Legend Of The Yokai Promo Clip

[TigerClaw]

So a new Promo Clip for the TMNT movie was released today, It looks like its giving us a bit of the back story from the movie, It appears that, Humanoid Turtles existed in ancient Japan at some point.

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[Xiewin]

So a new Promo Clip for the TMNT movie was released today, It looks like its giving us a bit of the back story from the movie, It appears that, Humanoid Turtles existed in ancient Japan at some point.

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WHAT??? :teek:

[Quasimod0]

Looks like the 2003 series Shredder there. lol

[TigerClaw]

WHAT??? :teek:
That explains the images of the Scrolls we saw, Of figures that look like Turtles.

[Quasimod0]

Was that Splinter talking or no?
I'm not a big fan of them being mystical creatures or some big destiny plot or anything like that. So I hope that isn't whats gonna happen

[graphic_content]

So a new Promo Clip for the TMNT movie was released today, It looks like its giving us a bit of the back story from the movie, It appears that, Humanoid Turtles existed in ancient Japan at some point.

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TC - ya beat me too it. I just saw it a few minutes ago.

Honestly I was a bit concerned watching this because the mythos they were drawing from seemed to harken back to the 'demon' ancestry of the TMNT III film.

But the narrator did say:

One generation passed the legend on to the next

So, SPLINTER may have used the legend as a bedtime story for the Turtles, and not much else.

Did the NARRATOR sound like Tony Shaloub to anyone else?

OFFICIAL 'LEGEND OF THE YOKAI' WEBSITE:

Official Website (http://www.legendoftheyokai.com/)

[Quasimod0]

Sounded kinda like Shaloub to me, yeah.

[miru]

Sounds a bit like Powder's reboot idea.

[Kanon]

What the....? They even put elements of the third movie in it!?

What´s next? "Splinter gets cake" from the 2007 one? :lol:

[Xiewin]

TC - ya beat me too it. I just saw it a few minutes ago.

Honestly I was a bit concerned watching this because the mythos they were drawing from seemed to harken back to the 'demon' ancestry of the TMNT III film.

But the narrator did say:



So, SPLINTER may have used the legend as a bedtime story for the Turtles, and not much else.

Did the NARRATOR sound like Tony Shaloub to anyone else?

OFFICIAL 'LEGEND OF THE YOKAI' WEBSITE:

Official Website (http://www.legendoftheyokai.com/)

That makes so much more sense.

[TigerClaw]

TC - ya beat me too it. I just saw it a few minutes ago.

Honestly I was a bit concerned watching this because the mythos they were drawing from seemed to harken back to the 'demon' ancestry of the TMNT III film.

But the narrator did say:



So, SPLINTER may have used the legend as a bedtime story for the Turtles, and not much else.

Did the NARRATOR sound like Tony Shaloub to anyone else?

OFFICIAL 'LEGEND OF THE YOKAI' WEBSITE:

Official Website (http://www.legendoftheyokai.com/)
It looks like a little bit of IDW influence.

[Donnieangelo]

What the....? They even put elements of the third movie in it!?

What´s next? "Splinter gets cake" from the 2007 one? :lol:
Mmm, buttercream frosting...

[graphic_content]

a section of the website reads:

Long before the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles captured the hearts of people around the world, there were the Kappa Yokai, mythical creatures summoned by the spirits of honour, wisdom, courage and brotherhood. The Legend of the Yokai is an exhibition of global artists, featuring pieces inspired by these principles and the four heroes that embody them.

They may just be using the 'LEGEND OF YOKAI' as a jump off point for further promotion, as it the Turtles' story draws similarities to Japanese historical mythos.

[TigerClaw]

a section of the website reads:



They may just be using the 'LEGEND OF YOKAI' as a jump off point for further promotion, as it the Turtles' story draws similarities to Japanese historical mythos.
Which seems to make sense in a way.

And Splinter was probably telling this mythological story to the Kid Turtles.

[The Stryker]

I'm cool with it. It'll explain Sachs' obsession with the Shredder armor and giant turtles at the very least.

.....Kappa!

[graphic_content]

Which seems to make sense in a way.

And Splinter was probably telling this mythological story to the Kid Turtles.

honestly, im somewhat concerned because they are harkening back to Japanese mythology, with creatures resembling a race of turtles, it'll spur the old arguments again...but it is, what it is.

I LOVED the art style, and I really enjoy the artwork on the website.

A quote on the homepage reads:

An exhibition that explores the mythical origins of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

If nothing else, its just a showcase of Turtle inspired artwork, never a bad thing.

And to think, a few weeks ago, I was complaining about their lack of presence in marketing. Things like this dont happen overnight, its clearly been in the works for a while.

[Le Glorieux Tortue]

This is one of the rare things I like from TMNT III, very cool coincidence that there are creatures in Japanese mythology resemble the TMNT. I would bet Peter Laird and Kevin Eastman had no idea of that.

Although I like stories where it's just a random thing that happened and nothing else, it is nice to tie it back to something sometimes. It gives a warmer feeling than a sort of nihilistic one

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Kappa? Cappuccino? Nah, makes me hyper.

[Donnieangelo]

Kappa? Cappuccino? Nah, makes me hyper.
What's a Kappa?
:lol:

[ctt4lfecw]

Alright! It looks like Yoshi will be in the backstory after all, as the master who taught the original Kappas.

[TigerClaw]

What's a Kappa?
:lol:
Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_%28folklore%29

[Donnieangelo]

Here you go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_%28folklore%29
I was just quoting Mikey. XD

[unlundun]

I think this is definitely something that splinter tells the boys to show them their significance, that they have an important role in the world. It would also be a missed opportunity not to use this as part of the mythology.

I really like how much effort has been put into this, and the turtles themselves.

so excited to see this film!

[graphic_content]

Statues of MALE and FEMALE KAPPA:

http://i.imgur.com/kQ8fkDi.jpg

source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_%28folklore%29#mediaviewer/File:Kappastatues.JPG)

[TigerClaw]

Statues of MALE and FEMALE KAPPA:

http://i.imgur.com/kQ8fkDi.jpg

source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_%28folklore%29#mediaviewer/File:Kappastatues.JPG)
Apparently they had genitals and human boobs. hah

[Matt2310]

probably gonna be ancient turtle warriors like the scroll on the wall (that used to fight utroms) and sachs and aprils dad tried to re create those turtles with some ooze ... which will probably lead to sachs being a utrom himself...

[Leo656]

So Turtle Boobs are historically canon? Quick, spread the word, so people can stop insisting that was the worst thing about Venus. :lol:

[Glados]

Statues of MALE and FEMALE KAPPA:

http://i.imgur.com/kQ8fkDi.jpg

source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_%28folklore%29#mediaviewer/File:Kappastatues.JPG)

Your username suddenly fitted really well with your post... :tlol:

[Donnieangelo]

Apparently they had genitals and human boobs. hah
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyhu6f7Ui11r31q91o1_500.gif

[Leo656]

Are they ecstatic or horrified? :lol:

[Donnieangelo]

Are they ecstatic or horrified? :lol:
Horrified, I guess.
XD

[Leo656]

Nobody's horrified by Boobs.

Except that one scene in The Shining, and that other scene in that other movie where Kathy Bates decided to see how many people she could make vomit on command.

Other than that, nobody's horrified by Boobs. Boobs are Awesome. :tgrin:

[TigerClaw]

Though the Kappa in those statues have web feet, And there probably different types of Kappa in the mythology, Some looking like Turtles.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Other than that, nobody's horrified by Boobs. Boobs are Awesome. :tgrin:

well i do have a friend who on my 21st bday asked how long we were staying at the strip club cause and i quote "He could only look at boobs for so long"

[Donnieangelo]

Nobody's horrified by Boobs.

Except that one scene in The Shining, and that other scene in that other movie where Kathy Bates decided to see how many people she could make vomit on command.

Other than that, nobody's horrified by Boobs. Boobs are Awesome. :tgrin:
:lol:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lso4e9pMkR1qlrzy2.gif

[Leo656]

well i do have a friend who on my 21st bday asked how long we were staying at the strip club cause and i quote "He could only look at boobs for so long"

That's grounds for making new friends if I ever heard it. :lol:

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[Xav]

Nobody's horrified by Boobs.Not even the gays?

[Donnieangelo]

That's grounds for making new friends if I ever heard it. :lol:

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OH YEAH!
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/38502/michael-jackson-dirty-diana-o.gif

[graphic_content]

Your username suddenly fitted really well with your post... :tlol:

:lol:

the more i think about it, the more i am digging the idea of Splinter telling the young turtle these stories. it fits the mold that he's really trying to shape them into something more.

now correct me if Im wrong, but in one of the TV SPOTS recently he says:

my sons, you're training is not yet complete, but you will become the warriors that LEGENDS are made of...

when I find the spot, ill edit my post.

[Leo656]

Not even the gays?

Well, I WAS gonna make an "in-the-closet" joke about Boston's buddy, but I was 80% sure you could get arrested for that nowadays.

I figure if straight guys aren't freaked out looking at wang then gay guys shouldn't be freaked out looking at boobs. If anything they might be disinterested rather than horrified. :lol:

Donnieangelo: "Sha-MONE-ah!"

[Vicky82]

Wow that promo was great, this movie is getting me more excited :D

[trikuza]

I like that it shows a more traditional, non mech shredder. I hope the movie has a flash back to that.

[Donnieangelo]

Well, I WAS gonna make an "in-the-closet" joke about Boston's buddy, but I was 80% sure you could get arrested for that nowadays.

I figure if straight guys aren't freaked out looking at wang then gay guys shouldn't be freaked out looking at boobs. If anything they might be disinterested rather than horrified. :lol:

Donnieangelo: "Sha-MONE-ah!"
Heheheheh. :lol:
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/799997/michael-jackson-bad-era-o.gif

[TigerClaw]

I like that it shows a more traditional, non mech shredder. I hope the movie has a flash back to that.
I bet the movie will show Splinter telling that Story to the Kid Turtles.

[trikuza]

I bet the movie will show Splinter telling that Story to the Kid Turtles.

Yeah that might happen. Not sure if he will be telling it to them as more of a fictitious folk story with a life lesson, or if the movie will have supernatural type stuff like the IDW series.

But Splinter might just refer to shredder as a demon so the little kid turtles know that he's a bad, bad man lol

[graphic_content]

Yeah that might happen. Not sure if he will be telling it to them as more of a fictitious folk story with a life lesson, or if the movie will have supernatural type stuff like the IDW series.

If SPLINTER ends up being a reincarnation of YOSHI - then Im willing to go with the Turtles being a reincarnation of the 'Yokai'

[trikuza]

If SPLINTER ends up being a reincarnation of YOSHI - then Im willing to go with the Turtles being a reincarnation of the 'Yokai'

finally there's something else to analyze that isn't raph's red underwear.

At 1:15 there's a woman holding a baby. Maybe that's tang shen and karai and promo #3 could elaborate on that??

[graphic_content]

At 1:15 there's a woman holding a baby. Maybe that's tang shen and karai and promo #3 could elaborate on that??

funny enough, CBM TRAILERS posted it on their YouTube page, titling it #2, but Paramount International, the original source, only has ONE vid posted.

i think CBM, got it wrong. they have a habit of ripping other peoples vids, and re-releasing them, like they have exclusive content.

[Leolead]

I might sound weird but that really creeped me out.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

At 1:15 there's a woman holding a baby. Maybe that's tang shen and karai and promo #3 could elaborate on that??

thats supposed to be fudel japan though...timeline wise it wouldnt work the baby being karai


not that age has ever been something hollywood considers (POTC)

[IndigoErth]

Kappa is real legend... legends could have some basis in reality... holy hell they're real. :D I wish.


Yeah, I could see it being more told to them by Splinter as maybe helping to instill a sense of purpose and reason for existing. Would personally prefer that they themselves however are normal mortal beings.

[TigerClaw]

funny enough, CBM TRAILERS posted it on their YouTube page, titling it #2, but Paramount International, the original source, only has ONE vid posted.

i think CBM, got it wrong. they have a habit of ripping other peoples vids, and re-releasing them, like they have exclusive content.
I checked on CBM's youtube and noticed Promo Clip #1 is the Character Promo.

[trikuza]

thats supposed to be fudel japan though...timeline wise it wouldnt work the baby being karai


not that age has ever been something hollywood considers (POTC)

forgot about the age thing lol.

[TigerClaw]

Oroku Saki could be a direct descendant of the Shredder like figure from the Promo. and his Armor in the movie is a way to honor his family's heritage.

[Leolead]

Do we know who's playing Karai in this movie?

[TigerClaw]

Do we know who's playing Karai in this movie?
Yes, Shes played by Minae Noji, Here's her Twitter, Facebook & Tumblr page.
https://twitter.com/minaenoji
https://www.facebook.com/minaenojifanpage
http://minaenoji.tumblr.com/

[Leolead]

Yes, Shes played by Minae Noji, Here's her Twitter, Facebook & Tumblr page.
https://twitter.com/minaenoji
https://www.facebook.com/minaenojifanpage
http://minaenoji.tumblr.com/

Awesome! i really hope Shredder is indeed played by Mark Dacascos.

[Leo656]

Nah, he still owes us a sequel to "Double Dragon", first. He can't be wasting his time on crap like this.

[Xiewin]

Nah, he still owes us a sequel to "Double Dragon", first. He can't be wasting his time on crap like this.

What? Why?

[Leo656]

:lol: Holy sh*t, I thought that comment was tongue-in-cheek enough without needing an emoticon. The idea that anyone at all wants a Double Dragon sequel should have given it away. :lol:

[CyberCubed]

I am so done with this movie.

[Leo656]

You can't be "Done" with something you never started with in the first place. :lol:

[Donnieangelo]

You can't be "Done" with something you never started with in the first place. :lol:
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/eames/3940715/446669/446669_original.jpg

[Leolead]

Nah, he still owes us a sequel to "Double Dragon", first. He can't be wasting his time on crap like this.

Well i'd rather see him in TMNT, he's a great actor, i could see him pulling off Oroku.

[trikuza]

I haven't watched the double dragon movie in almost two decades, but I bet its pretty bad...

[Leo656]

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/eames/3940715/446669/446669_original.jpg

"A-HEEEEEE-hee! OWWWWW! Dabadab, UNGH, SHA-MONE-AH!" :lol: (I could do this all day)

leolead: It's been made clear I was simply doing schtick. :lol:

[Allio]

I haven't watched the double dragon movie in almost two decades, but I bet its pretty bad...

it was pretty bad two decades ago

[trikuza]

it was pretty bad two decades ago

:lol::lol::lol::tlol:

[Leo656]

^^I like that your three regular emoticons are laughing so hard that Raph just had to join in. That tickles me. :lol:

[graphic_content]

I am so done with this movie.

CUBED - bro, you can't be done with something you were never on board on with.

Personally, I never liked the whole Kappa-mythos from TMNT III, but if they go the reincarnation route, I think I'd be willing to accept it.

[Donnieangelo]

"A-HEEEEEE-hee! OWWWWW! Dabadab, UNGH, SHA-MONE-AH!" :lol: (I could do this all day)

leolead: It's been made clear I was simply doing schtick. :lol:
:D
http://media.giphy.com/media/YzdlL3QibA7S0/giphy.gif

[Leo656]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MFz0z7jVEKU/TCouUISGhuI/AAAAAAAAAtU/P9d6Ifm1SSM/s320/1273951-964541_866301_bwahaha_super_super_super.jpg

[Donnieangelo]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MFz0z7jVEKU/TCouUISGhuI/AAAAAAAAAtU/P9d6Ifm1SSM/s320/1273951-964541_866301_bwahaha_super_super_super.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/25a6c9363211806a07d17a206b608f4b/tumblr_mrbvtyl6sh1rkmkdxo1_400.gif

[trikuza]

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u599/Devin_James_Doty/tumblr_n8v6vubzmm1qgqcclo1_500_zps6f88a6a7.jpg

[Jester]

The website almost makes it look like a sequel.

TMNT: The Legend of the Yokai...

Oh...right...
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1aypyQcEi1rso7exo1_500.gif

[Donnieangelo]

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/u599/Devin_James_Doty/tumblr_n8v6vubzmm1qgqcclo1_500_zps6f88a6a7.jpg
Yes; just YES!

[Leo656]

:lol: Jester, You sonafabitch :lol:

[Donnieangelo]

:lol: Jester, You sonafabitch :lol:
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/69219/chipmunks-dancing-o.gif

[graphic_content]

additional background artwork from the Yokai-Promo website:source (http://www.legendoftheyokai.com/#!/home)

http://i.imgur.com/HZfNqpx.png

http://i.imgur.com/oU5Su2g.png

http://i.imgur.com/31CEOjG.png

http://i.imgur.com/tYTZBU0.png

[Candy Kappa]

So a new Promo Clip for the TMNT movie was released today, It looks like its giving us a bit of the back story from the movie, It appears that, Humanoid Turtles existed in ancient Japan at some point.

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Heroic perverted anus-vampire that swims really well.

My favorite Yokai.

[Donnieangelo]

Heroic perverted anus-vampire that swims really well.

My favorite Yokai.
Well then...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/67c9c7f2d14f0e70d2c74a0f0c202efb/tumblr_mmlm52z4ef1s71dm2o1_500.gif

[Candy Kappa]

Looks like big sized is a fetish going on with this movie as even the Kappa, whose name literally mean "river child" is pretty sizable then the usual folklore variety.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Posted this in the marketing, but figure this is where discussion would seem more appropriate:

So that explains the scroll we've seen on Sachs' wall. It's the legend of the yokai, I'm betting.

And so now, in modern times, the science-created "Yokai" are the TMNT and the legend is repeated in the modern times.

Still has a little too much destiny/fate aspects to it for my liking, but that's Hollywood's big fascination lately.

I will note, however, that we clearly see Shredder in that legend and he's supported by "demons" or yokai themselves. Just a little trivia...kitsune are a type of yokai as well. More loose ties to IDW, but I don't expect a feudal Japan Saki in the film and the angle for Hamato Yoshi and his sons doesn't seem to be there here, so don't take me as suggesting that. Just purely noting IDW's Kitsune is a yokai supporting Shredder in the past, similar to the demons supporting what is clearly Shredder visually in this legend.
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[xChri5x]

Can anyone get full sized images of the artwork off of that site?

[thebrownranger]

Hmm...I'm pretty intrigued. Could be interesting.

[TigerClaw]

Posted this in the marketing, but figure this is where discussion would seem more appropriate:

So that explains the scroll we've seen on Sachs' wall. It's the legend of the yokai, I'm betting.

And so now, in modern times, the science-created "Yokai" are the TMNT and the legend is repeated in the modern times.

Still has a little too much destiny/fate aspects to it for my liking, but that's Hollywood's big fascination lately.

I will note, however, that we clearly see Shredder in that legend and he's supported by "demons" or yokai themselves. Just a little trivia...kitsune are a type of yokai as well. More loose ties to IDW, but I don't expect a feudal Japan Saki in the film and the angle for Hamato Yoshi and his sons doesn't seem to be there here, so don't take me as suggesting that. Just purely noting IDW's Kitsune is a yokai supporting Shredder in the past, similar to the demons supporting what is clearly Shredder visually in this legend.
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I think the Oroku Saki in the movie is a descendant of the Shredder looking guy in that legend. Why else would he kind of dress like him in modern times?

[Donnieangelo]

Looks like the 2003 series Shredder there. lol
Yeah.
http://media.giphy.com/media/YF7e5lqDvhdy8/giphy.gif

[Sumac]

...and in the end everyone are reincarnations!! :o

Or could it be that Turtles instead being part of the alien race, now part of the Kappa race (whatever it is)?

It's stupid anyway...:tcry:

[Lou 500]

That's cool, but weren't kappas the demons that drowned people and sucked the intestines from their butts? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_(folklore))

One lesser evil over another, I guess.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

What the **** did I just watch?:tconfuse:

[Lou 500]

Heroic perverted anus-vampire that swims really well.

My favorite Yokai.

Crap, that explains Mikey's interest in April. She'd better watch her back(side).

[Candy Kappa]

That's cool, but weren't kappas the demons that drowned people and sucked the intestines from their butts? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_(folklore))

One lesser evil over another, I guess.

Yeah, they sucks your soul out of your butt, hence the Nick name anus-vampires.

They also eat children.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

I think the Oroku Saki in the movie is a descendant of the Shredder looking guy in that legend. Why else would he kind of dress like him in modern times?

I would say it's possible the armor is an heirloom passed down through the generations of the Foot Clan and, as you said, Saki is the current head of said clan descended from the Shredder of legend. So rather than "kind of dress like him" he literally is dressing in the armor, only being modified and improved through modern technology.

[Candy Kappa]

Or it's a new armor, I doubt anyone would do updates on a ancient heirloom.

[TigerClaw]

I would say it's possible the armor is an heirloom passed down through the generations of the Foot Clan and, as you said, Saki is the current head of said clan descended from the Shredder of legend. So rather than "kind of dress like him" he literally is dressing in the armor, only being modified and improved through modern technology.
Yeah, That makes a lot of sense.

[Andrew NDB]

The demons are clearly from Dimension X. The many Shredders over the years will probably be revealed to be vessels for Krang.

In a word: ugh.

[discordiatookie]

Sounds a bit like Powder's reboot idea.

That popped into my head when watching!

Anyway, I really like this angle they're going for.

And this thread is all kinds of hilarious, normally when in on the movie section I spend my time scrolling past a sh*t ton of arguing. This thread warms my heart a little seeing everyone having a wee laugh and getting on.

Oh, and boobs are awesome!

[samxsteal]

Or it's a new armor, I doubt anyone would do updates on a ancient heirloom.

I think he may have been talking about this https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10489795_1466321383608025_453135189108256550_n.jpg
that likely an older version of the armor

[Redeemer]

Sounds a bit like Powder's reboot idea.

Thats what I was thinking of too. Maybe they ripped off Powder :lol:

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Or it's a new armor, I doubt anyone would do updates on a ancient heirloom.

Hollywood science. Your argument is not invalid, but still ignored. :D

And yes, Sam, that is correct.

[DarthEmpress]

I'm so happy they're including the Japanese supernatural in this movie, even if it's just a story Splinter tells to his boys <3 I smiled when I saw the kappa shown with their little "bowls" of water on their heads and hair. I'm glad they didn't just make them look exactly like the turtles because they're not how the kappa have been portrayed.

Of course, they left out the part about the shirikodama...thankfully ^_^

[TigerClaw]

This harkens back to TMNT 3 with the Scroll showing Kappa type warriors during ancient Japan

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2013/02/tmnt21-1361756690.jpg

[Traximus]

Looks like it'll be somewhat similar to the IDW comic backstory. That's cool.

I just wish they were a little less on-the-nose with the weapons.

[xChri5x]

This harkens back to TMNT 3 with the Scroll showing Kappa type warriors during ancient Japan

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2013/02/tmnt21-1361756690.jpg

I've always wondered about that.

[Cryomancer]

"honour, wisdom, courage and brotherhood"

Yes Hollywood I get it, 4 qualities you can argue the TMNT each represent you are so clever. Not sure that wisdom and courage are the words I would use for (presumably) Donatello and Raphael though. Intelligence and (hardheaded, stupid) Bravery might fit better.

[Powder]

Not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Kind of a big middle finger to Japanese folk tales & ancient culture though, as Kappa were definitely not creatures of honor & all that jazz. They'd lure you into the swamps and suck your intestines out through your asshole. Hence them being feared & referred to as DEMONS.

[Galactus]

Not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Kind of a big middle finger to Japanese folk tales & ancient culture though, as Kappa were definitely not creatures of honor & all that jazz. They'd lure you into the swamps and suck your intestines out through your asshole. Hence them being feared & referred to as DEMONS.

* ultra raspy old guy voice

Some were good, some were veeery bad

[Ninjinister]

Not sure what to make of it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Kind of a big middle finger to Japanese folk tales & ancient culture though, as Kappa were definitely not creatures of honor & all that jazz. They'd lure you into the swamps and suck your intestines out through your asshole. Hence them being feared & referred to as DEMONS.

* ultra raspy old guy voice

Some were good, some were veeery bad

Galactus hit it on the nose. Like any species, kappa aren't necessarily all evil. Tengu, kappa, kitsune, tanuki, even oni... there's tales of them being altruistic, heroic, or just... "normal" in demeanor. To say kappa weren't honorable, to boot, is actually patently wrong. They would actually DIE for their honor, even the bad ones (they were forced to bow if you bowed, which would make them pour the water out from their head cavity, killing them)

Ghost-ish yokai/bakemono actually were more "evil" by nature on the whole(as in demonic/spiritual beings that were once human), but even then, it's not an absolute.

[TerranigmaFreak]

TMNT 3? I like it.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Galactus hit it on the nose.

pretty sure Galactus was just quoting splinter from TMNT 3

[Powder]

Galactus hit it on the nose. Like any species, kappa aren't necessarily all evil. Tengu, kappa, kitsune, tanuki, even oni... there's tales of them being altruistic, heroic, or just... "normal" in demeanor. To say kappa weren't honorable, to boot, is actually patently wrong. They would actually DIE for their honor, even the bad ones (they were forced to bow if you bowed, which would make them pour the water out from their head cavity, killing them)

Ghost-ish yokai/bakemono actually were more "evil" by nature on the whole(as in demonic/spiritual beings that were once human), but even then, it's not an absolute.

I can't say I've heard that side of the story, but as a fellow weeb I will take your word on it. I don't think it's wrong to say they've been depicted as evil more often than good, though.

[Raven]

I believe Kappa's have been predominately depicted as jerks more then evil, but its doesn't go without saying they can't be semi good...um kappa's. I've read the story about the kappa's bowing and such, but I know unlike kitsune theres largely more stories of them being jerks. So its easier to think their nothing but evil demons.

If this really intertwines into the movie in some way or another, then my interests have really jumped again. Although it does give off some vibes of the IDW series I am really digging this aspect more then anything else I've seen come out of this movie.

[Cure]

I'd love to contribute, but the only kappa I know are of the candy variety.

[DarthEmpress]

Stories about kappa differ depending on who's telling them. Yes, kappa have traditionally been depicted as "morally ambiguous," if we're to use the Western term, but so have all Yokai, including the kitsune and tengu. Modern day adaptation of kappa range from cute water sprites to aggressive brutes. Once again, it depends on the story. I see no problem with this movie showcasing the kappa as more honorable; if anything, the gray nature of the Japanese supernatural realm provides an abundance of room for creativity.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

THIS IS GREAT! ACTUAL TIES TO JAPANESE FOLKLORE! I'm liking this movie more and more!

And once again, from the east asian history major to the haters- YES Kappa had honor, NO yokai such as kappa were not nesscessarily evil (demons in japan weren't always evil), YES ninja in Japanese follore could be heroic protectors of the people. (Ishikawa goemon people!) This is probably the closesest we've gotten to acutal japanese folklore with the turtles instead of orientalist-Hollywood-Frank Miller-vengence driven-B.S.- ninjas. :tlol:

[ctt4lfecw]

At least they're TRYING to show respect to Asian culture in this movie.

[Slade]

Got a good laugh and some new info out of this thread. :lol:

[mistajee33]

I'd love to contribute, but the only kappa I know are of the candy variety.


:lol:


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[Cryomancer]

Well if you wanna see a movie about a kappa,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-zDizZSfUE

[Powder]

I'm a sucker for weird Japanese flicks but even I couldn't make it through that one.

[Commenter 42]

From Wikipedia:

"Kappa are also known as ravishers of women. An 18th-century ukiyo-e image by Utamaro depicts kappa raping an ama diver underwater. In his Tōno Monogatari, Kunio Yanagita records a number of beliefs from the Tōno area about women being accosted and even impregnated by kappa.[20] Their offspring were said to be repulsive to behold, and were generally buried."

Teenage Mutant Rapist Kappas.

**** this movie. **** it in it's anal raping face.

This is not TMNT. This is dog ****. Twisting Japanese folklore like this is vomit inducing.

[Leo656]

"But... but it's just another take on the mythology! :lol:

[samxsteal]

At this point its just hilarious. Seeing how people react is like clock work same people same stuff same everything so funny.

[Leo656]

Cool beans, I been settin' my watch to you for a while now, too, broski. 8)

[Commenter 42]

At this point its just hilarious. Seeing how people react is like clock work same people same stuff same everything so funny.

And here you are again, picking another fight.
Glad you're on board with the turtles being part of a myth of ass munching rapist demons.

Stay classy.

"But... but it's just another take on the mythology! :lol:

They can't even get one mythology right, and they're adding others?
It's one thing to screw with a fictional character, but revisionist history (fictional or not) is a crime.

Can't stand when Hollywood does this sort of thing.

Just imagine if in Star Wars Episode 7, they proclaimed that Yoda was actually one of Santas elves, and infact , Santa Claus was originally a Jedi. Yep, that's how stupid this is.

[Leo656]

Huh huh... huh huh huh...

http://www.troll.me/images/beavis-and-butthead-lol/butt-munch.jpg

[samxsteal]

And here you are again, picking another fight.
Glad you're on board with the turtles being part of a myth of ass munching rapist demons.

Stay classy.

Not Picking a fight just observations.

But if you want to argue as you seem to want to do other wise you could have left my harmless comment go. Kappa are much more layered in myth and lore then Ass muching rapist, Just like any lore/myth isn't only whats on a short Wiki page, SMH, I doubt you even new the extent of a Kappa until Other poster mention "ass munching" and you felt the need to blow something out of proportion. Like you have done in the past

Kappa is just an excuse to loosely based a fake Japanese myth on turtles for the story they are trying to tell ALA 2k3 Tangu shredder Or 2k12s shredders helmet, IDW or plenty of other tmnt aspects, And they presented it Very well, with a unique story, and Shows that Japanese ties have an will be in the movie at great extent.

[Commenter 42]

Huh huh... huh huh huh...

http://www.troll.me/images/beavis-and-butthead-lol/butt-munch.jpg

Exactly, pretty sure Sam is the one on the right.

[Xiewin]

Was this forum always like this?

[samxsteal]

Was this forum always like this?

Yup Childish Comments and all SMH

Exactly, pretty sure Sam is the one on the right.

HEHEHE im a real adult.

Seriously dude? -_^

You get so up in arms over something TMNT HAS done and will likely do countless more times, for the sake of telling a story lol. Go be mad have fun with that.

"OMG turtles flip cars with their bare hands OMG. GRRRR"

[Leo656]

F*** You, you ain't been here long enough to even know. :lol: You weren't there. You have no idea.

No offense, but most'a you guys wouldn't have made it three months back in 2004 or so. People were AIM-stalking people and creating fake accounts just to fight. You kids have no idea. The whole place went down in flames for a while before rising like the Phoenix because people just needed it.

The people who have been here the longest are assholes because they've entirely run out of patience for bullsh*t and nonsense, and it's why so many newer people feel like they're being "hazed" or have to "earn" their "spot". That's not entirely true, but this place was like f*cking "Battle Royale" at one point, and people who can't take at least a little tough love aren't gonna last. It's that simple.

(Sigh) GK and his awesome homemade memes and Photoshop jobs. 7 or 8 people getting banned every single day. Krang giving glorious public word-spankings when necessary. War is never pretty, easy, or fun. Except that one time when it was.

[Alex]

TMNT 3? I like it.

THIS IS GREAT! ACTUAL TIES TO JAPANESE FOLKLORE! I'm liking this movie more and more!

http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/thumbs.png :tgrin:

[Xiewin]

F*** You, you ain't been here long enough to even know. :lol: You weren't there. You have no idea.

No offense, but most'a you guys wouldn't have made it three months back in 2004 or so. People were AIM-stalking people and creating fake accounts just to fight. You kids have no idea. The whole place went down in flames for a while before rising like the Phoenix because people just needed it.

The people who have been here the longest are assholes because they've entirely run out of patience for bullsh*t and nonsense, and it's why so many newer people feel like they're being "hazed" or have to "earn" their "spot". That's not entirely true, but this place was like f*cking "Battle Royale" at one point, and people who can't take at least a little tough love aren't gonna last. It's that simple.

Wow, this says alot about the TMNT fandom. :lol:

And what exactly were people fighting over?

[samxsteal]

Wow, this says alot about the TMNT fandom. :lol:

And what exactly were people fighting over?

The better question was What weren't they fighting over.

lol ANd IM pretty sure he was being partially Sarcastic lol

Leos Eccentric............ in a good way lol some times lol *fist bump leo*

[Leo656]

Absolutely zero of that was exaggerated in any way. Not one word.

Cartoons. Politics. Religion. George Bush. Iraq War. Gay Ninja Turtles. Jim Lawson. April being a drawing. 9/11 conspiracies. Faking the Moon Landing. Any and every f*cking thing. This place got so bad, they had to go all "Pat Garrett" and have Grunger Kittie become a Mod and reign in some of the chaos, and he was almost as bad an influence as *I* am. Before he cut his hair and sold out.

F*cking daily anarchy. It only sounds terrible. If you were quick of wit, or just a huge asshole to people, you got by. In some ways it was fun. I don't exactly miss it, but oh man, the laughs. Some people got so bent they'd "Quit" while making long, dramatic, "emo" speeches, before coming back an hour later because they just couldn't resist reading the comments. People got so personal with their arguments. It wasn't exactly funny, but oh man, this pace got dark sometimes. But it definitely tempered a lot of the people who stuck around.

I was also drunk a lot more back then, which explains a ton. Like, every day.

[Candy Kappa]

From Wikipedia:

"Kappa are also known as ravishers of women. An 18th-century ukiyo-e image by Utamaro depicts kappa raping an ama diver underwater. In his Tōno Monogatari, Kunio Yanagita records a number of beliefs from the Tōno area about women being accosted and even impregnated by kappa.[20] Their offspring were said to be repulsive to behold, and were generally buried."

Teenage Mutant Rapist Kappas.

**** this movie. **** it in it's anal raping face.

This is not TMNT. This is dog ****. Twisting Japanese folklore like this is vomit inducing.

Well, not all Kappa are bad, they are notorious tricksters, which can range from farting loudly in public to peek under women's kimono and drowning people.

But their biggest feature is that they are excellent swimmers, and even today certain rivers have warning signs that kappa is living there. Also the saying "even the best makes mistakes" there is one regarding the Kappa: "even a kappa can drown"

Their also very honorable creature, so a trick to fend off a vicious kappa is to bow, cause they have to bow even lower then you spilling out the water in the bowl they have on their head, making them powerless. It's never wise to take a kappa head on as they are very strong despite being cild sized and love Sumo fighting.

But, the kappa also loves human flesh, particularly children. And they eat your soul (a glowing orb which name escapes me) through your anus. A tradition in feudal Japan was to write your newborn child's name on a cucumber and throw it in the river to the kappa, as a pact to not eat the child. The Kappa loves cucumber more then human flesh.

[Commenter 42]

Yup Childish Comments and all SMH



HEHEHE im a real adult.

Seriously dude? -_^

You get so up in arms over something TMNT HAS done and will likely do countless more times, for the sake of telling a story lol. Go be mad have fun with that.

"OMG turtles flip cars with their bare hands OMG. GRRRR"

So, you're jealous that I was invited to a screening of test footage, and you were not? Is that it?

How does that make you feel? Are you a sad little puppy?
No, of course not, you're "a real adult" that has difficulty spelling real words.

[Leo656]

Izzat why I always see chicks scoping out cucumbers at the supermarket and going home with the extra-large ones? Because I swear, I had a completely different idea where that whole scene was going... and I'm not sure if the above scenario is more or less weird than that...

[Commenter 42]

Well, not all Kappa are bad, they are notorious tricksters, which can range from farting loudly in public to peek under women's kimono and drowning people.

But their biggest feature is that they are excellent swimmers, and even today certain rivers have warning signs that kappa is living there. Also the saying "even the best makes mistakes" there is one regarding the Kappa: "even a kappa can drown"

Their also very honorable creature, so a trick to fend off a vicious kappa is to bow, cause they have to bow even lower then you spilling out the water in the bowl they have on their head, making them powerless. It's never wise to take a kappa head on as they are very strong despite being cild sized and love Sumo fighting.

But, the kappa also loves human flesh, particularly children. And they eat your soul (a glowing orb which name escapes me) through your anus. A tradition in feudal Japan was to write your newborn child's name on a cucumber and throw it in the river to the kappa, as a pact to not eat the child. The Kappa loves cucumber more then human flesh.

Yes, I cherry picked the article, as others had covered much of the above. The thread hadn't mentioned the rape of women, so I brought it up.

[Candy Kappa]

... It doesn't say the Kappa don't like sloppy seconds cucumbers, could be both...

[Commenter 42]

... It doesn't say the Kappa don't like sloppy seconds cucumbers, could be both...

I think it's implied...

[Leo656]

... It doesn't say the Kappa don't like sloppy seconds cucumbers, could be both...

http://31.media.tumblr.com/73d221d258cc4c133251c4a03195ba23/tumblr_n8irv2LVUD1qarujbo1_400.gif

[samxsteal]

So, you're jealous that I was invited to a screening of test footage, and you were not? Is that it?

How does that make you feel? Are you a sad little puppy?
No, of course not, you're "a real adult" that has difficulty spelling real words.

I could care less Dude and it funny you think that of all things would upset me lol Like im really laughing so hard right now my wife looking at me like WTF lol.

Yup Keep Acting like a high school Cyber bully make you feel like a real Big shot doesn't it lol.

I get it i cant spell OMG i should feel really terrible about my self lol
8Gv0H-vPoDc

Not my job to be a perfect Linguist

ANd you being pretentious isn't going to make me change anything Especially with all your attitude

[Leo656]

The last time I saw so many misplaced capital letters was on nWo T-shirts in 1997. You're fun. :lol:

Your petty jabber-jawing is blocking the view of that amaaaazing Nash gif, by the way. Lookit that faaaaace!

[Commenter 42]

Not my job to be a perfect Linguist


Too many jokes...so I'll just write the set up:

So, what is your job then?

You go ahead with the punch line.

[samxsteal]

The last time I saw so many misplaced capital letters was on nWo T-shirts in 1997. You're fun. :lol:

Your petty jabber-jawing is blocking the view of that amaaaazing Nash gif, by the way. Lookit that faaaaace!No worries i got you
http://31.media.tumblr.com/73d221d258cc4c133251c4a03195ba23/tumblr_n8irv2LVUD1qarujbo1_400.gif

Too many jokes...so I'll just write the set up:

So, what is your job then?

You go ahead with the punch line.
IM a professional Cook At a local restaurant Thats pretty amazing, Check Us out if your in town.

As well as sporting a second Job cuz working Hard is something i strive for, This Second Job is at an Acme market I work in the deli

I went to Culinary School, I have a agree in Culinary arts I rock Cooking, and im a Pro at the deli.

IM a Husband

Im a Musician

Im Turning 26

Just bought a house Which we are currently working on remolding

Anything Else?

You can Talk Crap all you want Behind a Computer Screen where you feel safe. Well Im happy my wifes happy, my friends are happy, and i help in making them happy That's all the maters to me so Cheers

Yup Jokes on me :trolleye:
'
lol

[Leo656]

Oh, mercy. You guys.

http://media.giphy.com/media/MkYiQ6awiimeQ/giphy.gif

8-Bit Hulk Hogan can't stop laughing at how silly you all are.

[Candy Kappa]

Jeez... That's gotta be the scariest Hulk Hogan ever.

[samxsteal]

Oh, mercy. You guys.

http://media.giphy.com/media/MkYiQ6awiimeQ/giphy.gif

8-Bit Hulk Hogan can't stop laughing at how silly you all are.

there Isn't a thing some random Punk online can say that will upset me. lol He can keep trying but really just gives me more to laugh at lol.

And the gif is kind of terrifying lol Whats it from??

And do you just search for this stuff on the fly or do you have them saved

[Leo656]

Jeez... That's gotta be the scariest Hulk Hogan ever.

The scariest Hulk Hogan ever is the one who's three seconds away from dropping the big leg on you, Brotherrrrrrrr!

That's from one of the WWF Arcade games, Superstars I *think*.

[Commenter 42]

No worries i got you
http://31.media.tumblr.com/73d221d258cc4c133251c4a03195ba23/tumblr_n8irv2LVUD1qarujbo1_400.gif


IM a professional Cook At a local restaurant Thats pretty amazing, Check Us out if your in town.

As well as sporting a second Job cuz working Hard is something i strive for, This Second Job is at an Acme market I work in the deli

I went to Culinary School, I have a agree in Culinary arts I rock Cooking, and im a Pro at the deli.

IM a Husband

Im a Musician

Im Turning 26

Just bought a house Which we are currently working on remolding

Anything Else?

You can Talk Crap all you want Behind a Computer Screen where you feel safe. Well Im happy my wifes happy, my friends are happy, and i help in making them happy That's all the maters to me so Cheers

Yup Jokes on me :trolleye:
'
lol

Are you still laughing? Thought not.
Quit picking fights with me. Brush up on your English, prep some fries, whatever; just go away.

[Leo656]

Is it really his English, though? Isn't it more like syntax? Conjugation? Something else kinda like that that I was supposed to be learning about in 4th grade English while I was doodling bewbs on my notebook?

"Prep some fries"... :lol: Goodness lawd.

[Commenter 42]

Is it really his English, though? Isn't it more like syntax? Conjugation? Something else kinda like that that I was supposed to be learning about in 4th grade English while I was doodling bewbs on my notebook?

"Prep some fries"... :lol: Goodness lawd.

The way he types, it's hard to know.
All I know, is that he's proud of rocking the Deli, or, something?

He has a degree in the culinary arts, and he's not a linguist.
I on the other hand...I'm still thinking about candy kappas sloppy cucumbers?

This thread is so 4am.

[Leo656]

More like 4:20, aaaaaaaaamIrite?

Would explain a lot.

[Commenter 42]

More like 4:20, aaaaaaaaamIrite?

Would explain a lot.

Puff, puff, passssss
Lol...

[samxsteal]

Are you still laughing? Thought not.
Quit picking fights with me. Brush up on your English, prep some fries, whatever; just go away.lol Oh burn you got me ouch Just remember any time you go out to eat regardless of where there are people making you food and All of them Hate pretentious Ass holes Good on you lol. You know what though in the End people always Gotta eat I cook Im always going to have a job, cant say the same about many other professions lol, And i enjoy my job


"Prep some fries"... :lol: Goodness lawd. Seriously Talking like im in some low class McD's Which was my first Job. But i bettered myself And now Im working at a Fantastic Restaurant, Thats right on the water in a beach town IN summer. Yup my life sure Sucks lol. But Heck if anyone wants some Real Food i can handle it.

[Commenter 42]

lol Oh burn you got me ouch Just remember any time you go out to eat regardless of where there are people making you food and All of them Hate pretentious Ass holes Good on you lol. You know what though in the End people always Gotta eat I cook Im always going to have a job, cant say the same about many other professions lol, And i enjoy my job

Seriously Talking like im in some low class McD's Which was my first Job. But i bettered myself And now Im working at a Fantastic Restaurant, Thats right on the water in a beach town IN summer. Yup my life sure Sucks lol. But Heck if anyone wants some Real Food i can handle it.

Is that the best you've got?
Dude, I'm done here. Don't you have some dishes to do?

See this thing? Right here in red ------> ,
Learn to use it.

[samxsteal]

Is that the best you've got?
Dude, I'm done here. Don't you have some dishes to do?

hahahaha lol Yup i do those to After a long shift it helps to wind down IDK something about it is relaxing

still funny your trying to hurt me Oh man it really hurt oh no please stop with you hurtful word lol Seriously dude its funny and you look a like a prick while doing it lol. Yup cuz anyone who doesn't do what you do is **** lol

Oh im just some sad lowly Kitchen slave ooh no lol.
next call me a burger punk, tell me to clean the friers. oh oh Keep going its funny

[Candy Kappa]

This just reminds me that I have little to no food in my home at the moment.

[Leo656]

I too enjoy doing dishes. Fancy that.

[samxsteal]

I too enjoy doing dishes. Fancy that.

Not at home thought IDK why but At the restaurant its kind of Zen at home Kinda BLAH which is why my new house is getting a dish washer before we move in lol

[Commenter 42]

Oh im just some sad lowly Kitchen slave ooh no lol.
next call me a burger punk, tell me to clean the friers. oh oh Keep going its funny

You should go back and re-read the thread. You're jumping all over me, and I keep asking you to stop.

Sam, this is really hard to say, but, I just don't like you in that way, okay?

Oh, wait, I should have used a run-on sentence...
wiTh mispeLinds and stuff lol ha oh rit ok me bye no talking you no more sAM. ;):-?:cry:

Got it? Stop. Thanks k bye.

[Leo656]

Hate those things, They leave spots and streaks and bits of syrup. Gotta get in that sh*t with a little elbow grease.

[samxsteal]

You should go back and re-read the thread. You're jumping all over me, and I keep asking you to stop.

Sam, this is really hard to say, but, I just don't like you in that way, okay?

Oh, wait, I should have used a run-on sentence...
wiTh mispeLinds and stuff lol ha oh rit ok me bye no talking you no more sAM. ;):-?:cry:

Got it? Stop. Thanks k bye. lol Don't flatter yourself lol Your the One trying to Belittle Me I'll Stop Cuz I've had my Fun seeing you try to push my buttons lol. I'm sorry it didn't work, now you can go pick on little kid and belittle others Im finished

Hate those things, They leave spots and streaks and bits of syrup. Gotta get in that sh*t with a little elbow grease.
Depends on Detergent, and the dishwasher. lol Hopefully we can find one that not two Expensive

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Never in all my life...I swear, people bicker over the dumbest sh*t ever

[samxsteal]

Never in all my life...I swear, people bicker over the dumbest sh*t ever

Yeah i would like to apologize to everyone else I shouldn't have kept playing With the bully But i have to get to sleep lol its 5 i wanna do some stuff on my Day off. Been working hard this is my first full day of in months woot woot

Really i am sorry

[pennydreadful]

Never in all my life...I swear, people bicker over the dumbest sh*t ever

I... yeah. I can't believe I just wasted 10 minutes reading through this crap. Y'all need to rewatch the Karate Kid movies again, If karate used defend honor, defend life, karate mean something. If karate used defend plastic metal trophy, karate no mean nothing. Same thing for internet slapfights.

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/epic-cat-fight-on-a-ladder.gif

[Lou 500]

Look, more evidence of evil kappa Mikey:

http://i.imgur.com/vJ74UQa.png

"Get in mah belly!"

http://31.media.tumblr.com/25a6c9363211806a07d17a206b608f4b/tumblr_mrbvtyl6sh1rkmkdxo1_400.gif

Off topic but what is that GIF from? It looks like it belongs to the 2003 series but the style's slightly different. I came across another one ages ago of with Raph in it and it was in the same style.

[Candy Kappa]

Off topic but what is that GIF from? It looks like it belongs to the 2003 series but the style's slightly different. I came across another one ages ago of with Raph in it and it was in the same style.

4Kids also had mini series

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

I... yeah. I can't believe I just wasted 10 minutes reading through this crap. Y'all need to rewatch the Karate Kid movies again, If karate used defend honor, defend life, karate mean something. If karate used defend plastic metal trophy, karate no mean nothing. Same thing for internet slapfights.

http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/epic-cat-fight-on-a-ladder.gif

Karate no mean nothing when two cats get into slap fight...

[Raptor86]

Some Kappa's picture that are similare to the ones we see in the video.

http://www.paranormalocean.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/kappa_111.jpg
http://hanamiblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/kappa.jpg
http://www.qiquwu.com/uploads/allimg/c110322/1300M536022140-4WN.jpg
I can really see why the TMNT could be mistaken for a Kappa.
I do not understand why they should have been trained to Ninjutsu to defeat evil Yokai, though.

[unlundun]

its just a fun story, and an interesting use of that particular mythology.

[Donnieangelo]

Huh huh... huh huh huh...

http://www.troll.me/images/beavis-and-butthead-lol/butt-munch.jpg
:lol:

http://31.media.tumblr.com/b63401026f2e9c1a8c5f637f20212d7c/tumblr_mqgw08VcBA1s7ys4fo1_400.gif

Some Kappa's picture that are similare to the ones we see in the video.

http://www.paranormalocean.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/kappa_111.jpg
http://hanamiblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/kappa.jpg
http://www.qiquwu.com/uploads/allimg/c110322/1300M536022140-4WN.jpg
I can really see why the TMNT could be mistaken for a Kappa.
I do not understand why they should have been trained to Ninjutsu to defeat evil Yokai, though.
So, they have hair and pointy beaks.... interesting!

[Candy Kappa]

So, they have hair and pointy beaks.... interesting!

The Kappa comes in many variations, some with the face of a monkey, others have beaks, some walk on two legs some on all four, I think even there is one without a turtle shell. and there is hairy kappa, like a wookie variant, which have their own name but I can't recall it.

[Donnieangelo]

The Kappa comes in many variations, some with the face of a monkey, others have beaks, some walk on two legs some on all four, I think even there is one without a turtle shell. and there is hairy kappa, like a wookie variant, which have their own name but I can't recall it.
I wonder what the hairy one looks like...

[Chris_a_Bunga]

Man, after looking up stories behind Kappa Yokai legends adding this to the movie kinda seems cool and could easily fit into this world they are trying to make. The art in the video is beautiful too. They might not even mention it in the film, but I like it and can totally see it being this Eric Sachs characters obsession and a way for the turtles to be mutated (though I'd rather it have been a chance accident, but at this point it is what it is!)

At this point though, I don't really want to spoil any more for myself in the next 2 weeks, good or bad, I want some of this movie to be fresh for the first time.

[Shark_Blade]

Looks great, love it! :tlove:

[Candy Kappa]

I wonder what the hairy one looks like...

probably like a Ewok with a beak and a turtle shell :lol:

[Donnieangelo]

probably like a Ewok with a beak and a turtle shell :lol:
Maybe with lot's of claws!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/094ab5e17f15c2cd6acd31237054e53f/tumblr_mrr7wbMPs71s93opxo1_500.gif

[Candy Kappa]

http://t6.rbxcdn.com/ade014fbb92da96f5dfcc50c038aee3e

[Donnieangelo]

http://t6.rbxcdn.com/ade014fbb92da96f5dfcc50c038aee3e
Ahhhhhhhhhhh! :o

http://25.media.tumblr.com/987739222b4e1284f4ed8d71c611b177/tumblr_mwyu7og3Sf1shm9rjo1_500.gif

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK the already brought up point that NOT ALL KAPPA ARE EVIL and they don't all act that way?!? Japanese pop culture and old legends have portayed them in a positive light, too. You all need to get theis western idea out of your heads that anything with the label 'demon' is evil. There are good and bad kitsune, there are good and bad oni, there are good and bad 'snow maidens', there are good and bad tanooki, and there are good and bad Kappa.

[Donnieangelo]

WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK the already brought up point that NOT ALL KAPPA ARE EVIL and they don't all act that way?!? Japanese pop culture and old legends have portayed them in a positive light, too. You all need to get theis western idea out of your heads that anything with the label 'demon' is evil. There are good and bad kitsune, there are good and bad oni, there are good and bad 'snow maidens', there are good and bad tanooki, and there are good and bad Kappa.
Mhmm. Even Splinter says it in the third movie.

Okay, but not exactly everything...

[samxsteal]

WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK the already brought up point that NOT ALL KAPPA ARE EVIL and they don't all act that way?!? Japanese pop culture and old legends have portayed them in a positive light, too. You all need to get theis western idea out of your heads that anything with the label 'demon' is evil. There are good and bad kitsune, there are good and bad oni, there are good and bad 'snow maidens', there are good and bad tanooki, and there are good and bad Kappa.

Because if they did they couldn't freak out, i Kid ,I kid.

But i totally agree It all about perspective and this Screams TMNT to me Look at 2k3, TMNT III, IDW Nick They all "make" there own Japanese mythos. IN vain of the OG comic taking Comic and playing on them to create there own comic, they take Japanese Lore and Create there own suited for there own story.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK the already brought up point that NOT ALL KAPPA ARE EVIL and they don't all act that way?!? Japanese pop culture and old legends have portayed them in a positive light, too. You all need to get theis western idea out of your heads that anything with the label 'demon' is evil. There are good and bad kitsune, there are good and bad oni, there are good and bad 'snow maidens', there are good and bad tanooki, and there are good and bad Kappa.

Because some people believe what they think is right and no matter what you say you will always be wrong

[Sumac]

Not my job to be a perfect Linguist
It's not about being perfect linguist. It's about respect to the people who read your posts. If you type like ****, then it means you do not respect your readers. Plain and simple.

My English is far from perfect, but at least I am trying to become better with it and respect some of the basic rules. Like Typing WithouT Capitalizing Random Words and using commas and dots to spearate sentences in different parts which make it easier to understand them

Once again, it's not about being specialist in the language, it's about simple respect to the readers, which does not require much on your part. If you choose to not follow such basics - it's quite telling about you and your personality.

[Commenter 42]

It's not about being perfect linguist. It's about respect to the people who read your posts. If you type like ****, then it means you do not respect your readers. Plain and simple.

My English is far from perfect, but at least I am trying to become better with it and respect some of the basic rules. Like Typing WithouT Capitalizing Random Words and using commas and dots to spearate sentences in different parts which make it easier to understand them

Once again, it's not about being specialist in the language, it's about simple respect to the readers, which does not require much on your part. If you choose to not follow such basics - it's quite telling about you and your personality.

Cheers!

He didn't get the point when I said it, maybe he'll listen to you? It's irritating as all Hell.


Because some people believe what they think is right and no matter what you say you will always be wrong

Honestly, your sig is a perfect example of how I feel about this movie.

On the left - Hey that looks cool!
On the right - WTF?

And to your point, I'm all for having an interesting discussion; unfortunately Sam isn't capable of having one, as proven last night.

I really don't think adding Kappa to the back story is a positive. I wasn't a fan of the reincarnation aspect of IDW, and I don't like this "everything happens for a reason" storyline. I don't think it makes the turtles "more japanese" or "ties it to Japan" or whatever the hell people are saying. If they had Wolverine eat a stack of pancakes with maple syrup, is he suddenly "tied to Canada" more than he was?

The idea is weak sauce.

[Sumac]

He didn't get the point when I said it, maybe he'll listen to you?
From what I have seen of him, unlikely.
But worth trying, I guess.

[Xav]

They might not even mention it in the film, but I like it and can totally see it being this Eric Sachs characters obsession and a way for the turtles to be mutated (though I'd rather it have been a chance accident, but at this point it is what it is!)Now I get the whole trying to create heroes line. Sacks was trying to create Kappa!

[graphic_content]

If they had Wolverine eat a stack of pancakes with maple syrup, is he suddenly "tied to Canada" more than he was?

The idea is weak sauce.

I agreed with most of the second half of your statement, especially bc I hated the ties they made to Japanese mythos in TMNT III. Somehow it made the turtles existence seem less special to me by adding 'those that came before them' type thing.

BUT, your wolverine example doesn't work bc, the turtles aren't eating ramen claiming to have Japanese roots just because. The mythos grounds their existence in the roots of Japanese culture. To me it's very different than just trying to tack it on.

[Commenter 42]

I agreed with most of the second half of your statement, especially bc I hated the ties they made to Japanese mythos in TMNT III. Somehow it made the turtles existence seem less special to me by adding 'those that came before them' type thing.

BUT, your wolverine example doesn't work bc, the turtles aren't eating ramen claiming to have Japanese roots just because. The mythos grounds their existence in the roots of Japanese culture. To me it's very different than just trying to tack it on.

Good point, I was trying to think of a better analogy. I failed, lol.
In any-case, that's how I see it. To me it feels like a step away from the turtles mutation being a "special" event, to, "it's happened before". Furthermore, its a re-hash of blue door, meaning it's opening up the possibility of more mutant turtles.

[graphic_content]

Good point, I was trying to think of a better analogy. I failed, lol.
In any-case, that's how I see it. To me it feels like a step away from the turtles mutation being a "special" event, to, "it's happened before". Furthermore, its a re-hash of blue door.

Funny enough, this whole destiny vs accident argument reminds me of TMNT II SOTO, when Donnie was complaining on the rooftop to everyone that there had to be more to their existence, and it was clear that he was distraught at the thought of being just an accident.

[Commenter 42]

BUT, that is a very natural and important thought to have as a sentient individual.
Doesn't mean you'll like the answer.

Most heros have a "destiny". It's the Joseph Campbell myth over and over ad nauseum. Everything has a purpose, everyone has a place, and the hero will triumph, even though he/she doesn't believe it's possible.

I prefer the alternate. **** happens. I hate the "I'm the only one who can stop this!"
That's both juvenile, and solipsistic. How about, "somebody do something" and the person who DOES, proves to be the hero.

I prefer this method of storytelling, as it challenges the writer to come up with a good reason for the protagonist to be involved, or to take action.
Destiny is lazy, and from what I've read, not very "Mirage", well, not Very Peter Laird.

Laird always kept things grey. No one was every really all good, or all evil..every character was a shade of grey, and for my money, that's a far more compelling idea.

[Sighphi]

WHY DOES EVERYONE OVERLOOK the already brought up point that NOT ALL KAPPA ARE EVIL and they don't all act that way?!? Japanese pop culture and old legends have portayed them in a positive light, too. You all need to get theis western idea out of your heads that anything with the label 'demon' is evil. There are good and bad kitsune, there are good and bad oni, there are good and bad 'snow maidens', there are good and bad tanooki, and there are good and bad Kappa.

They are all evil.
But if you beat them in a sumo match or trick them into spilling their head water they will help you.


Anyway..... so the Super Hero formula is actually Shredder having people be possessed by demons? And he tried to summon the Kappa in this generation to trap them so they wont stop his plans but they escaped after the transfer was made?

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Cheers!

He didn't get the point when I said it, maybe he'll listen to you? It's irritating as all Hell.




Honestly, your sig is a perfect example of how I feel about this movie.

On the left - Hey that looks cool!
On the right - WTF?

And to your point, I'm all for having an interesting discussion; unfortunately Sam isn't capable of having one, as proven last night.

I really don't think adding Kappa to the back story is a positive. I wasn't a fan of the reincarnation aspect of IDW, and I don't like this "everything happens for a reason" storyline. I don't think it makes the turtles "more japanese" or "ties it to Japan" or whatever the hell people are saying. If they had Wolverine eat a stack of pancakes with maple syrup, is he suddenly "tied to Canada" more than he was?

The idea is weak sauce.

I don't think adding the Kappa to the back story is a negative or a positive...it's just whatver. As Splinter said in TMNT3, some Kappa were good, but some were very evil. I'm interested to see how it all plays out. And I'm a fan of the IDW reincarnation story. If they bring even a little of that in I'll be happy

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

They are all evil.
But if you beat them in a sumo match or trick them into spilling their head water they will help you.


Anyway..... so the Super Hero formula is actually Shredder having people be possessed by demons? And he tried to summon the Kappa in this generation to trap them so they wont stop his plans but they escaped after the transfer was made?

No....no they are not. Some are good, some are bad:

Behavior [edit]
Kappa are usually seen as mischievous troublemakers or trickster figures. Their pranks range from the relatively innocent, such as loudly passing gas or looking up women's kimonos, to the malevolent, such as drowning people and animals, kidnapping children, and raping women.[14]

Kappa are not entirely antagonistic to humankind, however. They are curious of human civilization, and they can understand and speak Japanese. They may even befriend human beings in exchange for gifts and offerings such as nasu (茄子, "Japanese eggplant"), soba (そば or 蕎麦, “buckwheat noodles”) nattō (なっとう or 納豆, "fermented soybeans"), or kabocha (カボチャ, 南瓜, “winter squash”), but especially cucumbers, the only food kappa are known to enjoy more than human children.

Once befriended, kappa have been known to perform any number of tasks for human beings, such as helping farmers irrigate their land. Sometimes, they will bring the occasional gift of fresh fish, which is regarded as a mark of good fortune for the family that receives it.[3] They are also highly knowledgeable of medicine, and legend states that they taught the art of bone setting to humankind.[14][22][23] Due to these benevolent aspects, some shrines are dedicated to the worship of particularly helpful kappa.[24] There were also festivals meant to placate the kappa in hopes of receiving a good harvest, some of which still take place today. These festivals generally took place during the two equinoxes of the year when the kappa traveled from the rivers to the mountains and vice versa.[3] Kappa may also be tricked into helping people. Their deep sense of decorum will not allow them to break an oath, for example; so if a human being can dupe a kappa into promising to help him, the kappa has no choice but to follow through.


EDIT: I just found this. Not sure if you folks have seen it:

http://www.legendoftheyokai.com/
Just posting a few:
http://i.imgur.com/96BtJ8y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wfRE2m2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tIHt4Ta.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GfxHWVa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OueR3LX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IQUuvIP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vVZ1sA1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mSzhYJX.jpg

[Sighphi]

No....no they are not. Some are good, some are bad:

Behavior [edit]
Kappa are usually seen as mischievous troublemakers or trickster figures. Their pranks range from the relatively innocent, such as loudly passing gas or looking up women's kimonos, to the malevolent, such as drowning people and animals, kidnapping children, and raping women.[14]

Kappa are not entirely antagonistic to humankind, however. They are curious of human civilization, and they can understand and speak Japanese. They may even befriend human beings in exchange for gifts and offerings such as nasu (茄子, "Japanese eggplant"), soba (そば or 蕎麦, “buckwheat noodles”) nattō (なっとう or 納豆, "fermented soybeans"), or kabocha (カボチャ, 南瓜, “winter squash”), but especially cucumbers, the only food kappa are known to enjoy more than human children.

Once befriended, kappa have been known to perform any number of tasks for human beings, such as helping farmers irrigate their land. Sometimes, they will bring the occasional gift of fresh fish, which is regarded as a mark of good fortune for the family that receives it.[3] They are also highly knowledgeable of medicine, and legend states that they taught the art of bone setting to humankind.[14][22][23] Due to these benevolent aspects, some shrines are dedicated to the worship of particularly helpful kappa.[24] There were also festivals meant to placate the kappa in hopes of receiving a good harvest, some of which still take place today. These festivals generally took place during the two equinoxes of the year when the kappa traveled from the rivers to the mountains and vice versa.[3] Kappa may also be tricked into helping people. Their deep sense of decorum will not allow them to break an oath, for example; so if a human being can dupe a kappa into promising to help him, the kappa has no choice but to follow through.



Like i said, once you beat them at something they will help you.
But you have to beat them at something.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Like i said, once you beat them at something they will help you.
But you have to beat them at something.

I wonder if a farting contest counts??

[graphic_content]

I wonder if a farting contest counts??

or pie eating?

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

or pie eating?

I could probably do pretty good at that too....I love me some pie

[IndigoErth]

Staring contest... with serious Leo.

Actually that might be difficult. Could stare forever, but hope cracking a smile doesn't end the game.

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10557388_10203510069105029_3684556210838172909_n.j pg

[graphic_content]

I could probably do pretty good at that too....I love me some pie

you and me both bro.

Does anyone think they are gonna show an extended version of this clip during the movie...perhaps while Splinter is explaining the legend to the young turtles?

A break in the live action portion, cut away to animation type thing, like they've done in KILL BILL, and HARRY POTTER?

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

you and me both bro.

Does anyone think they are gonna show an extended version of this clip during the movie...perhaps while Splinter is explaining the legend to the young turtles?

A break in the live action portion, cut away to animation type thing, like they've done in KILL BILL, and HARRY POTTER?

It's possible, but I highly doubt it

[slingtheory]

The kappa thing is an interesting idea but I'm not really sure what to make of it. I just can't see where it fits. I suppose it could just be a story splinter made up to inspire the turtles in their future battles with shredder but It would be a pretty big red herring if that's the case. Not to mention it could be seen as a superficial way to create a tie to japan and I don't see that going over well at all. If it does have anything to do with the story then it brings up so many questions. Liebsman talked about the old origin being complicated but I don't see any way you connect the tmnt to supernatural creatures of japanese folklore simply.

[MajorViolence]

The kappa thing is an interesting idea but I'm not really sure what to make of it. I just can't see where it fits. I suppose it could just be a story splinter made up to inspire the turtles in their future battles with shredder but It would be a pretty big red herring if that's the case. Not to mention it could be seen as a superficial way to create a tie to japan and I don't see that going over well at all. If it does have anything to do with the story then it brings up so many questions. Liebsman talked about the old origin being complicated but I don't see any way you connect the tmnt to supernatural creatures of japanese folklore simply.

Agreed. I can see it working alright as a story Splinter made up for his sons, but the scroll art makes me think it's meant to connect to the scroll in the background of the "that's what we were trying to do, create heroes" scene from the first trailer, which would suggest that the ooze experiments were actually intended to create modern Kappa. If that's the case, it's going to take such an awkward messing around with both the Kappa mythos and TMNT origin in order to make it work, it's going to be a really weird and stupid departure. I'm going to be extremely unhappy if that turns out to be the case.

[Sighphi]

I wonder if a farting contest counts??

I wouldn't suggest a farting contest cause they probably just use that as a chance to take your butt energy.

[Candy Kappa]

I wouldn't suggest a farting contest cause they probably just used that as a chance to take your butt energy.

Kappa is fueled by the power of The Twerk. :lol:

[jase]

That's pretty interesting.

[HotNunchuckFury]

I'm really liking all the links to Japan this movie has. It might not be enough for some people, but even at this point it's more than I had dared to hope for. This animation is great and I hope it does appear in the film.


Does anyone think they are gonna show an extended version of this clip during the movie...perhaps while Splinter is explaining the legend to the young turtles?

A break in the live action portion, cut away to animation type thing, like they've done in KILL BILL, and HARRY POTTER?

Exactly what I was thinking. I really liked the animated clips in both those films. If it is in I doubt it'll be any longer than what we've already seen, but you never know. Hope it's there though.

[Luckyday]

...and in the end everyone are reincarnations!! :o

Or could it be that Turtles instead being part of the alien race, now part of the Kappa race (whatever it is)?

It's stupid anyway...:tcry:

What kappa as a race that descend from mutant turtles but had change over thousands of year of evolution?