Turtles Forever Too

[saintsaucey]

Would you want to see a version of turtles forever in this series featuring these turtles, the 2007 movie turtles and animated versions of the 2014 movie turtles?

[CyberCubed]

They won't crossover with anyone other than the OT Turtles, maybe the 4kids ones if we're lucky.

[saintsaucey]

They won't crossover with anyone other than the OT Turtles, maybe the 4kids ones if we're lucky.

How many of us shouted down the possibility of Bebop and Rocksteady too. Not saying it will happen just wondering if anyone wanted it.

[IndigoErth]

Eh I could take it or leave it. Although given how the 2003 guys seem to have largely regarded the original series guys as children they were forced to tolerate... I can't say I wouldn't mind seeing those tables turned when the 2014s would show up. (Note, I hope I've got me details straight since I've only seen it once and not really watched the 2003 series, yet.)

[saintsaucey]

Eh I could take it or leave it. Although given how the 2003 guys seem to have largely regarded the original series guys as children they were forced to tolerate... I can't say I wouldn't mind seeing those tables turned when the 2014s would show up. (Note, I hope I've got me details straight since I've only seen it once and not really watched the 2003 series, yet.)

Well the 2003 figures wouldn't be in it. It would be the 07 movie turtles and the 14 movie turtles.

[TurtleTitan97]

I doubt we'll see this show do any kind "Turtles Forever" crossover. Which is fine with me, because I sure don't want to see the 2014 Turtles show up in animated form. I'm fine with just cameos of the OT Turtles.

[Konchadunga]

The thing about doing a Turtles Forever scenario is that at some point, the movie needs to justify its existence as something other than a gimmick. A gimmick to bring viewers in is what crossovers are by default, but when it's handled well, they're more likely to stay. There needs to be some dynamic between all the characters that appeals to people; nobody should be there just to be there. I'd be fine (delighted, even) watching a fight scene or playing a video game where turtles from all over the multiverse team up against some army, but such shallow interaction can't sustain a movie.

Added to that, I don't really see how the characters of each of those universes you stated would interact. Besides the exclamation of "Hey; there's other universes like ours", there's little chance for a shock to any character. Each universe has a Shredder (or did), two are set in a New York that's no stranger to the supernatural, and the remaining version's New York is so mundane it wouldn't shock anybody.

[Netkeeper]

it's turtles forever TWO

[Powder]

It's you missing a reference.

[Netkeeper]

no i see the reference but it doesnt make any sense in the context

[Metalwolf]

No, I hate the idea of multiverses. I'd just rather respect the Nick toon in what the 80's toon is considered, another dimension and not universe.

Besides, I hated Turtles Forever and it's metaverse of doom. The only reason it's so loved is because it showed the 80s' Turtles. If it was the 2007 Turtles I bet people wouldn't even give a toss.

[Netkeeper]

that's because the 2007 turtles arent even interesting

[Warhorse]

Well the 2003 figures wouldn't be in it. It would be the 07 movie turtles and the 14 movie turtles.

Why would the 07 movie be in it but not the 2k3? This doesn't make sense.

I am all for something that incorporates Mirage, 80's, 2k3 and Nick though.

[TurFlytle]

it's turtles forever TWO

Thank you grammar nazi.

[Netkeeper]

Thank you grammar nazi.
You're welcome! :tgrin:

[victory_angel]

No, I hate the idea of multiverses. I'd just rather respect the Nick toon in what the 80's toon is considered, another dimension and not universe.

Besides, I hated Turtles Forever and it's metaverse of doom. The only reason it's so loved is because it showed the 80s' Turtles. If it was the 2007 Turtles I bet people wouldn't even give a toss.

It's kind like that theory about parallel universes. Where in every decision you make another parallel world is created where you do other decisions. So the metaverse was saying every incarnation a new universe for the Turtles is created.

[ABrown]

Nickelodeon clearly has no interest in the 4Kids series. The only reason that Nick released Turtles Forever on dvd is because it featured the original cartoon's characters. But I could absolutely see more crossing over with the original cartoon in the future.

[Metalwolf]

It's kind like that theory about parallel universes. Where in every decision you make another parallel world is created where you do other decisions. So the metaverse was saying every incarnation a new universe for the Turtles is created.If they wanted a multiverse that's one thing. But what got to me was them trying to make a meta point to the audience that everything was all make believe in the end, that everything is all the result of some out of universe comic book authors. When I was younger I loved the show Sliders, which was this small group of researchers traveling to alternate universes and seeing how things 'could have been' if history hadn't developed as it did in this one. It did not beat you ever the head that it was fiction, it simply told a story and developed a world.

What Turtles Forever did that was the cardinal sin (besides crapping on the 80's cartoon)was take the imaginary world that was developed and tore it down in the attempt to put a meta spin on it. People would say "Oh but that world still exists!' It might technically 'exist,' but it no longer feels like it could. You could imagine the Sliders people existing in our world, traveling to alternate dimensions. You knew the show was fiction, but the fun was imagining what if. TMNT was the same way. You could imagine TMNT living in the sewers in New York in the same way, a sort of what if.

This movie undoes that feeling. Everything becomes a product of a comic book, both in-universe and out. It no longer is a living breathing universe that could feel like it was a part of our own, but a fragile 'alien' multiverse that can never have a connection, because it tells you it isn't real.

That is why I hate Turtles Forever and hope never to see 'Turtles Forever Two' come to pass or anything like it. I'm guessing people only like it because it shows the OT again 'on air,' but OT can be harkened back to without trying to destroy the very universe it's supposed to exist in.

[THGhost]

It's you missing a reference.

Care to explain? Cos I don't get it, haven't seen Turtles Forever for a while. :P

it's turtles forever TWO

Thank you.

Well the 2003 figures wouldn't be in it. It would be the 07 movie turtles and the 14 movie turtles.

Oh God, no.

[Konchadunga]

If they wanted a multiverse that's one thing. But what got to me was them trying to make a meta point to the audience that everything was all make believe in the end, that everything is all the result of some out of universe comic book authors. When I was younger I loved the show Sliders, which was this small group of researchers traveling to alternate universes and seeing how things 'could have been' if history hadn't developed as it did in this one. It did not beat you ever the head that it was fiction, it simply told a story and developed a world.

What Turtles Forever did that was the cardinal sin (besides crapping on the 80's cartoon)was take the imaginary world that was developed and tore it down in the attempt to put a meta spin on it. People would say "Oh but that world still exists!' It might technically 'exist,' but it no longer feels like it could. You could imagine the Sliders people existing in our world, traveling to alternate dimensions. You knew the show was fiction, but the fun was imagining what if. TMNT was the same way. You could imagine TMNT living in the sewers in New York in the same way, a sort of what if.

This movie undoes that feeling. Everything becomes a product of a comic book, both in-universe and out. It no longer is a living breathing universe that could feel like it was a part of our own, but a fragile 'alien' multiverse that can never have a connection, because it tells you it isn't real.

That is why I hate Turtles Forever and hope never to see 'Turtles Forever Two' come to pass or anything like it. I'm guessing people only like it because it shows the OT again 'on air,' but OT can be harkened back to without trying to destroy the very universe it's supposed to exist in.

Agreed. And Ch'rel's plan shouldn't even have worked by fictional standards. Why would the Mirage Turtles dying destroy whole worlds? Rambo dies in the original book, and he still went on to become a multimedia icon. So did Sherlock Holmes.

[CyberCubed]

Turtles Forever was an incredible movie, but I liked it more as the 2k3 finale rather than the OT crossover.

[Metalwolf]

Agreed. And Ch'rel's plan shouldn't even have worked by fictional standards. Why would the Mirage Turtles dying destroy whole worlds? Rambo dies in the original book, and he still went on to become a multimedia icon. So did Sherlock Holmes.And what else is in the 'does not make sense' category is that all of these other 'universes' already exist, with full TMNT tropes, yet at the end they just only finished developing the comic! Even the 2k3 one exists, and that has modern day (2003 and later) real world technology in it that E&L would not have thought of, when the first issue comic was made in the mid '80s!

This movie fails to make sense with itself, as why would one fictional universe have technology 20 years advanced and happening exactly as it would do later in E and L's future?

I'm glad Nick and Co. don't seem to acknowledge that movie, and appear to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to anything 2k3. Hopefully this continues, and that it can be something primarily the 2k3 fans' thing.

[CyberCubed]

I'm glad Nick and Co. don't seem to acknowledge that movie, and appear to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to anything 2k3. Hopefully this continues, and that it can be something primarily the 2k3 fans' thing.

But they do acknowledge the movie, and the movie itself was a fantastic series finale to TMNT 2k3.

[Technogeek29]

Anyone feel like we've been here before?:ohwell:

[Coola Yagami]

But they do acknowledge the movie, and the movie itself was a fantastic series finale to TMNT 2k3.

Not yet it hasn't.

[Netkeeper]

I'm glad Nick and Co. don't seem to acknowledge that movie, and appear to let sleeping dogs lie when it comes to anything 2k3. Hopefully this continues, and that it can be something primarily the 2k3 fans' thing.
Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

[ssjup81]

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?It isn't fair, but I wonder if this is a karma thing for how badly those involved with the 2k3 series apparently treated the OT series.

[Tuxedo Moroboshi]

It isn't fair, but I wonder if this is a karma thing for how badly those involved with the 2k3 series apparently treated the OT series.
You must not had noticed the crapton of 2k3 haters all over the internet back when it was new that hated it solely for being so different from the 87 toon.

That being said, what are you even going on about? :-?

[ssjup81]

You must not had noticed the crapton of 2k3 haters all over the internet back when it was new that hated it solely for being so different from the 87 toon.

That being said, what are you even going on about? :-?"What goes around comes around". Karma. I also wasn't around during that time either so I didn't know about the "hate" that you mentioned.

I've never seen Turtles Forever or much of the 2k3 series because I couldn't get into it, which is why I said "apparently" and can't state anything as fact regarding either. I made the statement solely because of the Turtle Forever special and how those here said that it portrayed the OT turtles in a bad light.

[THGhost]

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

Tell me about it. :roll:

[Netkeeper]

"What goes around comes around". Karma. I also wasn't around during that time either so I didn't know about the "hate" that you mentioned.

I've never seen Turtles Forever or much of the 2k3 series because I couldn't get into it, which is why I said "apparently" and can't state anything as fact regarding either. I made the statement solely because of the Turtle Forever special and how those here said that it portrayed the OT turtles in a bad light.
Oh no, there was DEFINITELY hate around 2k3, especially when it was first released.

I should know. I was one of the people that didn't want to watch it at first because it wasn't stupidly silly.

[Warhorse]

It isn't fair, but I wonder if this is a karma thing for how badly those involved with the 2k3 series apparently treated the OT series.

You know, 2 wrongs never make a right. Just saying. Nick could be the more mature franchise and hold out a welcoming hand for all of the fans, not just for the select few.

Maybe I am looking at it the wrong way, but wasn't 2k3 Peter Laird's baby? And wasn't Peter Laird the one that finally sold the franchise to Nick? Kind of crappy to just pay him off and snub the show he seemed to have a passion for, because if it wasn't for him selling to begin with, Nick would never have the juggernaut they got now. Of course, I could be misunderstanding the whole Laird/2k3 connection, and my outlook is completely moot.

[tmntpower1988]

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?

I feel annoyed about it too. If Nick have no intention of re-releasing 2k3 on DVD after buying the rights to the series then they're a bunch of pr*cks.

Oh no, there was DEFINITELY hate around 2k3, especially when it was first released.

I should know. I was one of the people that didn't want to watch it at first because it wasn't stupidly silly.

Same, I used to hate 2k3 when it first aired because it was far more serious than the FW series and another reason was that it didn't have Bebop and Rocksteady lol I remember watching Shredder Strikes thinking to myself "Why is Shredder so scary?" :lol:

[alliance]

f*ck the dreaded 2k3 series, im so happy that nick isn't acknowledging that pathetic attempt as a series hell they even RELIED on the older more Popular cartoon from the 80's..


this is how it went from most fans when they first heard about turtles forever:



[B]tom: dude there bringing back the 80's turtles cartoon!!

john: sweet dude!! how there doing this??

tom: there gonna bring them back and join the 4 Kids turtles!!!!!

john: whats the 4Kids turtles????????

tom: I dunno....


:lol::lol: hahahahaha!!!! LMFAO!!!!!! :lol::lol::lol:

[THGhost]

^
Oh dear. :roll:

Maybe I am looking at it the wrong way, but wasn't 2k3 Peter Laird's baby? And wasn't Peter Laird the one that finally sold the franchise to Nick? Kind of crappy to just pay him off and snub the show he seemed to have a passion for, because if it wasn't for him selling to begin with, Nick would never have the juggernaut they got now. Of course, I could be misunderstanding the whole Laird/2k3 connection, and my outlook is completely moot.

I believe it was. And it is kinda crappy that Nick are ignoring the 2K3 series, given the fact that it had the best storylines and fight scenes. Part of me wishes he hasn't sold the franchise to Nick, then we might have actually got a complete DVD set of the 2K3 series after Turtles Forever came out.

[alliance]

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.

[Turo602]

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.

You sound like an angry butthurt.

[Metalwolf]

Why would you be glad Nick doesn't acknowledge 2k3. Do you know how frustrating it is to be a 2k3 fan right now? Trying to collect over-priced DVDs, having to import from other countries, and begging Nick on Twitter to think about this series for once in their damn lives?Because by proxy, it renders Turtles Forever irrelevant.

By itself, sans Forever, it is just another ordinary Turtles series. I wouldn't have anything against it. But then it went on to mess with two sacred cows of TMNTdom that I hold dear.

The first is disrespecting the OT.

The second is by outright ripping apart the premise of TMNT by openly declaring in-universe everything is the product of a comic book. Part of the appeal of a story is imagining it exists, and that can't be done when the universe itself is saying it doesn't.

That's why I'm glad it's not acknowledged.

[alliance]

You sound like an angry butthurt.

I am and completely..

[Coola Yagami]

Who cares? The 2K3 series came and went. Whatever. Let it die.

Besides, the 2K3 series did whatever it could to set it apart from the 80's version...so now the 2012 is doing what it can to set it apart from the 2K3.

The main reason this series caters to the 80;s is because if it wasn't for that show, there wouldn't be any tmnt cartoons or movies now, period. It still would have been some indapendant black and white comic that would have eventually have faded out and been forgotten like many other indie comics that never made it to cartoons or movies. The 80's cartoon put it on the map, and this new show is nice enough to acknowledge it.

[CyberCubed]

I honestly think alliance has some severe autism, he's been constantly saying the same thing over and over again for months.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Mods, are you seeing this?

[THGhost]

...the 2K3 series did whatever it could to set it apart from the 80's version...so now the 2012 is doing what it can to set it apart from the 2K3.


And the 80s cartoon did everything it could to set itself apart from the comics, which put them on the map in the first place. I'm noticing a pattern there.

Mods, are you seeing this?

What mods? ;)

[Netkeeper]

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.
How is this dude not banned? He can't even type coherently. He literally smells like underage. Where are your parents, and why are they not supervising your internet time, kid?

Because by proxy, it renders Turtles Forever irrelevant.

By itself, sans Forever, it is just another ordinary Turtles series. I wouldn't have anything against it. But then it went on to mess with two sacred cows of TMNTdom that I hold dear.

The first is disrespecting the OT.

The second is by outright ripping apart the premise of TMNT by openly declaring in-universe everything is the product of a comic book. Part of the appeal of a story is imagining it exists, and that can't be done when the universe itself is saying it doesn't.

That's why I'm glad it's not acknowledged.
Dude, it's a single movie. There is no need for this kind of disproportionate anger. Just because there was a bias for the 2k3 turtles in the writing doesn't mean the writers were out to attack you personally.

But you're also wrong anyway, since while 2k3 has gone ignored, Turtles Forever hasn't.

[alliance]

How is this dude not banned? He can't even type coherently. He literally smells like underage. Where are your parents, and why are they not supervising your internet time, kid?


[sorry to for goin off topic but I feel I must before its too late]

i'll tell u why because I EXPLAIN my reasonings and keep it well thought out, the only time I got a ban was a temp ban cause I called out ramboraph for his bull crap and called him a bastard, and that I understand the temporary ban... I respect the rules and my fellow posters and I expect the same from you guys aswell, stop defining anything I say against the 4kids as trolling, im NOT a troll and quite frankly I don't like them, I always explain my responses whenever someone asks me, if u give u lil jab on 4kids so what ??? its a public forum! stop getting sand in your vagina and whining and crying about things.

i'll say it before and i'll say it again here is a post once made by Ciro :

im not coming here anymore, you guys are depressing.
get a sense of humor and start enjoying life.


hell im already BANNED from the 4kids section for god sakes if I let off some steam then so what/??, im very passionate about the bashing in turtles forever towards OT and I will always defend my turtles...

thank you mods for not giving into the pressure from these guys I can only imagine how times ive been reported by some of you..

[Netkeeper]

It's almost 10:00. It's past your bedtime.

[Technogeek29]

I swear we've cover this topic before?

[CyberCubed]

This same topic was in the 4kids section months back and alliance was posting the same rants in that thread too. You can probably read it if you dig through is post history.

[pennydreadful]

Alliance, if you actually respected your fellow board members, you would:
a) use correct punctuation, and not text-speak like 'u'
b) wouldn't make insulting sexist remarks (to break it down for you - implying that people who don't agree with you have vaginas and are therefore inferior is sexist)
c) wouldn't be dismissive of other people's feelings by referring to them as whiners.

You don't like 2k3 - hooray, good for you. But for heaven's sake, try to behave with a little maturity. If you're aware that you're being reported by people, it might be pertinent to stop for a moment and take a look at your own behavior.

People couldn't care less if you don't like 2k3 - it is your manner that offends.

[Papenbrook]

Please stop arguing.

Anyway, I don't want a Turtles Forever Too. The show should focus on developing its own elements. I want the show to get better.

[alliance]

Alliance, if you actually respected your fellow board members, you would:
a) use correct punctuation, and not text-speak like 'u'
b) wouldn't make insulting sexist remarks (to break it down for you - implying that people who don't agree with you have vaginas and are therefore inferior is sexist)
c) wouldn't be dismissive of other people's feelings by referring to them as whiners.
You don't like 2k3 - hooray, good for you. But for heaven's sake, try to behave with a little maturity. If you're aware that you're being reported by people, it might be pertinent to stop for a moment and take a look at your own behavior.

People couldn't care less if you don't like 2k3 - it is your manner that offends.

u mean like people bashing the movie left and right but that's ok since its the in thing to do?

but ofcourse they did it with class unlike me :trolleye:

u know if u really tried I bet u can nag a tree to death...

[pennydreadful]

The behavior in the movie threads is equally annoying, which is why I am not participating in 99.99% of conversations there. Guess it's too much to ask that the asinine behavior be confined simply to the movie section, neh?

And for the record, trees cannot be nagged to death. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve - you're not being funny or putting me in my place. You're just needlessly bringing an argument into a thread for no reason, and it's extremely unwelcome.

[alliance]

The behavior in the movie threads is equally annoying, which is why I am not participating in 99.99% of conversations there. Guess it's too much to ask that the asinine behavior be confined simply to the movie section, neh?

And for the record, trees cannot be nagged to death. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve - you're not being funny or putting me in my place. You're just needlessly bringing an argument into a thread for no reason, and it's extremely unwelcome.

right u mean like like how everyone else was pointing this out FIRST when I simply stated my joy that 4kids isn't coming back, u know ...my FIRST response related to the ACTUAL THREAD...before people actually started crying once again..

is that what u mean by "bringing an argument into a thread for no reason"/??

are u friggin kidding me?

[Papenbrook]

This thread needs to be locked.

[alliance]

This thread needs to be locked.

no it doesn't.... i'll just leave, too many unfair personalities screaming Ban left and right post after post ruining the thread eventually blaming me for it like always..

some of these posters remind me of baby Mario's reaction after losing yoshi

[Turo602]

some of these posters remind me of baby Mario's reaction after losing yoshi

How ironic, that's what you sounded and continue to sound like when you talk about the 2k3 series. Were you molested while watching that show or what? Otherwise, your bashing comes off like you're looking to stir up trouble with your complete butthurt over the show like it attacked you which is childish. It's one thing to dislike something and it's another to whine about it like you do.

[tmntpower1988]

f*ck the dreaded 2k3 series, im so happy that nick isn't acknowledging that pathetic attempt as a series hell they even RELIED on the older [better] more Popular cartoon from the 80's..

The 80s show better than the 4kids series? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: You're crazy man.

I believe it was. And it is kinda crappy that Nick are ignoring the 2K3 series, given the fact that it had the best storylines and fight scenes. Part of me wishes he hasn't sold the franchise to Nick, then we might have actually got a complete DVD set of the 2K3 series after Turtles Forever came out.

I agree 4kids definately had the best plots and fights of the 3 series.

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/90990/slap-o.gif

[THGhost]

I'm not even gonna bother reading alliance's posts, especially if he's supposedly bashing the 2K3 series. :lol:

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

what 2k3 did was so so mean in turtles forever, so for all u upset 4kids fans I say this is what u call kharma, u 2k3 fans in particular have nothing to do with it perhaps u don't even deserve it, but for someone like me whos passionate about my 80s turtles having to deal with 2k3 fans pretending to not notice the OBVIOUS bashing of the OT its nice to see 2k3 fans squirm even just alil bit.

Oh, I noticed the bashing. The thing is, it only happaned once(when the OT Turtles cried into the arms of 2k3 Raph). The thing is, that movie was 2009. 5 years ago. Get over it already.

[ZariusTwo]

Yeah, the bashing was'nt too severe, I thought there was more fond lip-service to the era than anything else, and there were periods where they proved entertaining and useful (and Splinter got a nice moment), I also did try to explain the more ackward moments away in one of my 80's toon fanfics and I had a lot of fun with that, so I thank the movie for the inspiration for that:D

PS: The 80s toon is better than 4Kids....:P (runs away)

[Leo656]

:lol: I can't f***ing believe that kid still hangs out around here. :lol: What a trip. They'll let just anybody in here these days.

[Metalwolf]

Dude, it's a single movie. There is no need for this kind of disproportionate anger. Just because there was a bias for the 2k3 turtles in the writing doesn't mean the writers were out to attack you personally.

But you're also wrong anyway, since while 2k3 has gone ignored, Turtles Forever hasn't.They never did try to attack me personally (they wouldn't even know I exist ;) ) I also never cared for the meta wanking.

And were did they reference Turtles Forever? If you are talking about Wormquake, they never called the 80's realm a universe, which would have been the perfect time to reference it.

Conversely, why all the love for this singular movie? It isn't even the best one, but yet people gush over it.

[Tora]

I think a cross over movie where both the 2014 Turtles and 1987 go to each others dimensions. When they jump dimensions they change animation styles to make sense for the one that they are in.

87 Turtles in CGI would be cool to see and so would the Nick Turtles in old style animation.

[Netkeeper]

And were did they reference Turtles Forever? If you are talking about Wormquake, they never called the 80's realm a universe, which would have been the perfect time to reference it.
??? You act like I care about 2k12

When I said "it doesn't get ignored" I meant "its DVDs aren't out of print" like 2k3's are. People still actually act like Turtles Forever exists, unlike how they're rudely pretending 2k3 never even happened. That's what I meant and I thought what you meant too?

[ssjup81]

I guess I stand corrected on my assumptions regarding 2k3 and Turtles Forever.....but I still wonder if it is a karma thing.

That aside, maybe sometime down the road, Nickelodeon will re-release the 2k3 episodes. It'd seem like a missed opportunity otherwise. The 2k3 series did have its fans and had to have done decently for it to have lasted as long as it did. I didn't even realize the 2k3 series was around or so long.

[Konchadunga]

I think more than karma, it might be an issue of the 2003 show getting lost in Mirage's shadow. Remember that Ciro Nieli started as a Mirage fan, meaning he had a full awareness of what the important Mirage stories were like in their original, unkiddified form. He might see a reason to revive some 2003-original characters in the future, but they don't necessarily have a high priority.

What is more important, I think, is the show continuing the 2003 series' take on existing characters. The Turtles are mostly the same, save for Don getting a horny overhaul, Leatherhead is mostly the same, and though the Foot are different, at least they aren't incompetent in the way they were in Fred Wolf, or Westernized the way they were in PD.

[Munk]

Can't have enough Turtles, I'd love any animated feature that came out.

[Refractive Reflections]

u mean like people bashing the movie left and right but that's ok since its the in thing to do?

but ofcourse they did it with class unlike me :trolleye:


Oh alliance, you so funny sometimes.:P

But yeah, the sentiment is no different if people were ranting about the 2014 movie, the Nick series, the Next Mutation, or even some other topic in the General Discussion forums. I think it's the extreme directed language and lack of grammar in your posts that catches people's radar and gives you more attention. ...But the amplitude of emotion is more or less the same all over these forums, except in a few areas (i.e. Fan Works, Introductions).

[THGhost]

extreme directed language and lack of grammar in your posts that catches people's radar and gives you more attention.

Unfortunately this sort of behaviour seems to be spreading like wildfire on these forums these days.

[Konchadunga]

Many Ninja Turtles fans are like Israelis and Palestinians; always together, always ready to fire on each other in a moment's notice, and always extremely annoying to sane people.

[Hannurdock]

I loved Turtles Forever. I was so inspired I wrote a lengthy fanfic based on it. I love the idea of other dimensions, so this was beautifully done for me. I wish they had the original 80's turtles a little more in character, but generally, I couldn't ask for more.

Yes, I would definitely watch that series if they ever did it. I don't think they should hold back though. Put every version in. ;)

[turtle1237]

I loved the 80's cartoon, and yes the turtles forever DID insult the OT. It was not just a jab here or there, hell the Nick cartoon did poke a jab at the OT turtle with the style of the 1980's, I can live with that. But the OT show was treated with respect.

What I cant take is that the OT were cowards that run and cry every time a battle happens, All 4 turtles making one liners, when Raph and Mickey were the ones doing it in the OT. Leo and Don were pretty serious for the most part. The endless noggies, that never happen ONCE in the series ete. I can go on and on.

Saying that, I don't think the 2003 fans should suffer, If I was in charge, I would gladly put out a complete series set of the cartoon, I may hate Turtles Forever, but I didn't hate the 2003 series. OT fans got the Party Wagon set. Perhaps they can put out something like that Hummer thing they drive?

[RaphaelinSTL]

f*ck the dreaded 2k3 series, im so happy that nick isn't acknowledging that pathetic attempt as a series hell they even RELIED on the older [better] more Popular cartoon from the 80's..

https://fireden.net/4chan/images.4chan.org//vg/src/1398903057412.jpg

[Mutant Ninja Anole]

I'm assuming that Nick isn't acknowledging the 2k3 series because they don't have the rights to something made for 4kids. Not a business expert but I'm just assuming you know, that they wouldn't want to fill a competitor's coffers.