CBS/CW's Supergirl Series

[TigerClaw]

a Supergirl TV Series is in the works by DC Entertainment
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=122613

[Raph's Girl]

Yep and it won't be on CW Network as they turned it down!

[CyberCubed]

As long as she wears a short skirt and is a 18 year old blonde with at least B cup breasts I'm down.

[Cure]

Well. This got weird reeeeeeeal quick.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

As long as she wears a short skirt and is a 18 year old blonde with at least B cup breasts I'm down.

That's... oddly specific.

[TurtleTitan97]

As long as she wears a short skirt and is a 18 year old blonde with at least B cup breasts I'm down.

You are a very strange man, you know that right?

I mean really, who the heck cares about stuff like that.

[Davetello]

I think he's being sarcastic - lamenting the fact that certain characters in fiction are stereotyped in the same way i.e. in this case, a 'super girl' has to be blonde, scantily clad, big-breasted and in her teenage years.

[Cure]

You have not read enough of his posts. He never uses sarcasm and has been perverted before.

[chrisdude]

The key thing to note is that it's just being pitched. Lots if things get pitched.

But no, not interested.

[Leo656]

Could be good. They just need to stay away from the New 52 costume, and basically anything having to do with "Modern" Kara from the last ten years. She's just been portrayed as SO goddamn bitchy and unlikable ever since they brought her back in Superman/Batman. I like the "teen 'outsider' chick trying to find herself on a world she knows nothing about" angle the comics try to play with, but they take it so far all the time that it's like she hates everyone and would be better off as a super-villain. They need to tone that way the hell down. Especially for a TV show, they can't expect it to last if they have a completely unlikable protagonist. A little teenage alienation is one thing, but she can't just be a whiny bitch.

I'unno, we'll see. Supergirl's an even harder sell than Wonder Woman.

[BabyTurtles]

As long as she wears a short skirt and is a 18 year old blonde with at least B cup breasts I'm down.

I want her to have a skirt with leggings...be a 15 year old...with redish blonde hair...with no more than a A cup :D

[Slade]

Not hyped, but I guess I'd check it out

[Candy Kappa]

As long as she wears a short skirt and is a 18 year old blonde with at least B cup breasts I'm down.

Yeah, screw character development and motivation. T&A is the way.

[ToTheNines]

Please ban him. Please.

Anyways... I think Kara is a decent character, but why do they keep making these shows that are gonna constantly keep the main hero at arms length?

[ZariusTwo]

I demand Streaky and the horse.

[pharaohyami5000]

Sure. I'm all for it. It's always good to see more female protagonists become more focused.

Hope it won't end up like Birds of Prey, which I have not seen yet, but thought of giving that a try to see how it could be worse like most people say.

[chrisdude]

Sure. I'm all for it. It's always good to see more female protagonists become more focused.

Hope it won't end up like Birds of Prey, which I have not seen yet, but thought of giving that a try to see how it could be worse like most people say.I bought the series and only made it three episodes in...

[JakeSully]

I hope she is hot

[sdp]

First I hear of this, I'm all in for a Supergirl show but would it be in continuity with the new movies? Or be in continuity with the other live action DC shows? We live in a post-Avengers world and having a bunch of DC heroes around on TV and movies with references to a larger DC universe but not in continuity with each other is just stupid. And while I liked Smallville, we don't need another smallville, I don't know this doesn't sound like it'll be something that gets off the ground.

[chrisdude]

First I hear of this, I'm all in for a Supergirl show but would it be in continuity with the new movies? Or be in continuity with the other live action DC shows? We live in a post-Avengers world and having a bunch of DC heroes around on TV and movies with references to a larger DC universe but not in continuity with each other is just stupid. And while I liked Smallville, we don't need another smallville, I don't know this doesn't sound like it'll be something that gets off the ground.I agree. While I don't feel like a connected universe is better by default, or that DC necessarily needs to do what Marvel did, it sure is freaking weird that they've got Gotham on a separate network from Arrow and Flash, and that none of these shows seem to connect to the movies. On top of the fact that Batman v Superman looks thrown together, DC/WB just doesn't look like they know what they're doing, right now...

I'm no expert, and I'm sure the people in charge did their homework, but I can't imagine Gotham being successful. I just can't.

[Warhorse]

That's... oddly specific.

Or pathetic.

[Leofan26]

I wanted to find out more information on the series and instead this thread turns into an Anime forums with guy's wanting to see more fan service :lol:

I'm not a big Super Girl fan, was really surprised that she's getting her own show. How popular is she in the DC Fandom?

[sdp]

It's just with such great live action versions of Green Arrow and The Flash, I just can't see myself liking new versions of those characters and being happy, since they have pretty big shoes to fill. The "Bat embargo" the animated shows had in the early 2000's makes plenty of sense for live action in a post-avengers world. Gotham being a prequel and Batman being old in the new continuity means there won't be many problems but this would have to take place after Man of Steel. A Supergirl show would be awesome but if it's a Smallville esque show then I wouldn't be a fan since that's already been done.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm not a big Super Girl fan, was really surprised that she's getting her own show. How popular is she in the DC Fandom?

She's pretty much one of the most iconic female superheroes in the DC universe, up there with Wonder Woman and Batgirl (Barbara Gordon).

[Raph's Girl]

Looks like this'll be on CBS. Comic books have gotten all the major networks now.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/09/19/supergirl-dc-comics-cbs/15882425/

[TigerClaw]

Looks like this'll be on CBS. Comic books have gotten all the major networks now.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/09/19/supergirl-dc-comics-cbs/15882425/
Yep, So far we got ABC with Agents of Shield, Fox with Gotham, NBC with Constantine, CW with Arrow and the Flash, and now CBS with Supergirl.

[Raph's Girl]

Character descriptions are now out for 2 characters:

Kara's surname is Danvers (Linda as a first name??):
She’ll be 24 years old on the show, and they’re casting 22 to 26 year-old caucasian women. The Danvers family “taught her to be careful with her extraordinary powers,” according to the casting notice, and after repressing them for half her life she is, according to TVLine, “forced to bust out her super moves in public during an unexpected disaster.” That causes her to decide to start superheroing on a regular basis.

Also to be cast is an adopted older sister named Alexandra Danvers, age 26.
Described as “gorgeous, brilliant,” and “science-minded.” Alex studies all she can about Kara and her alien origins and in the show “works for a secret government organization.”

http://www.newsarama.com/22596-supergirl-on-cbs-casting-info-reveals-90s-influenced-name-more.html

[Leo656]

Hm.

My favorite Supergirl was the one from Peter David's run, so they could do worse than borrowing from that one. That was one of the most criminally underrated books of the last 20 years. Supergirl really hasn't been done very well ever since they fell back on the tried and true "Kara Zor-El" model and decided to "modernize" it by making her completely whiny, bitchy, and unlikable, which for some reason, going on about ten years later, has stuck.

I'm a big fan of the character but haven't seen much I like with the character since David's version was cancelled. If this new show borrows from and condenses parts from some of the different versions, I might be able to get into that.

We shall see.

[ToTheNines]

Kara Danvers? Seriously?

[Shred Head]

Danvers so there going to try keep Superman out for awhile by mixing in some of the Linda Danvers stuff with Kara ok I can see that. Also way to give marvel the big middle finger in using the name Danvers first before Captain Marvel comes out. I mean lets face it that's the reason they named her Danvers they easily could have used the name Starr and had the older sister be Karen. Actually I kinda wished they did that would have been awesome to get a live action Power Girl.

[Raph's Girl]

More casting call info! Looks like they don't care what Jimmy Olsen looks like as he and Cat Grant are "Open ethnicity". And OF COURSE Toy Man lives next door! :trolleye:

CAT GRANT | The project is eyeing females in their 40s, open ethnicity, to play the founder of CatCo, a media conglomerate that Cat built from the ground up. Kara (Supergirl’s mild-mannered alter ego) will work as a personal assistant to Cat, who is described as “J.Lo by way of Anna Wintour.”

JAMES OLSEN | In his late 20s/early 30s, open ethnicity, James is a smart, worldly and (duh) attractive photographer for CatCo. Though an alpha male, his salt-of-the-earth nature elicits a huge ol’ crush from Kara.

WINSLOW ‘WYNN’ SCHOTT | This twentysomething tech whiz/Comic-Con stalwart toils for CatCo as a programmer, unaware of his own (toying?) potential. Unware of her secret, he carries a torch for Kara, whom he lives next door to.

HANK HENSHAW | As an upstart CIA agent, Hank grew obsessed with intergalactic intel. Now in his 40s and lording over the DEO (Department of Extra-Normal Operations), he is on high alert when Supergirl reveals herself, worried that her otherworldly abilities pose a threat to humankind.

http://comicbook.com/2014/10/31/supergirl-casting-for-jimmy-olsen-cyborg-superman-and-more/

[TurtleTitan97]

Supergirl MAY possible take place in the same universe as Arrow & Flash: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=111617

[Raph's Girl]

Supergirl MAY possible take place in the same universe as Arrow & Flash: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=111617

And with the LA Teen Titans airing on a sister station of CW Network... crossovers ahoy! :D

[TurtleTitan97]

Claire Holt is reportedly in the running for the role of Supergirl: http://comicbook.com/2014/12/02/supergirl-considering-vampire-diaries-star-for-lead-role/

[TurtleTitan97]

Melissa Benoist has been casted to play Supergirl: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114043

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Huh. They're actually going forward with this.

This could be an interesting show.

[Netkeeper]

This sounds cool, and a cute casting choice!

[Raph's Girl]

Melissa Benoist has been casted to play Supergirl: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114043

Well if anything Melissa could sing the show's theme song. She's a good actress and from her experience in Glee she certainly knows how to play an outcast.

[TurtleTitan97]

Mehcad Brooks has been cast to play Jimmy Olsen: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114493

[ToTheNines]

Lmaooo.

Dude is fugging ripped... And he's Jimmy Olson? Ok guys!

[BabyTurtles]

Mehcad Brooks has been cast to play Jimmy Olsen: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114493

1) Before I even clicked the link I knew Jimmy was gonna be black. (I felt the race change a mile away! aha! I'm finally ahead!)

2) and dang, I don't remember Jimmy being hot? :D
http://media1.onsugar.com/files/2013/11/05/029/n/3019466/12fabf911002a67a_swoon.gif

so is Jimmy gonna be the Lois Lane for Supergirl or??

[NinjaPug]

Weird casting. Dude looks more like Superman instead of Jimmy Olsen.

[Raph's Girl]

so is Jimmy gonna be the Lois Lane for Supergirl or??

I was hoping for an Asian Jimmy but Mechad is cute enough to suit me. :P

As for Jimmy being Kara's lois...um...well it's a bit of a love triangle as Winslow Schott/Toyman has a thing for her. Winslow is her neighbor and they all work for Cat Grant.

[BabyTurtles]

I was hoping for an Asian Jimmy but Mechad is cute enough to suit me. :P

As for Jimmy being Kara's lois...um...well it's a bit of a love triangle as Winslow Schott/Toyman has a thing for her. Winslow is her neighbor and they all work for Cat Grant.

Wait isn't Toyman evil?

so Toyman likes Kara and Kara likes Jimmy?.....or does Jimmy like Kara??

I need to get this cleared up....

[Raph's Girl]

Wait isn't Toyman evil?

so Toyman likes Kara and Kara likes Jimmy?.....or does Jimmy like Kara??

I need to get this cleared up....

Jimmy and Toyman both like Kara who is totally oblivious to it all.

[BabyTurtles]

Jimmy and Toyman both like Kara who is totally oblivious to it all.

Okay gotcha! :D

[TurtleTitan97]

So apparently, the first villain Supergirl is going to fight is a guy called "Lumberjack", whose ONLY appearance in the comics was in a Wonder Woman issue from 1980. Seriously: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=114609

So out of all the countless villains that have fought Supergirl in the past, the first person they decide to make her go against is some guy who no one has even heard of, or who isn't even a major character. Talk about lame. :roll:

[CyberCubed]

Probably because they want to avoid using Superman's rogue gallery, at least at first.

[Cure]

Probably because they want to avoid using Superman's rogue gallery, at least at first.

Yeah, seriously. It makes perfect sense. Build up, man. Start low, finish high.

[Leo656]

Supergirl also has a really sh*tty rogues gallery of her own once you take out all the Superman villains. I couldn't even think of any of her enemies off the top of my head, I had to check Wikipedia, and even then I only recognized like, three names: Reactron, Buzz, from Peter David's run (which is DEFINITELY the best version of Supergirl that's ever been or ever will be presented), and Superwoman.

Buzz is more or less a literal demon from hell, and Superwoman was Lois Lane's sister Lucy given artificial superpowers by her father so she could work as an anti-Kryptonian agent for the U.S. gov't. I doubt this show is going to want to explore either of those backstories. So that leaves Reactron, a soldier powered by radiation and Gold Kryptonite. I guess that could work.

Supergirl has always worked better as an idea than as an actual character. Nobody but David ever explored her in any significant way past simply being "Superman With Breasts", and to do that, he essentially created a completely different character with completely different powers than the traditionally-known "Superman's Cousin " version. Ironically, it was the only time the character was ever even moderately interesting, but it was scrapped for low sales and they went back to the Kara Zor-El version, only "modernized" by being a whiny, insecure, unlikable brat. Hopefully they won't borrow too much from THAT version for the show.

Every time the character gets any momentum going, the book gets cancelled for not selling. Because of that, they've never really given her much in the way of interesting villains. That definitely gives the people behind the show room to try and create their own, but then you have the risk of whether or not comics fans will stay engaged without a steady flow of villains that they recognize.

Basically, the strongest (and oddly enough, recurring) plotline in most Supergirl comics has historically been whether or not she was ever going to f*ck her magic horse. That's seriously been a bigger part of her story than who she ever fought. Let's hope the show doesn't recycle THAT storyline. :lol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Supergirl also has a really sh*tty rogues gallery of her own once you take out all the Superman villains. I couldn't even think of any of her enemies off the top of my head, I had to check Wikipedia, and even then I only recognized like, three names: Reactron, Buzz, from Peter David's run (which is DEFINITELY the best version of Supergirl that's ever been or ever will be presented), and Superwoman.

Supergirl has always worked better as an idea than as an actual character. Nobody but David ever explored her in any significant way past simply being "Superman With Breasts", and to do that, he essentially created a completely different character with completely different powers than the traditionally-known "Superman's Cousin " version. Ironically, it was the only time the character was ever even moderately interesting, but it was scrapped for low sales and they went back to the Kara Zor-El version, only "modernized" by being a whiny, insecure, unlikable brat. Hopefully they won't borrow too much from THAT version for the show.


You just said the magic words, my friend- Peter David. Damn, I didn't even remember he'd ever done her (wait, that sounded wrong) uh, book, but now I may have to find a few issues of that run, just because I LOVE everything else I've seen of his. Might actually find myself liking a DC character again!

As for the show.... Yeah, I don't see this working any better than the movie did.

[Leo656]

He did the entire run of Vol. 4 from 1996 to 2003, 81 issues.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergirl_(Linda_Danvers)

Full disclosure: The entire run has a TON of very literal God/Devil - Heaven/Hell stuff in it (several of the villains are literally Hell's demons, while Supergirl herself for part of the run is an Earth-Born Angel of Fire), which may be off-putting to some, but as an open-minded pretty-much-atheist (although who knows?) who simply enjoys well-written super-hero fiction, I thought it was f***ing AMAZING. Especially the powerful, recurrent themes of faith, family, struggling to find one's own identity, failure to live up to ideals, and most prominently, redemption. And it's not preachy or anything, not in the least.

Even if someone is a non-believer, that should NOT put anyone off from reading this series. There has never been a better version of Supergirl as her own fully-formed character, and probably never will be. The entire thing is one long, fluid story, so just a few issues won't make any sense, you totally have to read the entire thing from beginning to end. The ending is kind of abrupt due to it being cancelled out of nowhere, but even the final arc could bring a tear to a glass eye.

HIGHEST possible recommendation. Seriously.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Sounds interesting, may have to check it out. And I've never had a problem with those kinds of themes, which is kinda ironic, seeing that I'm totally pagan. I love that stuff, actually, especially when it's not preachy. Heavy theological and philosophical material that has layers of depth or just plain makes you think is great, no matter what the source material. I loved Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series for much the same reason- good and evil, heaven and hell, morality, redemption, the meaning/purpose/definition of sin, the works. And God became a woman..... (spoiler alert!!) Sorry, had to throw that in there. :trazz::twink:

[Leo656]

Just reading that Wikipedia article I linked to has me drooling to get my comics out of storage and do a marathon run of the entire series again.

Truth? I have never NOT cried while reading the last issue. Seriously.

[TurtleTitan97]

Yeah, seriously. It makes perfect sense. Build up, man. Start low, finish high.

If that's the case, why not use someone who's actually fought Superman in the past and isn't a one off character like Lumberjack? Technically speaking this guy could be considered a Wonder Woman villian since he debuted in her comic.

I'm not asking for villians on the same level of Braniac or Darkseid to appear in the first episode, but someone like Parasite or Livewire would have been much better.

[Raph's Girl]

Well here's something... Callista Flockhart has been cast as Cat Grant! I was expecting somebody with a little more up front, instead it's somebody with less! :lol:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news/calista-flockhart-joins-supergirl-as-cat-grant/

Also, Laura Benanti has been cast as Kara's mom, Alura. This is a recurring role as Alura will be Kara's guiding ghost thing like Jor El has been at times with Clark. I like this idea as her parents have mostly been essentially background noise in the past.

http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/411951-laura-benanti-to-play-supergirls-kryptonian-mother

[Raph's Girl]

Apparantly casting calls have gone out now for somebody to play Superman (it'll probably be just a cameo but still). Also the casting calls are looking for twins (Wonder Twins?!).

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news/is-supergirl-seeking-superman/

[TurtleTitan97]

Hank Henshaw (known in the comics as Cyborg Superman) & Alex Danvers have been casted: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=115893

[TigerClaw]

First images of Melissa Benoist in the Supergirl costume.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=116265

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/03-MAR/SGBodyLR_54fa0dfae2f1a5.74310854.jpg

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/03-MAR/SGHeadLR_54fa0da2bf2258.60439665.jpg

[Raph's Girl]

I like it. Pretty standard costume.

[TurtleTitan97]

First images of Melissa Benoist in the Supergirl costume.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=116265

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/03-MAR/SGBodyLR_54fa0dfae2f1a5.74310854.jpg

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/03-MAR/SGHeadLR_54fa0da2bf2258.60439665.jpg

Wow, it actually looks pretty great.

I just hope the show is good.

[CyberCubed]

Its too bad she's wearing stockings and not showing off leg, but otherwise its fine. I'm surprised its so dark though, like in Man of Steel. It should be bright blue

[Krutch]

I'm surprised its so dark though, like in Man of Steel. It should be bright blue

Really? You're surprised? Have you not been looking at any live DC adaptation post Smallville? Color is the enemy!

[sdp]

I think this is really cool that it's happening but I have no idea how they'll make this show work. There's a Superman in this universe but won't be on the show and we know this isn't in the movie continuity and with any hope it's in the Arrowverse but still.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Ew

It looks like Man of Steel.

I guess I was hoping that they'd try to use some color in this series, but I guess they decided against it. What a shame.

[Spike Spiegel]

First images of Melissa Benoist in the Supergirl costume.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=116265

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/03-MAR/SGBodyLR_54fa0dfae2f1a5.74310854.jpg

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/03-MAR/SGHeadLR_54fa0da2bf2258.60439665.jpg

She looks a little too prissy for me. And the high boots give me a slight loli vibe. Is she going be dressed like this in the first episode? It's like Dean Cain in Lois and Clark all over again.

But it does look like they are handling the character seriously.

[TurtleTitan97]

Malina Weissman, who played a young April O'Neil in TMNT(2014), has been cast to play a younger Supergirl: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-casts-young-supergirl-779887

Also some set photos from the pilot: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=116418

[ProactiveMan]

I like it - muted colour aside she looks like classic Supergirl.

[Raph's Girl]

Aaaand Supergirl has been given a series order!! So next week we'll be seeing the trailer for it and stuff! Fun!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/06/supergirl

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Aaaand Supergirl has been given a series order!! So next week we'll be seeing the trailer for it and stuff! Fun!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/06/supergirl

Next week, huh? Okay... next week we'll see if they can make me excited for this. I like the idea, but the actress does not look the part to me at all. Too... I guess she looks like an 80's sitcom babysitter to me. Too nice, too naive. No edge.

[TurtleTitan97]

Aaaand Supergirl has been given a series order!! So next week we'll be seeing the trailer for it and stuff! Fun!

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/06/supergirl

Can't wait.

[TurtleTitan97]

New images, including two official images.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE5BBy0W8AAbBgw.png:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE48GXjWgAEbprv.jpg:large

http://www.supergirl.tv/images/1stcatgrant.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I still think she looks like an 80's sitcom babysitter to me. Too nice, too naive. No edge.

My opinion can only be changed by a trailer... when do we get to see her in action?

Oh, and the police procedural thing... HUGELY skeptical regarding that.

[TurtleTitan97]

Here's the trailer:

Lm46-envrHo

[Autbot_Benz]

Here's the trailer:

Lm46-envrHo

Is this Supergirl or some dumb girl sitcom/sex and the city show

[Raph's Girl]

Soo... Jimmy is essentially sent to this new city by Superman to watch over Kara. Okee doke. Also, GAH Cat Grant is such a biatch!! I wonder tho who they cast as Superman since we see him in silouhete and far away shots.

[Raph's Girl]

A thought occured to me. Aren't Helen Slater and Dean Cain supposed to be in this show? At first I didn't see them in the trailer. Then I rewatched it and BAM! It was a blink and you miss it moment 27 sec in during Kara viewing her life so far. I think, not sure tho, that Helen and Dean are her earth parents!!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/HelenDean_zpsgf2nvux8.jpg

[MutantBear]

Wait... this is a CBS show? What happened to CW? Sorry, probably missed a lot of news.

And the trailer, the trailer isn't that bad. Looks like it has a higher budget then some of CWs stuff. Although, it is a lot like a sit com. They have the one snobby boss, the sister who believes in her, etc. I'm hope they can live up to its name.

[Raph's Girl]

Wait... this is a CBS show? What happened to CW? Sorry, probably missed a lot of news.

CBS picked up Supergirl instead of CW. CBS is a mother station for CW so there could still be a possible crossover with Arrow, Flash, Vixen, and Legends of Tomorrow. Altho in the regular Arrow-verse shows they don't seem to be familiar with powered people while in Supergirl they seem to be well enough known that there's an org to study them and stuff. Plus, Superman is already well established.

[Leo656]

Looks better than I thought it'd be. I actually like her as Supergirl a good bit, now that I'm seeing her in action. I'm hoping she can elevate the show above the rest of the cast, because honestly, I'm really not in love with everybody else. Other than her, I think the show's pretty miscast. And it still looks way more CW than CBS, but I guess for a show with a female protagonist aimed at a teen-ish audience that kind of goes with the territory. It's okay. A few spots made me laugh. And it doesn't look cheap or poor, so that's good.

Although if they're going to do a thing where they constantly tease Superman and we only see him in brief glimpses or flashback snippets, that's gonna get super-annoying. I get how he has to be established for the sake of the pilot, but if he's not going to be IN the show for a long time they should only reference him sparingly going forward. Otherwise it'll feel like a cheap tease. I'm sure he'll show up eventually, but they need to build it the right way.

[Jephael]

Gotta be honest, I'd rather this be the theatrical universe's interpretation of the character. Dunno if it's gonna work as a TV show, though they could prove me wrong.

[TurtleTitan97]

New trailer: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=120547

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wow. The Devil Wears Prada meets Man of Steel.

Not watching this.

In other news, Daredevil is badass.

[plastroncafe]

Kind of looks adorable, but...I am so not loving that "-girl" explanation.

[CyberCubed]

Well they have the actress in skimpy outfits, that's probably the only reason to watch. Nah, scratch that, I'll just watch youtube clips of the shows best moments and skip the rest.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well they have the actress in skimpy outfits, that's probably the only reason to watch. Nah, scratch that, I'll just watch youtube clips of the shows best moments and skip the rest.

Dude, you're gonna miss out on all the feelings.

SO MANY FEELINGS.

[TurtleTitan97]

Well they have the actress in skimpy outfits, that's probably the only reason to watch. Nah, scratch that, I'll just watch youtube clips of the shows best moments and skip the rest.

Way to sound like a total pervert, dude.

[ZariusTwo]

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The only way I will watch this now is if it crosses over with Flash or Arrow. That will force my hand.

But this looks like Man of Steel and Devil of Prada had a baby. A very ugly baby.

[plastroncafe]

That's okay, it's not really meant for you anyway.

Honestly, it looks like Smallville to me.

[Candy Kappa]

I love every bit of the trailers.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That's okay, it's not really meant for you anyway.

Honestly, it looks like Smallville to me.

Yeah, I think you're right... I'm disappointed, but if I hear enough of you guys preaching its virtues, I may give it a try.

But this... am I essentially correct when I hypothesize that this is aimed at an audience consisting of teenage or college girls who aren't overly familiar with the character of Supergirl? I'm not trying to be offensive, this is an honest question. Because the trailer has the same feel and dialogue as pretty much every "chick-flick" I've watched with my wife.

[Raph's Girl]

Looks like i was right about Helen Slater and Dean Cain being the Danvers'!! Also, something I didn't catch in the initial trailer is that it was Superman who found Kara when her ship crashed and he gave her to the Danvers'.

http://www.supergirl.tv/images/supermancraft.jpg
http://www.supergirl.tv/images/arrivalatdanvers.jpg

http://www.supergirl.tv/dean-helen-superman-in-trailer

[Jephael]

That's okay, it's not really meant for you anyway.

Honestly, it looks like Smallville to me.

Yea, if they actually had Clark fly around and wear the costume.

[CyberCubed]

Its basically going to be a chick show, that much is obvious. That being said I'll youtube the action scenes or the "fanservice" moments. Otherwise its one of those shows a guy would only watch if his girlfriend/wife asks him to watch with her.

[Cure]

I'll give it a shot. Could be good.

[ZariusTwo]

Otherwise its one of those shows a guy would only watch if his girlfriend/wife asks him to watch with her.

Complete horses*it from you as usual.

[TurtleTitan97]

Its basically going to be a chick show, that much is obvious. That being said I'll youtube the action scenes or the "fanservice" moments.

Seriously, you're only embarrassing yourself at this point.

[CyberCubed]

You can tell from the tone and scenes from the trailer what kind of show this will be. If its your thing, sure it can be enjoyable.

[Jephael]

Its basically going to be a chick show, that much is obvious. That being said I'll youtube the action scenes or the "fanservice" moments. Otherwise its one of those shows a guy would only watch if his girlfriend/wife asks him to watch with her.

Do you feel good about yourself when you make those kinda single-minded statements?

[plastroncafe]

So long as you're a chick, or you're watching because your chick S.O. is in the room. Otherwise someone is going to question your masculinity.

It's a shame that guys are told they can't identify with female characters.

[CyberCubed]

Buffy the Vampire Slayer was one of my favorite shows, and it starred a female. This doesn't look the same in tone.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

I honestly don't disagree with CyberCubed here. He's not saying it won't be good, but the target audience is obvious. What I'm confused about is why this won't be a CW show, I thought they had the rights to all DC characters?

[plastroncafe]

What he's implying is that shows with a target female audience are "Less Than" shows aiming for a male demographic. And that the only way a man/boy would lower himself to watch a show like this is if forced to by their female significant others.

This not being someone thing because they're not interested in the tone?
Fine. Go thy own way, my friend. Lord knows I gave up on Smallville because it got way too soapy for my taste.

He's gender policing, and it's obnoxious.
Made more so by his use of "female" in place of "woman," and his previous comments about perving on the actress in the lead role.

As the song goes:
It's okay to not like things, but don't be a douche about it.

[Raph's Girl]

What I'm confused about is why this won't be a CW show, I thought they had the rights to all DC characters?

The CW Network is the offspring of CBS Corp and Time Warner. So any DC character show can air on CW, CBS, TNT, Showtime, TBS, HBO, Cartoon Network, TCM, ect...

[ZariusTwo]

The pilot leaked last night. Currently downloading it, feedback seems positive from what I've read so far.

It only takes her ten minutes to fly, as opposed to Smallville's ten years:lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

I just finished watching it. It was actually pretty good, much better than the trailers made it out to be. Just like Grant Gustin did with Flash, Melissa Benoist did a great job as Supergirl. I definitely think the show has potential to be just as good as The Flash. Even the special effects were pretty great.

Still not sure if I can ever get use to Mehcad Brooks as Jimmy Olsen, though.

[Jephael]

It's a shame that guys are told they can't identify with female characters.

and vice versa...

[Raph's Girl]

After watching it I have to say it's better than I thought it would be.


1: The Danvers' are scientists who helped Superman when he was first starting out.

2: Kara was stuck in the phantom zone for years and accidentally released the phantom zone prison, Ft. Roz/Ross, when she got out.

3: Alura was a judge I guess on Krypton and all the prisoners are now pissy and gonna be after Kara.

4: Of COURSE Alura has an evil sister...who's now leader of the bad guys! :roll:

[PangolinFeets]

I might give this a shot, but I honestly can't get into any of these DC shows. That includes Arrow, Flash, Smallville, Gotham, etc. I don't really know why.

[Jephael]

I enjoyed the hell out of Smallville! If anything it's my favorite live action incarnation of the DC world. Sure it had its flaws, but the storytelling was pretty good in my honest opinion.

[Leo656]

Oh my GOD. I know it's an opinion, but oh my God, man. Every single character on Smallville was just, the biggest idiot ever. NONE of the stories work UNLESS every single person involved is an idiot. I mean, forget staying true to the source material, that show was embarrassed to even be anything even resembling a Superman show, which always made me question WHY they even bothered making it in the first place... but no, forget that. And forget how "Clark" is the whiniest, bitchiest, snottiest little jackass who makes EVERY bad decision possible, and then does it AGAIN and AGAIN... and how every single person looooves Lana to death, despite the fact that she's an awful person who treats people horribly... and then how when they DO bother to put in stuff from the comics, like Doomsday, they do it sooooooooo BADLY, that...

......Y'know what? NO, DON'T forget all that. *I* can't forget about it, so nobody else gets to forget, either! I've seen WAY more of that show than I ever wanted to, and as an irrationally devoted Superman fan, I gotta say, "It's flawed" doesn't come CLOSE to covering it. That show, is nothing but the prettiest, shiniest turd in the entire DC/WB pantheon. Poorly written, poorly paced, poorly acted, went on FOREVER despite nobody really caring past Season 4, and embarrassed by its own source material. I wish I could hate it right out of existence.

I could write a book. A BOOK. About JUST that one show and how aaaaaawwwwwwful it is.

You're entitled to your opinion, but man, I just don't get it. I mean, I'm pretty sure some channels still show reruns of the Mary Tyler Moore show. Even Cagney and Lacey. I mean, the A-Team is always on SOMEwhere. ANYTHING but Smallville. Nobody should ever watch Smallville. C'mon, man. :lol:
---------------------------------------

I didn't catch the Supergirl pilot but I'm sure I'll see it. This "Jimmy Olsen" is just the worst kind of stunt casting, though. I mean all the way through to having a completely different personality, it's pretty clearly "Jimmy" in name only. Same with Flockheart playing Cat Grant/Anna Wintour. I hate when they do stuff like that. That's not who those characters are or how they act, just stick different names on them if you're going out of your way to be different. Looks are one thing, but when you then go so far as to completely change a character's personality and/or history, it's no longer the same character.

But it *looks* good and that's gonna carry it far. I was kinda thinking since it was "just Supergirl" they'd go cheap on it, but it looks like it cost a decent amount of money. That'll help.

[ZariusTwo]

Smallville had a decent enough Lois/Clark angle, and that always does it for me in Supe shows. What got me was by the time he got stared as Superman, he'd only went and beaten everyone. Good thing the comic continuation managed to work in a few extra things, including a Crisis!

On to the pilot of Supergirl:

Outside of a few extra surprises and some bonus padding, the whole thing is basically the trailer. I'm going to enjoy Jimmy being one of the Superfriends (and yes, we're going to call them that whether you like it or not Kara). I thought the way Henshaw's men brought Kara in was harsh (Kryptonite tags), but understandable given his trust issues. I was also most impressed with how much they did'nt hold back on the man-on-woman violence in the action sequences with Kara getting her tail kicked and vice versa for the Roz prisoner. Top notch stuff

[Raph's Girl]

This "Jimmy Olsen" is just the worst kind of stunt casting, though. I mean all the way through to having a completely different personality, it's pretty clearly "Jimmy" in name only.

Well at least this is actually Jimmy instead of the fake Jimmy we got in Smallville. :/

Incidentally in Supergirl he prefers to be called James as Jimmy is his "special" nickname for Superman only. :trolleye: Supergirl's Jimmy Olsen is much older. He's a pulitzer prize winning photographer now. Superman's been about for about 20 years.

[THGhost]

I watched the leaked pilot the other night and I enjoyed it. I'll admit right now that I know absolutely nothing about Supergirl other than the fact that she's Superman's cousin. :lol:

I also know very little about The Flash or Green Arrow but still enjoy their shows, so I think I'll be fine with Supergirl too.

[Jester]

So far so good....aside for from Baby Kal's goofy spit-curl.


So.....Dean Cain and Helen Slater are Kara's human parents in this, eh? They took the "Lets make the former star the parent" thing and doubled down on it, didn't they?

[TigerClaw]

I watched the leaked pilot the other night and I enjoyed it. I'll admit right now that I know absolutely nothing about Supergirl other than the fact that she's Superman's cousin. :lol:

I also know very little about The Flash or Green Arrow but still enjoy their shows, so I think I'll be fine with Supergirl too.
you never seen the Supergirl movie?

[Leo656]

Most people haven't. And God Bless 'Em. :lol:

Naaaaaaah, it wasn't that bad. Well, nah, it was, but Helen Slater was good IN it.

[Jester]

Most people haven't. And God Bless 'Em. :lol:

Naaaaaaah, it wasn't that bad. Well, nah, it was, but Helen Slater was good IN it.
Supergirl: The Movie....still better than Superman 3 and 4....:P

[Leo656]

I'unno about all that. It's better than *parts* of them. But the bad acting in those two was still loads better than the bad acting in Supergirl.

On one side, you have a couple flicks with bad scripts and SFX, but a cast of (mostly) pros doing their best to hold it together, even if it didn't work. On the other side, nobody involved in Supergirl really gave much of a sh*t except Slater, who was too inexperienced to really make any difference past her own contributions, many of which were trimmed down so the hammy villain-ess could have more campy scenes.

They're all pretty skippable, though.

[Jester]

I.....um....really....kinda liked Nuclear Man...





And the Bizzaroesque sub-plot of Supes 3.

[TigerClaw]

I believe Helen Slater has a part in the Supergirl TV show also.

[Jester]

I believe Helen Slater has a part in the Supergirl TV show also.
She does...
As I mentioned in my edited post (and Raph's Girl mentioned.) she's Kara's mom. Dean "Superman" Cain is her dad.....really weird.

[Leo656]

III and IV had a couple moments. And they were bad, but at least they were memorable, even if for what they did wrong.

I've seen Supergirl a bunch of times. And I can never remember anything about it! Every now and then, I'm like, "Let's watch Supergirl, I haven't seen that in a while." And then when it's over, I'm not angry, I'm not sad, I'm not offended, I'm not bored, but I DO always feel like, "Why exactly did I want to watch this, again?" It's just so wholly unremarkable, bland and forgettable. Not "bad", but... just kind of "there".

They didn't know HOW to do the movie and I think that kind of shows. Can't blame 'em, the public's frame of reference for female super-heroes at that point was Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman, and let's be honest, she *looked* perfect in the role but everything about that show was horrid. So I can't be too mad at a bunch of people in the early-80s having zero idea how to do a Supergirl movie.

Alas, the world simply wasn't ready. :lol:

[Jester]

I liked the 1st season of Wonder Woman, when it was a period drama set during WWII. After that it just got bad...

Also, nothing beats...
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...which though it's his cousin, has been playing in my head as I watch this pilot....much like Queen's Flash Gordon theme plays when I watch Flash (AHHHH AH!!)

[Leo656]

Good call, Season 1 of WW was a little better.

As far as the Williams music goes, it is indeed iconic, but I also feel like people let their love of it poison their enjoyment of other things. Like, I saw a bunch of Man of Steel trailers set to the old music, and the response to them was unanimously favorable, with people going so far as to swear it would have been a "good movie" (or a better one) if everything was the same but The One Thing was changed. I mean, I get it, but that's just being way too devoted to something. And I actually agree, the tone of the entire movie would have been different, probably for the better, but c'mon.

Kind of a "damned if you do..." situation. Either way, they were going to have their movie unfavorably compared to Reeve's; you blast the iconic music in people's faces the whole time, that only makes it worse, even though you're giving people what they claim to want. I would have liked the old music but I'm at a point where it doesn't need to be in every Superman-related project for me to get into it.

Some nifty guitar covers of the classic theme out there, though. And a remix with like a choir effect. Pretty nifty.

[Raph's Girl]

I believe Helen Slater has a part in the Supergirl TV show also.

Aye. Helen Slater and Dean Cain play her earth parents, Sylvia and Fred Danvers, Scientists who helped Superman when he was first starting out as a hero. They were also in "Smallville". Helen played Superman's biological mother, Lara, while Dean was Vandal Savage.

[Jester]

Am I a monster for pointing out, and please not I'm doing this after she said she was Kara's boss and "hot" that Calista Flockhart has ruined her face with surgery?

EDIT: Do Kryptonians have some special power to make people NOT recognize them without glasses? Also....this is hitting a LOT of the Superman movie tropes (Saving a plane, the "I'm broadcasting this so only yo can hear it.") Yowza!

[Leo656]

Nope and Yep.

I don't dislike Calista but she is ALL wrong for Cat Grant. And, as you've pointed out, she's now rapidly turning into the Cryptkeeper.

Cat was actually one of my favorite "new" Superman characters from the Byrne/Wolfman era, but she was NOT an Anna Wintour clone. I am beyond sick of "As long as we keep the name, everything else is up for grabs" when it comes to using characters. A NAME is not a "Character", for pity's sake. If you change everything else about them, just change the damn name, too.

And I haven't seen the pilot yet - I will, but I'm in no rush, I'll probably see it when it airs - but just from the trailer alone, yeah. Lots and lots of "Let's do EVERY thing Superman famously does... but with Bewbs!" :lol: Ain't mad at 'em, though... what're they s'posed to do? At least it looks good, well-worn "iconic" moments notwithstanding.

It's not at all how I'd do the show, but it could be WAY worse and I honestly expected way worse, so yeah, good enough for now. And she's good in the main role so everyone else is inconsequential, although I'd love it if she wasn't the ONLY person in the cast I cared for. But eh.

[Raph's Girl]

Also....this is hitting a LOT of the Superman movie tropes (Saving a plane, the "I'm broadcasting this so only yo can hear it.") Yowza!

Well Jimmy DID mention that saving a plane was the first heroic act Superman ever did. *lol*

[THGhost]

you never seen the Supergirl movie?

Nope. I hear it's terrible. :P The only DC movies I've ever seen are Superman, Superman II, Man of Steel, Batman & Batman: Returns, Batman Forever & Batman & Robin, The Dark Knight trilogy and eugh, 2004's Catwoman & 2011's Green Lantern.

[Raph's Girl]

Well here's something different. The series hasn't even aired on tv yet but it's already been nominated for an award! It has been nominated along with The Muppets, American Crime Story, Aquarius, Blindspot, Minority Report, Scream Queens, and UnREAL for Most Exciting New Series based on the pilot and trailers alone!

We'll see if Supergirl wins or not May 31st on A&E during the Critics Choice Awards.

http://deadline.com/2015/05/critics-choice-tv-awards-top-new-series-most-exciting-1201432877/

[Jester]

Nope. I hear it's terrible. :P The only DC movies I've ever seen are Superman, Superman II, Man of Steel, Batman & Batman: Returns, Batman Forever & Batman & Robin, The Dark Knight trilogy and eugh, 2004's Catwoman & 2011's Green Lantern.
Yeah, Supergirl is WAY better than Catwoman.....but then again, I'd almost go so far as to say Batman and Robin is better.

[Raph's Girl]

Yeah, Supergirl is WAY better than Catwoman.....but then again, I'd almost go so far as to say Batman and Robin is better.

Everything is better than Catwoman...

Incidentally, Just read the rules of the Critics Choice TV Awards. Apparantly ALL shows nominated in the Most Exciting New Series category automatically get an award. So Supergirl is already an award winning show by default. *lol* Gotham got the same award last year and Agents of Shield got it in 2013.

[Allio]

it was alright, though I have always more enjoyed the "I have no hope in humanity" kara

[Leo656]

Why? Not enough whiny, bratty teenage girls in comics for ya already?

Frankly, I personally have hated almost everything they've done with the character since 2003 or whenever it was they brought her back. Convoluted origin aside, Linda Danvers/Matrix Supergirl was the only time in history that the character's ever been consistently interesting AND likable at the same time. There was no reason to toss it all out to have her go back to being "Kal-El's cousin, but a huge bratty emo c*** this time, so it's Modern."

I mean, I'm fine with the whole "struggling to find her place in the world and find people she can relate to" angle, not the, "I shoot fire out of my eyes, so I'd really rather be in charge of this planet than protecting it, since I'm so much more advanced and powerful and all, you're all just ants to me and I'unno why my cousin wastes time with you" type of sh*t they've been pulling with her in the comics off and on for the last decade. Not ALL teenage girls are whiny, spoiled, entitled brats, but this one's supposed to be one of the "role models". :roll: Noooo thanks.

Thankfully, it looks like the show is taking a more traditional approach.

[THGhost]

I'm about to watch Superman III for the first time, in all of its awfulness. Wish me luck. :lol:

EDIT: Oh God, what have I done?

Seriously though, it wasn't all that bad. Not sure why people hate it so much. I hear the 4th movie is even worse though. :P

[Leo656]

The fourth movie had a better story behind it (what ended up on the screen post-editing was a different story, entirely), and it was far more in tone with the first and second movies (the third movie feels like a totally different universe than the first two). But the story they tried to tell was WAY too big for the budget they had, which was about what a Box O'Joe and a dozen would cost at Dunkin' Donuts.

It COULD have been f*cking terrific, but you just CAN'T make a super-hero movie with NO money. It's the same ONE shot of him flying in every f*cking scene and it's VERY f*cking noticeable! It didn't help that nobody at all who was in it wanted it to be in it, so everybody's kind of half-assing it. If they made the exact same script with some minor tweaks and like, $20 million (which at the time was a lot) it could've been the best in the series. The fact that they had no money and still tried to MAKE it the biggest in the series... well... it completely collapses under its own weight. Immediately.

And that's what makes it so, so awful. If any other company AT ALL but Canon Films had made Superman IV, it WOULD have been great. As is, it's pretty much one of the worst abortions ever seen. I still watch it, but I always hate myself by the end of it. But, I have a lot of sins to atone for, and I don't cut myself, so I guess it's my penance.

[Raph's Girl]

Peter Facinelli (Dr. Cullen in the Twilight movies) has been cast as Maxwell Lord! Quick! Somebody find Wonder Woman so she can snap his neck!

http://comicbook.com/2015/07/12/supergirl-casts-peter-facinelli-as-maxwell-lord/

[TurtleTitan97]

Livewire and Reactron are confirmed to appear: http://comicbook.com/2015/07/12/first-cbs-supergirl-villains-revealed/

[Raph's Girl]

Jenna Dewan-Tatum (wife of Channing Tatum) has been cast as Lucy Lane! And yes in the show she's an ex of Jimmy's. So now there's a Marvel/DC couple what with Channing being Gambit (yeah he changed his mind and decided to do the Gambit movie after all)

http://comicbook.com/2015/08/04/supergirl-casts-jenna-dewan-tatum-as-lucy-lane/

[TurtleTitan97]

Red Tornado is confirmed to appear: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=123817

[Raph's Girl]

Red Tornado is confirmed to appear: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=123817

Dude... Red Tornado?! But which one?? The android or Ma Hunkel? If they go with the android then they'd totally have to cast T.O Morrow.... :o

Also Non and Sam Lane have been confirmed as appearing. Too bad Michael Ironside was cast as Capt Cold's dad in Flash. I loved his portrayal as Sam Lane in "Smallville".

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/cbs-supergirl-to-feature-red-tornado-general-lane-more

[TurtleTitan97]

Brit Morgan has been casted as Livewire: http://comicbook.com/2015/08/12/supergirl-casts-brit-morgan-as-livewire/

[Raph's Girl]

Actor Justice Leak (yes that's his real name) has been cast as the super villain Hellgrammite (in the show he's an alien bug man, in the comics he's a um...mutant/meta-human bug...thing)

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Supergirl-Just-Added-Its-Craziest-Comic-Book-Villain-Yet-78767.html

[Raph's Girl]

Levi Miller (Peter Pan in the upcoming film, Pan) has been cast as Cat Grant's 12 year old son who gains a crush on Supergirl (well he can teach her flying techniques at least. *lol*). I wonder if he'll be killed by Toyman like he was in the comics?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/levi-miller-joins-supergirl-as-cat-grants-son

[Leo656]

Different character, apparently. Her son in the comics was Adam, not Carter. This show looks to be heavy, heavy on "fluff", so I'm gonna go ahead and say NO, definitely not gonna get killed by Toyman, and I'm betting they went out of their way to name him something different to really hammer home the point that it's not gonna happen.

Besides, if he gets killed off we can't watch him go all ga-ga over Supergirl with his "adorable" little puppy crush. :roll: The f*** is that sh*t, no thanks.

[Raph's Girl]

Peaky Blinders actor Iddo Goldberg has been cast as... T.O Morrow AND Red Tornado! So apparantly they're the same person now?! :o

http://comicbook.com/2015/09/01/exclusive-supergirl-casts-iddo-goldberg-as-dr-t-o-morrow-the-red/

[TurtleTitan97]

Peaky Blinders actor Iddo Goldberg has been cast as... T.O Morrow AND Red Tornado! So apparantly they're the same person now?! :o

http://comicbook.com/2015/09/01/exclusive-supergirl-casts-iddo-goldberg-as-dr-t-o-morrow-the-red/

Not according to this description: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=124659

"Red Tornado is the most advanced android the world has ever seen. Designed by scientist T.O. Morrow for the U.S. Army as the ultimate superweapon, he soon becomes sentient, posing a grave danger to National City -- including the people Supergirl cares about most."

It sounds as though he'll just be playing two different characters. Kinda like how Paul Bettany played Jarvis and the Vision.

[Raph's Girl]

Actor Glenn Morshower has been cast as Gen. Sam Lane. He's apparantly hiring Supergirl to do his dirty work. :ohwell:


http://comicbook.com/2015/09/02/supergirl-casts-transformers-veteran-glenn-morshower-as-general-/

[TurtleTitan97]

So uh, we have our first look at Red Tornado:

http://media.comicbook.com/2015/09/107117-d0026-152352.jpg

I'm guessing they're going to be adding the CGI to him later for the show. Or at least I hope so. :lol:

[TLP]

So uh, we have our first look at Red Tornado:

http://media.comicbook.com/2015/09/107117-d0026-152352.jpg

I'm guessing they're going to be adding the CGI to him later for the show. Or at least I hope so. :lol:

That's.....really ugly to look at.

Had it not been for the fact I know a little bit about Red Tornado, I would have never guessed that was a robot.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Looks like they're trying to copy Vision's look with that human face.

[ZariusTwo]

A new trailer with fresh footage

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[Raph's Girl]

In an attempt to confuse the ever loving frak out of everyone. Toyman has just been cast in "Supergirl". Apparantly the Winslow Schott who is Kara's friend at work is...actually Winslow Schott JR. Well I suppose this makes some sense since Superman's been out and about for at least 20 years or more...so his villains would be older and have kids... Henry Czerny has been cast as Winslow sr/Toyman.

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/26/exclusive-henry-czerny-cast-as-toyman-on-supergirl/

[Leo656]

I caught the pilot. It's fine, I'll call it a B, but the stuff that's not great really isn't great. Supergirl herself is really good, thankfully, but pretty much the entire rest of the cast is misplaced. Like the guy playing Schott would be a great Jimmy Olsen, and the guy playing Olsen would be better off if he was named anything else (why not Ron Troupe, for example?). Pretty much every character in the show besides Supergirl is "(________) In Name Only", and I hate that sh*t. Like, all the characters serve the plot and the story just fine, but none of them act like the characters they're supposed to be, AT ALL, and that always drives me nuts. "Cat Grant" doesn't act like Cat Grant, "Jimmy Olsen" is SO NOT Jimmy Olsen in any way at all, and "Hank Henshaw" is like, pretty much some amalgamation of Paul Westfield and Sam Lane, for some reason. Hate that. Either change the story so the characters are recognizable, or use different characters. Cat Grant is not Anna f***ing Wintour. :roll: That's one of my main issues with the show, is that I absolutely hate the casting and character choices and none of that is fixable.

The absolute worst thing, though, is how they have to handle Superman. By necessity of reasons both financial and logistical, they have to mostly keep him off the board, despite the fact that pretty much nothing happens without him because he's the lynchpin of the entire mythology. There's a couple of ways they could do this, none of them satisfying but a few which could be clever if handled delicately. In THIS case, however, they've handled it by making Superman an asshole. By all we are shown, he basically dumps his younger cousin off on a farm and never sees her again for like 10 years. Kara acts like she has NO idea who he is, NEVER met him other than that one time... She's his closest living relative! I mean for f*ck's sake, think about it... a huge part of the pathos of the Superman mythology is that he's the last of his race, alone, and once in a while he wishes otherwise. SO, when he finally finds out he has family... he's NOT going to just go, "WOAH! BAGGAGE! Nope, seeya later kid", and then be a total stranger to her. It's awful. It's horribly written. I GET that they can't use Superman. There's better ways.

Consider this scene, this one AWFUL scene at the end, that COULD have been a beautiful, inspiring, dramatic scene like it was trying so, so hard (and failing) to be. The scene where "Jimmy" gives Kara Kal-El's cape/blanket he was wrapped in as a baby. On the surface, it seems like it's working... until you realize that SUPERMAN, Kara's cousin and (as far as either one knows) only living family member was apparently "too busy" to give it to her himself. There is NO acceptable reason for this. He would have shown up when she revealed herself, and he DEFINITELY would have given her the cape himself, because those are the kind of things that are just absolute. There is no, "Well, maybe he wouldn't because..." No, he absolutely would.

Instead, it's written like, "Hey, Jimmy! Pal! Y'wanna do me a favor? Drop this off with my cousin on your way home from work. Tell her I might swing by around Thanksgiving or something. I'll text her. Hasta." No f***ing way. Lots of stuff can only happen in this universe if Superman is a dick. Superman isn't a dick, so I can tell that a lot of stuff about this show is going to bother me, because they have to go so far out of their way NOT to include him that it's farcical. I've heard they're doing an entire episode about why Superman's never there, and I can already tell that's just going to be an ordeal to sit through, in a show that already goes out of its way to hit you over the head with things until you get it.

It wasn't bad on the whole, though. But the bad is bad and not anything they can fix. :ohwell: But the good is really good, and I like that they look like they want to spend some money on it. There was one friggin' horrific edit during the plane-catching scene, like a really sh*tty transition that stood out mostly because the rest of it was so smooth. But most of the show is going to rest on Supergirl herself, and luckily she's really good.

B.

[Raph's Girl]

This week on Supergirl:
I hope nobody ever confiscates Kara's work computer. Those IM's between her and Superman could bite em in the arse... :P

Also, Toy Man Jr now knows Superman's secret ID....great job Kara and Jimmy.

And hai first appearance of Lucy Lane....way to break Kara's heart there. :ohwell:

So, Cat and Maxwell Lord have a past eh? Wonder who's the daddy of Cat's son?

[PangolinFeets]

I liked this a lot more than I thought I would. I kinda hate CW shows and the lot, but when I was a kid I was obsessed with the Adventures of Lois and Clark so I gave it a watch. The actress for Supergirl is so damn perfect. She's adorable.

I'm with you on the Superman thing, Leo. Its really ****ing stupid. Either feature him or get off his dick. The more people say, 'Oh he wish he could be here. He's so proud of you. Etc.' The more they make him look like some kind of dead-beat dad. If he can't be on the show, just let Kara have her own thing and stop comparing them.

[Leo656]

"Gosh, Kara, I'd love to hang out and chat with my only living relative and all, but these gosh darn cats aren't gonna get themselves outta these trees." :roll: Good f*ckin' gosh.

It's not a bad show... it's a decent show with a lot of good stuff and a lot of stuff wrong with it. The good is good to the point that the bad stuff really stands out.

I guess that kind of evens out. I didn't see the new one, I've been watching Flash on DVR. Sweet sassy-molassy, there's a show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

"Gosh, Kara, I'd love to hang out and chat with my only living relative and all, but these gosh darn cats aren't gonna get themselves outta these trees." :roll: Good f*ckin' gosh.

It's not a bad show... it's a decent show with a lot of good stuff and a lot of stuff wrong with it. The good is good to the point that the bad stuff really stands out.

I guess that kind of evens out. I didn't see the new one, I've been watching Flash on DVR. Sweet sassy-molassy, there's a show.

We told ya about the Flash, man. WE TOLD YA. :tcool:

[Leo656]

I know. I work a lot.

[CyberCubed]

The actress playing Supergirl is so cute. She's literally the only reason to watch it. Also many people have fantasies while she's in her supergirl outfit. Nnnggh.

[TurtleTitan97]

The actress playing Supergirl is so cute. She's literally the only reason to watch it. Also many people have fantasies while she's in her supergirl outfit. Nnnggh.

You're disgusting. :roll:

[CyberCubed]

Watching shows for cute girls is what many people do. When you hit your 20's you'll understand that.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh this is going to be good. :tgrin:

Much better than the actual show, even. :twink:

[PangolinFeets]

Well there you go.
http://io9.com/supergirl-has-a-superman-sized-problem-at-its-center-1741701633

[TurtleTitan97]

Watching shows for cute girls is what many people do. When you hit your 20's you'll understand that.

Well hopefully when I do turn 20 I don't turn into a sad little man like yourself.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well there you go.
http://io9.com/supergirl-has-a-superman-sized-problem-at-its-center-1741701633

If people are (rightfully) raising complaints about this all over the place and the show is just... four episodes in? How long before the status quo changes, and how exactly do they change it?

[CyberCubed]

Well hopefully when I do turn 20 I don't turn into a sad little man like yourself.

Are you seriously claiming you never knew people watch TV shows or movies because they find the actress cute or attractive? Really?

I mean we're not talking about some teenage girl here, the Supergirl actress is in her 20's. I know you're only 18 so school is probably teaching you some weird sense of social justice, but when you get older in your 20's you realize there's nothing wrong with finding women attractive and that's what's keeping your attention.

Seriously, its about growing up. Commenting on how cute the actress who plays Supergirl is, is basically the norm for most males.

[plastroncafe]

Creepers be creepin'.

[TurtleTitan97]

Are you seriously claiming you never knew people watch TV shows or movies because they find the actress cute or attractive? Really?

I mean we're not talking about some teenage girl here, the Supergirl actress is in her 20's. I know you're only 18 so school is probably teaching you some weird sense of social justice, but when you get older in your 20's you realize there's nothing wrong with finding women attractive and that's what's keeping your attention.

Seriously, its about growing up. Commenting on how cute the actress who plays Supergirl is, is basically the norm for most males.

Let me just say this upfront: You are a bloody idiot. Not to mention a creep. And that's just putting it nicely.

And unlike you, I don't watch Supergirl solely just to fantasize about the actress in her costume. See the thing is, unlike you, I actually READ comic books and I'm a fan of the character. But you probably wouldn't understand because your mind couldn't process that type of thinking. :roll:

Yeah, she's attractive, so what? It's a superhero series about an iconic character that I like, and I believe the show has potential. That right there is the reason I watch it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Are you seriously claiming you never knew people watch TV shows or movies because they find the actress cute or attractive? Really?

I mean we're not talking about some teenage girl here, the Supergirl actress is in her 20's. I know you're only 18 so school is probably teaching you some weird sense of social justice, but when you get older in your 20's you realize there's nothing wrong with finding women attractive and that's what's keeping your attention.

Seriously, its about growing up. Commenting on how cute the actress who plays Supergirl is, is basically the norm for most males.

So Cubed my man... based on that logic, why do you watch Torchwood or Supernatural? :trazz:

[Candy Kappa]

Torchwood

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/drwho/images/8/8d/Captainharkness.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111118201512&path-prefix=answers

need more? :P

[Amaranthus]

Holy sh*t, you guys.
Really?
Cubed, thinking an actress is hot is a dumb and slightly creepy reason to watch a show.
Titan, you're overreacting. Watching a show for a cute actress doesn't make you a sex-offender or anything.
Now stop fighting for the love of god.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/drwho/images/8/8d/Captainharkness.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111118201512&path-prefix=answers

need more? :P

Need SO MUCH MORE.

<swoons for Cap'n Jack Motherf'ing Harkness>

[TurtleTitan97]

Titan, you're overreacting. Watching a show for a cute actress doesn't make you a sex-offender or anything.


True, but saying you fantasize about the actress in costume is the sole reason to watch the show and adding the words "Nnnggh" to your post does make a person still come off as creepy though. Not to mention dumb.

People should watch superhero shows and movies because they are either interested in the character or simply want to learn more about them, not just for how attractive the actors playing them are. That's simply the point I'm trying to state.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm not leaving until Candy floods this thread with Cap'n Jack beefcake pictures.

I'd do it myself, but I can never get images to work right in this damn forum... :tgrumble:

[plastroncafe]

Maybe I'm just speaking for myself here, but I really could have done without knowing that Cube uses the new Supergirl show as spankbait.

[Amaranthus]

Maybe I'm just speaking for myself here, but I really could have done without knowing that Cube uses the new Supergirl show as spankbait.

I didn't read him saying he fantasized about it.
Nothing wrong that. But it really shouldn't be shared on here.

[plastroncafe]

Really?
Is there another way to take this:

The actress playing Supergirl is so cute. She's literally the only reason to watch it. Also many people have fantasies while she's in her supergirl outfit. Nnnggh.

I haven't even had a chance to see the show yet, and already it's tainted with fakegeekboy fappery.

[Amaranthus]

Really?
Is there another way to take this:



I haven't even had a chance to see the show yet, and already it's tainted with fakegeekboy fappery.

I was hoping he was joking about that, to be honest.

[TurtleTitan97]

I was hoping he was joking about that, to be honest.

Unfortunately, he isn't. This isn't the first time in this thread he's made these types of lewd comments.

[Candy Kappa]

Need SO MUCH MORE.

<swoons for Cap'n Jack Motherf'ing Harkness>

http://38.media.tumblr.com/1c8a66be7ebf106ea3b082e109e7b992/tumblr_inline_mxmjb0aGob1qf170n.gif

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/1c8a66be7ebf106ea3b082e109e7b992/tumblr_inline_mxmjb0aGob1qf170n.gif

Candy Kappa, today you are my HERO. :tcool:

[Amaranthus]

The Doctor > Jack.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqfahtK6Tu1qb5y4n.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

True, but saying you fantasize about the actress in costume is the sole reason to watch the show and adding the words "Nnnggh" to your post does make a person still come off as creepy though. Not to mention dumb.

People should watch superhero shows and movies because they are either interested in the character or simply want to learn more about them, not just for how attractive the actors playing them are. That's simply the point I'm trying to state.


The first part of what you said Turtle refers to the fake Doctor Who David Tennant fans who only watched Who because they found Tennant hot. :lol:

[CyberCubed]

And unlike you, I don't watch Supergirl solely just to fantasize about the actress in her costume. See the thing is, unlike you, I actually READ comic books and I'm a fan of the character. But you probably wouldn't understand because your mind couldn't process that type of thinking. :roll:

The Supergirl show as it is right now is very mediocre. The reason I tune in is because the actress playing Supergirl is incredibly cute and attractive. If not for her, I probably wouldn't bother with the show.

If the show improves in the future and becomes really well written and plot driven, then that will be another reason to watch. So far though its just so-so.

Yeah, she's attractive, so what? It's a superhero series about an iconic character that I like, and I believe the show has potential. That right there is the reason I watch it.

I am surprised I have to say this. People watch shows with good looking actors. Why do you think good looking people are always cast in lead roles in TV shows and movies?

If Supergirl was 300 pounds do you think anyone would watch this show? Of course not, they purposely cast a cute young blonde with a good body as the lead role. Its the same reason the comic version of the characters looks the way she does.

And females do the same thing with male actors. How many female fans watch shows because they find the male lead to be "a hunk" or "a dreamboat." Female fans fantasize about attractive male leads all the time, c'mon now.

[TurtleTitan97]

For god's sake, you really are dense for ignoring everything else I said and still justifying yourself. :roll:

Y'know what? Forget this nonsense and screw you. Arguing with you and trying to understand your dumbness is like killing off my brain cells by the millions. I'm out.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

If Supergirl was 300 pounds do you think anyone would watch this show?

Kryptonian metabolism actually prevents Supergirl from gaining excess poundage. I'm serious... in ten episodes, we're going to see Supergirl suffer a devastating heartbreak. She retreats to the couch and consumes Ben & Jerry's while she texts with her absentee cousin. Even though she consumes ten gallons of "Chubby Hubby" (all the while crying due to cruel irony), she never gains a pound.

Kryptonian metabolism. Not to be underestimated.

ADDED:
Y'know what? Forget this nonsense and screw you. Arguing with you and trying to understand your dumbness is like killing off my brain cells by the millions. I'm out.

That's what alcohol is for, mate. Much more enjoyable.

[plastroncafe]

Classic Cyber.
Doubling down on the creep factor by continuing to talk.

[CyberCubed]

Its funny there is some denial going on here. Looking at every major actor in all the biggest movies and TV shows over the last 30 years that are aimed at young adults. All the best looking actors and actress are always cast in lead roles. This is the way Hollywood works.

This is why cute young girls always get the lead roles in movies.

[TurtleTitan97]

That's what alcohol is for, mate. Much more enjoyable.

You sir, are truly wise beyond your years. :tthumbsu:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Its funny there is some denial going on here. Looking at every major actor in all the biggest movies and TV shows over the last 30 years that are aimed at young adults. All the best looking actors and actress are always cast in lead roles. This is the way Hollywood works.

This is why cute young girls always get the lead roles in movies.

Cute is subjective. Were I to watch shows solely based on the attractiveness of their lead actor/actress, I'd watch nothing but Torchwood... sorry, got derailed. Dammit, Barrowman.

What I meant to say is, were that the case, I still wouldn't watch this show. Not my type. (And poor writing is DEFINITELY not my type... perhaps a Flash/Supergirl crossover will force me to reevaluate.)

[CyberCubed]

http://i1.wp.com/nerdbastards.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Supergirl-Trailer.jpg

She's adorable.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://i1.wp.com/nerdbastards.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Supergirl-Trailer.jpg

She's adorable.

Eh. I'm not going to contribute to a "she's hawt" nuh uh" "uh huh" "your mom's hawt" dialogue.

Although, for all I know, perhaps your mother is indeed "hawt"...

[CyberCubed]

What about this one, this is when she was deciding what to wear for her superhero outfit:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JXGMHzNQbfc/maxresdefault.jpg

Are you guys going to say with a straight face this scene wasn't done for the male audience?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What about this one, this is when she was deciding what to wear for her superhero outfit:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JXGMHzNQbfc/maxresdefault.jpg

Are you guys going to say with a straight face this scene wasn't done for the male audience?

Obviously done for the male audience and also to poke fun at sexualized comic book costumes.

Doesn't change my opinion.

[plastroncafe]

Aren't we all glad to know what specific pictures Cyber spanks to now?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Aren't we all glad to know what specific pictures Cyber spanks to now?

If I could successfully upload those animated GIFs of standing applause, I would.

THAT was hilarious. :tlol:

[ToTheNines]

For god's sake, you really are dense for ignoring everything else I said and still justifying yourself. :roll:

Y'know what? Forget this nonsense and screw you. Arguing with you and trying to understand your dumbness is like killing off my brain cells by the millions. I'm out.

That's what he does. He's pretty much in his own little world, and he is mainly conversing with himself rather than others.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That's what he does. He's pretty much in his own little world, and he is mainly conversing with himself rather than others.

Actually, he's a fellow comedian but you all take him seriously.

We were actually sharing the stage at SXSW last year; that guy can drink even Bill Burr under the table! It's unbelievable.

[plastroncafe]

Comedians are funny.

[PangolinFeets]

I mean, I'm only watching the show for her, but not because I wanna look at her body. Personality-wise, she's precious. Her dialogue and interactions with other characters are the only thing keeping me interested in the show.

[TurtleTitan97]

I mean, I'm only watching the show for her, but not because I wanna look at her body. Personality-wise, she's precious. Her dialogue and interactions with other characters are the only thing keeping me interested in the show.

Exactly this. Next to Grant Gustin's Flash, Melissa Benoist performance as Supergirl is my second fav portrayal for a major DC superhero. Which is all the more sad that there are no plans for a crossover between them in the near future.

[Jephael]

This show looks to be heavy, heavy on "fluff".

To be honest, after all the angst and sexual frustration I watched Clark go through during his teen years on Smallville, I'm more than happy to welcome a little fluff into the mythos of these characters.

[TLP]

Two strikes so far. Hoping to give the third one a watch before giving my judgement.

[Leo656]

To be honest, after all the angst and sexual frustration I watched Clark go through during his teen years on Smallville, I'm more than happy to welcome a little fluff into the mythos of these characters.

You made a conscious decision to watch Smallville, you deserve your pain.

I'm always intrigued when I see Max Lord show up. Doesn't seem like he has his "Mind Push" power here, at least not yet, as there were several instances where it would have come in handy and it didn't seem like it was even implied. Maybe later.

Benoist in her outfit isn't the only reason to watch the show... but... it is the best reason. Sorry. :lol:

[ABrown]

I'm a little disappointed in what I've seen from the early episodes. I'd like for a little bit more backstory to be given with these villains for those of us (like myself) who aren't familiar with them. Also, I don't like how Kara/Supergirl so willingly just takes orders from the "DEO" like she's one of their soldiers. I have no problem with her having them as allies and utilizing their resources though. But could you imagine if it were a Wonder Woman series, and she was so willingly taking orders from Steve Trevor.

[CyberCubed]

Wonder Woman and Supergirl aren't the same character though. Wonder Woman wouldn't take orders because that's who she is, whereas Supergirl (especially in this show), is a young 20 something year old trying to prove she's just as good as Superman.

Supergirl is basically, "I am a woman and hear me roar, I am just as good as the boys!"" type of girl. Wonder Woman is already a seasoned fighter and leader.

[Leo656]

Supergirl is basically, "I am a woman and hear me roar, I am just as good as the boys!"" type of girl.

And boy does this show love banging THAT drum loud and often. :trazz: It's like, "Yeah, 'Girl Power', we get it." I keep half-expecting the frickin' Spice Girls to show up.

I mean it's fine, and it's expected. But they could bring it down to like a 6, maybe.

[CyberCubed]

And boy does this show love banging THAT drum loud and often. :trazz: It's like, "Yeah, 'Girl Power', we get it." I keep half-expecting the frickin' Spice Girls to show up.

I mean it's fine, and it's expected. But they could bring it down to like a 6, maybe.

When the characters name her "Supergirl" she says, "Isn't that anti-feminist? Shouldn't I be named Super...woman? I feel like saying girl demeans who I am."

LOL, what. :lol:

Saying "girl" is now anti-feminist according to this show.

[plastroncafe]

When the characters name her "Supergirl" she says, "Isn't that anti-feminist? Shouldn't I be named Super...woman? I feel like saying girl demeans who I am."

LOL, what. :lol:

Saying "girl" is now anti-feminist according to this show.

It's the very definition of demeaning when you use it to describe a full grown woman.

Show of hands: who here is amused by Cyber's sudden self-promotion to Feminist Pope?
Keep them up if you're certain his next response is going to be a man-splain of Feminism.

[NinjaPug]

I'd be pissed too if I was Kara's age and they called me Superboy.

[CyberCubed]

It's the very definition of demeaning when you use it to describe a full grown woman.

Where are you from? Many females in their 20's are still referred to as "girls" here in New York. At one of my jobs the female workers were always called "girls" and not "women." They would say, "Hey call those girls over here!" and not, "Hey bring over those women!"

Hell when I worked at the airport in my early 20's, a lot of people called me "kid" when I was a fully grown adult. Then again all my co-workers were in their late 30's or early 40's, so to them a 20 something year old probably did seem like a kid.

[plastroncafe]

Hell when I worked at the airport in my early 20's, a lot of people called me "kid" when I was a fully grown adult. Then again all my co-workers were in their late 30's or early 40's, so to them a 20 something year old probably did seem like a kid.

Much like SuperGirl, you'd have been well within your rghts to demand people not refer to you that way if it bothered you.
And then you'd be able to tell a lot about the person you're talking to by how they react to your request.

Me personally, I don't answer to "girl," because I haven't been one in a very long time.

[Storm Eagle]

It's the very definition of demeaning when you use it to describe a full grown woman.



So are you bothered when full grown women use the term when referring to themselves, or even when they're referring to, or addressing other grown women? Like, when one says "the girls and I are hanging out this weekend".

[plastroncafe]

So are you bothered when full grown women use the term when referring to themselves, or even when they're referring to, or addressing other grown women? Like, when one says "the girls and I are hanging out this weekend".

Am I one of the women being referred to?

[Storm Eagle]

Am I one of the women being referred to?

You did say it's demeaning when the word is used to refer to a grown woman, so I was just curious. Chill.

[plastroncafe]

You did say it's demeaning when the word is used to refer to a grown woman, so I was just curious. Chill.

I wasn't aware I was upset, but thanks for letting me know? I guess?

[CyberCubed]

A lot of adult women do refer to their friends as their, "girl friends" not their, "women friends" so I don't see the problem.

I've seen adult woman refer to each other as girls all the time. Although I imagine its most common with 20 year olds than 30-40 year olds. Obviously 20 year olds don't want to be considered old and still see themselves as young.

[BabyTurtles]

I think the problem is....having your Title/Superhero name....."something-girl" when you are actually a women...

what if Superman was "SuperBoy"??? that doesn't sound right....does "BatBoy" sound better?? :lol:
https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqbjcxibad1qirsuqo1_400.gif

If Kara is a women...then she should be called "SuperWOMEN" :ohwell:...same with PowerGirl...I mean what's up with that XD???

SpiderBoy...lol XD

(Though if a character is in college and in their early 20's then it doesn't bother me) ^_^

[TurtleTitan97]

I think the problem is....having your Title/Superhero name....."something-girl" when you are actually a women...

what if Superman was "SuperBoy"??? that doesn't sound right....does "BatBoy" sound better?? :lol:
https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqbjcxibad1qirsuqo1_400.gif

If Kara is a women...then she should be called "SuperWOMEN" :ohwell:...same with PowerGirl...I mean what's up with that XD???

SpiderBoy...lol XD

(Though if a character is in college and in their early 20's then it doesn't bother me) ^_^

Well technically Superman did use to go by Superboy back when he was younger, but I'm guessing that's not the point your trying to make.

But seriously, I find nothing wrong with a female hero going by either "Something-Girl/Woman". A name doesn't make them any less of a hero. And I prefer names like "Power Girl" and such.

[CyberCubed]

Not to mention in comics, using girl or woman in their names represents two different characters.

For example Wonder Woman and Wondergirl, or Batgirl and Batwoman, or Spider-girl and Spiderwoman, and so forth.

They should drop the "girl/woman" from the names altogether. Starfire, Raven, Miss Martian, etc. all don't need girl/woman in their superhero names.

[BabyTurtles]

Not to mention in comics, using girl or woman in their names represents two different characters.

For example Wonder Woman and Wondergirl, or Batgirl and Batwoman, or Spider-girl and Spiderwoman, and so forth.

They should drop the "girl/woman" from the names altogether. Starfire, Raven, Miss Martian, etc. all don't need girl/woman in their superhero names.

I'm just saying it's kinda funny how it's okay for Women to have "Girl" in their name (as a superhero) but weird for a man to have "Boy" in their name.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm just saying it's kinda funny how it's okay for Women to have "Girl" in their name (as a superhero) but weird for a man to have "Boy" in their name.

Probably because addressing a grown man as a "boy" is a lot more weirder. There's really nothing wrong for a female hero, regardless of age, going by either "girl" or "woman".

[Leo656]

Jesus Christ.

[ABrown]

Jesus Christ.

I don't think he'll be making an appearance in the first season. :D

But the point that I was trying to make before was that I want to see her standing on her own, not just being an extension of whatever that covert government organization is called.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://screenrant.com/most-weird-supergirl-stories-comics-dc/

This was too good not to post. This list is a poisoned well, from which NO stories or material should be adapted. :teek::tlol:

[CyberCubed]

Supergirl from S:TAS and JLU was pretty well written. But it was the Bruce Timm DCAU so its expected.

[TurtleTitan97]

http://screenrant.com/most-weird-supergirl-stories-comics-dc/

This was too good not to post. This list is a poisoned well, from which NO stories or material should be adapted. :teek::tlol:

Ah, the Silver Age. Such a very strange, whacky good time...

[TLP]

Supergirl from S:TAS and JLU was pretty well written. But it was the Bruce Timm DCAU so its expected.

Well, except her extremely rushed relationship with Brainiac 5 in the Legion of Superheroes episode. She barely knew the guy, even attacked him before immediately changing her mind, and she ultimately decided to stay in the future?

That has always bugged me.

[CyberCubed]

Comics now are just as bad, only for completely different reasons. Instead of campy and cheesy, now they're all dark and brooding with awful plot twists that go nowhere. Or they completely change a character to a completely different personality to the point where they're nothing like their former self.

Makes you wonder why people still read comics nowadays outside a few decent series.

[TurtleTitan97]

Makes you wonder why people still read comics nowadays outside a few decent series.

It's called "supporting the industry". People aren't going to stop reading comics all together just because of bad storytelling in certain series.

[Allio]

welp, I think I have decided to drop Supergirl.

Not to mention in comics, using girl or woman in their names represents two different characters.

For example Wonder Woman and Wondergirl, or Batgirl and Batwoman, or Spider-girl and Spiderwoman, and so forth.

They should drop the "girl/woman" from the names altogether. Starfire, Raven, Miss Martian, etc. all don't need girl/woman in their superhero names.

to be fair, most of those comes from the fact that they are related to characters like Superman and Batman

[CyberCubed]

It's called "supporting the industry". People aren't going to stop reading comics all together just because of bad storytelling in certain series.

I wouldn't support an industry if they weren't putting out good material. For the same reasons I wouldn't watch a TV show that is mediocre or poor even if its part of a franchise I like.

The only comics I read nowadays is IDW TMNT and Usagi Yojimbo. I did take a glance at some of the new Star Wars stuff but I haven't kept up with it. The new Star Wars comics seem decent so far though.

[TurtleTitan97]

I wouldn't support an industry if they weren't putting out good material. For the same reasons I wouldn't watch a TV show that is mediocre or poor even if its part of a franchise I like.


So because some comic series are telling bad stories, a person should stop reading comics all together and not support the actual good stuff? That's nuts. :roll:

[sdp]

I wish Melissa Benoist had a little more muscle on her, I saw an interview for the show and she talked about being a role model for girls and flexed and there was absolutely nothing there, I wasn't expecting her to be ripped and I thought Gal Gadot worked well enough as WW. I'm glad the show isn't going to be super dark, a character like Supergirl doesn't need that a fun show should be umm..well fun. Since crossovers aren't likely to happen I hope they at least don't outright contradict the other DC shows continuities or make vague references to appease fans. I would really like to see Supergirl in her other outfits she has worn through out the years, I personally grew up with the 90s white shirt costume so I'd like to see it at least once even if it's just her walking around town on a blue skirt and white shirt with the superman logo. But I guess they probably want to be very careful they don't "sexualize" the character with some of those outfits since they'll be attacked with the over reacting social media we have these days.

I need to catch up on my DC shows now that they're on Netflix, but I'll probably wait after I finish the Clone Wars show and watch the new SW movie before going into full DC mode. While I'm excited I also feel a little overwhelmed, I now have to watch Green Arrow, Flash, Gotham but next year I'll be watching those three but also adding that new Legends show and Supergirl plus any other DC shows they greenlight. Don't get me wrong I'm excited to see so much DC content available, I wanted more after watching the first season of Arrow, I just don't want to be burned out like I was with Marvel properties and their 3+ films a year.

[Leo656]

The problem with adapting Supergirl is that she's never really been presented all that well to start with, so there's not much good material to borrow from. There are few Great or even truly memorable Supergirl stories from the comics. She was created as a superfluous add-on character in the hopes it would give little girls who were bored with their Lois Lane comics something else to spend their dime on, and wasn't really "allowed" to do anything too important for decades. Her status for years as "Superman's Secret Weapon" kept her purposefully off to the side of any major action, because she was "still learning how to use her powers" and all that, so most of her adventures were rather insipid due to how badly they were handcuffed creatively. I mean, the most memorable stuff from the "Golden Age" of Supergirl stories, is when her magical horse wanted to bang her. She also had a flying cat... and that's about it.

By the time they decided to give Supergirl a serious "push" in the 80s, her whole "Gee Whiz!" personality was severely outdated, and since that was her sole defining characteristic for years and years, it kind of left her in a weird place where her semi-annual costume changes were a bigger deal than anything she actually did, because nobody could figure out what kind of personality she has, and 30 years later they STILL haven't figured it out. Like, her relaunch in 2005 or so was supposed to be all "back to basics", but then they turned her into an anorexic Bratz doll with a cape, who'd rather not be a super-hero because she hates human beings because she feels they're inferior to her and oh my God most Supergirl comics are obscenely awful.

Every TV and movie adaptation struggles, because there's still no solid template about WHO Supergirl even is, because she's always just been "Superman's Cousin, That's Good Enough", and then they forgot to actually give her a second and third dimension. And when they do, it's often fumbled, like the way it's been in the books for the past decade.

Pretty much the only time Supergirl ever "worked" in the comics, was when Peter David wrote it. And he only managed it by discarding every single thing that had ever been established about the character and starting over from scratch. Which is usually a sh*tty thing to do and a sign of supreme arrogance on the part of the writer, but... it was kind of the only way. It's STILL the best version of the character, and she's not even Superman's cousin or anything. But she IS a fully-developed character whose story has a beginning, middle, and an end... something Kara Zor-El has never been.

In brief, I really love the idea of Supergirl and how good it can be, but the execution has always been a mixed bag at best. This show is pretty much the "best" so far, as in it's the least-offensive version that the most people are familiar with, but man, that's an incredibly low bar to clear. I will say that Benoist herself - other than some of the awful dialog they force-feed her - is pretty much dead-on with her portrayal of the character. For whatever else is wrong with the show, I already feel like she's going to be the "definitive" version of the character to people for a really long time.

And that's great. I just wish lots of what was going on around her was way better.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Am I one of the women being referred to?


He was ASKING if you were bothered. So I guess the answer to your question is- ARE you one of those women who refer to themselves and their friends as girls? It seemed pretty simple to me.


You did say it's demeaning when the word is used to refer to a grown woman, so I was just curious. Chill.


I've never thought it demeaning unless used in a derogatory context. IE- "You're (just) a girl!" when said to a woman.


I wasn't aware I was upset, but thanks for letting me know? I guess?


Apparently, you are, if you're getting defensive about it. Why do you always turn everything into an attack on women, or you personally? The world's NOT out to get you, sweetie. Unless you really want it to be....

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Apparently, you are, if you're getting defensive about it. Why do you always turn everything into an attack on women, or you personally? The world's NOT out to get you, sweetie. Unless you really want it to be....

Shhh! Don't feed her those complacent lies! The world really IS out to get her. And you. And me.

<tightens velcro straps on tinfoil helmet>

Now if you'll excuse me, it's time to turn the tables and start hunting the lizard people. The hunted has become the hunter...

[Amaranthus]

I think the problem is....having your Title/Superhero name....."something-girl" when you are actually a women...

what if Superman was "SuperBoy"??? that doesn't sound right....does "BatBoy" sound better?? :lol:
https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqbjcxibad1qirsuqo1_400.gif

If Kara is a women...then she should be called "SuperWOMEN" :ohwell:...same with PowerGirl...I mean what's up with that XD???

SpiderBoy...lol XD

(Though if a character is in college and in their early 20's then it doesn't bother me) ^_^

It's woman. Women is plural.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's woman. Women is plural.

BabyTurtles' sentence structure and grammar was perfect.

[Amaranthus]

BabyTurtles' sentence structure and grammar was perfect.

He used women instead of woman.
F*cking fite me, m8.

[NinjaPug]

He used women instead of woman.
F*cking fite me, m8.

And she was right in using women instead of woman

[Amaranthus]

And she was right in using women instead of woman

"I think the problem is....having your Title/Superhero name....."something-girl" when you are actually a women..."
"If Kara is a women...then she should be called "SuperWOMEN""
Say that again. I dare you.
itotallydidntquotethewrongpost

[Amaranthus]

Nice job editing your post to quote a different post

If you would have read my spoiler you'd know I admitted to quoting the wrong post.
Doesn't mean I wasn't right though. :)

[Amaranthus]

Why'd you delete your post, lol?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

He used women instead of woman.
F*cking fite me, m8.

I don't fight kids; I take away their Gameboys and send them to bed early without dessert.

[ZariusTwo]

Latest episode has been pulled because of the Paris attacks

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/11/15/cbs-pulls-scheduled-supergirl-episode-in-wake-of-paris-attacks/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Latest episode has been pulled because of the Paris attacks

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/11/15/cbs-pulls-scheduled-supergirl-episode-in-wake-of-paris-attacks/

Stupid. Just because things happen in real life doesn't mean it's insensitive to show it in fiction (within reason).