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Tinselcat
06-28-2002, 02:27 PM
okay, here's the deal: i have an idea for a tmnt fanfic, which i've been planning to write for awhile, and it originally featured 4 new characters. however, upon reflection, i'm concerned that four may be too many for people to keep up with, or keep interest in. i'd introduce them gradually, but i want people to actually read it. i know i'll need at least two of the characters for plot reasons, but i'd like some input on the number of characters. so, there you have it. let the wisdom fly!

Skeletoncrew
06-28-2002, 03:50 PM
Thats my trouble...pretty much all of my fic ideas involve my own characters. Introducing them can be a pain in the rear. Personally, I don't see a problem with new character quantity as long as its still a TMNT story.

The only thing that bothers me about hearing "4" characters is the cliche potential. You're not going to give each of the Turtles a girlfriend or boyfriend are you? I've just read one too predictable story to many...

Kali
06-28-2002, 08:17 PM
Well, the number of characters isn't really a problem. I think as long as you don't focus too much on them, you could get away with it. How you write is just as important as what you write.

Loolaa
06-29-2002, 02:31 AM
I had the same problem, mine were four characters... and I was never really sure if it was destracting from the turtles. That's why it's not on ff.net.
In fact HT is the only person who's read it! ... she said it was like a soap opera!! :lol:

Deskjet Shredder
06-29-2002, 07:29 AM
Oh, I don't think that the quantity is the main problem. I have another trouble... I've invented an exciting plot but for it to be realized, Shredder must become a good guy at the end of the story :!: Is it allowed by the rules of the fanfiction? :-?

HorseTechie
06-29-2002, 09:08 AM
I had the same problem, mine were four characters... and I was never really sure if it was destracting from the turtles. That's why it's not on ff.net.
In fact HT is the only person who's read it! ... she said it was like a soap opera!! :lol:

Well yeah... four girls n four turtle girls, two of which are already gettin paired up. Like I said, it's kinda like Sex n the City (minus the sex). *ducks baps* I still liked though!

But I think introducing four characters in a story is fine. Unless you're writing a short story... then that won't work. I have like... 8 or so other characters besides the TMNT in HI NO DE. Mummer's Dance, there's Don n Heather, and then the family and all the workers on the farm (not to mention the horses)!

The trick is introducing the characters in turns, and then perhaps taking turns with them in different scenes. It's bad to always have all of them present and together all the time (I read a couple stories and RPG's like that... :dead: )

Even with other things, like GBs, TFs, Digimon, LotR, Harry Potter, etc, where you got a big main character cast, they'll just focus on a handful of characters at a time, like those with a dilemmia or a plan of action, etc. Hope this also helps.

HorseTechie
06-29-2002, 09:11 AM
Oh, I don't think that the quantity is the main problem. I have another trouble... I've invented an exciting plot but for it to be realized, Shredder must become a good guy at the end of the story :!: Is it allowed by the rules of the fanfiction? :-?
Well.. it is fanfiction, so anything goes (even though many other readers may not like it ;) )! I killed off an original bad guy. *shrug*

Loolaa
06-29-2002, 11:44 AM
I think your idea could be interesting Deskjet Shredder.... what could possibly happen to make Shredder turn good...? I'm intruiged!

My characters weren't meant to get paired up... just that one unfortunate pairing.. ;) I can kind of see the Sex in the City thing... kinda....
I've sort of lost my enthusiasm for that one, anyway.. :goofygri:

Tinselcat
06-29-2002, 01:02 PM
Thanks for the advice, folks! i'll try not to make it too cliche. i think i have enough plot twists to avoid that, and i'm not pairing up all of the turtles. i may only write romance for two, three at most. i'll take your advice concerning this fic. thanks a lot!

Deskjet Shredder
06-30-2002, 09:35 AM
I think your idea could be interesting Deskjet Shredder.... what could possibly happen to make Shredder turn good...? I'm intruiged!

Well... What if Shredder finds his brother? According to the cartoon, he had a younger brother (unfortunately I haven't seen this episode 'cause the whole Season 5 was missed when the TMNT were shown in Russia :cry: ). As far as I know, in the comics he had an elder brother. So I thought that if the creators themselves couldn't decide whether to make him younger or older I could suggest my own version. In my fanfic the guy will be his twin. :lol: I suppose that's allowed, isn't it?

Skeletoncrew
06-30-2002, 12:35 PM
Of course its allowed! If you want to make Shredder into a Transexual from Transylvania you're allowed to. Oooohhh...I now have an image of him dressed up as Dr. Frankenfurter...this is not a good thing. *smacks head* Out out damn thought!

Ahem. Seriously though, I'd love to see some more fanfiction with Shredder. I'm starting to watch the cartoons again...so maybe I'll get around to writing some.

Deskjet Shredder
06-30-2002, 11:12 PM
:lol:
Who is Dr. Frankenfurter? Is he a parody on Frankenstein?

Skeletoncrew
07-01-2002, 01:10 AM
Oh, I was referring to the Rocky Horror Picture show. He was a transsexual mad scientist.

HorseTechie
07-01-2002, 11:12 AM
ehhh... and I thought Raph dressed as such was a disturbing image! :oops:

Tinselcat
07-01-2002, 11:14 AM
okay, now someone has to draw the shredder as dr. frankenfurter, with casey and april as janet and whatsisname, and the turtles as frankenfurter's flunkies!!

HorseTechie
07-01-2002, 11:17 AM
*looks for Kali*

I'm too busy doing some plain-jane profile drawings for Ryutaro and Azure. :P

Kali
07-01-2002, 01:00 PM
As much as I like the Rocky Horror Picture Show, that's just not striking inspiration with me. Besides, I gotta take a break from drawing and writing. I hurt my arm bowling and it hasn't gotten better so I think I pulled a tendon or something because muscle pain relievers just aren't working. :(

HorseTechie
07-01-2002, 05:57 PM
ouch... you prolly just strained a muscle/tendon. If a tendon or something was torn, you wouldn't be able to move it at all! If it still hurts after a week, better have it checked then. </end mother hen mode>

Kali
07-01-2002, 06:27 PM
Get it checked out? Like by a doctor? I'm sure it won't come to that. :embarass:

It only hurts when I bend my wrist and fingers back like when I'm getting out of a chair, opening a door, stretching to avoid carpal tunnel...

Loolaa
07-02-2002, 12:21 AM
Owch.

I hope it gets better soon, Kali.

Kali
07-02-2002, 08:37 AM
Thanks. It's actually feeling a lot better this morning. :)

Skeletoncrew
07-02-2002, 01:42 PM
Ouch. Sorry to hear about your owie Kali! Hmmm...the TMNT/Rocky Horror thing is kind of amusing. The trouble is casting the females. Gotta have at least a Janet, Magenta, and Columbia. Splinter could easily be Dr. Scott. Maybe Raph could be Eddie. Heh, Leo could be Rocky.

Kali
07-02-2002, 01:47 PM
Well, April would make a good Janet, as Tinselcat said. You could always use Renet and Venus. Maybe even Irma from the cartoon.

Skeletoncrew
07-02-2002, 01:57 PM
*smacks forehead* Duh! How could I forget about Venus! I just painted one!!! *Imagines Venus in a French Maid costume* Heh heh heh...

Tinselcat
07-03-2002, 08:07 AM
the foot soldiers could be the mad scientists from transylvania!

Kali
07-03-2002, 09:49 AM
Yes, Foot Soldiers make good extras.

HorseTechie
07-03-2002, 10:20 AM
:| What have I stumbled into...?

*edges back out*

azure turtle
07-07-2002, 12:37 AM
*backs up a bit as HT bumps into him*
I don't know what you've stumbled upon, but it sounds pretty scary. :eek: Aww...I'm sorry to hear about your injury, Kali!
*gives Kali a mango of healing*
I hope you're doing a lot better now. :)

Kali
07-07-2002, 10:52 AM
Yep, back to normal now! Well, not normal... eh, you guys know what I mean.

azure turtle
07-07-2002, 05:00 PM
LOL! Glad to hear you're back to "normal." :D

Kali
07-07-2002, 05:15 PM
Heh heh.

Okay, now *I* need some advice. I have a story I'm working on that I've been calling Sweet Dreams. That's the working title, but someone else is going to use it as a title for another fic, so I'm changing it. I didn't really like the title anyway, gives too much away.

So... I need a new title. Any ideas? It's an erotic thriller based around five dream sequences. I can give more details if necessary. I don't want it to be too obvious. I've tried my dictionary, my reverse dictionary, title generators, everything, but I'm stuck. Just throw ideas at me people!

azure turtle
07-07-2002, 05:34 PM
Hmm...I've never been any good at picking names for titles, but hopefully my suggestions will give you some inspiration :anime: Okay...how about these suggestions:
Sleep Tight
Pleasant Dreams
Sleepless Nights
Insomnia
Wait, you said it was an erotic thriller? How about "Wet Dreams"? LOL!! Sorry, I just had to say it...Good luck finding a title, dudette. :)

Kali
07-07-2002, 05:37 PM
*takes down notes* Thanks! I hope I have something by the time it's done.

HorseTechie
07-08-2002, 09:27 AM
Hrrmmm...

Don't Turn Out the Light? (okay, okay... a rip off that gnad song that keeps on getting stuck in my head)

Pillow Visions?
Passionate Peace?

Or how about a japanese translation of "Sweet Dreams"...?

Kali
07-08-2002, 10:07 AM
Actually, I really like Pleasant Dreams, and a few other suggestions, but the entire thing is not dreams, there's more plot to it.

So I decided on "Pleasant Dreams, Waking Nightmare". A bit longer than I usually like to use, but it describes both parts of the story. But knowing me, it'll change again before I put it out if I find something I like better.

Thanks for everybody's help!

azure turtle
07-08-2002, 07:26 PM
Ooh, you've got my interest, Kali! This new fic sounds scary... :eek:

Kali
07-08-2002, 07:57 PM
It is. If you can manage to get past the NC-17 parts. :P

azure turtle
07-08-2002, 08:06 PM
Hmm...perhaps I will. You've already got my attention with the little teasers you've been dropping. :)

Loolaa
07-09-2002, 12:03 AM
Well I'm definately looking forward to reading it. :D

Tinselcat
07-09-2002, 07:27 AM
*dashes in* did someone say 'erotic thriller'? :evilgrin:

Skeletoncrew
07-09-2002, 01:10 PM
:D Nice to know I'm not the only one around here with a one-track mind!

Kali
07-09-2002, 01:15 PM
LOL! I'm glad everybody's looking forward to it. I hope the plot's not too distracting to you two. :lol:

Skeletoncrew
07-09-2002, 01:33 PM
I'm sure we can handle it! :roll:

Tinselcat
07-09-2002, 01:52 PM
*pauses from polishing her fuzzy handcuffs* one track mind? me? whatever gave you that idea? now, where'd donnie go?...

Skeletoncrew
07-09-2002, 02:19 PM
Can't say I've seen him. Would you like to borrow my collar and leash? The collar has a lock on it so it can't be easily removed.

Kameko
07-09-2002, 02:22 PM
*overhears conversation* Wha--.....nevermind. *decides she doesn't even want to know*

azure turtle
07-09-2002, 03:51 PM
:sweatdro: I'm with ya on this one, Kameko. I don't wanna know what TC is up to...

Kali
07-09-2002, 05:38 PM
:roll: The Turtle's a ninja. He's gonna be able to get out of anything you put him in in five seconds flat.

Skeletoncrew
07-09-2002, 11:59 PM
Only if he wants to! :wink:

Kali
07-10-2002, 03:18 PM
*chuckles*

Well, chapter ten of Crash and Burn is up on my site. That means just one more chapter before the new story. I better move it if I want to finish it before then. Those types of stories always take me the longest to get right.

azure turtle
07-10-2002, 04:03 PM
Ooh! New chapter! :anime:
*makes mental note to read it later tonight*

Skeletoncrew
07-11-2002, 01:01 AM
Excellent as always Kali! I can't wait to find out what happens to Kali! Somehow I doubt that the police would be very willing to believe that Shredder was in any shape to have attacked her.

azure turtle
07-11-2002, 01:38 AM
Ooh...that was very exciting! Great work, Kali! I can't wait to see what happens next...I think the cop is gonna have a fit. :lol:

Tinselcat
07-12-2002, 06:00 PM
*sounds of giggling come from outside the thread*