Sequel Announced for June 3rd 2016

[Vicky82]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=105756

Variety reports that following its huge opening in North America this weekend, Paramount Pictures are celebrating the occasion with the announcement of a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sequel. It will be released on June 3rd, 2016, and while there's currently no word on whether director Jonathan Liebesman will return, Michael Bay is set to return as producer and screenwriters Josh Appelbaum and André Nemec are set to write.

[Radical Raph]

Well that's depressing.

[Rooish]

So as fans we were able to exercise some influence getting a Japanese Shredder and a non alien origin. For the sequel, let's push for some character development, a Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki link, and maybe Casey Jones.

[Tora]

Great News!

I hope that they can make up for some of their mistakes with this sequel and we get Bebop and Rocksteady!

[bmxbandit]

that was fast!

[JTH]

...a Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki link, and maybe Casey Jones.
You may have to explain to Mr. Bay who those characters are.

[deadsy333]

If this holds up, then I am beyond pumped right now!

[Shark_Blade]

Thank you God!!! Everyone celebrate!!

I hope Pete Ploszek gets to voice Leo, really was unjust to have him mocap only. I hope he's still interested too.

[Zulithe]

Let the hype begin?

[drewizzle88]

I'm happy to hear that, glad the current one is off to a good start, far from perfect but it was enjoyable to watch.

[pdizzle]

hahaha!!!!!!! YES!!!!so pumped right now:D

[RAPHAEL#1fan]

Yes! That's all I wanted after (to me) seeing a Great movie!

[Xiewin]

Oh god no....

[RAPHAEL#1fan]

Thank you God!!! Everyone celebrate!!

I hope Pete Ploszek gets to voice Leo, really was unjust to have him mocap only. I hope he's still interested too.

I don't want to start a war, or off subject but Knox was excellent Leo any body else think he kinda sounds like matthew mcconaughey.

[Vicky82]

I went to look up what other movies are out in June 2016

so far

June 3rd
Sausage Party
TMNT

June 10th
Uncharted

June 17th
Finding Dory
How to Train your Dragon 3
(I assume 1 of these movies will change date)

June 24th
The Mummy

I Just hope it's June 3rd for the UK too.

[Bry]

Oof. Well, it was pretty much inevitable at this point. You can count me out, but... whatever. Is what it is.

Worth noting: this will be coming out the week after X-Men: Apocalypse and three weeks after Captain America 3. And a good few sure-to-be-huge kids' movies are gonna follow it within a few weeks. So it may have a lot more competition than the first one.

[JTH]

Let the hype begin?
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/puking_brian.gif

[pdizzle]

Oof. Well, it was pretty much inevitable at this point. You can count me out, but... whatever. Is what it is.

Worth noting: this will be coming out the week after X-Men: Apocalypse and three weeks after Captain America 3. And a good few sure-to-be-huge kids' movies are gonna follow it within a few weeks. So it may have a lot more competition than the first one.

93.7 mil in august against all odds. I think it will hold its own:D

[Vicky82]

I think June 3rd might be a mistake because guess what movie is out on May 27th in the US.

X-Men: Apocalypse

[Nameless]

this just made my day...

[MrTMNT2012]

Can't wait!

Loved the first one, hoping for more Turtles in the sequel cause they were perfect. :D

[Tazi]

great, so maybe next time we gonna see robot casey jones or all four turtles in glasses.

(sarcasm)

[pdizzle]

:lol::lol:
let the hate begin.....

[Tazi]

tho, there's still a chance for they using an other guy as a character designer...


maybe if they debut Krang, he won't be an alien too... OH WAIT

[JTH]

Can't wait!

Loved the first one, hoping for more Turtles in the sequel cause they were perfect. :D
Does that mean TMNT II is already your new favorite Turtles movie?

[MrTMNT2012]

Does that mean TMNT II is already your new favorite Turtles movie?

If they focus on the Turtles more then it probably would be.

[Bob]

Haha, this is priceless, considering what this place has been like the last couple of months.

[Bry]

93.7 mil in august against all odds. I think it will hold its own:D

In its opening weekend, X-Men: Days of Future Past made $90,823,660 domestic and $172,042,661 foreign. $262,866,321 worldwide total.

GotG's worldwide opening weekend was $161.7m, for some comparison.

An earlier summer date might help TMNT2's box office, but the competition will also be more fierce.

[jenna]

This is great news. :D

So as fans we were able to exercise some influence getting a Japanese Shredder and a non alien origin. For the sequel, let's push for some character development, a Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki link, and maybe Casey Jones.

Oh, Roo. I have missed you and your lovely wisdom. :)

[Rooish]

Okay firstly, this sequel will likely be postponed in development like the first one was. Second, I don't really know how dates are chosen for film releases, but why don't they just see what else is coming out, gauge the competition, and adjust accordingly?

Also, maybe the people who hated this film can just give it a rest now. There is obviously nothing to hope for in a sequel or you, so just go back to your Nick forums or Comic forums or whatever.

[JTH]

There's still telling what the movie makes its second weekend with Expendables III coming out (Those movies didn't bring big money in US per say, but all raked big worldwide), and the fact that the fandom of the franchise was to say the least...divided.

[The Stryker]

Fd_O-WHnQVc

:)

[NinjaPug]

Same writers and producers? Pass.

I f'n hate Hollywood.

[Vicky82]

Okay firstly, this sequel will likely be postponed in development like the first one was. Second, I don't really know how dates are chosen for film releases, but why don't they just see what else is coming out, gauge the competition, and adjust accordingly?

Also, maybe the people who hated this film can just give it a rest now. There is obviously nothing to hope for in a sequel or you, so just go back to your Nick forums or Comic forums or whatever.

I guess they picked the date just incase someone else picks it for there movie. Looking at movies in June 2016 there are no big movies like from DC or Marvel but X-Men Apocalypse is out on May 27th.

It could be postponed but I find that when they make sequels they seem to run more smoothly due to they now know what the CGI and designs are going to be like but they probably have some minor changes.

[bloodstainedwings]

I am happy this is happening but at the same time I don't understand as this movie has not made a profit and wont do so until its made more then $250 Million at the box office. I thought movies only got sequels if they make they make the studios enough profit?.

Does anyone know why a movie needs to make twice its budget to break even? In the rest of the world to break even you only need to earn back the money you spent, not twice the amount you spent. It does not make logical sense anyone care to explain?

[JTH]

I guess they picked the date just incase someone else picks it for there movie. Looking at movies in June 2016 there are no big movies like from DC or Marvel but X-Men Apocalypse is out on May 27th.
Keep in mind, along with Cap 3, the Batman vs. Superman movie is going to fall in a spot somewhere in Summer 2016. Yet another bullet to dodge.

[Bry]

Keep in mind, along with Cap 3, the Batman vs. Superman movie is going to fall in a spot somewhere in Summer 2016. Yet another bullet to dodge.

I think it's scheduled for March right now, but if there are any delays, I think June 10th is prime real estate. Release dates get adjusted fairly regularly, so it;s way too early to assume how it'll shake out.

[Electric]

i had no doubt they wanted to make a sequel, just depended on how much money this one made. (the mutagen on shredders finger, stockman for 2 seconds, the turtlevan just being made at the end)

while i personally enjoyed this movie, i see where others are coming from. however, i honestly believe the second one will be better:

this movie obviously had multiple changes due to fan reactions, the second one i think will know what we want and has already established they arent aliens, shredder isnt white etc.

weve got their basic introductions and backstory. while the second one can dive deeper into them, we wont have to deal with first meetings and can get right to the turtles, leaving more time for the plot

really high hopes for the second one. i can definitely see casey being addedd, easily, making his backstory come from the events of the first movie. however i dont really see bebop and rocksteady, as the cannister of mutagen that fell with shredder was supposedly the only one. but i could see them going with a villain like bishop, which would be incredible to see in a movie, and have him and the government start hunting the turtles

[ctt4lfecw]

Count me the **** out.

[CyberCubed]

Petition for no noses or nostrils this time!

[ctt4lfecw]

i had no doubt they wanted to make a sequel, just depended on how much money this one made. (the mutagen on shredders finger, stockman for 2 seconds, the turtlevan just being made at the end)

while i personally enjoyed this movie, i see where others are coming from. however, i honestly believe the second one will be better:

this movie obviously had multiple changes due to fan reactions, the second one i think will know what we want and has already established they arent aliens, shredder isnt white etc.

weve got their basic introductions and backstory. while the second one can dive deeper into them, we wont have to deal with first meetings and can get right to the turtles, leaving more time for the plot



really high hopes for the second one. i can definitely see casey being addedd, easily, making his backstory come from the events of the first movie. however i dont really see bebop and rocksteady, as the cannister of mutagen that fell with shredder was supposedly the only one. but i could see them going with a villain like bishop, which would be incredible to see in a movie, and have him and the government start hunting the turtles

^
There is no snowball's chance in hell that Bay would ever watch 2003, or know what it is.

[MajorViolence]

To put a silver lining on this cloud, as much as I hate the movie, there's nothing the movie gets so terribly wrong that it eliminates any chance of a sequel learning from the mistakes of the first film and being decent. That's certainly not something that could have been said if they stuck with the Blue Door. Now, do I expect this to happen? God no, not in a million years. Still, it's worth mentioning. Never would have thought Scooby Doo 2 could be so wonderful after how awful the first movie was.

[Vicky82]

Petition for no noses or nostrils this time!

Hey Cube, this is for you.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0e05af4cce3141bc1a856f12288260dd/tumblr_inline_n9ps8nngUZ1r050x5.jpg

[NinjaPug]

Why would they bring Nemec and Applebaum back?

If they had confidence in them they wouldn't have brought Dougherty in for rewrites on the first one.

Maybe they'll get a chance in the sequel to change their origin back to being alien warriors like they originally planned.

[ranger_scout]

I'm very happy about the sequel news. I hope we get some more background stories. Plus, Bebop & Rocksteady and Casey Jones.

I think June 3rd might be a mistake because guess what movie is out on May 27th in the US.

X-Men: Apocalypse

X Men: Days of Future Past was dethroned by Maleficent one week later.

[Xiewin]

To put a silver lining on this cloud, as much as I hate the movie, there's nothing the movie gets so terribly wrong that it eliminates any chance of a sequel learning from the mistakes of the first film and being decent. That's certainly not something that could have been said if they stuck with the Blue Door. Now, do I expect this to happen? God no, not in a million years. Still, it's worth mentioning. Never would have thought Scooby Doo 2 could be so wonderful after how awful the first movie was.

Well there is a chance that the sequel might be an improvement from the first one. Look at the transition between the first and second purge movies. They obviously took in alot of criticism from that the first film faced and improved it in the sequel. A 20% to an 58% on RT is an huge difference. Im just glad that this studio listens to backlash at least. I could be wrong though.

[jenna]

weve got their basic introductions and backstory. while the second one can dive deeper into them, we wont have to deal with first meetings and can get right to the turtles, leaving more time for the plot

really high hopes for the second one. i can definitely see casey being addedd, easily, making his backstory come from the events of the first movie. however i dont really see bebop and rocksteady, as the cannister of mutagen that fell with shredder was supposedly the only one. but i could see them going with a villain like bishop, which would be incredible to see in a movie, and have him and the government start hunting the turtles

Yes please to this, Platinum Dunes.

[JTH]

X Men: Days of Future Past was dethroned by Maleficent one week later.
Maleficent made more money than X-Men: DoFP at the box office. Maybe that's why.


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2014&p=.htm

[chrisdude]

The only thing better than seeing the $65 million weekend total (Because, apparently, by Sunday morning, estimates are treated as fact.) was seen this moments later.

And there's really no point in analyzing the date and competition. They are all tentative, this far out.

[ranger_scout]

Maleficent made more money than X-Men: DoFP at the box office. Maybe that's why.


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2014&p=.htm

Yes, it did. That film really appealed to both families and females.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Hey Cube, this is for you.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0e05af4cce3141bc1a856f12288260dd/tumblr_inline_n9ps8nngUZ1r050x5.jpg

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Anyway, don't know how i feel about this. This is to do with me not seeing the film yet.

[Anton Chigurh]

I've stated my opinions on this movie I liked it but it was poorly written and executed. I was hoping for a sequel because if there wasn't going to be one made there would not have been another live movie in the next 30 years.

I honesly believe the 2nd will be a huge improvement, I wish they would go with another director. I would rather Bay take it over then liebithsmen(sp?).

[zodiac brave]

sweet!

if they do learn from their mistakes, it could be good. whether that'll happen or not, we'll have to wait n see...but this one was fun, if not all it coulda been, and im alright with another fun ride in a couple years.

[Anton Chigurh]

believe it or not but this is HUGE news for the franchise. Despite anybodies beliefs on here.

[Hawkeye]

I am happy this is happening but at the same time I don't understand as this movie has not made a profit and wont do so until its made more then $250 Million at the box office. I thought movies only got sequels if they make they make the studios enough profit?.

Does anyone know why a movie needs to make twice its budget to break even? In the rest of the world to break even you only need to earn back the money you spent, not twice the amount you spent. It does not make logical sense anyone care to explain?
Domestically, theatres keep about 40% of the profits. Internationally, they generally keep about 55%. I could be slightly off on the numbers, but not too much.

They have to make about double their budget because the theatres need to make money too. Although people overdo it because Turtles will make a huge profit on toys, 3D glasses, and clothing. Add in the sale of each "drive" to each theatre and it's probably profitable for the company before doubling the budget.

Turtles sequel is announced because $125M on opening weekend (with a lot of markets not even opened yet) is huge numbers. It should make back it's budget by the end of next weekend. Anything after that will be profit.

I'd expect this movie to hit $350M-$450M, approximately. That's a profit of $50M-$100M, without including the money they'll make from merch.

[MajorViolence]

Let's get Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor on this bitch. If it's going to be stupid and awful, can it at least be the awesome kind of stupid and awful?

[ranger_scout]

Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass, the sequel to the Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, is also opening on May 27, 2016. So, that might take away some of the family audiences from the TMNT sequel, but we'll see what happens.

[MajorViolence]

Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass, the sequel to the Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, is also opening on May 27, 2016. So, that might take away some of the family audiences from TMNT sequel, but we'll see what happens.

http://i.imgur.com/Di9Nym5.jpg

[Vicky82]

Alice in Wonderland: Through the Looking Glass, the sequel to the Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland, is also opening on May 27, 2016. So, that might take away some of the family audiences from TMNT sequel, but we'll see what happens.

I think they will change the date as it is out on the same day as X-Men. Don't forget this is under 2 year time so anything can change.

On June 17th it says Finding Dory and How to Train your Dragon 3 are out on the same day, I can see that changing.

[Autbot_Benz]

awesome Can't wait to see how PD does Bebop & Rocksteady. I wish they would also bring Krang in as well.

[ZariusTwo]

Thank you God!!!

I think this is proof there is no God.:P

[MajorViolence]

Krang will be a talking testicle in a giant dick ship. Bebop and Rocksteady will be two German bodybuilders who wear gimp masks made to resemble a rhino and a warthog, and both will possess the power to fart explosions.

[Warhorse]

I am happy this is happening but at the same time I don't understand as this movie has not made a profit and wont do so until its made more then $250 Million at the box office. I thought movies only got sequels if they make they make the studios enough profit?.

Does anyone know why a movie needs to make twice its budget to break even? In the rest of the world to break even you only need to earn back the money you spent, not twice the amount you spent. It does not make logical sense anyone care to explain?

That's because the studio isn't getting all of that money.
This is how it usually breaks down.
1st two weeks, the studios will get roughly 80 to 90 percent of the BO, the rest goes to the theaters who are playing it. The next week, the percentage drops some more, 70% to 80% goes to the studios in it's 3rd week, the rest goes to the theaters. The cycle will continue until about the first month in, then the split is usually even. Now, the reason why domestic markets are more important than the foreign markets, is because OS, the percentage of what the studios get back is a hell of a lot less. In China, as much money as Transformers makes there, they will only get back 20% of the gross, the Chinese government keeps the rest. This is why often, you see movies perform bad at the domestic front, but blow up OS, enough to cover it's production costs and then some, it still won't get greenlit for a sequel. But, that's why, the studios aren't seeing that money unless it's getting into the 700 to 800 WW scenario.


And then, there is also this to consider, like any big budget project, most of it is financed, so, not only does the studio have to pay back the loans, they also have to pay back the interest on the loans. And there is also the possibility that several of the key players, like producers, directors, the main actors, script writers, will also get a cut in something known as royalties.

This sequel talk, I will take with a grain of salt. Just look at the past folks. Weren't we in the same boat back in 2007 when that movie came out number one at the BO? I swore Munroe was claiming, sequel time, and it never got off the ground, despite a poster for it and everything. Heck, look at this year's Amazing Spider-Man, they had all of these plans with spin offs and whatnot, but despite the movie still being a success, it underperformed in the long run (no legs) so it looks like the studio execs are panicking like crazy over at Sony due to their initial plans might be squashed.

Petition for no noses or nostrils this time!

It wasn't so much the nostrils, but the protruding noses on Raph and Mikey that were awful. If they rounded them more like Donny's and Leo's, then it wouldn't look so bad. But right now, Raph's looked shiny and gross, like he had boogies coming out.

[TurtleTitan97]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=105756




http://img.pandawhale.com/post-31776-Liar-Liar-laughing-gif-Jim-Car-4PHD.gif

[pdizzle]

awesome Can't wait to see how PD does Bebop & Rocksteady. I wish they would also bring Krang in as well.

They never really showed what happened to eric sacks so I think it would be cool to show him getting up from where he was left in the first one to reveal he is infact, krang now needing a body, or an utrom. This would bring the plot hole of the first movie to rest where once theysaid the ooz was from alien orgin then later stating they made it for a cure type thing. Then it could show him along with baxter creating bebop and rocksteady while an accident happens and causes baxter to turn into the fly for the end reveal and final battle but having b&r through the rest of the film with shredder..:D just a thought.....

[Zulithe]

I wonder how Ciro feels about this.

I remember he made a post on facebook around the time the 2014 movie designs hit the internet and it was not positive. Dunno if he ever ended up deleting it or not.

[pdizzle]

That's because the studio isn't getting all of that money.
This is how it usually breaks down.
1st two weeks, the studios will get roughly 80 to 90 percent of the BO, the rest goes to the theaters who are playing it. The next week, the percentage drops some more, 70% to 80% goes to the studios in it's 3rd week, the rest goes to the theaters. The cycle will continue until about the first month in, then the split is usually even. Now, the reason why domestic markets are more important than the foreign markets, is because OS, the percentage of what the studios get back is a hell of a lot less. In China, as much money as Transformers makes there, they will only get back 20% of the gross, the Chinese government keeps the rest. This is why often, you see movies perform bad at the domestic front, but blow up OS, enough to cover it's production costs and then some, it still won't get greenlit for a sequel. But, that's why, the studios aren't seeing that money unless it's getting into the 700 to 800 WW scenario.


And then, there is also this to consider, like any big budget project, most of it is financed, so, not only does the studio have to pay back the loans, they also have to pay back the interest on the loans. And there is also the possibility that several of the key players, like producers, directors, the main actors, script writers, will also get a cut in something known as royalties.

This sequel talk, I will take with a grain of salt. Just look at the past folks. Weren't we in the same boat back in 2007 when that movie came out number one at the BO? I swore Munroe was claiming, sequel time, and it never got off the ground, despite a poster for it and everything. Heck, look at this year's Amazing Spider-Man, they had all of these plans with spin offs and whatnot, but despite the movie still being a success, it underperformed in the long run (no legs) so it looks like the studio execs are panicking like crazy over at Sony due to their initial plans might be squashed.



It wasn't so much the nostrils, but the protruding noses on Raph and Mikey that were awful. If they rounded them more like Donny's and Leo's, then it wouldn't look so bad. But right now, Raph's looked shiny and gross, like he had boogies coming out.

Wait....what poster?

[MajorViolence]

Wait....what poster?

I don't have it saved, but yeah, TMNT's sequel had a poster and everything.

[TurtleTitan97]

Wait....what poster?

I don't have it saved, but yeah, TMNT's sequel had a poster and everything.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/TMNT2.jpg

[alliance]

congrats to a new sequel!! I would love to see Usagi in it....

[Puddinpop]

And looky look.. the same loser's already trying to kick up the odds. From the second it's announced the failure chants begin :lol:

WHATEVER!!!

http://images.rapgenius.com/3b0a90bdc7d0ed54574a9086d04492c2.500x314x16.gif

[RedRocBoy]

So happy to hear this. Really enjoyed the movie so glad people enjoyed it. Hope they make it longer, make April a stronger character and addsome more depth to the rest of the characters. And add Bebop,Rocksteady and Casey. Foot Ninjas and more insight on Shredder. Really happy this is happening. RIP TMNT 2014 HATERS!!!!:tgrin::tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:

[pdizzle]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/TMNT2.jpg

Yeah ive seen this somewhere....I just thought that was fan made? Would have been a cool concept tho except all the focus would have been on one character. Least it wouldnt have been leo or raph tho

[TigerClaw]

I'm glad that a sequel is happening, they just need a better writer, and not more then one.

[Bob]

When toxic Schadenfreude backfires you get the kind of genuine anger (and confusion) that's generated in this thread. Sorry, but a lot of people bought this on themselves. The sadistic corner of my mind can’t help but release a chuckle here and there. Did people genuinely think this was going to flop? Ninja Turtles is still very relevant and the fanbase is huge (and not just made up of those who post here). The brand itself still holds a lot of weight. The general audience was always going to turn up to this film.

[chrisguyver]

So as fans we were able to exercise some influence getting a Japanese Shredder and a non alien origin. For the sequel, let's push for some character development, a Hamato Yoshi/Oroku Saki link, and maybe Casey Jones.

Ya that but I want bebop and rocksteady for once

[Donatello19]

Wow, that was fast! I'm glad though, I loved the movie and can't wait for the sequel.

[CyberCubed]

The people on this forum have turned to animals because of this movie. It's like everyone is now a cannibal.

[Bob]

The people on this forum have turned to animals because of this movie. It's like everyone is now a cannibal.

Well, you should know.

[CyberCubed]

Well, you should know.

Well at least I was wary from the start. As soon as I saw those nostrils I knew all hope was lost. It was a sign.

[Sighphi]

In two years? Well, that shows how much work it goes into these movies.

This is going to be like Transformers all over again.

[AquaParade]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/TMNT2.jpg

I believe this poster was made by Imagi as a gift for Mirage Studios. It was a gesture to show how eager they were to be signed on for a sequel. Unfortunately, the studio closed down soon afterwards.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Peanut]

I'm bathing in the tears of the whiners and I feel myself getting younger! Hype!

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/TMNT2.jpg

That would've been a fun premise. Too bad the '07 movie flopped. :-(

[MajorViolence]

I believe this poster was made by Imagi as a gift for Mirage Studios. It was a gesture to show how eager they were to be signed on for a sequel. Unfortunately, the studio closed down soon afterwards.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

My memory about it is fuzzy but I think you're correct.

That would've been a fun premise. Too bad the '07 movie flopped. :-(

It didn't flop. It just didn't perform well enough for a sequel. It was still a financial success.

[TigerClaw]

Just read they are using the same writers. Well, Im sure they can improve with the sequel without, all the stuff that happened with the 1st film while they were making it.

[Puddinpop]

When toxic Schadenfreude backfires you get the kind of genuine anger (and confusion) that's generated in this thread. Sorry, but a lot of people bought this on themselves. The sadistic corner of my mind can’t help but release a chuckle here and there. Did people genuinely think this was going to flop? Ninja Turtles is still very relevant and the fanbase is huge (and not just made up of those who post here). The brand itself still holds a lot of weight. The general audience was always going to turn up to this film.

Exactly.. So many folks frequented THIS sub forum on a daily basis literally just to trash and slander this movie. Everyday it was a different reason for why this movie would fail. EVERY REASON IN THE BOOK for why this movie would fail. Every geek site.. Every article, Every comment section.. This movie and it's production stood it's ground and kept on moving forward against all odds. So many people passionate and committed to it's failure. Nothing taste better than this. NOTHING! This movie will succeed in SPITE of everyone that made it their everyday duty trying to bury it in negativity.

As a TMNT fan.. with an AWESOME Nick show.. an awesome comic, an awesome documentary and history book, and now TMNT is number 1 at the box office with a sequel announced for 2016. I am the happiest fan in the world right now. What better way to celebrate 30 years of TMNT!

Now watch the same folks start the same " This one is going to fail and here are a billion reasons" rhetoric the second the film is announced :lol: They are already starting with the same Marvel ******** all over again. Sad.

[bloodstainedwings]

That's because the studio isn't getting all of that money.
This is how it usually breaks down.
1st two weeks, the studios will get roughly 80 to 90 percent of the BO, the rest goes to the theaters who are playing it. The next week, the percentage drops some more, 70% to 80% goes to the studios in it's 3rd week, the rest goes to the theaters. The cycle will continue until about the first month in, then the split is usually even. Now, the reason why domestic markets are more important than the foreign markets, is because OS, the percentage of what the studios get back is a hell of a lot less. In China, as much money as Transformers makes there, they will only get back 20% of the gross, the Chinese government keeps the rest. This is why often, you see movies perform bad at the domestic front, but blow up OS, enough to cover it's production costs and then some, it still won't get greenlit for a sequel. But, that's why, the studios aren't seeing that money unless it's getting into the 700 to 800 WW scenario.


And then, there is also this to consider, like any big budget project, most of it is financed, so, not only does the studio have to pay back the loans, they also have to pay back the interest on the loans. And there is also the possibility that several of the key players, like producers, directors, the main actors, script writers, will also get a cut in something known as royalties.

This sequel talk, I will take with a grain of salt. Just look at the past folks. Weren't we in the same boat back in 2007 when that movie came out number one at the BO? I swore Munroe was claiming, sequel time, and it never got off the ground, despite a poster for it and everything. Heck, look at this year's Amazing Spider-Man, they had all of these plans with spin offs and whatnot, but despite the movie still being a success, it underperformed in the long run (no legs) so it looks like the studio execs are panicking like crazy over at Sony due to their initial plans might be squashed.



It wasn't so much the nostrils, but the protruding noses on Raph and Mikey that were awful. If they rounded them more like Donny's and Leo's, then it wouldn't look so bad. But right now, Raph's looked shiny and gross, like he had boogies coming out.


Damn, its no wonder Hollywood worries about the BO as much as they do. Thank You for explaining this I have learned a lot. for years I always went by if the movie made more then its budget that it made a profit, that's obviously not case, as I thought it once to be.

[massakre]

Awesome! Great news.. Next time I want a better story.. definitely Casey.. and Baxter Stockman to have a much bigger role, if not Rocksteady/Bebop or Krang/Dimension X

[METALHEAD]

Wonderful! cant wait! i love this movie and it left me wanting more!!:tgrin:

[ranger_scout]

In case no one saw it, here's what Paramount chairman and CEO Brad Grey said in Entertainment Weekly.

“To know moviegoers are embracing the Turtles with such enthusiasm is everything that we and all our filmmakers have been hoping for,” said Paramount chairman and CEO Brad Grey in a statement. “We are thrilled with this weekend’s result, the enduring power of this franchise, and the opportunity to make another one.”

“Launching a new take on the Turtles into the feature film world was a daunting task,” added Adam Goodman, president of Paramount’s Film Group, “because as fans of them ourselves, we felt a great responsibility to ensure audiences were going to experience everything they loved about the Turtles, while also getting to see them brought to life in a way they had never been seen before. The result exceeded our high expectations and the response to the film is beyond great, making it all the more fun to get started on the continuation of their story.”

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/08/10/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-sequel/

[NinjaPug]

I bet they cut the production budget down to $100 million or less.

PD knows you'll still see the movie no matter what so they'll keep cutting corners and shelling out crap until people stop allowing them to do so.

[bloodstainedwings]

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff104/robertwolf/TMNT2.jpg


This looks awesome!!!

[MajorViolence]

I bet they cut the production budget down to $100 million or less.

PD knows you'll still see the movie no matter what so they'll keep cutting corners and shelling out crap until people stop allowing them to do so.

Considering how much money was probably wasted by the constant rewrites, reshoots, and delays, they could probably do that and still wind up with a film that looks like it had a much bigger budget.

[NinjaPug]

Devin over at Baddass Digest always makes me laugh:

“@devincf: TMNT 2: Even We Can't Believe You Came To See This Crap”

“@devincf: TMNT 2: A Fool And His Money”

“@devincf: In TMNT 2 the Triceratons will be guys in Transformer armor with horns on their heads.”

[METALHEAD]

Well at least I was wary from the start. As soon as I saw those nostrils I knew all hope was lost. It was a sign.
jesus cybercube, let it go.
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[Leo656]

Chalk up another victory for people with absolutely zero taste whatsoever.

They're gonna need to shut this whole place down, based on what it's been like the last 4 months. TMNT fans are f*cking obnoxious. I can't believe I only realized that recently.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

Chalk up another victory for people with absolutely zero taste whatsoever.

They're gonna need to shut this whole place down, based on what it's been like the last 4 months. TMNT fans are f*cking obnoxious. I can't believe I only realized that recently.

Ok, after reading this comment you now sound like a very unpleasant guy, one who takes himself way too seriously.

[IndigoErth]

Ok... now how do we start voicing wishes for this? Not big stuff in terms of telling them what to write, but just important things we'd like to see done slightly differently that affect the whole thing.. Pacing (slow down a bit please), get Pete in for Leo's voice (please give Leo a bit more heart and not stuck in 'tough guy' mode nearly the whole time), etc.

While I'd been iffy on this film and I'm stuck in limbo of having enjoyed it reasonably enough however feeling a little empty on some aspects... I have to admit I'd like to see a sequel happen IF they can put more character development into the guys and let a second one patch up what my heart feels was missing this first time around.

[Leo656]

Ok, after reading this comment you now sound like a very unpleasant guy, one who takes himself way too seriously.

And after reading a few other people's comments, a lot of people sound like they'd swallow absolutely anything with a TMNT sticker on it, even if it was garbage.

Generalizations are fun, aren't they?

[MajorViolence]

And after reading a few other people's comments, a lot of people sound like they'd swallow absolutely anything with a TMNT sticker on it, even if it was garbage.

Generalizations are fun, aren't they?

That's not true! I sucked off a hobo last night with a TMNT sticker on his penis and I totally spat!

[Autbot_Benz]

Well at least I was wary from the start. As soon as I saw those nostrils I knew all hope was lost. It was a sign.

for Christ sake shut the hell up about the damn nostrils you are f'n obsessed about them.

[Candy Kappa]

Next ones the charm.

[Galactus]

Exactly.. So many folks frequented THIS sub forum on a daily basis literally just to trash and slander this movie. Everyday it was a different reason for why this movie would fail. EVERY REASON IN THE BOOK for why this movie would fail. Every geek site.. Every article, Every comment section.. This movie and it's production stood it's ground and kept on moving forward against all odds. So many people passionate and committed to it's failure. Nothing taste better than this. NOTHING! This movie will succeed in SPITE of everyone that made it their everyday duty trying to bury it in negativity.

I think a bit of correction in necessary here.

So many folks frequented THIS sub forum stating with reasons why they felt the movie would be awful not that it would fail.

There have been countless comments from many of the "leery" crowd that they felt that the movie would be a huge hit despite it likely being a bad movie in the same way that the Transformers movies are seen as bad by many and yet become hits. It's only comparitively recently that it looked like perhaps this movie might not go the same route due to things which looked like the studio hedging their bets.

For my part I've said myself that it would beat the recent projections due to them being made before promotion realy ramped up but after long thinking it would be a huge hit despite it being garbage but but was beginning to suspect it might...repeat might not be a runaway moneymaker after all. Was I wrong? Defenders of this movie talk as if this is a huge Transformers size smash but it aint getting anywhere near those numbers.

I don't think anyone should be gloating. Partly because while the movie may have had a successful opening week it's not the box office breaker worth bragging about a secondly that there was never a question of it being a flop but whether it'd actually be good.

[Leo656]

That's not true! I sucked off a hobo last night with a TMNT sticker on his penis and I totally spat!

http://www.buzzpirates.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/awinnerisyou490-300x174.jpg
:lol:

[Pondslider]

I have not seen the movie and probably won't see it in theaters. The fact that it's getting predictably hideous reviews is enough to make me not want to bother. Even people that are excited about this news in this thread have said it left a lot to be desired. I'm just wondering for those that have seen and have their list of things that need to be improved in the sequel have you seen the transformers movies? Each one got progressively worse and now that this has made a lot of money what incentive is there for the producers to do anything different? This was a cash grab and it worked for them. The second one won't be any different.

[Werecat]

Well if the directors don't impede the writers I guess the second will be better. 'cause those writers you listed are good.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

And after reading a few other people's comments, a lot of people sound like they'd swallow absolutely anything with a TMNT sticker on it, even if it was garbage.

Generalizations are fun, aren't they?

Nah, ya see, the thing is that they just aren't major bigots when it comes to tmnt. Unlike some folks here.

[Commenter 42]

Nah, ya see, the thing is that they just aren't major bigots when it comes to tmnt. Unlike some folks here.

Did you just say Bigots?

HAHAHA...

Define bigots...TMNT Bigots.

[NinjaPug]

Well if the directors don't impede the writers I guess the second will be better. 'cause those writers you listed are good.

Nemec and Applebaum?

[sdp]

I'm excited, I think the movie was good and look forward to another adventure in this universe. especially that they seem to know now where they are heading. As far as the release date, summers will be bloated with big movies every week, that's how it always is, if you don't want competition you release it another season, however even if there's more competition more people see movies in the summer which is why most movies are released then.

[Leo656]

Your nonsensical comment is a major reach, bud. "Bigots"? The hell?

There's nothing wrong with anyone, anyone, who can take their "Fan Goggles" off for five seconds and see things as they are. In fact, they're better people if they can do that.

But then, there's that word again, "Objectivity", that absolutely no one has anymore, at least not around here.

Face it, that's the New Rule: You either blindly love everything TMNT, even if it's bad, or else you're (Some Dumb Insult Word). That's where we are now. F*ck that.

[Commenter 42]

Nemec and Applebaum?

Great writers, sure. "Stupid rich."

[Vicky82]

Come on guys, please stop the argueing. I don't want another thread locked.

[Leo656]

Come on guys, please stop the argueing. I don't want another thread locked.

((Points)) That kid started it. He took my applejuice and then he called me a name.

[Commenter 42]

They keep pulling my hair!

[Leo656]

I'm pretty sure Shredder is a TMNT Bigot. He always called them "Wretched Reptiles" and stuff like it was a racial slur. I am positive, that Shredder in the OT, was a TMNT Bigot.

We have a new thing to say sometimes! :lol:

[Puddinpop]

I think a bit of correction in necessary here.

So many folks frequented THIS sub forum stating with reasons why they felt the movie would be awful not that it would fail.

There have been countless comments from many of the "leery" crowd that they felt that the movie would be a huge hit despite it likely being a bad movie in the same way that the Transformers movies are seen as bad by many and yet become hits. It's only comparitively recently that it looked like perhaps this movie might not go the same route due to things which looked like the studio hedging their bets.

For my part I've said myself that it would beat the recent projections due to them being made before promotion realy ramped up but after long thinking it would be a huge hit despite it being garbage but but was beginning to suspect it might...repeat might not be a runaway moneymaker after all. Was I wrong? Defenders of this movie talk as if this is a huge Transformers size smash but it aint getting anywhere near those numbers.

I don't think anyone should be gloating. Partly because while the movie may have had a successful opening week it's not the box office breaker worth bragging about a secondly that there was never a question of it being a flop but whether it'd actually be good.

Blah blah bliblidee blah blah. Apparently you haven't been paying attention bud.
Let me break it down for you ok. I or anyone here has EVERY RIGHT to feel ecstatic about this news. You can sit here and continue to try and kill the buzz all you want. It hasn't worked for the last 8 months and it certainly ant going to work now. I'm sorry that after EVERYTHING that has gone down in this forum alone.. the constant negativity people obnoxiously rooting for this movie to fail.. that we feel the need to celebrate.

You can compare it to whatever the hell movie you want to ok? TMNT... the movie that everyone thought would flop.. is a hit success. It's number 1. God forbid fans be happy about it in the movie section of the forum. Your pessimistic mentality doesn't change anything. I'm not surprised to see some of you being a little bitter in this thread. It's amusing.

Cant wait to see Bebop Rocksteady and Casey Jones :D

[Warhorse]

Ok... now how do we start voicing wishes for this? Not big stuff in terms of telling them what to write, but just important things we'd like to see done slightly differently that affect the whole thing.. Pacing (slow down a bit please), get Pete in for Leo's voice (please give Leo a bit more heart and not stuck in 'tough guy' mode nearly the whole time), etc.

While I'd been iffy on this film and I'm stuck in limbo of having enjoyed it reasonably enough however feeling a little empty on some aspects... I have to admit I'd like to see a sequel happen IF they can put more character development into the guys and let a second one patch up what my heart feels was missing this first time around.

Agree. If Fox can get 3 dimensions from some CGI apes, that are the stars of their movie, not the humans, (and hair is harder to CGI than reptile skin) then TMNT can do the same!

But yeah, Turtle development, (I would love to see them having to crash at April's place, should be interesting) ease up on the shaky cam, close up shots and quick editing, get a more cohesive script, and we might have something. Really, I think they should look into the Triceratons, it's something that hasn't been seen in the big screen yet. Hell, even Nick toon hasn't been using them yet, so it would be a way for the movie to be very distinct from the Nick toon.

[Leo656]

I like how you Quoted Galactus for a reply but clearly didn't read a word he wrote. That's kinda funny. Not one word of your reply is related to anything Galactus said. Snicker.

[Xiewin]

I would be more excited if they didn't keep the same directors or writers.
I don't want two sh*tty written movies in a row. I want a good one.

[pdizzle]

And after reading a few other people's comments, a lot of people sound like they'd swallow absolutely anything with a TMNT sticker on it, even if it was garbage.

Generalizations are fun, aren't they?

But garbage by whos standards? People who has yet to see the movie? Im not even getting smart, but everyone elses OPINION means jack when I can make that call for myself. Love it or hate it we all either like or dislike it for our own reasons, so I dont think its fair to really call it garbage because its not up to your standards anymore than I could call gaurdians garbagebecause im not into space sh't. Dont take this as an insult just an opinion.....

[Commenter 42]

I'm pretty sure Shredder is a TMNT Bigot. He always called them "Wretched Reptiles" and stuff like it was a racial slur. I am positive, that Shredder in the OT, was a TMNT Bigot.

We have a new thing to say sometimes! :lol:

Shredder's such a bigot. He's just the biggest bigot.

Are we even speaking english? What has happened here!

I can't stand Justin Bieber. Am I a Bieber-bigot? But wait, Bieber's an actual bigot, so If I'm the bigot of a bigot?

Lets see if the hype lasts before we jump on the sequel train, shall we?
Of course they're announcing a sequel... drives more people to see this one.
Marketing 101 here folks.

[TigerClaw]

For the sequel, They need to give Karai a bigger role, With The Shredder down, She would take over the Foot Clan, Until Shredder returns.

[Puddinpop]

I love turtles :wink:

[Warhorse]

I think they should get a kid in the sequel. Maybe someone like Angel or Cody (I'm thinking Quvenzhané Wallis or Ty Simpkins could play either of them)

[METALHEAD]

guys! guys! lets all mellow out. yea, i get some will hate the film, others will be okay with it. while the rest will be happy. this news is joyous none the less.

lets all just be happy this franchise is going strong after 30 years!
lets just celebrate the success that is TMNT! http://media.tumblr.com/a3bca185f4f530ac240d98c0000a7c7f/tumblr_inline_na3w2ryT8b1s4f17x.gif

[prescribeddrone]

I'll see it, I liked the new one- while not great it was fun.

[Puddinpop]

I think they should get a kid in the sequel. Maybe someone like Angel or Cody (I'm thinking Quvenzhané Wallis or Ty Simpkins could play either of them)

I agree.. I kind of liked what they did for Iron Man 3 with the kid being involved with the plot. Not sure if you liked that film. But you mean something like that?

guys! guys! lets all mellow out. yea, i get some will hate the film, others will be okay with it. while the rest will be happy. this news is joyous none the less.

lets all just be happy this franchise is going strong after 30 years!
lets just celebrate the success that is TMNT! http://media.tumblr.com/a3bca185f4f530ac240d98c0000a7c7f/tumblr_inline_na3w2ryT8b1s4f17x.gif

Amen to that dude.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0c3c19191e8692b564a0eaa34d8d15d8/tumblr_mjh963QReu1s0hnxko1_500.gif

[TigerClaw]

I think they should get a kid in the sequel. Maybe someone like Angel or Cody (I'm thinking Quvenzhané Wallis or Ty Simpkins could play either of them)
Or Zach from the 80s series.
http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Zach

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140529222421/tmnt/images/6/64/Tft1.png

[Leo656]

But garbage by whos standards? People who has yet to see the movie? Im not even getting smart, but everyone elses OPINION means jack when I can make that call for myself. Love it or hate it we all either like or dislike it for our own reasons, so I dont think its fair to really call it garbage because its not up to your standards anymore than I could call gaurdians garbagebecause im not into space sh't. Dont take this as an insult just an opinion.....

I ain't arguin' with you either, pal. :) Just saying, a whole lot of people on this very forum were really looking forward to the movie, and were completely let down by it, it was more than a few people, they all gave good reasons for it, and yes, I do respect their opinion enough to take it into consideration. If anything, I'm more considerate of someone who was clearly very enthusiastic up until a certain point, taking the time to say, "You know what? I wasn't happy with it, and here's why..." I'll always take far more consideration of those kind of opinions, over someone who said over a year ago this was going to be "the best movie ever omg" and came out of it saying, "anyone who didn't like it is just (some dumb name)." There's objective opinions and biased opinions, and blatantly biased opinions, positive or negative, are worthless.

Every single time a person calls someone a name for disagreeing with them over a movie, their opinion loses all its merit, because it proves they can't handle anyone even trying to show them that something may not be as perfect as they want to admit. And the fact is, whenever the very best thing anyone can say about something is, "Don't expect too much", that means it's a badly-made product no matter what it is. Movie, record, video game... "Please Lower Your Standards Beforehand" is not an endorsement.

If we're asking "whose standard", I'll say, anyone who isn't a fan. "Fan" opinions don't matter to me, because fans are biased, and most people who don't identify as "fans" have few good things to say about this one, strictly as as to whether or not it's a good movie. Am I going to avoid this movie as some people are? No. Do I wish they made it this way? No. Do I want to go through this all again in two years? No. Definitely no. Not if people are going to continue to act the same way they've been for over six months, that's for sure.

[Warhorse]

guys! guys! lets all mellow out. yea, i get some will hate the film, others will be okay with it. while the rest will be happy. this news is joyous none the less.

lets all just be happy this franchise is going strong after 30 years!
lets just celebrate the success that is TMNT! http://media.tumblr.com/a3bca185f4f530ac240d98c0000a7c7f/tumblr_inline_na3w2ryT8b1s4f17x.gif

Yeah, this. I know people who are hardcore Sailor Moon fans, and they are still waiting for a live action flick.

[Leo656]

Try being a Voltron fan.

Eh, who am I kidding, they'd ruin it.

[Puddinpop]

But garbage by whos standards? People who has yet to see the movie? Im not even getting smart, but everyone elses OPINION means jack when I can make that call for myself. Love it or hate it we all either like or dislike it for our own reasons, so I dont think its fair to really call it garbage because its not up to your standards anymore than I could call gaurdians garbagebecause im not into space sh't. Dont take this as an insult just an opinion.....

Well put mang. It's all about what you enjoy. And honestly.. people have been calling this " garbage" since it was announced so..

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[Leolead]

Well I didn't get a chance to see it August 8th.. but I'm going to see it now!!

Sequel?!? count me in!!

[Commenter 42]

Try being a Voltron fan.

Eh, who am I kidding, they'd ruin it.

Set on Earth in the distant future, Zac Efron, Zooey Deschanel, and Michael Cera are VOLTRON FORCE. Genetically modified to be the best video gamers ever, they remotely pilot giant metal eagles (played by Andy Serkis) using their extraordinary "gaming" gifts over a T-Mobile® super-speed connection. They Risk it all from their Playstation 9® systems to battle the Russians, who've created giant angry bears with the crushing might of Vladimir Putin (also played by Andy Serkis), in their secret lab, deep beneath Chernobyl, to take over the world with their evil socialism.

[Werecat]

I'm glad that a sequel is happening, they just need a better writer, and not more then one.
Oh please no. Having one writer, no matter how good they are, is a bad idea. Did you know Maleficent had the writer of The Lion King. Maleficent got 48% from Rotten Tomatoes. Several others movies that had critically acclaimed writers did poorly too because there was only one. For a movie which has a deadline they need multiple great writers to finish it quickly and to properly edit it on time.
I would be more excited if they didn't keep the same directors or writers.
I don't want two sh*tty written movies in a row. I want a good one.
The writers for TMNT are great. The main problem was the director and producers which are known to impede writers from doing their job correctly.

Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum have a good track record. Most of their movies got above 50% and their work on TV shows averaged to about 7/10. It seems like the writers were conflicted with Jonathan Liebesman. A movie does poorly if the writer and director can't communicate and work together properly.

Edit: Also Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum were only responsible for rewrites on certain parts.(Well it seems like it) They are not responsible for the full plot.

[CyberCubed]

Is it too late for the Turtles to get a nose job?

[Commenter 42]

Is it too late for the Turtles to get a nose job?

Might be the funniest thing you've ever said. :lol:

[MajorViolence]

Is it too late for the Turtles to get a nose job?

I honestly don't see why they couldn't redesign the faces a bit. Obviously we won't see a complete change to the classic look, but they might nudge the design in a more familiar direction.

[Leo656]

Set on Earth in the distant future, Zac Efron, Zooey Deschanel, and Michael Cera are VOLTRON FORCE, genetically modified to be the best video gamers ever, they remotely pilot giant metal cows (played by Andy Serkis) using their extraordinary "gaming" gifts over a T-Mobile® super-speed connection. They Risk it all from their Playstation 9® systems to battle the Russians, who've created giant angry bears with the crushing might of Vladimir Putin (also played by Andy Serkis), in their secret lab, deep beneath Chernobyl, to take over the world with their evil socialism.

You know how sometimes you laugh until you start crying? This is like that, but in reverse.

Eh, if Allura took her t**s out I'd probably find a way to cope.

[Xiewin]

Oh please no. Having one writer, no matter how good they are, is a bad idea. Did you know Maleficent had the writer of The Lion King. Maleficent got 48% from Rotten Tomatoes. Several others movies that had critically acclaimed writers did poorly too because there was only one. For a movie which has a deadline they need multiple great writers to finish it quickly and to properly edit it on time.

The writers for TMNT are great. The main problem was the director and producers which are known to impede writers from doing their job correctly.

Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum have a good track record. Most of their movies got above 50% and their work on TV shows averaged to about 7/10. It seems like the writers were conflicted with Jonathan Liebesman. A movie does poorly if the writer and director can't communicate and work together properly.

hmm..Now that I think about it, the turtles were written pretty well and I did laugh at some of the jokes. But the plot was so poor that I almost forgot about that. Seriously Jonathan Liebesman needs to get replaced.

[Leo656]

Is it too late for the Turtles to get a nose job?

http://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/36d326263fe4cfcd657a9b46177f4844/9224%20-%20Big_Show%20Souled_Out%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20ja ckknife_powerbomb%20kevin_nash%20powerbomb%20refer ee%20the_giant%20wcw.gif

You make me want to do that. Repeatedly.

[ObiWanFan4life]

hmm..Now that I think about it, the turtles were written pretty well and I did laugh at some of the jokes. But the plot was so poor that I almost forgot about that. Seriously Jonathan Liebesman needs to get replaced.

I have to somewhat agree with this. The turtles were fine in the movie. But they definitely need to be the main characters in the sequel.

[MajorViolence]

hmm..Now that I think about it, the turtles were written pretty well and I did laugh at some of the jokes. But the plot was so poor that I almost forgot about that. Seriously Jonathan Liebesman needs to get replaced.

I thought the turtles really needed to be more than one-dimensional stereotypes, but that's something that could easily be addressed in a sequel by slowing the pace down and giving the turtles more screen time.

[Commenter 42]

You know how sometimes you laugh until you start crying? This is like that, but in reverse.

Eh, if Allura took her t**s out I'd probably find a way to cope.

You know she wouldn't, but she would sing a folk song about her fun afternoon.

[Leo656]

Right after Leslie Burke cracked her skull open in that lake when the rope swing broke. :lol: Awk-waaaard.

[Warhorse]

I agree.. I kind of liked what they did for Iron Man 3 with the kid being involved with the plot. Not sure if you liked that film. But you mean something like that?
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I did like the movie, and the kid was the best part for me. In the end of it all, even if the franchise is mature, kids are still the driving force behind it, I would think it be very arrogant to keep them out of the pictures altogether just because some people don't like kids in movies.

[Commenter 42]

Right after Leslie Burke cracked her skull open in that lake when the rope swing broke. :lol: Awk-waaaard.

"And I'll form... the head!"

You know...just because.

[Ashangelo]

Sounds like awesome news to me.

[tmntgoldcoin]

fantastic!!!!! I figured just as much.

[Leo656]

"And I'll form... the head!"

You know...just because.

I wanna watch Voltron now, but I can't because it's goddamn Shark Week. :ohwell:

[Warhorse]

Oh please no. Having one writer, no matter how good they are, is a bad idea. Did you know Maleficent had the writer of The Lion King. Maleficent got 48% from Rotten Tomatoes. Several others movies that had critically acclaimed writers did poorly too because there was only one. For a movie which has a deadline they need multiple great writers to finish it quickly and to properly edit it on time.

The writers for TMNT are great. The main problem was the director and producers which are known to impede writers from doing their job correctly.

Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum have a good track record. Most of their movies got above 50% and their work on TV shows averaged to about 7/10. It seems like the writers were conflicted with Jonathan Liebesman. A movie does poorly if the writer and director can't communicate and work together properly.

Edit: Also Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum were only responsible for rewrites on certain parts.(Well it seems like it) They are not responsible for the full plot.

I agree with the multiple writers. Not to mention, when dealing with the four Turtles whose personalities are very distinct, having one writer risks the chance that all of the Turtles start become similar. I've seen complaints that Leo and Raph are almost mirrors of eachother, and Leo himself doesn't exactly have his personality down yet. Yeah, we know he's the leader, but it would be nice if we can get a scenario to show how cool, calm and calculated he can be under pressure.

[Commenter 42]

I wanna watch Voltron now, but I can't because it's goddamn Shark Week. :ohwell:

Haha...
Damn you Discovery! I had things to do today!

[Leo656]

Not my call, it's the wife's. She gets the TV during Shark Week. That's one of "The Rules". :roll:

[Warhorse]

Not my call, it's the wife's. She gets the TV during Shark Week. That's one of "The Rules". :roll:

Your wife likes shark week?

[Leo656]

No no, she "likes" Hanson. She's goddamn obsessed with Shark Week.

[Stugehen]

This is awesome news! Glad to see TMNT continue on the big screen. I would welcome different writers and a new director. As far as Platinum Dunes goes I don't mind that they are sticking to it. There wasn't anything in the production value I felt was lacking.

[Commenter 42]

No no, she "likes" Hanson. She's goddamn obsessed with Shark Week.

You know, TV's are cheap these days...they say a second TV saves marriages, and lives.

[Leo656]

:lol: If I actually cared much about watching TV I might bother. It's usually just background noise.

[TigerClaw]

I asked the Artist who did some of the character designs for the movie about the sequel, And this is what he replied to me.
https://twitter.com/Monstermash042/status/498577743328448512
@TigerClaw305 @Monstermash042 Now that a TMNT Movie sequel is announced, Hopefully they contacted you about some new designs? #TMNTMovie #TMNT

@Monstermash042 @TigerClaw305 I wouldn't be allowed to comment either way. TMNT has an epic rogues gallery. I have a few I would love to see

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

I agree with the multiple writers. Not to mention, when dealing with the four Turtles whose personalities are very distinct, having one writer risks the chance that all of the Turtles start become similar. I've seen complaints that Leo and Raph are almost mirrors of eachother, and Leo himself doesn't exactly have his personality down yet. Yeah, we know he's the leader, but it would be nice if we can get a scenario to show how cool, calm and calculated he can be under pressure.

Leo was fine. He had fun dancing in the elevator, he participated in buck buck, and did the splits on stuff while holding eggs with chopsticks. I think that was enough to make this version of him stand out, compared to the other versions I have seen of him.

[Commenter 42]

I asked the Artist who did some of the character designs for the movie about the sequel, And this is what he replied to me.
https://twitter.com/Monstermash042/status/498577743328448512

Keep that guy away from the sequel, at all costs. I don't want to see his version of anything.

[GrapeSoda]

Keep that guy away from the sequel, at all costs. I don't want to see his version of anything.

just imagine his version of Bebop......let that imagery swim around in your brain for a little while. Think of all the Rob Liefeld straps and pants made out of turtle bones. SO epic!

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Well...glad I never saw/supported this film and glad that I never will.

Movies like Edge of Tomorrow & Dredd flop, actual good movies who don't get the support...and yet films like this do.

:roll:


Congratulations.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

^Good for you.

[Warhorse]

Leo was fine. He had fun dancing in the elevator, he participated in buck buck, and did the splits on stuff while holding eggs with chopsticks. I think that was enough to make this version of him stand out, compared to the other versions I have seen of him.

Agree to disagree. His best moment was when he threw his sword at Shredder. I didn't care for the "punishment" scene at all. I really disliked Splinter in this. I really wouldn't have minded if they had just killed him off period.

[NinjaPug]

Great writers, sure. "Stupid rich."

They're the next Orci and Kurtzman.


The writers for TMNT are great. The main problem was the director and producers which are known to impede writers from doing their job correctly.

Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum have a good track record. Most of their movies got above 50% and their work on TV shows averaged to about 7/10. It seems like the writers were conflicted with Jonathan Liebesman. A movie does poorly if the writer and director can't communicate and work together properly.

Edit: Also Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum were only responsible for rewrites on certain parts.(Well it seems like it) They are not responsible for the full plot.

You do know these two were the Blue Door writers, right? Liebesman is getting too much blame.

This is awesome news! Glad to see TMNT continue on the big screen. I would welcome different writers and a new director. As far as Platinum Dunes goes I don't mind that they are sticking to it. There wasn't anything in the production value I felt was lacking.

Platinum Dunes is just as big (probably bigger) of a problem. The writers and director they hired are just studio yes-men.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

What did splinter do to punish them? I forgot.

[fridaynightdestination]

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As you can tell, I am happy. I don't care what all these haters say, I thought the new TMNT movie, while it had plenty of issues, was great, and I can't wait to see more :D:D:D:D:D

[GrapeSoda]

Well...glad I never saw/supported this film and glad that I never will.

Movies like Edge of Tomorrow & Dredd flop, actual good movies who don't get the support...and yet films like this do.

:roll:


Congratulations.

That's the nature of the mindless popcorn biz. Just turn of your brain and enjoy the film for what is.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Glad to hear that there will be another one. While I wasn't amazed by this movie, I thought it was decent enough.

However, I wouldn't mind seeing the writing team quit and new ones come on board. As much as some of us fanboys and fangirls are happy the movie was better than our low expectations, there is a ton of room for improvement.

[Werecat]

hmm..Now that I think about it, the turtles were written pretty well and I did laugh at some of the jokes. But the plot was so poor that I almost forgot about that. Seriously Jonathan Liebesman needs to get replaced.
Or Jon just needs to let the writers do their job. Jon needs to trust them. I know Jon tends to do some writing for his movies. He did work on a movie that got 67% from Rotten Tomatoes, so I think the relationship between the writers and the director are important.
I agree with the multiple writers. Not to mention, when dealing with the four Turtles whose personalities are very distinct, having one writer risks the chance that all of the Turtles start become similar. I've seen complaints that Leo and Raph are almost mirrors of eachother, and Leo himself doesn't exactly have his personality down yet. Yeah, we know he's the leader, but it would be nice if we can get a scenario to show how cool, calm and calculated he can be under pressure.
Yeah, each character needs to be distinct. I didn't pick up on them being too similar in the movie but I can see it now. I think it is because Raphael was not given scenes to show his berserker side, which is the main difference between Leo and Raph. Instead Raphael was forced into the "I care about family" cliche. Seriously, Raphael cares about his independence. Leo cares for unity. See the impending conflict by putting those types together.

Leo was dominant in this film though; he made multiple attempts to put Raphael in his place and showed confidence when confronting Raphael. Most people wouldn't have the confidence to stand up against a 6' tall muscular mutant. lol

[Bob]

These types of films usually have multiple writers, anyway. It wouldn't surprise me if someone else comes on board to write another draft when they're done.

[ZariusTwo]

I don't care what all these haters say

That word stopped being hip several years ago, just saying.

[TerranigmaFreak]

Better story with less rewrites and a better director could make the next movie better.

[Leo656]

That word stopped being hip several years ago, just saying.

Aw, c'mon. It's all they got, man. Take that away and they'd actually have to come up with something of substance. And ain't nobody around here gonna work that hard.

[The Stryker]

Aw, c'mon. It's all they got, man. Take that away and they'd actually have to come up with something of substance. And ain't nobody around here gonna work that hard.

Yeah. All empty statements like a person that hasn't seen the movie.

Enough with the 'Us vs. Them' bullsh*t.

[Bry]

Yeah. All empty statements like a person that hasn't seen the movie.

Enough with the 'Us vs. Them' bullsh*t.

Yeah? I've seen the thing, and I've substantiated exactly why I feel it's a legitimately bad movie (http://brykotyk.tumblr.com/post/94125894404/cowabungle). I'm getting lumped in as a "hater" too, aren't I? Tell me again where this "'us vs. them' ********" is coming from.

[The Stryker]

Yeah? I've seen the thing, and I've substantiated exactly why I feel it's a bad movie (http://brykotyk.tumblr.com/post/94125894404/cowabungle). I'm getting lumped in as a "hater" too, aren't I? Tell me again where this "'us vs. them' ********" is coming from.

I was referring to Leo656.

But yeah. Get all offended. If I was talking about you I would've mentioned you.

And its coming from both damn sides.

[Coola Yagami]

That's.... Horrible.

This needs a reboot like now.

[Cure]

Yeah? I've seen the thing, and I've substantiated exactly why I feel it's a legitimately bad movie (http://brykotyk.tumblr.com/post/94125894404/cowabungle). I'm getting lumped in as a "hater" too, aren't I? Tell me again where this "'us vs. them' ********" is coming from.

FROM BOTH F*CKING SIDES.

Holy Hell.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

I really hate the it's just there statement when it comes to describing something, what is that crap even suppose to mean?

[Leo656]

"It's just there" is kind of a loose way to say, an idea or concept doesn't do anything to justify itself, or make itself interesting, but isn't actively "bad" or offensive, either. Usually it's something that you notice but isn't fleshed out enough to become either good or bad. Generally speaking, anyway.

[Bry]

I was referring to Leo656.

But yeah. Get all offended. If I was talking about you I would've mentioned you.

And its coming from both damn sides.

Oh, I'm not offended. Just pointing out a double standard. "Haters" get tossed around out as a blanket statement at everyone who doesn't like the thing, no matter how much they can back that up with evidence. The original comment wasn't just talking about people who hadn't seen the movie, after all.

Yet some people jump to defend that behaviour so long as it lines up with their "side". How about we acknowledge insults and troll behaviour regardless of where it's coming from? That'd be nice.

[TigerClaw]

The film actually had 3 writers, Evan Daugherty, Who got lucky when he wrote Snow White and the Huntsman. He probably did the majority of the rewrites I think.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

I don't think that the quality of the movie depends on how many writers there are, the writer or writers just need to write acceptable stuff, nothing more.

[The Stryker]

Oh, I'm not offended. Just pointing out a double standard. "Haters" get tossed around out as a blanket statement that applies to everyone who doesn't like the thing, no matter how much they can back that up with evidence. The original comment wasn't just talking about people who hadn't seen the movie, after all.

Yet some people jump to defend that behaviour so long as it lines up with their "side".

Ok? If you're so confident about your damn opinion. Just let the 'hater' comments roll off your back instead of responding and adding to the bullcrap.

Both sides do it. One side yells 'Hater' the other side insults their taste in movies or intelligence. Same sh*t.

[Bry]

Ok? If you're so confident about your damn opinion. Just let the 'hater' comments roll off your back instead of responding and adding to the bullcrap.

Both sides do it. One side yells 'Hater' the other side insults their taste in movies or intelligence. Same sh*t.

But why does one seem to bother you more than the other? I'm supposed to let the insults "roll of my back", but you're awful quick to criticize when somebody talks too loud in the other direction. You piped in to snipe at Leo656, but not a peep from you about the one who called people "haters" for no good reason.

Double standard. Just saying.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

So will this sequel have those 'The Raid/Fist of Legend' style fights scenes that Kevin Eastman and/or company kept saying this film was going to have?

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

As far as I am concerned, it is an x amount of certain people that are against the movie that are the source of the problem, they seem to be causing the constant fighting for the most part.

[Warhorse]

So will this sequel have those 'The Raid/Fist of Legend' style fights scenes that Kevin Eastman and/or company kept saying this film was going to have?

I'm pretty sure those scenes were shot, it's just the sh!tty shaky cam made it nearly impossible to actually see it. Captain America TWS was guilty of this crap too, had great fight scenes, that was marred by horrible shaky cam. At least as the movie went on, Cap 2 toned it down. TMNT, not so much.

[Leo656]

I don't think that the quality of the movie depends on how many writers there are, the writer or writers just need to write acceptable stuff, nothing more.

I'unno, I kinda think too many people throwing ideas around over-complicates things. It's like when you're in school trying to do a group project, and everyone's fighting for their ideas to take priority. In theory, multiple people working together and sharing ideas is great. In practice, it doesn't work too well, and the more people involved only means more people pushing their own agenda on the final product.

So, I'd argue it actually does matter, and the more people are credited as "writers" the worse off everything becomes. Since most movies are studio projects, it's understandable that a lot of them have at least two writers, and that's worked out well sometimes. But generally, the more people have their hands on a movie's script before it's over, the more it messes up the final product. Two or three is all you really need.

[Bry]

As far as I am concerned, it is an x amount of certain people that are against the movie that are the source of the problem, they seem to be causing the constant fighting for the most part.

No, the problem comes from people who can't deal with someone stating a civil and thoroughly-justified opinion without dismissing, insulting and/or generalizing them or their entire "side". Kinda like you just did.

Not saying it's only one side doing it. But some people are way more critical of the "side" they don't line up with. And that just makes it worse.

I'm pretty sure those scenes were shot, it's just the sh!tty shaky cam made it nearly impossible to actually see it. Captain America TWS was guilty of this crap too, had great fight scenes, that was marred by horrible shaky cam. At least as the movie went on, Cap 2 toned it down. TMNT, not so much.

I had much less trouble following the action in Cap 2. Competent fight choreography and direction are essential. If either side drops the ball there... it's gonna be rough.

[The Stryker]

But why does one seem to bother you more than the other? I'm supposed to let the insults "roll of my back", but you're awful quick to criticize when somebody talks too loud in the other direction. You piped in to snipe at Leo656, but not a peep from you about the one who called people "haters" for no good reason.

Double standard. Just saying.

You see because I was talking out about people that haven't seen the movie at all talking out of their ass about it. That's it. He has made it clear he hasn't seen the thing but still chimes in with 'I know its bad!' That annoys me.

Its not a double standard. This is a whole other third thing.

You can dislike or like the damn thing as much as you want. I've really never taken a stance in that whole thing other than 'Its f*cking dumb on both ends'

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

No, the problem comes from people who can't deal with someone stating a civil and thoroughly-justified opinion without dismissing, insulting and/or generalizing them or their entire "side". Kinda like you just did.

Not saying it's only one side doing it. But some people are way more critical of the "side" they don't line up with. And that just makes it worse.

Kinda like what I just did? What the hell are you talking about? :-?

[Cure]

Its not a double standard. This is a whole other third thing.



It's a triple standard! HaaaaaaaaaaaaI'm out.

[Bry]

Kinda like what I just did? What the hell are you talking about? :-?

You flat-out said "certain people that are against the movie that are the source of the problem". Like what, they're the only source of the problem? That's not true at all. C'mon.

[The Stryker]

It's a triple standard! HaaaaaaaaaaaaI'm out.

PS Triple Standard.

I hope Baxter is slick black. Like mah hair.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

You flat-out said "certain people that are against the movie that are the source of the problem". Like what, they're the only source of the problem? That's not true at all. C'mon.

Look here, if these people that I spoke of were down with the movie then I would not being saying stuff like that, it's as simple as that. It isn't my problem that people are extremely sensitive, what am I suppose to think when I see **** that signifies that they do not think highly of the new tmnt movie? Man up man, just a little bit.

[pdizzle]

Oh, I'm not offended. Just pointing out a double standard. "Haters" get tossed around out as a blanket statement at everyone who doesn't like the thing, no matter how much they can back that up with evidence. The original comment wasn't just talking about people who hadn't seen the movie, after all.

Yet some people jump to defend that behaviour so long as it lines up with their "side". How about we acknowledge insults and troll behaviour regardless of where it's coming from? That'd be nice.

I would just like to throw my 2 cents into this because while im probobly just as guilty at using the word hater I think its more of a lose term. If and when I do use hater, and im not speaking on behalf of everyone but id like to think it applies to all that do, im refering not to those that genuinely dislike the movie or choices made but rather hater is used to describe those that are like trolls and bash anyone who likes the movie and claims those who like it dont have standards or are plants and ect, ect.....personally speaking I like conversations with those of a different opinion because it gives me better perspective of why something I like is so hated or something I hate is so well recieved but it seems impossible to do that on these forums because it always seems to lead to unnecessary arguments...im only stating this because not all possitive people are trying to bash those who dislike this movie or choices behind the movie, rather I just think the genuine questions of why not get lost in all the bickering agendas floating around this place....

[Bry]

Look here, if these people that I spoke of were down with the movie then I would not being saying stuff like that, it's as simple as that. It isn't my problem that people are extremely sensitive, what am I suppose to think when I see **** that signifies that they do not think highly of the new tmnt movie?

So you're saying people are "the source of the problem" because they're criticizing the movie? For that specific reason? And that you wouldn't be saying what you do if they were supporting it?

That kinda proves there's a double standard, doesn't it?

If and when I do use hater, and im not speaking on behalf of everyone but id like to think it applies to all that do, im refering not to those that genuinely dislike the movie or choices made but rather hater is used to describe those that are like trolls and bash anyone who likes the movie and claims those who like it dont have standards or are plants and ect, ect.....

Okay, but you can see how this goes both ways, right? Like, when some people are calling "hater" at everyone that doesn't like the movie, that sets them all on edge. It does go both ways. I just think a lot of people are really quick to attack the "opposing side" over the exact same behaviour they'll let slide when it's coming from their own.

And let's be honest here - both sides are being really sensitive about this stuff right now. And some folks are clearly trying to poke at people to set them off. We could all stand to calm down a bit.

[Rukitron]

This didn't need a sequel.

[TigerClaw]

With the sequel, Paramount no longer have to hold any secrets since we know who is who. But they'll no doubt keep whatever Mutants that show up, Under wraps.

[slingtheory]

As far as I am concerned, it is an x amount of certain people that are against the movie that are the source of the problem, they seem to be causing the constant fighting for the most part.

I've just been reading through this and keeping quiet but I gotta say I don't think this isn't true at all. Form the guys not happy with this movie I've mostly seen disappontment being expressed and jokes being cracked. But the insults and anger appear to be coming from one side originally. People so eager to denounce the haters despite the fact that their feelings and remarks should in no way hamper your own happiness and excitement. All this talk of haters and whiners when you could just accept some people don't feel like you feel and let it go.

[JTH]

Can't wait to see TMNT II be about Shredder unleashing a deadly mutagen outbreak across NYC, and it be randomly called "The Krang Virus"...

Hey, they'll call it "Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze" because they know that title has never been used before. :D

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

I've just been reading through this and keeping quiet but I gotta say I don't think this isn't true at all. Form the guys not happy with this movie I've mostly seen disappontment being expressed and jokes being cracked. But the insults and anger appear to be coming from one side originally. People so eager to denounce the haters despite the fact that their feelings and remarks should in no way hamper your own happiness and excitement. All this talk of haters and whiners when you could just accept some people don't feel like you feel and let it go.

You are in denial if you think all the people that do not like the movie for various reasons are completely innocent, they are not and that is a fact. It's not enough for the people who do not like it to just simply explain why and move on, no no, they gotta be annoying with their displeasure and be offensive with statements. I have been accused of being a plant and not a tmnt fan just cause I don't like all the versions of tmnt.

[pdizzle]

So you're saying people are "the source of the problem" because they're criticizing the movie? For that specific reason? And that you wouldn't be saying what you do if they were supporting it?

That kinda proves there's a double standard, doesn't it?



Okay, but you can see how this goes both ways, right? Like, when some people are calling "hater" at everyone that doesn't like the movie, that sets them all on edge. It does go both ways. I just think a lot of people are really quick to attack the "opposing side" over the exact same behaviour they'll let slide when it's coming from their own.

And let's be honest here - both sides are being really sensitive about this stuff right now. And some folks are clearly trying to poke at people to set them off. We could all stand to calm down a bit.
Yes I agree, I thought id wrote in I know its coming from both sides, but I think my thoughts were moving faster than my fingers. I just feel this sh*t has been going on for far to long, alliences has been made and now its hard to tell who is who and honestly I think it will only get worse in the weeks ahead untill this movie's dust settles.

[Leo656]

And we get to do it all over again in 2016! :lol:

:cry:

[Warhorse]

Yes I agree, I thought id wrote in I know its coming from both sides, but I think my thoughts were moving faster than my fingers. I just feel this sh*t has been going on for far to long, alliences has been made and now its hard to tell who is who and honestly I think it will only get worse in the weeks ahead untill this movie's dust settles.

Or, until the new episodes of the Nick toon show up. The Leo One shot is going to steal alot of the movie's thunder, at least on the technodrome.

[pdizzle]

And we get to do it all over again in 2016! :lol:

:cry:
Hopefully this sequel will go in a direction that unites the fandom instead of dividing it...



wishful thinking....I know:lol:

Or, until the new episodes of the Nick toon show up. The Leo One shot is going to steal alot of the movie's thunder, at least on the technodrome.

So are they doing a leo oneshot for the show? Is it supposed to be based off of the comics or something?

[Quasimod0]

I really enjoyed this movie. I'm excited for the sequel!

[Leo656]

Hopefully this sequel will go in a direction that unites the fandom instead of dividing it...



wishful thinking....I know:lol:


It'd be impossible. The people who didn't like this one are only gonna hate the sequel even more, both because it continues something they don't like and because as most sequels do, it will probably amp up all the things they didn't like about the first one (the same way the second "Pirates" movie was content to recycle the exact same jokes and gags, just twice as many). Meanwhile, the people who like it are just going to be even more protective and defensive of the sequel.

They'll never, ever make a movie that "unites" the fandom, but I wish they had managed to make one that wasn't SO polarizing. It can only get worse from here, as far as the arguing goes, which is why I kind of wish they'd just stop making movies altogether. They're not gonna make a better one than this one, nobody's ever gonna stop arguing about it and taking it way too far, so what's the point, anymore?

I never thought I'd say it, but I think we've had enough TMNT movies for a while. It's only ever going to come to this same kind of thing out of people, and that's depressing.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Hopefully this sequel will go in a direction that unites the fandom instead of dividing it...



wishful thinking....I know:lol:



Or it'll be Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen - Part Deux.

[NinjaPug]

22 months is a quick turnaround for a sequel. Good thing we've got such a talented production company behind it.

[TigerClaw]

Given that this was the first time they used this Tech with the 1st film, There will be a vast number of improvements for the 2nd one from a technological standpoint.

[pennydreadful]

Welcome to the Pit of Despair. Don't even think about trying to escape.

http://blissteredseoul.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/869263_e92049fc79_o.jpg?w=535

I wanna watch Voltron now, but I can't because it's goddamn Shark Week. :ohwell:

Young man, in this house we treat Shark Week with respect!

And we get to do it all over again in 2016! :lol:

:cry:

Thank god I'm already heavily medicated. Seriously.

So, who wants to place bets on what 80s franchise they're going to give to Bay to mangle next? Cuz you know it's coming.

[ScrewtheMirageTMNT]

I'll keep my eyes and ears peeled on the leaks for this one. :D

[Warhorse]

Hopefully this sequel will go in a direction that unites the fandom instead of dividing it...



wishful thinking....I know:lol:



So are they doing a leo oneshot for the show? Is it supposed to be based off of the comics or something?

Well, I don't know if it's going to be ripped out of the comics, but we got glimpses from comic con, and we see a lone Leo all of a sudden surrounded by Shredder, Tiger Claw and the henchmen, and then we see Leo come crashing through a window. I'm expecting it to be on par or not better than 2k3, but we'll soon see enough.

[Leo656]

So, who wants to place bets on what 80s franchise they're going to give to Bay to mangle next? Cuz you know it's coming.

C.O.P.S. or M.A.S.K. Neither one of them have any business being revived, nor enough substantial material to carry an entire movie. Either would be a terrible idea and a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved.

So, either one of those would be perfect. I'm sure it's been discussed.

[Warhorse]

Thank god I'm already heavily medicated. Seriously.

So, who wants to place bets on what 80s franchise they're going to give to Bay to mangle next? Cuz you know it's coming.

The horror!
http://mooshinindy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RainbowBriteStarlitepic.jpg

[Leo656]

Oh, for Azatoth's sake, leave Rainbow Brite alone.

You know they'd slut her up and Starlite would have a crush on her. Y'know, to make it "hip" and "funny". "I like how you ride me without a saddle, Rainbow..."

[pennydreadful]

Please, knowing our luck they'll hand him He-Man or Thundercats. I can see it now - Megan Fox as Cheetara, Panthro can be some jive-talkin' mofo... it'll be box-office gold. :blanksta:

[Commenter 42]

It'd be impossible. The people who didn't like this one are only gonna hate the sequel even more, both because it continues something they don't like and because as most sequels do, it will probably amp up all the things they didn't like about the first one (the same way the second "Pirates" movie was content to recycle the exact same jokes and gags, just twice as many). Meanwhile, the people who like it are just going to be even more protective and defensive of the sequel.

They'll never, ever make a movie that "unites" the fandom, but I wish they had managed to make one that wasn't SO polarizing. It can only get worse from here, as far as the arguing goes, which is why I kind of wish they'd just stop making movies altogether. They're not gonna make a better one than this one, nobody's ever gonna stop arguing about it and taking it way too far, so what's the point, anymore?

I never thought I'd say it, but I think we've had enough TMNT movies for a while. It's only ever going to come to this same kind of thing out of people, and that's depressing.

If they were to do a faithful adaptation of Mirage, you would get a lot less arguing. Sure some people don't like Mirage, but the discussions wouldn't be as heated. Same goes for a faithful OT, Nick, or IDW, 2K3 etc...

[Commenter 42]

Please, knowing our luck they'll hand him He-Man or Thundercats. I can see it now - Megan Fox as Cheetara, Panthro can be some jive-talkin' mofo... it'll be box-office gold. :blanksta:

Heman's apparently in preproduction.

I don't even want to know.

[Warhorse]

If they were to do a faithful adaptation of Mirage, you would get a lot less arguing. Sure some people don't like Mirage, but the discussions wouldn't be as heated. Same goes for a faithful OT, Nick, or IDW, 2K3 etc...

I dunno. We got just as many people who aren't fans of the Mirage as they aren't fans of the 2014 movie. And it's OK to not be digging the source material. I personally love the movie version of Kick Ass vs the comic version, especially when it comes the second one.

[Leo656]

If they were to do a faithful adaptation of Mirage, you would get a lot less arguing. Sure some people don't like Mirage, but the discussions wouldn't be as heated. Same goes for a faithful OT, Nick, or IDW, 2K3 etc...

See, I completely disagree. I think you'd have the exact same rabble-rousers complaining that everything was too "safe" and "boring" if they did any of that. If for no other reason than, this movie's "different for different's sake" approach is something a lot of people celebrate for some reason.

Maybe there'd be a little less arguing, but I doubt it. They'd still be saying people "can't handle change" and are "stuck in the past", only they'd have a lot more ammo.

Anyways, that Jem movie is coming out soon. That sounds pretty terrible.

And there's a hyphen in "He-Man", you heathen.

[Bob]

As of now Jeff Wadlow (Kick-Ass 2) is writing and directing He-Man. That is the only 80s franchise I think deserves a 21st century movie.

[Warhorse]

See, I completely disagree. I think you'd have the exact same rabble-rousers complaining that everything was too "safe" and "boring" if they did any of that. If for no other reason than, this movie's "different for different's sake" approach is something a lot of people celebrate for some reason.

Maybe there'd be a little less arguing, but I doubt it. They'd still be saying people "can't handle change" and are "stuck in the past", only they'd have a lot more ammo.

Anyways, that Jem movie is coming out soon. That sounds pretty terrible.

And there's a hyphen in "He-Man", you heathen.

Yeah, I had to do a double take, I thought he said Herman, and I thought that was some weird comedy about the voices in a guys head.

So, lets see, Hollywood is doing a live action Clifford!

I'm surprised Disney didn't do a version of ChipNDale Rescue Ranges when Alvin and The Chipmunks were a modest hit.

I would have always loved an updated version of BraveStar. If just to see ThirtyThirty as a live action android on the big screen. I could imagine it would look wicked as hell.

[RaphaelinSTL]

Terrible news.


I found out the news this morning but was out all day so I couldn't really comment. Man, what a bummer this is. I guess it's just because this movie feels so rushed and lacking of a cohesive story that I'm worried that within two years time....they'll rush this sequel out just as fast and without care like this movie was. I guess it's interesting to think of the possibilities, but I have to say I don't like the world set up for me in this first movie to care about what kind of adventures these Teenage Mutant Douchebag Turtles are going to get into.

[M-Frame]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turn Up. Just saw it a second time. I forgot who said it, but while far from perfect it was very entertaining. Hopefully the sequel is also PG-13 rated (at the very least), PD ignores fanboys this time around, and the turtles aren't de-clothed or shrunken.

[Warhorse]

As of now Jeff Wadlow (Kick-Ass 2) is writing and directing He-Man. That is the only 80s franchise I think deserves a 21st century movie.

Why not She-Ra?

[Powder]

Terrible news.

[Leo656]

Why not She-Ra?

They could always spin it off. I mean, to be fair, She-Ra only had about 1/1000 the interest or fanbase He-Man had. And if the cartoon hadn't been directly spun-off from that, done in the exact same style, and He-Man didn't constantly show up in the show, that audience would've been about 0. Just saying. Nobody's screaming to bring She-Ra back because nobody was really begging for it back in the 80s in the first place.

Hollywood can't even figure out how to make Wonder Woman work, how are they ever gonna handle She-Ra? She's a chick and she has a sword. That's way more detail than Hollywood can handle with their female leads.

[jett]

After seeing this current tmnt I can only a sequel will is great news.

I didn't have high expectations of it but it was actually entertaining. It had nice action, great story and it was funny and every character played their role well. I rate it a 8 or9 /10. Great TMNT movie.

[Werecat]

You do know these two were the Blue Door writers, right? Liebesman is getting too much blame.

Where did you get this info?

I thought Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum were not apart of the project when the blue door script got leaked. I remember from an interview that Andre said they were called recently to rewrite the script. Almost all of the writers, beside Jonathan Liebesman, were only credited for rewrites instead of writing the actual script.

[Warhorse]

They could always spin it off. I mean, to be fair, She-Ra only had about 1/1000 the interest or fanbase He-Man had. And if the cartoon hadn't been directly spun-off from that, done in the exact same style, and He-Man didn't constantly show up in the show, that audience would've been about 0. Just saying. Nobody's screaming to bring She-Ra back because nobody was really begging for it back in the 80s in the first place.

Hollywood can't even figure out how to make Wonder Woman work, how are they ever gonna handle She-Ra? She's a chick and she has a sword. That's way more detail than Hollywood can handle with their female leads.

Might be hard to do, she had that flying pegasus unicorn, and those things tend to not look so hot in CGI.

[M-Frame]

...I guess it's just because this movie feels so rushed and lacking of a cohesive story that I'm worried that within two years time....they'll rush this sequel out just as fast and without care like this movie was...

I think a lot of the reason the movie feels so rushed/patched together and disjointed is due to scenes being removed/re-shot last minute partly 'cuz of negative reactions from fans. It's pretty heartbreaking, really. I think if the studio ignored fanboys and trolls/nerds and stuck to their guns as far as the route they were initially taking with the movie, we would've a got a more cohesive, connected, fleshed-out story...... but also a white Shredder. Unfortunately due to ****** circumstances (Both PD and angry nerds are to blame), we couldn't have it both ways.

[NinjaPug]

Where did you get this info?

I thought Andre Nemec and Josh Appelbaum were not apart of the project when the blue door script got leaked. I remember from an interview that Andre said they were called recently to rewrite the script. Almost all of the writers, beside Jonathan Liebesman, were only credited for rewrites instead of writing the actual script.

From the script that has their names on it.

Nemec and Applebaum were the originators of alien turtles and a military Foot (and Colonel Schraeder) which is why I'm pissed they're working on the sequel. I've seen what their version of a TMNT script is and it's bad.....really bad.

Evan Dougherty was brought in to rewrite their crappy script. Liebesman didn't have any hand in the script or the rewrites.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Just because it is announced doesn't mean it'll 100% happen folks.

Sequels get 'announced' all the time. How many times have they announced Ghostbusters 3 is 'getting made' and is 'coming soon'? Still nothing. Studios announced a sequel to the remake of Evil Dead, and nothing so far on that either.

[RaphaelinSTL]

I think a lot of the reason the movie feels so rushed/patched together and disjointed is due to scenes being removed/re-shot last minute partly 'cuz of negative reactions from fans. It's pretty heartbreaking, really. I think if the studio ignored fanboys and trolls/nerds and stuck to their guns as far as the route they were initially taking with the movie, we would've a got a more cohesive, connected, fleshed-out story...... and probably a white Shredder. Unfortunately due to ****** circumstances (Both PD and angry nerds are to blame), we couldn't have both.

I think right there should be your biggest red flag as to why this next movie is doomed. If they're not confident in the stories they're trying to create and are so afraid of changing certain things due to fan backlash, what makes us think they're competent and confident enough to write better stories?

It makes me kind of sick actually. Very terrible news.

Just because it is announced doesn't mean it'll 100% happen folks.

Sequels get 'announced' all the time. How many times have they announced Ghostbusters 3 is 'getting made' and is 'coming soon'? Still nothing. Studios announced a sequel to the remake of Evil Dead, and nothing so far on that either.

This is what I'm hoping for, but what makes me nervous is they've already set a date. Sure, this could change...but look at Amazing Spider-Man 2. When that was released in 2012, it was a modest hit but it was good enough to set a date for May of this year. Obviously any Spider-Man fan can tell you what a piece of garbage that film is and I'm afraid we'll probably see a pattern with TMNT 2 in 2016.

I wish this would take a Green Lantern path and just fall off already.

[Coola Yagami]

I think right there should be your biggest red flag as to why this next movie is doomed. If they're not confident in the stories they're trying to create and are so afraid of changing certain things due to fan backlash, what makes us think they're competent and confident enough to write better stories?

It makes me kind of sick actually. Very terrible news.

They should have done like GI Joe and delay it a year and started the whole thing over from scratch. Starting from the script and onwards.

[Bob]

Sequels get 'announced' all the time. How many times have they announced Ghostbusters 3 is 'getting made' and is 'coming soon'? Still nothing. Studios announced a sequel to the remake of Evil Dead, and nothing so far on that either.

Often, though, when the studio gives it a release date it’s virtually a done deal. Sony has never given Ghostbusters 3 a release date. My guess is Paramount was always confident with TMNT and the sequel has been in the works for a while. Not only did they make the announcement very quickly, but they even announced who's writing it.

[pennydreadful]

They could always spin it off. I mean, to be fair, She-Ra only had about 1/1000 the interest or fanbase He-Man had. And if the cartoon hadn't been directly spun-off from that, done in the exact same style, and He-Man didn't constantly show up in the show, that audience would've been about 0. Just saying. Nobody's screaming to bring She-Ra back because nobody was really begging for it back in the 80s in the first place.

Hollywood can't even figure out how to make Wonder Woman work, how are they ever gonna handle She-Ra? She's a chick and she has a sword. That's way more detail than Hollywood can handle with their female leads.

A She-Ra movie would be awesome - I for one would plunk down my dollars to see Swiftwind. :D Though if they're gonna put $$ into a cg unicorn, I'd much rather that they do a live-action version of The Last Unicorn.

I think a lot of the reason the movie feels so rushed/patched together and disjointed is due to scenes being removed/re-shot last minute partly 'cuz of negative reactions from fans. It's pretty heartbreaking, really. I think if the studio ignored fanboys and trolls/nerds and stuck to their guns as far as the route they were initially taking with the movie, we would've a got a more cohesive, connected, fleshed-out story...... but also a white Shredder. Unfortunately due to ****** circumstances (Both PD and angry nerds are to blame), we couldn't have it both ways.

Oh yeah, it's our fault. :trolleye: Last I checked, none of the leery crowd were in the editing room - they didn't tell 'em how to cut it. Seriously, if you can't edit together a cohesive story, fine - but don't blame it on someone else. They're professionals, I'm not taking any blame for their lack of pride or talent in their chosen profession.

[RaphaelinSTL]

For some reason I have a feeling the writing for this movie is going / will be going like this...

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- Platinum Dunes

[METALHEAD]

I think a lot of the reason the movie feels so rushed/patched together and disjointed is due to scenes being removed/re-shot last minute partly 'cuz of negative reactions from fans. It's pretty heartbreaking, really. I think if the studio ignored fanboys and trolls/nerds and stuck to their guns as far as the route they were initially taking with the movie, we would've a got a more cohesive, connected, fleshed-out story...... but also a white Shredder. Unfortunately due to ****** circumstances (Both PD and angry nerds are to blame), we couldn't have it both ways.

^
agreed. one thing they need to do is ignore the fanboys. they damn near ruin the fandom.

[Bry]

I think a lot of the reason the movie feels so rushed/patched together and disjointed is due to scenes being removed/re-shot last minute partly 'cuz of negative reactions from fans. It's pretty heartbreaking, really. I think if the studio ignored fanboys and trolls/nerds and stuck to their guns as far as the route they were initially taking with the movie, we would've a got a more cohesive, connected, fleshed-out story...... but also a white Shredder. Unfortunately due to ****** circumstances (Both PD and angry nerds are to blame), we couldn't have it both ways.

If the studio hasn't listened to "angry nerds", we would have gotten the Blue Door version - alien Turtles, alien Shredder, Shia-style Casey, etc. The reason they had to rush and patch things together so much is because they kept having to backtrack away from all of their terrible ideas after each online controversy. It didn't lead to a good movie, but it shows that every last one of their creative instincts were completely lousy. That's not our fault - that's theirs.

...though actually, y'know what? I actually think I agree - I wish they hadn't listened. That movie would have crashed and burned instantly, and would have been legitimately more interesting in a "what the hell were they thinking?" kind of way.

[Leo656]

A She-Ra movie would be awesome - I for one would plunk down my dollars to see Swiftwind. :D Though if they're gonna put $$ into a cg unicorn, I'd much rather that they do a live-action version of The Last Unicorn.

Now you're just trying to get me all excited for things that'll never happen. "The Last Unicorn", she says...

And I didn't say I wouldn't see a She-Ra movie, because I more than likely would, I just don't think they'd have any idea how to do it. The entire cast is chicks, and one possibly-bi-curious male archer with a 70s porn 'stache. How would anyone in Hollywood make that work? They can't even write one competent female character at a time, let alone a dozen. They'd have to pull a "Red Sonja" and have the male lead (probably He-Man in a guest-star role) carry the entire movie, just so they don't have to actually write a female character with any depth. That's how they always do it.

[Warhorse]

A She-Ra movie would be awesome - I for one would plunk down my dollars to see Swiftwind. :D Though if they're gonna put $$ into a cg unicorn, I'd much rather that they do a live-action version of The Last Unicorn.



Oh yeah, it's our fault. :trolleye: Last I checked, none of the leery crowd were in the editing room - they didn't tell 'em how to cut it. Seriously, if you can't edit together a cohesive story, fine - but don't blame it on someone else. They're professionals, I'm not taking any blame for their lack of pride or talent in their chosen profession.

Yes, I have been waiting for a live action Last Unicorn since I saw Legend. Oh well, I am patient, I can wait.

And about the whole white Shredder thing. They did it stupid. They should have gone and done everything they were going to do, make Sachs into a puppet who fails at the end, and then, the ending credits scene should have been Sachs, walking around his mansion, all banged up, when the real Shredder shows up out of the shadows, and gives one of them "I am so disappointed in you, you failed me for the last time. Gather your men, it's time for them to meet their real master!"

[Coola Yagami]

If the studio hasn't listened to "angry nerds", we would have gotten the Blue Door version - alien Turtles, alien Shredder, Shia-style Casey, etc. The reason they had to rush and patch things together is because they kept having to backtrack away from all of their terrible ideas. It didn't lead to a good movie, but it shows that every last one of their creative instincts were completely lousy.

...actually, y'know what? I actually think I agree - I wish they hadn't listened. That movie would have crashed and burned instantly, and would have been legitimately more interesting in a "what the hell were they thinking?" kind of way.

The movie was horrible from the get-go when they approved and started working on the Blue Door version. No matter how much patchwork and re-shot scenes you throw in there, it's still horrible since it's using that as the base.

They should have swallowed their pride, admit they had no idea what they were doing and started over from scratch.