Do we think The Shredder's demise is near?

[nathanbofficial]

I've watched all of S2 (from what's been released) so far and you can really feel the rivalry between Splinter and the Turtles hotting up against The Shredder & The Foot clan. The last episode with all of them facing off against each other had me a little excited for some sort of war between the two camps. But I'd hate it if it were just a minor defeat again for The Shredder, I actually want to see him defeated properly this time and maybe we won't hear from him in a while.

I may be asking a lot cause I can't see it happening, but I'd love like a huge final confrontation between Splinter and The Shredder and maybe Splinter being defeated in some way, which leads the Turtles to get together and take him down. I also would love The Foot to learn of the TUrtles lair sooner or later, it would be amazing to see The Shredder enter the lair and attack in some way :D

[victory_angel]

Possibly, but I don't see the Shredder dying this season. It is more likely the Shredder may gain the upper hand, and the Turtles would be forced to take those they consider family and flee the city if they want to survive.

I would wager in the Turtles absence the Shredder would obsessively feel that his enemies are still alive and would start amassing an army of mutants as he has his followers search the city for the Turtles and their allies. Maybe capture Karai so she can be restored to human, or brainwashed in to believing it was the Turtles and Splinter who made her into what she is. And gain a stronger hold upon the city.

In the mean time the Turtles themselves are recovering from their defeat, becoming stronger warriors, and becoming a more cohesive team. One of the things Shredder really underestimates with the Turtles is the strength they have together as a family. And that is an error that will certainly cost the Shredder by the end of season three.

[TurtleTitan97]

Shredder's death probably won't happen till the final season of this show.

[Vicky82]

No can't see Shredder dying any time soon.

I do think at the end of season 3 the turtles and Shredder will fight, the turtles will defeat him and they think he's dead but he will be back sometime in season 4 more stronger.

[neatoman]

I don't about dying but I doubt he'll remain human though. Seriously, he's litaralily the only human member of the Foot Clan left, I even think he's the only human villain left.

Maybe he'll become like a shark or a dragon or a cyborg or something.

[Vicky82]

I don't about dying but I doubt he'll remain human though. Seriously, he's litaralily the only human member of the Foot Clan left, I even think he's the only human villain left.

Maybe he'll become like a shark or a dragon or a cyborg or something.

Or Super Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

I can't see them getting rid of him till the end of Season 3 at the earliest.

[Warhorse]

Yeah, they won't get rid of him till the series is almost done.

[Chris]

I could see them doing a big defeat for Shredder at the end of season 3 but then bringing him back stronger and even more lethal than ever mid/late season 4.

I certainly don't think he's going down this season. Opposite in fact, I think he's gonna decimate the guys and that's why they're gonna retreat out of the city (like in many previous versions of the franchise).

[pennydreadful]

I definitely don't want to see the Shredder killed off.

[Electric]

just from what weve seen/heard, i think shredders gonna be winning this fight.

but i get what youre saying. something is bound to happen soon. hes had so many faceoffs with the turtles and splinter after this season, its getting to a point where i dont think he can stand it.

so again, dont think itll happen just yet. i like the idea of him forming an army of the rogue mutants. but his "splinter and the turtles are still out there, and now were going to end them" is getting redundant. something needs to happen.

theres always ways to "kill him off" without actually killing him off. have them believe hes dead, super shredder, etc

[Shark_Blade]

Maybe he will be "gone" for a while.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Maybe he will be "gone" for a while.

Doing What and why?

[tylerdavies]

Possibly, but I don't see the Shredder dying this season. It is more likely the Shredder may gain the upper hand, and the Turtles would be forced to take those they consider family and flee the city if they want to survive.

I would wager in the Turtles absence the Shredder would obsessively feel that his enemies are still alive and would start amassing an army of mutants as he has his followers search the city for the Turtles and their allies. Maybe capture Karai so she can be restored to human, or brainwashed in to believing it was the Turtles and Splinter who made her into what she is. And gain a stronger hold upon the city.

In the mean time the Turtles themselves are recovering from their defeat, becoming stronger warriors, and becoming a more cohesive team. One of the things Shredder really underestimates with the Turtles is the strength they have together as a family. And that is an error that will certainly cost the Shredder by the end of season three.

That actually sounds like a really cool idea for a plot for season 3!

[MaximeLoonatic]

Doing What and why?

Perhaps he will be sent into Dimension X

[Davetello]

Hope not - this is an excellent portrayal of Shredder and the Shredder centric episodes are my favourite, generally speaking.

[snake]

That'd be cool if he was offed during the Return To New York.

[Metalwolf]

That'd be cool if he was offed during the Return To New York.But who would take his place as leader?

[TurtleTitan97]

But who would take his place as leader?

Maybe TigerClaw could do it?

[Electric]

Got an idea, kinda flawed, but I could see them doing it.

after the turtles get out of the city, shredder is pissed and decides to go after them. He leaves his henchman in New York telling them to be on alert if the turtles come back.

Now here's where bebop and rocksteady could come in. Shredder could either go to steranko to get equipment or weapons to hunt the turtles, and sternanko and bebop (forget his name) try to steal the helmet while he's there, leading to mutating. Or they could just go after him with the same result

[nellyp]

Got an idea, kinda flawed, but I could see them doing it.

after the turtles get out of the city, shredder is pissed and decides to go after them. He leaves his henchman in New York telling them to be on alert if the turtles come back.

Now here's where bebop and rocksteady could come in. Shredder could either go to steranko to get equipment or weapons to hunt the turtles, and sternanko and bebop (forget his name) try to steal the helmet while he's there, leading to mutating. Or they could just go after him with the same result

I believe his name is Anton Zeck. So looking at the Rocksteady figure in the works is Steranko going to be him or another unannounced character?

Edit: After reading more on his bio on TMNTpedia the fact that he has gold gauntlets on means that he is definitely going to be Rocksteady as the figure features those same gauntlets. Other than that I don't see the resemblance :P

[MikeandRaph87]

I hope Shredder is here to stay through the series finale. When Shredder is supposedly defeated for good the series whatever it is taken a serious nose dive in quality and personal interest. I hope Nick/IDW realize that. I know a few will disagree but that is my take.

[drgon78]

Just because the quality went down for the 2003 series, doesn't mean that will be an issue with this one. So I would be fine if they defeated Shredder once and for all, long before the series ends.

[Foombamaroom]

No can't see Shredder dying any time soon.

I do think at the end of season 3 the turtles and Shredder will fight, the turtles will defeat him and they think he's dead but he will be back sometime in season 4 more stronger. I think that's gonna be the Season 3 finale, too. I don't think they'll kill him off, but they'll probably defeat him and we won't see him for a season or so.

Hope not - this is an excellent portrayal of Shredder and the Shredder centric episodes are my favourite, generally speaking. Same. They just need more development for him.

I honestly could see them killing Shredder in the season 3 finale. I kind of want them to kill off the Kraang, or at least make sure they can't get out of Dimension X ever again. The Kraang arc is getting old and I want more Shredder. Let's say there are 7 seasons of the show, Shredder will undoubtably make it until season 5 minimum. The way I think of it is this: If they don't kill him off in the Season 3 finale, they aren't gonna kill him off for a while.

[Davetello]

I think that's gonna be the Season 3 finale, too. I don't think they'll kill him off, but they'll probably defeat him and we won't see him for a season or so.

Same. They just need more development for him.

I honestly could see them killing Shredder in the season 3 finale. I kind of want them to kill off the Kraang, or at least make sure they can't get out of Dimension X ever again. The Kraang arc is getting old and I want more Shredder. Let's say there are 7 seasons of the show, Shredder will undoubtably make it until season 5 minimum. The way I think of it is this: If they don't kill him off in the Season 3 finale, they aren't gonna kill him off for a while.

Yeah, I feel similarly about the Kraang mate. That stuff is starting to get tiring, you're right. In all honesty I'm not sure the show can maintain quality if Shredder is killed off.

But yes, the turtles might think they have killed him at some stage. That's happened in many other iterations after all.

[Foombamaroom]

Yeah, I feel similarly about the Kraang mate. That stuff is starting to get tiring, you're right. In all honesty I'm not sure the show can maintain quality if Shredder is killed off.

But yes, the turtles might think they have killed him at some stage. That's happened in many other iterations after all.

This version of Shredder is my favorite, so I'd love to see more of him. Hopefully the season 2 finale will take out the Kraang once and for all.

[shredder orokusaki]

They will never defeat me. They never did in the OT and in the 2003 series only at the end of it in the turtle forever movie they managed to defeat me. But not this time. I am much more powerful than the turtles and they know that they can not continue espcape from me!! I will kill them very soon!!

[Foombamaroom]

They will never defeat me. They never did in the OT and in the 2003 series only at the end of it in the turtle forever movie they managed to defeat me. But not this time. I am much more powerful than the turtles and they know that they can not continue espcape from me!! I will kill them very soon!!

They gon' GET YA.

[Leofan26]

Nah, I don't see yet. They've been too much on the Kraang in both seasons with few episodes of Shredder, I want them dead in the season two final. Than season four should focus on the defeat of Shredder and his team.

[TMNTFan9000]

If they were to kill Shredder off I would say pull something Transformers Prime did with Megatron and have the most unlikely person kill him off. Mainly because a lot of people would expect it to be Leo or Splinter maybe Karai if we're stretching it too kill him off but make it someone nobody expected like what Prime did with Bumblebee. Maybe Mikey since he's the innocent of the group similar to Bumblebee was to the Autobots. I don't know just something that would be interesting to change it up.

[kolaida]

I really hope they don't. I don't have much sympathy for him, but I love how much he messes with Splinter, the turtles, and Karai's mind. I mean, the dude's pretty messed up on multiple levels and would need years of therapy to be half way right in the head. As someone else pointed out, the episodes with him being a major focus tend to be some of the most intense ones and more fun to watch. I hope he sticks around.

[Metalwolf]

I can see him dying at series finale, but not any time before that. More then likely it will be done in a 3-4 episode arc and in such a way that you can see it is definitively lethal.

It will probably be at the end of Season 4 (the series' final season) and we might have some buildup to the end.

[CyberCubed]

The Turtles can't even fight Shredder. I wonder when they'll stop having Splinter fight him all the time and let the Turtles fight him.

[Kilowog]

I dont see him dying, but I DEFINITELY see him getting a major ass kicking once the TMNT return to New York. Tradition and whatnot

[snake]

They will never defeat me. They never did in the OT and in the 2003 series only at the end of it in the turtle forever movie they managed to defeat me. But not this time. I am much more powerful than the turtles and they know that they can not continue espcape from me!! I will kill them very soon!!

If you're Shredder, how do you watch turtles shows or post on a forum about one?