Worst Timothy Episode

[Papenbrook]

Which episode is the worst episode with Timothy as one of the main characters?

[Shark_Blade]

Every single one with him in it.

He's only better as Mutagen Man.

[NinjaPug]

Both episodes with Timothy/Pulverizer in them were terrible solely because of his annoying qualities. I think he's the worst character in this universe so far.

The MM episode was okay. I honestly don't care if we don't get any resolution to his storyline. I hope we never see him again.

[ssjup81]

Both episodes with Timothy/Pulverizer in them were terrible solely because of his annoying qualities. I think he's the worst character in this universe so far.But I figured he was purposely written that way. I found him annoying too, but at least he meant well.

[IndigoErth]

The episodes judged only against themselves and not on any basis of them being bad episodes... Imo, the last one prob.

Annoying character in either form, but as human just an eye roll sort of annoying. Once he went ballistic as Mutagen Man and decided April should be his friend and go all crazy hunting her and suddenly he's against the Turtles... just euthanize him.

If we're just talking pre-mutation, if I have to choose then prefer the first at least for the Turtles dealing with finding they've got some kind of fanboy to deal with.

[ObiWanFan4life]

All of them. Also, while everyone was shocked by his mutation, I can freely admit that I laughed my ass off in that scene.

[Autbot_Benz]

Timothy was just as annoying as Zach in the 80's cartoon who joined the turtles.

[Mukouno]

To be honest I wouldn't say any of these episodes were really bad. Timothy was simply written as an obnoxious fanboy, I think we were supposed to dislike him.

Aside from this character I really enjoyed these episodes. "The Pulverizer" gave us the Shellraiser, Xever finally being useful again, it showed us Donnie in a context without April (and that doesn't go without saying!) and gave him in a nice responsibilty and burden in the form of Timothy. And that scene with a poisoned Raph still cracks me up every time! :lol:

"Pulverizer Returns!" would probably be my least favorite, I did like the part with them switching weapons and having to adapt to something new but I admit Timothy really dragged down the mood. He was becoming way too dumb, even for my taste. Hell, Ralph Wiggum would have been ashamed! And I didn't feel sorry for him at all when he mutated. The only good things were the weapons, The Shredder and the Kraang working together and Donnie finally being inspired to create Retromutagen.

The episode with Mutagen Man was okay, I actually quite enjoyed it. Mainly for Donnie's conflict and Timothy getting what he deserved. This ep really marked the moment where he became my least favorite character in this show. Blaming the turtles for his mutation? I admit, it felt pretty good when he was frozen at the end.

So all in all, even if you dislike the character like me, you can still enjoy them simply by taking pleasure in Timothy's pain. :lol:

[victory_angel]

I feel there is an ulterior purpose with Timothy. The Pulverizer we have Donnie taking on a teaching role and it isn't that he's a bad teacher it's more like the Pulverizer is a bad student.

The Turtles have been trained their whole lives as ninja, and in their first time on the surface they make the choice to use their skills to defend innocent people from harm. They aren't heroes for fame or glory, they are heroes because they feel it is the right thing to do.

Being a hero is not just training to make yourself faster, stronger, and better then others. Its also being in the right place at the right moment and deciding to make a difference. Such as the people who rushed into help others during disasters such as the Boston Marathon bombing a couple of years ago. The people who rushed in to help the wounded were considered heroes.

The Pulverizer on the other hand wants to be a hero because he thinks its cool, but he also wants the glory that comes with it. As he said "I don't have time for the basics, I want to be a hero now. Show me the good stuff."

I think Donnie did recognize that while Timmy was an idiot, he truly did want to make a difference. So when the Pulverizer is mutated I was left the impression that something in Donnie may have shifted.

[pennydreadful]

I really don't get the hate for Timothy. Yes, he's flawed, but I don't think he's that bad.

[Aaronardo]

Of 3 episodes? k den...
I thought he was a terrible character until when he got mutated, when I found out that was what was to happen the whole time, he didn't really seem that bad. You honestly feel sympathy for him, which is why he is a flawed, yet well-written character.

[ssjup81]

I really don't get the hate for Timothy. Yes, he's flawed, but I don't think he's that bad.That's how I felt about him. Besides, he was purposely written to be that way.

[The Turtle Terminator]

I really don't get the hate for Timothy. Yes, he's flawed, but I don't think he's that bad.

This is my feeling on Timothy. My least favourite episode is Mutagen Man Unleashed.

[Mr Null]

All of them. I am so glad they didn't given him a bigger role this season like they threatened us with! haha.. :P

Season 2 overall is such a vast improvement over season 1. Just a tighter, more exciting experience. And a lot of really good new editions to the cast (Casey, Slash, Tiger Claw and Rahzar).

[ssjup81]

I really feel they should conclude his story in some way. I hope the retromutagen works for him and that he learns a lesson from it.

[Lou 500]

"The Pulverizer Returns" was extremely dull for me. My attention actually waned from the screen a couple of times.

[snake]

Pulverizer Returns until he becomes Mutagen Man.

[Midnight Mutant]

I love Timothy! He made me laugh with everything he did! The way he irritated the sh!t out of everyone was amazingly hilarious!
It really shows how much Donnie loves his brothers enough to put up with their bullsh!t (especially Mikey's ) because you see how short his fuse is with Tim. xD

I was so heartbroken when he became M.Man. Mostly because his dialog was extremely dumbed down and I liked his blinded excitable ambition when he was Tim.
I think Mutagen man unleashed was my least favorite (Tho, he wasn't really Timothy so I don't know if that counts). Pulverizer returns wasn't as strong as pulverizer, but, I still liked both episodes a lot.

We were suppose to feel the same annoyance as the turtles feel around him and I think the show succeeded, which means he was a spot on character.

[Metalwolf]

I never really felt much annoyance with Timothy, I actually kind of liked him. He sort of felt like an everyman character to me. However, I truly don't like Mutagen Man. He's just really gross and I'd love it if Timothy got demutated and got a chance to learn to be a real hero. Keeping him frozen without using the next batch of retromutagen on him would just seem cruel.

[pennydreadful]

Agreed - I want to see him de-mutate and become his own kind of hero.

[Shiro Kame]

The Pulverizor; he screwed up so badly that thanks to him, the Power Cell got lost to the Kraang, resulting in the Kraang Invasion being able to occur and the turtles losing LH.

[erik]

Timothy IS an idiot -- but, when he first showed up, I immediately wanted to know someone was showing up at Comic Con, dressed in that outfit. He's dumb, and annoying -- but at least he's mellowed since becoming the Mutagen Man. (or at least become more interesting)

BTW -- Anyone remember the old show, featuring the 5th Turtle? (featuring a stupid kid, ruining the Turtles plans by trying to join in) Was his name Timothy too?

[victory_angel]

BTW -- Anyone remember the old show, featuring the 5th Turtle? (featuring a stupid kid, ruining the Turtles plans by trying to join in) Was his name Timothy too?

His name was Zack.

[ssjup81]

Timothy IS an idiot -- but, when he first showed up, I immediately wanted to know someone was showing up at Comic Con, dressed in that outfit. He's dumb, and annoying -- but at least he's mellowed since becoming the Mutagen Man. (or at least become more interesting)

BTW -- Anyone remember the old show, featuring the 5th Turtle? (featuring a stupid kid, ruining the Turtles plans by trying to join in) Was his name Timothy too?I will always feel like I'm in the minority. I never found Zack annoying I guess because he wasn't around much and actually helped the turtles. I also like how he found the lair using skill as opposed to just stumbling upon it, which Splinter, iirc, praised him for and scolded Raph and Donny...I think it was. Being a fan as a kid, I liked Zack. It was nice that they had another human ally and if I recall he was the type willing to learn, unlike Timothy. The turtles never found him annoying like Timothy.

[victory_angel]

I will always feel like I'm in the minority. I never found Zack annoying I guess because he wasn't around much and actually helped the turtles. I also like how he found the lair using skill as opposed to just stumbling upon it, which Splinter, iirc, praised him for and scolded Raph and Donny...I think it was. Being a fan as a kid, I liked Zack. It was nice that they had another human ally and if I recall he was the type willing to learn, unlike Timothy. The turtles never found him annoying like Timothy.

Timothy was into being a hero because he thought it was cool.

Donnie warns him being a hero isn't something you do over night. As he said it, "You can't stick a sword under your pillow and suddenly wake up a Samurai." If you feel called to be a hero you have to work towards it and dedicate yourself to the role with no thought as to what you might gain from it.

Next Timothy wants to be a Ninja

This is where we get hints that Donnie accepting that he is responsible for Timothy. Since he told Timmy he would no longer be his teacher, and Timmy had said he's continue training which lead him to the Bradford Dojo which we learn are secret Foot Training centers. He knows that if the Foot haven't suspected that Timmy knows the Turtles already, they would some how realize he's familiar with the Turtles which would put not only their lives but his in considerable danger.

Ironicly, even if Donnie had agreed to continued training him, Timmy may have caught on that Donnie was not going to teach him what he wanted to learn and turned to the Bradford Dojo anyway.

But in Timmy's case he's hears Donnie's warnings about the Foot Clan and interprets them as 'Donnie is afraid I'll be better then him because I'm with the Foot Clan.' When Donnie was telling him "Get out of the Foot right now."


Then when the foot is testing the mutagen, he volunteers because he believes he'd have cool super powers instantly. Even though Donnie is telling him "The mutagen is unpredictable." It's possible Donnie may have vague memories of the experience of mutation himself, or he's been around long enough to know being Mutated doesn't guarantee happiness. Again Timmy misinterpreted it as "Donnie is worried I'll be cooler and better then he is. That's why he's trying to stop me." And of course when the mutation happens and he sees himself for the first time, he is horrified by what he's become and blames the Turtles for his mutation.

In Mutagen Man Unleashed it hinted Timmy probably some hinted jealousy. In his eyes he sees Donnie getting the best of everything, he has a better mutation, better skills, a cute girl who he hangs out with. Then of course after Mutation Situation, Donnie was the one telling him that April is mad at them and it's their fault. Timmy of course listens to that and thinks "The Turtles didn't tell me I'd become this freak, and this April girl lost someone she cared about because of the Turtles. Then she'll have to love me because we both have something in common."

He dislikes the Turtles or at least Leo, Mikey, and Raph. Donnie was cool because he was at least caring enough to talk to him and take care of him. But even he felt Donnie should also suffer for betraying him.

[saber16]

Then when the foot is testing the mutagen, he volunteers because he believes he'd have cool super powers instantly. Even though Donnie is telling him "The mutagen is unpredictable." It's possible Donnie may have vague memories of the experience of mutation himself, or he's been around long enough to know being Mutated doesn't guarantee happiness. Again Timmy misinterpreted it as "Donnie is worried I'll be cooler and better then he is. That's why he's trying to stop me." And of course when the mutation happens and he sees himself for the first time, he is horrified by what he's become and blames the Turtles for his mutation.

In Mutagen Man Unleashed it hinted Timmy probably some hinted jealousy. In his eyes he sees Donnie getting the best of everything, he has a better mutation, better skills, a cute girl who he hangs out with. Then of course after Mutation Situation, Donnie was the one telling him that April is mad at them and it's their fault. Timmy of course listens to that and thinks "The Turtles didn't tell me I'd become this freak, and this April girl lost someone she cared about because of the Turtles. Then she'll have to love me because we both have something in common."


That's does seem like the obvious route they were going to go, though the show hasn't given us solid evidence to confirm this.

When he was with the foot, Timothy never showed any form of anger, resentment or even annoyance when Donatello told him to leave the foot clan and when he stopped Timothy from being mutated.

When he becomes a mutant, he does attack the turtles, but I'm guessing it's from the effects of the mutagen messing with his mind and the shock of having the weapons hurled through him. If he was angry with the turtles over what happened to him, wouldn't he be more... out of control after being crammed in that jar?

Once he regains speech and a new body as Mutagen Man, he fights the Turtles because they got in the way of him and April. From what I can tell, he has yet to blame them for his mutation. While the majority might say it's because of how unintelligent he's become, he is aware of what happened to himself and it's quite possible he knows it's his fault... Something I really hope they go with in the show.


And to add to what will become of him once the final rolls around, I liked your idea of him getting thawed out during the lair invasion and running off, though my money is on the Kraang taking him..
They've been collecting mutants, they may feel entitled to taking back their property (the jar housing Timothy's body), and... ok, this is one hell of a stretch, but going by the back of packaging on the action figure, it says he's on team Kraang.
There's also concept art of Mutagen Man with a modified suit that allows mutagen canisters to placed on it, acting like batteries. Shredder despised Tim before, and something tells me he wouldn't even think of re-recruiting an acid dripping blob in a jar that has zero fighting knowledge who won't obey his orders unless mutagen or April is part of the deal- the first being mandatory to keep him going. Way to much effort.

The Kraang on the other hand... They have the mutagen, there's plenty of them to keep an eye on him and to keep him running, and both will terminate the Turtles to get to April O'Neil.

[victory_angel]

That's does seem like the obvious route they were going to go, though the show hasn't given us solid evidence to confirm this.

When he was with the foot, Timothy never showed any form of anger, resentment or even annoyance when Donatello told him to leave the foot clan and when he stopped Timothy from being mutated.

When he becomes a mutant, he does attack the turtles, but I'm guessing it's from the effects of the mutagen messing with his mind and the shock of having the weapons hurled through him. If he was angry with the turtles over what happened to him, wouldn't he be more... out of control after being crammed in that jar?

Once he regains speech and a new body as Mutagen Man, he fights the Turtles because they got in the way of him and April. From what I can tell, he has yet to blame them for his mutation. While the majority might say it's because of how unintelligent he's become, he is aware of what happened to himself and it's quite possible he knows it's his fault... Something I really hope they go with in the show.


And to add to what will become of him once the final rolls around, I liked your idea of him getting thawed out during the lair invasion and running off, though my money is on the Kraang taking him..
They've been collecting mutants, they may feel entitled to taking back their property (the jar housing Timothy's body), and... ok, this is one hell of a stretch, but going by the back of packaging on the action figure, it says he's on team Kraang.
There's also concept art of Mutagen Man with a modified suit that allows mutagen canisters to placed on it, acting like batteries. Shredder despised Tim before, and something tells me he wouldn't even think of re-recruiting an acid dripping blob in a jar that has zero fighting knowledge who won't obey his orders unless mutagen or April is part of the deal- the first being mandatory to keep him going. Way to much effort.

The Kraang on the other hand... They have the mutagen, there's plenty of them to keep an eye on him and to keep him running, and both will terminate the Turtles to get to April O'Neil.

In Pulverizer returns, when Donnie tells him to get out the of the Foot. He looks down at his mask before looking up and is like "Right, I'll get out of the Foot." *wink, wink*

And when Donnie was trying to prevent him from getting mutated, he warned him several times that getting mutated was a bad idea and it would not give him the results he wanted. The guy still mutates himself anyway and walks around blindly complaining that that the mutagen burns and plaintively asking "Is it normally like this?"

Then when he transforms he's feral minded and confused about where he is. But Donnie is able to get through to him for a moment, and that's when Timothy looks at his reflection and is not happy about what he has become. That's when he snarls and attacks.

And in Mutagen Man unleashed when Donnie stops Leo from attacking Mutagen Man, and says "He was only trying to get April back for us."
Timothy says "No April not Turtle friend, April my friend....Turtles hurt April...hurt me." When he says hurt me he holds up the arm that had the hand Leo had severed off as emphasis. But it was also showing he regarded the fact they didn't tell him he would become that as hurting him. Even though ironicly Donnie did warn him by saying the results were unpredictable.

[turtle1237]

Timothy was just as annoying as Zach in the 80's cartoon who joined the turtles.

Take that back, if giving the choice, I hang out with Zach all day than a min with Timothy.

Zach may not be the best kid in TMNT worlds, but he is ten times better than Timothy.

[pennydreadful]

I don't hate Timothy... but I don't think I could hack hanging out with him for a day either.

[Ninturtle]

All of them. I am so glad they didn't given him a bigger role this season like they threatened us with! haha.. :P

Season 2 overall is such a vast improvement over season 1. Just a tighter, more exciting experience. And a lot of really good new editions to the cast (Casey, Slash, Tiger Claw and Rahzar).

I beg to differ , the humor is not as funny as season 1 in season 1 you laughed because od the character interaction which is still in season 2 but not as frequent most jokes don't even make me laugh .The balance between comedy and action is what I love about season 1 when one of them is done poorly the show feels incomplete . The episodes without comedy are the only great ones because most jokes really fall flat .