fanatics???

[Leo656]

In a word.... yes. Yes they are.

[Raven]

apreshate

:lol: Man, thats the worst typo yet.
:lol: :lol: the funny thing is I still cant think of how to spell it..........help!

[cqb101]

appreciate

[Raven]

appreciate
heh.....thanks

[cqb101]

appreciate
heh.....thanks

Anytime, dude.

[Raven]

I need to get a dictanary.............. :sweatdro:

[cqb101]

dictionary

[Raven]

ya that to

[cqb101]

too

Sorry, but it's kinda fun to correct you.

[Raven]

ya I know its kinda fun for me to :D

[GK Punk]

:o How can Uransu be a boy and a girl at the same time?

There *are* people who are believe it or not. :P

Yeah, I also think that TMNT and Sailor Moon would be friendly...

About as friendly as when SM met up with the DBZ characters *shudders*

Amanda (Who still can't believe that was an official video)

Well that wasn't really Official, that was done with out the copyrights.
And Elite, It was a Hentai video.

[Lanagirl]

Thanks! I told him what you adviced. Actually he is a very stubborn boy. He is 17.. may be he behaves so strange because he is much younger than me. But that's not the excuse. I adore shredder and batman but I'm looking for them, I'm not waiting for them... I know they don't exist... at least on this planet :dead:
By the way I also don't like Uransu being a boy. Parents should let children realize what it's all about... We can't hide such things as sex, death, drugs.. Kids ought to know that it's life. And if they know about it, they would not be shocked in the future. I'm not telling we must tell them all this stuff when they are 4 or 5... but...
Same problem is in Russia. Parents are not telling children what is what until it's too late :|

[EZweasel]

sorry for my last post. I know there is more stuff out there than TMNT, but i still dont realy care much for sailer moon. And i know my comment didnt make any sense because it wasnt suposed to.

[Lanagirl]

It's ok! :) We all are wrong sometimes! We are people not the Gods.
Crazy guy from Scream told:"WE ALL GO A LITTLE MAD SOMETIMES"
Wow, it used to be one of my favourite films... How could I watch it?
:-?
BTW I have just watched Sakura!
did anyone hear about this cartoon? It's also japanese and very sweet.
:oops:
Who watched The CALL?
It sure is creepy :evilgrin:

[GK Punk]

It's ok! :) We all are wrong sometimes! We are people not the Gods.
Crazy guy from Scream told:"WE ALL GO A LITTLE MAD SOMETIMES"
Wow, it used to be one of my favourite films... How could I watch it?
:-?
BTW I have just watched Sakura!
did anyone hear about this cartoon? It's also japanese and very sweet.
:oops:
Who watched The CALL?
It sure is creepy :evilgrin:

Is it Cardcaptor Sakura? If so, yes, I've seen that one too ^..^

[Lanagirl]

Yes, it's Cardcaptor Sakura!
Do you know how the cartoon ends? :-?
I have no patience to watch it all the time :lol:

[GK Punk]

Basically, Sakura captures all of the Cards, Li gives his up to her, Kero-Chan transforms in to this gigantic Beast (That's his super cool form he always talks about!) And the Cards become the Sakura Cards, Instead of the Clow Cards.

Soon after, a rival group of Magic users/"card captors" show up, Led by a boy named Eriol. Eriol is actually Clow Reed reincarnated.

Eh.. I can't remember what happens after that -_-;; :lol:
(Sorry, it's been about 3 years since I watched it)

[Lanagirl]

:lol: Thanks!
That means that there will be no new episodes of Sakura and Sailor Moon? :o

[GK Punk]

No, the series are over. There are Two Sakura movies though! I dont know if they came out in Russia or not however.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I also think that TMNT and Sailor Moon would be friendly...

About as friendly as when SM met up with the DBZ characters *shudders*

Amanda (Who still can't believe that was an official video)

Well that wasn't really Official, that was done with out the copyrights.

I didn't think so! The person who told me about it in the first place said it was. My apologies for being so gullible :P

[Dane E5R]

Found some new pics of the girls..

http://news.toonzone.net/images/pgsm3.jpg
http://news.toonzone.net/images/pgsm2.jpg

They're um, pretty hot.. :roll:

[cqb101]

Pics don't work.

[Dane E5R]

Try copying and pasting.

[Dr. Doom]

Wow, the red one's kinda hot.

[cqb101]

Wow, the red one's kinda hot.

All of them are kinda hot!

[Dane E5R]

I like how her hair's a darker blonde, so that it's atleast a LITTLE bit more believable.

[Leo656]

GK will have to back me up on this, but I think those chicks are like 14....

[Dr. Doom]

alla them asian girls like like that

[Ninjatron]

They are all under the age of 18.

Oh well! :P

Sayonara.

[Leo656]

:lol: Heh, yeah... but so's Hilary Duff and she's worth the jail time.... :P

[Raven]

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! those girls are figgin hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im gonna watch that show when I get a chance!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o

[Dr. Doom]

What the.................that's a show? -=Bursts out laughing=- Oh god, that looks terrible! I thought it was some retarded cosplay or whatever the hell it's called! My god, that's gunna be the worst show ever!!!

[Barkworm]

The pics really look ridiculous...

[Dr. Doom]

|m|

Yes, quite.

[Lanagirl]

Where do you live,Doom?
and can't you laugh cooler?
your laugh reminds me my grandmother when she was sick :evilgrin:

[Dr. Doom]

LOL. I'm Near Chicago. Doom here has his own small Eurpean country though.


SILENCE!!! SOON THE WORLD WILL BE MINE!! BWA-UH........ERR.... -=TRIES TO THINK OF A NEW LAUGH=- HEE HEE HEE HEE!!!


.......................

somehow Doom finds that slightly less threatening......... :sweatdro:

[Lanagirl]

8)
yeah.. that laughing is not so scary...
but you are alive not dead so you need something special
a special laugh for a special guy
yeah, and by the way, my grandmother died 2 weeks ago so I feel a big pain in my heart and in my soul......
sorry

[Amanda]

What I find fascinating is how long these girls legs are irl like their animated counterparts. :o Very manga-esque!

Amanda

[GK Punk]

What the.................that's a show? -=Bursts out laughing=- Oh god, that looks terrible! I thought it was some retarded cosplay or whatever the hell it's called! My god, that's gunna be the worst show ever!!!

Yes, the girls are between the ages of 14-17, That is a show. The costumes aren't that bad, what did you expect? That's exactly what the costumes look like. Maybe the skirts could be a tad bit better, but maybe when they get a bigger budget or something.

And I *AM* A cosplayer, as are most of my friends so please don't bash Cosplay.

MajorPain: The show will only air in japan right now, you'll probably have to download fan subs when they are available.

Amanda: Yeah, I think each girl LOOKS like who they should. Jupi is tall, Moon is slightly "pudgier" (for lack of a better term) than the rest Etc.

[Raven]

MajorPain: The show will only air in japan right now, you'll probably have to download fan subs when they are available.



well ya I knew that, but it will most likely come here some time in the next 5 to 10 years (if it dosent suck.)

[GK Punk]

I wouldn't hold my breath, I'd look for fan subs starting in december though. (Fans usually translate these things first *nods*)

[Raven]

well, ya. I just cant wait to see how it turns out. i wonder if it will be a remake of the toon, or if it will create a new path.

[GK Punk]

I've heard that it's going to be a re-make. Venus and Tuxedo Mask are suppoused to be Enemies in this version.

[Mars-Chan]

Oy... :roll:
BTW, GK, how's the banner lookin'?

[Raven]

I've heard that it's going to be a re-make. Venus and Tuxedo Mask are suppoused to be Enemies in this version.
tuxedo mask! there making him a villain! holy crap

[GK Punk]

well if you remember right, Tux was a villan for a bit in the original series. The theory the fans have, is that Venus and Tux had a run in revolving around the Silver Crystal.

As for the banner... Well, it's coming... -_-;; Slowly, but coming...