Skull Island: A King Kong Prelude

[Allio]

Straight from SDCC:



Source (http://www.superherohype.com/news/310605-comic-con-legendary-pictures-date-king-kong-origin-film-skull-island-for-november-4-2016)

Man, Legendary is grabbing ALL of the giant monster franchises. And is, from the sound of things, a King Kong prequel? Interesting.

Although I still can't help but wonder if all of this is a prelude to something. Something bigger...almost GODlike. Especially considering that OTHER announcement with a certain giant monster they made today...

[CyberCubed]

Peter Jackson's King Kong was brilliant, I doubt they'll top that one.

[Leo656]

Straight from SDCC:



Source (http://www.superherohype.com/news/310605-comic-con-legendary-pictures-date-king-kong-origin-film-skull-island-for-november-4-2016)

Man, Legendary is grabbing ALL of the giant monster franchises. And is, from the sound of things, a King Kong prequel? Interesting.

Although I still can't help but wonder if all of this is a prelude to something. Something bigger...almost GODlike. Especially considering that OTHER announcement with a certain giant monster they made today...

I know what you're thinkin', and I think they're thinkin' the same way. That could be epic.

[Turo602]

Yeah, it seems like the logical thing to do considering everyone is going big these days. We got Avengers, now Batman vs Superman is actually a thing, X-Men is getting their sh*t together, Spider-Man's going Sinister Six, and Star Wars is about to get much bigger. So why not Godzilla vs King Kong? I've never really been a King Kong fan, but the news excites me only because I can see this happening.

[turtlefanforever]

No jack black? Pass for me. Jk. Sounds good. Godzilla vs King Kong in present day could be amazing. But it'll probably be underwhelming like Freddy vs Jason. Another movie with so much potential that you can't help but be disappointed cause there can always be something done better.

[sdp]

Wow, awesome the remake was awesome with the exception that it was a little too long, I was sad they didn't make a sequel since the previous two reboots had one. A prequel idea works well since Skull Island is a very interesting place and in this movie we can see Kong as the hero probably and if successful they can easily make more sequels that are still prequels to the film.

I definitely don't see another KK vs Godzilla movie, especially since this Godzilla towers over past Godzillas which already towered over King Kong. Having a bigger "Kong" defeats the purpose since it's not really KK...if they attempt a crossover I think Pacific Rim is more likely, I'm pretty sure the B.O. of Godzilla is the only reason we're even getting a sequel and cartoon, they want to cash-in on the giant monster craze that Godzilla started without having to pay royalties to TOEI.

[Godzilla]

Although I still can't help but wonder if all of this is a prelude to something. Something bigger...almost GODlike. Especially considering that OTHER announcement with a certain giant monster they made today...

Mmmhmm ... Well, setting up a Kong reboot prior to a Godzilla sequel featuring Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, and King Ghidorah, what better way to follow-up that than with KING KONG VS. GODZILLA?

That's a license to print money for Universal/Legenday, and they seem pretty aware of it too.

[Leo656]

Yeah, but... Godzilla's a million feet tall now. Kong's "just" a giant gorilla. That's no fight.

I'm sure they'll figure something out. It might be contrived, but I'm sure they'll figure something out.

[Godzilla]

Yeah, but... Godzilla's a million feet tall now. Kong's "just" a giant gorilla. That's no fight.

I'm sure they'll figure something out. It might be contrived, but I'm sure they'll figure something out.

They'll just have to go back to the original 1933 King Kong. Where Kong was a mythic ape-like missing link, and not "just" a giant gorilla. Which, I think, diminished Kong to some extent in the Peter Jackson film. With the original film, Kong was something more than that.

Considering that, you can certainly play around with dimensions and such. Kong will likely be playing the role of the underdog in a battle with Godzilla, but that was the case in the original version, and fully expected in a possible King Kong vs. Godzilla part deaux as well.

[Leo656]

Aw, but I like Godzilla better. Everyone roots for the underdog. I kinda don't care about Kong as much. I'd rather see Godzilla just nuke his ass with the atomic breath... after a scrap worthy of the ticket price, of course. :P

I'm sure they'll work it out. I just know who I'll be rooting for, underdog Kong or no. Screw it, let the "bad guy" win for a change. :P

[TigerClaw]

Some new details have emerge about Kong: Skull Island.

Apparently the movie is set in the same universe as Godzilla, The script makes references to Monarch, the secret government entity in Godzilla, which is why the production was moved from Universal back to Warner Bros.

This will lead into a potential King Kong vs Godzilla movie after Godzilla 2 comes out.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-gorilla-warfare-s-universal-823715

[sdp]

I'm a bit disappointed they want to make Skull Island a reboot instead of a prequel to the last KK movie. King Kong can only do so many things, it's not a "cinematic" universe. Seeing Godzilla vs King Kong again would be awesome, I'd love to see it again. No GvKK should not be something that is in continuity, that will ruin both franchises, ugh. The new American Godzilla film was alright but nothing amazing either, and this sets it up to people not taking it into account.

[TigerClaw]

King Kong will be 100 feet tall in Kong: Skull Island.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/kong-skull-island-director-reveals-king-kongs-size-a142794

[Andrew NDB]

King Kong will be 100 feet tall in Kong: Skull Island.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/kong-skull-island-director-reveals-king-kongs-size-a142794

Huh. But Godzilla (2014) was 350 feet.

Maybe the Kong in this dies and his baby gets bigger? Or something happens later to make him even bigger?

Or maybe, hey, Kong is just 100 feet and Godzilla is 350 and there's a bit of a disadvantage. Though Kong is probably way faster than Godzilla.

[ProactiveMan]

100 feet? So that can't be the same ape as the one in King Kong if Skull Island is a prequel; he was only 50 feet max. Maybe there are two Kongs in an oversized trenchcoat or something.

[TigerClaw]

100 feet? So that can't be the same ape as the one in King Kong if Skull Island is a prequel; he was only 50 feet max. Maybe there are two Kongs in an oversized trenchcoat or something.
Its more a reboot then a prequel, they are doing Kong: Skull Island, Godzilla 2, and then King Kong vs Godzilla.

[ProactiveMan]

Fair enough. They'll have to think hard about Kong's design and anoatomy if he's 100 feet tall. Scaling up a gorilla is going to look stupid.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, sounds like the equivalent to Rise of the Planet of the Apes. It's a prequel... but it's a reboot prequel to a rebooted series to be.

Although... isn't Skull Island a period piece, like in the 50s or something? I thought I'd read that. If so, maybe he "fought" Godzilla when Godzilla was a little younger. So maybe when Brian Cranston died in Godzilla 2014, Godzilla had already fought King Kong (in the movie to come) like decades ago.

[ProactiveMan]

That would make sense - I think in the opening credits they were trying to kill Godzilla with nukes in the 50s and 60s.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the Kong: Skull Island Comic Con Trailer

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[drgon78]

Now I am really interested in this one.

[Vicky82]

This looks a lot better than the last King Kong movie.

[Allio]

it does help that it isn't just telling the same story.

You know, since Kong movies have the Kong vs T-Rex fight. What if instead, we have a short Kong vs Rodan fight

[ernesth100]

Kong vs Godzilla Fan Trailer. It's the first one I've ever done. Therefore its not 100% perfect. So comment thoughts below.

Also snuck in a suprise after the credits

https://youtu.be/PLHA8p8GHFA

[Etsyturtle2]

So is this the same universe as Godzila 2014?

[Allio]

Yes. Takes like 20 years after the Godzilla bombing in 54. Skull island probably will be a site name for monster

[sdp]

Well I was growing to the idea of a bigger King Kong and a reboot even if I still felt the KK/G Universe is a dumb idea but after watching the trailer it just looks bad, I don't have much fate in it. What's worse is that if they hadn't gotten this "people want shared universes" idea from Marvel maybe we would've gotten a cool Kong movie about Skull Island and the things that live there. I'll wait to see more before I judge it but I'm not confident at all.

This looks a lot better than the last King Kong movie.

What are you talking about the last Kong movie was pretty good, maybe too long but it was good. Nothing will beat the original but I doubt this new version will be better than Jackson's.

[Redeemer]

So is this the same universe as Godzila 2014?

Yes I think so. I believe they confirmed a Godzilla vs King Kong cross-over in 2019

[Blackeyedsonic]

I can't believe i missed this thread i am super existed for kong skull island and a 100ft kong looks awesome i hered some rumors that hes even bigger then that i kinda hope so because i was a huge fight when godzilla vs kong is finally out

[Allio]

Since Skull island takes place in the 70's, he will probably have more than enough time to grow for 2020 for the kong vs godzilla

[Blackeyedsonic]

Since Skull island takes place in the 70's, he will probably have more than enough time to grow for 2020 for the kong vs godzilla

You got a point I'm hoping they exsplain that in the movie hell even a throw away part with a bigger skeleton from his species seen in the backrond would work

[TigerClaw]

Check out these two new Posters.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxalIo5UkAA2qr0.jpg:small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxalKg4UoAA5hSe.jpg:small

The new trailer will debut tonight during Jimmy Kimmel Live.
https://twitter.com/kongskullisland/status/798979057652109312

TONIGHT: @twhiddleston drops by @jimmykimmel to debut the new #kongskullisland trailer - tune in at 11:35p/10:35p CT on ABC! #Kimmel

[Andrew NDB]

Since Skull island takes place in the 70's, he will probably have more than enough time to grow for 2020 for the kong vs godzilla

You're assuming Kong vs. Godzilla takes place now. Maybe it takes place not long after Skull Island... when it is Godzilla who is a little smaller.

[Wildcat]

I'm am excited for this and the eventual Kong vs Godzilla but I just hope it does not all turn out like Godzilla 2014 with the humans being the heavy focus.

I know King Ghidorah is supposed to be in the next Godzilla movie so hopefully since the setup is done the monsters get the spotlight.

Posters look cool.

[sdp]

Kong is too big even if he isn't Godzilla size.

The original concept of the movie is gone where it would take place in Skull Island before any events and now even the King himself is in the title. Kong Skull Island is nothing at all like the movie it was originally going to be and would've been an amazing take.

I'm still excited over a Kong V Godzilla movie that is a bit more serious but come on this kills any "serious" take the 2014 movie was going for and ruined Kong in the process. I guess it's ok since the 2014 take wasn't that great anyway but I had high hopes for the Kong prequel since Skull Island coudl've been an amazing movie with people just exploring that crazy island.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the new trailer

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[drgon78]

This is getting more and more interesting. But I am already sold on seeing it.

[Allio]

You're assuming Kong vs. Godzilla takes place now. Maybe it takes place not long after Skull Island... when it is Godzilla who is a little smaller.

yeah...5 bucks says that ain't happening, especially considering Godzilla hadn't been seen since between the 50's and 2014

[TigerClaw]

yeah...5 bucks says that ain't happening, especially considering Godzilla hadn't been seen since between the 50's and 2014
They still plan on doing Godzilla 2 after this one, and then King Kong vs Godzilla.

[Allio]

that...had nothing to do with the coversation, but thanks for sharing.

[Wildcat]

Pretty awesome trailer. They showed a lot of King Kong unlike the lead up to Godzilla 2014 where his design was a total secret.

Hopefully that wasn't all the Kong footage in the movie :lol:

[Allio]

to be fair, there isn't much you can do with "giant ape" as you basic.

[Andrew NDB]

I think we'll see a good amount of Kong in this, if only it's because it's the same crew -- mostly -- behind the Godzilla remake and they're all inching toward their coveted shared universe.

It's a bit funny, though. You think about things like Transformers, the PD TMNT movies, Godzilla 2014... the original movie comes out and there's more humans than Transformers, TMNT, or Godzilla, everyone whines, and the sequel comes out and everyone goes, "They learned from the first one, there's more [insert titular character(s)] in this one!" but it's really not that at all.

Wonder what happened to the Universal Monster shared universe? Dracula Untold was supposed to be Chapter 1 of that. Not even a whisper about it anymore.

[Allio]

The Mummy is suppose to be the new Chapter 1

[TigerClaw]

Kong: Skull Island is opening this weekend and its been getting positive reviews, Right now it has an 81% on Rotten Tomatoes, I'm gonna see it this weekend.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/kong_skull_island

[CyberCubed]

I loved Kong 2005, I wonder if this will be better.

[turtle1237]

Peter Jackson's King Kong was brilliant, I doubt they'll top that one.

Overrated. 1933 all the way.

[sdp]

My last comments on Skull Island were on the Godzilla 2 (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48451&page=2&highlight=godzilla)thread and I was mad and not excited since they got rid of the original idea of "Skull Island" prequel of King Kong that dealt with the island and not Kong but they changed it to another Kong movie to fit it in to the Godzilla monsterverse. They didn't even let them use dinosaurs in the movie since Universal told them "we're already doing Dinosaurs in Jurassic World" but....ey

I've made a full 180, and I'm super excited for the film. I'm still mad at the above however I think I'll be able to enjoy the film for what it is; A new take on Kong and one that embraces the "awesome giant Kaiju" instead of making it serious yet boring and still silly as hell like Godzilla 2014. I hope Godzilla 2 continues the trend that Kong seems to be taking. I'm not saying that a serious take can't be made, Shin Gojira did it last year perfectly but G2014 failed at it so it should have fun with its crazy kaiju take instead.

[Turo602]

I thought the movie was cool. I was disappointed at the lack of dinosaurs but then I realized they'd be pretty small in comparison to this new Kong. However, there was a triceratop skull in a scene and that line that Kong was still growing makes me believe that there was a time when Kong was smaller and fighting dinosaurs. Especially since he's been around for a pretty long time.

[Allio]

They didn't even let them use dinosaurs in the movie since Universal told them "we're already doing Dinosaurs in Jurassic World" but....ey


I personally would have liked the replacement "dinosaur" fight be Kong vs Rodan. It doesn't even just have to be a full fight, just good and long enough to hype for Godzilla 2

[TigerClaw]

Saw the movie today, Thought it was good, it was a lot of fun, There's an after credit scene.
The after credit scene sets up Godzilla 2, It hints at other Kaijus like King Ghidorah.

[Turo602]

Saw the movie today, Thought it was good, it was a lot of fun, There's an after credit scene.
The after credit scene sets up Godzilla 2, It hints at other Kaijus like King Ghidorah.

Something I don't get about the post credit scene.
Why are there cave paintings of Godzilla and other monsters? Are they supposed to be ancient?

[TigerClaw]

Something I don't get about the post credit scene.
Why are there cave paintings of Godzilla and other monsters? Are they supposed to be ancient?
Yes they are.

[Andrew NDB]

I thought the cave painting of Godzilla was actually someone photographing part of his back while he was sleeping?

They also give them an "out" to explain the eventual King Kong vs. Godzilla. King Kong? He's "still growing." So presumably by 2017 he is the size of Godzilla? Sheesh.

[Allio]

I thought the cave painting of Godzilla was actually someone photographing part of his back while he was sleeping?

They also give them an "out" to explain the eventual King Kong vs. Godzilla. King Kong? He's "still growing." So presumably by 2017 he is the size of Godzilla? Sheesh.

probably not as big, but at least a good proportionate size.

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Though one good question some have brought up, is there something going on behind the scenes of Monarch. Are we even sure they can be trusted?

[ProactiveMan]

I thought Skull Island was pretty good - I had a great time.

I will say; I think it's time for a moratorium on Creedence Clearwater Revival in Vietnam movies, at least for a little while. They didn't use Fortunate Son I suppose, so it wasn't the biggest cliche possible, but still... try something else.

Ghidorah!

[Allio]

so up to date, King Kong/Godzilla timeline


-1934
A tanker was washed up on Skull Island, probably nothing important

-1943
John Goodman is the sole survivor of a monster attack, and it is covered by the goverment

-1946
Monarch is founded

While the 43 incident probably had a hand in the creation of Monarch, it is worth to note that Monarch was founded prior to the 54 Godzilla incident.

-1954
The first Godzilla incident

-1973
Kong Skull Island
It is mentioned of old cave paintings portraying Godzilla, Rodan, Ghidorah, Mothra

-1999
Meltdown in Japan

-2014
Godzilla

While the 43 incident probably had a hand in the creation of Monarch, it is worth to note that Monarch was founded prior to the 54 Godzilla incident.

Question is what was it that forced the foundation of Monarch, and what attacked in 1943 and if it will be brought back up?

[drgon78]

Just saw it, loved it, can't wait for Godzilla 2 and King Kong vs Godzilla.

[TheCanadiandrome]

doesnt the post credit scene set up for more than Godzilla v KK? Like maybe we're not getting a Godzilla v KK and in fact it'll be more, or maybe this is the start of a series of movies?

[ranger_scout]

I thought it was a great adventure flick. The beginning was kind of dull, but once they got to the island that was where things really started to pick up. I felt like I was there with the group since I was watching it in 3D. John C. Reilly's performance also really stood out.

The post-credits scene really did tie in well with the future of the Monster Universe that Warner Bros. is planning. There are still plenty of more creatures to come.

[TheCanadiandrome]

JCR was hilarious

[snake]

Just got back. Holy sh*t. The visuals, the soundtrack, everything. Absolutely loved it.

This is the first thing newly released in a long time that made me feel like I was watching an actual MOVIE.

[ToTheNines]

Just got back, loved it! The score and soundtrack were great. I'm a big classic rock guy, so it's not like I hadn't heard most of the songs a million times, but still a great selection.

The visuals and effects were great. The whole thing made Peter Jackson's movie look like a pretentious, bloated turd. But it was already that anyways.

The cast was very MCU heavy (even had FAKE Dr. Doom and that Coulson look alike. Plus the Maximoff twins starred in Godzilla, hmm), but I'm not complaining. I think this was the first big movie I've seen Larson in, definitely hype for Captain Marvel. Also crazy how handsome Hiddleston is, they make him so ugly as Loki lol.

I agree with CanadianDrome, JCR was the highlight character. But everyone was awesome, Jackson had a cool arc too.

Pretty frustrating to watch Warner Brothers build this cinematic universe in a natural manner. Good movies leading up tob the crossover event. Pretty simple eh? Then to see how they treat DC... ****. I guess that's just on Snyder and Johns.

[snake]

Yeah, Larson was awesome here.

I never realized how huge her tits were until Kong. Like, they seemed to be the subtle focus of nearly every scene she was in during the 3rd act.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, I didn't notice that until the 3rd either. They threw in a semi-gratuitous wet t-shirt shot too.

[ProphetofGanja]

Just got back, loved it! The score and soundtrack were great. I'm a big classic rock guy, so it's not like I hadn't heard most of the songs a million times, but still a great selection.

The visuals and effects were great. The whole thing made Peter Jackson's movie look like a pretentious, bloated turd. But it was already that anyways.

The cast was very MCU heavy (even had FAKE Dr. Doom and that Coulson look alike. Plus the Maximoff twins starred in Godzilla, hmm), but I'm not complaining. I think this was the first big movie I've seen Larson in, definitely hype for Captain Marvel. Also crazy how handsome Hiddleston is, they make him so ugly as Loki lol.

I agree with CanadianDrome, JCR was the highlight character. But everyone was awesome, Jackson had a cool arc too.

Pretty frustrating to watch Warner Brothers build this cinematic universe in a natural manner. Good movies leading up tob the crossover event. Pretty simple eh? Then to see how they treat DC... ****. I guess that's just on Snyder and Johns.

Finally saw this. I agree, the music choices were great (although what are the odds that any records they brought with them to Skull Island [and also, why?] would have survived Kong's initial attack?)

Jackson's King Kong movie could have been good but he was still stuck in LOTR mode, apparently. Man needs to learn how to make a movie under two hours long.

Everyone was cast pretty well and did a good job in their roles. I wish the island natives had gotten a little more explanation but that's a minor nitpick. John C. Reilly really did stand out. And I liked what Brie Larson did with her character so I'm feeling a lot more optimistic about Captain Marvel now.

Yeah, Larson was awesome here.

I never realized how huge her tits were until Kong. Like, they seemed to be the subtle focus of nearly every scene she was in during the 3rd act.

There are plenty of films out there with gratuitous boob/butt shots but I don't think this was one of them; I think your hormones were just raging, dude.

Anyways, glad I finally saw this. At least an 8.5/10 for me, much better than 2014's Godzilla. Can't wait for the next MontserVerse film now

[Cowabung-Gal]

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Man, Kong was on fire that night, wasn’t he? :lol:

The dude’s expression at 5:33 is HILARIOUS!

[Andrew NDB]

That's got to smell so bad.

[ProphetofGanja]

https://i.imgur.com/glM3HKn.gif