Digimon Adventure Returns for a new Season

[Allio]

So yesterday was Odaiba Memorial Day

Yesterday they had the live "Digimon The Animation 15th anniversary" event

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and then at the end they announced a new season featuring the adventure cast, at least Taichi,

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I mean, it can't be as bad as Adventure 02 can it?

[Shred Head]

I was jumping up and down screaming the first time I saw that on youtube. Sure Digimon hasn't been half as good as it was with 01 and tamers but there is hope. I mean as long as they don't bring any writers or producers or anything from Xcros Wars I'm sure it will be OK. You know what I'm going into this optimistically. I mean they already corrected one dumbass mistake from 02 and Taichi is the main protagonist again. So I think things are looking bright.

[Allio]

Xros Wars was okay, I feel that it and Frontier are about average, my favorite is still Digimon Savers.

Though the best digimon is still the movie Digimon X-Evolution

I tend to rank digimon as

Favorite: Savers

X-evolution > V-Tamers > Tamers > Xros Wars manga > Adventure = Next > Xros Wars = Frontier > sh!t > Adventure 02 > Xros Hunters

[turtlefanforever]

Always been a fan of digimon. Glad they're thriving.

[Allio]

Always been a fan of digimon. Glad they're thriving.

It's just dead in the states

[Ninjinister]

I was excited for Data Squad and saw two, maybe three episodes which were alright, but then they switched the date without any announcement that I saw... and now I don't have cable, so #yolo.

Honestly, though, I'm more stoked for All-Star Rumble. I didn't have an N64 so Rumble Arena, while the poor man's Smash, was all I had access to and I loved it.

[Allio]

I was excited for Data Squad and saw two, maybe three episodes which were alright, but then they switched the date without any announcement that I saw... and now I don't have cable, so #yolo.


Yeah...Frontier and Savers' dubs didn't exactly have the most solid schedule when airing in the states

[Netkeeper]

I got to see all of Frontier when it was on Jetix. It's Tamers that had the weird airing schedule, IIRC; I wouldn't know about Savers since I haven't actually gotten around to watching that one yet and I know I should. Maybe I'll go buy the DVD set.

Anyway, I was so incredibly excited for this news it isn't even funny. I just wonder what it means for 02, since I honestly rather liked it [aside from its epilogue, obviously]. I'd probably rank the series Tamers > Adventure > Adventure 02 > Xros Wars > Frontier, as I skipped Savers when it came out since the protag didn't wear goggles [hey, I was a younger, shallower guy at the time!]

[Peanut]

Which is too bad, because Savers is probably the most consistently good season of all. Closely followed by Tamers, of course.

[Ninjinister]

Yeah...Frontier and Savers' dubs didn't exactly have the most solid schedule when airing in the states

Yeah I missed out about 1/3 of Frontier because of its airing inconsistency.

[pharaohyami5000]

Digimon is returning to television? That's fantastic news.

Wonder what the structure for this series will be? It did say Digimon Adventures to be returning, but will it be a new concept or is it planning to adapt the manga version?

[Allio]

planning to adapt the manga version?
man I would love a v-tamers animated series, but considering that the video specifically specifies Digimon Adventure, that isn't happening

[Netkeeper]

Which is too bad, because Savers is probably the most consistently good season of all. Closely followed by Tamers, of course.
Yeah, I'm well aware of that. I just haven't gotten a chance to see it since I didn't watch it when it was on TV... though I might not have had cable at the time anyway so it wouldn't have mattered!

[Prowler]

I remember watching the 3rd season of Digimon back when I was a kid. It was quite good, from what I remember. Never watched the others, but I've always heard good things about Digimon anime series.

[Netkeeper]

The 3rd one was Tamers. It's probably the best one, so you got the good one!

[Prowler]

The 3rd one was Tamers. It's probably the best one, so you got the good one!
I was lucky then.

Same thing happened with Beyblade as well. I was aware of the first couple of seasons but only ended up watching the 3rd one. Man, the artwork for the first season looks terrible :lol:

[Peanut]

Yeah, I'm well aware of that. I just haven't gotten a chance to see it since I didn't watch it when it was on TV... though I might not have had cable at the time anyway so it wouldn't have mattered!

I never watched the dub, so I don't know what it was like and thus never watched it on TV, though I don't know that it ever even aired in Canada. Savers was actually the very first anime I ever watched completely subbed and followed while it aired in Japan.

Anyways, does anyone know how much Digimon is available on DVD and/or digitally at this point? I know Adventure, 02 and Tamers are pretty readily available, but what abouts Data Squad?

Also, did Xros Wars ever air or anything? Again, it never ever came to Canada, but I don't know that it even aired to completion in the US. I've watched 4 or 5 episodes on Crunchyroll, but it seems not so great.

[Shred Head]

Also, did Xros Wars ever air or anything? Again, it never ever came to Canada, but I don't know that it even aired to completion in the US. I've watched 4 or 5 episodes on Crunchyroll, but it seems not so great.

I don't know anything about Canada but in America Xros Wars is pretty hard to find and its called Digimon Fusion for the west. It currently airs on Nicktoons Network a network not on allot of cable packages. Its also on the CW's kids block Vortex but that's going to be replaced with infomercials soon so I'm not really counting it. Tell the truth just stick with crunchy roll the dubb is awful this comes from a guy who loves most dubbs. This is also the most edited Digimon series to date. I'm talking they out 4Kids in editing I mean editing Lilymon's and Omnimon's cloths because there supposedly too sexual suggestive.

Also all the Digimon seasons from season one to Data Squad have all been released on DVD. But the DVD is english dubb only and so far I have heard no info of a uncut subbed release ever happening. Kinda shocked Monster Rancher can get an uncut subbed version but not Digimon.

[Netkeeper]

I never watched the dub, so I don't know what it was like and thus never watched it on TV, though I don't know that it ever even aired in Canada. Savers was actually the very first anime I ever watched completely subbed and followed while it aired in Japan.

Anyways, does anyone know how much Digimon is available on DVD and/or digitally at this point? I know Adventure, 02 and Tamers are pretty readily available, but what abouts Data Squad?

Also, did Xros Wars ever air or anything? Again, it never ever came to Canada, but I don't know that it even aired to completion in the US. I've watched 4 or 5 episodes on Crunchyroll, but it seems not so great.
I always watch dubs whenever they're available. I mutitask while I watch things, and you can't do that with a sub, so I rather dislike them if the dub is of watchable quality. I think the only subbed anime I have ever watched more than a few episodes of are Ginga Nagareboshi Gin and the first three Digimon series [they're my favourites so I made sure to watch both dub and sub; prefer the dubs of all three]. I also watched much of Xros Wars' sub since I was able to keep up with the releases of that one. Didn't like it much though and once a dub was announced I stopped.

Xros Wars' dub [Fusion] is currently airing on the CW in the states. I watch it whenever I have free Saturday mornings. It isn't too great, honestly, but Dorulumon's voice saved it from unwatchability.

And yes, Adventure, 02, and Tamers are all available on Netflix, and the first five series are all on DVD. Reasonably priced, too. Dubs make me very happy.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am a little confused here. Is it just Tai coming back with some new set or will Matt and the others return too? If there is some retconning involved or it picks up two years after Adventure 02 and includes more than just Tai and Agumon then count me in.

[Netkeeper]

I have no idea. I'm a little concerned about what it means for 02 myself, but it'd be nice if it erased the epilogue. There's a lot of opportunity here, and I hope it gets snatched up.

[Allio]

luckily, since this is an odd number season, this should be a great one

[Peanut]

If nothing else I'm sure it'll be a nostalgia trip for those of us who watched Adventure on Fox Kids all those years ago.

[Netkeeper]

And bought the toys. And video games. And colouring books. And school supplies.

Wait, that was just me? Okay.

[Allio]

If nothing else I'm sure it'll be a nostalgia trip for those of us who watched Adventure on Fox Kids all those years ago.

luckily for me, I hold nostalgia for nothing.

[Peanut]

I guess? There's nothing wrong with it. It's only an issue if it won't allow you to let go of the past.

[Netkeeper]

But don't you know? Nostalgia is horrible. I hear it's the devil.

[ssjup81]

I was so disappointed that I couldn't go to the actual event because I couldn't get the time off from work, but hearing this news was nice. I never did watch XROS Wars (or whatever) outside of a couple of eps. When it was originally airing back then (Tuesday nights) I was usually working. Even then, it was more so background noise.

Out of the series I have seen though (first five), I still feel Tamers was the best. The story was okay, the characters were cool, and it, at no point, felt like the Takato show. The main three (Takato, Ruki, Jenrya) always remained the main three. Sure Takato got more stand out scenes, but he never was set up to hog it, imo. I also liked the fact that all of the problems were caused by human error, mostly.

For me, Frontier was my least enjoyed. I liked it fine for the first half, but later on it was too Takuya and Kouji heavy for my liking. I also felt that Kouichi should've had more done on him given the situation his character was in. I also still would've liked the twist ending of Kouichi being killed out.

I guess I would rank it...

Digimon Tamers
Digimon Adventure/Adventure 02 (I always put it together since it's one big story)
Digimon Savers
Digimon Frontier

Even though I liked something about the other five series (and still find Tamers best series of the first five), Adventure/Adventure 02, for me, have some of the most...interesting characters for me, or it was just easier for me to get attached to them or something compared to the later series.

I wonder if the 02 kids'll be around and if so, everyone's ages will be....

Jou: 18 (Last year of HS)
Taichi/Sora/Yamato: 17 (2nd year of HS)
Koushirou/Mimi: 16 (1st year of HS)
Miyako: 15 (Last year at Odaiba JHS)
Takeru/Hikari/Daisuke/Ken: 14 (2nd year at Odaiba JHS)
Iori: 12 (Last year at Odaiba Elementary)

Edit: Forgot to share this...

http://digimon-adventure.net

Click the egg. The faster fans can hatch it, the sooner we get information.

[Redeemer]

The only Seasons I watched were the first 3????? I think.
Loved the 1st season, second season was sub par, Season 3 was a bounce back for me.

[Netkeeper]

Oh god, an 18 year old Joe would be hilarious. He'd ALWAYS be stressed about college. We all know he would be.

But yeah, in regards to what you said about Tamers: One of the things I really liked about it was Takato being so different than other team leaders in the series. He was much more laid back than Tai or anybody, really, and I think that's why he never seemed to be much of an attention hog despite the first several episodes being fixed on him.

I also liked how it wasn't as formulaic. In Adventure, we knew in the episode after Greymon evolved, we'd see Garurumon, and everyone else, one episode at a time. Tamers didn't do that. There were very few episodes that followed one character [which was Adventure's favourite formula] and instead, it developed its characters by putting them into team-wide danger, like with Megidramon. Not saying Adventure's formula was BAD, I just preferred Tamers'.

[Ninjinister]

Tamers was also balls-to-the-wall insane and creepy as hell at parts. Even in the dubbed version it was pretty clear how much darker it was than its previous two seasons.

[ssjup81]

I could see Jou stressing out because of University entrance exams, if the show goes that far as we didn't see him stressed over his upcoming high-school entrance exams for 02. He was stressed in Adventure originally because of his junior-high-school entrance exams, hence his attending juku/cram school even during his vacation time. Entrance exams for junior high school isn't the norm, hence his obviously being in private school in 02. Given that his father is a doctor, a Kido tradition dating back to the Edo era, I assumed that the school Jou was in for 02 was a good one. Anywho, high-school entrance exams are the norm (as high school in Japan isn't mandatory). Elementary and junior high isn't.

For this upcoming series, the students I could see being the busiest with real-life school stuff are Jou, Koushirou, Mimi (if she's back in Japan, which I really hope she is), and Miyako.

The junior-high kids (Takeru, Hikari, Daisuke, and Ken) may end up busy with real-life mandatory club activities. In Japan for JHS, it's mandatory for students to join a club activity...at least with public schools. Maybe private schools are different. This could also explain why we saw Koushirou so much, as he was in the Computer Club and more than Taichi, seemingly. Same with our seeing Yamato more than Sora. Taichi and Sora were in sports clubs, which are more time-consuming and meets more frequently.

[Netkeeper]

Tamers was also balls-to-the-wall insane and creepy as hell at parts. Even in the dubbed version it was pretty clear how much darker it was than its previous two seasons.
And this right here is ALSO part of its appeal to me.

[Storm Eagle]

Tamers was also balls-to-the-wall insane and creepy as hell at parts. Even in the dubbed version it was pretty clear how much darker it was than its previous two seasons.

Tamers is on Netflix, so I ought to set some time to watch it. I can tell you that the dub version of the finale is always moving for me. I went to check out the original version to see if it might have the same effect on me, but it didn't.

[ssjup81]

I heard that the dub of Tamers wasn't bad.

[Allio]

I heard that the dub of Tamers wasn't bad.

the later half wasn't bad. Tamers, Frontier, and Savers all had decent dubs. Data Squad is actually the one digimon series that is the closest to it's original version.

Fusion is the worst dub

[ssjup81]

the later half was bad. Tamers, Frontier, and Savers all had decent dubs. Data Squad is actually the one digimon series that is the closest to it's original version.

Fusion is the worst dubFor the most part, the dub of 02 caused me to drop it so I've never seen anything dubbed of Digimon since maybe the ep where Miyako took her class trip to Kyoto.

[Pterobat]

Ah, Digimon. I was way too old to watch it when it came on, but I did so anyway. Good times.

However, Tamers/Season 3 was so good it burned away almost all my interest in anything before or afterwards. It was quite a time, especially *because* it was so weird and meta-fictional.

Much of that can be attributed to Chiaki J. Konaka, the director of the series, who worked on stuff like Serial Experiments Lain, and is a known Lovecraft fan. Apparently this new direction for the franchise was polarizing, but I'm glad it happened.

I've never seen a full episode of Digimon in Japanese, though. I know all about the changes made to it, and I've seen plenty of subtitled anime, but just never felt the need to seek out my nostalgic cartoons in Japanese.

[Netkeeper]

the later half wasn't bad. Tamers, Frontier, and Savers all had decent dubs. Data Squad is actually the one digimon series that is the closest to it's original version.

Fusion is the worst dub
Don't listen to him, he's biased against the dubs. They're all watchable, including Fusion, and that's all some people need.

I mean, Fusion's dub isn't the best, but I don't understand why so many people hate it. I generally just assume it's because it's what's on TV right now, since that always happens with a dub as it's airing.

Much of that can be attributed to Chiaki J. Konaka, the director of the series, who worked on stuff like Serial Experiments Lain, and is a known Lovecraft fan.
He's also a fan of Evangelion. Make of that what you will :V

[ssjup81]

I'm a bit biased of Digimon's dub. Adventure is the only one I've seen fully dubbed. I grew so annoyed with 02's dub I dropped it and stuck with the Japanese. After that, I just didn't bother with it. Adventure had its issues too, and can't bring myself to ever rewatch its dub. 02 I won't touch that dub with a 1000000 foot pole.

That aside, Chiaki also did one episode of Adventure 02. The episode where Hikari was trapped in the dark world where those Digimon technically wanted to rape her. I prefer the original over the dubbed ep, though by a lot.

So, what do you hope for in the upcoming series.

[Allio]

There are plenty of reasons to hate the dub

from changing of names (Yes names are important, because in digimon the game is "What's in a name") to completely ruining of the atmosphere. I can understand why someone would watch it for the camp factor, but honestly Cheese (original) >>>>>> Camp (Dub)

and when you change the script, it really messes with the tone the setting has.

No biased opinions here. The dubs (especially 1,2 and fusion) are outdated by today standards of dubbing. I mean, Viz and Funimation would just laugh at them and tell Neo-Saban to go sit at the kid's table

Heck, while voice acting is a little iffy, the current Pokemon and Beyblade dubs actually are decent.

[Netkeeper]

No, the name changes do not matter because almost everybody has the same or similar name. In Adventure in particular, the English names are just nicknames, used in quotes in the middle of their Japanese first and last names.

You almost never see a dub do that if it changes names. There are far worse offenders than Digimon when it comes to dub name changes [like Yu-Gi-Oh, especially GX].

[Prowler]

I'm all about picking subs over dubs, but when it comes to anime like Pokémon, Beyblade or Digimon, I don't really mind watching them dubbed, for some reason.

And despite disliking name changes when they are not needed, I call the characters of Beyblade and Pokémon by their English names which have also become their "official" ones, so to speak, all over Europe. I just cant' bring myself to call Ash "Satoshi". Feels weird.

[Allio]

No, the name changes do not matter because almost everybody has the same or similar name. In Adventure in particular, the English names are just nicknames, used in quotes in the middle of their Japanese first and last names.



Similar names... yeah (I want to mention, I'm not speaking about human characters)


Lilithmon: In Demonology the first wife Adam before Eve. She wanted equality, she then betrayed God and became the wife of Satan (She sure got her equality /sarcasm) and became the mother of the Succubus

Laylamon: Lady of the night in Arabic


Really similar /sarcasm


also don't get me started on Omegamon/Omnimon...I'm not mad, I know BoA couldn't of predicted Alphamon, but still (I hear one of the guys at Bandai was kicking himself about that after Alphamon was announced.)



And despite disliking name changes when they are not needed, I call the characters of Beyblade and Pokémon by their English names which have also become their "official" ones, so to speak, all over Europe. I just cant' bring myself to call Ash "Satoshi". Feels weird.

Both of those are different.

To alot of Pokemon fans, the manga is usally casual stuff, the important stuff is the games and manga...so not many really even cares if their are subs or not (I believe there is only 1 Pocket Monsters sub group, which I watch the movies from)


NOW, if you talk Pokemon special, there is definitely the whole debate of the name "Blue or Green" for the characters of the first arc. Did a poll recently, about 58% (out of 250) preferred to call the girl "Blue"


Beyblade is a different case, after the original series (after the present company took ahold) Sure the names were changed, but it was only so that the names would be spelled better to pronounce the names like in Japan...the only thing that actually had a full name change was the "Cancer" blade...which kills me a little on the inside

[Netkeeper]

Pokémon and Beyblade are only different cases to you because you aren't as invested, as proven by how much you care about dub name changes to the ****ing Digimon of all things.

For me, most of them are fine, but it's a rather case-by-case basis. Some of them have much better dub names [Piximon, Myotismon, Gatomon], some of them get a little confusing [Bearmon vs Kumamon], some are adapted to better suit the English language [Wizardmon, Biyomon, Frigimon] and others don't make any sense or sound stupid [Gallantmon, SkullMeramon].

The Laylamon example you provided is nothing to get worked up about because religious references are often cut out of children's media, like, ahem, VAMDEMON. Not that it matters because Myotismon sounds so much cooler anyway. Laylamon was probably picked as the change in the name because it had a double-L sound in it still. They don't usually try to name name changes too different if they can avoid it, since Omnimon still starts with an O [doesn't really explain Gallantmon though].

Holydramon was changed to Magnadramon for the same reason, same with Beelzemon/Beelzebumon and MagnaAngemon/HolyAngemon. While yes, the argument could be made that this is inconsistent as some Digimon such as SkullSatamon and Daemon didn't really have their names changed, you still can't deny that there's a good chance these name changes were forced by the network and are NOT the fault of BoA. I have no evidence to necessarily back this up, but if SkullSatamon and Daemon's names weren't changed [and neither was Devimon's for that matter] I feel confident in saying it was probably the case. It's not anything anybody could do anything about.

There aren't a lot of Digimon whose names were changed that much, anyway. Most of them keep their Japanese names, or are very similar in the localized version [like Wizardmon].

EDIT: I will take points away from the dub by using the name MaloMyotismon, though. BelialVamdemon sounds INFINITELY COOLER. Not that it matters because MaloMyotismon was a **** villain anyway, and his dub name at least lets me call him MarshMaloMyotismon.

[Allio]

Pokémon and Beyblade are only different cases to you because you aren't as invested, as proven by how much you care about dub name changes to the ****ing Digimon of all things.


Why wouldn't I care about the names of the Digimon? They are just as important to the franchise as the humans; unlike Pokemon/Beyblade/Yugioh, the Digimon aren't just some copy and paste extension of the human cast.

Even in stuff like Pokemon (in the games) the only ones that kept their japanese names are the ones that actually have some importance to the game franchise itself: The Mascot (Pikachu) and the Legend Pokemon that actually has the plot surrond them (Save for the Kanto Birds, but they were pretty much just as interchangeable as any other pokemon)...any other Pokemon could be switched in and out as they please

[Netkeeper]

Because there's SO MANY Digimon out there that to even someone as invested as me, it feels pointless to get mad at all the name changes, especially since so many of them are just minor or otherwise an improvement to the original.

[Allio]

I'll never get over Reapmon...I mean, I get he is a Reaper, but we already have a REAPERMon...it's redundant

[Peanut]

This place has quickly turned into an adult-children who take bullsh*t too seriously thread.

Dubs and subs both have their merits for different reasons and those reasons are different based on the person.

[ssjup81]

How is it taking it seriously? For some people they prefer or like dubs...some don't. They were just stating why mostly.

I prefer to watch shows with their original audio anyway. It could be a show from...Russia or wherever...I want to hear the native speakers of said program.

I'm the same with English programs. If the show was originally in English, I want to view and hear it that way, so watching dubs of English programs don't appeal to me much.

So for me, I'm like that with pretty much everything.

[Pterobat]

Don't listen to him, he's biased against the dubs. They're all watchable, including

He's also a fan of Evangelion. Make of that what you will :V

It just means he's got great taste! :D

I love Evangelion, but to me, Tamers only referenced that series on a visual level (the design of the D-Reaper critters, WarGrowlmon, a few other things I'm forgetting), while the Lain/Lovecraft connections seemed to have more substance.

I haven't watched the Tamers series in a decade, though, so I could be wrong about how much it draws from Evangelion plotwise.

As for editing, I don't support any dub edits on principle: nothing that TV dubs change are really necessary, once you remove the assumptions made by censors/fear of losing viewers or money.

However, I can't bring myself to get het up over changes made to series I haven't watched in a long time, because they're more like nostalgic things for me now.

[Allio]

remember when Mimi witnessed 9/11

http://digitalscratch.pmsinfirm.org/?p=457#06

[Peanut]

Remember those super old mid-late 90's Digimon sites? I remember one on Tripod or Angelfire or something similar where you'd pick a Digimon and level them and stuff. It was kind of like a message board RP, I guess? That was super fun.

[Ninjinister]

I typically tend to use dub/English names outside of the most ridiculously stupid (like "Zolo") in anything because A) More people will know who I'm referring to and B) I forget half of the English names for these anime/manga/games that have like 88,000 characters and remember even less of the Japanese names.

[Allio]

Remember those super old mid-late 90's Digimon sites? I remember one on Tripod or Angelfire or something similar where you'd pick a Digimon and level them and stuff. It was kind of like a message board RP, I guess? That was super fun.

I forget what the digimon fansite was, but there was one that actually uploaded all those old digimon web games...it was some Frontier themed website

it had that stupid one with Tai and Agumon, that Tamers one, the Infermon movie game...ah...cheap internet games....good times

[Allio]

so was looking around, and I found promotion art of the new Digimon Adventure project featuring Hackmon

http://i.imgur.com/IgSYyMl.jpg

With him getting his Royal Knight form, he will be replacing his master Gankoomon as a royal knight, I wonder if he will be appearing in the series

http://i.imgur.com/lT1opLb.jpg

[ssjup81]

Since I have a bit of time I decided to give a more thorough reason why I stopped watching the dub. Since it's long, I will use spoiler tags.

This is how I feel, personally...

IMO, the dub fails because of how they characterized them. They changed some of the characters. For instance, Mimi was changed. She's not shallow in the original and can be serious when the time calls for it. In other words, she wasn't all that much of a stereotype like the dub made her. Mimi isn't a shopaholic or fashion obsessed. She also doesn't give off that, "I'm popular, so I can't hang with those like Izzy or Joe". In the novel (which is canon in the eyes of the Adventure director), there's the part where Mimi was on the bus and arrived at the campgrounds. She noticed Jou (unknown to her at the time) and that he was their camp leader, but she didn't feel he could be very reliable because he looked so nervous and uptight. When she and her friends saw Koushirou with his laptop, the other three girls laughed over it, thinking he was strange, but Mimi didn't get why it would be funny and didn't laugh at her classmate, who she did know (out of the group, Koushirou was the only person she knew as they were in the same year and class). If this was included in the animated series, and dubbed, I could see the writers either having her say something in regards to it like, "What a nerd" or something along the lines of it, or thinking it.

Same goes for Izzy. They upped his intelligence for the dub and made him a stereotypical nerd with the social skills of a hermit, when he really isn't for the original at all. In one dub ep (I think in early 02) they were going on about him doing something that a super smart person would do, like studying physics for fun or something. They also made Izzy a bit arrogant, like, "I'm smart, and I'm going to let you all know that I'm smarter than you. Let me patronize you some more." This was the final straw for me to stop watching the dub (this was in 02 as Izzy took a potshot at Davis and he wasn't even there). Koushirou is polite, would never purposely insult someone, and is pretty respectful towards everyone. The boy is a bit introverted, given his adoption complex, but not a stereotypical nerd. He just likes computers and learning about things that interest him. He's just an analytical thinker. For the dub, seems they ignored "Joe". Jou was pretty smart as well, as he's great at math and academically smart (so is Yamato, as a matter of fact; he's also academically smart and smart in general so his getting into engineering isn't surprising). So yeah, dub Izzy comes across as a know-it-all who would probably be into Star Trek and stuff, not that there's anything wrong with that, whereas Koushirou really doesn't seem to give off that impression.

Oh, the other unforgivable thing, imo, was the treatment of "Davis", but the head writer mentioned that he just didn't like the character and changed stuff to have him bashed. They exaggerated his crush, for one. It was very innocent in the original version. Normal. He never went around claiming Hikari was his girl or acted as if she were his girlfriend. In the original, everyone knew of his crush, but it wasn't overly done. He also seemed to get dumbed down and the other characters around him came across as being superior to him. He isn't good in school (well math was mentioned in the original) but he wasn't an idiot. That's what caused me to stop watching the dub of the show. I liked Daisuke.

[Netkeeper]

I've watched both versions of the Adventure series but I never saw the dubbed versions of them that way. Mimi never treated Izzy like that. Like there were specific episodes where those two worked together and she didn't treat him like that. I think you're probably exaggerating her more than the dub does.

But some of the opinions on Izzy are kinda justified. Izzy, my favourite character next to Joe, says a lot of stupid ****. But there's just a charm to it, for me.

[Peanut]

News flash! They're both incredibly dated and bad in their own ways. Whether you like cliched anime tropes and by-the-books characterization, or dumbed down American dubbing filled with lazy puns, is a preference.

I personally like both.

[Netkeeper]

Well yes, I like both too. I just lean slightly towards the dub and I just don't like that it gets so much **** from people when it's not even a bad dub.

[Leofan26]

The only dub I hated was Zero Two, that was cuz they made Davis look like a joke, you'd think they were completely different characters or some thing. It's like the dub people hated him and tried every possible way to treat him like crap, until the ending which they couldn't cuz that's pretty much his time to shine moment, so they were like " F, now we can't make him look bad any more! "

Other than that, I've got no complaints about the dub.

Any ways, it's cool that the older characters are returning as the main cast again, or at least Tai is and maybe Matt. Don't know how it's going to work though, take place during high school years I guess? Even than, what's the Zero Two cast going to do while these events happen? Or are they going to act like Zero two never happened? :lol:

Fine, maybe they can fix the mistake and have Tai x Sora together instead, that's right I shipped them together :x

[Allio]

promotional artwork for the 15th anniversary project (They have been celebrating Digimon 15 anniversary for a few years now)

http://i.imgur.com/IgSYyMl.jpg

With Hackmon getting his Ultimate form, Jesumon
http://i.imgur.com/lT1opLb.jpg

I wonder if he will be important to the new series... This series now has my interest



--

If you don't know, the Royal Knight Gankoomon has been training Hackmon to inherit his title as a Royal Knight. Jesumon will be the one to take over the role of Royal Knight from Gankoomon. So yeah, Gankoomon will retire while Hackmon takes over for him; so there will still be one open space for the Royal Knights

[ssjup81]

I've watched both versions of the Adventure series but I never saw the dubbed versions of them that way. Mimi never treated Izzy like that. Like there were specific episodes where those two worked together and she didn't treat him like that. I think you're probably exaggerating her more than the dub does.I didn't say that was the case. I said it came across that way at times. It seemed they were going for the popular girl stereotype with her in Adventure or either shallowness. I kinda hated her reaction to Angemon in the dub the first time.But some of the opinions on Izzy are kinda justified. Izzy, my favourite character next to Joe, says a lot of stupid ****. But there's just a charm to it, for me.Koushirou was my favorite character. His background and why he engrossed himself in computers was interesting and his character theme, "Version Up" helped as well.

I have other fav characters too, like Jou, Mimi, Sora, Ken, Daisuke, etc.

[ssjup81]

The only dub I hated was Zero Two, that was cuz they made Davis look like a joke, you'd think they were completely different characters or some thing. It's like the dub people hated him and tried every possible way to treat him like crap, until the ending which they couldn't cuz that's pretty much his time to shine moment, so they were like " F, now we can't make him look bad any more! "The head writer at the time, Nimoy, didn't like the character and purposely wrote "Davis" that way. I hate characterization changes with anything in general, unless it's a cultural issue thing. I can give a bit of leeway where that's concerned.Any ways, it's cool that the older characters are returning as the main cast again, or at least Tai is and maybe Matt. Don't know how it's going to work though, take place during high school years I guess? I was wondering about that too earlier in this thread.
I wonder if the 02 kids'll be around and if so, everyone's ages will be....

Jou: 18 (Last year of HS)
Taichi/Sora/Yamato: 17 (2nd year of HS)
Koushirou/Mimi: 16 (1st year of HS)
Miyako: 15 (Last year at Odaiba JHS)
Takeru/Hikari/Daisuke/Ken: 14 (2nd year at Odaiba JHS)
Iori: 12 (Last year at Odaiba Elementary)

I was only assuming that Ken would be a student at Odaiba Junior High School as well as Takeru, Hikari, and Daisuke, but I couldn't see them not attending, other than Ken. He does live in Tamachi and it probably would be a hassle to get the train to Odaiba everyday. Miyako was about to start Odaiba JHS in movie 4 so we know she's there.Even than, what's the Zero Two cast going to do while these events happen? Or are they going to act like Zero two never happened? :lol:

Fine, maybe they can fix the mistake and have Tai x Sora together instead, that's right I shipped them together :xHere's something interesting. Yamato x Sora was planned from the very beginning. I like Taichi x Sora but it always came across as one-sided to me, until 02 where you could see that Taichi had finally fallen for Sora.

In the original ep where Taichi was encouraging Sora to face Yamato made more sense. She didn't know about Taichi's feelings at all. Neither did Yamato. The dub, some told me got the impression that Sora wanted to face Matt but was worried about hurting Tai's feelings.

Yamato x Sora, Taichi x Sora, didn't matter to me. I liked both. lol. I liked a lot of pairings. I should post up a list. lol

Edit....

Here are some lists if my fav human characters, pairings, etc...

Favorite Goggleboy
Motomiya Daisuke (Digimon Adventure 02)
Matsuda Takato (Digimon Tamers)

Digimon Adventure
Izumi Koushirou
Kido Jou
Takenouchi Sora
Takaishi Takeru

Digimon Adventure 02
Tachikawa Mimi (her image theme truly made me a fan of her for 02)
Hida Iori
Inoue Miyako
Ichijouji Ken

Digimon Tamers
Makino Ruki
Lee Jianliang/Jenrya
Kitagawa Kenta

Digimon Frontier
Kimura Kouichi
Himi Tomoki

Digimon Savers
Noguchi Ikuto
Daimon Chika
Kurosaki Miki
Shirakawa Megumi
Fujieda Yoshino

Now, favorite pairings...brace yourself. :lol:

Digimon Adventure/Adventure 02
Taichi x Sora
Yamato x Sora

Koushirou x Mimi (Ultimate fav pairing period)
Jou x Mimi (Pretty much the only Jou pair I do like)
Michael x Mimi
Ryou x Mimi (I sorta like this one because of the games...she does flirt with him)
Yamato x Mimi (One-sided; I like Yamato > Mimi)

Koushirou x Miyako (My favorite Miyako pairing)
Ken x Miyako (I just find it incredibly cute; also my fav Ken pairing)
Iori x Miyako (I like it one-sided; Iori with a crush on Miyako)

Daisuke x Hikari
Koushirou x Hikari (I like this pairing angsty and one-sided and blame the Adventure love-letter drama; Hikari > Koushirou)
Takeru x Hikari (I kinda like this pairing very very angsty)
Ken x Hikari (I like this pairing one-sided; Hikari > Ken)

Takeru x Ken (I like this angsty and one-sided more so; Takeru > Ken; also my fav)
Takeru x Koushirou (Same as above, I really love this one one-sided lol; Takeru > Koushirou)
Takeru x Taichi (Same as above lol; Takeru > Taichi)

Yamato x Jun (In an ironic sense where it's Yamato > Jun after she gets over him)
Yamato x Chizuru (Chizuru is Miyako's older sister; the one with the short hair)

Digimon Tamers
Jenrya x Ruki (Favorite for Tamers)
Ryou x Ruki
Hirokazu x Ruki (I like it one-sided; Hirokazu > Ruki)

Digimon Frontier
None...

Digimon Savers
Ikuto x Chika
Tohma x Sayuri (Sort of; I like Tohma's having a crush on her, even though she's a married woman)

[MikeandRaph87]

One thing I never understood in the second season was why T.Km and Karai haad the armor digieggs and master keys to get into the digiworld while the other six did not. The other six could only enter after the other two entered. Why digi-armor work for three others opposed to Digi-Destined? Was it simply something writers want overlooked in order to have a set of 12 year olds and elavted the older main characters to reoccuring mentors? I never understood that.

I hope Matt atleast of the other 7 youth gets a role in the upcoming season. I liked how Matt's character played off of Tai, his equal.

If by the end of season w every human under 18 has a Digimon and Apoclaymon and all his creations including Mytotismon twice and two Digimon reaching their highest form what kind of threat can be worked out for Tai and others to face. Its hard to not see a retcon involved to get back to Tai and friends. Its the only Digimon I care to see its just hard to see it work.

[ssjup81]

I hope for Demon to return actually, and yes many people did gradually receive partners, not everyone. Jun even got a partner, if I'm remembering the drama right.

I also think that Takeru and Hikari could get the new devices and Digimentals because they were under the age of 12. For 02, the ages would've been....

Jou: 15
Taichi/Sora/Yamato: 14
Koushirou/Mimi: 13

Miyako: 12
Takeru/Hikari/Daisuke/Ken: 11
Iori: 9

To be chosen, you were supposed to be under the age of 13, a kid, maybe that's why it couldn't work for Taichi and the others and why new kids (Miyako, Daisuke, Iori) were chosen. Ken, Takeru, and Hikari were the veterans of the group. Interesting how they used Ken who was a game character.

That aside, it was just promoting the D3 device toys as well as the D-Terminal at the time.

[Netkeeper]

I didn't say that was the case. I said it came across that way at times. It seemed they were going for the popular girl stereotype with her in Adventure or either shallowness. I kinda hated her reaction to Angemon in the dub the first time.Koushirou was my favorite character. His background and why he engrossed himself in computers was interesting and his character theme, "Version Up" helped as well.

I have other fav characters too, like Jou, Mimi, Sora, Ken, Daisuke, etc.
Oh, okay, sorry for misunderstanding then.

Joe's probably my favourite because he's the funniest, and he's an oldest without being a leader so it's an interesting distinction. Also his hair in 02? ****ing awesome. His dynamic with Gomamon, though, has to be the best thing about him, really.

Also, hahaha, my favourite character/ship list is pretty simple.
Adventure: Joe, Izzy, Wizardmon, Myotismon, Etemon
02: Davis, Ken, Oikawa, Cody, Arukenimon
Tamers: Henry, Terriermon, Guilmon, Jeri, Takato, ****ing everybody
Frontier: I... didn't really have a favourite here.
Fusion: Dorulumon and only Dorulumon. Well ok Cutemon too.

And ships, uh... Wizardmon/Gatomon is my otp. And Davis/Ken is my other otp. There u go I don't give a damn about Takari or any of those popular ships although Rika/boys are stupid ships the lot of them

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

my favorite season..i can not wait!

[Leofan26]

[QUOTE=ssjup81;1336230]The head writer at the time, Nimoy, didn't like the character and purposely wrote "Davis" that way. I hate characterization changes with anything in general, unless it's a cultural issue thing. I can give a bit of leeway where that's concerned.I was wondering about that too earlier in this thread. [/ QUOTE ]

Yah, that's not right. It's fine if you hate the character but just cuz you do doesn't mean they should change some ones work :roll:

[ QUOTE ] I was only assuming that Ken would be a student at Odaiba Junior High School as well as Takeru, Hikari, and Daisuke, but I couldn't see them not attending, other than Ken. He does live in Tamachi and it probably would be a hassle to get the train to Odaiba everyday. Miyako was about to start Odaiba JHS in movie 4 so we know she's there.Here's something interesting. Yamato x Sora was planned from the very beginning. I like Taichi x Sora but it always came across as one-sided to me, until 02 where you could see that Taichi had finally fallen for Sora. [ /QUOTE ]

So, the Zero Two cast would attend different high schools?

Beh, I never saw the connections between Matt x Sora, it just seemed like a random pairing added in cuz the writers loved Matt more than Tai :roll:
They hardly had any interactions in series one, not to mention the film almost made it seem like Sora x Tai they'd become canon at the end.
Hopefully the Digimon people saw the hatred of the Matt x Sora pairing and change it :lol:

[ QUOTE ] In the original ep where Taichi was encouraging Sora to face Yamato made more sense. She didn't know about Taichi's feelings at all. Neither did Yamato. The dub, some told me got the impression that Sora wanted to face Matt but was worried about hurting Tai's feelings.[ / QUOTE ]

That's odd, in the film it seemed like they hinted she knew of Tai's feelings and was happy about it. Was that dub added like what happened with Poke shipping in the first couple of series? That's messed up :x

[ QUOTE ] Yamato x Sora, Taichi x Sora, didn't matter to me. I liked both. lol. I liked a lot of pairings. I should post up a list. lol [/ QUOTE ]

I guess it's better to think that or you'll just get disappointed :cry:

Edit....

Here are some lists if my fav human characters, pairings, etc...

[ QUOTE ] [spoiler]Favorite Goggleboy
Motomiya Daisuke (Digimon Adventure 02)
Matsuda Takato (Digimon Tamers) [ / QUOTE ]

It's nice to see some Davis fans, those are hard to find :)

Wow, long list :D

[ssjup81]

The head writer at the time, Nimoy, didn't like the character and purposely wrote "Davis" that way. I hate characterization changes with anything in general, unless it's a cultural issue thing. I can give a bit of leeway where that's concerned.I was wondering about that too earlier in this thread. Yah, that's not right. It's fine if you hate the character but just cuz you do doesn't mean they should change some ones work :roll:Yeah, not very professional.

I was only assuming that Ken would be a student at Odaiba Junior High School as well as Takeru, Hikari, and Daisuke, but I couldn't see them not attending, other than Ken. He does live in Tamachi and it probably would be a hassle to get the train to Odaiba everyday. Miyako was about to start Odaiba JHS in movie 4 so we know she's there.Here's something interesting. Yamato x Sora was planned from the very beginning. I like Taichi x Sora but it always came across as one-sided to me, until 02 where you could see that Taichi had finally fallen for Sora. So, the Zero Two cast would attend different high schools? They wouldn't be in high school. They would be in junior high school or middle school and Iori would still be in elementary school for this upcoming series. I'm going by Japan's system.

In 02, all of the older kids were junior high school/middle school students, although it's unknown about Mimi since she was in the US. Maybe she was in high school.

The younger kids were all in elementary school (Odaiba Elementary) and Ken was at Tamachi Elementary iirc. Ken's the only one who didn't live in Odaiba.

As for the older kids for the upcoming series, there is a chance of them attending different high schools (I'm already expecting it for Jou). You have to test into high schools in Japan since high school isn't mandatory.Beh, I never saw the connections between Matt x Sora, it just seemed like a random pairing added in cuz the writers loved Matt more than Tai :roll:

They hardly had any interactions in series one, not to mention the film almost made it seem like Sora x Tai they'd become canon at the end.
Hopefully the Digimon people saw the hatred of the Matt x Sora pairing and change it :lol:The novel is more in depth and movie 2 was supposedly not canon as far as that went as it wasn't intentional. Even in Bokura no Wargame (movie 2), it seemed one sided. Taichi didn't come across as liking her at all in that way.

Seems the main people who had a prob with the whole Yamato x Sora thing were those outside of Japan. It's like Matt x Mimi. Outside of Japan that seemed popular. Yamato x Mimi was never popular. Koushirou x Mimi seemed to be at one point and there's a drama cd to prove it. lol In the original ep where Taichi was encouraging Sora to face Yamato made more sense. She didn't know about Taichi's feelings at all. Neither did Yamato. The dub, some told me got the impression that Sora wanted to face Matt but was worried about hurting Tai's feelings.That's odd, in the film it seemed like they hinted she knew of Tai's feelings and was happy about it. Was that dub added like what happened with Poke shipping in the first couple of series? That's messed up :xThat had to have been added in. As for the Satoshi x Kasumi (Pokeshipping) thing, I still feel that it would've been made official if it would've ended when it was supposed to. There is that video of Kasumi with a kid. Yamato x Sora, Taichi x Sora, didn't matter to me. I liked both. lol. I liked a lot of pairings. I should post up a list. lol I guess it's better to think that or you'll just get disappointed :cry:Even if I didn't, I wouldn't have cared too much either way. [spoiler]Favorite Goggleboy
Motomiya Daisuke (Digimon Adventure 02)
Matsuda Takato (Digimon Tamers) It's nice to see some Davis fans, those are hard to find :)I really liked him, but didn't care much for "Davis" but really liked Daisuke. His image theme is nice too. He pretty much praises the goggles Taichi gave him and treats them preciously and views it as his Crest of Courage. I liked him because of how friendly he was, and despite his crush on Hikari, he seemed to value his friendship with her and the others more. It was great how he wasn't affected by BelialVamdemon because he was content with his life.
Wow, long list :DYep. lol

[Netkeeper]

It was great how he wasn't affected by BelialVamdemon because he was content with his life.
This. This is why he was my favourite character in 02.

[ssjup81]

Just a quick reminder....

http://digimon-adventure.net

We must hatch the egg in order to get more info on the upcoming series.

[Netkeeper]

I click every day.

Apparently you can open private browsing windows and attack him as many times as you want with them. I haven't tested this yet though, honestly a little lazy in that regard.

[ssjup81]

My laptop's keyboard is annoying to use now. I need to replace it so I only go to the site on my tablet at work since there's wifi here. That's also why I haven't been posting much lately.

[Leofan26]

With 2015 coming up pretty fast, I hope we get an actual trailer soon :D

[Allio]

With 2015 coming up pretty fast, I hope we get an actual trailer soon :D

Well you best start Nade-Nade as soon as you can

[Netkeeper]

For now... we must attack!

https://31.media.tumblr.com/fff59cba4842fe9be1ba87b409a26a9d/tumblr_inline_narrv78JqJ1r3hql2.gif

[ssjup81]

For now... we must attack!

https://31.media.tumblr.com/fff59cba4842fe9be1ba87b409a26a9d/tumblr_inline_narrv78JqJ1r3hql2.gif
Perfect! lol

[Allio]

final stretch for NADE-NADE

[Shred Head]

Botamon has hatched and we now got a wait a moment sign. Not to sure what time it is in Japan compared to America they may be waiting later in the day there to release something. That or they didn't expect so many to nade-nade the egg.

[ssjup81]

Botamon has hatched and we now got a wait a moment sign. Not to sure what time it is in Japan compared to America they may be waiting later in the day there to release something. That or they didn't expect so many to nade-nade the egg.Depends on the time zone in the US, but at the time you made that post, which I have set to EST, as I'm from Virginia, it was about 7:30 something Sun morn here.

[MikeandRaph87]

What is this about Botomon? Is it some promotion to Tai(and hopefully others) return?

I hope that feeling of disappointment in not continuing the Adventure 01 team will be satisifed with this possibility. Loved the characters dealing with all the ier demons and personality clashes and growing.

Central Va,huh? Are you going to Wizard Con in Richmond next weekend? Kevin Eastman will be there.

[ssjup81]

What is this about Botomon? Is it some promotion to Tai(and hopefully others) return? Why wouldn't they? The promo said that it'll have 八神太一、17歳. It's definitely going to deal with a 17-year-old Taichi.I hope that feeling of disappointment in not continuing the Adventure 01 team will be satisifed with this possibility. Loved the characters dealing with all the ier demons and personality clashes and growing.Yup, same.Central Va,huh? Are you going to Wizard Con in Richmond next weekend? Kevin Eastman will be there.No because I live in Japan. lol. I'm from Virginia, which is why I have the settings here in EST.

*points to profile*

When I said it was 7:30 something in the morn here, here = Japan.

[Leofan26]

Man I know what I love, seeing Tai's good old hair style back :D

I hope they keep his personality in tack, I liked how they did him in 02 but that's me.

[Netkeeper]

I'm hoping 02 isn't ignored or declared non-canon. The epilogue I couldn't give a **** about, but the rest of that series was great and defined Digimon for me since the height of my childhood obsession with it was when 02's dub was airing. I'm confident it'll be a great experience otherwise.

[Allio]

^
I'm so sorry to hear that

https://38.media.tumblr.com/aab9439f6976efc628429932522992aa/tumblr_nbim5d5C9C1qdtdqeo1_1280.jpg

[Netkeeper]

**** off with the dub bashing, right now. That's flamebaiting.

[Allio]

**** off with the dub bashing, right now. That's flamebaiting.

shows you what you know, I was referring to Adventure 02 in general

[Cure]

**** off with the dub bashing, right now. That's flamebaiting.

But you can bash every other thing? Come on, man. Don't be a baby.

[Peanut]

02 dub was awful, but 02 is awful in general, so it's not entirely their fault!

[The Stryker]

Yo, for real. 02's EVERYTHING was really bad.

F*ck Veemon and his lame ass self.

[MikeandRaph87]

Why wouldn't they? The promo said that it'll have 八神太一、17歳. It's definitely going to deal with a 17-year-old Taichi.Yup, same.No because I live in Japan. lol. I'm from Virginia, which is why I have the settings here in EST.

*points to profile*

When I said it was 7:30 something in the morn here, here = Japan.

I see you edited your location. I'm not too far from Richmond.Anyway, wanted to point you to a Kevin Eastman/Jason David Frank meet & greet.


Glad to have Tai back but I want Matt back too. Never quite got the plot reasons for why Davis, Cody, and Yoeli doubled up the other six's strengths and they had to open the gate for the other six to enter yet T.K. and Karai were able to side grade to digi-armor. I am not complaining just 14 years later and still not making sense to me.

[Netkeeper]

shows you what you know, I was referring to Adventure 02 in general
And you say that to someone who just said they liked 02? You're still flamebaiting. I don't care if you don't like 02, but I do, so knock it off.

But you can bash every other thing? Come on, man. Don't be a baby.
He knows I don't like dub bashing and that I'll call it out.

[Cure]

He knows I don't like dub bashing and that I'll call it out.

And I'm sure you know some people don't like the bashing you do of some things, yet here you are playing the victim.

[ssjup81]

I see you edited your location. I'm not too far from Richmond.Anyway, wanted to point you to a Kevin Eastman/Jason David Frank meet & greet.Actually, the only thing I edited was my favorite turtle section. My location has been written this way for the past couple of years.Glad to have Tai back but I want Matt back too. Never quite got the plot reasons for why Davis, Cody, and Yoeli doubled up the other six's strengths and they had to open the gate for the other six to enter yet T.K. and Karai were able to side grade to digi-armor. I am not complaining just 14 years later and still not making sense to me.Well, Adventure was only supposed to be one series and was supposed to end with an epilogue with Yamato and Sora together according the series director. During its run, another series was ordered. Adventure 02 was pretty much promoting the D3 at the time as well as the D-Terminal along with some elements from the Wonderswan games (V-mon, Ken, Wormmon, for example).

Also, for Adventure's continuity, to be chosen one had to be 12 or younger, which was mentioned in Adventure. It's like only kids can help mostly. The 02 ages were...

Jou: 15 (last year of Junior High unless his private school held both junior and high school)
Taichi/Sora/Yamato: 14 (second year at Odaiba Junior High School)
Koushirou: 13 (First year at Odaiba JHS)
Mimi: 13 (First year of JHS if in Japan/maybe last year in NY)

Miyako: 12 (Last year at Odaiba Elementary)
Takeru/Hikari/Daisuke/Ken: 11 (5th year at Odaiba/Tamachi Elementary)
Iori: 9 (3rd year at Odaiba Elementary)

There was an age restriction on being chosen, which was probably why the three vets (Takeru, Hikari, and Ken) could contribute and help while Taichi and the others couldn't.

The show was also being a bit realistic too. Elementary school students have a lot of free time, unless you were like Jou who was attending a cram school since he was trying to get into the private school he's in for 02 (public JHSs don't have entrance exams, but all high schools do). Junior-high-school students don't have as much free time. ES students don't have as much testing, nor do they have mandatory school club activities. For public JHSs, all students must participate in a club activity.

This is more than likely why we saw Koushirou more than Taichi and Yamato more than Sora. Koushirou was in the computer club and Yamato had a music club. Not as time consuming as sports clubs (Taichi had soccer/Sora had tennis) and they don't meet as much. Sports clubs can even meet during school vacations. For example, in movie 4, despite being on spring break, Sora was busy with her tennis club.

For this upcoming series, I could see the following being busy with real life stuff out of the Adventure/Adventure 02 cast....

Jou preparing for university entrance exams as he would be in his final year of high school

Koushirou/Mimi: They would be first year high school students so plenty of testing

Miyako preparing for high school entrance exams

Takeru/Daisuke: I could see both doing a sports club (basketball and soccer respectively)

So yeah...that's my theory.

[ssjup81]

There u go I don't give a damn about Takari or any of those popular ships although Rika/boys are stupid ships the lot of themSo you can say this, and call it stupid, but someone points out legit flaws with Adventure 02's dub (or 02 in general) it's bashing?

[MikeandRaph87]

Actually, the only thing I edited was my favorite turtle section. My location has been written this way for the past couple of years.Well, Adventure was only supposed to be one series and was supposed to end with an epilogue with Yamato and Sora together according the series director. During its run, another series was ordered. Adventure 02 was pretty much promoting the D3 at the time as well as the D-Terminal along with some elements from the Wonderswan games (V-mon, Ken, Wormmon, for example).

Also, for Adventure's continuity, to be chosen one had to be 12 or younger, which was mentioned in Adventure. It's like only kids can help mostly. The 02 ages were...

Jou: 15 (last year of Junior High unless his private school held both junior and high school)
Taichi/Sora/Yamato: 14 (second year at Odaiba Junior High School)
Koushirou: 13 (First year at Odaiba JHS)
Mimi: 13 (First year of JHS if in Japan/maybe last year in NY)

Miyako: 12 (Last year at Odaiba Elementary)
Takeru/Hikari/Daisuke/Ken: 11 (5th year at Odaiba/Tamachi Elementary)
Iori: 9 (3rd year at Odaiba Elementary)

There was an age restriction on being chosen, which was probably why the three vets (Takeru, Hikari, and Ken) could contribute and help while Taichi and the others couldn't.

The show was also being a bit realistic too. Elementary school students have a lot of free time, unless you were like Jou who was attending a cram school since he was trying to get into the private school he's in for 02 (public JHSs don't have entrance exams, but all high schools do). Junior-high-school students don't have as much free time. ES students don't have as much testing, nor do they have mandatory school club activities. For JHS, all students must participate in a club activity.

This is more than likely why we saw Koushirou more than Taichi and Yamato more than Sora. Koushirou was in the computer club and Yamato had a music club. Not as time consuming as sports clubs (Taichi had soccer/Sora had tennis) and they don't meet as much. Sports clubs can even meet during school vacations. For example, in movie 4, despite being on spring break, Sora was busy with her tennis club.

For this upcoming series, I could see the following being busy with real life stuff out of the Adventure/Adventure 02 cast....

Jou preparing for university entrance exams as he would be in his final year of high school

Koushirou/Mimi: They would be first year high school students so plenty of testing

Miyako preparing for high school entrance exams

Takeru/Daisuke: I could see both doing a sports club (basketball and soccer respectively)

So yeah...that's my theory.

Just for future reference could you use their Americanized names for
clarity.:P :lol:

I never caught on to an age limit. I assumed the six older kids were all 12 while T.K. and Karai were 8 at the time. Then fast forward 3 years and they are all 15 while the two younger that still got to participate full time were 11, a year younger than the older six in the first season.

I am a secondary school teacher here in the States and know the system well. Its quite different in Japan and despite the US governments efforts it does not equal the system of your current country. I appreciate your insight and vote of realistic nature it portrays. I thought the producers were trying to force us to appreciate a different set of characters by revolving around T.K. and Karai's age group and pushing the other main ones as side mentor characters. Audiences saw that with Super Sentai and all its live action heroes changing annually not to mention Ash's Pok'emon rotation.

You say that Sora was always intended to be with Matt? Season 1 and Digimon the movie really makes it clear that it was Tai/Sora and Joe/Mimi. I remember as a kid when Matt and Sora fought Phatomon when capturing Karai, thinking it would be funny if Matt ended up with Sora instead and perhaps with Mimi. That was my 12 year old mind. Lo and behold it actually happened as far as the odd pair of Matt/Sora. :lol:

That was back when the only internet spoilers referred to control spires built by a Digimon Kaiser and it was up to T.K. and Karai to restore order. Oh, the days of the primitive internet.

[ssjup81]

Just for future reference could you use their Americanized names for
clarity.:P :lol: If I remember. It's become a habit since I have more exposure to the original than the dub. Even before I saw any of 02, I knew the Japanese names first so out of habit I use them.

Now anything past Adventure, I just don't know the dub names.I never caught on to an age limit.I can't recall, but didn't the first episode of Adventure give a profile? They did for the original as well as their school year and class. Koushirou even gave Mimi's information when they realized they were one kid short. I assumed the six older kids were all 12 while T.K. and Karai were 8 at the time. Then fast forward 3 years and they are all 15 while the two younger that still got to participate full time were 11, a year younger than the older six in the first season.Nope.I am a secondary school teacher here in the States and know the system well. Its quite different in Japan and despite the US governments efforts it does not equal the system of your current country.Yeah, I know that. I was studying to be a teacher back home in VA. I appreciate your insight and vote of realistic nature it portrays. I thought the producers were trying to force us to appreciate a different set of characters by revolving around T.K. and Karai's age group and pushing the other main ones as side mentor characters. Audiences saw that with Super Sentai and all its live action heroes changing annually not to mention Ash's Pok'emon rotation.No problem. You say that Sora was always intended to be with Matt? Season 1 and Digimon the movie really makes it clear that it was Tai/Sora and Joe/Mimi. Yeah, they were the intended couple from the beginning. Watching the Japanese version, I can see how, especially movie 2. Sora was upset, but Taichi didn't get why and there was no indication that he liked her in that way period and was more annoyed than anything else.

As for Jou x Mimi, I like that pairing, it's my fav Joe ship, but my fav Mimi pairing is Koushirou x Mimi. It's my all time fav pairing of any fandom period and I don't know why. lol

Thinking about it, Koushirou x Mimi was way more popular than Jou x Mimi in Japan. Looking back, I wonder if they were going to do something with it but stopped when the show was picked up for another year.

There was the labyrinth ep of Adventure. I liked the original episode much better than the dubbed one and here's why. One thing I liked in a general sense was that Koushirou was partnered up with Mimi's Palmon and Mimi was partnered up with Koushirou's Tentomon. I found it interesting how it was set up that way, and, to my knowledge, this wasn't done for any other characters (at the time). I also liked it better mainly because Koushirou came across as being a bit more concerned about Tentomon and Mimi when comparing him to how "Izzy" acted, imo. Also, when Tentomon was going on about something being wrong after Izzy stopped talking abruptly for the dub, originally, Koushirou was still talking to them and warning them of something else being in the maze with them. For that entire scene, Tentomon didn't speak at all because Koushirou was doing all of the talking. Here, it seemed as if Izzy didn't fully care too much whether they got out safely or not, whereas there, Koushirou was tossing out suggestions to help them more. Izzy came across as too businesslike maybe.

Something else I found interesting about this episode concerning the two regarding their partner switch, was the fact that Palmon was trying to get Koushirou to understand Mimi and Tentomon was trying to get Mimi to understand Koushirou. I just found that incredibly ironic because I'm almost positive (for the Adventure/Adventure 02 group) that this has never been done for any of the other characters.
Oh and there's also the love letter drama they put out for Adventure which is fun to listen to...but I'll start with Joe. lolThe Digimon Adventure dramas Jou ga Kashu Debut! (Part 1) and Jou ga Kashu Debut! (Part 2), which is found on the Digimon Adventure Character Song & Mini Drama 1 CD (the other tracks dealt with Taichi and Sora having a battle against some Digimon on the Rainbow Bridge, and the other was of Sora doing a radio show which was paying homage to her voice actress who actually did haver her own radio show) showed that Jou had a bit of an interest in music and singing in general. After a battle, everyone, minus Taichi and Sora, who were both absent for this drama, seemingly as I don't recall hearing them, complimented Jou on a job well done in the battle.

A woman then showed up and asked Jou if he wanted to become an "idol" and to sing, as that's what the Digimon fans would like. Jou was very excited over the idea of it and he and Gomamon tried to think of a theme he could sing. The next track on the CD is the song he chose to sing, Chigau Boku ga Iru, which is his Digimon Adventure image theme performed by his seiyuu, the famous Kikuchi Masami.

After the song, it goes to the next track, Jou ga Kashu Debut! (Part 2). Jou was confident and ready to become a popular "idol". The woman disappointed Jou, though, by informing him that it turned out that the request wasn't for him. Instead, the request from the fans was for something involving Koushirou and Mimi, "and maybe Hikari". Jou was very disappointed over that. At the end, Koushirou, Mimi, and Hikari say something along the lines of listen to the next CD or something like that. I don't have it with me here to listen to it.

Ironically, the fans wanted a drama dealing with those three, and that's exactly what the fans got. The next drama CD to come out was the Digimon Adventure Character Song & Mini Drama 2. You could say it involved a love triangle. It dealt with Koushirou writing a love-letter, but was caught by Taichi and then the others showed up and they were all trying to figure out who the letter was for, much to Koushirou's apprehension. They tied the poor boy up and gagged him when he ordered Tentomon to evolve to try to get away on Kabuterimon (Mimi told Palmon to pull Kabuterimon back to the ground with her vines) to get out of telling who it was for. The main person everyone figured it was for was Mimi. Mimi didn't mind the idea of it since, to her anyway, she felt she was very likeable. Hikari disagreed with the letter being for her. To make a long story short, Mimi and Hikari ended up getting into a fight, their Digimon battling one another and we never find out who the letter is for, because when Koushirou tells Tentomon, his computer beeps, so all we hear is the "san" part of it, which is ambiguous since Koushirou uses the "san" honorific with all of the girls (Sora, Mimi, Hikari).

It was still a funny drama though. When they mentioned Sora, Sora was like, "I'm not into younger guys." When Hikari was mentioned, Jou pointed out that Koushirou would become part of the Yagami family and Yamato was all like, "I would never allow that to happen if that was my sister," and then it turns out that Taichi was against the idea of Koushirou liking Hikari. Either way, the main person assumed was definitely Mimi. In Japan, the pairing of Koushirou x Mimi was very popular at the time out of the Adventure pairings and is the only one, for the Adventure kids, to literally be focused on in that way just because of fan requests. The third cd drama dealt with Yamato and Takeru, and the Digimon.

OMG, it's hilarious! The kids' Digimon were putting on a show for their partners. Each Digimon was doing a trick or showing off a talent. Patamon did a backwards evolution, Gabumon took off his fur, etc. OH Tentomon spoke without his Kansai accent. Gomamon did impressions which were so bad only Jou clapped. All of the impressions sounded the same. :lol:

The best was Agumon. He sucked and was annoyed that no one was paying attention to him and the other kids were all discussing who was best.Agumon evolved to SkullGreymon and attacked everyone.:lol:I remember as a kid when Matt and Sora fought Phatomon when capturing Karai, thinking it would be funny if Matt ended up with Sora instead and perhaps with Mimi. That was my 12 year old mind. Lo and behold it actually happened as far as the odd pair of Matt/Sora. :lol:You know seems that only outside of Japan is Matt x Mimi popular. Yamato x Mimi isn't at all.That was back when the only internet spoilers referred to control spires built by a Digimon Kaiser and it was up to T.K. and Karai to restore order. Oh, the days of the primitive internet.We had AOHell. lol

[MikeandRaph87]

:lol:I think I misworded it. I meant back when City Under Siege aired for the first time that I thought "It would be funny if a mix matched couple like Matt and Sora happened instead of Sora ending up with Tai". That and when Matt talks Sora out of her "finding her place moment" are really the only two connections those two characters had before Matt suddenly asked her to his concert a dozen episodes into season 2.

As for Mimi I thought it would be funny if to make Sora jealous Tai would date her and actually end up together leaving poor akward Joe in the cold. The key segment in Digimon:The Movie seemed to imply Tai/Sora and Mimi/Joe. I completely missed Matt and Sora always intended to be together and Tai was never jealous but protective of a sister figure like you said. Interesting...

Its funny how we are talking cartoon romantic should/ could have relationships 15 years after it aired. :lol:

Another odd subject, what is up with Mimi's hair in season 2. Its pink with stars in it and then a few episodes later its lighter than her original hair and puffy then it seems to have gone back to the original style. It makes me think the character designers could not settle on a look.

Edit: As for the profiles I only remember Japanese writing with just the Americanized name should top center of the profile much like the Digi profiles were. Considering its all Japanese text that was never translated I never picked up on it. That was why I assumed Tai, Matt, Sora,Mimi, Izzy, and Joe were all the exact same grade/age.

Another Va teacher? Well,could have been atleast. Quite a few of us are educators around here.

[ssjup81]

Oh god I hate the dub movie with an extreme passion...but I've forgotten why. I saw the original movies first though. Maybe that was why. *shrugs*

In Bokura no Wargame, Taichi was annoyed the whole time regarding Sora, so there was nothing from his side. With Sora it could've been interpreted that way. Jou/Mimi was nonexistent.

What was in the dub movie, what was there to imply the pairing?

Oh yeah, I didn't know Matt asked out Sora. I never saw the dub ep.

[MikeandRaph87]

Oh god I hate the dub movie with an extreme passion...but I've forgotten why. I saw the original movies first though. Maybe that was why. *shrugs*

In Bokura no Wargame, Taichi was annoyed the whole time regarding Sora, so there was nothing from his side. With Sora it could've been interpreted that way. Jou/Mimi was nonexistent.

What was in the dub movie, what was there to imply the pairing?

Its been forever since I have seen the movie especially the middle segment that I only really cared about...I will go back and watch in the next x days and get back to you on that. It was something at the beginning of the segment where Tai was looking for her and she seemed to be avoiding him only to make contact at the end at the same time Joe was going to Mimi's house only to find out she was in Hawaii on vacation. It was clear that Joe was going to confess his feelings as he had a heart shaped box of candy if I recall.

I was bored and confused by the Adventure 02 segment. The whole twins of different species and Patamon and Gatomon digivolved to mega level why and never returned to such a form? I watched for Tai and Matt and the plot did not help.

I only discovered the Diaboramon segment having a follow up last year. Really good only I felt like it made the Veemon/Stingmon pair seem more important when Wargraymon/MetalGurumon should not be surpassed. Wonder if there are any more Digimon season 1 segments out there I don't know about. Digi craze did not last in me beyond season 3 and I think most of America felt the same so a lot could be out there like the Diaboramon follow up you all could point out.

[ssjup81]

Jou spent the movie taking his entrance exam for the school he's attending in 02 or either it was just another test. I don't fully recall. At the end he left in relief because he got through it.

The heart thing must was shown out of order. I own the original movies. When Taichi was trying to call everyone, he was wondering where Mimi was. His mother gave him a postcard from Mimi saying she was in Hawaii and they showed the mailbox at the Tachikawa home being overly stuffed. They also showed the Tachikawa heart-shaped nameplate on their apartment door falling...well that's my memory of it anyway. I may be off with the order, but it was a Taichi scene, not Jou. Either they showed it when Taichi tried calling, getting the machine or after the postcard thing.

That aside, the problem is that they combined three movies together and tried to link their plots. Like "Izzy" knowing "Willis" for the middle part of the movie I think.

Movie 3 for example with the 02 kids dealt with the abduction/disappearances of the older kids. The 02 kids had to rescue them.

Takeru and Hikari were visiting Mimi in NY. She disappeared right in front of them. Her Digivice beeped and she disappeared. Back in Japan, the same thing happened. Taichi was playing with a soccer ball and he vanished, leaving the ball eerily bouncing behind, Sora was doing ikebana (flower arranging) when she vanished, Koushirou was at home on his computer, Yamato was on his bass, and Jou was taking a test.

The thing they all had in common was that they had regular model Digivices. They were all taken to a realm and were being aged backwards. Wallace's Gumimon (I think it was) who eventually became Wendimon was infected or whatever and was trying to find Wallace. He doesn't know him older, so the older kids being aged backwards was his way of searching. Getting back to the age he was before he was separated from him because that's how he remembered him.

Movie 3 was really a stand alone, non canon film. It was promoting the golden Digimental that would eventually be seen in the show as well as Magnamon. This film came out before the show got to that point.

Oh yeah, Taichi never went looking for Sora in the original movie 2. Tai did for the middle part of the dub film? At the end of Bokura no Wargame, Taichi's email finally got through to Sora with his to the point apology (there was nothing about it that could be interpreted as romantic, 'cept for the accidental heart) and Sora accepted, calling him stupid with a laugh, and sent a photo back of her wearing the hair pins he'd given her for her birthday. Sora was offended by the present initially and was trying to approach him at times but would get mad again and decide against it.

Something interesting to note, the series show director had nothing to do with the Taichi/Sora stuff for the film. It should've never been there as well as the implied birthdate for Sora and doesn't consider that canon. The only character whose info has been revealed or implied has been Miyako (Yolei). Her blood type is AB and she's a Gemini. It was mentioned in 02 when her sisters (Chizuru and Momoe) were looking at astrology related stuff in a magazine. I'm pretty sure it's the ep where Hawkmon evolved to Aquilamon the first time.

[Netkeeper]

And I'm sure you know some people don't like the bashing you do of some things, yet here you are playing the victim.
lmao, I'm not trying to act like some kind of victim. I'm not sitting here expecting you to feel sorry for me. I don't give a **** about that.

I'm just not going to tolerate people trying to gang up on me for daring to prefer something in my own language that I've loved since childhood. You can have your opinion, but I can tell you to piss off if you want to act like your tastes are any more deep and meaningful than mine. It's a franchise of boys-marketed Tamagotchis for Christ's sake.

[Allio]

Yo, for real. 02's EVERYTHING was really bad.

F*ck Veemon and his lame ass self.

I liked Magnamon

but then again, I just love all the Royal Knights. Hoping to see Jesmon/Gankoomon in the new adventure series

[ssjup81]

I liked Magnamon

but then again, I just love all the Royal Knights. Hoping to see Jesmon/Gankoomon in the new adventure series
To be honest, I liked the music for the series more than the series itself. lol. I still enjoy listening to the soundtracks to Adventure/Adventure 02 occasionally. I always liked the bgm. I also really liked the characters.

[Netkeeper]

I really liked 02's villains. Oikawa's end still makes me tear up. The armour evolution concept was also really nice, the Digimon designs are still some of my favourites.

As an adult, I can't say I'm a huge fan of 02's scattered writing direction, but I still find it fun and entertaining. The only problem is that it's harder to really defend it because it's so flawed.

[Leofan26]

Wow, didn't realize how much of a difference the dub was compared to the original flick. What the heck? Toying around with Sora x Tai fans hearts dub :x

Question : How popular was Tai x Sora compared to Matt x Sora in Japan? I always thought it was more popular. Man was I disappointed when it didn't happen :(

I know T.K x Karai was a big thing in both 01 and 02.

Don't know about Joe x Mimi. I was rooting for the pairing but alas I think she ended up with that Michal Guy who was introduced to us in 02. Her kid looks so much like him.

I know back when 02 was airing the dub changed a lot of what originally was done just cuz of the hatred the guy had towards Davis, that pissed me off :x

I am curious how they'll handle the 02 cast while at least Tai is in the main cast again and resumes his role of leadership.

[ssjup81]

Wow, didn't realize how much of a difference the dub was compared to the original flick. What the heck? Toying around with Sora x Tai fans hearts dub :xIt's a cute pair, but if anything, it could've been interpreted that Sora had feelings for him since she became so offended in the first place, but from Taichi's side, there was definitely nothing. If I recall correctly, when he ordered Koushirou to call Sora, I think he was like, "You made her mad, didn't you?" lol. I could be remembering that wrong though.Question : How popular was Tai x Sora compared to Matt x Sora in Japan? I always thought it was more popular. Man was I disappointed when it didn't happen :(It was popular, definitely. The two childhood friends growing up together and eventually getting together is a popular concept. lol. Taichi and Sora have known each other since Hikarigaoka (Heighton View Terrace I think it was). They went to Daisan Elementary School and both were in class 1-2 (year 1, class 2) and ended up together again when their families moved to Odaiba and going to Odaiba Elementary and sharing the same class again. This was mentioned in Adventure.

Taichi and Sora were in their first year of elementary school (Daisan, 1-2)
Yamato attended Daiyon Elementary, first year.
Jou was a year 2 student at Daigo Elementary.
Mimi attended Wakaba Yochien (Yochien = kindergarten)

The only character whose school wasn't mentioned was Koushirou's because he didn't live in Hikarigaoka long compared to the other characters, and when asked why, he couldn't give a straight answer, but he did say he was a kindergarten student. Makes me wonder where his family lived before the apartment in Hikarigaoka.I know T.K x Karai was a big thing in both 01 and 02.Yeah. For me I didn't mind the pairing...I had a prob with some of the fans that were Daisuke/Davis bashers. Some fans also got a fic of mine taken down by reporting it and lying over the reason.

The fic was done (unfinished) about 12 years ago. Here's the synopsis...This fic is going to look at Takari in a more negative light. You have to admit, Takari is a bit overly praised by the fandom, which is why I decided to try and write something a bit different, and believe me, this is different for a person like me, as I have written the two paired up before. For this fic, though, I'm not sure if I want to keep the two together or not, but this does start off as a Takari.

Oh, and something else, I don't hate Takari at all...just not into the pairing as much as I used to be due to its being so common now, so if you have a problem with this story's premise, I advise you not to read it, as the pair will not be happy in their relationship, but neither realizes it or notices it because they're both hiding behind their masks and staying with one another for the sake of the other person, if that makes sense. They're together because they feel obligated to be as people treat them as if they're destined to be together.. I was flamed by adamant fans of the pair, while others liked the premise.
Don't know about Joe x Mimi. I was rooting for the pairing but alas I think she ended up with that Michal Guy who was introduced to us in 02. Her kid looks so much like him.Personally, I feel he looks like Mimi, but who knows and if she did end up with Michael, I'm pretty sure they would've mentioned it since he wasn't an unknown character.

I like Jou x Mimi, but I simply love and adore Koushirou x Mimi. I still have no idea why.I know back when 02 was airing the dub changed a lot of what originally was done just cuz of the hatred the guy had towards Davis, that pissed me off :xYup, which is why I stopped watching 02's dub. I couldn't take the forced bashing with Davis. It always felt unnatural and off...lo and behold, I was right. lol

There is a dub addition that comes to mind. The ep where Kari was trapped in the Digital World. That was also the episode where Yamato was forced to accept a date with Jun (Daisuke's sister) and where "Matt" had to hurry back because he left "Mimi on the phone". *Sighs*. I hate dub additions like that. For the original, Yamato was in a hurry to get back because he had to cook dinner for his father. Yamato's actually a good cook, which Takeru compliments and references. It was also shown that he was a good cook back in Adventure when he was working at the diner to help out Jou...well, to me he came across as being a decent cook.

There's another one that ep that kind of bothered me...Izzy. When they got back, Koushirou was sitting there waiting for them, disgruntled and upset.

For the dub, "Izzy" was upset with them because no one had informed him on what had happened with "Kari" and how "Tai" knew and how "Matt" knew, etc. He came across as a whiner to me for that, which was OOC to me. For the original, Koushirou was upset with them for going to the Digital World without someone staying back to monitor the computer because a teacher or anyone could have come in and seen the gate up there or either shut the computer off, stranding them in the Digital World. He was bothered by their carelessness.I am curious how they'll handle the 02 cast while at least Tai is in the main cast again and resumes his role of leadership.I couldn't see them not having them around. I hope they use them.

[Netkeeper]

Wow, didn't realize how much of a difference the dub was compared to the original flick. What the heck? Toying around with Sora x Tai fans hearts dub :x
Yeeeeah I absolutely cannot defend the dub movie. It's awful. I still enjoy it, but only ironically because damn dub those are some jokes you're jamming into this thing!

But to be fair, I think the biggest problems with the dub movie lie in the fact that they were trying to connect two movies together like that so that it made sense, and combining those two movies [Our War Game and Hurricane Touchdown I think are their names? I haven't gotten around to actually seeing the subbed version of either since they're non-canon and I don't know if I can deal with Diaboromon not going "Hello! Hello! Hello!" DOES THAT HAPPEN IN THE ORIGINAL TOO I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT A SEMICONDUCTOR IS] wasn't something Jeff Nimoy wanted to do in the first place.

He was forced to do a lot of **** he didn't want to for Digimon's dub. That's why Tamers was done so well -- because it was the dub where the censors fell asleep and Nimoy got to do more of what he wanted.

On a totally unrelated and slightly nitpicky note, the first series is just Adventure, not 01; the second one was named 02 because it takes place in the year 2002, which was basically twenty minutes into the future (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture) -- careful that's a TVTropes link -- when it was released.

[MikeandRaph87]

I honestly got the impression that Tai liked Sora and that they were meant to be. Its funny how a funny thought of her with bad boy best friend Matt ending up with her instead actually happening. I suppose that was mistranslated in the dub of the Adventure series and second movie segment.


Were there more segments that suggested Matt/Sora before Matt asked her to one of his concert and getting approval from Tai? There was watching over Karai before Phantomon took her and another when Matt helped her find herself as he and Joe just did but Joe was in the mix too not just the two of them bonding. Perhaps American audiences are lead to believe the Tai/Sora relationship over the Matt/Sora relationship as an issue of dubbing.

It was not long ago I learned it was three short films woven together. I can tell the Adventure 02 segment is out of continuity. It was not the fact I prefer Tai and Matt to T.K. and Karai its just the segment was just boring and confusing if anything.


I am curious, while I see a few things that make Adventure 02 flawed I would like to see your list of what makes it flawed.

[Netkeeper]

IIRC, a little more Taiora subtext was added to the dub, but Sorato was meant to be endgame all along. This Sorato blog talks a lot about that (http://jippy-kandi.tumblr.com/), and there was even some interviews, but god I can't be arsed to look through the walls of text to find it. I can understand both ships, but I just don't care enough about those ships to really go either way.

In regards to 02, and I say this as a huge fan of it, the flaws I feel lie in the scattered writing direction. There simply wasn't enough episodes for them to implement all the things they wanted to do. That really strange Dark Ocean that appeared in Episode 13 was hardly elaborated upon after that because Konaka created it, and they REALLY should have tried to do more with it...

Introducing Jogressing was a cool concept, but I feel that it was wasted potential, because they could have written in combinations for all the Digimon and the kids could mix and match for different scenarios, similar to what they did with armour evolving, AND it would double as a good chance to develop the dynamics between any two characters. I would have liked to see Ken and Cody bonding a little more, as well as TK and Davis. [Yes, I use dub names, now you don't have to point it out to me.]

In the later half of the show, there were a LOT of villains and it wasn't really clear at first who the big bad was going to, or supposed to be. I mean, who didn't think the final battle in 02 was going to be with Daemon, while they were watching it? He was thrown in, then tossed back into the discarded Dark Ocean [fitting, I guess] without actually doing much. Make no mistake, that was one of my favourite Ken moments, but it certainly feels lacking. We've got no investment against the villain, Daemon, and we've got no real sense of "risk" being taken because we don't know jack **** about the Dark Ocean.

Also there's that whole MarshMaloMyotismon thing going on at the end and I don't think I need to mention the epilogue.

[ssjup81]

I honestly got the impression that Tai liked Sora and that they were meant to be. Its funny how a funny thought of her with bad boy best friend Matt ending up with her instead actually happening. I suppose that was mistranslated in the dub of the Adventure series and second movie segment.Another dub addition. Yamato was never a "bad boy". Maybe Matt was.

As for movie 2, according to one of the interviews (and if I was at home and not the hospital I'd try to find it) the series director had nothing to do with the "Taichi x Sora" implications. I'm sure if the series as a whole had ended when it was intentionally meant to, the Yamato x Sora thing probably would've been more obvious.Were there more segments that suggested Matt/Sora before Matt asked her to one of his concert and getting approval from Tai? He didn't ask Sora to a concert to my knowledge. They were all invited as they are friends.

I think they just tried to show that they could relate more in some ways to one another, but tbh I can't remember very much. The novel, to my knowledge subtly hint towards it.

The series director mentioned that all three was to help all of them grow or whatever in some way.

Also, in the original there was no need to get approval from Taichi because neither Yamato nor Sora knew of his feelings towards Sora. There was nothing in that original scene to even imply it. Taichi just urged her to stop being nervous and to give her gift to Yamato. She thanked him for the most part after that from what I recall. Agumon complimented Taichi after that on being mature. He picked up on it.

Only the dub, seemingly, set it up so that Sora needed Tai's approval to face Matt. I also heard that Sora said she was going to make Tai cookies too or something, which is totally off, as it would make her look like she's playing both boys.

Sora giving Yamato a homemade gift speaks volumes. In Japanese culture, making a food gift by hand for someone shows that your feelings aren't friendly and beyond that.

For example, for Valentine's Day, women/girls give out chocolates to men/boys. They even sell chocolate making kits in the stores here round about that time.

There's three kinds: Honmei, Tomo, and Giri.

Honmei = Homemade

Tomo = Tomodachi = Friendship

Giri = Obligation

Honmei Chocolate is made using the kits and decorated by said girl and is usually given to her bf, husband, or romantic interest. Oh and to be nice, some mothers may make some Choco for their sons. lol. Feel sorry for them maybe.

Tomo Choco is given to friends and store bought. Some girls may give them to their female friends too. It's a newer thing.

Giri Choco is maybe given to one's male coworkers.There was watching over Karai before Phantomon took her and another when Matt helped her find herself as he and Joe just did but Joe was in the mix too not just the two of them bonding. Perhaps American audiences are lead to believe the Tai/Sora relationship over the Matt/Sora relationship as an issue of dubbing. I think for the original (and sorry I don't remember either well,) showed that Yamato understood Sora well enough to get her out of her funk. Yes Jou was there, but it was Yamato who was able to get through to her.It was not long ago I learned it was three short films woven together. I can tell the Adventure 02 segment is out of continuity. It was not the fact I prefer Tai and Matt to T.K. and Karai its just the segment was just boring and confusing if anything.The pacing of movie 3 was a bit slow and the soundtrack wasn't all that great either save for the vocal op/ed, but the original did make sense. I also liked Wallace's "English". The acting wasn't the best, but the pronunciation was ok. I also liked the excuse they used as to why he could speak and understand Japanese. lol

Movie 3 was very standalone, but even I can't remember everything regarding Seraphimon and Holydramon being the key to releasing the Digimental of Miracles and Fate to armor evolve Wallace and Daisuke's Digimon.

Wallace figured out what was going on and was trying to get to a place called Summer Memory, I think, as that was where he lost the twin Digimon.
I am curious, while I see a few things that make Adventure 02 flawed I would like to see your list of what makes it flawed.Oh, well the Holy Ring thing never sat right with me and how Tailmon had to lose it...but I'm only saying this because I don't recall the reason and remember being confused by it. ^^

Overall, I just felt they could've gotten more story out of Adventure in general, so ending it after 02 was a bother.

Demon and Dagomon. I really wanted more on Demon especially. A story of him escaping the dark world and killing Dagomon to do it to try and conquer both the Digital World and the human world. This is my main issue with the series. Dagomon I can overlook, Demon not so much. A lot of potential there, especially since he seemed to act on his own.

It got to the point where the kids didn't want to kill their Digimon enemies, which made a lot of sense. Up until that point, neither Daisuke, Miyako, nor Iori ever had to. They'd only had to fight Dark Tower Digimon and prior to that, they only had to destroy the rings and spirals and the Digimon went back to normal.

It bothered me how fans at the time were critical of the 02 characters, pointing out that the Adventure kids killed left and right. Not comparable. The Adventure kids were in a killed or be killed situation the majority of the time. The 02 kids were in a controlled situation where they could easily go home restrategize and go back. Also, Iori was so against killing because his own father was killed protecting a government official. He saw things in black & white. All killing = bad.

So here's the flaw to me... Takeru, Hikari, and Ken. All three had adventures in the Digital World that required killing enemy Digimon. Ken was screwed up because he and Ryou killed Milleniumon. I never got why they didn't have them say something to help ease their qualms over it.

I never had a problem with the epilogue other than I wanted more story first. I like the idea of Takeru writing stories about his Digital World adventures and at least there was drama to show how it was his mother's idea to start writing in the first place, sorta like how Sora's mother got her into tennis.

[Netkeeper]

Thanks for adding more input in regards to Sorato/Taiora. It's been too long since I've seen the subs and even when I watch them I don't really pay attention to the shipping subtext. The part about Valentine's was interesting.

Oh, well the Holy Ring thing never sat right with me and how Tailmon had to lose it...but I'm only saying this because I don't recall the reason and remember being confused by it. ^^
As far as I know, she only lost the tail ring because plot needed her to be as weak as the others, since her strength goes down a whole level when she loses it. It was just a plot device. She gets it back at the end of the series because the writers didn't need her to be weak any more.

It bothered me how fans at the time were critical of the 02 characters, pointing out that the Adventure kids killed left and right. Not comparable. The Adventure kids were in a killed or be killed situation the majority of the time. The 02 kids were in a controlled situation where they could easily go home restrategize and go back. Also, Iori was so against killing because his own father was killed protecting a government official. He saw things in black & white. All killing = bad.
Thank you THANK YOU THANK YOU. It made SENSE for the 02 kids to go through that "we can't kill these Digimon" phase, though I will admit, it felt kinda forced in some areas and I think it could have been developed a little better.

I never had a problem with the epilogue other than I wanted more story first. I like the idea of Takeru writing stories about his Digital World adventures and at least there was drama to show how it was his mother's idea to start writing in the first place, sorta like how Sora's mother got her into tennis.
Yeah, my main problem with the epilogue is that it ends the series the way it does with this "everyone gets a Digimon, babies ever after, hurray!" kinda note, and that some of the future developments don't make any god damn sense.

[Is there any explanation for Matt being an astronaut, I haven't looked into the supplemental material that might offer information like this]

[ssjup81]

I thought knowledge of Digimon became apparent, not that everyone received them.

Oh yeah, I know folks had issues with the occupations, but they all made sense to an extent. I could picture Taichi as an ambassador.

Sora: A designer of traditional Japanese clothing made loads of sense. She was strongly influenced by her mother. She even started playing tennis, also an influence from her mother who helped Sora. Sora was also practicing the traditional art of Japanese flower arranging.

Yamato: Astronaut/engineer. Makes sense given that he's really smart. He was the one to fix Nanomon in Adventure. He always struck me as private, quiet, and as a loner though, so I could see him not having a problem going out into space. As a musician, I could see it bothering him after a while since he does come across as the type who would value privacy. As an astronaut he can keep that.

Jou: Well, this goes without saying. He came from a family of doctors. It was a Kido family tradition dating back to the Edo era. Jou and Shin (oldest) became doctors, Shuu (the middle brother that always missed major Digimon related stuff) switched his major to humanities. He didn't want to become a doctor.

Koushirou as a researcher made a lot of sense as he's the type when asking a question will definitely try to find the answers to them.

Mimi as a food analyst/researcher/ cooking show host also made a lot of sense. An on running gag of the series is that Mimi likes strange food combinations. She got this from her mother who always prepared strange foods. For example, there's that ep in Adventure where everyone talked about what the liked with their eggs. In the original the kids mentioned stuff like mayo or soy sauce, salt & pepper, and I think Yamato mentioned ketchup. Koushirou mentioned he liked his eggs with ponzu, which is a citrus like vinegary type sauce (I've never had it with egg lol). The kids thought he was strange, but Mimi topped that. She liked her eggs prepared with sugar and natto. I can't even fathom that combination. lol To this day, I still find it ironic how only these two were viewed as strange for the way they liked their eggs. So yeah, Mimi combining different foods to create something tasty and new makes sense to me.

Miyako as a housewife...I could see it, as she did seem to come across as traditional and thinking about marriage in the future.

Ken as a detective...sorta. He had done many terrible things as the Digimon Kaiser. Doing a job where he's fighting for justice and protecting the innocent works imo, to make up for the innocents he harmed.

Takeru as a writer makes sense. Parental influence. He expresses himself with words like Yamato did with music (father's influence). Takeru's mother is a writer...well nonfiction like news articles iirc. After all that happened with BelialVamdemon she suggested that he write about everything, which led to hid writing the Digimon Adventure series.

Hikari as a kindergarten/nursery school teacher is also plausible. She's nurturing and kind. She would be very good with kids aged 2-5 imo.

Daisuke...well for me he gave off the impression of always trying to make everyone happy or try to bring people together. The soup he ate made him feel very good and happy and he shared that with others. Even if he wouldn't have started ramen stands, I think it would've been something close to it. I just could see him serving others to make them happy.

Iori getting into law with ethics makes sense. Putting away criminals, but the thing is that I could see this working both ways (defense/prosecution). Defending those he feels are innocent or prosecuting those who are guilty. He has such a strong sense of justice to always do the right thing, which is why his getting into law suits him, imo. Also, it runs in the family. His father was a cop, his grandfather was one (hence the kendo, as in Japan stuff like Judo and Kendo are required for cops).

So yeah...this is why I didn't groan and whine over the epilogue, although I do kinda wish Miyako had done something outside of being a housewife...although, it was shown how untraditional for a Japanese girl she was, hence Hawkmon as her partner, but also wanting to be ladylike. That's my impression anyway.

[Netkeeper]

Oh yeah, I know folks had issues with the occupations, but they all made sense to an extent. I could picture Taichi as an ambassador.
Yeah, some of them did make sense. Others I just either didn't like or they felt like ass-pulls. Forever butthurt over Matt being an astronaut lmao

Sora: A designer of traditional Japanese clothing made loads of sense. She was strongly influenced by her mother. She even started playing tennis, also an influence from her mother who helped Sora. Sora was also practicing the traditional art of Japanese flower arranging.
This is one I didn't like. Yeah, it did show that she and her mother grew close, which was a nice touch, but I was disappointed that she grew out of her tomboyishness a lot. As a kid, that's what I liked the most about her.

Yamato: Astronaut/engineer. Makes sense given that he's really smart. He was the one to fix Nanomon in Adventure. He always struck me as private, quiet, and as a loner though, so I could see him not having a problem going out into space. As a musician, I could see it bothering him after a while since he does come across as the type who would value privacy.
Yeah, people that think he should have remained a musician were kinda off the rails, and not enough people acknowledge his intelligence simply because he isn't like Joe or Izzy about it... but astronaut. Really. In what universe did that seem like a logical thing. One criticism I watched of the Digimon series pointed out how all of them had to be super successful [this one along with Davis' noodle cart being on the ****ing cover of Time magazine was ridiculous] instead of just average working people.

Mimi as a food analyst/researcher/ cooking show host also made a lot of sense. An on running gag of the series is that Mimi likes strange food combinations. She got this from her mother who always prepared strange foods. For example, there's that ep in Adventure where everyone talked about what the liked with their eggs. In the original the kids mentioned stuff like mayo or soy sauce, salt & pepper, and I think Yamato mentioned ketchup. Koushirou mentioned he liked his eggs with ponzu, which is a citrus like vinegary type sauce (I've never had it with egg lol). The kids thought he was strange, but Mimi topped that. She liked her eggs prepared with sugar and natto. I can't even fathom that combination. lol To this day, I still find it ironic how only these two were viewed as strange for the way they liked their eggs. So yeah, Mimi combining different foods to create something tasty and new makes sense to me.
I kinda liked this one too, but it had to grow on me.

Also that episode regarding the eggs is one of my favourite dub vs sub comparisons because both of them make me bust out with laughter. In the dub, Izzy's was ****ing MUSTARD AND JELLYBEANS. WHAT THE **** IZZY I LOVE YOU KID, THE LINE WAS DELIVERED IN THIS MOST CASUAL OF WAYS AND IT WAS GREAT.

Ken as a detective...sorta. He had done many terrible things as the Digimon Kaiser. Doing a job where he's fighting for justice and protecting the innocent works imo, to make up for the innocents he harmed.
No but you don't UNDERSTADN I LOVE THIS ONE. He looked so great in that outfit. Though it kinda does have that same dark side to it as he had during that MaloMyotismon vision thing, huh? He probably took that one up because it was another way for him to work through his own guilt. :<

Hikari as a kindergarten/nursery school teacher is also plausible. She's nurturing and kind. She would be very good with kids aged 2-5 imo.
I LIKED THIS ONE TOO. Another cute dub detail is that the woman that voiced her also voiced Takato's teacher in Tamers.

Daisuke...well for me he gave off the impression of always trying to make everyone happy or try to bring people together. The soup he ate made him feel very good and happy and he shared that with others. Even if he wouldn't have started ramen stands, I think it would've been something close to it. I just could see him serving others to make them happy.
I could get behind him and his noodle cart, just... not being on the cover of Time magazine. That was laughable and I can't take it seriously, it just had to be a joke.

Iori getting into law with ethics makes sense. Putting away criminals, but the thing is that I could see this working both ways (defense/prosecution). Defending those he feels are innocent or prosecuting those who are guilty. He has such a strong sense of justice to always do the right thing, which is why his getting into law suits him, imo. Also, it runs in the family. His father was a cop, his grandfather was one (hence the kendo, as in Japan stuff like Judo and Kendo are required for cops).
NO BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THIS WAS THE BEST ONE. I think someone on 02's writing staff really liked Cody because of details like this, and his coming back for Oikawa near the end [THAT STILL MAKES ME CRY DAMN IT]. I mean they COULD have taken the easy route and had him be a cop, too, but his sense of justice developed even subtly during 02 and that change being reflected in his career choice WAS SO GREAT. If there's nothing else I want in the new Adventure series, I want it to develop this kid more.

So yeah...this is why I didn't groan and whine over the epilogue, although I do kinda wish Miyako had done something outside of being a housewife...although, it was shown how untraditional for a Japanese girl she was, hence Hawkmon as her partner.
Yeeeah being a housewife just seemed kinda out of character for her. I mean sure, people change, but if she changed that much, I can't really see her getting with Ken. [And having that many kids, too. Damn guys slow down!]

[ssjup81]

Thanks for adding more input in regards to Sorato/Taiora. It's been too long since I've seen the subs and even when I watch them I don't really pay attention to the shipping subtext. The part about Valentine's was interesting.I've never seen the dub version of that scene, only the original. ^^

Oh and also, in Japan Christmas is more so a romantic holiday for older people. Younger kids have "Santa-san" but other than that Christmas isn't a big deal here and is very commercialized.As far as I know, she only lost the tail ring because plot needed her to be as weak as the others, since her strength goes down a whole level when she loses it. It was just a plot device. She gets it back at the end of the series because the writers didn't need her to be weak any more.Oh yeah, that's right! She was a level higher than everyone else and her source of power came from her Holy Ring! For the card games at the time, for a Jorgress Evolution you needed two adult levels (that's rookie, right? It's been too long lol) to get a Perfect level (I think this was ultimate in English).

With armor Digimon, you had to be a child level.

There is a drama called Michi e no armor shinka. It was funny because the 02 Digimon ended up evolving to alt armor Digimon because Jou mixed up the D-Terminals and thus mixed up Digimentals. The drama overall was hilarious. It would take place in February 2003.

It was a valentine drama too. It was mainly about Daisuke wanting to become cooler to the girls. He went to Koushirou first I think. He went to Yamato too (learn how to play an instrument but failed). The Koushirou one was hilarious though!

He wanted to learn how to use the computer and Daisuke was even speaking in super polite Japanese, which Koushirou told him to stop doing because it was strange.

Long story short, it didn't work out and Daisuke started hitting the computer because it wasn't working right. Koushirou and Tentomon yelled at him. Koushirou was legit angry and his temperament is generally always cool. At the end, it sounded like something was thrown at the boy when rushing out. I always joked that Koushirou threw Tentomon in a mild "Hulk smash" kind of way.

The other subplot involved all of the girls being captured by some weird Digimon. The girls were shopping for Valentine stuff. In order to enter the area the guys needed a distraction....get this. They....danced or something. Yamato even shouted to Sora that he loved her I think and I guess he didn't mind embarrassing himself for her.

Oh yeah, Daisuke also tried to become the Digimon Kaiser. He dark evolved. He figured the girls would like him more. Personally I loved this! He was terrible because he was too nice.

Anyway at the very end of the drama after the mixed up armors, the Adventure kids' Digimon evolved to nonexistent Digimon because they were left out.

The most interest was Piyomon's. She evolved into..something I forgot. Maybe parrot like. She kept repeating the same line. Something along lines of "Does Yamato really care about me" with an embarrassed Sora pleading for her to stop...so she must've discussed it before.

These dramas can be super goofy. :lol:

[Leofan26]

I don't know, I understood Cody's / Sora's / Davis / Mimi / Joe, maybe Tai's a little.

To me, Matt's and Ken's felt a little out of here. I think Izzy would have been better fit for an Astronaut for obvious reasons in my opinion. Matt should have just been a retired popular world wide rock star raising his family now with Sora. WTF Kind of job is that for Ken? I know we've got detectives in real live for higher to help us but just didn't seem right for him. I think Ken should have been a therapist instead, help people with issues that he could relate to and help people open up like he did finally at the end of the series.

Oh yah, T.K and Karai's jobs made sense too. Karai hinted at the end that she wanted to become a teacher when she was older, congrats to her for making her dream become a reality :D

T.K being the one to experience the most of all the kids in the past Adventures. One thing I never understood, both T.K and Karai's kids sure did look a lot a like, almost like they got married and had kids but we never got confirmation if they did or not :lol:

In order for me to understand Matt x Sora's I guess being meant for one another this entire time? They really should have had more interactions and moments besides that cave scene at the end of 01 Adventures, just seemed so sudden :ohwell:

Maybe it's just me being a Tai x Sora fan :lol:

[ssjup81]

Personally, any job with Ken protecting innocents makes sense to me. Even in 02 later on, even though he had friends and was forgiven, the guilt still didn't leave him. His desire when caught up in BelialVamdemon's illusionary world was to be punished/killed for all that he did and still blamed himself for Osamu's death. He overcame it, but that still didn't mean that it fully went away. Ken to me had a lot of turmoil and guilt. His actions led to Wormmom's death. He blamed himself as the reason for his brother's death and parents' sadness.

With all that happening at such a young age, I could understand Ken still feeling this guilt way after the fact. Protecting the innocent as a detective (or anything of this nature) to ease his guilt seems very logical to me.

To be honest, Koushirou as an astronaut I couldn't see suiting him unless he actually had an interest. The thing to remember about him is that he's knowledgeable and decent at recalling some facts, but strikes me as a Sherlock Holmes type. He's an intelligent type...but only when it came to things that interested him. For instance, some people may have had general knowledge pertaining to astronomy, but Sherlock was ignorant of such things because it didn't interest him. I feel Koushirou is the same. He only seems to seek out information on the things he has a genuine curiosity about.

Yamato strikes me as the type that enjoys solitude or wouldn't have a prob with it. He also strikes me as being private. As the frontman of a band, I could see it becoming tiresome for him after a while. Honestly, if he'd continued with music, I could see him becoming a music arranger or a composer, something behind the scenes.

As for him with Sora...it's probably like the whole Satoshi (Ash)!x Kasumi (Misty) thing. Personally, I feel that it was going in that direction in the first series, but after the show became popular, and didn't end when it was originally supposed to have, they changed it up. If Adventure had gone the way it was originally intended maybe it would have shown more hints towards the pair.

[MikeandRaph87]

Interesting observations, these are the problems I had with Adventure 02. It was a good season but not fantastic. Hard to compete with Adventure 01. I never understood why the older six were pushed back with T.K. and Kari remaining as apart of the core. It appears to be like how the Tai/Sora angle was accidently created and Matt/Sora coming out of nowhere lost in translation literally. I understand now. However in no particular order.

1. It was messy trying to explain roles of Myotismon's pawns Ken and how these dark roots are a battery to resurrect Myotismon yet act more likea slowly developing super solider serum.

2. The exact role of the dark towers. Was it to keep anyone from Digivolving and how were those things constructed.

3. The Dark Ocean. Where did come from and what was its exact role? Biggest dropped plot. Also, the shadowy villain from the Dark Ocean that swore he would get revenge on T.K. and Kari in particular.


4. Who created this Digi-armor once the Digimon of the Digi Destined were forced to go back to square one? Geni is the obvious anwer but it was never explained.

5. Was that Devimon of File Island in the whirlpool. Was he MarineDevimon and he was that easily absorbed?

6. What happened to the golden armor? It was a one time thing. After the Digimon did not have to worry about digivolution being blocked what happened to the digi-armor?

7. Everyone knows about Digimon so everyone gets a partner? Whatever happen to selecting the best of the bunch of the then youth. Neither season touched on the Digi Destined before Tai and gang.

Myotismon surviving twice and somehow sidegrading to another Motis form? Was MaloMyotismon like SkullGreymon?

[ssjup81]

Interesting observations, these are the problems I had with Adventure 02. It was a good season but not fantastic. Hard to compete with Adventure 01. I never understood why the older six were pushed back with T.K. and Kari remaining as apart of the core. Their ages. This was pointed out in Adventure that you had to be 12 or under to be chosen for Adventure's continuity. The same applied in 02. The six older kids were 13+. Koushirou and Mimi just missed out by a year.It appears to be like how the Tai/Sora angle was accidently created and Matt/Sora coming out of nowhere lost in translation literally. I understand now. However in no particular order.Maybe it was subtly done. Who knows. I liked Taichi x Sora, but ironically, before starting 02, I started liking Yamato x Sora for some reason. I'm a fan of both pairings and the preference shifted with my mood.

I still feel that if Adventure had ended when it was intentionally supposed to have, maybe they would've focused a bit more on it.1. It was messy trying to explain roles of Myotismon's pawns Ken and how these dark roots are a battery to resurrect Myotismon yet act more likea slowly developing super solider serum.Ken was infected by the dark gear things after defeating Milleniumon with Ryo. Gane continuity, as Ken and Ryou are game characters from the Wonderswan games. I found a Wonderswan Color about 10 years ago along with the games they're featured in. Wish my mind wasn't hazy on the story though.

Seems they combined everything for 02's sake.2. The exact role of the dark towers. Was it to keep anyone from Digivolving and how were those things constructed.This was explained in the original, I just forgot why. lol. As for the construction, that is a good question.3. The Dark Ocean. Where did come from and what was its exact role? Biggest dropped plot. Also, the shadowy villain from the Dark Ocean that swore he would get revenge on T.K. and Kari in particular.It was Dagomon. That was the villain, wasn't it? I also don't recall him specifically wanting revenge in them though.

That aside, I understand how they foreshadowed the dark digital world stuff we see later, but yeah they should've brought Konaka back to do another ep.4. Who created this Digi-armor once the Digimon of the Digi Destined were forced to go back to square one? Geni is the obvious anwer but it was never explained.i thought it was in the original. I can't remember now, but I could've sworn this was explained during the Christmas eps...unless it was a game thing.5. Was that Devimon of File Island in the whirlpool. Was he MarineDevimon and he was that easily absorbed?You have a better memory if 02 than I do. I don't recall. Seems I recall character things more so than plot things.6. What happened to the golden armor? It was a one time thing. After the Digimon did not have to worry about digivolution being blocked what happened to the digi-armor?It became the physical representation if Ken's Crest of Kindness, didn't it?

The kids could still use their Digimentals, it just wasn't as necessary anymore since they didn't have to worry about their evolutions being blocked. You have to keep in mind that the show was based on and pulling elements from the games at the time, which included the card game. They were trying to introduce other evolution types and paths for the Digimon of the series.7. Everyone knows about Digimon so everyone gets a partner? Whatever happen to selecting the best of the bunch of the then youth. I could be remembering wrong, but I thought that everyone gradually became aware of them, not that everyone received one.Neither season touched on the Digi Destined before Tai and gang.Yeah, would've been nice to hear a story about them.Myotismon surviving twice and somehow sidegrading to another Motis form? Was MaloMyotismon like SkullGreymon?MaloMyotismon was his name? lol. I'll stick with BelialVamdemon. lol

That aside, I haven't any issue because every single Digimon have multiple evolutionary paths...like how Armadimoncan evolve to MegaSeadramon. There's a path for it which uses the armors and Jorgress evolving.

Take Imperialdramon for instance.

XV-mon + Stingmon can Jorgress evolve to either Imperialdramon or Dinobeemon. I personally would've preferred seeing Dinobeemon. It just shows that for that one XV-mon had the more dominating data...and they let the new kid for each pair have his/her Digimon dominate.

So yeah, getting BelialVamdemon in 02 as an alt didn't bother me much.

Oh yeah, that reminds me...02 was cut short because Adventure ran long. Adventure was originally supposed to have been 52 eps I think, but was 54, so they had to cut back on 02's eps.

Another issue with 02, imo, was trying to have so much in such a short amount if time.

[Netkeeper]

MaloMyotismon was his name? lol. I'll stick with BelialVamdemon. lol
LMAO I KNOW. Myotismon sounds way cooler than Vamdemon, but MarshMaloMyotismon is a terrible name. BelialVamdemon is so badass.

...But considering he didn't live up to his name at all, perhaps MarshMaloMyotismon is better anyway.

[MikeandRaph87]

Adventure 01 was 54 episodes to Adventures 02's 50 even. Tamers had 51. I watched seasons 1-3 but never got into the other stuff related to Digimon nor did I watch beyond Tamers. That is why I remember the episodes so well but all the side evolutions instead of one direct path confuse me. It gets too complicated for me. Also you know it from its original form opposed to English dub. We come from opposite corners of viewership.:)

To answers some of the above:

Its never said if its the same one or not. I guess its viewer's choice. Also, its not MarineDevimon but Devimon instead despite the fact he caused the monstrous whirlpool. It would have made more sense if it was MarineDevimon. Its only for about one minute that he shows up and its to warn Ken before being absorbed as the final piece to form Kimeramon. Also, Devimon causes the Kimeramon creation to be uncontrollable and destructive to stick it to Ken. Look at 10:10-12:05 in this clip.
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I just watched Adventure 02 21 and yes in completing the Digimon Emperor segment of the season it morphs into Ken's crest. The only thing is, how did Ken get to be a Digi Destined crest and all if Apoclaymon was defeated? Was it Myotismon picking him out after witnessesing Sam(Ken's brother's death?).

I never cared for the Digi-Armor because it seemed odd to have three of them having two separate forms and one of those a one-shot third form. Then all forms forgotten instead going with the natural line.

Adventure 02's epilogue said that everyone got a digimon since everyone knew about it. Its almost like if a person finds out about Digimon he/she will get one with no age limit as Owekawa(sp?) proves. One would have thought the battle with MaloMyotismon would have gotten worldwide knowledge and then Agumon and Gabumon fighting Diaboramon on the internet. That is either a flaw or a changing of the rules later on.

I almost forgot that Daemon returned for the World Tour three parter. He was like Datamon, an independent of the main foe lesser evil. From Digimon Emperor to Arukinimon(sp?), Owekawa, and even anti-hero Black War Graymon is connected to Myotismon yet I don't think Daemon is. He wanted Kari and T.K. more because he needed to make Kari his queen for some reason and T.k. saved her causing his focus on those two more so than the others. I don't think he is killed but instead just sent back to the Digital World and is forgotten.

[ssjup81]

I'll reply to your post soon, but just noticed the announcement on that nade nade Digimon egg thing. There's a new one, but the hatched one is still there.

Anyone else thinks that we'll have to hatch about 7 or 8 eggs and get a message with each representing each of the original Adventure kids?

Edit: Never mind, we do...but not sure how many.

[MikeandRaph87]

So,are we supposed to watch the egg go from baby to Koromon to Agumon or is there going the others like Gabumon's egg and each hatch one by one and not digivolving?

http://digimon-adventure.net/eng/

[Allio]

we are already on the Gabumon egg

http://digimon-adventure.net/

[ssjup81]

I can't load it, but I guess it's going to be...

Agumon
Gabumon
Piyomon
Tentomon
Palmon
Gomamon
Patamon
Tailmon

That aside, how do you know it's Gabumon's egg? Could be Piyomon's.

[MikeandRaph87]

we are already on the Gabumon egg

http://digimon-adventure.net/

The English page is different and just shows Agumon's baby form. It does not the nade-nade thing with Gabumon's egg and game to go with that has Chumon. Since I know no more than six Japanese what does "nade-nade" mean?

[Allio]

The English page is different and just shows Agumon's baby form. It does not the nade-nade thing with Gabumon's egg and game to go with that has Chumon. Since I know no more than six Japanese what does "nade-nade" mean?

yeah, the english version of the site is kind of crapy

Nade-nade is basically the sound effect for rubbing

[MikeandRaph87]

I went to the Japanese version of the site and clicked on the egg and Gabumon briefly jumps onto the screen. It had over 849,00 clicks. Is it supposed to get 1 million clicks per egg, 1 click a computer per day? I assume we are unveiling confirmation beyond Tai's Agumon as the purpose of the site leading up to March?

[Netkeeper]

Yeah. We get more information when the egg hatches. So just click the link every day at some point.

If you want to put more than one click in, just open a new private window [Firefox] or an incognito window [Chrome].

[MikeandRaph87]

The click countdown that is as I type this at 826,450. Is that overall or just until the Gabumon hatches? If its just for the one egg its going to be a couple of months at this rate.:tgrumble: I wish they would just confirm its 8 DigiDestined and perhaps tease us with twist to let us guess on how they could possibly be summoned for another mission thinking Diaboramon was it was the last the original set was needed for.

[MikeandRaph87]

Was it ever revealed what the other six Digidestined's Digimon were to be at the mega level?

Its odd that in season 2 that they dna digivolved instead of go to Ultimate form. I know a dna digivolution is like ultimate plus and if mega its like mega plus but still.

If the others dna digivolved it would have been Palmon/Byiomon, Tentomon/Gomamon? Its odd that Patamon melded with Armadillomon instead of Gotomon and Gotomon with Hawkmon. That was because of Patamon and Gotomon already being Digidestined partners and would not have been paired with people who were not involved originally or perhaps its a plot whole. Anyone who partnered with Hawkmon would have been odd considering the female digidestined paired with a male digimon and would have to meld with a female digimon to become some neuter creature. Okay, maybe I am thinking too much into it and the writers did not think enough into it. :lol:

[ssjup81]

Was it ever revealed what the other six Digidestined's Digimon were to be at the mega level?

Its odd that in season 2 that they dna digivolved instead of go to Ultimate form. I know a dna digivolution is like ultimate plus and if mega its like mega plus but still.

If the others dna digivolved it would have been Palmon/Byiomon, Tentomon/Gomamon? Its odd that Patamon melded with Armadillomon instead of Gotomon and Gotomon with Hawkmon. That was because of Patamon and Gotomon already being Digidestined partners and would not have been paired with people who were not involved originally or perhaps its a plot whole. Anyone who partnered with Hawkmon would have been odd considering the female digidestined paired with a male digimon and would have to meld with a female digimon to become some neuter creature. Okay, maybe I am thinking too much into it and the writers did not think enough into it. :lol:God I hate that term with an extreme hatred and passion as Jogress makes a heck of a lot more sense given that they're data-based anyway. Joint + Progress. They "join" to "progress" to the next stage of evolution. You also have to remember that the 02 stuff was based on the D3, D-Terminal, the Wonderswan games (Ken), and card games out at the time in Japan.

Also it made sense for the match ups to be Takeru/Iori, Hikari/Miyako, Ken/Daisuke. An old kid, veteran (Takeru, Hikari, Ken) paired with a new one (Iori/Miyako/Daisuke).

Each Digimon we got with those pair ups was to emphasize the newer kid, not the older one.

Paildramon is more V-mon and Daisuke than Ken/Wormmon.

Sylphimon is more Miyako/Hawkmon than Hikari/Tailmon

Shakkomon is more Iori/Armadimon than Takeru/Patamon...kinda.

Also all Digimon have alternate evolutionary paths. I mean even Patamon can naturally evolve to Angewomon. Patamon > Angemon > Angewomon. lol

I can't remember right off for the others, but for Daisuke and Ken...

XVmon + Stingmon > Paildramon

Stingmon + XVmon > Dinobeemon

Notice how for the evo sequences XVmon, Ankylomon, and Aquilamon were first? Their parts are strongest I guess and like I said, it was to represent the newer kid. I'm sure that if Stingmon was first we would've gotten Dinobeemon.

I can't recall any right off but Tentomon has a path where he can evolve to Paildramon, Dinobeemon, and Angewomon. I think he can evolve to Skullgreymon too. There are others but I recall these most. I do know that Tentomon can also evolve to Digmon and Submarimon. I think Ankylomon too.

Greymon + Kabuterimon > Paildramon
Kabuterimon + Kuwagamon > Dinobeemon
Kabuterimon + Monochromon > Angewomon

Oh and Submarimon + Digmon can get you MegaSeadramon.

As for confirmed Megas (ultimates) for the show's characters (and my PSP Digimon Adventure RPG game) I think they were...

Piyomon > Birdramon > Garudamon > Hououmon

Tentomon > Kabuterimon >AtlurKabuterimon > Heracles Kabuterimon

Palmon > Togemon > Lilymon > Rosemon

Gomamon > Ikkakumon > Zudomon > Marine Angemon or either Pleisomon (this was debated years ago, but I'm sure for Jou's Gomamon it's Marine Angemom)

Patamon > Angemon > Holy Angemon > Seraphimon

Plotmon > Tailmon > Angewomon > Holy Dramon (I think it might be Ophanimon for the game but for the anime Holy Dramon...she can evolve to both)

So yeah, Digimon have many evolutionary paths. Some natural (like the Adventure kids' paths) or either a special circumstance (like the 02 group).

I'm not sure if it still exists, but you should look up Megchan's Digimon Encyclopedia.

[Ninjinister]

Last I checked, that portion of her site was mirrored elsewhere and only a lyrics wiki and a general manga scanslation blog remained.

[ssjup81]

Sucks I lost contact with Grace. I used to talk to her all the time.

Anyway, I found the mirror you mentioned...

http://shiningevo.ultimatedigimon.com/encyclopedia/encyclopedia.html

[Ninjinister]

I'm the entire reason for the bottom section of this page

http://shiningevo.ultimatedigimon.com/encyclopedia/digimon/xeed_millenniumon.html

Such a looooong story.

[ssjup81]

I'm the entire reason for the bottom section of this page

http://shiningevo.ultimatedigimon.com/encyclopedia/digimon/xeed_millenniumon.html

Such a looooong story.Wow. If I ever go back to my future Adventure/Tamers crossover, I'll keep that in mind.

For anyone semi-interested, here's a brief synopsis...The year is 2029, two years after the Adventure epilogue. Strange assaults are occurring in the human world, but who is responsible for them? Can Taichi and the others stop the upcoming Digital World crisis with help from the Tamers?
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Anyway, I shall warn you now. This fic is going to be quite lengthy since it's going to take place for a few months, unless I decide to end it earlier than that. Mimi moves back to Odaiba with her son, and he is trying to adjust to the ways of Japan. Each child (almost, anyway) will end up having some kind of a personal problem or conflict, and that just happens to be Mimi's son's problem, his not wanting to move to Japan. Not to worry, though. The adult Chosens will have their share of problems too. Mimi's just happens to be having to put up with her son's complaining about not wanting to live in Odaiba.

I know you all are expecting a bit more, but there definitely will be. The adult Chosens aren't the only ones who will appear in this fic, but the adult Tamers as well. It's going to primarily be a cross-over fic. There's trouble going on in the Digital World again, and both sides have to fix it, for the most part, but you'll see. One of the children of the Chosens has a direct connection to it, ironically. Everyone will have to work together to fight against an upcoming crisis. Which Tamers characters I use are still undecided, but Ryou is a definite since he's connected to both Adventure and Tamers, and the main three (Takato, Ruki, and Jenrya/Jianliang).

I originally started it about 10 years ago, but it was taken down and I got the urge to go back to it a couple of years ago, but those who used to email me about it all the time kinda lost interest, understandably so.

Oh and if anyone is interested in a character profile description..

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/7767543/3/

...only the Adventure/02 group so far though.

Edit: Oh and for Hikari's family, I picked the names for a reason...

Oh, I wanted to mention something regarding Hikari's entire family. Every single name has a star, sun, or light reference…

Hoshino (Star field) + Hikari (Light) = Star field of light.

Hoshino (Star field) + Haru (遥) to (斗) = Star field of the distant Ursa Major (or Big Dipper/Bear). Haruto, using these particular characters would mean this as there are different ways to write out Haruto, but I wanted this meaning specifically.

Hoshino (Star field) + Kou (光) ki (輝) = Star field of shining light. Well, that's how I'd translate it anyway and that's the meaning I wanted. Just like with Haruto, there are other ways to write out the name Kouki.

[MikeandRaph87]

God I hate that term with an extreme hatred and passion as Jogress makes a heck of a lot more sense given that they're data-based anyway. Joint + Progress. They "join" to "progress" to the next stage of evolution. You also have to remember that the 02 stuff was based on the D3, D-Terminal, the Wonderswan games (Ken), and card games out at the time in Japan.

Also it made sense for the match ups to be Takeru/Iori, Hikari/Miyako, Ken/Daisuke. An old kid, veteran (Takeru, Hikari, Ken) paired with a new one (Iori/Miyako/Daisuke).

Each Digimon we got with those pair ups was to emphasize the newer kid, not the older one.

Paildramon is more V-mon and Daisuke than Ken/Wormmon.

Sylphimon is more Miyako/Hawkmon than Hikari/Tailmon

Shakkomon is more Iori/Armadimon than Takeru/Patamon...kinda.

Also all Digimon have alternate evolutionary paths. I mean even Patamon can naturally evolve to Angewomon. Patamon > Angemon > Angewomon. lol

I can't remember right off for the others, but for Daisuke and Ken...

XVmon + Stingmon > Paildramon

Stingmon + XVmon > Dinobeemon

Notice how for the evo sequences XVmon, Ankylomon, and Aquilamon were first? Their parts are strongest I guess and like I said, it was to represent the newer kid. I'm sure that if Stingmon was first we would've gotten Dinobeemon.

I can't recall any right off but Tentomon has a path where he can evolve to Paildramon, Dinobeemon, and Angewomon. I think he can evolve to Skullgreymon too. There are others but I recall these most. I do know that Tentomon can also evolve to Digmon and Submarimon. I think Ankylomon too.

Greymon + Kabuterimon > Paildramon
Kabuterimon + Kuwagamon > Dinobeemon
Kabuterimon + Monochromon > Angewomon

Oh and Submarimon + Digmon can get you MegaSeadramon.

As for confirmed Megas (ultimates) for the show's characters (and my PSP Digimon Adventure RPG game) I think they were...

Piyomon > Birdramon > Garudamon > Hououmon

Tentomon > Kabuterimon >AtlurKabuterimon > Heracles Kabuterimon

Palmon > Togemon > Lilymon > Rosemon

Gomamon > Ikkakumon > Zudomon > Marine Angemon or either Pleisomon (this was debated years ago, but I'm sure for Jou's Gomamon it's Marine Angemom)

Patamon > Angemon > Holy Angemon > Seraphimon

Plotmon > Tailmon > Angewomon > Holy Dramon (I think it might be Ophanimon for the game but for the anime Holy Dramon...she can evolve to both)

So yeah, Digimon have many evolutionary paths. Some natural (like the Adventure kids' paths) or either a special circumstance (like the 02 group).

I'm not sure if it still exists, but you should look up Megchan's Digimon Encyclopedia.

Its headpspinning to think of all these divergent paths instead of defined evolutionary line.Tentomon becoming Angewomon and Zudomon becoming MarineAngemon as far as diverged evolutionary paths don't make sense to a big fan of the first three anime seasons. I will have to check out who the Digidestined's partner's final forms would be by using google images using the above information.

Its hard to think that the dna digivolution would not have been defined as far as the digipartners that would meld. That is why I though it odd for Patamon and Gatomon to pair up with unknowns at the time they were actively digivoling fighting Apoclaypomon's creations. Aqumon and Gabumon soon after melded before the other three were even known. Perhpas I am just edigging into too much? Its also news to me that Ken was prexisting of his days as the pawn Digimon Emperor. I know that Ryo was a prexisting character though. Agreed that dna dumb term to use since they are data in their primary forms.

No further information yet on Adventure 03 aside from Tai at 17? Any guesses if it will be the 8 Digidestined or those four new kids involved as well? I also wonder how digivolution will be handled so Wargreymon,MetalGaurumonand the 6 Ultimates are not taped into to trounce evil force.

[ssjup81]

Its headpspinning to think of all these divergent paths instead of defined evolutionary line.Tentomon becoming Angewomon and Zudomon becoming MarineAngemon as far as diverged evolutionary paths don't make sense to a big fan of the first three anime seasons. I will have to check out who the Digidestined's partner's final forms would be by using google images using the above information.Holy Dramon and Seraphimon have already appeared in the series. Movie 3, but it was brief.

The others, I'm positive were confirmed at the time. For the Digimon Adventure RPG game, however, Tailmon can evolve to Ophanimon, if I'm not mistaken. I still haven't finished the game yet. Their about to get into the Vamdemon/VenomVamdemon stuff, but I left off trying to level everyone more. I'd just finally gotten Togemon to evolve to Lilymon the first time.Its hard to think that the dna digivolution would not have been defined as far as the digipartners that would meld. That is why I though it odd for Patamon and Gatomon to pair up with unknowns at the time they were actively digivoling fighting Maybe, at the time, there wasn't anything for them to evolve to, but it made sense not to, as they'd already had their time to shine in Adventure. It was Daisuke, Miyako, and Iori's time. In all honesty, though, I love that there are so many paths. It makes fic writing more interesting.Apoclaypomon's creations. Aqumon and Gabumon soon after melded before the other three were even known. Perhpas I am just edigging into too much?
Maybe. lolIts also news to me that Ken was prexisting of his days as the pawn Digimon Emperor. I know that Ryo was a prexisting character though. Ryo is friends with Ken. I mentioned Ken was a game character, I'm sure earlier in this thread. V-mon and Wormmon are too. I own the following games and a Wonderswan Color, but haven't played in years, so going by memory.

The first game only had Ryo though (Anode/Cathode Tamer). Took place December 31, 1999. He was partnered up with Taichi's Agumon. All of the Chosen Children were kidnapped, I think and he had to get a group together to defeat Milleniumon. I remember vaguely not being able to evolve Agumon as Ryo wasn't his partner.

The next game (Tag Tamers), Ryo was visiting Ken and both ended up in the Digital World because they were summoned (more so Ryo) to deal with another problem.

This would've taken place shortly after the events of the second movie because both witnessed the battle between Omegamon and Diablomon (which was spring of 2000, probably March).

There was another Diablomon on the loose and the one to summon them was V-mon (the one you see in 02 later). The two go and that's how Ken met Wormmon. For this adventure, Ryo is paired with V-mon. The Diablomon was just used to lure Ryo back to the Digital World because a non-evolved V-mon beat Diablomon. I thought the game was faulty when that happened. lol. Anyway, it was Milleniumon's doing.

Ryo and Ken ended up separated by Milleniumon and that's when Ken first met Wormmon.

Now the next part is vague, but the two do meet up again. This game dealt with Digimentals. They had to gather shards or something. Just think of the original Legend of Zelda, Link had to collect the 8 pieces of the Triforce and put it back together. I forgot which Digimental it was. It wasn't any of the ones featured in 02.

So the two face him but he's Moon=Milleniumon...and they defeat him...forgot how, but that's also when he released the those Dark Seeds, and being the "kind" one, he saw it going towards Ryo and pushed him out of the way and taking it, thus being infected. This was in 02. The person with Ken was Ryo in the flashback in that ep.

The next game was D-1 Tamers. Ken is in the game, but isn't playable. He's sick for it because of the prev game and Ryo was visiting him. Ken mentioned something about an email or a quiz or something, and after he did it he was sucked back to the DW. Forgot the details. Like why there was a tourney to begin with. Oh yeah! Ryo did talk to Ken throughout the game on his D-Terminal, if I remember right. The Adventure kids were in this game also battling to help take out the bad guardian, and in all honesty, I only remember Koushirou and Mimi. Main reason I remember Mimi (and why I like Ryo x Mimi) is because she flirted with him after you beat her. lol

Long story short, it's Moon=Milleniumon again who has an obsession with killing Ryo. Oh and for this game I think V-mon, Wormmon, and Taichi's Agumon was back and you could use them.

After the battle though, something happened, and Ryo and Moon=Milleniumon ended up going through a portal or something, and of course Ken and Gennai were worried, but Ken believed Ryo was still alive.

Next game was Brave Tamer. This is the game where Ryo finally gets his own partner. He wakes up in a jungle like area in the DW by a Monochromon, but I think he had no memories or maybe he bumped his head. The Monochromon took him to ENIAC. Forgot the story, but Moon=Milleniumon evolved to ZeedMilleniumon and turned out that Ryo never had his own partner was because Milleniumon was his true partner but Monochromon was like, "Oh no he's not! I am!" They ended up merging and and a Digiegg was the result. So with the egg the ENIAC comp gave Ryo a choice of returning to his dimension or another as ENIAC had connections to alt worlds. He chose to go to a new one for some odd reason, hence the implied connection to Digimon Tamers.

Fic wise, this is something I wanted to change a bit, like Ryo's memory loss...sort of and I still wanted to use Milleniumon as an enemy, but this is where I'm blocked.

That aside it's interesting that every single bad thing was caused by Milleniumon. He's the one to release Apocalymon who created the Dark Masters. He infected Ken. He created Diablomon.

Agreed that dna dumb term to use since they are data in their primary forms.I hate changes like that as it was unnecessary. The kids told Koushirou about the "Jogress" thing and he said maybe it meant Joint Progress. The Japanese version used this...in English. Why change a combined English word to something that can't apply.No further information yet on Adventure 03 aside from Tai at 17? Any guesses if it will be the 8 Digidestined or those four new kids involved as well? I also wonder how digivolution will be handled so Wargreymon,MetalGaurumonand the 6 Ultimates are not taped into to trounce evil force.Welp, you got to nade-nade to find out. lol

[Leofan26]

I saw the new fan polls, why is Matt so popular? I never really liked the guy, I liked Ken more than him.

I'm also surprised at the fact how popular the Tai x Sora pairing is, I thought some one here said it was just dub that it was popular with :P

[Allio]

I saw the new fan polls, why is Matt so popular? I never really liked the guy, I liked Ken more than him.

I'm also surprised at the fact how popular the Tai x Sora pairing is, I thought some one here said it was just dub that it was popular with :P

no

apparently the original cast were surprised that the end game was Sora/Yamato instead of Sora/Taichi

[MikeandRaph87]

I saw the new fan polls, why is Matt so popular? I never really liked the guy, I liked Ken more than him.

I'm also surprised at the fact how popular the Tai x Sora pairing is, I thought some one here said it was just dub that it was popular with :P

The dub indicates Tai has feeling her while Matt does not show any romantic tendencies towards her until a dozen episodes into Adventure 02 as far as the dub is concerned here in America. As a kid I thought that and still see it looking that way when chance rewatching the episodes.

I love both the characters Tai and Matt. Not much interest in any of the others. I thought Tai was built up to be a flawed yet heroic individual while Matt had a lot of characterizations and was Tai's equal. Matt's characterization focus is what made him interesting. So any chance to see these two again is welcome.

This nade-nade thing is going take forever. Its currently on egg #2 with over 752,800 right now. It needs to put up the nade-nade thing on all language versions of the website so it will not take five weeks to get 1 million clicks

[ssjup81]

I saw the new fan polls, why is Matt so popular? I never really liked the guy, I liked Ken more than him.

I'm also surprised at the fact how popular the Tai x Sora pairing is, I thought some one here said it was just dub that it was popular with :PNope. I said the dub added stuff, like movie 2. Never said it wasn't popular. Childhood friends turned lovers is a seemingly popular concept (just look at Detective Conan), and those two have known each other since probably their kindergarten days. It's canon that they were friends in Hikarigaoka and in the same 1st grade class (1-2) at Daisan Shogakkou (Daisan Elementary School). They also shared the same classes at Odaiba Elementary.

A popular dub pairing would be Matt x Mimi. I don't think Yamato x Mimi was popular in Japan at all.

[MikeandRaph87]

I recently asked if the creative team had definitive final forms for the other six DIgidested's partners. It seems to have been revealed only last year with a Japanese exclusive video game that played through the season and added in a segment where each faces the boss villains of Apoclaymon and its forced to warp digivolve apparently at the time of the final fight.
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Digimon_Adventure_(PSP)

Where was said again that the kids had to return to the Digiworld to give up their crest and the partners ability to digivolve past Champion? Was it the movie or a second season episode?

[ssjup81]

I recently asked if the creative team had definitive final forms for the other six DIgidested's partners. It seems to have been revealed only last year with a Japanese exclusive video game that played through the season and added in a segment where each faces the boss villains of Apoclaymon and its forced to warp digivolve apparently at the time of the final fight.
http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Digimon_Adventure_(PSP)I said this earlier. I own the game. :PAs for confirmed Megas (ultimates) for the show's characters (and my PSP Digimon Adventure RPG game) I think they were...

Piyomon > Birdramon > Garudamon > Hououmon

Tentomon > Kabuterimon >AtlurKabuterimon > Heracles Kabuterimon

Palmon > Togemon > Lilymon > Rosemon

Gomamon > Ikkakumon > Zudomon > Marine Angemon or either Pleisomon (this was debated years ago, but I'm sure for Jou's Gomamon it's Marine Angemom)

Patamon > Angemon > Holy Angemon > Seraphimon

Plotmon > Tailmon > Angewomon > Holy Dramon (I think it might be Ophanimon for the game but for the anime Holy Dramon...she can evolve to both) The only one I couldn't recall right off was Gomamon's.

To unlock their megas, you have to do rank ups. Everytime you speak with one of the other Chosen Children you get an option. Choose the correct choice, you increase the rank of both characters and the stronger the bond/rank between said characters and they're battling together, there are moments where they'll help you in battle without using any of this game's equivalent of mp.

Of course I want Mimi and Koushirou to have a perfect bond. lolWhere was said again that the kids had to return to the Digiworld to give up their crest and the partners ability to digivolve past Champion? Was it the movie or a second season episode?In 02, forgot which ep, though. Koushirou explained how they sacrificed their natural crest powers to help free the Holy Beast guardians, iirc.

I don't know, but my interpretation was that they could still reach higher forms, but without the extra power boost from their partners, just would be more difficult to do. I could be wrong about that, though. That's just the impression I got from it.

[MikeandRaph87]

Sorry, I did not realize you cited the Japanese exclusive video game as your source. So many post its hard to absorb everything. :D ITs too bad its on one system and in one country.

I remember right before the Digimon World Tour a being I want to say it was one of the Genai clones returned the ability to the original DigiDestined.

This Digiegg hatching for information might not be done by the time the season debuts in Japan. The second egg still has 660,400 to go.

Any word on the US network that will air the new season?

[Wesley]

I watched the dub of Digimon Adventure 1 and 2 in the early 2000s. I thought the first season started off slowly, but it got much better about halfway through season one. I liked season 2 as a child, but I watched it as an adult a few years ago and I thought it was so bad it was funny.

[Netkeeper]

I don't really feel like Adventure started off too slowly, but that might just be my Tamers bias talking, since that one did start off slowly. Also, speaking of Tamers: you watch that one? It's really good, and the dubbing is much better. It's got 02's talent without so many jokes.

EDIT: And don't you guys start dogpiling me again for mentioning the D word. You'll get reported.

[Wesley]

I don't really feel like Adventure started off too slowly, but that might just be my Tamers bias talking, since that one did start off slowly. Also, speaking of Tamers: you watch that one? It's really good, and the dubbing is much better. It's got 02's talent without so many jokes.

EDIT: And don't you guys start dogpiling me again for mentioning the D word. You'll get reported.

I only watched a few episodes of Tamers. I lost interest in the series after that and moved on to other shows like Yugioh. I think the airing schedule for Tamers in Ireland was erratic, so that didn't help matters. No further seasons were aired and I forgot about Digimon until a few years ago.

[Netkeeper]

You should really look into it. It's on US Netflix [don't know about anywhere else] along with both Adventure series and Fusion.

[The Stryker]

EDIT: And don't you guys start dogpiling me again for mentioning the D word. You'll get reported.

I like how you say this like someone would be scared. Stop being such a baby about this kind of stuff man.

I watched a few episodes of Fusion. I don't know. I couldn't really get into it much. Maybe it's because I don't like the designs for any of the Digimon. It's just not grabbing me in the slightest.

[Cure]

I agree about Fusion. I just couldn't get into it.

[Allio]

I watched a few episodes of Fusion. I don't know. I couldn't really get into it much. Maybe it's because I don't like the designs for any of the Digimon. It's just not grabbing me in the slightest.


Yeah, it seems to be at best Xros Wars is a pretty average, english less so. Honestly, the manga is much better.

[Wesley]

You should really look into it. It's on US Netflix [don't know about anywhere else] along with both Adventure series and Fusion.

I'm not a big fan of Netflix. I prefer watching shows on television channels or dvd.

[ssjup81]

What's Fusion again?

I've still yet to see that XROS show. I caught a couple of eps when it still aired Tuesday evenings about 3 or 4 years ago...but it was more like background noise while I was preparing dinner. lol

[The Stryker]

I'm not a big fan of Netflix. I prefer watching shows on television channels or dvd.

What exactly is the difference between watching on DVD and on Netflix?

Unless you really love switching dvds every 4 episodes.

[ssjup81]

Sorry, I did not realize you cited the Japanese exclusive video game as your source. So many post its hard to absorb everything. :D ITs too bad its on one system and in one country.I apologize for that. I tend to write long posts sometimes if I have a lot of information to share, like the posts I've made in this thread about the Michi e no Armor Shinka CD drama where the Adventure 02 kids' Digimon armor evolved to other forms because of Jou mixing up their Digimentals and the Adventure kids' Digimon evolving to other forms (though made up). They were feeling left out and they evolved and it was funny. :lol:I remember right before the Digimon World Tour a being I want to say it was one of the Genai clones returned the ability to the original DigiDestined.That was the real Gennai I think, but he gave them the ability to evolve by using the powers of the Digicore from Qinglongmon (I have no idea what the dub name is...I wasn't watching 02 at this point and I can't recall it right off).This Digiegg hatching for information might not be done by the time the season debuts in Japan. The second egg still has 660,400 to go.Yeah, they need to. I doubt they can get through 7 eggs with limited play.
I watched the dub of Digimon Adventure 1 and 2 in the early 2000s. I thought the first season started off slowly, but it got much better about halfway through season one. I liked season 2 as a child, but I watched it as an adult a few years ago and I thought it was so bad it was funny.Hm, for me, 02's dub was so bad, it was bad. :P I was too old anyway for the show when it aired originally. I probably wasn't part of the demographic anyway. Let me put it this way, I'm round about the age of Jou's middle brother. lolI don't really feel like Adventure started off too slowly, but that might just be my Tamers bias talking, since that one did start off slowly. Also, speaking of Tamers: you watch that one? It's really good, and the dubbing is much better. It's got 02's talent without so many jokes.I'd heard that Tamers had a good dub. Maybe someday I'll leave my Japanese Digimon bubble, due to the bit of 02's dub I could manage to get through that put me here, and look at it.EDIT: And don't you guys start dogpiling me again for mentioning the D word. You'll get reported.I'm trying to figure out what the "d-word" is...I like how you say this like someone would be scared. Stop being such a baby about this kind of stuff man.

I watched a few episodes of Fusion. I don't know. I couldn't really get into it much. Maybe it's because I don't like the designs for any of the Digimon. It's just not grabbing me in the slightest.Wait, is Fusion, Frontier?

[Netkeeper]

Fusion is Xros Wars.

[ssjup81]

Fusion is Xros Wars.I will never understand the need to change English to English...

[pharaohyami5000]

Probably because "wars" is a pretty sensitive term nowadays.

Transformers Beast Wars got away with it, though Canada calls it Beasties instead.

[ssjup81]

Probably because "wars" is a pretty sensitive term nowadays.

Transformers Beast Wars got away with it, though Canada calls it Beasties instead.I kind of meant this in a general sense, I guess the change to Fusion makes sense.

So what was Frontier and Savers called? Weren't they changed?

[Allio]

I kind of meant this in a general sense, I guess the change to Fusion makes sense.

So what was Frontier and Savers called? Weren't they changed?

Frontier was just Digimon
Savers became Data Squad

Toei/Bandai of Japan will never get into English

[Wesley]

What exactly is the difference between watching on DVD and on Netflix?

Unless you really love switching dvds every 4 episodes.

I just prefer watching on dvd for better picture quality. Also, I like owning DVDs and don't mind having to switch them. I only watch 3-4 episodes at once anyway.

[ssjup81]

Frontier was just Digimon
Savers became Data Squad

Toei/Bandai of Japan will never get into EnglishBy "general", I mean exactly that...general. Anything that used English in the original series but the English is changed to English for its dub.

Why change Digimon Savers to Data Squad? It's English > English. It's not a bad name or anything, just wondering why bother doing that.

Or Venus in DiC's dub of Sailor Moon. Why'd they bother changing Crescent Beam to Crescent Beam smash or Mars' attack. Burning Mandala was changed to Mars Fire Surround blah blah blah something. lol I dunno, just felt unnecessary to me.

There are more examples from other series, but it's like 5:30 in the morn here and I just woke up and still a bit groggy. ^^

[Wesley]

I just remembered that I saw one of the last episodes of Tamers years ago, in which Jeri was trapped in a kernel sphere. I didn't know what was going on, though, and never saw the series after that.

[Cure]

I just prefer watching on dvd for better picture quality.

DVD's aren't HD; Netflix streaming is.

[ssjup81]

I just remembered that I saw one of the last episodes of Tamers years ago, in which Jeri was trapped in a kernel sphere. I didn't know what was going on, though, and never saw the series after that.Oh yeah, forgot that Juri was changed to Jeri. Was she tied up and stuff? It may have been when she was trapped in that Dark Reaper thing and how down she was and how she was sort of in a suicidal state and was trying to choke herself with her hand puppet...DVD's aren't HD; Netflix streaming is.I know I'd prefer DVD because you don't need internet.

[Wesley]

Oh yeah, forgot that Juri was changed to Jeri. Was she tied up and stuff? It may have been when she was trapped in that Dark Reaper thing and how down she was and how she was sort of in a suicidal state and was trying to choke herself with her hand puppet...I know I'd prefer DVD because you don't need internet.

I haven't seen that episode in nearly a decade and I think it was aired early in the morning, so I wasn't paying too much attention to what was happening. Jeri did seem to be in an awful state. That was quite dark for a kid's anime. I prefer dvd as well for the same reason. I don't like depending on the Internet to watch tv shows.

[Netkeeper]

I will never understand the need to change English to English...
Dude, Wars.

I just prefer watching on dvd for better picture quality. Also, I like owning DVDs and don't mind having to switch them. I only watch 3-4 episodes at once anyway.
^Has clearly never actually used Netflix

Why change Digimon Savers to Data Squad? It's English > English. It's not a bad name or anything, just wondering why bother doing that.
This one confused me slightly, but I don't mind the change personally for two reasons:
-At least they stopped calling them just "Digimon"
-"Savers" just sounds really awkward as a word

[Peanut]

DVD kid has a point about picture quality. A nice DVD transfer of an older show on a good upscaler > SD shows in streaming quality. It's kind of like saying you prefer streaming quality HD to a proper Blu-Ray transfer. Not the same thing. It's not even the same as HD cable programming. Although it's much closer these days.

I also prefer owning a physical copy of a thing I love and will forever treasure. However, this is increasingly rare.

[ssjup81]

Dude, Wars.XRos was supposed to be "Cross" to my knowledge. That 's why I said English to English.

Besides, someone answered...
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1365344&postcount=161This one confused me slightly, but I don't mind the change personally for two reasons:
-At least they stopped calling them just "Digimon"
-"Savers" just sounds really awkward as a wordI didn't even know that . I thought after Adventure, the dubs starting using the names Tamers, Frontier, etc.

[Netkeeper]

XRos was supposed to be "Cross" to my knowledge. That 's why I said English to English.
Yes, Xros is supposed to be "Cross". Though I will admit, the weird spelling doesn't make that incredibly clear at first, so I don't necessarily mind the series rename.

But my point is the word Wars being in the title. This should be self-explanatory.

I didn't even know that . I thought after Adventure, the dubs starting using the names Tamers, Frontier, etc.
Nope. They're informally known as Adventure, 02, Tamers, and Frontier, since most dub fans are familiar with the original series names [and find it an easy way to differentiate since calling them "seasons" is a misnomer] but when they were originally airing, they were just called "Digimon season [x]" or "Digimon: Digital Monsters".

[ssjup81]

Yes, Xros is supposed to be "Cross". Though I will admit, the weird spelling doesn't make that incredibly clear at first, so I don't necessarily mind the series rename.

But my point is the word Wars being in the title. This should be self-explanatory.Not really. We had "Beast Wars" didn't we? Then again, that was out in the mid 90s, way after the events of the short Persian Gulf War (about 1991).

Anyway like I said, someone already explained it.Nope. They're informally known as Adventure, 02, Tamers, and Frontier, since most dub fans are familiar with the original series names [and find it an easy way to differentiate since calling them "seasons" is a misnomer] but when they were originally airing, they were just called "Digimon season [x]" or "Digimon: Digital Monsters".Welp, news to me.

[Netkeeper]

Haha, that's okay. I don't know a single person that doesn't refer to each series by its proper name, whether they watch the sub or not.

[ssjup81]

Not enough nade-nade. T_T

[Leofan26]

Funny thing, out of all the Digimon shows to revisit never expected it to be the 01 cast again, I always thought maybe they'd return to the 03 cast again at some point.

[ssjup81]

So...was anyone else into the music for the series? Either of them? Any themes? Or does anyone have any Digi merch?Funny thing, out of all the Digimon shows to revisit never expected it to be the 01 cast again, I always thought maybe they'd return to the 03 cast again at some point.I kinda wish Tamers could've gotten a continuation too.

[Allio]

I have majority of the Wada Kouji songs on my Ipod, plus most of the Xros Wars themes

I don't have any english music because

1. The vocal music hasn't aged well
B. The instrumental reminds me of Saban's Masked Rider...and those are dark times I wish to forget

Digimon merch I have (Listing only important stuff)

1. Digivice series 2-6 (Adventure 02 - Savers are the english version while the Xros Loader is japanese. *UCK the Fusion loader)
2.D-Arts Dukemon
3.D-Arts Omegamon
4.SH Figuart Imperialdramon
5.Digimon Collectible card game returns vol 1.
6. Shoutmon X4 Fusion Builder Toy (The only decent Digimon Fusion toy)
7. SH Figuart Alphamon (on Pre-order)

I have the two starter decks of the Digimon Fusion card game...but the american versions ruins the japanese cards

[Netkeeper]

I lost all my Digimon music in a hard drive failure and haven't gotten to redownloading them. All I have right now are the opening/ending themes for each series plus a few personal favourites. I spend a lot more time listening to World 1 and 2's OST, honestly.

I also got a lot of my Digimon merch stolen or lost in moves. I used to have the entire collection of American D3s [now all I can find is Ken's black one], as well as the entire collection of digivolving figures [and now my collection of those has been reduced to the hearty number of zero]. I also used to have Digimon World 3 and several figures, miniatures, and plushies. That's hundreds of dollars I'd have to spend to re-collect it all...

What have I been able to find?

Digivices: Original Vpet v1, Xros Wars Mini, black D3, American D-Terminal, Data Link Digivice, Digimon Neo [original is by far the best one I've played with tbh and regret purchasing half the others]
Toys: Agumon plush, a handful of figures [Veemon, Agumon, Tentomon, Magnadramon, Tyrannomon, Agunimon], and about 30 miniatures.

Oh, I also have a poster of the Adventure kids, Digimon Worlds 1 and 2 along with their strategy guides, a shirt, a Veemon pillow, and a Chinook Crafts crest of courage [which isn't official but what Adventure fan doesn't want one]

I never had any of the Adventure digivices because as a kid I couldn't decide on which one I wanted and I didn't like that they didn't come in the neutral teal-ish colour... missed out on something memorable there. I also have a bunch of those trading cards as well as some digi-battle cards but I don't like them and wish I had gotten more figures with that money instead, ugh.

[pharaohyami5000]

The music background (and the outtros) of all Digimon anime are very enjoyable, and their songs (intro and insert songs mainly) are kick-ass! Really pumps up my mood of watching the series, though their last insert song (Legend of Xros Wars or something like that?) was a bit lackluster.

[ssjup81]

I decided to ask the question because I was in a Digimon mood, btw. lolI have majority of the Wada Kouji songs on my Ipod, plus most of the Xros Wars themesThat's cool.I don't have any english music because

1. The vocal music hasn't aged well
B. The instrumental reminds me of Saban's Masked Rider...and those are dark times I wish to forgetI used to watch Saban's Masked Rider occasionally, but I don't remember a thing about it.1. Digivice series 2-6 (Adventure 02 - Savers are the english version while the Xros Loader is japanese. *UCK the Fusion loader)
2.D-Arts Dukemon
3.D-Arts Omegamon
4.SH Figuart Imperialdramon
5.Digimon Collectible card game returns vol 1.
6. Shoutmon X4 Fusion Builder Toy (The only decent Digimon Fusion toy)
7. SH Figuart Alphamon (on Pre-order)Wow, that's a lot of stuff.I have the two starter decks of the Digimon Fusion card game...but the american versions ruins the japanese cardsI have some Japanese Digimon Cards, but not sure which ones they are because I got them many years ago. They're back home stateside in my trunk.I lost all my Digimon music in a hard drive failure and haven't gotten to redownloading them. All I have right now are the opening/ending themes for each series plus a few personal favourites. I spend a lot more time listening to World 1 and 2's OST, honestly.Sucks you lost all of that music. I have a few Digimon World themes from the 2nd game...I think. But only the save/load status theme and something else. I can't recall right off.I also got a lot of my Digimon merch stolen or lost in moves. I used to have the entire collection of American D3s [now all I can find is Ken's black one], as well as the entire collection of digivolving figures [and now my collection of those has been reduced to the hearty number of zero]. I also used to have Digimon World 3 and several figures, miniatures, and plushies. That's hundreds of dollars I'd have to spend to re-collect it all...Man that totally sucks. Wish I had a Digivice of some sort myself thinking about it now. If only I could've gone to the Odaiba Memorial Day celebration back in August. Darn work. lol You could receive a model-1 version.

I can understand not going back through the trouble to recollect them. That would be difficult. Maybe in the future once you're settled you could someday.What have I been able to find?

Digivices: Original Vpet v1, Xros Wars Mini, black D3, American D-Terminal, Data Link Digivice, Digimon Neo [original is by far the best one I've played with tbh and regret purchasing half the others]
Toys: Agumon plush, a handful of figures [Veemon, Agumon, Tentomon, Magnadramon, Tyrannomon, Agunimon], and about 30 miniatures.

Oh, I also have a poster of the Adventure kids, Digimon Worlds 1 and 2 along with their strategy guides, a shirt, a Veemon pillow, and a Chinook Crafts crest of courage [which isn't official but what Adventure fan doesn't want one]

I never had any of the Adventure digivices because as a kid I couldn't decide on which one I wanted and I didn't like that they didn't come in the neutral teal-ish colour... missed out on something memorable there. I also have a bunch of those trading cards as well as some digi-battle cards but I don't like them and wish I had gotten more figures with that money instead, ugh.I was too old for Digimon at the time, so stuff like this I would've had to pay for out of my own pocket. Once I hit 18, the rule was that I had to buy my own things for entertainment as it wasn't a necessity. Without a job, at the time anyway, and only schooling, it was difficult to do. I also was too dense to even know that there were Digivice toys until way after the fact. lolThe music background (and the outtros) of all Digimon anime are very enjoyable, and their songs (intro and insert songs mainly) are kick-ass! Really pumps up my mood of watching the series, though their last insert song (Legend of Xros Wars or something like that?) was a bit lackluster.Yeah, some of the songs are pretty cool and makes you get all hyped up, although granted, I couldn't get into Savers music very much as it wasn't very memorable to me I suppose and aside from the intro and first ending theme to XRos, I don't know any of it and the intro/outro for that I don't recall at all. I keep saying I'm going to watch it properly someday. Seems music wise, it started to falter a bit after Tamers. I didn't even care much for the theme With the Will from Frontier, 'cept for the beginning part of the song. I love how it starts. The rest of the song is only okay to me. I did like the bgm themes okay, though and the intro/outro themes.

[MikeandRaph87]

It looks like the only way we get information on Digimon Adventure 03 is these darn eggs and we are only 46% of the way there on egg #2! If they had an English version on its site and more advertising this thing would go much quicker! Who has the rights to air Digimon in the US? I am curious as to how the US will get to see an English dub of this highly anticipated return to classic form.

[ssjup81]

I just realized I didn't even mention stuff I have.

Well, I'll start with things I literally own or is tangible.

Games
Digimon Adventure Anode/Cathode Tamer V-dramon version (Wonderswan Color)
Digimon Adventure 02: Tag Tamers (Wonderswan Color; game with Ryo & Ken)
Digimon Adventure 02: D-1 Tamers (Wonderswan Color; game had Taichi, Yamato, Koushirou, Mimi, and Wallace)
Digimon Tamers: Brave Tamer (Wonderswan Color; Pretty much explains how Ryo can exist in the Adventure world and the Tamers world)
Digimon World 1 (For the PSX, but no idea where it is; friend gave it to me)
Digimon Adventure RPG (PSP)

Other stuff
American D-Terminal
A giant Culumon plushie that I imported from Japan
A small Culumon plushie that I imported from Japan
A small Impmon plushie that I imported from Japan
Copy of movies 1 - 4
Japanese Digimon Cards (but not sure which right offhand)
Found it by chance, but a legit copy of the Bokura no Digital World cd single still in the plastic. I refuse to open it. lol

That's all I can think of right now, but back to Bokura no Digital World. To even get this cd, you had to collect all 12 Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner character singles. Those who did, were able to receive Bokura no Digital World at that time. The Best Partner cds (originals) have been out of print for years. I was lucky to find it a few months ago when I went to Nakano where they have vintage shops for many things like anime, manga, music and came across it. I was fangirling over it! It cost me about $80, but this cd is rare too. I also saw some other things I wanted to buy, but I had to resist the urge to splurge. lol

Okay, now time for music that I have, albeit downloaded and I doubt I'll ever be able to physically own all of these...

[ssjup81]

Music/Audio
Digimon Adventure
Butter-Fly single
Brave Heart single (Evo theme)
I wish single (first ending)
Keep On single (second ending)
Digimon Adventure Uta to Ongaku Shuu Version 1 album (bgm for the series)
Digimon Adventure Uta to Ongaku Shuu Version 2 album

Teki Chara Song File album (with songs by Etemon, Sukamon & Chuumon, Pumpmon & Gotsumon, Devimon, Ogremon, Pinocchimon)

Digimon Adventure Best Hit Parade (this had the character themes and the alt version of Sora's vocal theme, though minor)

Digimon Adventure Single Hit Parade album

Digimon Adventure Character Song & Mini Drama 1 album (Drama and vocal character themes, along with their karaokes for Sora, Taichi, and Jou)

Digimon Adventure Character Song & Mini Drama 2 album (This is the only one where all the tracks are connected...dealt with the love triangle with Koushirou, Hikari, and Mimi, along with their character vocal themes and karaokes)

Digimon Adventure Character Song & Mini Drama 3 album (Drama dealt with Yamato & Takeru, and the other one dealt with the actual Digimon and have the character themes for Yamato and Takeru and the one that the Digimon did [Shinka de Guts which is so cute still]).

Sakuin No 2 Haru I Chouchou~Bokura no Wargame~ single (movie 2 ending theme)
Digimon Adventure 02
Target~Akai Shougeki~ single (Opening)
Break Up single (Armor evo theme)
Beat Hit! single (Jorgress evo theme)
Ashita wa Atashi no Kaze ga Fuku single (Ending 1)
Itsumo Itsudemo single (Ending 2)
Digimon Adventure 02 Uta to Ongaku Shuu Version 1 album
Digimon Adventure 02 Uta to Ongaku Shuu Version 2 album
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 01: Yagami Taichi & Agumon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 02: Ishida Yamato & Gabumon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 03: Izumi Koushirou & Tentomon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 04: Kido Jou & Gomamon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 05: Tachikawa Mimi & Palmon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 06: Takenouchi Sora & Piyomon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 07: Motomiya Daisuke & V-mon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 08: Inoue Miyako & Hawkmon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 09: Hida Iori & Armadimon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 10: Takaishi Takeru & Patamon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 11: Yagami Hikari & Tailmon
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner single 12: Ichijouji Ken & Wormmon
Bokura no Digital World single (Ep 50 memorial theme)
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Parter Original Karaoke~Erabareshi Kodomotachi Hen~ album (Chosen Children's karaokes)
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner Original Karaoke~Digimon Hen~ album

Digimon Adventure 02 Best Partner Original Karoke~Duet Hen~ album (Chosen Child & Digimon duets...I LOVE Daisuke and V-mon's duet from the single...okay I liked pretty much all of them 'cept for Kari's)

Digimon Adventure 02 Christmas Fantasy album
Digimon Adventure 02 Best Hit Parade album
Digimon Adventure 02 Single Hit Parade album

Digimon Adventure 02: Michi e no Armor Shinka drama album (Drama that had the 02 Digimon armor evolve to other forms because of the Digimentals getting mixed up; mostly about Daisuke though as this takes places during Valentine's)

Digimon Adventure 02: Natsu e no Tobira drama album (Drama about Daisuke trying to get over Hikari who finally rejected him, so he goes to New York and meets up with Mimi and Wallace and a mysterious girl falls for him)

Tegami~Letter~ drama album (About Yamato trying to write a song for a girl he knows, who's sickly, but it wasn't Sora. I haven't heard it in so long, I can't remember the details aside from him skipping school to go to the sea because he was depressed and thinking about the girl, I think.)

Tobira~Door~ single (The song Yamato wrote from the Tegami drama and this song was never used in the show)

Digimon Hurricane Touchdown!/Supreme Evolution! The Golden Digimental album (Movie 3 OST)

Stand By Me~Hito Natsu no Bouken~ single (Movie 3 ending theme)
Stand By Me~Hito Natsu no Bouken~ maxi single
Diablomon no Gyakushuu album (Movie 4 OST)
Friend~Itsu Mademo Wasurenai~ (Movie 4 ending theme)
Digimon Tamers
The Biggest Dreamer single (Opening)
SLASH!! single (Card Slashing theme)
EVO single (Reg evolution theme)
One Vision single (Matrix evo theme)
My Tomorrow single (Ending 1)
Days~Aijou to Nichijou~ single (Ending 2)
Digimon Tamers Uta to Ongaku Shuu Version 1 album
Digimon Tamers Uta to Ongaku Shuu Version 2 album
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 01: Matsuda Takato & Guilmon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 02: Makino Ruki & Renamon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 03: Lee Jianling & Terriermon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 04: Kato Juri & Leomon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 05: Akiyama Ryou & Cyberdramon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 06: Shiota Hirokazu & Guardramon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 07: Kitagawa Kenta & Marine Angemon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer single 08: Lee Shaochung & Lopmon
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer Original Karaoke~Tamer Hen~ album
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer Original Karaoke~Digimon Hen~ album
Digimon Tamers Best Tamer Original Karaoke~Duet Hen~ album
Digimon Tamers Christmas Illusion album
Digimon Tamers Single Best Parade album

Digimon Tamers Song Carnival album (OMG, just too cute! Shuichon and Terriermon's duet is so freaking adorable and Beelzebumon's theme was just awesome!)

The Adventures' Battle OST (Movie 5's soundtrack)
Moving On! single (movie 5 ending)
Tomodachi no Umi single (Movie 5 insert theme)
Runaway Digimon Express OST (Movie 6 soundtrack)
Yuuhi no Yakusoku~Maxi Single~ (Movie 6 ending)
Digimon Frontier
FIRE!! single (Opening and With the Will was the b-side track)

The Last Element single (I forgot the evolution for this one as it was used with Takuya and Kouji lol; the b-side was a DW song)

Innocent~Mujaki na Mama de~ single (Ending 1)
an Endless tale (Ending 2)

Digimon Frontier Uta to Ongaku Shuu album (There was only one version, which sucked because some of the bgm of the series was neve released on an album)

Digimon Frontier Character Song Collection album
Digimon Savers
Gou'ing! Going! My Soul single (Opening)
believer single (Evo theme)
Hirari single
One Star single
ryuusei single
Digimon Savers Character album
Digimon Savers Uta to Ongaku Shuu album

[ssjup81]

Miscellaneous stuff
FIRE!! (Arrange Version) from the Digimon Opening Best Spirit album
The Biggest Dreamr (Arrange Version) from the Digimon Opening Best Spirit album
Pocket Culumon no Uta from The Biggest Dreamer movie 5 single
Maisange~Sakuyamon no Uta~ from the Digimon Sounyuka Wonder Best Evolution album
One Vision (Dukemon Matrix Evolution Version) from the Digimon Sounyuka Wonder Best Evolution album
One Vision (Galgomon Matrix Evolution Version) from the Digimon Sounyuka Wonder Best Evolution album
Get the Biggest Fire!! from the Frontier Best Hit Parade album (this is the only song I wanted)
Butter-Fly Strong Version single (this was released....a few years ago)

Digimon Mirai e no Message~Ohta Michihiko Self Cover~ album (He did the SLASH theme so he covered some other songs from the series, includin the song that seemed to always pop up at the time, Mirai e no Message [Iori and Armadimon's duet]. There's also a live version of SLASH!!)

Digimon 10th Anniversary~Yume e no Kakehashi~ album

Digimon Music 100 Title Memorial album (It was a 5-cd set with music from the series up to Frontier at the time. Each had the opening/ending themes for each series, like the first cd was Adventure,then they had a track with boys giving messages and another with the girls) The fifth dealt with all the singers of the evo and endings and opening themes and they did a new song)

Digimon Memorial Special album (Had some unreleased bgms on here)

Digimon Girls Festival album for the Hina Matsuri (Songs by Sora, Mimi, Hikari, Miyako, Ruki, Juri, and Shaochung; no Frontier or Savers yet when this was released)

There's one I actually wanted to talk about. One of the drama collections.

Digimon Original Story drama album
This was a five-cd set. It only goes up to Frontier, though, as Savers wasn't out yet. I always found the one for Adventure the most interesting, because they're all time-specific.

Taichi's takes place November of 1999, but I forgot what his was about.

Jou's take place in May 2000. He was talking to Shin on the phone about things that were going on, about school, etc. He even mentioned how shocking it was to see Sora wearing more feminine clothes. lol He also talked about Shuu (the brother you see in 02) and how he wanted to change his major from medical to humanities (which he did when we see him in 02), but how Shuu hadn't told their parents yet.

Sora's took place in October 2000. She's writing a letter to her father, and mentioned how she's grown interested in tennis and how her mother was helping her and how strict she was.

For 2001, Koushirou and Mimi. :P

Koushirou's takes place in April 2001 and he was chatting with Gennai online. I remember this one due to how cute it was for one part. My headcanon has that Koushirou LOVES to eat and this is the drama that put that notion in my mind. He's also self-conscious about his height sorta, as he just recently became head of the Odaiba Elementary Computer Club and mentioned the 5th grade girls joining the club are even taller than he is (he's a 6th grader at this point), so he told Gennai he's eating more to grow taller. They also talked about some stuff you see in 01, like the multiple Gennai thing, iirc.

Mimi's took place in September 2001. September 11 to be exact. She was sending a video mail, since she's a bad typist, to her friends back in Odaiba explaining how she'd just started school and stuff since the school years started in September in the US. She said she'd made some friends too if I remember right. She alsot talked about her father's boss who was Native American. Then you hear the towers get hit. Later she starts the video message again letting everyone know she's okay, as she received messages from them, and how she and her family were trying to help out. She also mentioned seeing kids with Digimon trying to help look for survivors and Mimi was going on about how she didn't have Palmon and how her English still wasn't good, but she showed them her Digivice and they understood. So she helped and later on, she had to end her message to go back out with her parents to help out. I think they were helping to cook or something like that.

Yamato's took place in March 2002. Only thing I remember, was that he was learning how to play the bass guitar while talking to his father on the phone with his father. He found out that his pop was in a band when young. Yamato also learned of how Takeru and their mom was moving to Odaiba.

The second one dealt with dramas from the 02 kids, which all took place in 2003 (Miyako was in her first year of Junior High School), but the only one I remember is Takeru's (TK). That's where we learn how he got the idea of writing about his adventures in the Digital World. His mother suggested it.

Oh and in one of those (the final special message for the Drama), Daisuke mentioned height too. He doesn't want to lose to Ken and Takeru because they're tall, so he started drinking 3 or 4 liters of milk or something to help grow taller. lol Unfortunately, milk and him don't mix. ^^;

Too bad I can't recall much from Tamers, other than the kids wanting to send messages to their Digimon friends and a hesitant Ruki, I think...unless I'm mixing up dramas. lol Can't recall Frontier either.

Geez...um...yeah. I know this post will go ignored. lol Didn't realize I wrote so much.

[MikeandRaph87]

Geez...um...yeah. I know this post will go ignored. lol Didn't realize I wrote so much.

It did not and will not.

My Digimon collection:
BK card set
Omnimon figure
Digimon : The Complete First Season

That is it. I'm terrible.:oops: I guess its just my fandom of Digimon Adventure opposed to it overall not being appealing.

[Netkeeper]

BK card set

Oh, are you talking about those metal cards from... some restaurant? I used to have some of those myself.

[MikeandRaph87]

Oh, are you talking about those metal cards from... some restaurant? I used to have some of those myself.

Yeah, I found it in response to this thread. It was Taco Bell. I got two out of three at Taco Bell in those colorful Digivice cases and finished up what I needed in the early years of Ebay.Here is a sample of what the set looked like.


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It was essentially all the DigiDestined's partner Digimon In-Training through Ultimate forms and the lead villain Digimon.

While I am at it, here is the Omnimon figure I got way back in 2000.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digimon-Season-1-Omnimon-Digi-Set-metalgarurumon-wargreymon-Bandai-/161459939787?pt=TV_Movie_Character_Toys_US&hash=item2597c329cb

[ssjup81]

Yeah, I found it in response to this thread. It was Taco Bell. I got two out of three at Taco Bell in those colorful Digivice cases and finished up what I needed in the early years of Ebay.Here is a sample of what the set looked like.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kdaJLL5kL._SX466_.jpg


It was essentially all the DigiDestined's partner Digimon In-Training through Ultimate forms and the lead villain Digimon.

While I am at it, here is the Omnimon figure I got way back in 2000.
http://nowandthencollectibles.com/catalog/images/Digimon-Series%20065.jpgI never knew about those at Taco Bell. I remember the gold-plated Pokemon cards that Burger King had...as I did collect those.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am not sure of the price value to the Adventure 01 metal card set but I would make an educated guess of $3 per card as a current value for the 2000 Taco Bell set. You could probably get most off of Ebay if you are interested but I would think while cheap the cards are rare.

I got the set of six 23k gold cards as well mint in the box. I thought at the time that they would be worth something to help me in college.:lol: I think they were valued at $10 at Burger King at the time of 1999's release. Now I suspect $18-$20. With inflation it probably is worth not much more than its original value. Its a shame because they look cool. The set of six were Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, Jigglypuff, Poliwhirl and Togepi. I prefer some other Pok'emon took Poliwhirl's random place. Why not Eeve,Squirtle, or Bulbasaur? Three better choices IMHO!

[Netkeeper]

I think this might explain Poliwhirl's presence on the BK cards. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOEnmGGfTH8&feature=youtu.be&t=3m52s) Speaking of, I've got all of those, too. They're worthless, so they're just decoration for now. I'm really, really glad Mewtwo got one [though I do think Eevee would have also been nice]. Strange how these didn't get stolen from me when I had them actively on display as opposed to most of my Digimon stuff...

Also, those metal Digimon cards... the picture doesn't show any orange-coloured Digivice case, but I had one in that colour. Strange.

[MikeandRaph87]

Hmmm...perhaps that is it. I would go out of my way to include Squirtle wherever I could if I were amongst the Pok'emon team. I just could understand as a kid why he was all over the place with the core four Jigglypuff, Eeve, Charizard, Mewtwo, and Meoweth.

Can anyone translate the Japanese in the unlocks on the egg hatching page. My computer won't let me do that for some reason. I can't see what was unlocked on 10/29. There has been a 100,000 drop on egg#2 in just two days. Someone is finally getting to work on this thing.

[ssjup81]

Hmmm...perhaps that is it. I would go out of my way to include Squirtle wherever I could if I were amongst the Pok'emon team. I just could understand as a kid why he was all over the place with the core four Jigglypuff, Eeve, Charizard, Mewtwo, and Meoweth.

Can anyone translate the Japanese in the unlocks on the egg hatching page. My computer won't let me do that for some reason. I can't see what was unlocked on 10/29. There has been a 100,000 drop on egg#2 in just two days. Someone is finally getting to work on this thing.「新デジモンパズルゲーム（３x3 マス&４x4マス）オープン！」

It looks like it says that a new Digimon puzzle game is open and that there's a 3x3 version and a 4x4 version.

Wish they'd give us some more information on the actual series, though. Been busy these past few days and didn't even nade-nade at all until you mentioned something for 10/29.

[ssjup81]

I'll try my best to keep the magazine in mind. Any idea which one it is?

[MikeandRaph87]

I'll try my best to keep the magazine in mind. Any idea which one it is?

I cant remember considering its not my native language. I just found it in a random web search when looking for more information. I did just find this.
http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/42755/20141006/digimon-adventure-anime-2015-release-date.htm

Edit: Here is Kari's leaked silhouette.

http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/10/21/digimon-adventures-03-news-first-teaser-trailer-and-more-2365332?lt_source=external,manual

[ssjup81]

Awesome! So I guess it's somewhat official that Miyako, Daisuke, Ken, and Iori may show up. Couldn't see them not being used. I hope they reveal the others soon. Wouldn't surprise me if the next two are Yamato and Takeru.

Maybe the rest of the order will be...

Sora
Koushirou
Mimi
Jou
Daisuke
Ken
Miyako
Iori

So that would still mean Hikari, Takeru, Daisuke, and Ken will be about 14 for the start of this series.

Oh the fan art of the Adventure group with their Digimon only dark is really good.

[Shred Head]

The rest of silhouettes have been leaked.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Lord-Zedd/tumblr_nepgiffJ831rtjgwno1_1280.png

Not going to say with 100% say I think there fake or real I think the percentage is pretty high there real though and if that's the case looks like its the Adventure team only no 02 or at the very least there not going to play a major role. Granted I think that's the right way to go so I'm OK with that. I'm just still glad this show is still happening.

[MikeandRaph87]

I just came by the thread to report the above. Somehow the last 250,000 were eaten away in under two days. Is it being promoted better? It took nearly two months to knock out 750,000 clicks. Punimon/Gabumon hatched. DOes anyone know what the egg with the solid circles on it is that said next?

http://digimon-adventure.net/
The message reads "we can meet again".

[ssjup81]

I hope the leaked pics are real and the egg looks like it may be Pabumon's, meaning Tentomon's next.

Hm, I wonder if they're going in order of the Best Partner stuff with their partners for the nade nade game.

Taichi
Yamato
Koushirou
Jou
Mimi
Sora

Is it wrong that I'm hoping for some Koushirou/Mimi interactions for this new series? Really REALLY hoping? ^^

I hope they don't totally omit the 02 kids. I have no prob if maybe they won't play much of a role, but it would suck for them not to even be there. Besides, I want to see Iori with a girlfriend. :lol: He apparently had one in Natsu e no Tobira, which bummed Daisuke out.

[MikeandRaph87]

I hope the leaked pics are real and the egg looks like it may be Pabumon's, meaning Tentomon's next.

Hm, I wonder if they're going in order of the Best Partner stuff with their partners for the nade nade game.

Taichi
Yamato
Koushirou
Jou
Mimi
Sora

Is it wrong that I'm hoping for some Koushirou/Mimi interactions for this new series? Really REALLY hoping? ^^

I hope they don't totally omit the 02 kids. I have no prob if maybe they won't play much of a role, but it would suck for them not to even be there. Besides, I want to see Iori with a girlfriend. :lol: He apparently had one in Natsu e no Tobira, which bummed Daisuke out.

Tai was the leader and Matt was the second-in-command. The others did not have any ranking did they?

I did not care for pushing the six older ones in the background. I thought Ken's story was great but never cared for the other three.

Speaking of Cody, does anyone else think his hair looks like a helmet? The hairstyle/cut just looks so odd and its not messed up in any place while the other boys have bushy wavy hair except Joe but he has parts in his hair.

I wish this would be posted on the English version of anniversary site. It will not take nearly as long with the advertising for it is getting better like it seems.

Edit: The third egg is Gatomon's. I matched it up on the Digimon wiki.

http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Gatomon_(Adventure)

[ssjup81]

Looks like you're right. I was thinking Frontier Pabumon. For that one the egg had solid circles. That tosses my theory out on the order. lol

Taichi
Yamato
Hikari
Takeru
Koushirou
Jou
Mimi
Sora

That's my new assumption for the Digimon order. Still kinda close to the Best Partner odd/even set up theory I had.

Taichi (01), Hikari (11), Koushirou (03), Mimi (05)
Yamato (02), Takeru (10), Jou (04), Sora (06)

Also there really was no second in command, was there? Just character relevance to the plot seemingly, and it showed after Etemon's defeat. They couldn't keep it together and all parted ways after Taichi vanished and Sora left.

I had no problem with the older kids taking a backseat. It wasn't their adventure. This time the focus will be on Taichi again so it would make sense to focus around the older kids.

And yeah, Iori did have a helmet head. lol But it's not surprising. His character was a traditionalist, and very disciplined. His having such a simple style suited the character. I personally viewed him as a soldier.

[MikeandRaph87]

Looks like you're right. I was thinking Frontier Pabumon. For that one the egg had solid circles. That tosses my theory out on the order. lol

Taichi
Yamato
Hikari
Takeru
Koushirou
Jou
Mimi
Sora

That's my new assumption for the Digimon order. Still kinda close to the Best Partner odd/even set up theory I had.

Taichi (01), Hikari (11), Koushirou (03), Mimi (05)
Yamato (02), Takeru (10), Jou (04), Sora (06)

Also there really was no second in command, was there? Just character relevance to the plot seemingly, and it showed after Etemon's defeat. They couldn't keep it together and all parted ways after Taichi vanished and Sora left.

I had no problem with the older kids taking a backseat. It wasn't their adventure. This time the focus will be on Taichi again so it would make sense to focus around the older kids.

And yeah, Iori did have a helmet head. lol But it's not surprising. His character was a traditionalist, and very disciplined. His having such a simple style suited the character. I personally viewed him as a soldier.

Matt, Tommy, Vegeta are all the #2 characters in their respective team. Equals to the leader and arguably stronger and best friend sometimes rival to the lead character. Cherrimon pretty much says this when talking to Matt who foolishly believed him enough to turn on Tai for all of five minutes. I always viewed Matt as the second most important thus second-in-command. As for your ranking. That is interesting. I just never thought of an order of importance beyond the #2 character.

I got into it because of Tai/Agumon and Matt/Gabumon's appeals to me. Having either of those two or both automatically made it more interesting in season 2 for me. Its all about what characters I get attached to and if those characters are involved its automatically better.

Solider? He does have a bo staff, but he is probably the easiest to defeat Digimon and himself in a fight.:P Not hating on just an observation.

[ssjup81]

Matt, Tommy, Vegeta are all the #2 characters in their respective team. Equals to the leader and arguably stronger and best friend sometimes rival to the lead character. Cherrimon pretty much says this when talking to Matt who foolishly believed him enough to turn on Tai for all of five minutes. I always viewed Matt as the second most important thus second-in-command. As for your ranking. That is interesting. I just never thought of an order of importance beyond the #2 character. I still never personally found him to officially be second-in-command, though. Taichi as leader was a given, though. He kept the team together. He started off unofficially as leader, and it was obvious that everyone thought of him as leader as the series went on. The stuff in Vamdemon's castle kinda showed that. The kids trusted his judgment. Later on when Yamato was being fooled, he put the notion into his head over the leadership stuff. It wasn't there, apparently, before he brought it up. Seems the questioned asked by the blonde was "Why should we be doing any of that stuff to begin with if we didn't choose it?" When I think "second-in-command", I think of one who takes over when the leader is unable to perform his/her duty or responsibility. In other words, the second-in-command steps up and becomes leader. Like a Vice President taking over if the President is incapacitated or whatever. I never got this impression with the Adventure group. Yes, Yamato was the secondary character, but I don't view him as "second-in-command".

To me, second-in-command is like OT Donatello. When Leonardo wasn't leading or giving orders, Donatello was....a lot.I got into it because of Tai/Agumon and Matt/Gabumon's appeals to me.I got into the show because of the actual Digimon themselves. They were intelligent and capable of human speech and weren't really forced into fighting or battling just because their human companions barked out orders to them and how there had to be a connection between them to fight efficiently and effectively. The humans were secondary to me in the beginning. As for Taichi and Yamato...I liked them okay, but didn't favor them or anything, but it did pique my curiosity over how divorce works in Japan and why the boys had different names as opposed to both just having the father's name...and it's because of the Kouseki system they have here.

Getting down to it, as silly as it may sound, the slight realistic approach the show had (despite there being monsters) is what truly drew me into the series.Having either of those two or both automatically made it more interesting in season 2 for me.Hm, not for me. Seeing the others who rarely got focused on like Mimi, Jou, or Sora did this for me.Its all about what characters I get attached to and if those characters are involved its automatically better. I get attached to many characters, so I guess that means the show is always automatically better.Solider? He does have a bo staff, but he is probably the easiest to defeat Digimon and himself in a fight.:P Not hating on just an observation.That has nothing to do with it, and it's a shinai, not a bo staff. He practiced Kendo and as he continues studying it, he can eventually move away from the practice sword to bokuto and real ones. Iori is very traditional and the main issue with his character was his inability to see anything in grey. He saw everything in black and white. He came across as soldier like in this regard. "He's bad, therefore we must fight against him!" Why? Because society taught you that. No need to question authority. He grew up in a police family (hence the Kendo as it's a requirement to study it or Judo in Japan). Very traditional and simplistic in his ways, wearing the perfectly cut approved hair just strikes me as a disciplined soldier in the military.

[MikeandRaph87]

I get what your saying about Cody. Its been a few years since I have seen much of season 2 beyond Battle of The WarGreymon and the final battle with the re-digivolved Myotismon, so my knowledge of the character is faded. he seemed to be the least focused on over everyone.

As for second-in-command, it seemed like the endgame to Matt's story about finding himself and overcoming his loner status to showcase his key trait of friendship, a key to being of leader qualities when needed. It helps that he is the best friend of the leader. He is more reserved so he would not step up to be the leader but being just as good as Tai seemed to show that he could.

Its not silly at all. What drew me to the series was the fact it was so full of characterization. All these things these eight individuals had to overcome to make it work. They had inner demons to beat,learn to get along and use their own strengths for the team, the relationships with their Digimon partner, a child with such weight on his/her shoulders beating these power lusting and world conquering beast of data to perserve two worlds. I give the series such praise for that. Even if I did not care much for Tamers and disagree about the Leomon angle it too had so much characterization for a "kid's cartoon".

[Allio]

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[MikeandRaph87]

How much does it take to remove the rest of the egg shell to get to Gatomon's egg?
http://digimon-adventure.net/

[ssjup81]

No idea. It's strange, isn't it? It has 0 still.

[Leofan26]

I don't know how they'll tie every thing in, saw the new photo of the cast. Looks like the entire original cast is returning together, what about the 02 kids? How are they going to explain there absent while T.K and Karai are here?

Or are they going to do what they did with the original kids and have the 02 cast come in every once in a while to help?

How are they going to explain Mimi's appearance? She's living in New York, never once did she say she came back as a foreign exchange student for a while. Ever since she's moved she stayed, even till she was an adult.

Also, what about Joe? He was absent pretty much for trying to pass those college exams.

Are they going to try and new elements with the old ones and act like some have always been? I don't get it :-?

[ssjup81]

I don't know how they'll tie every thing in, saw the new photo of the cast.The silhouettes or actual photos of them? If it's the latter, I'd like to see it.Looks like the entire original cast is returning together, what about the 02 kids? How are they going to explain there absent while T.K and Karai are here?Maybe Takeru and Hikari won't be around as much as we think. The adventure will obviously (well seemingly) focus on Taichi, so it would make sense for Yamato and Sora to be around as well as Koushirou as I'm sure they'll all be attending the same high school. Koushirou would be in his first year, Taichi, Sora, and Yamato in their second year, Jou in his last year, but who knows what school he'll be in. In 02, he was in junior high school, but the school was a private one (which he was studying for in Adventure and the exam he was taking in movie 2 was for the school he was attending in 02).Or are they going to do what they did with the original kids and have the 02 cast come in every once in a while to help? I think this would make the most sense. If we're focusing on Taichi, we would be focusing on the high-school kids, not the junior high school kids so much.How are they going to explain Mimi's appearance? She's living in New York, never once did she say she came back as a foreign exchange student for a while. Ever since she's moved she stayed, even till she was an adult.Why would she be a foreign exchange student if she came back to Japan? She had to move to the US in the first place because of her father's job. It's very very common here for business to send their employees over seas for a few years. It could be as short as two or three years or maybe something along the lines of five. As a matter of fact, they say working in a company here, it should be expected that you'll be sent overseas at some point. I had a student who was just transferred to Brazil. I think he and his wife will have to stay there for three years.

That aside, Mimi and her family could always move back to Japan after his assignment is over. Also, we have no way of knowing if Mimi stayed in New York until adulthood. It was never stated anywhere.Also, what about Joe? He was absent pretty much for trying to pass those college exams.No he wasn't. He was a junior high school student. He was in his last year of junior high school for 02. Jou's character studies a lot and attended juku (cram school) as well as regular school. He was also attending juku in Adventure as an elementary school student. Juku is so common in Japan for students to do extra studying and can run as late as 10:00 at night.

For 02, he was probably studying extra hard for high-school entrance exams, unless his private school is one of those step-up type places where it holds junior high school and high school and doesn't require one to take a high-school entrance exam because you remain in the same system. Some private (expensive) ones have it all the way through university.

So yeah, the students I could see being busy with "real-life" stuff are:

Jou (preparing for university entrance exams)

Koushirou (because he'll be a first-year high-school student, which means a lot of testing)

Mimi (if she's back in Odaiba, as she'd also be a first-year high-school student)

Miyako (if she appears, preparing for high-school entrance exams)

Takeru, Daisuke, Ken (if they're participating in sports clubs, as it's mandatory for junior high school students to participate in a club and sports clubs are the most time-consuming)

Notice that even in 02 with the Odaiba Junior High School kids...

You saw Yamato more than Sora. You saw Koushirou more than Taichi.

Taichi and Sora had sports clubs (Soccer and Tennis). Yamato and Koushirou didn't.

In high-school, which isn't mandatory to attend in Japan anyway, but most do, club activities aren't mandatory.

[Allio]

been playing All-Star rumble

takes way too damn long to get through the story modes (which are all the same for the characters and all are just as tedious)

luckily you don't have to play the story mode for 4 of the characters (when you unlock one evolution for a digimon, the other will get it....ex. beat aumon's story will also get Omegamon for Gabumon's evolution)

[Netkeeper]

uh, Allio, there's a thread for All Star Rumble in the video game section.

[Allio]

since we may or may not be seeing Hackmon, I wonder if we will also see his guardian sistermons as well...with them and their creepy eyes

[ssjup81]

I'm starting to wonder if there's a glitch....

[MikeandRaph87]

After 11 days of inactivity we have not just Gotomon's egg but three at the same time. It also appears to have started at 500,000 opposed to 1 million. I guess the ones overseeing the project realize it will take a year at the rate it was going so they are hurrying us along. Placing this on the English version of the website would really help matters.

http://digimon-adventure.net/

[ssjup81]

Cool. Maybe they did realize that it would take too long. The eggs are Pichimon, Poyomon, and Yukimibotomaon.

So the order is...

Jou
Takeru Hikari

I guess if they stick to this pattern, based on the silhouettes, next time it'll be...

Nyokimon
Pabumon Yuramon

Sora
Koushirou Mimi

[ssjup81]

Wow, the count is going down fast. Yesterday afternoon, it was like 480,000 something. It's 471,000 something now.

[ssjup81]

This is so awesome! This count is going down fast. What info do you think will be revealed this time?

[ssjup81]

So on a work day I can get a lot of of clicks.

Laptop: 1
iPad: 1
iPod Touch: 1
iPhone 4: 1
iPhone 5: 3

Neat, eh? Using the wifi I can get extra clicks. If I brought my laptop to work, I could get another click through that too. On the iPhone 5 I have LINE, but I can't to the extra wifi trick thing through that. Only once. With the browser, I can click once with the cellular data and then connect to wifi and get another. If I charge my Nook, I could use the browser through that and get a click through wifi and I'm sure I could if I used my PSP and 3DS. That'd be 10-11 clicks a day. lol

That aside, I was hoping they'd show the kids out of sillouette form, but seeing their partners would be nice, but we don't know if they will go mega.

[MikeandRaph87]

So on a work day I can get a lot of of clicks.

Laptop: 1
iPad: 1
iPod Touch: 1
iPhone 4: 1
iPhone 5: 3

Neat, eh? Using the wifi I can get extra clicks. If I brought my laptop to work, I could get another click through that too. On the iPhone 5 I have LINE, but I can't to the extra wifi trick thing through that. Only once. With the browser, I can click once with the cellular data and then connect to wifi and get another. If I charge my Nook, I could use the browser through that and get a click through wifi and I'm sure I could if I used my PSP and 3DS. That'd be 10-11 clicks a day. lol

That aside, I was hoping they'd show the kids out of sillouette form, but seeing their partners would be nice, but we don't know if they will go mega.

Fan assumption is the other six will gain a mega form by the end of the season. I would like to have Tai and Matt have a league up on the others but it would be cool to have them reach the level as well.

I get five a day. Three on my personal computer and two on my work computer.

It dropped just under 30,000 in one day! A nice jump! Its now at 348,150.

[ssjup81]

Fan assumption is the other six will gain a mega form by the end of the season. I would like to have Tai and Matt have a league up on the others but it would be cool to have them reach the level as well.

I get five a day. Three on my personal computer and two on my work computer.

It dropped just under 30,000 in one day! A nice jump! Its now at 348,150.I didn't even think about the Digimon going to higher forms. My assumptions jumped straight to the human characters. lol

That aside, I'm not so sure I'd want to see all of the Digimon go mega...would take away from the uniqueness of it...and to be honest, I don't think I have any partner megas I favor (from the Adventure/02 groups that were featured).

Metal Garurumon...was meh, as I really really liked Weregarurumon.
War Greymon was....meh to me.
Imperialdramon and its mode changes didn't appeal to me much..
Omegamon I didn't care for...
Seraphimon and Holydramon didn't really do anything for movie 3...

I think the only mega form that would've grasped my interest would've been Rosemon, but I've finally seen the character, albeit it was through Digimon Savers and the V-Tamer manga, but prior to both, Rosemon was the mega I was most interested in. She looked cool and had a whip and since one of her moves was called "Roses Rapier" I figured she'd have a sword-like move too. lol

[Netkeeper]

What are the actual canon mega forms for some of those forked-evolution Digimon like Gatomon and Gomamon? Because I prefer Magnadramon and Plesiomon to the alternatives. Love me some long-necked dino/dragons. And on that note, the only form of Imperialdramon I like is the dragon form.

[ssjup81]

What are the actual canon mega forms for some of those forked-evolution Digimon like Gatomon and Gomamon? Because I prefer Magnadramon and Plesiomon to the alternatives. Love me some long-necked dino/dragons. And on that note, the only form of Imperialdramon I like is the dragon form.Here you are...As for confirmed Megas (ultimates) for the show's characters (and my PSP Digimon Adventure RPG game) I think they were...

Piyomon > Birdramon > Garudamon > Hououmon

Tentomon > Kabuterimon >AtlurKabuterimon > Heracles Kabuterimon

Palmon > Togemon > Lilymon > Rosemon

Gomamon > Ikkakumon > Zudomon > Marine Angemon or either Pleisomon (this was debated years ago, but I'm sure for Jou's Gomamon it's Marine Angemom)

Patamon > Angemon > Holy Angemon > Seraphimon

Plotmon > Tailmon > Angewomon > Holy Dramon (I think it might be Ophanimon for the game but for the anime Holy Dramon...she can evolve to both)

So yeah, Digimon have many evolutionary paths. Some natural (like the Adventure kids' paths) or either a special circumstance (like the 02 group).

I'm not sure if it still exists, but you should look up Megchan's Digimon Encyclopedia.For the game it is Ophanimon as opposed to Holydramon, but who knows which will be used if they have her go mega in this upcoming series.

[pharaohyami5000]

Wait. Wasn't Vikemon for 1 of Gomamon's Mega/Ultimate evolution in the PSP Adventure game?

I guess there's no other alternative Ultimate form for Lilymon?

[Allio]

They could go reverse Lalamon and give her Lotusmon

[Netkeeper]

Well then I'm pretty satisfied with that. I prefer Plesiomon to Vikemon or MarineAngemon, but MarineAngemon is pretty cute too.

Vikemon is butt ugly by the way. Way to make the best Ultimate form turn into something hideous. [Zudomon is incredible, okay? A giant turtle with Thor's hammer?]

[ssjup81]

Wait. Wasn't Vikemon for 1 of Gomamon's Mega/Ultimate evolution in the PSP Adventure game?

I guess there's no other alternative Ultimate form for Lilymon?Oh wait, for the Digimon RPG game I think it is Vikemon for Gomamon...but years ago, I'm pretty sure for Jou's Gomamon, it was MarineAngemon. I haven't unlocked Jou's mega stuff yet. I'm more intent on getting Rosemon and I also haven't played in a while. Between that 7 week hospital visit and now work...kinda busy to play...and I lost my PSP charger. It's someplace. ^^;

Anyway, it's just like how back then, the ultimate (mega) for Tailmon (Gatomon) was Holydramon and was actually used in the series (well, movie 3). For the RPG game it's Ophanimon.

Oh as for Lilymon, she can evolve to Marine Angemon and Holydramon. Surprisingly, Lilymon can naturally evolve to Marine Angemon. For Holydramon, Lilymon has to Jogress evolve with Angewomon.

Who knows what other paths Lilymon has now since I don't keep up with the games very much.

[Netkeeper]

Ugh. Ophanimon bothers me as a mega for Adventure's Gatomon. **** that ****. I want my fuzzy pink long-necked dragon. Girl Falkor!

[Mandy Chan]

I love Digimon, so I was really excited when I heard about this. Im so happy I'll get to see Gomamon again ^^.

[ssjup81]

I love Digimon, so I was really excited when I heard about this. Im so happy I'll get to see Gomamon again ^^.Then don't forget to go to the site and play the nade-nade game so we can get more information about the upcoming series. ^_^

http://digimon-adventure.net/

[Shred Head]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Lord-Zedd/tumblr_ngiv5dyQU11rtjgwno1_1280.jpg

In the words of Izzy prodigious! We finally got a look at he designs from the official poster as well as the logo. Poor Jo everyone is either having a good time or in awe and he's having a panic attack guy cant get a break even in promo artwork.

[MikeandRaph87]

The third set of information is now released. Staff information and a visual of all 8 Digi-Destined. It looks like Byiomon is next in the information set. Maybe whatever countdown for that will be started up in a week. There has to be some retconning involved. I am interested in how the story will be set up for their adventure to happen considering events of Adventure 02.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-13/new-digimon-anime-staff-key-visual-title-unveiled/.82117

[ssjup81]

Oh man! I was right! So Mimi is back in Japan! Her uniform is the same as Sora, Yamato, Taichi, and Koushirou's! Takeru and Hikari are in the Odaiba Junior High School Uniform and Jou's looks different from the other high-school aged kids, meaning he's probably going to a good private school (like he did in 02; he was in a private junior high school for that).

I wonder if Koushirou and Mimi will have the same class, like they did when they were at Odaiba Elementary. They'll both be first years, so at least they'll probably interact and stuff. Yeah yeah...showing my bias again for these two. But I am glad Mimi will officially be back as she's a favorite character for me.

I'm becoming more excited! At least we get to see the characters now. The promo poster is okay I guess. Still curious what the story will be and if the 02 cast will make an appearance, but play the "supporting" role like the older kids did in 02.

I can't believe how fast this one took. I so hope they do three eggs again as opposed to just Sora's. I want more info pronto, unless they start with lower hits again, like with the recent three.

[pharaohyami5000]

Hmm. Looks nice. I'll watch it regardless, as Digimon is 1 of my favorite shows, even with Young Hunters being such a downgrade.

Wait... Taichi doesn't have his goggles?!

[ssjup81]

Hmm. Looks nice. I'll watch it regardless, as Digimon is 1 of my favorite shows, even with Young Hunters being such a downgrade.

Wait... Taichi doesn't have his goggles?!Why would he? He gave them to Daisuke after his broke in Digimon Advenutre 02.

Daisuke actually has an image theme about the goggles called "Goggleboy". He was pretty much singing about how much he treasured Taichi's goggles and how the goggles are like his own crest of courage and how he wanted to live up to that honor and stuff and treats them preciously.

[Leofan26]

Does any one find the new Animation hideous? UGH! If I didn't watch the series myself I'd think they were two different shows.

Matt and T.K look like they were from completely different Anime.

I was so excited for this series too but the new Animation is a major turn off :ohwell:

[pharaohyami5000]

The animation looks similar to those Digimon movies. Our War Games, as a sample. Or... I guess the Digimon Movie for the US.

[Netkeeper]

Does any one find the new Animation hideous? UGH! If I didn't watch the series myself I'd think they were two different shows.

Matt and T.K look like they were from completely different Anime.

I was so excited for this series too but the new Animation is a major turn off :ohwell:
This. I don't like the new animation at all. I'm hoping this is just stylised promo art.

[ssjup81]

This. I don't like the new animation at all. I'm hoping this is just stylised promo art.Why does it matter? Last I look, the most important aspect to pretty much anything is plot, story, and characterization. I don't care for this art style myself, but I'm not going to dismiss it for something so trivial. At least it's not as horrid as the art style for Diablomon Strikes Back (movie 4). The movie was okay in a general sense, but the art was pretty bad, but at least the characters acted like themselves and I knew who they were...just like in that promo pic.

Seriously, I've never been big on graphics. Despite hating Knuckles' redesign for Sonic Boom with an extreme passion, I'm still giving the series a fair chance to see how it is. It's entertaining so far....still hate Knuckles' design and I also don't like his portrayal in the series either... They made him completely stupid for this series. All brawn and no brain. -_-

Maybe I'm not as vocal about graphics because I grew up with 8bit game graphics and seeing Atari stuff where you had to use your imagination. I dunno. Simple doesn't bother me.

[Netkeeper]

Uh, I never said I'm not going to give the show a chance or not watch it just because I don't like the art. I'm still going to watch it, and I'm probably going to love it, and I hope the art grows on me.

[Leofan26]

Why does it matter? Last I look, the most important aspect to pretty much anything is plot, story, and characterization. I don't care for this art style myself, but I'm not going to dismiss it for something so trivial. At least it's not as horrid as the art style for Diablomon Strikes Back (movie 4). The movie was okay in a general sense, but the art was pretty bad, but at least the characters acted like themselves and I knew who they were...just like in that promo pic.

Seriously, I've never been big on graphics. Despite hating Knuckles' redesign for Sonic Boom with an extreme passion, I'm still giving the series a fair chance to see how it is. It's entertaining so far....still hate Knuckles' design and I also don't like his portrayal in the series either... They made him completely stupid for this series. All brawn and no brain. -_-

Maybe I'm not as vocal about graphics because I grew up with 8bit game graphics and seeing Atari stuff where you had to use your imagination. I dunno. Simple doesn't bother me.

At least those films I could tell who the characters were, Mimi and Joe I can tell cuz of the hair color and glasses.

Seriously, if I didn't see the first two shows I wouldn't be able to tell if that was Matt and T.K or Tai. They look really different in this series, why the guy's felt they needed to give these characters a complete make over is beyond me :ohwell:

[ssjup81]

Uh, I never said I'm not going to give the show a chance or not watch it just because I don't like the art. I'm still going to watch it, and I'm probably going to love it, and I hope the art grows on me.Oh, well never mind. Sorry about the accusation. ^^;At least those films I could tell who the characters were, Mimi and Joe I can tell cuz of the hair color and glasses.

Seriously, if I didn't see the first two shows I wouldn't be able to tell if that was Matt and T.K or Tai. They look really different in this series, why the guy's felt they needed to give these characters a complete make over is beyond me :ohwell:Wow, I figured it out at first glance, but even I admitted I'm not into this art style. I can still tell who's who, though, even the two quarter-French brothers. Takeru's hair has always been shorter than Yamato's. I guess it would've been nicer if they looked a bit closer to the old style, but I can still tell who's who.

Personally, for the promo thing, I feel they just should've filled in that silhouette pic.

That aside, I hope they reveal seiyuu information next. I'm dying to know who's going to voice Taichi and Koushirou. I'm also curious about the music as well as the 02 cast and if they're going to be in it. It'd be weird for them not to appear, especially Daisuke and Miyako. Miyako, in canon, is a student of Odaiba Junior High School (she was preparing to attend there in movie 4 and by the time this series starts, she'll be in her last year there) and Daisuke has always had classes with Hikari and I doubt he'd just suddenly move and not be in school with Takeru and Hikari.

[ssjup81]

The third set of information is now released. Staff information and a visual of all 8 Digi-Destined. It looks like Byiomon is next in the information set. Maybe whatever countdown for that will be started up in a week. There has to be some retconning involved. I am interested in how the story will be set up for their adventure to happen considering events of Adventure 02.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-13/new-digimon-anime-staff-key-visual-title-unveiled/.82117Out of curiosity, what would they have to possibly retcon?

[Netkeeper]

Oh, well never mind. Sorry about the accusation. ^^;
Haha, it happens, no hard feelings.

[MikeandRaph87]

Out of curiosity, what would they have to possibly retcon?

Some elements of season 2 would have to go. Would the four additional Digidestined exist? Is there an age limit that meant that only T.K. and Kari were able to get direct access to the Digital World come events of season 2 or will it be rewritten so Tai and the other five can have access at any time or still called upon when sucked into the Digital World again? Did Mimi move back to Tokyo? How will Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon for example be worked around from the very start so not to be too powerful? Things like that came to my mind.

[ssjup81]

Some elements of season 2 would have to go. Would the four additional Digidestined exist?Why wouldn't they? Ken is the reason for 02 existing, getting down to it. His story with Ryou pretty much triggered the events of 02.Is there an age limit that meant that only T.K. and Kari were able to get direct access to the Digital World come events of season 2 or will it be rewritten so Tai and the other five can have access at any time or still called upon when sucked into the Digital World again?Maybe access to and from the Digital World won't be limited anymore. Even between Adventure and 02, it was said that the gate would still randomly open for them to enter and they can, apparently, be summoned there.

That aside, it depends on what the show is promoting. For 02, it was promoting the Digimentals, D3s, D-Terminals, and the recent armor evolutions from the games. Maybe they won't have to rewrite anything regarding this. Maybe there's a catch. IF there are no evils threatening either world, maybe the Holy Beast Guardians allowed the gates to remain open.

Or....the kids are going to be zapped back to the Digital World again sorta like the first series. :P

Oh and the "age" thing was applied to those under the age of 13 (being chosen). Takeru and Hikari would be 14 for this series.Did Mimi move back to Tokyo?Obviously. She was living in the US because of her father having a job transfer, which is canon.

In Japan, if you work for a company that has branches in other countries, cities, or towns, then expect to be transferred at least once in your life (depending on your ranking or job at said company). Usually these people may be transferred for a year, three years, maybe five at the most. That's usually why Japanese companies force their employees to study English or Chinese (for business purposes). I've had students transferred to Brazil, the US, the UK, and China. For the one who had to leave for Brazil this year, he said he's going to be there for about four years then he'll return to Japan. He took his family with him. His wife was trying to study Portuguese and English. The guy that was transferred to China was studying both English and Chinese, but he said the Chinese wouldn't be a problem since most of the communicating would be done in English. I think he was going to be transferred for....two years.

I have two little girls (4 and 8). A few years ago, their family had to move to Connecticut for about a year because of their father's work, their mother told me. She told me that it was really nice where they lived and really liked the US, but she's divorced now and she and her two daughters are studying English.

So yeah, it's very common and never permanent, unless the workers themselves decide to try to stay long-term as opposed to short-term.

That aside, I am wondering something regarding Mimi. Will they approach her being back in Japan on a social level issue since she's older. It's like Izumi in Digimon Frontier. Her character (because of her father's work, iirc), lived in Italy for a while, but had trouble making friends because she came across as "not Japanese"....which is an issue here with kids (and even some adults) who study overseas or have lived overseas for some. They approached the divorce and adoption, so it would be interesting if they incorporate that in as well somehow and maybe show Mimi having trouble fitting in since she'd been overseas for so long.How will Wargreymon and Metalgarurumon for example be worked around from the very start so not to be too powerful? Things like that came to my mind.For this we'll just have to wait for the story. Maybe all of the kids' partners will be able to go ultimate (mega).

[ssjup81]

Geez, still no new egg to nade nade. Wish they'd hurry up.

[ssjup81]

Magazine info...but I can't make it out. Too small for me. There are a couple of screenshots from the show, though.

http://zakitakubu.com/2014/12/31/digimon-adventures-tri-screen-shots-revealed/

[ssjup81]

The nade-nade game is back but with only two eggs. Palmon and Piyomon's. I wonder why they're only doing two. Tentomon's last.

Also, I'm not sure, but maybe the count started at 550,000. I hope this goes down fast. I want more information.

[MikeandRaph87]

85,000 nade-nade has been knocked off in three days. Hopefully in a couple of weeks we will get more information on the series.

ANy ideas to when and which network it will air in the USA? I am thinking the Toon Disney thus Disney has the syndication rights at the moment.

[Allio]

it will probably be nicktoons. since Fusion is more or less dead.