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graphic_content
07-16-2014, 04:36 PM
PABLO HELMAN speaks about the process of capturing the performances, and the hurdles, they had to overcome in melding CG characters with live performances.
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TheSkeletonMan939
07-16-2014, 04:42 PM
Honestly, the only thing appealing about this film is the VFX. Even if the turtles look like ugly idiots, they still look very well-done.
TigerClaw
07-16-2014, 04:42 PM
PABLO HELMAN speaks about the process of capturing the performances, and the hurdles, they had to overcome in melding CG characters with live performances.
ZYJOiKPIr2M
Nice find dude! Just posted that all over twitter.
marcelangelo
07-16-2014, 04:53 PM
thanks for sharing!
MAN, WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN:THE TURTLES ARE N O S U P E R H E R O E S!!!!!;(
before you put me in the haters category let me assure you that Im looking very much forward to this film, but some things are just so sad...to me at least...I mean how shallow are they going to make those four turtles in the next years??there is already too much one sidedness for my taste on the characters in the nick show, now its filtering into the movies as well....donatello is ONLY the smart one, leonardo will only be the focused leader, raphael always the brute and mikey only the youngster...this is it?..I mean, whenever the situation calls for someone to get angry it will always be raph and if it should make th audience smile they take mike?...
thats so stupid.
TigerClaw
07-16-2014, 04:54 PM
thanks for sharing!
MAN, WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN:THE TURTLES ARE N O S U P E R H E R O E S!!!!!;(
before you put me in the haters category let me assure you that Im looking very much forward to this film, but some things are just so sad...to me at least...I mean how shallow are they going to make those four turtles in the next years??there is already too much one sidedness for my taste on the characters in the nick show, now its filtering into the movies as well....donatello is ONLY the smart one, leonardo will only be the focused leader, raphael always the brute and mikey only the youngster...this is it?..I mean, whenever the situation calls for someone to get angry it will always be raph and if it should make th audience smile they take mike?...
thats so stupid.
The Turtles are Superheroes, They fit the criteria of what makes a Superhero I think.
DioLeo451
07-16-2014, 04:56 PM
cool video
TigerClaw
07-16-2014, 04:57 PM
Yeah, I thought the video was good, Explaining how they did the movie.
they shot the movie 3 times, To capture all the performances and camera angles for all the Motion Capture.
marcelangelo
07-16-2014, 05:05 PM
The Turtles are Superheroes, They fit the criteria of what makes a Superhero I think.
I think this is where you take your most turtles joy from that agrees or disagrees with that statement...in the original cartoon I would def agree, the turtles really did 'save the world' a lot...;)it was good fun, but I always found these types of realities and black and white characters more on the stupid side...in the original comics the turtles were definatelly NOT superheroes..they didn't go out on parole to look for trouble, but they always wound up in strange situations and had to take sides..to me it was always more a family story taking place with lots of action and weird adventures.that also counts for the movie turtles so far in my opinion..the turtles never tried to be heroic and do the good thing...
samxsteal
07-16-2014, 05:19 PM
I think this is where you take your most turtles joy from that agrees or disagrees with that statement...in the original cartoon I would def agree, the turtles really did 'save the world' a lot...;)it was good fun, but I always found these types of realities and black and white characters more on the stupid side...in the original comics the turtles were definatelly NOT superheroes..they didn't go out on parole to look for trouble, but they always wound up in strange situations and had to take sides..to me it was always more a family story taking place with lots of action and weird adventures.that also counts for the movie turtles so far in my opinion..the turtles never tried to be heroic and do the good thing...
The OG turtles were a play on Ronin and Dare Devil both super hero's IDK i guess I just always saw them as a type of super hero Since i was little, just always thought of them as Such
IndigoErth
07-16-2014, 05:21 PM
Well, from my one feeble little opinion... Hero, yes. Superhero as a media category, sure. Superhero in the traditional sense of having super powers, no. Super-Awesome Heroes, absolutely.:)
samxsteal
07-16-2014, 05:28 PM
Well, from my one feeble little opinion... Hero, yes. Superhero as a media category, sure. Superhero in the traditional sense of having super powers, no. Super-Awesome Heroes, absolutely.:)
I dont think he mentioned them being "super" heros though not in the traditional sense of "super"
Galactus
07-16-2014, 06:11 PM
I'll preface my post by saying that I'm sure the crew and FX team have all worked very hard and put in a lot of their blood and sweat into making this movie and should be proud oh how it looks.
However I have to nitpick the idea that this movie is "realistic" or "grounded" or "darkness" for that matter. It's got to be one of the most unrealistic and over-the-top version yet. Unless he's specifically talking about the mindset that the turtles look is what they think a real mutant turtle would look like I'm not seeing realistic or grounded.
Same with the idea that this is respecting the mythology. I don't think the writers and production staff set out to respect the mythology and pretty much what we've gotten in that regard has been as good as forced on them.
Also to go add in my view on them being being heroes or super heroes. I've always seen them as quasi-heroes. It isn't their mission to fight crime and they don't go on patrol but it does seem that's what they are in this movie and I'd say they are strong to be described as "super". Hell I'm pretty sure they could they could beat the Avengers sans Hulk and even then I'm sure Don's probably got an anti-gamma ray on him somewhere.
TigerClaw
07-16-2014, 06:38 PM
Oh btw, he mentions about Donatello with all his tech, They were very open about the Tech that he uses.
And reading the description of the footage, It mentions about Donnie having a Hologram on his gauntlet and his Visor showing what looks like the Detective Mode from the Batman Arkham games.
Shark_Blade
07-16-2014, 06:42 PM
Cheers for sharing.Honestly, the only thing appealing about this film is the VFX.
I would say there's tonnes of exciting things to look forward for this movie. :tlove:
- posssible Krang/Kraang appearance in the movie (finally!)
- Shredder's return to the big screen (finally!)
- Shredder's radical armor suit
- Awesome unprecedented turtles design (with clothing!)
- Megan Fox as April (and she's wearing yellow! and she's incredibly hot)
- Turtles van appearance (finally!)
- OT characters appearance, namely Vernon and Bernadette
- outstanding SFX judging from the trailers
- pizza hut
- Karai in live action film!
... and so much more!! :tgrin:
DioLeo451
07-16-2014, 06:48 PM
Oh btw, he mentions about Donatello with all his tech, They were very open about the Tech that he uses.
And reading the description of the footage, It mentions about Donnie having a Hologram on his gauntlet and his Visor showing what looks like the Detective Mode from the Batman Arkham games.
Come Ooonn Turtle Com
mikey22
07-16-2014, 07:14 PM
they did it 3 times
once w/ the leaked script
once and still bashers
once w/ kevin eastman helping out third times a charm
Galactus
07-16-2014, 07:15 PM
I would say there's tonnes of exciting things to look forward for this movie.
Let's see...
- posssible Krang/Kraang appearance in the movie (finally!)
It might be nice but it's not something which is guaranteed.
- Shredder's return to the big screen (finally!)
Potentially but his presence isn't really enough to excite me if he's nothing like Shredder.
- Shredder's radical armor suit
It was okay until metal peacock feathers flew out of his wrists. Not excited.
- Awesome unprecedented turtles design (with clothing!)
Even if you genuinely like these designs you have concede lots of fans don't. Like the Shredder it's not something that many are going to get excited about. Heck even those positive articles from ign and collider mention the look as something to get over as opposed to something that really works.
- Megan Fox as April (and she's wearing yellow! and she's incredibly hot)
If that's your criteria they could have gotten Kate Upton to play April. She's doesn't look like April and isn't really an actress but isn't she the current "hot" girl and I'm sure she'd wear yellow.
Or...go with me on this they could have gotten someone who is hot and can also act. Seriously like the turtle designs this seems to be a turn off for a lot of people.
- Turtles van appearance (finally!)
It looks very silly to me.
- OT characters appearance, namely Vernon and Bernadette
Even the biggest Fred Wolf fan would probably have Vernon and Burne far down the list of characters they'd want to see. Also considering that they wont act at all like the characters they're named after then what's the point?
- outstanding SFX judging from the trailers
I'll give you that.
- pizza hut
What about it?
- Karai in live action film!
We'll see that pans out.
... and so much more!! :tgrin:
Well...it's nice that one person is excited.
THGhost
07-16-2014, 07:26 PM
Thanks for sharing, interesting stuff. That guy does say "erm" a lot though, doesn't it? :P
Megan Fox as April (and she's wearing yellow! and she's incredibly hot)
I've never found Megan Fox attractive at all. I think she's fugly as all hell. :ohwell:
RedRocBoy
07-16-2014, 11:11 PM
Cheers for sharing.
I would say there's tonnes of exciting things to look forward for this movie. :tlove:
- posssible Krang/Kraang appearance in the movie (finally!)
- Shredder's return to the big screen (finally!)
- Shredder's radical armor suit
- Awesome unprecedented turtles design (with clothing!)
- Megan Fox as April (and she's wearing yellow! and she's incredibly hot)
- Turtles van appearance (finally!)
- OT characters appearance, namely Vernon and Bernadette
- outstanding SFX judging from the trailers
- pizza hut
- Karai in live action film!
... and so much more!! :tgrin:
I like the way you think bro. :tcool::tcool::tcool: So amped for this movie.
Candy Kappa
07-17-2014, 12:49 AM
Honestly, the only thing appealing about this film is the VFX. Even if the turtles look like ugly idiots, they still look very well-done.
Pretty much this,. The turtles designs are pretty bad, but they are well made, animated and especially textured. Raph's skin texture look very much like the skin of a dry turtle. And while their shells are stupidly designed beyond belief the textures are amazing.
Sighphi
07-17-2014, 01:14 AM
And we got confirmation that we can blame Bay for something! He was part in the design of the turtles. He was probably the one that thought it was a smart idea to give Don a bunch of surge protectors to wear on his chest.
IndigoErth
07-17-2014, 01:18 AM
Where... (time mark? admit I didn't look at much) I wanna know what direction to glare in.
Leo doing his job of winning me over here bit by bit, even still though I ain't a fan of their choices for them...
Sumac
07-17-2014, 09:18 AM
I would say there's tonnes of exciting things to look forward for this movie.
Like Explosions, explosions and explosions? Oh, and dick jokes.
Not enough to excite me.
I would say there's tonnes of exciting things to look forward for this movie.
- posssible Krang/Kraang appearance in the movie (finally!)
- Shredder's return to the big screen (finally!)
- Shredder's radical armor suit
- Awesome unprecedented turtles design (with clothing!)
- Megan Fox as April (and she's wearing yellow! and she's incredibly hot)
- Turtles van appearance (finally!)
- OT characters appearance, namely Vernon and Bernadette
- outstanding SFX judging from the trailers
- pizza hut
- Karai in live action film!
Since Krang will most likely look nothing like before, I kind of wary of this.
Shredder looks like Megatron - I am not excited. I'd prefer him being martial artist with armor, not robotic armor with human inside.
Turtles desings are ugly. Nothing to be excited.
Fox is not kind of actress I like, so the same as above.
I could live without van, Vernon and Bern, especially since they have nothing to do with original characters.
If I want to see something solely for SFX, I'd play video game.
Pizza Hut...what it has to do with anything?
Karai...considering the rest of the movie, I don't care about her. Though, I definitely like her.
A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-17-2014, 09:52 AM
Like Explosions, explosions and explosions? Oh, and dick jokes.
Not enough to excite me.
Since Krang will most likely look nothing like before, I kind of wary of this.
Shredder looks like Megatron - I am not excited. I'd prefer him being martial artist with armor, not robotic armor with human inside.
Turtles desings are ugly. Nothing to be excited.
Fox is not kind of actress I like, so the same as above.
I could live without van, Vernon and Bern, especially since they have nothing to do with original characters.
If I want to see something solely for SFX, I'd play video game.
Pizza Hut...what it has to do with anything?
Karai...considering the rest of the movie, I don't care about her. Though, I definitely like her.
How do you know Shredder won't know martial arts?
The Boston Ninja Turtle
07-17-2014, 09:55 AM
How do you know Shredder won't know martial arts?
he is a giant robot..he most likely wont actually do anything but smash and shot sharp feathers
MrTMNT2012
07-17-2014, 09:56 AM
How do you know Shredder won't know martial arts?
Because he/she is a time traveller and has seen the film already. Or he/she is a psychic.
A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-17-2014, 09:57 AM
Because he/she is a time traveller and has seen the film already. Or he/she is a psychic.
oooohhhhh...that explains that then
A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-17-2014, 09:58 AM
he is a giant robot..he most likely wont actually do anything but smash and shot sharp feathers
maybe...maybe not. Lets wait to see the film
THGhost
07-17-2014, 01:04 PM
Gosh darn it, I keep seeing Gifs of the movie that I haven't seen before.
Which trailer/clip are the ones above me from then?
IndigoErth
07-17-2014, 01:09 PM
Gosh darn it, I keep seeing Gifs of the movie that I haven't seen before.
Which trailer/clip are the ones above me from then?
http://youtu.be/nerTNJeMD48?list=PL02yPQGOgZ1LVfXnDKZvyoomLTXUM1nv 4
:)
Sighphi
07-17-2014, 03:37 PM
Where... (time mark? admit I didn't look at much) I wanna know what direction to glare in.
Leo doing his job of winning me over here bit by bit, even still though I ain't a fan of their choices for them...
Starts at 3:45.
Sumac
07-17-2014, 03:52 PM
Because he/she is a time traveller and has seen the film already. Or he/she is a psychic.
Ah, somebody angry that not everyone hailing another Bay-o-rama. Good. Let the butthurt flow through you.
As for the Shredder - it doesn't matter if he knows martial arts or not. He is in giant exoskeleton body covered with spikes (which have more spikes because designers are "awesome" like that). He only need punch things to effectively kill them. Besides, if he does any sophisticated move - it will look ridiculous.
I just can see the final battle in the movie: MegaShredderTron does roundhouse kick and..falls from excessive weight, crushing man inside. Hulkrtles crack some shell-jokes and go home to enjoy some pizza and make furniture. The END. :D
THGhost
07-17-2014, 07:11 PM
http://youtu.be/nerTNJeMD48?list=PL02yPQGOgZ1LVfXnDKZvyoomLTXUM1nv 4
:)
Thanks! Found a few more clips on that account I hadn't seen before either.
Hulkrtles
How in the heck do you even pronounce that? I'd have gone with Hulkles. :P
Sumac
07-17-2014, 08:28 PM
How in the heck do you even pronounce that? I'd have gone with Hulkles.
I pronounce it as they look: ugly. ;)
thebrownranger
07-17-2014, 08:45 PM
Thanks for the share. Love hearing anything behind the scenes related when it comes to VFX.
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