Who would win in chess, Leo or Donny?

[Warhorse]

I always wondered about this. Donny is super smart, but Leo is supposed to be the strategic one, and a game of chess is probably something he excels at. But really, who would be the dominant one?

[IndigoErth]

Hmm... that is a tough one. I was gonna say Donnie, but if Leo could see ahead and work out the pros and cons of each potential move, maybe he's got it. Donnie probably wouldn't make it easy on him though.


Not that I even know how to play it to know what I'm taking about... :roll:

[Hannurdock]

I think it might end up a stalemate, not a checkmate.

I could imagine them sitting for hours and not getting anywhere much.

[Warhorse]

Did you all like how in Harry Potter, it wasn't the leader (Harry) or the brainiac (Hermione) that was good at chess, but the comedy sidekick, Ron. Who knows, maybe Mikey has something up his sleeve. But either way, it's just one of these things I wondered. It's a good way to stack up how Leo and Donny are similar to eachother while being so different at the same time.

[Powder]

I think Donnie, only because (if we're talking Mirage) I think he could play some sort of head-game with Leo to make him question himself & ultimately do the wrong thing.

[ssjup81]

Did you all like how in Harry Potter, it wasn't the leader (Harry) or the brainiac (Hermione) that was good at chess, but the comedy sidekick, Ron. Who knows, maybe Mikey has something up his sleeve. But either way, it's just one of these things I wondered. It's a good way to stack up how Leo and Donny are similar to eachother while being so different at the same time.Did you know that for the books that there was more to Ron than just being a comedic sidekick and that in the books he was written as being perceptive and noticing things before Harry which was hinted at before the chess match in book 1?

That aside, as a chess player, a crappy one lol, I can't even say regarding these two. It depends on the medium and incarnation, but if basing it on the current Nick version I could see it going either way.

Leo is a strategic thinker and chess is good for formulating battle plans. He's also quick to think on his feet (but as a leader I could see this applying to pretty much all the incarnations).

Donnie is smart and has the tendency to overthink, but plan out practically all probable moves depending on the situation (which his chart making pointed out).

Depending on the situation, I still could see it going either way. Donnie's overthinking could cause him to lose with Leo besting him with a simple, practical move...or it could cause Donnie to win by anticipating that move.

[Shark_Blade]

I put my money on Donnie.

His probability calculations surpass Leo's definitely. All it takes is risk taking, and that's what he's been doing all this time with his experiments in the lab. Risk taking. :tcool:

[Warhorse]

Did you know that for the books that there was more to Ron than just being a comedic sidekick and that in the books he was written as being perceptive and noticing things before Harry which was hinted at before the chess match in book 1?

That aside, as a chess player, a crappy one lol, I can't even say regarding these two. It depends on the medium and incarnation, but if basing it on the current Nick version I could see it going either way.

Leo is a strategic thinker and chess is good for formulating battle plans. He's also quick to think on his feet (but as a leader I could see this applying to pretty much all the incarnations).

Donnie is smart and has the tendency to overthink, but plan out practically all probable moves depending on the situation (which his chart making pointed out).

Depending on the situation, I still could see it going either way. Donnie's overthinking could cause him to lose with Leo besting him with a simple, practical move...or it could cause Donnie to win by anticipating that move.

I read all of the Harry Potter books, but due to Ron being my least favorite, I tend to skim the parts he was in.

[Prowler]

This thread has been made before. Maybe it wasn't in the title, but I recall having a discussion about this some months ago.

Anyway, Donatello might be science smart and all, but that doesn't make one good at chess. Leonardo seems more like the type who'd enjoy a strategical game like this than Donatello. So I'm going with Leonardo on this one.

[ssjup81]

I read all of the Harry Potter books, but due to Ron being my least favorite, I tend to skim the parts he was in.Did you ever watch the films?

[Candy Kappa]

Think Leo would be the better strategist, and think a few steps further then Donnie. Donnie would probably have a good start while proclaiming the name of his moves ect, but in the end I think Leo would checkmate Donnie right under his nose.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Isn't Chess more about Strategy, rather than intelligence? I think, then in that case, Leo would probably win.

[Shark_Blade]

In Follow the Leader, Donnie trumps Leo using his own strategy and brain.

[shuriken]

Donnie. Chess not only involves strategizing your own moves but calculating your opponents' moves and countering them, as well as having contingencies if one strategy doesn't work. Leo might hold his own but Donnie would win off of all those contingencies alone.

[Slade]

I'd roll with Donnie on this one.

[Electric]

stalemate

leo is a leader, a strategist. part of that is having a plan b

donnie is the brains, he knows the game inside and out


leo would start off with a strategy, donnie would see through it and take control, but leos ability to adapt and react to situations would keep him in it

[TurtleTitan97]

My money's on Leo. As the leader, he's a master strategist. And to win chess, it's all about strategy.

[Shark_Blade]

But a strategist is overshadowed by an analyst that can come up with vast probabilities and counterplans that he could even come up with; that's where Don overshadows Leo. So I reckon Don wins the chess match.

Reason I think Don doesn't lead is because he wasn't fussed. He's more than capable to lead based on his reasonings, but he much rather put his super mind pondering on science and knowledge. Leo only overshadow Don in terms of martial art experience imo.

[ssjup81]

But a strategist is overshadowed by an analyst that can come up with vast probabilities and counterplans that he could even come up with; that's where Don overshadows Leo. So I reckon Don wins the chess match.

Reason I think Don doesn't lead is because he wasn't fussed. He's more than capable to lead based on his reasonings, but he much rather put his super mind pondering on science and knowledge. Leo only overshadow Don in terms of martial art experience imo.True, but Donnie also overthinks. He could get beaten because of that...but he could also win because of it.

[IndigoErth]

Donnie might hesitate too much as leader with all his over thinking, but makes him a huge asset for Leo as his right hand man. Chess however... I dunno, he might take too long with all his thinking and get tripped up by being urged to make his move. Can't work with all that pressure.. ;) At least not 2012 version. lol

[cup-mikey-gertha]

Donnie. Definitely Donnie-- comics or animation verse because chess needs calculations and steps ahead of your opponent.

But, then, again Leo is the master strategist of the team... hmmm...

Maybe a tie in a game of four series. Then, stalemate if there would be a fifth deciding game.

[IndigoErth]

What will prob really happen... they'll be stuck in a stalemate for so long one of the other two will inevitably be tired of it and "accidentally" mess up their board. :P

[Warhorse]

Did you ever watch the films?

I own all of them on blu-ray, but I start to lose interest by Half Blood Prince. I think I have seen Deathly Hallows parts one and two like only twice, including the one time I went in the theater. I just think the last three movies lost the charm and charisma that the previous movies had going for it.

Donnie. Chess not only involves strategizing your own moves but calculating your opponents' moves and countering them, as well as having contingencies if one strategy doesn't work. Leo might hold his own but Donnie would win off of all those contingencies alone.

I have to ask the question then, why is Leo the leader if Donny appears to be the better strategist? I always thought Leo's thing was he was a strategist, and cool under pressure. Maybe Donny is great as a strategist, but maybe when he's using that strategy under pressure, against an opponent, he might break under the tension? Either way, it's interesting to see how much alike and how different both brothers can be in certain situations.

[Slade]

How much of a master strategist is Leo exactly???

[Warhorse]

How much of a master strategist is Leo exactly???

I thought he was supposed to be the best, it's why he's the one leading the team and not Donny.

[Slade]

I thought he was supposed to be the best, it's why he's the one leading the team and not Donny.

I mean like is he Batman level or what?

[Warhorse]

I mean like is he Batman level or what?

I couldn't tell you. But considering he is leading his brothers to over throw world wide crime lords, without the resources the Batman (Wayne Enterprises) I would say the TMNT accomplishments are more grand. At least I think so.

[Slade]

I couldn't tell you. But considering he is leading his brothers to over throw world wide crime lords, without the resources the Batman (Wayne Enterprises) I would say the TMNT accomplishments are more grand. At least I think so.

I don't think you get what I mean. Maybe?

[Warhorse]

I don't think you get what I mean. Maybe?

Well, what do you mean? I've seen this stuff on forums before, Leo vs Batman is very popular, but even then, people are torn. Batman tends to edge out Leo, just due to the shear volume of Batman fans there are over Leo, but I honestly do not know what makes Batman so great compared to Leo. Is Bruce's training more stronger than Leo's? And what are we using to compare the two? Comics, certain cartoon aspects (BAS vs 2k3?) Most would argue that Batman has a considerable edge. Some say he can take out all of the Turtles, Splinter and Shredder in one go. But how?

[Slade]

Well, what do you mean? I've seen this stuff on forums before, Leo vs Batman is very popular, but even then, people are torn. Batman tends to edge out Leo, just due to the shear volume of Batman fans there are over Leo, but I honestly do not know what makes Batman so great compared to Leo. Is Bruce's training more stronger than Leo's? And what are we using to compare the two? Comics, certain cartoon aspects (BAS vs 2k3?) Most would argue that Batman has a considerable edge. Some say he can take out all of the Turtles, Splinter and Shredder in one go. But how?

Well, the money aspect doesn't have anything to do with Bruce being a strategist. Not about their accomplishments either. Though, Bat's would far outweigh the turtles.

I just mean is Leo's startegy skill on par with Batman's. Just skill wise.

And just to answer 1 question in there, yes. Batman's training is stronger than Leo's.

[ssjup81]

I own all of them on blu-ray, but I start to lose interest by Half Blood Prince. I think I have seen Deathly Hallows parts one and two like only twice, including the one time I went in the theater. I just think the last three movies lost the charm and charisma that the previous movies had going for it.I can honestly say that I started to get that way after movie 4, and I hated movie 3.

Did you read the books before seeing the films or after?

[THGhost]

Leo's good at strategy and all, but due to his sheer intellect I would say that Donnie would win. Hands down.

Why are there people in here talking about the Harry Potter movies? :P

[Warhorse]

I can honestly say that I started to get that way after movie 4, and I hated movie 3.

Did you read the books before seeing the films or after?

Well. I honestly was not aware of Harry Potter too much when it first came out. All I know, I was at the store getting ready for the holidays, and I was looking at the movies, and this is when The Sorcerers Stone and Chamber of Secrets was out on DVD, and they looked interesting by the cover, so I bought them, thinking it might keep my guests occupied during their stay. I got into the movies immediately, and learned they were from books, so then I started to read the books there after. So, saw the first two movies prior to reading the books, and then read the books prior to the movies from POA and after. I missed the first two in the theater, but have watched every single other HP in the theater since POA. My favorite book is Goblet of Fire, my favorite movie is POA and my favorite character is Hermione. In fact, Hermione is probably one of my favorite fictional characters of all time. Faves in the fictional world usually go, Raphael, Leonardo, either Donny or Mikey depending on the incarnation, Legolas from LOTR, Bosco from Third Watch, Mulder from X Files, Sarah Connor from the Terminator flicks, HitGirl from KickAss, Hermione from Harry Potter, and Captain America is climbing up real fast. He actually passed a personal favorite of mine, ThirtyThirty from Brave Star.

[Warhorse]

Leo's good at strategy and all, but due to his sheer intellect I would say that Donnie would win. Hands down.

Why are there people in here talking about the Harry Potter movies? :P

I think I brought it up, where Hermione is the brainiac of the group, but Ron can kick her ass, and just about anybody else due to his talent with chess, and Ron isn't exactly the sharpest tack in the class.

[Refractive Reflections]

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