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TigerClaw
07-21-2014, 02:44 PM
a Track off the TMNT movie soundtrack is set to be released on July 22, Titled Shell Shocked, By Juicy J, Wiz Khalifa, Ty Dolla $ign ft. Kill The Noise & Madsonik

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GildedLily
07-21-2014, 02:45 PM
Wow Tigerclaw, you're quick on finding all these new goodies, aren't you? I haven't listened to the track yet. Just thought I'd comment on how…on point you are today finding all this stuff before everyone else.

TigerClaw
07-21-2014, 02:46 PM
Wow Tigerclaw, you're quick on finding all these new goodies, aren't you? I haven't listened to the track yet. Just thought I'd comment on how…on point you are today finding all this stuff before everyone else.
Its heard in one of the TV Spots. And I saw it posted on the #TMNTMovie Hashtag on Twitter.

Metropoliskid41
07-21-2014, 02:46 PM
Haha wow, not really my taste, but I can see it being popular with the high school whipper snappers. Its certainly no T-U-R-T-L-E Power or Ninja Rap.:tlol:

Xiewin
07-21-2014, 02:48 PM
I hope this plays in the movie credits, because I absolutely hate rap music. This is the problem I had with the 2007 movie.

Le Glorieux Tortue
07-21-2014, 02:49 PM
Not at all my type of music but I like it for what it is . thank you for sharing !

I hope this plays in the movie credits, because I absolutely hate rap music. This is the problem I had with the 2007 movie.

how can you just hate an entire genre of music ? I guarantee there is something in there you would like , try not to close your mind to things

The Stryker
07-21-2014, 02:50 PM
I like it!

Getting that in here before the "Hippity Hop is the worst. Wheres my RAWK N ROLL." arguments.

GildedLily
07-21-2014, 02:51 PM
I liked it.

But yeah, I should be looking at Tumblr for things too, I suppose :p

graphic_content
07-21-2014, 02:58 PM
Wow Tigerclaw, you're quick on finding all these new goodies, aren't you? I haven't listened to the track yet. Just thought I'd comment on how…on point you are today finding all this stuff before everyone else.

seriously, kudos.

the lyrics are really cheesy tho - "I got your back like a turtle shell" really?! lol

although i did like "all this green in my pocket, you can call it turtle power" nice. :D

Donnieangelo
07-21-2014, 03:02 PM
Haha wow, not really my taste, but I can see it being popular with the high school whipper snappers. Its certainly no T-U-R-T-L-E Power or Ninja Rap.:tlol:
Nothing can ever top those songs.

TigerClaw
07-21-2014, 03:02 PM
you guys really should follow the #TMNTMovie Hastag on twitter, Sometimes you can spot things. :)

Anyways, I'm not really into Rap music, Not the Genre I follow, I'm more into EDM be it, Trance, House or Techno.

IndigoErth
07-21-2014, 03:07 PM
Goodness... as good of a nose for this stuff as the animated Tiger Claw has for sniffing out Turtles!

That said... Well, I hope the music collectively has a large variety. I like those parts that... forget what those segments are called, the parts that repeat... I kinda like those bits, though not typically my kind of music as a whole.

Cure
07-21-2014, 03:08 PM
I like those parts that... forget what those segments are called, the parts that repeat...

The chorus?

IndigoErth
07-21-2014, 03:09 PM
The chorus?
Is it still called that for rap/hip hop? Wasn't sure. lol

xChri5x
07-21-2014, 03:09 PM
Another piece titled Shell Shocked? ...and it's a rap song too? :S

MrTMNT2012
07-21-2014, 03:10 PM
a Track off the TMNT movie soundtrack is set to be released on July 22, Titled Shell Shocked, By Juicy J, Wiz Khalifa, Ty Dolla $ign ft. Kill The Noise & Madsonik

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Guessing this will be the credits song.

Loved it! :tgrin:

TigerClaw
07-21-2014, 03:12 PM
Guessing this will be the credits song.

Loved it! :tgrin:
I bet it is.

Candy Kappa
07-21-2014, 03:13 PM
Not bad at all.

Vicky82
07-21-2014, 03:16 PM
I'm not a big fan of rap but I loved that track.

graphic_content
07-21-2014, 03:18 PM
Is it still called that for rap/hip hop? Wasn't sure. lol

I believe they also refer to it as the 'hook' (music industry slang).

Not bad at all.

i think we heard two different songs, if not, I respectfully disagree :lol: but then again, the original rap song paired with the 90s films was just as cheesy as this, but personally I thought this song was lyrically weak. put someone like Common or Mos Def, and I'd proudly listen to this in my car WITH the windows down.

MrTMNT2012
07-21-2014, 03:19 PM
I liked the 'ShellShock' Track from TMNT 2007 as well but I think this was better!

unlundun
07-21-2014, 03:22 PM
god awful lyrics..missed opportunity for a decent TURTLE POWER remix.

any rap song that has to use the overused money / rolex/ cars bullsh1t really needs to learn some new material.

Lou 500
07-21-2014, 03:23 PM
Not a fan of hip-hop at all but I can see why they went for this since it's in the spirit of NYC. At least there's no mention of booty or lamborgi- nevermind.

RedRocBoy
07-21-2014, 03:24 PM
TMNT TURN UP!!!! WOW JUICY J. Really LOL!!! :tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol::tlol:

graphic_content
07-21-2014, 03:25 PM
any rap song that has to use the overused money / rolex/ cars bullsh1t really needs to learn some new material.

you've successfully described nearly 99% of all commercial rap music. :D

imo - when used properly, it can be an amazing music genre, but if we are honest, its mainly used for the garbage reasons UNLUNDUN listed above.

ZariusTwo
07-21-2014, 03:26 PM
Very catchy beat in the main chorus. Often 50/50 on rap but it's a nice enough track.

Megatron
07-21-2014, 03:27 PM
good move getting Wiz in, he is a huge TMNT fan, even has a TMNT tattoo. So he will be happy.

but Juicy J killed it! i think he went the hardest.

IndigoErth
07-21-2014, 03:27 PM
overused money / rolex/ cars bullsh1t
This. Because that stuff just says "Turtles," perfect fit, no need to think about the subject matter. (Sarcasm of course.)


Edit: At best it's the background noise they put up with in the goings-on from the humans who live on their 'roof.' lol

RedRocBoy
07-21-2014, 03:28 PM
you've successfully described nearly 99% of all commercial rap music. :D

imo - when used properly, it can be an amazing music genre, but if we are honest, its mainly used for the garbage reasons UNLUNDUN listed above.

Very nice Graphic. You know what you talking bout. :tcool::tcool::tcool:

RedRocBoy
07-21-2014, 03:29 PM
good move getting Wiz in, he is a huge TMNT fan, even has a TMNT tattoo. So he will be happy.

but Juicy J killed it! i think he went the hardest.

LoL!!! Juicy was corny. Wiz actually had lines from the trailer. Which I thought was kinda dope.

hitmonkey
07-21-2014, 03:31 PM
I'm not actually a fan of rap/hip-hop normally, but I've always found it to perfectly suit TMNT. The 1990 film's hip-hop soundtrack added so much to the tone and atmosphere of the movie. This is the kind of stuff kids their age would listen to, so it makes all the more sense.

Megatron
07-21-2014, 03:33 PM
LoL!!! Juicy was corny. Wiz actually had lines from the trailer. Which I thought was kinda dope.

at least his lyrics were tmnt based. the other guys the lyrics could have been off any track. you would not even know its from a tmnt song.

RedRocBoy
07-21-2014, 03:34 PM
at least his lyrics were tmnt based. the other guys the lyrics could have been off any track. you would not even know its from a tmnt song.

Lol! Yeah that dude a character. :tlol::tlol:

graphic_content
07-21-2014, 03:40 PM
Very nice Graphic. You know what you talking bout. :tcool::tcool::tcool:

::tips hat::

i will say this...the bass in the beat, is pretty nice.

prophecy718
07-21-2014, 03:51 PM
To be honest, this track is meh :ohwell: and I grew up listening to mostly rap in the 90s. So yeah, this really isn't for me lol.

prophecy718
07-21-2014, 03:55 PM
Not a fan of hip-hop at all but I can see why they went for this since it's in the spirit of NYC. At least there's no mention of booty or lamborgi- nevermind.

Eh if they really wanted to capture the urban spirit of NYC, they could've went with a NY rapper lol

I'm semi-serious when I say that

BTW, wasn't Kid Cudi supposed to be involved with this movie as well?

graphic_content
07-21-2014, 03:55 PM
To be honest, this track is meh :ohwell: and I grew up listening to mostly rap in the 90s. So yeah, this really isn't for me lol.

lets be honest, this isnt for us - the people who grew up with rap in the 90s, its for:

the little kiddies who like to pretend they are 'hard'. NICK isnt stupid, they know exactly how to sell a product, and this is no different.

TurtleTitan97
07-21-2014, 04:25 PM
I can dig it. :tcool:

Tora
07-21-2014, 04:39 PM
That was dope!!!

THGhost
07-21-2014, 05:57 PM
Not that much into rap and this track left me cold. :ohwell:

Anton Chigurh
07-21-2014, 06:08 PM
I liked it a lot, just glad we ain't getting
linking pArk, which I like, but is to played out.

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-21-2014, 06:16 PM
not bad....I like it

Powder
07-21-2014, 06:42 PM
I like Juicy, don't like Wiz, never heard the other guy. It's an okay song on a whole, but that's more in terms of "it could be worse" rather than "I would listen to this". While I do like JJ, he & his ilk aren't really a fit for the turtles, to me. Neither is this kind of rap, to me, anyway. For me the TMNT will always be synonymous with real, old-school, street oriented hip-hop, the kinda ish that makes you nearly break your neck from boppin' your head too hard. House Of Pain, Cypress Hill, that funky stuff. Wu-tang Clan would be much better. I understand their "need" to modernize, though... but on that note I remember Kid Cudi teasing his involvement some years back, so I wonder if he's still contributed some tunes. He's much better suited to the property than these fellas, I think. He's got a more teenage/artsy edge, I think. At any rate, I'm just glad they didn't try to grab the kind of artists who repeat the same trap-house nursery rhyme garbage over & over & sound as if they have no personality/education. Juicy's got a lot of swagger & credibility, & Wiz is at least "hip" without being compleeeetely ignorant.

mistajee33
07-21-2014, 09:15 PM
It has amazingly horrible lyrics, but it's supposed to. Totally in the same vein as the other Turtle raps. Wiz Khalifa was a great choice… cheesy enough to do this sort of thing, but still a decent enough rapper to make a catchy song. I love it. Well done TMNT movie, well done!

Leo656
07-21-2014, 09:32 PM
I generally am not much into rap, but I will enthusiastically fist-bump Powder for mentioning House Of Pain, and would see even the worst TMNT movie 5 f*cking times if there was a fight scene set to "Shamrocks N Shenanigans/Boom Shalock-Lock-Boom Remix". :nod: Yessir Yes I would.

"I kicks tha flava, like Stephen King writes horror..." (cue the sirens)

pennydreadful
07-22-2014, 12:24 AM
I think the song sounds ok - it's not as good as Turtle Power but it's catchy and something you can bop your head to; I think it'll fit the tone of the movie.

I'll flat-out admit that I know frack-all about hip hop or rap. I'd like to get into some female hip hop or rap at some point, but I really just wouldn't know where to start - the little bit of rapcore that I've tried wasn't really to my taste. I'm quite sure that there's some kickass stuff out there, but everything I pick up just seems to be some dude trying to sound like a badass, rapping about ho's and money and drugs and f*ggots... which isn't my kind of thing.

So the sum extent of my "rap tracks I like" is LL Cool J's track from Deep Blue See and the stuff that's on the Blade soundtracks. :lol:

Leo656
07-22-2014, 12:34 AM
Yeah, I used to ride to work with these suburban white kids that were such huge f*cking rap posers, ALL they'd do all day every day was blast f*cking G-Unit and D12, and holy sh*t, did that get old quick. There was a ton of other stuff, too, but those are the only ones I remember. There's only so many songs about selling crack and shooting people in the face set to a thumping beat and the repeating sound of shotgun blasts that I can handle before it all starts to run together.

These kids were so into it, and listening to them talk, these way upper-middle class, polo-shirt wearing, gel-haired little puss-wads, as "gangsta" as they got was, "Yo, my mom ain't home, let's go sniff a couple bags of dope and make some macaroni and cheese." :lol:

I much prefer the 70s and 80s and even early-90s stuff. Although if I don't listen to "Baby I Got Yo' Money" by Ol' Dirty Bastard every few days, I lose ALL my super-powers. I f*cking need that song the way strippers need abusive relationships.

pennydreadful
07-22-2014, 02:17 AM
Tell me about it - my nemesister is the dictionary definition of white suburban rap poser. It's a miracle that I'm even open to the idea of listening to rap after growing up cheek-by-jowl with a self-professed Juggalo (or whatever the female equivalent is). NYGH.

Leo656
07-22-2014, 02:22 AM
Hey now, True Juggalos ain't about thuggin' an' buggin'. Funny story, turns out ICP is all about how they're super-down with "Jesus El Salvador." They do a butt-load of stuff for kids and charities. It's the posers you gotta worry about. They can't listen past the mayhem and see the real message.

I was as shocked as anyone to find out ICP has a message. Especially a positive one. I got there way late, but I'm kinda into them now. They're funny.

NYShell
07-22-2014, 08:35 AM
Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm guessing i won't like it. So much for this movie having a deep, meaningful, uplifting score soundtrack.

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 09:03 AM
Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm guessing i won't like it. So much for this movie having a deep, meaningful, uplifting score soundtrack.

It's supposed to be fun...why the hell would it have a deep, meaningful, uplifting soundtrack? I think some of you people are asking and expecting WAY TOO MUCH from this movie. It's a popcorn flick. Not an Academy Award winning movie here.

MrTMNT2012
07-22-2014, 09:05 AM
Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm guessing i won't like it. So much for this movie having a deep, meaningful, uplifting score soundtrack.

Cause Vanilla Ice was clearly an Academy Award winner with his Ninja Rap, wasn't he? :trolleye:

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 09:14 AM
Cause Vanilla Ice was clearly an Academy Award winner with his Ninja Rap, wasn't he? :trolleye:

And Partners in Kryme and Ya Kid K and Hi Tek 3 and Spunkadelic. Oh and lets not forget Baltimora....yeah this movie should TOTALLY have a uplifting, meaningful, blah, blah, blah soundtrack

Glados
07-22-2014, 09:27 AM
Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm guessing i won't like it. So much for this movie having a deep, meaningful, uplifting score soundtrack.

The film is an action-comedy like the first live-action TMNT flicks, so it should go without saying that you won't get that... Hip-hop/rap with cheesy lyrics is what you should expect in a TMNT movie's credits.

That said, the song isn't my cup of tea either, but I'm not in to rap in general, so I'll keep my trap shut.

slingtheory
07-22-2014, 10:30 AM
i think we heard two different songs, if not, I respectfully disagree :lol: but then again, the original rap song paired with the 90s films was just as cheesy as this, but personally I thought this song was lyrically weak. put someone like Common or Mos Def, and I'd proudly listen to this in my car WITH the windows down.
god awful lyrics..missed opportunity for a decent TURTLE POWER remix.

any rap song that has to use the overused money / rolex/ cars bullsh1t really needs to learn some new material.

I agree with you guys 100%. I wish they would've gotten somebody whose more lyrical and clever with their wordplay. I hate when rappers lean too hard on materialism or misogyny and I hear a lot of the former in this and a little bit of the latter. I was through when I heard the part near the end about passing a girl off because he's a team player. Imo its pretty weak as a modern day turtles rap but I did kind of like the hook though.

TigerClaw
07-22-2014, 10:31 AM
a new trailer just debut and you can hear the new track very prominently.

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MrTMNT2012
07-22-2014, 10:36 AM
OMG! I'm dying laughing at that Elevator scene :D :D :lol: :lol:

slingtheory
07-22-2014, 10:41 AM
Cause Vanilla Ice was clearly an Academy Award winner with his Ninja Rap, wasn't he? :trolleye:

And Partners in Kryme and Ya Kid K and Hi Tek 3 and Spunkadelic. Oh and lets not forget Baltimora....yeah this movie should TOTALLY have a uplifting, meaningful, blah, blah, blah soundtrack

geez you cant blame the guy for hoping. its not like he declared the movie crap for not having it he just stated his disappointment

TigerClaw
07-22-2014, 10:47 AM
OMG! I'm dying laughing at that Elevator scene :D :D :lol: :lol:
Hah, Yep.

https://i.imgflip.com/aihwr.gif (https://imgflip.com/gif/aihwr)

Bossanova
07-22-2014, 10:53 AM
im really, REALLY, picky when it comes to rap, i think Del The Funky Homosapian would fit perfectly with a tmnt movie, i also like to hear more unknown bands for movies but i know thats not hollywoods style. but im not gonna get butt-hurt about it, after all we are getting a new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie again, can you believe it

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 10:54 AM
geez you cant blame the guy for hoping. its not like he declared the movie crap for not having it he just stated his disappointment

I wouldn't expect anything like that from a TMNT movie...seriously?? That's just setting yourself up for disappointment if you ask me

Lou 500
07-22-2014, 11:05 AM
There's a couple of new tracks in this one:

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Edit: and this one:

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NOTE: "The Fold - Go Ninja Go" is NOT part if the official soundtrack and is from a Lego cartoon.

slingtheory
07-22-2014, 11:06 AM
I wouldn't expect anything like that from a TMNT movie...seriously?? That's just setting yourself up for disappointment if you ask me maybe not this specific movie but I wouldn't count it out as something that couldn't happen in the future. I think there are guys out there who'd like to do a more serious (for lack of a better word) take on it if given the chance. we'd probably be getting a batman begins like tmnt right now if Viacom hadn't vetoed the script for being "too dark"

Leo656
07-22-2014, 11:33 AM
Yeah, some people actually want more than a "stupid-fun" TMNT movie. You guys are getting what you want, great. And one day, you may get worn out on a billion of those kinds of movies, too, regardless of what they're based on, and say, "Y'know, it'd be nice if, for once, this franchise wasn't just a punchline or a toy commercial." Why is that so hard for some of you to believe?

Batman movies get to run the spectrum between goofy to serious, while TMNT movies only ever get to be juvenile, despite the fact that there's a lot of room to do at least a more balanced take, even if it wasn't 100% serious. One day, someone most likely will do a more "Dark Knight"-style version of TMNT, and based on what I've read here, I sincerely look forward to having a nice quiet theater to enjoy it in, since none of you will be there.

I'm happy for you guys, really. You're getting exactly the movie you want, but some people are getting the exact opposite, whether it's visuals or tone or music or whatever. And you can't blame 'em for saying, "What about us?" Your way isn't the ONLY way to do this franchise, just so we're all clear.

Donnieangelo
07-22-2014, 11:35 AM
I can't wait anymore! Man, I need a rest.

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121125225337/tmnt2012series/images/1/1a/Mikey_tired_gif.gif

NYShell
07-22-2014, 11:40 AM
Yeah, some people actually want more than a "stupid-fun" TMNT movie. You guys are getting what you want, great. And one day, you may get worn out on a billion of those kinds of movies, too, regardless of what they're based on, and say, "Y'know, it'd be nice if, for once, this franchise wasn't just a punchline or a toy commercial." Why is that so hard for some of you to believe?

Batman movies get to run the spectrum between goofy to serious, while TMNT movies only ever get to be juvenile, despite the fact that there's a lot of room to do at least a more balanced take, even if it wasn't 100% serious. One day, someone most likely will do a more "Dark Knight"-style version of TMNT, and based on what I've read here, I sincerely look forward to having a nice quiet theater to enjoy it in, since none of you will be there.

I'm happy for you guys, really. You're getting exactly the movie you want, but some people are getting the exact opposite, whether it's visuals or tone or music or whatever. And you can't blame 'em for saying, "What about us?" Your way isn't the ONLY way to do this franchise, just so we're all clear.

This right here. So nicely written.

Leo656
07-22-2014, 11:52 AM
Thanks buddy. I just... y'know, every other thing I love, I have a version of to suit my mood. If I want "kiddie" Superman, I can watch Super-Friends or the Filmation show. If I want "dark, grown-up" Superman, I can watch "Man of Steel". Same thing with Batman, Young Justice/Teen Titans, even Ghostbusters, kinda. Yet whenever anyone does a mass-market TMNT, they insist on shoveling the kids' stuff down my throat. And that's fine, when I'm in the mood for that! But sometimes I like it darker. I don't really like the Mirage books, but I would like a little more drama and pathos in my TMNT stuff now and then, and not have that be limited to comics or cartoons. So, I'm just screwed, I guess?

This has nothing at all to do with the music itself, as I've never been totally for or against anything from the other soundtracks, either. But since people keep insisting that *anything* more dark or somber or orchestral has no place in anything TMNT, I'm gonna go ahead and say yeah, that's not true at all. It wouldn't fit this movie, clearly, and that's fine. For now. One day, maybe movie fans will get a little more variety in their Turtles, just like they have with everything else.

MrTMNT2012
07-22-2014, 11:53 AM
Yeah, some people actually want more than a "stupid-fun" TMNT movie. You guys are getting what you want, great. And one day, you may get worn out on a billion of those kinds of movies, too, regardless of what they're based on, and say, "Y'know, it'd be nice if, for once, this franchise wasn't just a punchline or a toy commercial." Why is that so hard for some of you to believe?

Batman movies get to run the spectrum between goofy to serious, while TMNT movies only ever get to be juvenile, despite the fact that there's a lot of room to do at least a more balanced take, even if it wasn't 100% serious. One day, someone most likely will do a more "Dark Knight"-style version of TMNT, and based on what I've read here, I sincerely look forward to having a nice quiet theater to enjoy it in, since none of you will be there.

I'm happy for you guys, really. You're getting exactly the movie you want, but some people are getting the exact opposite, whether it's visuals or tone or music or whatever. And you can't blame 'em for saying, "What about us?" Your way isn't the ONLY way to do this franchise, just so we're all clear.

Don't know who exactly this is directed at but I personally want more than a 'stupid-fun' TMNT Movie and it looks like I'm getting that with this movie. There's already a balance between comedy, action and drama I'm seeing that was not present in any other Turtles movie and the fact that it's self-aware makes it much smarter than anything we had in the past. That's what makes the Nickelodeon series great, it doesn't go overboard but knows how to pace it's episodes accordingly.

Even if the designs look crap to some people, I doubt anyone can argue that the visuals and CGI look amazingly detailed which once again makes me happy because it's the kind of treatment I expect from the Ninja Turtles. Plus, their personalities are captured perfectly from what we've seen and that makes these characters fully realised and fun.

I'm the kind of person that puts characters first, story second because I wouldn't care for the story if I didn't care about the characters first. The focus on the turtles is much appreciated especially knowing that Michael Bay is involved!

I never wanted the turtles to 'become punch-lines' like you said but I don't want them to become Shakespearean characters either. I'm just happy that this movie has a balance and that's more than I can say for any other Live-action TMNT Movie or Michael Bay Movies!

Plus, there's definitely not enough room for the Turtles to be treated on the same level as 'The Dark Knight'. As long as the title remains Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that concept is too finely veiled at this point!

NYShell
07-22-2014, 12:16 PM
Thanks buddy. I just... y'know, every other thing I love, I have a version of to suit my mood. If I want "kiddie" Superman, I can watch Super-Friends or the Filmation show. If I want "dark, grown-up" Superman, I can watch "Man of Steel". Same thing with Batman, Young Justice/Teen Titans, even Ghostbusters, kinda. Yet whenever anyone does a mass-market TMNT, they insist on shoveling the kids' stuff down my throat. And that's fine, when I'm in the mood for that! But sometimes I like it darker. I don't really like the Mirage books, but I would like a little more drama and pathos in my TMNT stuff now and then, and not have that be limited to comics or cartoons. So, I'm just screwed, I guess?

This has nothing at all to do with the music itself, as I've never been totally for or against anything from the other soundtracks, either. But since people keep insisting that *anything* more dark or somber or orchestral has no place in anything TMNT, I'm gonna go ahead and say yeah, that's not true at all. It wouldn't fit this movie, clearly, and that's fine. For now. One day, maybe movie fans will get a little more variety in their Turtles, just like they have with everything else.

I agree with you. I'm really excited to see this movie and I'll be seeing it premiere night and in 3d later, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything everyone is so easily taking. Why can't TMNT have something that's dark, dramatic and not just catered to a lighter audience? I would like a mainstream, dark version for once, but I'll just keep hoping.

GeneralTragg
07-22-2014, 12:35 PM
a Track off the TMNT movie soundtrack is set to be released on July 22, Titled Shell Shocked, By Juicy J, Wiz Khalifa, Ty Dolla $ign ft. Kill The Noise & Madsonik

zss1EHSuT1A

Ick... can't get past the first five seconds... just ick...

Vicky82
07-22-2014, 12:38 PM
There's a couple of new tracks in this one:

S_sb7qU0YQQ

Edit: and this one:

p1uCvWfBdtg

NOTE: "The Fold - Go Ninja Go" is NOT part if the official soundtrack and is from a Lego cartoon.

Wow, i'm defently getting the soundtrack. :D

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 12:58 PM
Isn't that stuff from other movies?
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zodiac brave
07-22-2014, 01:12 PM
Not an Academy Award winning movie here.

Funnily enough, juicy j did actually win an Oscar for the hustle and flow soundtrack.

Not saying any of that Oscar magic is gonna rub off on this flick, but it is nice to be able to say that there's a least one person who worked on this flick in some capacity that has an Oscar, heh.

Honestly, I'm not surprised by the quality or lack thereof. Lemme put on my hip-hop head hat on real quick...

The beat isnt bad. I mean, Its not great, but for what's supposed to be a big mass market promo song the production is better than it coulda been. I don't listen to wiz, but he's huge with my 13 year old nephew, so I guess I can see the merit of putting him on here with his reach to that demographic. Ty is pretty new and i haven't got to check out any of his stuff, but honestly, he seems like this weeks hypebeast that'll be relegated to featuring on b-level rappers songs after a minute.

Juicys got the most cred, but its not like he's Lupe fiasco or kid cudi, who as others have mentioned has a style that's much more in line with the spirit of the franchise (for lack of better wording).

I get the legacy that the franchise has had a result of having tie ins with hip hop songs in the past, and I was expecting something like this already, but wasn't sure what wed actually get.

Is it bad?
Meh.
Is it a missed opportunity?
Maybe.
Is it gonna ruin the movie?
Naaaah.

But still...coulda been better.

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 01:15 PM
Funnily enough, juicy j did actually win an Oscar for the hustle and flow soundtrack.

Not saying any of that Oscar magic is gonna rub off on this flick, but it is nice to be able to say that there's a least one person who worked on this flick in some capacity that has an Oscar, heh.

Honestly, I'm not surprised by the quality or lack thereof. Lemme put on my hip-hop head hat on real quick...

The beat isnt bad. I mean, Its not great, but for what's supposed to be a big mass market promo song the production is better than it coulda been. I don't listen to wiz, but he's huge with my 13 year old nephew, so I guess I can see the merit of putting him on here with his reach to that demographic. Ty is pretty new and i haven't got to check out any of his stuff, but honestly, he seems like this weeks hypebeast that'll be relegated to featuring on b-level rappers songs after a minute.

Juicys got the most cred, but its not like he's Lupe fiasco or kid cudi, who as others have mentioned has a style that's much more in line with the spirit of the franchise (for lack of better wording).

I get the legacy that the franchise has had a result of having tie ins with hip hop songs in the past, and I was expecting something like this already, but wasn't sure what wed actually get.

Is it bad?
Meh.
Is it a missed opportunity?
Maybe.
Is it gonna ruin the movie?
Naaaah.

But still...coulda been better.


I'm not knocking the song...I actually like it. Shocker

Donnieangelo
07-22-2014, 02:11 PM
Ick... can't get past the first five seconds... just ick...
And I listened to the whole thing.

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 02:58 PM
And I listened to the whole thing.

Me too. Several times actually. As I said above...I rather like it

NinjaPug
07-22-2014, 04:30 PM
My goodness, that Shell Shocked song is beyond terrible. Seems to fit well with the majority of what I've seen from this movie.

TigerClaw
07-22-2014, 04:58 PM
So there's an article on the USA Today site that talks about, The 7 worst lines in the new 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' rap song
http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2014/07/22/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-rap-song-shell-shocked-juicy-j-wiz-khalifa-ty-dolla-sign/

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859
07-22-2014, 05:06 PM
Apparently she is unaware of the fact that Gym Class Heroes did a song called Shell Shock...it had it's fair share of cheesy lines. Haters gonna hate

Leo_Prime
07-22-2014, 05:16 PM
I couldn't resist, I just had to do it. :lol:

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ToTheNines
07-22-2014, 05:53 PM
Wiz' verse was weak, but it was a fun little song.

What ever happened to Kid Cudi though? Wasn't he supposed to be involved in this movie somehow?

slingtheory
07-22-2014, 07:08 PM
Don't know who exactly this is directed at but I personally want more than a 'stupid-fun' TMNT Movie and it looks like I'm getting that with this movie. There's already a balance between comedy, action and drama I'm seeing that was not present in any other Turtles movie and the fact that it's self-aware makes it much smarter than anything we had in the past. That's what makes the Nickelodeon series great, it doesn't go overboard but knows how to pace it's episodes accordingly.

Even if the designs look crap to some people, I doubt anyone can argue that the visuals and CGI look amazingly detailed which once again makes me happy because it's the kind of treatment I expect from the Ninja Turtles. Plus, their personalities are captured perfectly from what we've seen and that makes these characters fully realised and fun.

I'm the kind of person that puts characters first, story second because I wouldn't care for the story if I didn't care about the characters first. The focus on the turtles is much appreciated especially knowing that Michael Bay is involved!

I never wanted the turtles to 'become punch-lines' like you said but I don't want them to become Shakespearean characters either. I'm just happy that this movie has a balance and that's more than I can say for any other Live-action TMNT Movie or Michael Bay Movies!

Plus, there's definitely not enough room for the Turtles to be treated on the same level as 'The Dark Knight'. As long as the title remains Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that concept is too finely veiled at this point! I agree with you that a tmnt movie should be fun but stupid fun, naw. I think the green guys deserve better than that.I'm not asking for shakespearean levels of drama either just something that takes itself somewhat seriously instead of being tounge in cheek and poking fun at the very idea of the premise. Even the original didn't pull that crap and now its 30 years later. We're well past the point where anyone should be expecting to get a giggle out of how silly the title sounds its 2014 people got over that along time ago. On that note I find it frustrating we're 30 years in and to the public at large the turtles are still considered as being JUST for kids. Meanwhile every other comic book character in existence is right in the middle of an entertainment renaissance where everyone and their grandmother sees them as acceptable entertain ment for adults. And what's the difference between those characters and the tmnt.nothing except at some point in their history some creative person decided to present them to the mainstream public in a more mature light.

pennydreadful
07-22-2014, 07:48 PM
I agree with you that a tmnt movie should be fun but stupid fun, naw. I think the green guys deserve better than that.I'm not asking for shakespearean levels of drama either just something that takes itself somewhat seriously instead of being tounge in cheek and poking fun at the very idea of the premise. Even the original didn't pull that crap and now its 30 years later. We're well past the point where anyone should be expecting to get a giggle out of how silly the title sounds its 2014 people got over that along time ago.

Amen. It is possible for a movie to be fun without being brainless. There is a comfortable middle ground.

Galactus
07-22-2014, 07:51 PM
I'm the kind of person that puts characters first, story second because I wouldn't care for the story if I didn't care about the characters first. The focus on the turtles is much appreciated especially knowing that Michael Bay is involved!

Why can't we have both. The story in itself is pretty important particularly the origin it's their motivation, the how and why they do what they do.

I'd argue it's pretty important to the general public as much as to fans otherwise the cgi flick wouldn't get as much criticism as it does because that certainly "nailed" as did TMNT 3 which also gets lambasted.

I also wouldn't be so quick trust they've gotten the characters right in the upcoming either. Yes, the standard personalities are there but from it looks like they are somewhat overblown.

I never wanted the turtles to 'become punch-lines' like you said but I don't want them to become Shakespearean characters either. I'm just happy that this movie has a balance and that's more than I can say for any other Live-action TMNT Movie or Michael Bay Movies!

I'm not really seeing a balance though. There's a scenes at night but all of it seems wall to wall funny. Even the action seems distracted constant one liners and funny moments.

Plus, there's definitely not enough room for the Turtles to be treated on the same level as 'The Dark Knight'. As long as the title remains Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, that concept is too finely veiled at this point!

Really? I'd easily put Return to New York with The Dark Knight Returns, City At War with Daredevil's Born Again.

The surface of most comic book heroes sounds ridiculous. Batman was criticized as "clowned up Shadow" when he was created and that's exactly what was even before the comedic and camp eras.

Man jumps from rooftops dressed as bat or man seeks justice after the murder of his parents as a symbol.

Talking turtles learn ninjitsu and fight crime or inhuman creatures trained as ninjas seek to avenge a fallen family member.

You make it as silly and as serious as you want and anywhere in between. It's looks like Platinum Dunes has made the juvenile version yet.

MrTMNT2012
07-22-2014, 08:04 PM
Why can't we have both. The story in itself is pretty important particularly the origin it's their motivation, the how and why they do what they do.

I'd argue it's pretty important to the general public as much as to fans otherwise the cgi flick wouldn't get as much criticism as it does because that certainly "nailed" as did TMNT 3 which also gets lambasted.

I also wouldn't be so quick trust they've gotten the characters right in the upcoming either. Yes, the standard personalities are there but from it looks like they are somewhat overblown.



I'm not really seeing a balance though. There's a scenes at night but all of it seems wall to wall funny. Even the action seems distracted constant one liners and funny moments.



Really? I'd easily put Return to New York with The Dark Knight Returns, City At War with Daredevil's Born Again.

The surface of most comic book heroes sounds ridiculous. Batman was criticized as "clowned up Shadow" and that's exactly what was even before the comedic and camp eras.

Man jumps from rooftops dressed as bat or man seeks justice after the murder of his parents as a symbol.

Talking turtles learn ninjitsu and fight crime or inhuman creatures trained as ninjas seek to avenge a fallen family member.

You make it as silly and as serious as you want and anywhere in between. It's looks like Platinum Dunes has made the juvenile version yet.

I never said we can't have both, I'm just saying the characters should be more carefully developed than the story in something like TMNT.

In terms of the fight scenes, I've seen two where they're cracking jokes (Lair Battle and Snow Chase) and two where they're completely serious (Underground hostage battle and the final battle with Shredder) so that seems pretty balanced to me.

I'd argue both TMNT 2007 and definitely Turtles 3 did not capture the Turtles at all. We had one version where they're expressing deep emotions and analysing them (Yeah, VERY teenager-like...) nearly every scene with somehow little character development and then we have the other version where all the Turtles act the exact same stupid way.

The fact that you compared something like Return to New York to The Dark Knight Returns says it all.

Galactus
07-22-2014, 08:43 PM
I never said we can't have both, I'm just saying the characters should be more carefully developed than the story in something like TMNT.

What leads you to believe the characters have been carefully developed in this movie. If anything it looks like the characters are overblown. Certainly from a visual standpoint they look like caricatures what with Don's taped up glasses and his high pitched "they got guns" it doesn't look like there's any room for any shade of grey.

In terms of the fight scenes, I've seen two where they're cracking jokes (Lair Battle and Snow Chase) and two where they're completely serious (Underground hostage battle and the final battle with Shredder) so that seems pretty balanced to me.

At least the trailer version of the subway station battle has had them whooping and cheering and certainly "I'm a snappin' turtle fool" in the raid on the lair sounds like it's par of the course with that scene.

We've barely seen any of the rooftop battle with Shredder so I wouldn't rule out any jokes and it looks like the elevator scene is right before which doesn't look like they are approaching this scene with any sense of drama.

Also the over-the-top action itself is comical and completely undermines any seriousness to me and deflecting bullets with swords and super strong pogo that can flip cars pretty much takes away sense of seriousness out of the equation for me. I wouldn't mind a bit of that but not in every action, I'd argue it takes away any wow factor.

I'd argue both TMNT 2007 and definitely Turtles 3 did not capture the Turtles at all. We had one version where they're expressing deep emotions and analysing them (Yeah, VERY teenager-like...) nearly every scene with somehow little character development and then we have the other version where all the Turtles act the exact same stupid way.

In both movies all the turtles acted like their set characters. Putting aside that it was open to interpretation whether the turtles in the Imagi movie were still teenagers I'd self analyzing is VERY teenage like. Teenagers are very self absorbed, for most teens first crushes are always "the one", you have a beef with someone you really hate them and no one really understands you. I'd say the Bay turtles are written more like what old men think teenagers act like.

I don't know what you mean by character development with the 07 movie but there was some with the Raph and Leo stuff. Standard as it is but it's there.

TMNT III had Raph's tough exterior warming and and Mikey wanting to stay in a place were he's appreciated rather than hide. It's all pretty schmaltzy but I certainly but it's there.

The fact that you compared something like Return to New York to The Dark Knight Returns says it all.

In terms of impact; of course not. In terms of quality I'd say it's up there.

IndigoErth
07-22-2014, 08:44 PM
Well I'm back with an additional opinion on this. And let me just preface it by saying that by holding my opinion it is in no way a judgement on anyone else's opinions, tastes or ideas of what should or shouldn't be to applied to the Turtles if it happens to fall on the opposite of how I feel about this... So get those panties comfortable, no need for bunching at this time.

After seeing online what a bunch of these lyrics actually say, I have to say I'm rather disappointed. Are some "music" artists in the rap genre so stuck inside the box on rap-acceptable topics that instead of making a 'song' about the Turtles as the subject matter they chose to make it about typical overused rap topics and just shoehorn the Turtles into it?

I mean no, Vanilla Ice's song was not directly about them, just the "ninja" reference. But that's all it needed to be.

But to make the lyrics about typical things like money and just add the Turtles to it because, well, hey, they're green like money!... :tgrumble: To me (and maybe it's just me), it feels insulting toward them and a lack of consideration for beloved characters of 30 years.

Hope it happily finds it's home way back in the end credits...