Official 2014 Review Thread

[Andrew Farago]

Just got back from an advance screening and had a great time!

Like most fans, I went in with pretty low expectations, since I'm not really a Michael Bay guy, and the designs and trailers had me skeptical.

That being said, finally getting an extended look at the Turtles in action, I warmed up to the designs a lot more than I thought I would.

The tone of the movie was pretty close to the first live action movie, maybe a little bit lighter, though. There were some funny bits, and the fight scenes were the best we've seen in a Turtles movie.

I don't want to get any more in depth than that for now, since I don't want to spoil anything, but I had fun and I'd definitely recommend it. And even though I'm not a Michael Bay guy, I *am* a Will Arnett guy, and will watch him in just about anything. It was fun seeing him in action, and Megan Fox and Whoopi Goldberg gave great performances, too.

And I don't know if there are any people who watch The View on the Technodrome Forums, but I heard that Megan Fox will be on the show Tuesday promoting the movie (Whoopi's one of the hosts, not coincidentally).

[Jester]

Please start posting reviews here. Please keep discussion to a minimum, just post your thoughts on the film.

[zkarlette]

Putting aside all the things that we had already established were wrong with the film, it turned out to be pretty entertaining. I will see it again when it comes out.

[MastahShredder]

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[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

I couldn't watch the first video...the kid is just flat horrible at reviewing. Maybe he should stick to gaming

[MastahShredder]

I was disappointed with both of them to be honest. Second one is better.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

I was disappointed with both of them to be honest. Second one is better.

I got distracted during the second one and didn't finish it

[OrangeNinja1987]

I liked the second review. Definitely got me even more excited, seeing that it was "near perfect". I can't wait to see it.
But no matter how good the movie is, it won't stop those stupid purist "fans" from ranting about it being slightly different even years from now. People can forgive someone for being wrong, but it takes a lot more character to forgive them for being right. 8)

[TigerClaw]

I liked the second review. Definitely got me even more excited, seeing that it was "near perfect". I can't wait to see it.
But no matter how good the movie is, it won't stop those stupid purist "fans" from ranting about it being slightly different even years from now. People can forgive someone for being wrong, but it takes a lot more character to forgive them for being right. 8)
Yeah, You can say the same about the Nick series, There are those who don't like it, Because it stays a lot away from the original series, Yet it borrows some of its elements. With this new film, Its no different.

We live in a world right now, In which the Nick TMNT sets a new standard, The Kids of this generation will look at this, as there definitive version of TMNT.

Same for the new film, If it becomes a hit, We will see more TMNT films in that universe, for the next couple of years.

[plastroncafe]

the_moviebob: Everyone congratulate M. Night Shayamalan for no longer having made the worst movie tie-in to a Nickelodeon cartoon.

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)

[Xiewin]

Same for the new film, If it becomes a hit, We will see more TMNT films in that universe, for the next couple of years.

I really hope so.

[Candy Kappa]

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)

Ouch... :lol:

[DioLeo451]

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)
Well Damn dude

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)

haha :lol::tlol:

[Xiewin]

I don't see what the big deal is, he didn't like it and so what???

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I don't see what the big deal is, he didn't like it and so what???

Last Air Bender directed by M'night


is held as the worst movie adaptation based of a Nicktoon of all time...Turtles seem to follow that path


M'night changed things for the sake of change,and to make it closer to his veiws and yea

[TurtleMaster4]

Not a big fan of swear words or sex jokes, judging by the trailer I am sure there will be some, without spoiling the movie, how much of should we expect? 10 or more? 20 or more? I just want to know in advance to be prepared.

[Xiewin]

Last Air Bender is held as the worst movie adaptation based of a Nicktoon of all time...Turtles seem to follow that path

Lol I know that I've seen that garbage, but who expected everyone to like this movie?? I don't see how the turtles are following that path of terribleness...

[Puddinpop]

That guy has been apart of the " hate " crew for months now. Doesn't surprise me lol.
Sounds like a gleeful over reaction that wont mean much in the next few days :wink:

[Bry]

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)

http://media1.giphy.com/media/onf5HfQFGBiN2/giphy.gif

I mean, regardless of what side of the fence you're on about this movie... you've gotta admit, that was a good burn.

[Anton Chigurh]

That dudes trying to hard, trying to sound cleaver. But so what the positives still outweighs the negative. Although some ppl are going to praise that post and ignore all the positive reviews, just for the f$&@ of it.

[pdizzle]

That dudes trying to hard, trying to sound cleaver. But so what the positives still outweighs the negative. Although some ppl are going to praise that post and ignore all the positive reviews, just for the f$&@ of it.

Exactly bro. Then again it was a statement as plain as "dope" or "tight" but yet because its towards the negative it has credibility :roll::roll:

[Anton Chigurh]

Exactly bro. Then again it was a statement as plain as "dope" or "tight" but yet because its towards to negative it has credibility :roll::roll:

Yep and bad reviews have been far and few, so ppl are going to hang on them like their bible versus.

[MrTMNT2012]

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)

NOTHING will be as bad as The Last Airbender ok! NOTHING!

The things that movie did to the art of film in general was abysmal. At worst TMNT will just turn out to be an overly dumb blockbuster with obnoxious comedy.

Not degrading film in general or anything like Last Airbender...

[Puddinpop]

Exactly bro. Then again it was a statement as plain as "dope" or "tight" but yet because its towards the negative it has credibility :roll::roll:

:lol: funny how that is huh? You hit the nail on the head my friend. Good thing the guy doesn't listen to metal :lol:

[NinjaPug]

I laughed

“@mousterpiece: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: It's not a good thing when a movie's CGI reminds you of Mars Needs Moms. No thanks.”

[Bry]

To be fair, Twitter comments aren't really reviews. A review is a formal analysis. Twitter comments are impressions, at most.

[Anton Chigurh]

To be fair, Twitter comments aren't really reviews. A review is a formal analysis. Twitter comments are impressions, at most.

You know what we mean.

[Puddinpop]

You know what we mean.

It's ok dude.. this is a thread for " Reviews ".. or so I thought. So we now have a few folks looking for the very few negative quotes they can find on twitter lol. Come next week.. if we are posting twitter reactions in this thread then that's perfectly fine with me. :wink:

[Galactus]

At worst TMNT will just turn out to be an overly dumb blockbuster with obnoxious comedy.

Given the numbers it's been predicted to make I'd say describing it as a "blockbuster" is more than a little premature.

[pdizzle]

It's ok dude.. this is a thread for " Reviews ".. or so I thought. So we now have a few folks looking for the very few negative quotes they can find on twitter lol. Come next week.. if we are posting twitter reactions in this thread then that's perfectly fine with me. :wink:

:lol: yea right bro. If we did that they would just get deleted cause we dont have that kind of pull around here.





Given the numbers it's been predicted to make I'd say describing it as a "blockbuster" is more than a little premature.

Then again so is some peoples disdain for this movie

[Jester]

Bob's got more:
*To reviewers of certain things green and nostalgic: You're going to need a bigger boat. Seriously. You have NO IDEA what's coming.

*Awful as an adaptation (EASILY the worst version of ____ ever) but even if it were an original thing, it would be horrid.

*Also: If you're review of ____ is "Well, it's for the kids?" You're just telling me you don't think much of "the kids."

[CyberCubed]

Surprised the reviews are so poor. Non-turtle fans wouldn't be up in arms about nostrils, human lips, and Eric Sachs like we all are.

[Autbot_Benz]

Surprised the reviews are so poor. Non-turtle fans wouldn't be up in arms about nostrils, human lips, and Eric Sachs like we all are.

your the only one obssessed with the nostrils and human lips you bring it up in every movie thread on here we get it.

[plastroncafe]

I linked to Movie Bob's Twitter because he's a film critic. A film critic who not too long ago made a whole Vid dedicated to telling people to lay off Michael Bay.
And that is a pretty damning comparison he's just made.

I, for one, am very interested in his full video review.

[Jester]

I linked to Movie Bob's Twitter because he's a film critic. A film critic who not too long ago made a whole Vid dedicated to telling people to lay off Michael Bay.
And that is a pretty damning comparison he's just made.

I, for one, am very interested in his full video review.
Bob's about the only critic I listen to anymore, since Ebert died. Though I may not always agree with him, I do always respect his opinion.

[MrTMNT2012]

Nick Mundy (ScreenJunkies) went to town with the original TMNT (1990) Movie!

He was reviewing it in preparation for the new film and he freaking DESTROYED IT!

[plastroncafe]

Bob's about the only critic I listen to anymore, since Ebert died. Though I may not always agree with him, I do always respect his opinion.

Ditto.
Plus...I have to admit I get more than a bit of Townie Pride when he gets so worked up his Masshole shows.

[Redeemer]

Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/495594881549869056)

I don't take much stock into what he is saying. Bc I believe he is comparing the new TMNT movie to the Nick Cartoon. The reason I believe this is bc he was comparing it to the Last Airbender Movie. He is basically comparing the New movie to the New Cartoon hence the word "Tie-in" Movie.
But then again I could be out in left field this

[Xiewin]

Nick Mundy (ScreenJunkies) went to town with the original TMNT (1990) Movie!

He was reviewing it in preparation for the new film and he freaking DESTROYED IT!

Yeah, apparently this guy REALLY hates the original.


Nick Mundy @dickfundy
My whole point of this is your bitching about a new movie that may be ****, but the one you hold a candle to is in actuality, a **** movie.

Interesting thing about last night was when you guys we're laughing at what I saying not realizing I was talking about your beloved original

Yeah, some of you don't realize that i was talking about the 1990 TNMT movie. It's bad, really bad. #TNMTMovie

wow.

[TigerClaw]

Tomorrow, The Embargo for the TMNT Movie review will be lifted, and I know Collider will have a review since ColliderFrosty seen it.

[Jester]

My whole point of this is your bitching about a new movie that may be ****, but the one you hold a candle to is in actuality, a **** movie.

Interesting thing about last night was when you guys we're laughing at what I saying not realizing I was talking about your beloved original

Yeah, some of you don't realize that i was talking about the 1990 TNMT movie. It's bad, really bad. #TNMTMovie
Seems like a credible source....

[Puddinpop]

How did a thread for " reviews " turn into a " Bob hates TMNT " thread? lol
That's interesting

[CyberCubed]

Have any official reviews popped up yet? I want to read all of them.

[Bry]

I think I'm looking forward to the reactions to the reviews more than I am the reviews themselves.

[Leo656]

Have any official reviews popped up yet? I want to read all of them.

Looking to rent a few opinions, I take it? :lol:

Nah, I'm curious myself. I just like knowing what people think, I almost never agree with them.

[AquaParade]

The stigma that reading reviews means you can't think for yourself is sort of narrow minded. I love reading reviews before or after experiencing entertainment. Comparing thoughts and trying to adapt to new perspectives can be enjoyable.

[Leo656]

Oh definitely. But CC kinda has a thing for co-opting opinions on things he has no intention of ever seeing for himself, so I like to poke him a little, that's all. ;)

I love reviews as entertainment, totally. Sometimes they make me realize things I hadn't realized before, so they can definitely expand your perspective on the whole experience. To a lot of people, though, anything less than four stars is a recommendation to skip, and I hate that. I read a ton of stuff but nothing ever made me change my mind about whether I liked something or not. It's all just entertainment, to me.

[Bmaga123]

3 pages in and only 2 reviews :-(

[Warhorse]

I thought the embargo was to lift today.:-?

[TigerClaw]

They just released a Critics TV Spot, Though only showing one Critic praising the movie with the quote. "a Fantastic Time at the Movies" And its from a Joel D Amos from Movie Fanatics. But I dont see a review from it anywhere, It'll probably get posted later or something.

[Vicky82]

I thought the embargo was to lift today.:-?

Well we had our 1st critics tv spot so I guess the embargo could be lifting at any time now, just keep your eyes open.

[Vicky82]

Another video review, I only watched the 1st minute and this guy looks stoned.

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[graphic_content]

Another video review, I only watched the 1st minute and this guy looks stoned.

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Stopped about after 1 min in, everyone is entitled to their opinion but not everyone should be a film critic.

[pdizzle]

Stopped about after 1 min in, everyone is entitled to their opinion but not everyone should be a film critic.

Same here...... and agreed

[DioLeo451]

Another video review, I only watched the 1st minute and this guy looks stoned.

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Meh:ohwell:

[TigerClaw]

Your always gonna find movie reviews on youtube by just normal people who seen it, Sooner or later, You'll see the ones that are better produced show up.

[Warhorse]

Your always gonna find movie reviews on youtube by just normal people who seen it, Sooner or later, You'll see the ones that are better produced show up.

Only one I am waiting for would be JeremyJahns. He usually gives some decent reviews. Usually. And when he really likes a movie, he really gives it this impression that it is the most awesome thing out there, when really it isn't. But, I still like his hyper attitude vs the doom and gloom from most critics.

[DioLeo451]

Only one I am waiting for would be JeremyJahns. He usually gives some decent reviews. Usually. And when he really likes a movie, he really gives it this impression that it is the most awesome thing out there, when really it isn't. But, I still like his hyper attitude vs the doom and gloom from most critics.
Yeah Me too

[TigerClaw]

Only one I am waiting for would be JeremyJahns. He usually gives some decent reviews. Usually. And when he really likes a movie, he really gives it this impression that it is the most awesome thing out there, when really it isn't. But, I still like his hyper attitude vs the doom and gloom from most critics.
Also Black Nerd, Would like to see hear his review of the film too.

[Warhorse]

Also Black Nerd, Would like to see hear his review of the film too.

Yes, and maybe the Shmoes, but sometimes the Shmoes are more annoying than helpful.

I did like The Black Nerd's point of looking at this as another dimension of the TMNT world, which we got a hint of in the Nick toon. I like this theory, because I would love to see some sort of interaction with the movie Turtles vs the Nick Turtles in the future.

[Puddinpop]

Another video review, I only watched the 1st minute and this guy looks stoned.

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Ut Oh... It has it's share fair of Flaws :lol:
Between this kid and the other one I'm not sure which one made my ears bleed more. Absolutely painful.

[Addison81]

This film will get bad reviews. You can tell most critics were looking down at it before they even saw it. How many reviews are going to compare it to GOTG and say something like "just go see GOTG again". I'm just looking for a fun movie with some good action with the turtle personalities I grew up with. So when this is at a 40% Rotten Tomato score I won't be surprised or discouraged. It's already at a 63 on the Critics Choice site.

[TigerClaw]

Yes, and maybe the Shmoes, but sometimes the Shmoes are more annoying than helpful.

I did like The Black Nerd's point of looking at this as another dimension of the TMNT world, which we got a hint of in the Nick toon. I like this theory, because I would love to see some sort of interaction with the movie Turtles vs the Nick Turtles in the future.
And hopefully not from Red Letter Media, I don't really like there reviews, They are too nit picky about things.

[Xiewin]

This film will get bad reviews. You can tell most critics were looking down at it before they even saw it. How many reviews are going to compare it to GOTG and say something like "just go see GOTG again". I'm just looking for a fun movie with some good action with the turtle personalities I grew up with. So when this is at a 40% Rotten Tomato score I won't be surprised or discouraged. It's already at a 63 on the Critics Choice site.

Yeah I'm not expecting this film to get a good score on rotten tomatoes. It's probably will get an 50 or 40% on the site.

[DioLeo451]

Yeah I'm not expecting this film to get a good score on rotten tomatoes. It's probably will get an 50 or 40% on the site.
Pretty Much

[Bry]

And hopefully not from Red Letter Media, I don't really like there reviews, They are too nit picky about things.

They're very smart, though. They know their stuff when it comes to storytelling, and when they get in-depth (the legendary Star Wars prequel reviews) they tend to give plenty of points and observations to really think about.

[graphic_content]

Only one I am waiting for would be JeremyJahns. He usually gives some decent reviews. Usually. And when he really likes a movie, he really gives it this impression that it is the most awesome thing out there, when really it isn't. But, I still like his hyper attitude vs the doom and gloom from most critics.

I follow the guy pretty religiously bc he's honest, and genuinely funny. I have a feeling he is gonna tear apart the Turtles, but still want to hear his opinion.

[Rooish]

No one actually expects this to get good reviews do they? The last movie got like 35% on Rotten Tomatoes. Reviewers have never liked TMNT. The general audience who was not familiar with TMNT will rightly think the premise is ridiculous. This film is going to rely on people who loved TMNT as kids and can get behind the designs.

Is this thread for our reviews as board members? Or for those of random assholes on Twitter? Just wondering.

[Jester]

A little of both, really.

[Commenter 42]

Saw GOTG last night. Wasn't bad, but a little over hyped. Definately more of a kids film than anything, aside from some overtly adult moments.

I've got an advanced screening of TMNT ticket. I really don't want to see this movie, at all, but the tickets free. I'll post if i decide to attend.

If it is good, at all, I'll be honest. I just can't imagine it will be.

[Warhorse]

I follow the guy pretty religiously bc he's honest, and genuinely funny. I have a feeling he is gonna tear apart the Turtles, but still want to hear his opinion.

So far, the only thing he seemed to be displeased about was Megan Fox being April, other than that, he seemed to be cool with everything else.

No one actually expects this to get good reviews do they? The last movie got like 35% on Rotten Tomatoes. Reviewers have never liked TMNT. The general audience who was not familiar with TMNT will rightly think the premise is ridiculous. This film is going to rely on people who loved TMNT as kids and can get behind the designs.

Is this thread for our reviews as board members? Or for those of random assholes on Twitter? Just wondering.

I wonder what it was about the TMNT the critics disliked? Did they ever elaborate?

[Bry]

I wonder what it was about the TMNT the critics disliked? Did they ever elaborate?

Honestly? Their movie history is spotty at best. I think the first movie is solidly good, but the second one is kinda plagued with moments of cartoonish idiocy (though it has its bright spots), and the third... well, we all know about the third.

I honestly feel that if the first movie were released 10-15 years later that it was, it would have had much better reviews. Comic movies with "ridiculous" premises have become much more accepted on their own merits than they were back then.

[Vulkanthekrusader]

Jo-Blo Review. 6 out of 10.

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[Puddinpop]

Jo-Blo Review. 6 out of 10.

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Here ya go bud :wink:

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Jo-Blo Review. 6 out of 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_6MYtXNX_A&feature=youtu.be&a

that awkward moment where you read "J-Lo" and question since when has jennifer lopez started reviewing movies

a sign i should go to bed..ill have to check these out in the morning

[Addison81]

http://www.hitfix.com:80/motion-captured/review-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-gets-the-characters-relationships-right-at-least?hf_exp=social_title_off&title=Review%3A%20'Teenage%20Mutant%20Ninja%20Turt les'%20gets%20the%20characters%20relationships%20r ight%20at%20least

[Jester]

Emily Laird said on FB:
we loved it! Such a fun movie.

[Puddinpop]

http://www.hitfix.com:80/motion-captured/review-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-gets-the-characters-relationships-right-at-least?hf_exp=social_title_off&title=Review%3A%20'Teenage%20Mutant%20Ninja%20Turt les'%20gets%20the%20characters%20relationships%20r ight%20at%20least

Ultimately, if you're an adult who is upset about the finer details of a movie in which turtles do kung-fu and eat pizza and ride skateboards, you may want to take a step back and ask yourself why. Nostalgia? Sure, I know there is an entire generation that stubbornly wraps itself in the things they enjoyed as kids and believe that is what defines them, but at some point, don't you feel ridiculous about watching the same ridiculous story over and over?
That is the million dollar question :lol:


I find it sort of amazing we went seven years between any bigscreen incarnation of "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." I thought the animated film "TMNT" was a fairly charming take on the characters, and it managed to do the same thing right that the new film does: it nicely establishes and then plays off of the relationships between the four brothers.

As a movie, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" is about as predictable as movies get these days. Once again, a film ends with a bad guy's scheme involving a glowing doodad on a rooftop and people hanging off of things one-handed, and I couldn't care any less about any of that. The film plays fast and loose with established mythology, making April O'Neil far more important to the lives of the Turtles than ever before, and the main result is it makes the world feel much smaller. Everything is related. There is nothing coincidental about April and the Turtles ending up together, and if that drives you crazy, then this may not be the "Turtles" movie for you.

In this new film, April (Megan Fox) is trying to make her bones as a crime reporter even though she's stuck doing cutesy lifestyle pieces for the Channel 6 news. The only person who seems to believe in her is Vernon Fenwick, and when she starts trying to chase down a big story about The Foot Clan, Vernon helps her.

Her efforts to crack the story bring her into contact with the Turtles, and from the moment they're introduced, the film pretty much leans heavily on the family dynamics of the Turtles and their sensei, Master Splinter. They argue, they make jokes, and at the appropriate time, Raphael declares himself finished with everyone. Throw in a pumped up version of The Shredder, and that's pretty much the entire movie. There's a bad guy hiding in plain sight, and all secrets are revealed at just the right time, and it all seems to be very easy.

The greatest thing this film brings to the table is a kinetic fighting style that makes the Turtles seem like they are actual physical threats to the bad guys. There are three big action scenes where the film kicks into a higher degree of fun that, taken together, add up to just enough of a thrill for me to recommend the film. There's one in particular that is inventive and impressive, and if the whole movie had been able to demonstrate that same level of energy, then I might be more enthusiastic about it.

Technically, the film is solid across the board. The character work on the Turtles (design quibbles aside) is actually pretty well-done, and the same is true of Splinter. My kids had a great time with it, and since it feels to me like they are the exact target audience, I'll call that a success. I can honestly say I was there at the very beginning of this long weird phenomenon, thanks to my friend Bill Rosemann. He was the comic nerd in our neighborhood, just like I was the movie nerd, and he told me the week it came out that I should buy a copy of the very first black-and-white comic featuring the characters. I remember thinking how very silly it was, and how it felt like they were making fun of comics in general, trying to be more ridiculous than anything else. This film barely resembles the story and the characters in that first comic, which is why I can't get to worked up about "continuity." This property has been through so many incarnations at this point that there is no single version. It all depends on how you experienced it the first time, and as someone who's seen all of these various incarnations, this one seems to be respectful of the source material and the Turtles, and there's not much more you can ask.

Director Jonathan Liebesman couldn't have had it easy here with the Platinum Dunes/Michael Bay combination riding herd as producers. They can be incredibly demanding and specific, and they've driven other filmmakers crazy at times. Liebesman seems to have come to this ready to play, and at its best, "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turles" shares something very important with last weekend's "Guardians Of The Galaxy": it is fun. That fun is something that a lot of big summer movies lack these days, and while it doesn't totally add up as a movie, I think the audiences that are excited to see it will walk away satisfied.

There's a poster quote for you, eh?

Decent review

[Xiewin]

6 out of 10? Wow that set a new record for Johnathan Liebesman's directed films lol

[TigerClaw]

6 out of 10? Wow that set a new record for Johnathan Liebesman's directed films lol
a 6 ain't bad at all, To them, That's saying its Good, Who watches a TMNT movie for oscar caliber performances? hah

[Addison81]

It's sounding like what I was expecting, a fun popcorn movie. Which is fine with me. I wouldn't mind a smarter script but at the end of the day I want a fun TMNT movie.

[Xiewin]

Is there a reason why the film had to be limited to a 100 minute runtime?

[TigerClaw]

It's sounding like what I was expecting, a fun popcorn movie. Which is fine with me. I wouldn't mind a smarter script but at the end of the day I want a fun TMNT movie.
Yeah, Just like the original movies were, Fun popcorn flicks, Not to be taken so seriously.

Is there a reason why the film had to be limited to a 100 minute runtime?
We still dont have an official runtime, Rotten Tomatoes is still showing it as 2 hours.

[Warhorse]

Is there a reason why the film had to be limited to a 100 minute runtime?

Word is, they can get more showings in a day with a shorter movie. In this day and age where the majority of the movies are so front loaded, I guess each hour in the day counts for money earned by the studios. Not to mention, there is also this thing about movies being marketed to kids that shorter is better, considering we are dealing with smaller attention spans and bladders.

Of course, this is all hypothetical with no concrete evidence.

[Puddinpop]

6 out of 10? Wow that set a new record for Johnathan Liebesman's directed films lol

I think this will undoubtedly be his best film to date

[Jester]

Can I say that I loathe the argument "Who watches ________ for Oscar-caliber performances?" Is it really so terrible to expect decent acting in any movie, especially one you have a vested interest in? Besides, Heath Ledger earned his posthumous Oscar for a dopey super hero movie role....so it just seems a bit disingenuous. Then again who really takes the Oscars seriously anymore anyway?

[Warhorse]

We still dont have an official runtime, Rotten Tomatoes is still showing it as 2 hours.

Didn't the director confirm on twitter that the movie was going to be under 100 minutes?

[TigerClaw]

It'll be interesting to see where this film lands in the Rotten Tomato Meter.

TMNT 1990 = 45%
TMNT 2 1991 = 36%
TMNT 3 1993 = 27%
TMNT 2007 = 34%

[Xiewin]

Word is, they can get more showings in a day with a shorter movie. In this day and age where the majority of the movies are so front loaded, I guess each hour in the day counts for money earned by the studios. Not to mention, there is also this thing about movies being marketed to kids that shorter is better, considering we are dealing with smaller attention spans and bladders.

Of course, this is all hypothetical with no concrete evidence.

Even so it's still an terrible move. I wonder how much story and other extra scenes were cut from this movie? It kind of frustrating when this could have easily been 2 hours. It also could have probably gotten higher ratings.

[Bmaga123]

It'll be interesting to see where this film lands in the Rotten Tomato Meter.

TMNT 1990 = 45%
TMNT 2 1991 = 36%
TMNT 3 1993 = 27%
TMNT 2007 = 34%

My prediction is around 40%.

[TigerClaw]

My prediction is around 40%.
with the 1st film having a higher rating at 45%, It'll be interesting to see if it can top that.

[Addison81]

A blogger I follow just tweeted TMNT>GOTG. He is going to get people outraged haha.

[Warhorse]

Even so it's still an terrible move. I wonder how much story and other extra scenes were cut from this movie? It kind of frustrating when this could have easily been 2 hours. It also could have probably gotten higher ratings.

Yeah, someone is going to get short changed in the end. It will probably be Donny.

[DioLeo451]

Jo-Blo Review. 6 out of 10.

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'' It's going to piss off the hardcore fanbase'' You mean the hardcore fanbase you just Misinformed dude?:x

[Jester]

'' It's going to piss off the hardcore fanbase'' You mean the hardcore fanbase you just Misinformed dude?:x
Say what now?

[AquaParade]

Yes. Say what.

[CyberCubed]

It'll be interesting to see where this film lands in the Rotten Tomato Meter.

TMNT 1990 = 45%
TMNT 2 1991 = 36%
TMNT 3 1993 = 27%
TMNT 2007 = 34%

The fact that even the first film only has a 45% on rottentomatoes shows their bias against TMNT movies.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Jo-Blo Review. 6 out of 10.

j_6MYtXNX_A

I can't stand critics who use snarky reasons like "Whoopi Goldberg is in this for some reason". And he said William Fichtner is one of the greatest badguys of all time but not in this movie? What other movie is a bad guy in, let alone IN. I only know him from The Dark Knight as the bank manager who yells "YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAD". The main theme of every review, critic or regular viewer, that I've seen is that the Turtles are great in this. That's all I need to hear.

The fact that even the first film only has a 45% on rottentomatoes shows their bias against TMNT movies.

The fact TMNT III has 27% shows we shouldn't care what the scores are. TMNT III should be 0%.

[Jester]

That also neglects the "audience scores":
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: 81%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: 68%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: 35%
TMNT: 61%
Back then critics weren't ready for comic book movies then...and TMNT as a franchise was only 5 years old when the 1st film hit. There are variables. Now critics could be Turtle fans. I mean....I'm 30. If I could figure out how to make the leap to that career field, I'd totally do it.

[DioLeo451]

Say what now?
He's telling people that the film will piss you off if you're a hardcore fan but I'm willing to bet he doesn't even know what that truly means

[Warhorse]

I can't stand critics who use snarky reasons like "Whoopi Goldberg is in this for some reason". And he said William Fichtner is one of the greatest badguys of all time but not in this movie? What other movie is a bad guy in, let alone IN. I only know him from The Dark Knight as the bank manager who yells "YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ARE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAD". The main theme of every review, critic or regular viewer, that I've seen is that the Turtles are great in this. That's all I need to hear.

William Fichtner is known to play bad guys, so I can see why he said that. He was the villain in last year's The Lone Ranger, he was somewhat of a bad guy in Pearl Harbor, he was quite the dick in A Perfect Storm, he was really good at playing both sides in Invasion, and he was a crazy ass villain in Prison Break.

He's telling people that the film will piss you off if you're a hardcore fan but I'm willing to bet he doesn't even know what that truly means

What is a hard core fan when it comes to TMNT? Is it the ones that are the comic book fans? The ones that are the Fred Wolf fans?

[TigerClaw]

That also neglects the "audience scores":
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: 81%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: 68%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: 35%
TMNT: 61%
Back then critics weren't ready for comic book movies then...and TMNT as a franchise was only 5 years old when the 1st film hit. There are variables. Now critics could be Turtle fans. I mean....I'm 30. If I could figure out how to make the leap to that career field, I'd totally do it.
I'm 41 and still a Turtles fan.

[TigerClaw]

William Fichtner is known to play bad guys, so I can see why he said that. He was the villain in last year's The Lone Ranger, he was somewhat of a bad guy in Pearl Harbor, he was quite the dick in A Perfect Storm, he was really good at playing both sides in Invasion, and he was a crazy ass villain in Prison Break.



What is a hard core fan when it comes to TMNT? Is it the ones that are the comic book fans? The ones that are the Fred Wolf fans?
I think a Hardcore fan means, You like all versions of TMNT that they throw at you, Comics, TV, Movies, Video Games, Whatever.

[DioLeo451]

What is a hard core fan when it comes to TMNT? Is it the ones that are the comic book fans? The ones that are the Fred Wolf fans?[/QUOTE]


Dude anything Let's take the new film off that subject anything from the Comics,cartoons new and old ,original movies, tv shows,toys you name it

[Warhorse]

I think a Hardcore fan means, You like all versions of TMNT that they throw at you, Comics, TV, Movies, Video Games, Whatever.

Then what are the TMNT fans who are not liking the new movie because of white Shredder, the Turtles being grown in a lab instead of being completely unknown, April having possible blood connections to Baxter, the Turtles not being short, at all of that other stuff (mind you, I'm not one of them, I'm just not a fan of the clothing, some of the faces and Raph's too big of a size, and the fart and subtle sex jokes, I wasn't OK with it in the past, and I'm still not ok with it today)

And so, if hard core is considered anyone who liked all of the comics, shows games and whatnot, what would it be about this new movie to piss those people off?

[TigerClaw]

Then what are the TMNT fans who are not liking the new movie because of white Shredder, the Turtles being grown in a lab instead of being completely unknown, April having possible blood connections to Baxter, the Turtles not being short, at all of that other stuff (mind you, I'm not one of them, I'm just not a fan of the clothing, some of the faces and Raph's too big of a size, and the fart and subtle sex jokes, I wasn't OK with it in the past, and I'm still not ok with it today)

And so, if hard core is considered anyone who liked all of the comics, shows games and whatnot, what would it be about this new movie to piss those people off?
I guess there are different levels of hardcore fans, Some are very deep into the lore of it.

[Jester]

Just because it's Turtles doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to its quality.

Next Mutation has it's moments, but for the most part it's lousy. Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas are the worst....

[Warhorse]

Just because it's Turtles doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to its quality.

Next Mutation has it's moments, but for the most part it's lousy. Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas are the worst....

I was lucky, and missed out on all of the Next Mutation. (I think I was entering highschool at the time, and that wasn't a pleasant experience) but what is Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas? Never heard that one before.

[TigerClaw]

I was lucky, and missed out on all of the Next Mutation. (I think I was entering highschool at the time, and that wasn't a pleasant experience) but what is Turtle Tunes and Turtle Christmas? Never heard that one before.
Here you go.

yBL8vNG8WRc

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[Artist]

Then what are the TMNT fans who are not liking the new movie because of white Shredder, the Turtles being grown in a lab instead of being completely unknown, April having possible blood connections to Baxter, the Turtles not being short, at all of that other stuff (mind you, I'm not one of them, I'm just not a fan of the clothing, some of the faces and Raph's too big of a size, and the fart and subtle sex jokes, I wasn't OK with it in the past, and I'm still not ok with it today)

And so, if hard core is considered anyone who liked all of the comics, shows games and whatnot, what would it be about this new movie to piss those people off?

I think he was talking about the, " the origin has to stay the exact same or else" hard core fans IMO. Evidence: he states it right after talking about the origin story not being the same. I think hard core fan is a TMNT fan in general. Some one willing to be on this board and talk TMNT. Was wondering if you laughed at the Jizz joke in GOTG or did you also find that kinda wrong?

[Warhorse]

Here you go.

yBL8vNG8WRc

Cjit0hlj04s

Now I know why I skipped this sh!t!

I think he was talking about the, " the origin has to stay the exact same or else" hard core fans IMO. Evidence: he states it right after talking about the origin story not being the same. I think hard core fan is a TMNT fan in general. Some one willing to be on this board and talk TMNT. Was wondering if you laughed at the Jizz joke in GOTG or did you also find that kinda wrong?

I honestly don't remember that in GOTG, but there were several jokes that me and the rest of the audience just didn't laugh to. That joke might have been one of the jokes that flew over our heads, or we didn't quite understand because the actors were mumbling. Some of the dialogue from Drax was hard for me to understand because he mumbled more than talked.

[DioLeo451]

Here you go.

yBL8vNG8WRc

Cjit0hlj04s
Oh God No The Horror (Dramatic female scream)

[Artist]

I honestly don't remember that in GOTG, but there were several jokes that me and the rest of the audience just didn't laugh to. That joke might have been one of the jokes that flew over our heads, or we didn't quite understand because the actors were mumbling. Some of the dialogue from Drax was hard for me to understand because he mumbled more than talked.

When Gamora tells him (starlord) the ship is dirty, and he says, " If you took a black light to this place it would look like a Jackson Pollock painting." I laughed my a$$ off, and so did the audience, with one of those ewwwww laughs.

[beeshaw]

I honestly don't remember that in GOTG, but there were several jokes that me and the rest of the audience just didn't laugh to. That joke might have been one of the jokes that flew over our heads, or we didn't quite understand because the actors were mumbling. Some of the dialogue from Drax was hard for me to understand because he mumbled more than talked.

Jizz joke in GotG-

Gamora tells Quill his ship is filthy then she heads up stairs (butt shot!). Quill looks over and says 'You have no idea... if I had a black light this place would light up like a Jackson Pollack painting.'


It honestly got the 2nd biggest laugh both times I saw it. Other biggest being Groot's smile during his big fight scene.

[Warhorse]

When Gamora tells him (starlord) the ship is dirty, and he says, " If you took a black light to this place it would look like a Jackson Pollock painting." I laughed my a$$ off, and so did the audience, with one of those ewwwww laughs.

Yeah, don't remember this one.

[DioLeo451]

[QUOTE=beeshaw;1321061]Jizz joke in GotG-

Gamora tells Quill his ship is filthy then she heads up stairs (butt shot!). Quill looks over and says 'You have no idea... if I had a black light this place would light up like a Jackson Pollack painting.'

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130212144517/glee/images/b/b9/Ew.gif :lol:

[Artist]

Jizz joke in GotG-

Gamora tells Quill his ship is filthy then she heads up stairs (butt shot!). Quill looks over and says 'You have no idea... if I had a black light this place would light up like a Jackson Pollack painting.'


It honestly got the 2nd biggest laugh both times I saw it. Other biggest being Groot's smile during his big fight scene.

That was funny. And going through art school, boy did it hit home ha ha

[beeshaw]

That was funny. And going through art school, boy did it hit home ha ha

Most people started laughing as soon as he said blacklight, but then that second level of laughter kicked in for those who got it. lol

ANYWAYS..Ninja Turtle Reviews.... :tcouch:

[LeoRaph]

Found this one on imdb from The Wrap

http://www.thewrap.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-review-michael-bay-megan-fox/

At least the story sequence in the spolier thread is bang on and megan fox isn't all that bad...

[Artist]

Found this one on imdb from The Wrap

http://www.thewrap.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-review-michael-bay-megan-fox/

At least the story sequence in the spolier thread is bang on and megan fox isn't all that bad...

Well that dude is really hard to please ha ha He even gave a pretty bad review for Dawn of the planet of the apes. But knowing Megan Fox was ok(ish) is kinda pleasing.

[rufus]

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/406741


http://variety.com/2014/film/reviews/film-review-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1201274733/
"Neither a particularly good movie nor the pop-cultural travesty that some were dreading."

[Bmaga123]

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/406741


http://variety.com/2014/film/reviews/film-review-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1201274733/
"Neither a particularly good movie nor the pop-cultural travesty that some were dreading."

Nice, so the top review says 2 hours and 2nd says 101 minutes which I assume is accurate.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Found this one on imdb from The Wrap

http://www.thewrap.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-review-michael-bay-megan-fox/

At least the story sequence in the spolier thread is bang on and megan fox isn't all that bad...

Now Rafael, Leonardo, Donatello, and Michelangelo are back — along with their rat mentor Splitter and their evil nemeses The Shredder and his deadly Foot Clan — and I wish I could say this big-budget reboot was more fun than it actually is.

This review is disqualified...Splitter....haha

[Warboss74]

This review is disqualified...Splitter....haha
It was a typo as he correctly spells Splinter later in the review.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

It was a typo as he correctly spells Splinter later in the review.

I was kidding...but in all seriousness, these people are paid to hate movies. I don't know why anyone listens to what they have to say, I bet they have most of their review written out before even going to see it. I'd rather listen to a person who paid to see something, and has a quick answer if they liked it. I don't need a 1000 words for a movie review.

[LeoRaph]

We Finally HAVE Shredder according to Variety

Tohoru Masamune - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0556070

[Warboss74]

I was kidding...but in all seriousness, these people are paid to hate movies. I don't know why anyone listens to what they have to say, I bet they have most of their review written out before even going to see it. I'd rather listen to a person who paid to see something, and has a quick answer if they liked it. I don't need a 1000 words for a movie review. They're not paid to hate movies, but to be analytical in most cases. They certainly have their biases with what they deem good cinema, and that should always be factored in when read in the reviews. The review is there to explain why the film did or didn't work for a particular reviewer although some use it as open Mic night at the comedy club.

From what we're hearing/reading from the people who have seen the film, it's exactly like I expected it to be which is a train wreck of a TMNT film. It sounds like there might be some entertainment value if I can shut out the issues I already have. Guardians was as good as I thought it was going to be, and it has me contemplating buying another ticket for it to see this train wreck without financially supporting it.

[Artist]

It is funny how some of his grips (Variety reviewer) is just opinion based. Nothing solid is established of why, but only hey I didn't like it. The looks of the turtles are ugly. Why? Bc they don't look as engaging as the 90's rubber suits do? Why? Bc they are ugly. Its not funny. Why? Bc it is not sophisticated? Why? Bc it is not funny. He went to this movie looking for Bayisms. O look an explosion, that must be Bay. O look an action sequence with innocent bystanders, must be Bay. The guy from the wrap I believe more. This guy just sounds like a Bay basher.

[Werecat]

This review is disqualified...Splitter....haha

So peeps are just gonna ignore the obvious Rafael typo too? Already that critic proved to be inept.

[Candy Kappa]

Rafael was the official spelling in Norway.

[Bry]

lGuardians was as good as I thought it was going to be, and it has me contemplating buying another ticket for it to see this train wreck without financially supporting it.

That's my plan if I bother seeing this in the theatre. Though I may just decide to see Guardians again at the last minute instead. ;)

So peeps are just gonna ignore the obvious Rafael typo too? Already that critic proved to be inept.

Misspelling a character's name doesn't invalidate everything else they write.

[Glados]

Rafael was the official spelling in Norway.

This! I never flinch when I see his name spelled like that...

[Candy Kappa]

Ralph on the other hand :lol:

Or Mickey... or Leon.

[LeoRaph]

Another one

http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/5075865.articlehttp://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/5075865.article

Ralph....I still don't get how people get that wrong

Leon - Variation of Leonardo, Mickey just another Variation but Ralph??? Boggles the mind...

[TigerClaw]

We Finally HAVE Shredder according to Variety

Tohoru Masamune - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0556070
Interesting, But it looks like hes not being credited for it?

[LeoRaph]

Secret Credit to give the fans a surprise for the final movie because of last minute reshoots. I'm sure he has the credit in the movie otherwise how did Screen Daily and Variety find his name? He was also at the Red Carpet event.

[Bry]

Another one

http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/5075865.article

Solid review. Confirms some of my fears, but also takes care to explain and justify its criticisms. I liked this bit in particular:

In the past, the Turtles’ appeal has been their lovable outcast status: These four oddballs are as insecure as typical teenagers, but because of their mutant strangeness, they’re even more outsiders, only having each other to rely on. Additionally, as the property’s title suggests, the material wielded a goofy, crowd-pleasing tone, delivering kung-fu fun while also acknowledging the grinning absurdity of the whole endeavour.

He really seems to get and respect what makes the TMNT work, which gives his whole analysis more weight, IMO.

Also, he made sure to credit Pete Ploszek and Danny Woodburn as the primary actors in their roles, which I feel like a lot of people are going to forget or gloss over. That was nice to see.

[TigerClaw]

Normally I don't go by whats in the reviews, Cause they often get too technical and deep about the films they review. All I care about, Is the movie fun and enjoyable? These are stuff reserved for Film Snobs, Which I am not.

One of these reviews, The JoBlo review says that, Its a Fun Popcorn Movie, That's all I needed to hear. :)

[DioLeo451]

Another one

http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/5075865.articlehttp://www.screendaily.com/reviews/the-latest/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles/5075865.article

Ralph....I still don't get how people get that wrong

Leon - Variation of Leonardo, Mickey just another Variation but Ralph??? Boggles the mind...
wow so this movie lacks both the charm and heart of the franchise because bay has his fingerprints all over it...I'm done:ohwell:

[Xiewin]

I don't get why people go by what critics or other online reviews say. There are ton of movies that are repeatedly bashed by critics and I enjoy them very much.
Critics aren't always right lol, it's the same mistake I made with GOTG or any other over hyped film.

[NinjaPug]

So the reviews are averaging out at around a C grade or 6/10 with the consensus being it's not as terrible as originally thought but not close to being good?

That's just great.

Didn't see this review posted yet:

http://www.slashfilm.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-review/

The biggest problem with Jonathan Liebesman‘s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is how disposable it is. If the movie was silly and goofy, but entertaining and engaging even on the lowest level, it might be something worth talking about. But this movie is a cinematic flatline that shows rare blips of life only to crash back down again into nothing.

[TigerClaw]

I don't get why people go by what critics or other online reviews say. There are ton of movies that are repeatedly bashed by critics and I enjoy them very much.
Critics aren't always right lol, it's the same mistake I made with GOTG or any other over hyped film.
Exactly, Critics hated the previous TMNT movies, So this is no different.

[fridaynightdestination]

IGN Review:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/04/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-review-3?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook

I can't deny all these negative worries me, but hey, I liked Brick Mansions, I, Frankenstein, Transcendence, and Transformers: Age of Extinction, some of the worst reviewed movies of the year so far. So I think I' might like the new movie.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Misspelling a character's name doesn't invalidate everything else they write.

It should. One of the most important parts of their job is spelling. If you can't take the time to proof read something you're publishing, and don't take the time to make sure you're spelling is correct, and your thoughts are coherent, then how can you be trusted? They don't even care about how they represent themselves. This is a common theme on the internet, get your blog post out there first don't worry about spelling or making sense.

Like I said I bet these people go into a movie with a nearly completed review, and just add a little more detail as soon as they run out to their car from the theater.

Someone said they're not paid to hate movies. Ok well they're there to critique them. I'm speaking for myself here, but most of the time I want to go in with a clean slate and decide for myself, and I must say I enjoy a lot more movies now that I don't take other opinions in with me. The TMNT movie is going to be interesting, because I've gone against my normal way of movie viewing and basically read what happens in the whole movie.

[Radical Raph]

Honestly, was anybody expecting this thing to get good reviews? I don't mean that in a nasty way either. I've been a fan of this thing all along, but I was never expecting great reviews.

The old turtle movies didn't exactly impress critics either. It's just something you have to be a fan of going in.

[graphic_content]

wow so this movie lacks both the charm and heart of the franchise because bay has his fingerprints all over it...I'm done:ohwell:

I gotta ask, you're done bc one review said that?

These critics are no different than any of us, save for the fact they get paid to post their opinions.

Critics, like us, are divided about this film...I've reading glowing reviews about the charm, the action, and humor...and others who hated it for the very same reason.

What some call a straightforward, uncomplicated storyline, others refer to as shallow...it's all relative.

[pannoni1]

Speaking of TheBostonNinjaTurtles, here is the Boston Herald's review. I'd much rather prefer a middle of the road critique to keep the media under control, and I sort of agree with it. It nicely gives the Nick show its due:

http://bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/movie_reviews/2014/08/film_review_teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles

Since the original 1990 film had similar reviews in terms of verdict at the time, I feel that there is still some potential, but ultimately, we as fans are our biggest enemies and contributors to the franchise. If we enjoy ourselves and share our good experiences, others will be determined.

[DioLeo451]

I gotta ask, you're done bc one review said that?

These critics are no different than any of us, save for the fact they get paid to post their opinions.

Critics, like us, are divided about this film...I've reading glowing reviews about the charm, the action, and humor...and others who hated it for the very same reason.

What some call a straightforward, uncomplicated storyline, others refer to as shallow...it's all relative.
No I meant I'm done with what these critics have to say I haven't seen the film yet so there is still that but at the same time if history is indeed repeating itself then that's sad tmnt 1990 personally I would give a 8/10 just for being what it is if this new film does the same thing then these critics words of ''wisdom'' and fact mean absolutely nothing to me that's all I'm saying

[LeoRaph]

Comic Book Movie's

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles/news/?a=105151

I love this part right here...I’m a huge fan of Fichtner, back to the Prison Break days, but his role in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles didn’t quite work for me at the end of the film. I thought the performance was decent, but something was lost in the final confrontation. I can’t quite put my finger on it…


And this...Shredder was severely lacking in regards to backstory and character development. He’s the main villain, but we don’t know much more than that.

[TigerClaw]

Comic Book Movie's

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles/news/?a=105151

I love this part right here...

And this...
That review seems positive

[Bry]

Comic Book Movie's

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles/news/?a=105151

You might as well call it soul, and without it, any deeper viewer connection to these Turtles remains firmly at bay.

http://media.giphy.com/media/VdA713I3sYinC/giphy.gif

I love this part right here...

I’m a huge fan of Fichtner, back to the Prison Break days, but his role in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles didn’t quite work for me at the end of the film. I thought the performance was decent, but something was lost in the final confrontation. I can’t quite put my finger on it…

And this...

Shredder was severely lacking in regards to backstory and character development. He’s the main villain, but we don’t know much more than that.

Yeah, I guess it's pretty obvious what happened there. Major plot/character changes during last-minute reshoots are never a good sign.

[NinjaPug]

Yep, it's fairly obvious they changed what they wanted to do with Sachs/Shredder during filming based on the backlash from originally having a white Shredder. Of course there will still be people that think this was all part of their plan from the beginning.

[jenna]

I'm not too disheartened by poor reviews - fantasy / action films tend to score quite poorly amongst critics, but can do brilliantly with audiences. However, I am getting the distinct impression that this film is going to suffer from the 2007 film effect... that it doesn't really know what it is.

That sounds crazy. Let me expand... The 2007 film seemed intent on satisfying 2 distinct and incompatible audience groups: fans that hungered for something dark and gritty with character conflict and that all-important showdown between Raphael and Leonardo (ie me) and, well, kids. As a result it was neither a dark and gritty film, nor a kids' film, it was just a chaotic mish-mash.

It seems that this film has created a look that is designed to have a darker impact than, say, the OT, with giant, hideous, bad-ass turtles which might be in keeping with a grittier tone, but mixed it with childish humour and an over simplistic plot, more in keeping with something that would entertain a younger audience.

Creators of TMNT films need to define their audience from the outset. 'Everyone' is too broad a term for property as specific as TMNT. As long as film makers are trying to cater for everyone, there is going to be missed potential.

Yep, it's fairly obvious they changed what they wanted to do with Sachs/Shredder during filming based on the backlash from originally having a white Shredder. Of course there will still be people that think this was all part of their plan from the beginning.

I don't see how anyone could successfully persuade us that it was all part of the plan. The name Eric Sachs is clearly an attempt to Westernise the name Oroku Saki. They may have been able to backtrack with on-set rewrites, re-shoots and pick-ups but the name Eric Sachs will be a lasting legacy of their original intentions. That and a weak principle villain with no depth or backstory.....

[voltron80]

haha :lol::tlol:

http://i.qkme.me/3qcstj.jpg

[TigerClaw]

we'll have to keep an eye on rotten tomatoes as more reviews pop up, So far it has 4 reviews with one only being positive. And its the reviews some have posted here.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/reviews/

The 1990 film did not get enough good reviews either, Yet, It became a beloved classic among TMNT fans. for this new film, Since this is being marketed towards children, Critics arent usually kind to Kids movies.

[Radical Raph]

Honestly, is a bad RT score going to change anybody's mind about seeing it?

[TigerClaw]

Honestly, is a bad RT score going to change anybody's mind about seeing it?
Not at all

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Honestly, is a bad RT score going to change anybody's mind about seeing it?

The opposite. Rotten Tomatoes is that Website where I don't care about what they say.

Transformers Age of Extinction got 17%, and I loved that movie. And I'm a die hard Transformers Fan.

[DioLeo451]

Honestly, is a bad RT score going to change anybody's mind about seeing it?
No not at all:(

[Vicky82]

Honestly, is a bad RT score going to change anybody's mind about seeing it?

No, Transformers 4 proved that.

[graphic_content]

No I meant I'm done with what these critics have to say I haven't seen the film yet so there is still that but at the same time if history is indeed repeating itself then that's sad tmnt 1990 personally I would give a 8/10 just for being what it is if this new film does the same thing then these critics words of ''wisdom'' and fact mean absolutely nothing to me that's all I'm saying

oh, wow, my bad, i completely misinterpreted your 'im done' statement.

but i agree with your sentiments - I will reserve judgement until i see the film this Thursday.

my apologies i jumped bc im tired of reading the same argument in EVERY thread:

- when the trailer released, the posters released, the promo images, the second trailer, the wave of tv spots, the bits we see on twitter, and instragram, etc. all invoked the SAME arguements OVER AND OVER again, and now with the 'pro' critics giving their two cents...all im seeing is:

stoked: see, the critics are saying this is a good time

leery: see, the critics are saying this is terrible.

if im done with anything, its this tired argument. the thread has been ongoing for pages, and there are barely any actual reviews compared to the amount of back and forth.

sorry for the rage post so early in the morning, its out of my system now. :D

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Honestly, is a bad RT score going to change anybody's mind about seeing it?

Actually, Man of Steel kind of got kicked in the nuts by critics, and I remember the RT score being discussed repeatedly. Yes MOS made some good scratch at the box office, but it should have made a ton more. The critic's were at about 52% and the fans were at 80%. But they only give credence to the critics...

[Radical Raph]

Actually, Man of Steel kind of got kicked in the nuts by critics, and I remember the RT score being discussed repeatedly. Yes MOS made some good scratch at the box office, but it should have made a ton more. The critic's were at about 52% and the fans were at 80%. But they only give credence to the critics...
But still, the critics are more like a guideline. I've seen some movies with over 90% ratings and found them completely terrible and boring. Some of the best, most entertaining movies do horrible to mediocre with critics.

[TigerClaw]

It'll be interesting to see the Audience rating, Those are typically higher then the critics rating.

[TigerClaw]

But still, the critics are more like a guideline. I've seen some movies with over 90% ratings and found them completely terrible and boring. Some of the best, most entertaining movies do horrible to mediocre with critics.
Yeah, Sometimes a film with a huge critics rating, Can do poorly at the Boxoffice, Guardians of the Galaxy is the only exception.

[Bry]

Yeah, Sometimes a film with a huge critics rating, Can do poorly at the Boxoffice, Guardians of the Galaxy is the only exception.

The only exception?

[TigerClaw]

The only exception?
Guardians of the Galaxy has a 93% and it did huge at the boxoffice this weekend, How often do you see a film with a high rating do well financially? it's a rare occurrence.

[MajorViolence]

Guardians of the Galaxy has a 93% and it did huge at the boxoffice this weekend, How often do you see a film with a high rating do well financially? it's a rare occurrence.

Um, Captain America 2?

I mean, critics tend to favor films that are able to take risks and be surprising, and those same qualities can also scare off audiences and lead to a weak performance, but critics don't hate blockbusters by any means, they just hate safe, repetitive movies. It just so happens that that's also the same formula that will most easily secure a big budget from a film studio.

[TigerClaw]

Here's another Video Review. It's positive, Giving it a 7.5 out of 10.

wodObtkxx2E

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Speaking of TheBostonNinjaTurtles, here is the Boston Herald's review.

teehee shout out


Um, Captain America 2?

toy story 3


i have a friend who swears by reviews, if a movie isnt above 60 on RT he doesnt watch it...and i hate to say it he sucks at forming his own opinion on films alot of the time repeating what he already heard a review say

or he just yeas "yea it was good"

[Bry]

Guardians of the Galaxy has a 93% and it did huge at the boxoffice this weekend, How often do you see a film with a high rating do well financially? it's a rare occurrence.

Off the top of my head? Basically every Marvel Studios movie over the past six years, especially Captain America 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy this year, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Gravity, the Hunger Games movies, animated films like Frozen and The LEGO Movie. Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 had overall good reviews last year and they were in the top 10 at the box office as well.

In fact, of the ten top-grossing movies this year (http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2014&p=.htm), only three got overall mixed-to-negative ratings.

[TigerClaw]

Off the top of my head? Basically every Marvel Studios movie over the past six years, especially Captain America 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy this year, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Gravity, the Hunger Games movies, animated films like Frozen and The LEGO Movie. Monsters University and Despicable Me 2 had overall good reviews last year and they were in the top 10 at the box office as well.

In fact, of the ten top-grossing movies this year (http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2014&p=.htm), only three got overall mixed-to-negative ratings.
In Rotten Tomatoes Standards, Anything at 60% or higher is good.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

What is the deal with every "positive" review saying "It's not perfect"? What movie is? These critics need to find some creativity...oh wait that's why they're critics...they have none.

[Bry]

In Rotten Tomatoes Standards, Anything at 60% or higher is good.

Check the scores for this year to date:

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 92%
2. The LEGO Movie - 96%
3. Transformers: Age of Extinction - 18%
4. Maleficent - 48%
5. X-Men: Days of Future Past - 91%
6. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - 53%
7. Godzilla - 73%
8. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - 91%
9. 22 Jump Street - 84%
10. How to Train Your Dragon 2: 92%

Half of the list have scores above 90%. And GotG is bound to score high on this list as well, with 93%.

It's a little bit different in the worldwide gross charts (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&yr=2014&p=.htm), but it's still more positively-rated movies than negatively-rated movies.

[TigerClaw]

Check the scores for this year to date:

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 92%
2. The LEGO Movie - 96%
3. Transformers: Age of Extinction - 18%
4. Maleficent - 48%
5. X-Men: Days of Future Past - 91%
6. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - 53%
7. Godzilla - 73%
8. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - 91%
9. 22 Jump Street - 84%
10. How to Train Your Dragon 2: 92%

Half of the list have scores above 90%. And GotG is bound to score high on this list as well, with 93%.
the ratings get really interesting when a Score sometimes end up at 59%

[Vicky82]

Josh Hammonds review

Josh Hammond ‏@JoshHammond124 · 5m
My Review of #TMNTMovie Verdict: 7.8/10

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNOZv6CAAA5elY.jpg

[TigerClaw]

Josh Hammonds review

Josh Hammond ‏@JoshHammond124 · 5m
My Review of #TMNTMovie Verdict: 7.8/10

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuNOZv6CAAA5elY.jpg
Saw that moments ago, Glad he liked it. :)

[Radical Raph]

Who the heck is Josh Hammond?

[TigerClaw]

Who the heck is Josh Hammond?
Hes a TMNT fan, and very vocal about all the stuff that's been going on, So its nice to see that he liked the film.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Hes a TMNT fan, and very vocal about all the stuff that's been going on, So its nice to see that he liked the film.

honestly i cant tell if he liked or not based off that

http://i.qkme.me/3qcstj.jpg


attacking peoples opinions now?

[Vicky82]

Early days yet with only 5 reviews (3 rotten, 2 fresh) but it's 40% so far

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/

[voltron80]

honestly i cant tell if he liked or not based off that




attacking peoples opinions now?

http://media.247sports.com/Uploads/Boards/468/15468/81547.gif#head%20shake%20gif

[Bry]

Early days yet with only 5 reviews (3 rotten, 2 fresh) but it's 40% so far

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/

It's weird that the CraveOnline review (http://www.craveonline.ca/film/reviews/737427) they count as "fresh" gives it a 5.5/10. That's a score that would earn a "rotten" by their own overall rating system.

attacking peoples opinions now?

Best to ignore it. It's the same troll schtick we've seen already. Just trying to bait you.

[Warhorse]

Yeah, Sometimes a film with a huge critics rating, Can do poorly at the Boxoffice, Guardians of the Galaxy is the only exception.

A couple of my favorite examples of how divided the critics and the regular audience can be, look at Rotten Tomatoes vs Metascore for Drive and The American. Critics were actually blasting the regular public for placing those critical darlings so low on the ratings scale. It was actually funny to see the those elite snobs getting their panties in a bunch.

Um, Captain America 2?

I mean, critics tend to favor films that are able to take risks and be surprising, and those same qualities can also scare off audiences and lead to a weak performance, but critics don't hate blockbusters by any means, they just hate safe, repetitive movies. It just so happens that that's also the same formula that will most easily secure a big budget from a film studio.

And X-Men, DOFP. Dawn of the Apes also opened up huge.

[Xiewin]

It's weird that the CraveOnline review (http://www.craveonline.ca/film/reviews/737427) they count as "fresh" gives it a 5.5/10. That's a score that would earn a "rotten" by their own overall rating system.



Best to ignore it. It's the same troll schtick we've seen already. Just trying to bait you.

This always happens on RT

[voltron80]

It's weird that the CraveOnline review (http://www.craveonline.ca/film/reviews/737427) they count as "fresh" gives it a 5.5/10. That's a score that would earn a "rotten" by their own overall rating system.



Best to ignore it. It's the same troll schtick we've seen already. Just trying to bait you.

Says the people that get moist over bad reviews.. Thanks for proving my point.

[Radical Raph]

Usually MetaCritic is more accurate than RT.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

[Warhorse]

It's weird that the CraveOnline review (http://www.craveonline.ca/film/reviews/737427) they count as "fresh" gives it a 5.5/10. That's a score that would earn a "rotten" by their own overall rating system.


This is nothing new. I have seen the same critic give a movie a 3.5 to two different movies on the same weekend, and one movie will be fresh and the other one rotten. This is why I really can't take that site seriously.

[Don77]

MOVIECLIPS Trailers' review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO7TsK8nwKM

[Vicky82]

Here's the Meta critic, 39 for TMNT so far.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

[TigerClaw]

MOVIECLIPS Trailers review
vO7TsK8nwKM
Fixed it for you.

This review is very positive, The guy on the right even liked Next Mutation.

[Radical Raph]

This is nothing new. I have seen the same critic give a movie a 3.5 to two different movies on the same weekend, and one movie will be fresh and the other one rotten. This is why I really can't take that site seriously.
Maybe they don't take the number rating into account as much as the content in the review?

[Bry]

Usually MetaCritic is more accurate than RT.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

Metacritic is a good "counterpoint" for sure. I find they generally tend to average scores a bit lower/more critical if they're highly-rated elsewhere, and a bit higher if they're especially low-rated elsewhere. Different system. The inclusion of a "mixed" rating instead of just "fresh" and "rotten" can skew things toward the middle. Still pretty reliable overall, though.

This is nothing new. I have seen the same critic give a movie a 3.5 to two different movies on the same weekend, and one movie will be fresh and the other one rotten. This is why I really can't take that site seriously.

They gave a 3.5/10 review a "fresh" rating?

...what?

[Warhorse]

Here's the Meta critic, 39 for TMNT so far.

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

When can we expect a metascore, the one that actually polls the audience members? This weekend I suppose? They tend to give an idea if a movie is going to take off or not.

[Don77]

Fixed it for you.

This review is very positive, The guy on the right even liked Next Mutation.

ok, thanks

[Warhorse]

Maybe they don't take the number rating into account as much as the content in the review?

No, the reviewer gets to decide if the movie is rotten or fresh, the site itself has nothing to do with it (not that we know of yet, the site is owned by WB, so I'm waiting for them to start fudging numbers like crazy in the future to fit their own needs)

[MajorViolence]

It's weird that the CraveOnline review (http://www.craveonline.ca/film/reviews/737427) they count as "fresh" gives it a 5.5/10. That's a score that would earn a "rotten" by their own overall rating system.



Best to ignore it. It's the same troll schtick we've seen already. Just trying to bait you.

RT doesn't determine the "fresh" or "rotten" ratings. When the review is submitted to RT, the submitter selects whether the review is fresh or rotten. Some reviewers consider anything above a 5 to be good, and therefore count it as fresh despite RT's tomatometer standards. Sometimes they just select the wrong rating altogether out of carelessness or by accident.

[voltron80]

Metacritic is a good "counterpoint" for sure. I find they generally tend to average scores a bit lower/more critical if they're highly-rated elsewhere, and a bit higher if they're especially low-rated elsewhere. Different system. The inclusion of a "mixed" rating instead of just "fresh" and "rotten" can skew things toward the middle. Still pretty reliable overall, though.



They gave a 3.5/10 review a "fresh" rating?

...what?

You do know the first live action movie has a 44% rating on RT?

[TigerClaw]

The film now has a 40% on Rotten Tomatoes.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/

Currently the 1990 film has a 45%

[voltron80]

The film now has a 40% on Rotten Tomatoes.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/

Currently the 1990 film has a 45%

Oh when I looked it up it said it had a 44% But still people are comparing this movie to a movie critics back then didn't like either.

[Warhorse]

Metacritic is a good "counterpoint" for sure. I find they generally tend to average scores a bit lower/more critical if they're highly-rated elsewhere, and a bit higher if they're especially low-rated elsewhere. Different system. The inclusion of a "mixed" rating instead of just "fresh" and "rotten" can skew things toward the middle. Still pretty reliable overall, though.



They gave a 3.5/10 review a "fresh" rating?

...what?

It was 3.5 out of 5 stars, so it could go either way, according to the site.

[Bmaga123]

Oh when I looked it up it said it had a 44% But still people are comparing this movie to a movie critics back then didn't like either.

That was predictable!

[MajorViolence]

Oh when I looked it up it said it had a 44% But still people are comparing this movie to a movie critics back then didn't like either.

Truthfully RT is really unrealiable for films that predate the website, since it's built to give numbers with data that requires a certain amount if participation from critics. Since critics weren't submitting their reviews to RottenTomatoes back in 1990, the score isn't extremely reliable.

Not that I'm necessarily saying the score would be extremely different if that wasn't the case, but I think it does make it pointless to compare tomatometer score of current releases with those of much older films.

[Bry]

It was 3.5 out of 5 stars, so it could go either way, according to the site.

Ohhh, I see. The other score was out of 10, so that's why I assumed it was the same.

70% would quality as fresh, I think. So that kinda makes sense.

[RaphaelinSTL]

I'm usually one to tend to worry about Rotten Tomato scores just because I want a film that I have excitement for to do well critically. This probably could be to blame due to the fact that from early 2007 to mid 2008, I was caught in all the hype and obsession for The Dark Knight and it was a truly rewarding feeling when the film was getting all the critical praise it received.

Of course, things are a little different here with TMNT. Critics have really never been kind to any Ninja Turtle film besides maybe the first film. Hell, even the 2007 CGI movie that people around here surprisingly love has a 30 something percent. As I mentioned in a previous thread, this movie is super personal for me and if critics don't seem to enjoy it...I'm not going to get too bent out of shape as I might have before. As long as me as a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan walks out of the theater satisfied, I'll be content. Sure, a 60 or above approval rating would be nice and I would to see this movie steal the number 1 spot from GOTG next week....but we'll have to see.

[Vicky82]

50% at the moment

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/

[TigerClaw]

50% at the moment

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_2013/
Ok, Going up a bit, 3 Fresh, 3 Rotten. It surpass the 1st film's rating of 45%, But you never know, The Meter can go up and down during the day.

Just noticed that the 3rd Fresh review isn't showing up, I only see the 2 Fresh. It says a total of 6 reviews, But I only see 5.

[Warhorse]

Ok, Going up a bit, 3 Fresh, 3 Rotten. It surpass the 1st film's rating of 45%, But you never know, The Meter can go up and down during the day.

Just noticed that the 3rd Fresh review isn't showing up, I only see the 2 Fresh. It says a total of 6 reviews, But I only see 5.

Eh, I think I'll just wait until at least 50 reviews are in before trying to dictate which way this movie is going to land. But honestly, I think it's going to be one of those critic proof movies. Now that GOTG over performed this weekend, I'm expecting the same with TMNT. 65 million OW.

[MajorViolence]

Eh, I think I'll just wait until at least 50 reviews are in before trying to dictate which way this movie is going to land. But honestly, I think it's going to be one of those critic proof movies. Now that GOTG over performed this weekend, I'm expecting the same with TMNT. 65 million OW.

I do think that this movie is pretty safe from critics. It could get a rating of 5% and I don't think it would really impact the BO performance. Though I really think GotG is going to be an insanely big hurdle to face, especially since GotG is actually a lot more kid-friendly than the marketing indicated. If there's any one thing that could take a cut out of TMNT's performance, it's that. I couldn't even try to make a prediction here. This could really go either way.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

especially since GotG is actually a lot more kid-friendly than the marketing indicated.

while i havent seen it yet ive noticed at least merchandise wise they are really making rocket the cuddley stuffed animal route

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Ok, Going up a bit, 3 Fresh, 3 Rotten. It surpass the 1st film's rating of 45%, But you never know, The Meter can go up and down during the day.

Just noticed that the 3rd Fresh review isn't showing up, I only see the 2 Fresh. It says a total of 6 reviews, But I only see 5.

At the very least, the movie must be really fun. This opener for a "fresh" review:

"There's no angst in this new franchise, no elaborate metaphor and no ambition to speak of. And although you could argue that that is in and of itself a problem, at least it smoothes out Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' many, many flaws. "

When your opening good review mentions "many, many flaws" I get nervous.

Trying not to read the actual reviews...worried about gleaming even more than I already know.

while i havent seen it yet ive noticed at least merchandise wise they are really making rocket the cuddley stuffed animal route

My friend that went with me took his two youngest girls. Both said Rocket was their favorite character.

[TigerClaw]

Just noticed the 3rd Fresh review finally showing up, And its the IGN review.

[Puddinpop]

wow so this movie lacks both the charm and heart of the franchise because bay has his fingerprints all over it...I'm done:ohwell:
Exactly :lol: You can tell right away the one's that have already made up their minds just by the terminology that they use.
It should. One of the most important parts of their job is spelling. If you can't take the time to proof read something you're publishing, and don't take the time to make sure you're spelling is correct, and your thoughts are coherent, then how can you be trusted? They don't even care about how they represent themselves. This is a common theme on the internet, get your blog post out there first don't worry about spelling or making sense.

Like I said I bet these people go into a movie with a nearly completed review, and just add a little more detail as soon as they run out to their car from the theater.

Someone said they're not paid to hate movies. Ok well they're there to critique them. I'm speaking for myself here, but most of the time I want to go in with a clean slate and decide for myself, and I must say I enjoy a lot more movies now that I don't take other opinions in with me. The TMNT movie is going to be interesting, because I've gone against my normal way of movie viewing and basically read what happens in the whole movie.
Yep... Its quite obvious to. That's the problem when you allow just any shmuck to use your website (comicbookmovie/screenrant/movieplot,etc) to post his/her opinions. This is how ignorance spreads.. like a virus online. It also lessens the integrity of the website. And I guess it's asking to much for people writing a " professional review " to read over what they wrote before pressing the send button.
These critics are no different than any of us, save for the fact they get paid to post their opinions.

Critics, like us, are divided about this film...I've reading glowing reviews about the charm, the action, and humor...and others who hated it for the very same reason.

What some call a straightforward, uncomplicated storyline, others refer to as shallow...it's all relative.
Nicely put. Imo.. this film sounds like it accomplishes everything that a TMNT film should be. And when I read words like " Swiss army knife" I just stop reading at that point.

the ratings get really interesting when a Score sometimes end up at 59%


I know I'll enjoy this thing.. that's all that matters. Not going to allow others to think for me by adopting their opinions bc I am too weak minded to think for myself.

[Bry]

My friend that went with me took his two youngest girls. Both said Rocket was their favorite character.

I have a feeling Rocket is gonna be a big fan-favourite for a while. He was very well-realized in that movie.

You can tell right away the one's that have already made up their minds just by the terminology that they use.

...

I know I'll enjoy this thing.. that's all that matters.

Just quoting the above to point out that the "leery" side clearly aren't the only ones who've already made up their minds. It goes both ways. Which is fine - let's just not act like one side is "right" while the other's "wrong" for the exact same behaviour.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Just noticed the 3rd Fresh review finally showing up, And its the IGN review.

They gave it a 6.0 "Okay"

Figure it's gong to land in the 40-60% range with critics, which would still be on par or better than previous TMNT films.

Crave Online's review is really negative (actually reading it, the reviewer did not sound like they liked it at all), but it still got a 5.5 and marks as fresh. :D

[TigerClaw]

Here's the ratings for all films so that we can do comparisons.

TMNT 1990 = 45%
TMNT 2 1991 = 36%
TMNT 3 1993 = 27%
TMNT 2007 = 34%
TMNT 2014 = 50% <- as it stands now.

[MrTMNT2012]

I don't know why but even though I knew this would happen, I feel bad seeing TMNT at 40% or the generally unfavourable critic reviews!

Especially for this new film cause it was a chance to gain a new audience.

[Warhorse]

They gave it a 6.0 "Okay"

Figure it's gong to land in the 40-60% range with critics, which would still be on par or better than previous TMNT films.

Crave Online's review is really negative (actually reading it, the reviewer did not sound like they liked it at all), but it still got a 5.5 and marks as fresh. :D

Eh, are these even top critics? Most of the NY publications have a really snotty attitude about CBM in general, and I'm curious about Travers and Scott.

But in the end, I still prefer JeremyJahns and Black Angry Nerd more, they tend to "get" movies that I "get".

And I'm glad this movie isn't suffering from the metaphor overload that so many movies of late have been doing.

[Radical Raph]

So yea, sounds like it's your average superhero blockbuster brought to life by the turtles' personalities.

[TigerClaw]

Here's another review on Youtube

Ul67grHOGAY

[Warhorse]

Where the heck is Samxsteal? He should be here salivating over all of the new premiere pics and the good word on twitter.

[Andrew Farago]

A 50% split among the professional critics is probably what I'd have guessed. The movie's tone is pretty similar to the 1990 live action movie, and that's a film critics either enjoyed or really hated, but that was embraced by TMNT fans, especially the younger audience.

If I'd been 14 when I'd seen this one, I would have loved it, although I'm sure most critics will be comparing this to the other superhero movies we've gotten in the past few years. The Marvel Studios films have raised the bar so high on those that any action movie's going to have a hard time stacking up to them, and superhero movies are now are held to a much higher standard than they were just a few years back. For what it's worth, this is way better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Elektra, Green Lantern, Man of Steel, and probably a dozen other superhero movies from the past decade that I could list, but it falls short of movies like The Winter Soldier (and probably Guardians of the Galaxy, although I haven't seen it yet).

If you go into it with an open mind and expectations of basically seeing an updated version of the 1990 live action movie, you'll probably come out of the theater feeling you got your money's worth. Some of my friends went to the screening last week expecting to really hate the movie, and they came out cheering louder than anybody. If you go in with no expectations like I did, or if you can get yourself into that same mindset you had when you first saw a live action TMNT movie, you'll probably have a fun time.

[LincolnHawk]

First batch of reviews coming out are mixed

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=105159

HIT FIX: "Kids will have a good time."
"The greatest thing this film brings to the table is a kinetic fighting style that makes the Turtles seem like they are actual physical threats to the bad guys. There are three big action scenes where the film kicks into a higher degree of fun that, taken together, add up to just enough of a thrill for me to recommend the film. There's one in particular that is inventive and impressive, and if the whole movie had been able to demonstrate that same level of energy, then I might be more enthusiastic about it." - Drew McWeeny: Hit Fix


SLASH FILM: "Disposable Action That Lacks Character and Emotion"
"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles succeeds in providing beautiful effects and passable action populated with characters we all know and love. But the plot around them is riddled with holes, there’s not a round character in the entire film, and the result is like watching a fireworks display. It’s an okay way to pass an hour or so, but you’ll forget about it minutes later." - Germain Lussier: SlashFilm

IGN: "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles isn’t great, nor is it a disaster."
"Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles isn’t great, nor is it a disaster. There have been better stories made about these characters, including the 1990 feature film, but there also have been plenty of weaker ones. Despite the strange revamp of the Turtles into huge, superpowered behemoths who seem ready to throw down with Colossus or the Thing, the film does a nice job of capturing their brotherly in-fighting, camaraderie and rapport. Much of the movie is just sort of “there” though, except for that notably entertaining snow-based action sequence – which stands out for also having fun taking the Turtles out of their usual city terrain." - Eric Goldman: IGN

VARIETY: "Any deeper viewer connection to these Turtles remains firmly at bay."
"Through it all, it's hard to avoid the sense that Bay, Liebesman and company are hitting all the iconic beats of the franchise, but not investing them with the sort of cleverness, gravitas or feeling that would allow this movie (and presumably, the two sequels in store) to coast along on something other than fan loyalty. Part of that is due to the appearance of the Turtles themselves: For all the undeniable sophistication of ILM's motion-capture system -- which required the actors to wear skin-hugging body suits and helmets equipped with tiny high-def cameras -- the push toward a more photorealist design has led to strangely off-putting and unapproachable results. They may look more hulking, more grotesque and certainly more like the products of advanced genetic mutation, but they also lack a certain engaging, intangible quality that Jim Henson's rubbery-looking '90s creations, though of an inferior technological grade, had in abundance. You might as well call it soul, and without it, any deeper viewer connection to these Turtles remains firmly at bay." - Justin Chang: Variety

HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: "Fox spends much of the movie acting bewildered as April"
"Liebesman relies on his genre-film resume to keep events moving at a brisk clip and the motion-capture process employed to facilitate live-action integration with cutting-edge VFX looks superior onscreen, sharply and smoothly rendering some thrilling action scenes and delivering impactful 3D character detail. However, the drawn-out two-hour runtime and the nonstop cartoonish violence may deter some would-be fans, or perhaps the adults who pay for their movie tickets." - Justin Lowe: Hollywood Reporter

[TigerClaw]

A 50% split among the professional critics is probably what I'd have guessed. The movie's tone is pretty similar to the 1990 live action movie, and that's a film critics either enjoyed or really hated, but that was embraced by TMNT fans, especially the younger audience.

If I'd been 14 when I'd seen this one, I would have loved it, although I'm sure most critics will be comparing this to the other superhero movies we've gotten in the past few years. The Marvel Studios films have raised the bar so high on those that any action movie's going to have a hard time stacking up to them, and superhero movies are now are held to a much higher standard than they were just a few years back. For what it's worth, this is way better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Elektra, Green Lantern, Man of Steel, and probably a dozen other superhero movies from the past decade that I could list, but it falls short of movies like The Winter Soldier (and probably Guardians of the Galaxy, although I haven't seen it yet).

If you go into it with an open mind and expectations of basically seeing an updated version of the 1990 live action movie, you'll probably come out of the theater feeling you got your money's worth. Some of my friends went to the screening last week expecting to really hate the movie, and they came out cheering louder than anybody. If you go in with no expectations like I did, or if you can get yourself into that same mindset you had when you first saw a live action TMNT movie, you'll probably have a fun time.
Yeah, you would have to go into this movie using the 1990 version as a point of reference, You can't compare it to other Superhero flicks out there. Cause there is nothing like this.

[graphic_content]

A 50% split among the professional critics is probably what I'd have guessed. The movie's tone is pretty similar to the 1990 live action movie, and that's a film critics either enjoyed or really hated, but that was embraced by TMNT fans, especially the younger audience.

If I'd been 14 when I'd seen this one, I would have loved it, although I'm sure most critics will be comparing this to the other superhero movies we've gotten in the past few years. The Marvel Studios films have raised the bar so high on those that any action movie's going to have a hard time stacking up to them, and superhero movies are now are held to a much higher standard than they were just a few years back. For what it's worth, this is way better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Elektra, Green Lantern, Man of Steel, and probably a dozen other superhero movies from the past decade that I could list, but it falls short of movies like The Winter Soldier (and probably Guardians of the Galaxy, although I haven't seen it yet).

If you go into it with an open mind and expectations of basically seeing an updated version of the 1990 live action movie, you'll probably come out of the theater feeling you got your money's worth. Some of my friends went to the screening last week expecting to really hate the movie, and they came out cheering louder than anybody. If you go in with no expectations like I did, or if you can get yourself into that same mindset you had when you first saw a live action TMNT movie, you'll probably have a fun time.

Im looking forward to this movie, and from the little I've seen so far (tv spots, etc.) Im all but expecting to love it.

Thing is, as you said, the bar has been set high with films like the Winter Soldier, but I certainly dont think its wrong for fans to expect a movie of that caliber. Given the swing in comic book-based films (in terms of quality) over the past several years, its been proven possible that CBMs can work in a major way.

Funnily enough, the 1st Cap America film is widely panned by critics as just okay, but nearly strong enough, and the 2nd film was just amazing. Perhaps this film will follow suit. Turtles-1, getting their feet wet. Turtles-2, dive in head first, and prove its really worth caring about these guys.

[Xiewin]

Random thought, but I like how civil and calm this thread is.

[Bry]

A 50% split among the professional critics is probably what I'd have guessed. The movie's tone is pretty similar to the 1990 live action movie, and that's a film critics either enjoyed or really hated, but that was embraced by TMNT fans, especially the younger audience.

If I'd been 14 when I'd seen this one, I would have loved it, although I'm sure most critics will be comparing this to the other superhero movies we've gotten in the past few years. The Marvel Studios films have raised the bar so high on those that any action movie's going to have a hard time stacking up to them, and superhero movies are now are held to a much higher standard than they were just a few years back. For what it's worth, this is way better than Daredevil, Catwoman, Elektra, Green Lantern, Man of Steel, and probably a dozen other superhero movies from the past decade that I could list, but it falls short of movies like The Winter Soldier (and probably Guardians of the Galaxy, although I haven't seen it yet).

If you go into it with an open mind and expectations of basically seeing an updated version of the 1990 live action movie, you'll probably come out of the theater feeling you got your money's worth. Some of my friends went to the screening last week expecting to really hate the movie, and they came out cheering louder than anybody. If you go in with no expectations like I did, or if you can get yourself into that same mindset you had when you first saw a live action TMNT movie, you'll probably have a fun time.

This is a pretty fair response. I feel like I expect and "need" more than this movie is, and a lot of the changes/choices made really rub me the wrong way. But I know that not everybody is going to share my expectations. I feel like a lot of people are going to love and hate this movie for the exact same reasons. And I'm starting to wonder if you even can make a TMNT movie that won't be divisive to a sizeable part of the fanbase.

Random thought, but I like how civil and calm this thread is.

Don't jinx it! :P

[guppy8466]

I know it's the wrong thread but no one has posted in awhile on the runtime. Any word on the actual runtime of this flick?

[LincolnHawk]

I know it's the wrong thread but no one has posted in awhile on the runtime. Any word on the actual runtime of this flick?

120min...I believe

[Puddinpop]

I particularly enjoyed this little bit

The castmembers portraying Splinter and the turtles achieve a persuasive level of realism that was never possible with the elaborate puppetry required for the original film series and adequately fulfill expectations for their characters.


Just quoting the above to point out that the "leery" side clearly aren't the only ones who've already made up their minds. It goes both ways. Which is fine - let's just not act like one side is "right" while the other's "wrong" for the exact same behaviour.

Wait... Didn't you JUST a few days ago say this
I'm almost kinda flattered he's following what I say so closely

??? Aaaaand didn't you.. say this as well?
I've had him on my ignore list for a while now, so I'm best just ignoring any future trolling/baiting from that direction.
???
It seems like My thoughts are a little to irresistible for you to miss out on Bry, Im not that interesting dude.. but how many times are you going to self-righteously and arrogantly tell someone that they " aren't worth it " and that you've put them on your holy ignore list until you actually do?
You 2 are always dismissing peoples opinions (your favorite word) when they don't line up with your own. Listen to screamo music? dismissed. Have something positive to say on Twitter? Dismissed. If you're Eastman or Liebesman and wanted to take liberties with this reboot that Bry doesn't agree with? You should admit you were wrong. Dismissed. Went to an advanced screening? Dismissed. An entire group of people that listen to a certain type of music or anyone that goes to an advance screening is pushed aside by you.. but one guy named Bob on Twitter starts trashing TMNT and you love it :lol:

Yeah, exactly. I saw a bunch of those early "reviews", and they were basically Warped Tour dudes saying "that was SICK/that was DOPE" over and over. And if they enjoyed it, good for them, really. But that says absolutely nothing about whether the movie's actually any good, and I honestly think I don't have much in common with their tastes or expectations anyway.

You should really try practicing what you preach and take care not to fall of that high horse you ride. Like I said before. The only opinions you " respect " are the opinions that line up with your own. You steer clear of me.. and ill steer clear of you. Ill put you on ignore also ok? Fair? I'm tired of hearing the word " opinions " ten million times in every post anyways. I don't need a stupid flame war with you either.

[LincolnHawk]

Random thought, but I like how civil and calm this thread is.

spoke too soon

[guppy8466]

120min...I believe

Thanx. I hope that's accurate bc I feel anything less would feel like a let down after all this time waiting for this. Still watch the first one and still say to myself at the end, no not yet. Idk, guess I just got accustomed to the minimum 2hour action films of lately

[Puddinpop]

spoke too soon

Don't worry.. it will stay calm. That's the last post concerning that issue. From me at least.
Anyways... back to reviewing the film :smile:

[Bry]

spoke too soon

Welp. :P

I was trying to make a point to appeal to the middle ground -- both "sides" can be equally biased and that's okay -- but I probably picked the wrong post to reply to.

As for this previous comment:

Yeah, exactly. I saw a bunch of those early "reviews", and they were basically Warped Tour dudes saying "that was SICK/that was DOPE" over and over. And if they enjoyed it, good for them, really. But that says absolutely nothing about whether the movie's actually any good, and I honestly think I don't have much in common with their tastes or expectations anyway.

I actually stand by this, because my point was that none of these impressions really explain why this movie's good or not. The same would apply to "that SUCKED" with nothing else offered by way of justification or explanation. All that does it say if someone happened to like something or not. They're not reviews. That's what I was trying to say.

But I really don't think it's a problem to acknowledge that others will have different tastes and expectations. I don't think that's "elitist" necessarily. I can come on strong with my opinions, but I usually make a point to say I don't expect everyone to agree. It's not "right vs. wrong", it's just... different.

But I'll leave it there. On topic and civil! :D

[Puddinpop]

Beyond that, I'm not gonna get baited into an argument. Hey, I'm learning! ;)

That's good Bry.. I'm happy that you feel that way my friend. Keep me on that " ignore " list and try to keep it that way ok bud :smile: I'm learning also.



Here's another review on Youtube

Ul67grHOGAY

I've talked to that guy before a few months ago. He's a cool dude. I am actually waiting for Black nerds review..

[Stugehen]

I can't help but notice an apparent double standard here with review for TMNT vs Gaurdians of the Galaxy. I haven't seen TMNT yet so what I say should be taken in stride. But with GotG it's got such a high RT score with critics embracing its ludicracy and cheesy humor. But of course with the TMNT its too ridiculous to take seriously. Sure there's a fart joke in TMNT and that's stupid, but there were numerous dick jokes in GotG and no one bats an eye.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

I can't help but notice an apparent double standard here with review for TMNT vs Gaurdians of the Galaxy. I haven't seen TMNT yet so what I say should be taken in stride. But with GotG it's got such a high RT score with critics embracing its ludicracy and cheesy humor. But of course with the TMNT its too ridiculous to take seriously. Sure there's a fart joke in TMNT and that's stupid, but there were numerous dick jokes in GotG and no one bats an eye.

i think part of that comes from the "its a kids movie" stigma....i havent seen turtles yet either but i know a lot of my parent friends are looking forward to seeing GOTG alone..vs being dragged to TMNT with the kids

[MajorViolence]

I can't help but notice an apparent double standard here with review for TMNT vs Gaurdians of the Galaxy. I haven't seen TMNT yet so what I say should be taken in stride. But with GotG it's got such a high RT score with critics embracing its ludicracy and cheesy humor. But of course with the TMNT its too ridiculous to take seriously. Sure there's a fart joke in TMNT and that's stupid, but there were numerous dick jokes in GotG and no one bats an eye.

None of the dick jokes in GotG were "haha, dicks" though. They had to do mostly with such irreverent language being used in a deadly serious situation. The fart joke was just a fart. Barely even qualified as a joke. I don't think it's a double standard to hate one and not the other.

[Andrew Farago]

Official runtime of the movie is listed at 101 minutes. It's a tight, fast movie.

[Puddinpop]

I can't help but notice an apparent double standard here with review for TMNT vs Gaurdians of the Galaxy. I haven't seen TMNT yet so what I say should be taken in stride. But with GotG it's got such a high RT score with critics embracing its ludicracy and cheesy humor. But of course with the TMNT its too ridiculous to take seriously. Sure there's a fart joke in TMNT and that's stupid, but there were numerous dick jokes in GotG and no one bats an eye.

Don't forget the black light joke lol. I really enjoyed GOTG. I'll actually admit that it's my favorite Marvel film.. by far. But it had the same exact plot as Age of Extinction and both plots were very messy imo. TMNT and GOTG are equally as ludicrous to me.. But I totally agree with you 100%. The plot can have wholes and be extremely generic when it has the Marvel tag on it. If it has a Bay tag.. forget it. Double standards are very obvious. No way around it. Shell tightening.. offensive.. Black light semen joke? No problem.

[Bry]

I can't help but notice an apparent double standard here with review for TMNT vs Gaurdians of the Galaxy. I haven't seen TMNT yet so what I say should be taken in stride. But with GotG it's got such a high RT score with critics embracing its ludicracy and cheesy humor. But of course with the TMNT its too ridiculous to take seriously. Sure there's a fart joke in TMNT and that's stupid, but there were numerous dick jokes in GotG and no one bats an eye.

I think a part of that might be whether or not there's anything "more" to it than that. Two movies can have similar jokes and content, but one might tap into some "deeper" meaning or emotion than the other and feel like a fuller story. Or might handle that material in a different, more compelling/interesting way. At least in the opinion of the reviewer, at least.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

if i movie a driven by the jokes it becomes one of those "scary movie" type films

im not saying tmnt is like that but atleast from what ive heard the script is written around the st up of the "jokes"

[guppy8466]

Official runtime of the movie is listed at 101 minutes. It's a tight, fast movie.

That's a little less than what I would like, but as long this movie does the franchise and fans justice and remain true to core elements I'm fine w that. Plus we're definitely getting a sequel and hopefully a trilogy out of this, they would be dumb not to. The release is getting so close! I can feel my shell tightening!

[TigerClaw]

Just noticed Rotten Tomatoes adding another review, So far 3 Fresh, 4 Rotten, Still at 50%, The newest review which is rotten, Coming from Topless Robot
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/08/tr_review_teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_nitwits_in. php

Here's a quote from it.
The way people have been talking about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you'd think Michael Bay directed it. After seeing it, you may wish he had. I did.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Just noticed Rotten Tomatoes adding another review, So far 3 Fresh, 4 Rotten, Still at 50%, The newest review which is rotten, Coming from Topless Robot
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/08/tr_review_teenage_mutant_ninja_turtles_nitwits_in. php

Here's a quote from it.

not to start nothing but thats actually not a positive review, the guy pretty much said it was crap and the only way its acceptable would be if bay himself directed it

[TigerClaw]

not to start nothing but thats actually not a positive review, the guy pretty much said it was crap and the only way its acceptable would be if bay himself directed it
Which is why its seen as Rotten.

[LincolnHawk]

That's a little less than what I would like, but as long this movie does the franchise and fans justice and remain true to core elements I'm fine w that. Plus we're definitely getting a sequel and hopefully a trilogy out of this, they would be dumb not to. The release is getting so close! I can feel my shell tightening!

was hoping it was more aroud 120min

[Radical Raph]

Official runtime of the movie is listed at 101 minutes. It's a tight, fast movie.
I wonder if this has anything to do with them having to cut certain scenes with Fichtner to accommodate him no longer playing Shredder.

[Galactus]

That's a little less than what I would like, but as long this movie does the franchise and fans justice and remain true to core elements I'm fine w that. Plus we're definitely getting a sequel and hopefully a trilogy out of this, they would be dumb not to. The release is getting so close! I can feel my shell tightening!

Well as a fan it doesn't feel like it's doing me or the franchise justice but hey I'm just one guy. Given the numbers it's predicted to make I'd say a sequel talk is a li'l optimistic.

In fact I'm not sure I'd want one unless they did a Hulk/Incredible Hulk were it's visually and tonaly different and be a case that as "well it can be a taken as a sequel or it could be taken as a reboot, it's up to you".