Official Episode Discussion S2 #23 "A Chinatown Ghost Story"

[CyberCubed]

Nick has uploaded the next episode of Season 2, "A China Town Ghost story" on their site for free. Full episode. This will also function as the review thread:

http://www.nick.com/ninja-turtles/

[MikeandRaph87]

This is what a full week and x hours ahead of time? Would this not hurt the ratings for the television debut? Thanks, Cubed!

[lonewarrior20]

wheres jack burton when ya need him?

[CyberCubed]

Pretty fun filler episode, some spoilers:

- The Purple Dragon get powers that resemble the Mystic Foot in the 2k3 series, while the Turtles get the same powers

- The ghost Ho-Chan was a pretty funny character

- Nice bonding between Don/Casey/April

Not much else to say about it, but the CG looked really good in this ep for some reason.

[ssjup81]

Being stuck in the hospital sucks!

So, was there any mention of what happened last ep? Any mention of Karai? Any slight tension between Leo and Splinter?

I know the ep is supposed to be about the triangle and possibly strengthening their friendship, but can't help but wonder about the things I mentioned as well.

Will anyone write a full ep synopsis under a spoiler tag.

I'm going to be admitted here for another week.

[Warhorse]

Being stuck in the hospital sucks!

So, was there any mention of what happened last ep? Any mention of Karai? Any slight tension between Leo and Splinter?

I know the ep is supposed to be about the triangle and possibly strengthening their friendship, but can't help by wonder about the things I mentioned as well.

Not to mention, I wonder if something is going to happen to Raph's eyesight later on. That scene where Karai spat in his eye just did not come across as some random thing to me, but something that's going to be brought up later.

[ssjup81]

Not to mention, I wonder if something is going to happen to Raph's eyesight later on. That scene where Karai spat in his eye just did not come across as some random thing to me, but something that's going to be brought up later.I was thinking the same thing and also wondered about Mikey's arm.

[Machias Banshee]

I'm surprised they put it up this early...

Cubed, I went ahead and fixed your title, so it'll match the format of the other threads, and pinned it. :)

[Warhorse]

Awe man, I want to watch it, but I promised my little cousins I would go over to their house next Friday with some pizza and we can make it a marathon of watching the last few episodes leading up to the new one. Should I wait, or go ahead and watch it? Wait, watch, wait, watch! This is killing me.

I was thinking the same thing and also wondered about Mikey's arm.

Same here. He might get some sort of an infection or a break out later on.

[Mellie]

"I see.. a yellow jumpsuit.... no, it's just a t-shirt" :lol:


Thanks for the heads up! It was an OK episode.. I'm so tired of Donnie and his crush though.

[Warhorse]

"I see.. a yellow jumpsuit.... no, it's just a t-shirt" :lol:


Thanks for the heads up! It was an OK episode.. I'm so tired of Donnie and his crush though.

Be patient, pretty soon we will have Mikey have his crush, and then Raph will get hit the hardest, since he seems to detest his other two brothers and their current crushes. It would be kind of fitting.

[Machias Banshee]

It's not working for me for some reason... it gets to a point right at the end of the opening song, and then it goes black and won't play further. :(

Guess I'll wait for Friday..

[Warhorse]

It's not working for me for some reason... it gets to a point right at the end of the opening song, and then it goes black and won't play further. :(

Guess I'll wait for Friday..

Is this the Nick player? Yeah, I'd have to wait anyways for another method to come around, the nick player buffers too much, and then it just gets so frustrating, it takes me out of the episoded entirely.

[Xiewin]

Pretty good filler episode. I loved that most of the plot was taken from Big Trouble in Little China, such an interesting choice.

[TigerClaw]

It was a pretty good episode, I loved the Big Trouble in Little China homage in this. :)

[Jester]

It's not working for me for some reason... it gets to a point right at the end of the opening song, and then it goes black and won't play further. :(

Guess I'll wait for Friday..

Is this the Nick player? Yeah, I'd have to wait anyways for another method to come around, the nick player buffers too much, and then it just gets so frustrating, it takes me out of the episoded entirely.

Yeah I had to specifically download the Nick Android app and watched it on my phone... :P

[ssjup81]

Thinking about it, even if I weren't confined to a hospital bed and at home, I doubt I could watch it because I'm pretty sure videos on Nick's site would be blocked since I'm outside of the US.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the direct link to the episode.
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/tmnt-223-full-episode.html

[tmntpower1988]

I can't watch it at all, says it unavailable for my location.

[ssjup81]

Here's the direct link to the episode.
http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/tmnt-223-full-episode.html
Error. :tcry:

[TigerClaw]

Error. :tcry:
What are you using, cause it works fine for me.

[ssjup81]

What are you using, cause it works fine for me.My phone. It's the only thing I have with Internet here in the hospital. Sucks I can't sneak out, go home, and come back but I'm sure they'd notice the empty foreigner's room and an unplugged IV drip. :P

Edit: I'll just wait until I'm discharged. I think the doc said about another week. It's weird. 2 weeks in the hospital altogether is just weird. lol

[Warhorse]

What are you using, cause it works fine for me.

Wow, you don't live too far from me, I wonder if it would work now at this late hour. But, I'm so torn, I want to watch it for the first time with the little girls. Damn, I hate this. Out of curiousity, is Mikey really cute in this? My 8 year old cousin is absolutely in love with Mikey, and she gets so cute whenever he's really funny or kick ass on the show.

[TigerClaw]

I wonder if James Hong is the voice of Ho-Chan, Cause he sounded like him.

[Ninturtle]

Wow, you don't live too far from me, I wonder if it would work now at this late hour. But, I'm so torn, I want to watch it for the first time with the little girls. Damn, I hate this. Out of curiousity, is Mikey really cute in this? My 8 year old cousin is absolutely in love with Mikey, and she gets so cute whenever he's really funny or kick ass on the show.

he has a few moments but you should watch it on your own you don't need to wait for your cousin they won't know and its not that big of a deal any ways you saw a show with out a family member no big deal . you seem like a seasoned fan no need to lets kids get in the way of you watching it

[ssjup81]

So about that nice synopsis... Anyone? Please? ^^'

[Rukitron]

The whole evil Chinese Ghost reminded me of Jackie Chan Adventures including him enlisting 3 low grade goons and giving them super powers :tlol:

Wonder how long Irma is gonna be kept in the dark about the turtles and the other weird stuff that happens.

[ssjup81]

Irma was in the ep?

[victory_angel]

Irma was in the ep?

yeah,

And apparently there is something special about her. But it's different from April, or at least Ho Chen didn't understand what her powers were.

[Powder]

Pretty rad! I'm a sucker for evil Chinese mythology & that sort of thing. Really felt like a 4kids episode, could totally have seen them doing this. Interesting to see a slightly different tone for the series. But YO, the highlight of this particular episode? THE SOUNDTRACK. WHOA. BEST OST EVER!

Is it me, or did everyone's voices sound slightly different somehow? Wonder if it's pitch shifting or something...

[Warhorse]

yeah,

And apparently there is something special about her. But it's different from April, or at least Ho Chen didn't understand what her powers were.

Maybe she was PMSing.:lol:

[Jester]

yeah,

And apparently there is something special about her. But it's different from April, or at least Ho Chen didn't understand what her powers were.

Maybe she was PMSing.:lol:
Wait...wha?

[ssjup81]

So, was there any reference made to all that happened in the last ep? Any Leo/Splinter tension or guilt before the Chinatown stuff?

[Powder]

So, was there any reference made to all that happened in the last ep? Any Leo/Splinter tension or guilt before the Chinatown stuff?

They mention how they've looked for her for weeks to no avail, & that it has left Splinter in a sad state. Leo spends the scene making unhappy faces.

[ssjup81]

They mention how they've looked for her for weeks to no avail, & that it has left Splinter in a sad state. Leo spends the scene making unhappy faces.At least it's something. I'm just glad that it's referenced. So no tension between Splinter and Leo.

So has Splinter been off his game, lacking the ability enough to train the turtles due to his being so sad? Is it implied?

[Jester]

So has Splinter been off his game, lacking the ability enough to train the turtles due to his being so sad? Is it implied?
We see him in his room meditating, and Leo casts him a sad glance, like he's been there since Karai mutated.

[ssjup81]

We see him in his room meditating, and Leo casts him a sad glance, like he's been there since Karai mutated.I wonder if Leo's been leading training sessions in Splinter's absence.

[Zulithe]

a nice surprise to get the episode early, but last time this happened the episodes went up on iTunes too. This time? Nope!

[MrTMNT2012]

Yeaahh....that was the worst Donnie Episode I've ever seen!

At least the last shot was cool...

[Vicky82]

Was able to watch the episode using Hulu on my laptop (for some strange reason, Google Chrome ad Hulu dosn't work on my computer)

Anyway it was a good episode but it's not in my top 10 though. Will post thoughts later.

[JTH]

Pretty good episode, but not great.

Probably would have liked it more if the villain was portrayed a little more seriously.

[Ninturtle]

I wonder if Leo's been leading training sessions in Splinter's absence.

Not a huge fan of this episode I just didn't like how silly the concept was . a better origin for the ghost would have been " some wierd pink aliens turned me into a ghost "

[CyberCubed]

Yeaahh....that was the worst Donnie Episode I've ever seen!

At least the last shot was cool...

Do you actually enjoy watching this show or not? Complaining about perfectly good episodes in this show is bizarre.

[Luckyday]

Pretty good episode, but not great.

Probably would have liked it more if the villain was portrayed a little more seriously.

It felt like was a pizzaface episode. Maybe this episode was suppose to show after the kairai episode but it was push back due to the movie.

[Chaotix12345]

Enjoyable ep, though Nick.com's audio wouldn't work for me, so I had to watch Teenage Muted Ninja Turtles with captions. :P I definitely agree with Powder about it feeling like a 2k3 ep. It was a nice breather after all that went down with Karai. (Speaking of, it's nice that they're actively trying to search for her rather than just drop the plot until she resurfaces.) The nods to OT April's jumpsuit and the pizza thrower were fun and I also really enjoyed the amped-up battle with the mystic-powered turtle trio. Looking forward to more new eps in the coming weeks. (As well as experiencing the audio to THIS one when it airs on TV. XD)

[JTH]

Ho Chan is voiced by James Hong.

Many probably remember him as the voice of Da Long Wong from Jackie Chan Adventures.

I think that's the fourth V.A. to come over from that show.

[Ninturtle]

Do you actually enjoy watching this show or not? Complaining about perfectly good episodes in this show is bizarre.

I agree with him and I adore this show . This episode wasn't perfectly good for one , I hate the idea of having a ghost without it being related to the kraang it takes away from the generally realistic tone of the show ( i know its TMNT but it least this show explains why charecters have abilitys ) , 2 it was unnecessary filler they could have had bebop and rocksteadys mutation but no we get to see a silly ghost , The tension between casey and don was ridiculous it went to far like donnie prying casey and april apart . And how the hell is the ghost supposed to give powers it makes no sense .I was looking foward to an explaination to the character but i didn't get one .

[NinjaPug]

Thought that was a pretty good standalone episode. It was good to see the Purple Dragons in an episode again. Ho Chan was a decent new villain to add to the mix although I wish he would've had a more serious, less comedic role.

The Donnie/Casey stuff was pretty annoying but I'm so used to it that I won't let it ruin an episode for me.

[MrTMNT2012]

Do you actually enjoy watching this show or not? Complaining about perfectly good episodes in this show is bizarre.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that this episode was scientifically proven to be 'perfectly good'. I see now that everything is taken objectively!

Also, I am sorry that I haven't gone to the TMNT National Committee to complete my official fan application form so I shouldn't be taken seriously as a fan of this series.

Yep, I've hated everything about this series as shown by the grand total of 3 negative reviews I've made for it! :roll:

[CyberCubed]

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that this episode was scientifically proven to be 'perfectly good'. I see now that everything is taken objectively!

Also, I am sorry that I haven't gone to the TMNT National Committee to complete my official fan application form so I shouldn't be taken seriously as a fan of this series.

Yep, I've hated everything about this series as shown by the grand total of 3 negative reviews I've made for it! :roll:

It was intended to be a funny filler episode. Not sure why everything has to be plot changing.

[MiBs]

Niiiiiice! Can't wait to watch it....

[MrTMNT2012]

It was intended to be a funny filler episode. Not sure why everything has to be plot changing.

I didn't find it funny so....

[Leofan26]

It was intended to be a funny filler episode. Not sure why everything has to be plot changing.

Oh, Cybs is forcing his opinion on every one again :roll:

I wish they'd drop the love triangle plot already, it doesn't make Donnie look good at all :(

This is one of my least favorite episodes of the season sadly. Though, I wasn't expecting much any ways with it being evolved around the love triangle and pretty much only that.

[Luckyday]

Oh, Cybs is forcing his opinion on every one again :roll:

I wish they'd drop the love triangle plot already, it doesn't make Donnie look good at all :(

This is one of my least favorite episodes of the season sadly. Though, I wasn't expecting much any ways with it being evolved around the love triangle and pretty much only that.

I swear to god this **** is getting old. It started devolving to a point it just two minutes of random angry noises following by "stop fighting guys!". At least April did something this episode.

[ssjup81]

I wish you all would make up your minds. The love triangle stuff isn't really focused on much at all. Which would you rather have: a dragged out subplot or something to get it out of the way so that it doesn't interfere with the main plot? You can't have both. I'm all for the latter, personally.

That aside, I'll give my opinion on the ep as a whole when I can finally see it, but it sounds lighthearted and fun as well as funny (the goofy kind, which I've always liked). The calm (lighthearted, simplistic story) before the storm (lair invasion, Kraang invasion, Leo beat down....). Then again maybe it won't appeal to me much or maybe it will...although I've yet to see an ep I truly didn't like. I've liked something about every single ep I've seen.

Edit: Forgot to ask...was Donnie's lab shown, and if so, was frozen Mutagen Man still there?

[Warhorse]

I wish you all would make up your minds. The love triangle stuff isn't really focused on much at all. Which would you rather have: a dragged out subplot or something to get it out of the way so that it doesn't interfere with the main plot? You can't have both. I'm all for the latter, personally.

That aside, I'll give my opinion on the ep as a whole when I can finally see it, but it sounds lighthearted and fun as well as funny (the goofy kind, which I've always liked). The calm (lighthearted, simplistic story) before the storm (lair invasion, Kraang invasion, Leo beat down....). Then again maybe it won't appeal to me much or maybe it will...although I've yet to see an ep I truly didn't like. I've liked something about every single ep I've seen.

Edit: Forgot to ask...was Donnie's lab shown, and if so, was frozen Mutagen Man still there?

I think people are getting irked about it because it's taking over plot/character development/brotherly bonding/skirmishes from the other Turtles. I dunno, but I'd like a better Mikey than the one we got, burping off into the moonlight. I watched it last night, and compared to the last 4 episodes, this one was deplorable. And what ever happened to the Raph and Casey, BFF? Lately, it's just Casey pining away over April, and wanting something bad to happen to Irma. I don't like this Casey at all!

Right now, I give this episode a meh. And, I hate to say it, but I am really starting to dislike Donatello, just due to the fact the 90% of the freaking show is revolving around him. I never had a dislike for any of the Turtles before. Good job Nick and this infactuation with Donnie! I sure hope this stuff stops by the time the Leo one shot comes.

What really kills me, is that in past incarnations, we have had so little Donnie and Raph teamed up episodes. With Casey now in the mix, I just can't believe they don't use that to incorporated more Donnie and Raph team ups. And in this particular show, Raph and April seemed to have the least of a friendship going. There really is no excuse.

[xChri5x]

James Hong also played the villain in Big Trouble in Little China that this whole episode is based off
http://i.imgur.com/A2OYkSf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BeTMHIB.jpg

[Metalwolf]

Edit: Forgot to ask...was Donnie's lab shown, and if so, was frozen Mutagen Man still there?They did show Donnie's lab, but it was mostly shots of the computer and Donnie and Casey looking over at it. I didn't see Mutagen Man.

I actually enjoyed this episode, it showed there could be a supernatural side to things and not just Kraang related. I bet that horror stuff is going to reappear one the Dream Beavers show. Also Steranko was paying those guys to steal the artifact, his greed is going to be getting him in trouble sooner or later...

Edit: One thing I also noticed- The 'mist' of April's powers never got returned to her. Maybe she's been depowered now?

[JTH]

And, I hate to say it, but I am really starting to dislike Donatello, just due to the fact the 90% of the freaking show is revolving around him.
1. That's a complete lie and you know it is.
2. Like no Turtles show has EVER focused on one turtle before...

Just because your favorite turtle isn't focused as much as the others doesn't inherit you to speak fallacies over one that is.

[snake]

Good episode. I wish the purple dragons kept the powers.


7/10

[Warhorse]

1. That's a complete lie and you know it is.
2. Like no Turtles show has EVER focused on one turtle before...

Just because your favorite turtle isn't focused as much as the others doesn't inherit you to speak fallacies over one that is.

It's not a lie and it's not false. Get a grip dude!

[snake]

It's not a lie and it's not false. Get a grip dude!

Well, if you count up all the episodes, it's actually Leo who gets the most I believe.

[Ashwolf]

I actually enjoyed this episode, it showed there could be a supernatural side to things and not just Kraang related.

Edit: One thing I also noticed- The 'mist' of April's powers never got returned to her. Maybe she's been depowered now?

gotta agree, i hope the show continues to take that angle and have more supernatural/elemental additions


on aprils abilities, i think its only a fraction that might be gone, not all of her power

[TigerClaw]

Ho Chan is voiced by James Hong.

Many probably remember him as the voice of Da Long Wong from Jackie Chan Adventures.

I think that's the fourth V.A. to come over from that show.
He was also David Lo Pan in Big Trouble in Little China.

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130901063148/villains/images/1/16/Lo-Pan_Evil_Smile.png

[Warhorse]

Well, if you count up all the episodes, it's actually Leo who gets the most I believe.

I said arcs. Donnie has-April, Casey, Krang, Mutagen Man/Timothy,Baxter Stockman, all the technological/biology stuff, the antimutagen, and he even will get the Karai arcs whenever she is targeting April. Also, he's going to be taking over Raph's position as the one to butt heads with Leo, and he's going to be taking over Leo's position temporarily with the leadership duties.

Leo has Splinter, Karai, the Purple Dragons, Tiger Claw, Shredder, and is the leader of the group.

Mikey has Icecream Kitty, Bradford, and his jokes and once in a while he shows he is very smart.

Raph-once in a while has Slash, Fishface, his temper and we can always count on either him smacking one of his brothers around, or Splinter smacking him around. But other than that? What else does he have? He don't seem to have the friendship he's had in other incarnations with Leo, Mikey and Casey? They took his pet turtle away who was a regular, and is now Slash, but he is now more of an enemy. And he doesn't even have his trademark bike that he rides and likes to work on like in previous installments. But, I guess time will tell. Maybe they are waiting for later on in seasons 3 and 4 to bring out the best Raph and Mikey plot arcs. So, I guess I do have faith, because when they do write great episodes, they hit it out of the park.

gotta agree, i hope the show continues to take that angle and have more supernatural/elemental additions


on aprils abilities, i think its only a fraction that might be gone, not all of her power

So, you think Irma has something too, or was the ghost just playing around?

[TigerClaw]

I said arcs. Donnie has-April, Casey, Krang, Mutagen Man/Timothy,Baxter Stockman, all the technological/biology stuff, the antimutagen, and he even will get the Karai arcs whenever she is targeting April. Also, he's going to be taking over Raph's position as the one to butt heads with Leo, and he's going to be taking over Leo's position temporarily with the leadership duties.

Leo has Splinter, Karai, the Purple Dragons, Tiger Claw, Shredder, and is the leader of the group.

Mikey has Icecream Kitty, Bradford, and his jokes and once in a while he shows he is very smart.

Raph-once in a while has Slash, Fishface, his temper and we can always count on either him smacking one of his brothers around, or Splinter smacking him around. But other than that? What else does he have? He don't seem to have the friendship he's had in other incarnations with Leo, Mikey and Casey? They took his pet turtle away who was a regular, and is now Slash, but he is now more of an enemy. And he doesn't even have his trademark bike that he rides and likes to work on like in previous installments. But, I guess time will tell. Maybe they are waiting for later on in seasons 3 and 4 to bring out the best Raph and Mikey plot arcs. So, I guess I do have faith, because when they do write great episodes, they hit it out of the park.



So, you think Irma has something too, or was the ghost just playing around?
Irma has Green Eyes, Which is another homage to Big Trouble in Little China, Where Lo Pan needed women with Green Eyes to become human again.

[victory_angel]

gotta agree, i hope the show continues to take that angle and have more supernatural/elemental additions


on aprils abilities, i think its only a fraction that might be gone, not all of her power

Unless she some how gets them back once Ho Chen was defeated.

but that plot doesn't make sense. April has spiritual powers because she is a half human/half Kraang 'mutant'. So how would Ho Chen know she has the power he needs to bring him back.

It would have been better if he had kidnapped Irma for her inexpiable power, and then realize April has powers too and be confused as to how she had them.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I've not read through the whole thread but did anyone notice that Ho Chan sensed a power in Irma? Was that just a throw away line? Also the line about the jumpsuit was AWESOME! As was Casey's line when he yelled "NOOOOOO!" for April and then "nooo" for Irma. I thought it was a really fun episode and thought Ho Chan was a really fun character. I also am sick of the Donnie/April thing though but don't believe they will ever go through with it. I mean the Turtles, in some form or another, have always thought April was hot or whatever. I really thought the fight scene in the tornado was super cool.

[VaughnMichael]

This episode was pretty meh for me.
The only things I really liked in this episode was the fact that some information about Irma is tossed at us and we're told they've been looking for Karai but with no luck.
The Purple Dragons really did remind me of the Foot Mystics until I realized this was a spoof of Big Trouble In Little China.
This one really came off also as a bad episode of the 80's toon.
I found it hard to keep my attention honestly but that probably had to do with the fact that I'm just so over the Donatello & Casey bickering over friggin April thing.
I really have to wonder how much longer they're going to keep Irma in the dark.
My guess is predictably when she gets mutated.:lol:
There are some funny moments like when Casey & Don are trying to find info on the ghost and get a take out place instead lol
But over all it was kind of boring honestly and I don't know about the people saying it was like a 2k3 episode, I think they would have handled this sort of episode a little better.
It was intended to be a funny filler episode. Not sure why everything has to be plot changing.
I really try to ignore you a lot because I seriously think you're nothing more than a troll but you seriously have a lot of nerve criticizing anyone or getting offended because people don't like something.
You go ape sh1t any time a character from the past is brought into this show and has slight changes done to them or even before we see them you go on a tirade and threaten to do this or that to the people working on the how or vow to stop being a fan (if only they could be that lucky).
Don't even get me started on the things you said to people in the movie section that enjoyed that film.
I mean I thought it was total rubbish personally but I'm not going to run around and come down on people for what they enjoy.
You really need to understand that not everyone is going to like things and not everyone is going to think everything is great just like you don't.:roll:

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

This episode was pretty meh for me.
The only things I really liked in this episode was the fact that some information about Irma is tossed at us and we're told they've been looking for Karai but with no luck.
The Purple Dragons really did remind me of the Foot Mystics until I realized this was a spoof of Big Trouble In Little China.
This one really came off also as a bad episode of the 80's toon.
I found it hard to keep my attention honestly but that probably had to do with the fact that I'm just so over the Donatello & Casey bickering over friggin April thing.
I really have to wonder how much longer they're going to keep Irma in the dark.
My guess is predictably when she gets mutated.:lol:

I really try to ignore you a lot because I seriously think you're nothing more than a troll but you seriously have a lot of nerve criticizing anyone or getting offended because people don't like something.
You go ape sh1t any time a character from the past is brought into this show and has slight changes done to them or even before we see them you go on a tirade and threaten to do this or that to the people working on the how or vow to stop being a fan (if only they could be that lucky).
Don't even get me started on the things you said to people in the movie section that enjoyed that film.
I mean I thought it was total rubbish personally but I'm not going to run around and come down on people for what they enjoy.
You really need to understand that not everyone is going to like things and not everyone is going to think everything is great just like you don't.:roll:

Irma is already sorta edgy sometimes. Can you imagine how cranky she would be if she got mutated?! LOL!

[Raph's Girl]

Uh interesting episode. The only thing I got out of it was that Irma also has powers. Plus, was it just me or did her skirt look like the Tardis?

[Vicky82]

I thought this was a good episode, the CG and music were great but I thought the villian Ho Chan was a bit lame. This episode is not in my top 10.

Nice to see the Purple Drangons back and they seemed to be working for Steranko.

Donnie and Casey's rivalry over April was a bit annoying but it did get better throughout the episode and were able to work together.
I noticed It isn't just Donnie being jelous over April being with Casey but Casey was seemed to be getting jelous too.

It's good that this episode is the aftermath of the last eisode and the turtles focus was to look for Karai.

The Purple Dragons get turned into Ho Chans Henchman mystiques with powers and they wear hats. They look similar to the Foot Elite guards and the Foot Mystics from the 2K3 show.

Ho Chan reminded me of Jafar from Aladdin

Karai's mutation has really effected Splinter and they don't like to see him like that especially Mikey, he seemed more serious in this episode (but he did joke a few times) and he said wanted to keep serching for Karia more. He was defintly toned down alot this episode

I didn't expect Irma to be in this episode and apparently she has some sort of power, interesting. I guess this will be explored more in Season 3.

I liked that Mikey thought the hats were awesome, it's a shame they didn't say 'Nice Hats' line.

Leo, Raph and Mikey get turned into mystics and they looked pretty badass. I think this foreshadowing the upcoming vision quest episode in season 3.

First time Mikey is under contol was a nice change.

Donnie fighting his brothers in the tornado was great.

Donnie and Casey working together to fight Ho Chan was great.

April is becoming more badass and her ninja skills are improving.

April stabs Ho Chan in the chest/gut in his physical form was shocking, I thought that was pretty dark for a kids show.

[Autbot_Benz]

it was an ok episode more like Filler episode

[Ninjinister]

As a big fan of Big Trouble in Little China, I loved the s**t out of this, even if it was rather on-the-nose.

Plus, was it just me or did her skirt look like the Tardis?

A what?

[Autbot_Benz]

As a big fan of Big Trouble in Little China, I loved the s**t out of this, even if it was rather on-the-nose.



A what?

The Tardis is the ship/time machine used on Dr Who it resembles a 1960's police box

[CyberCubed]

It amazes me the sheer mass of people who didn't realize the ghost was supposed to be lame and humorous on purpose. Not every villain has to be badass, mean and one dimensional. It's like people can't take a joke these days.

[MiBs]

very pleasent surprise, that the episode aired a week earlier. Thought it was quite good. Nice action scenes, that it had a bit of a dark tone at the end and the evil spirit plot was good. I'm glad that even though it was a filler, they delt with Karai's mutation - that they'd searched for her for weeks and that it had a big impact on Splinter. I'm a little meh on the whole Donnie/April/Casey thing, I really hope that it will have some more serious plotline later on - that they had to work together to fix the situation helped a little though.

[Metalwolf]

It amazes me the sheer mass of people who didn't realize the ghost was supposed to be lame and humorous on purpose. Not every villain has to be badass, mean and one dimensional. It's like people can't take a joke these days.This is one of the times that I agree. I actually thought the ghost guy was cool, and this episode didn't have the irritating feel like the Pizzaface episode or bore me like the Malachi one. Maybe they should send a few scary ghosts over to Shredder's lair, I'd love to see all of his baddies crap themselves in horror.

I hope they have more movie spoofs in the future :)

[TurtleTitan97]

I thought it was a decent filler episode. Not one of my top favorites, but it did have its moments.

[MrTMNT2012]

It felt like I was watching something out of the freaking Kung Fu Panda Show! Waste of production.

This season does have a lot of the same writers as other terrible Nick Shows so it's not that surprising...

[Ninjinister]

It felt like I was watching something out of the freaking Kung Fu Panda Show! Waste of production.


Dude wtf Kung Fu Panda is such a kickass show. Easily the only show on the channel next to Turtles that I feel is worth watching.

[CyberCubed]

It felt like I was watching something out of the freaking Kung Fu Panda Show! Waste of production.

This season does have a lot of the same writers as other terrible Nick Shows so it's not that surprising...

I really hope you're joking.

[MrTMNT2012]

Dude wtf Kung Fu Panda is such a kickass show. Easily the only show on the channel next to Turtles that I feel is worth watching.

You seriously need to watch Korra...

[Ninturtle]

I really hope you're joking.

The writing has been worse this season exept for a few exceptions the humor has gotten worse i barely laugh at this show since season 2 season 1 had much clever jokes they felt more character based . the only really good episodes were invasion of the squirrelanoids , slash and destroy ,the good the bad and caey jones ,metal head re wired ,of rats and men , mazes and mutants , the lonley mutation of baxter stockman , the wrath of tiger claw , and vengeance is mine . theres some pretty good episodes but awful ones like the mutation situation , the kraang conspriracy , pizza face , and plan 10 . This episode was simply ok .

[Ninjinister]

You seriously need to watch Korra...

The heck is Korra?

EDIT: Wait is that that Airbender sequel? Ew, no thanks.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, that's The Legend of Korra.

[MrTMNT2012]

The heck is Korra?

EDIT: Wait is that that Airbender sequel? Ew, no thanks.

"Wait, the sequel to the Primetime Emmy and Peabody Award Winning Avatar: The Last Airbender? No thanks!"

[CyberCubed]

The writing has been worse this season exept for a few exceptions the humor has gotten worse i barely laugh at this show since season 2 season 1 had much clever jokes they felt more character based . the only really good episodes were invasion of the squirrelanoids , slash and destroy ,the good the bad and caey jones ,metal head re wired ,of rats and men , mazes and mutants , the lonley mutation of baxter stockman , the wrath of tiger claw , and vengeance is mine . theres some pretty good episodes but awful ones like the mutation situation , the kraang conspriracy , pizza face , and plan 10 . This episode was simply ok .

The jokes are the same.

[Mukouno]

"Wait, the sequel to the Primetime Emmy and Peabody Award Winning Avatar: The Last Airbender? No thanks!"

... Just because something has tons of awards, prizes and whatever doesn't mean that everybody has to like it. Just as something that is widely seen as rather badly written can have its fair share of fans.
And to be honest, I loved Avatar: The Last Airbender, but I just can't get into Korra. I've watched the first season and it just didn't appeal to me. (Mainly because of Korra herself, I just don't like hotheads in general, plus she's arrogant, cocky, violent... And don't get me started on hitting on and kissing a guy who was still in a relationship...) I don't even know if I'll ever watch the second season.

But to get back to the episode...
Upon reading the description for the first time my expectations were as low as can be. I really felt that the timing was off. They have an alien invasion to stop, retromutagen to make, some kind of mecha to build... But Donnie still has time to be jealous? Wow, priorities...

Well, those were my thoughts back then, but after watching this episode it wasn't as bad as I expected.

They did reference the last episode, they actually are searching for Karai, so I'll give them credit for that. Would have been really weird if they didn't after such a dramatic and tragic episode. I would have prefered a whole episode dealing with the aftermath of her mutation, but oh well. Better than nothing.

So yeah, as I said I don't really care about Donnie's and Casey's issues, as long as they keep it to a minimum and get along in the end I can deal with it. And it's not like the jealousy stuff dominated the whole episode as the description made it sound like.

Also, I'm not sure what to think about the whole magic and ghost stuff, I mean aliens, mutants and such are a different kind of supernatural than ghosts and magic for me. Hm, somewhat torn on that. It's cool, but I'm not sure if it mixes in well...

On a more positive note, I really like what they do with Mikey's character in the recent episodes. They really highlight his understanding of emotions and he was pretty serious for his standard but still retained his humor, like when he listed unusual places where snakes could hide.
Please, keep it up like that!

The foreshadowing with Irma was well done, I'm really curious what her powers might be. It can't be too long until she finally meets the turtles.

I kinda like silly villains, as long as they are not the main ones, so Ho Chen was definetely a character I enjoyed. I don't think he will return, but I wouldn't mind if he did.

The fight scenes were also pretty awesome, especially the one in the tornado. And April is getting better and better, I really enjoy watching her fight the bad guys on her own.
And for once, April was actually selfless, like when she told Donnie and Casey to run away because Ho Chen was too powerful. I'm not a big fan of her, but that scene made me kinda like her a bit more.

So yeah, all in all a rather meh and forgettable filler overall, but nonetheless with a few interesting scenes in between.
5.5 out of 10.

But now that this episode is over, we can finally get to the good stuff. I can't wait for the last three episodes, I'm counting the days, haha. :lol:
I'm super excited to see Mikey on his own and Leo getting oneshotted.
Bring it on!

[Megchan]

I think this episode was meh. Donnie and Casey arguing just really grated my nerves. Casey's too clingy to April, at least Donnie gives her her space. Irma was so freaking close to seeing the guys! I feel like pulling out my hair and screaming. XD I really wish she'd just meet them already. I know I have to be patient, it just frustrates me how close she was. Also I really loved how bad ass April was in this episode. Guess she's mastered jumping rooftops.

Oh, and is it just me or did the "dragon" on Ho Chan's robe kinda look like a Kraang?

[Netkeeper]

Why does this show just not spend any time elaborating on anything at all? Why does everything move so fast? Jesus ****, slow down.

[drgon78]

Great episode, not only is this a non-foot/mutant/krang enemy but it is supernatural. I love the Big Trouble in Little China stuff they slipped in.

I am really curious about what power he sensed from Irma that he didn't understand.

[BabyTurtles]

ugh.....I knew I wouldn't like this episode.....Donnie and Casey pinning over April was VERY VERY annoying.

I was not amused by the pizza distraction......

though Irma having something in her peeks my interests....(though I still kinda hope she's a normal girl)

Casey was so bad this episode.....this whole love triangle is making him look bad...(same with Donnie)

would it kill the writers to pair April up with people who DON'T have a CRUSH on her?????

[Cure]

Yo, this episode was dope. The only thing I didn't care for was Irma having something special about her, too. She's gonna be around more and that suuuucks.

[Powder]

Am I the only one who didn't think they were trying to say she actually has powers? I interpreted his comments to mean "Oh, well, you must be special too, otherwise these guys wouldn't have brought you here..." as she was an unexpected guest. Or, it was a gag about how he "complimented" one & not the other. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I took it.

[snake]

Yo, this episode was dope. The only thing I didn't care for was Irma having something special about her, too. She's gonna be around more and that suuuucks.

Totally agree. I groaned at the Irma part, but everything else was great.

[victory_angel]

I thought it was a big throw off to have Donnie and Casey give April full credit for saving the day. Yes she made the defeating blow, but Donnie and Casey had equal credit for defeating Ho Chen. So I feel it would have been better to say that the three of them had saved the day together indicating that while the two boys are rivals, they can also effectively function as a team.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I thought it was a big throw off to have Donnie and Casey give April full credit for saving the day. Yes she made the defeating blow, but Donnie and Casey had equal credit for defeating Ho Chen. So I feel it would have been better to say that the three of them had saved the day together indicating that while the two boys are rivals, they can also effectively function as a team.

But that wouldn't do them any favors in their quest for the heart of April. I think they were just trying to butter her up. Girls are weird and like it when boys are nice to them. LOL.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Am I the only one who didn't think they were trying to say she actually has powers? I interpreted his comments to mean "Oh, well, you must be special too, otherwise these guys wouldn't have brought you here..." as she was an unexpected guest. Or, it was a gag about how he "complimented" one & not the other. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I took it.

I actually put in my initial post in this thread that I'm curious about that line myself. I'm not sure if he meant that she actually had powers or if it was just some throwaway line that I didn't really "get". If they mutated her I think that would be super lame or even if the Kraang wanted her I also think that would be lame. I actually like the character as she is right now though.

[Netkeeper]

would it kill the writers to pair April up with people who DON'T have a CRUSH on her?????
Or nobody at all.

The only thing I didn't care for was Irma having something special about her, too. She's gonna be around more and that suuuucks.
I don't think it's bad that Irma is going to be around more, but I do think it's bad that a character can't seem to get focus unless they're a mutant or planning to become a mutant or have weird powers.

Am I the only one who didn't think they were trying to say she actually has powers? I interpreted his comments to mean "Oh, well, you must be special too, otherwise these guys wouldn't have brought you here..." as she was an unexpected guest. Or, it was a gag about how he "complimented" one & not the other. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I took it.
I hope so. I know it can easily be interpreted that way, but I don't necessarily trust the staff not to do something dumb with her.

[victory_angel]

I actually put in my initial post in this thread that I'm curious about that line myself. I'm not sure if he meant that she actually had powers or if it was just some throwaway line that I didn't really "get". If they mutated her I think that would be super lame or even if the Kraang wanted her I also think that would be lame. I actually like the character as she is right now though.

I think that if she does have powers, It's not the same as April's abilities. While it could be possible that she could be a half-Kraang/ Half Human mutation like April is. After all I don't think April's mother was the only pregnant (supposedly pregnant) the Kraang has experimented on. So there could be other people similar to April wondering about.

However I hope that is not the way they are going to go with Irma, it would be too lazy to have every human Character tied to the Kraang. All we know
is she has powers that Ho Chen did not understand.

And since we have seen nothing to give us the impression that Irma is not as human as she seems. Perhaps this could be something entirely new and made up for this incarnation.

[Warhorse]

I think that if she does have powers, It's not the same as April's abilities. While it could be possible that she could be a half-Kraang/ Half Human mutation like April is. After all I don't think April's mother was the only pregnant (supposedly pregnant) the Kraang has experimented on. So there could be other people similar to April wondering about.

However I hope that is not the way they are going to go with Irma, it would be too lazy to have every human Character tied to the Kraang. All we know
is she has powers that Ho Chen did not understand.

And since we have seen nothing to give us the impression that Irma is not as human as she seems. Perhaps this could be something entirely new and made up for this incarnation.
Well, it's curious that the school that April and Irma is attending, had Krang infilterating as teachers, maybe there is more than just April that might have been experimented on. Heck, maybe even Casey. He sure can take one helluva an ass whoopin and not get seriously hurt. Really, some of the falls he has, a normal human would have had a few broken ribs by now.

[Ninturtle]

The jokes are the same.

Theres a ton of fart and burp jokes now . theres sometimes not even a episode that make me laugh once season 1 had more character driven humor not toilet humor

[Warhorse]

Theres a ton of fart and burp jokes now . theres sometimes not even a episode that make me laugh once season 1 had more character driven humor not toilet humor

Oh yeah, I am getting sick, literally sick, of the burp jokes. It's cute maybe once or twice a season, but not every episode. And I really detested Mikey having a huge belch before blowing himself off screen. It's just so stupid. This is beyond juvenile humor, this is stuff that super drunk college kids do at the dorms. Maybe that is the target audience now for some of these episodes.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This episode was sort of okay. The most annoying thing about it was Don vs Casey. I swear this is by far the worst episode that handles this issue. It's nice that they worked together eventually but for the most part, they both just got on my freaking nerves. Don is such a pawn to April and Casey was so clingy. Irma's line where she wonders what she sees in him (not sure if she is falling for him yet) makes me feel like she needs to be in this show more often. Is it weird that I like Irma more than April in this show?

[ssjup81]

This episode was sort of okay. The most annoying thing about it was Don vs Casey. I swear this is by far the worst episode that handles this issue. It's nice that they worked together eventually but for the most part, they both just got on my freaking nerves. Don is such a pawn to April and Casey was so clingy. Irma's line where she wonders what she sees in him (not sure if she is falling for him yet) makes me feel like she needs to be in this show more often. Is it weird that I like Irma more than April in this show?Nope. I too prefer Irma to April. I just find her more interesting by comparison.

Edit: Forgot to ask, but what exactly happened to spark the jealousy in the first place? To me the triangle thing has been pretty low key. We have situations where Donnie doesn't react to Casey and April hanging. What made this time so different?

[ssjup81]

So I finally got a way to watch this new ep through my mobile. Boy did this cheer me up. I hope I didn't disturb any fellow patients with my goofy, super happy laugh. :lol:

Anywho, time to get down to business.

*cracks knuckles*

At the beginning where Casey, April, and Donnie were searching for Karai and Casey and Donnie were arguing did feel highly out of character for both boys. I would expect showing off for April during a non-mission situation, or in a casual one, not this. I was expecting, though, more to the jealousy thing, but it really wasn't.

The hug Casey gave April and Donnie breaking them up was weird, but I wonder if he reacted because of the look on April's face...if he saw it. Other than that, that was totally weird to me. I just couldn't see him doing that normally. That felt OOC too.

I loved Raph's "What kind of friends are you?" line after Donnie told them that the y ran into the Purple Dragon.

Oh I loved Mikey for this ep, like how he joked some but was serious at the same time. He's still lighthearted in nature, but he's in pain over Splinter. I love how he was trying to think of places where snakes hang out.

I enjoyed the Purple Dragon gang for this ep. I liked how Ho Chan addressed them, and speaking of him, I thought he was funny, like how he did the "L" for loser thing to the Purple Dragon. Oh and the yellow jumpsuit joke was funny. He also came across as being purposely over the top and maybe incompetent...so I kinda feel that the power stuff he sensed with Irma was bogus and assumed she had power because she was brought along with April.

Oh, is it wrong that I was expecting an OT style joke as to why Ho Chan could speak English despite being from ancient China? :lol:

Sucks Irma missed the turtles, again, but I hope Irma calls BS to the bump thing because the ice rink should be damaged still. Oh and at this point, I'll agree that Irma doesn't care for Casey much, given her, "I don't know what you see in him" statement. When the girls were kidnapped, I did laugh at Casey's "NOOOOOOOOOOO" and "noooooooooo". Obviously played for laughs.

The fight in the tornado was really nice. TBH, the elements suited the turtles, I felt.

I like how Casey and Donnie worked together and April getting the final hit in was great. I really liked April in general for this ep. Her fighting skills have truly improved.

The end with the peace hug felt so cheesy. :lol:

I wonder if Ho Chan is going to come back in some way. What if the Kraang discover it? They are underwater somewhere.

So, overall this ep was ok. It had plenty of funny moments for me, but I will say the negative was how overly exaggerated Casey and Donnie were. Wormquake felt more natural, but feel it was done on purpose to get it out of the way. I couldn't see this going on during actual serious plot moments, like when the Kraang invades, Leo's beat down, and them fleeing the city. There'd be too much on everyone's minds to have Donnie and Casey mindlessly bickering over April.

Oh, one more thing. When Donnie pointed out that maybe Karai was gone for good, I was expecting Leo to say something like, "No, you're wrong!" but Mikey spoke up instead about how they should continue searching. Very interesting, imo.Irma has Green Eyes, Which is another homage to Big Trouble in Little China, Where Lo Pan needed women with Green Eyes to become human again.So I guess that's Irma's power. Using her would've made him fully human again as opposed to partially with April. :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

I haven't seen the episode yet as I'm waiting for Friday. But to me, perhaps Irma's "powers" are her powers of being perceptive such as when she comments on April's relationship with Casey and how she's always been brutally honest about things. That's just my guess on the whole thing.

[Kanon]

The cg lookes really good in that, maybe they improved it somehow?:D

The story felt odd. There should have been more emotions because of Karai.

It felt like some random filler episode. :cry:

[snake]

It felt like I was watching something out of the freaking Kung Fu Panda Show! Waste of production.

This season does have a lot of the same writers as other terrible Nick Shows so it's not that surprising...

KFP is pretty good. Did you ever watch it or the movies?

[MrTMNT2012]

KFP is pretty good. Did you ever watch it or the movies?

I love the movies and I liked the episode 'Enter the Dragon' but otherwise, the show is your typical Nickelodeon garbage.

[OrangeNinja1987]

I liked this episode. It was really good, but it's not in my top 10 because this show just has so many amazing episodes (the only one I can find nothing to enjoy in is Pizza Face). I like Apritello, but the love triangle just really annoys me. It didn't feel like something Donnie would do, trying to pull Casey and April out of their hug. But I thought April's annoyed face while he was doing it was pretty funny.
I thought Ho Chan was a very fun villain. I was expecting one turtle to ask, "If he's from ancient China, then why does he speak English?" and for another to reply, "Because we couldn't afford subtitles" because that's a joke I love from the OT. Missed opportunity not saying it. :lol:
The animation was amazing in this episode. I've loved watching the show gradually get better and better visually. And Mikey was great this episode (in most of the past few episodes, I've noticed his humor has gotten better for the most part). His line about thinking of where snakes hang out actually was a clever joke, opposed to his stupid "What if cupcakes could talk?" jokes from the season premiere.
Loved that April is getting to be a better kunoichi. I just wish that part of her was focused more on instead of the love triangle. Pretty dark the way she stabbed Ho Chan.
I wonder what Irma's power is. I don't think it will be like April's, because Ho Chan said he couldn't understand what hers was and asked her to explain it, whereas he knew the power April had. My mind's blank. I can't wait to see what's special about her. I really like this version of Irma. It's funny that she's not nearly as clumsy as OT Irma and doesn't go crazy over boys, either, but still feels like the perfect Irma.
Okay, now I'm rambling.

[Vicky82]

I love how much detail was used on the webpage.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c3ecb793c14138a2915a71fede5467a5/tumblr_inline_nbjcpo9v2l1rvfipj.jpg

Did anyone else notice the tabs on top of the webpage 'TisQuiz: What Goat are you? :lol::lol::lol:

Casey has a metal plate in his head.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/5a3275ef61292b0fc171e86ab7bb35ce/tumblr_nbil7vGNiP1selbgso1_500.png

[Ninjinister]

I love how much detail was used on the webpage.

Did anyone else notice the tabs on top of the webpage 'TisQuiz: What Goat are you? :lol::lol::lol:

Casey has a metal plate in his head.


Good catches!

[Vicky82]

Good catches!

Thanks, but I don't want to take all the credit. I got it from Tumblr.

[Donatello19]

Eh, it was a decent episode I guess, at least they actually mentioned Karai. Donnie and Casey are really annoying though...didn't they go through this exact same thing in Wormquake/The Manhattan Project? I was at least hoping that Irma would finally meet the turtles.

[snake]

I love how much detail was used on the webpage.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c3ecb793c14138a2915a71fede5467a5/tumblr_inline_nbjcpo9v2l1rvfipj.jpg

Did anyone else notice the tabs on top of the webpage 'TisQuiz: What Goat are you? :lol::lol::lol:

Casey has a metal plate in his head.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/5a3275ef61292b0fc171e86ab7bb35ce/tumblr_nbil7vGNiP1selbgso1_500.png

That's a lot of info for a split second thing. What about the other site they visited? The food one. Anyone have a screencap?

EDIT- Turns out its real!
http://www.hochanhouse.com/en/

[VaughnMichael]

It would seem we're all pretty split on this episode.
For those of us that don't like it as much as others it could have to do with the long wait and this being the first thing to come on.
I find it easier to handle episodes that really don't have much to do with the story when they come right after a big episode giving a lot of the plot away.
This long breaks between episodes are really a buzz kill btw, I know they really want to stretch the show out but it would be great to just play it all and be done with it.
I know it's been said to death but I've not said it before so I'm adding my 2 cents as well.
I am happy the shows back though finally and now on to Dimension X!

[Teddy]

Gah! Stupid country blocks. >.< These are the days I miss living in the US.

[Tiekarin]

I feel your pain, Teddy...

[evan2000]

Gah! Stupid country blocks. >.< These are the days I miss living in the US.

I feel your pain, Teddy...

Not a problem if you guys are using Google Chrome with Hola (http://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hola-better-internet/gkojfkhlekighikafcpjkiklfbnlmeio).

[Warhorse]

Gah! Stupid country blocks. >.< These are the days I miss living in the US.

HA! It's not just country blocks. Right now, I have Direct TV satellite, and apparently they are in a contract dispute with Fox, so until they can come to an agreement on something, Direct TV has no choice but to pull the plug on all Fox programming. I know other cities are having the same problems with CBS and it sucks how these premium TV providers and the broadcast channels are using the consumer, us, as a means to an end. It's greed on their part. The broadcast stations already make their money via commercials, why do they need to now charge a fee for satellite/cable providers to use them, when in reality, all the providers are doing is making sure that their stations are being watched by more people. The more people watching, the more chance they are catching the commercials, the more commercials that are being watched, the more money the stations can start to charge to advertise on their station. What can I say, these business men, for some reason, are making watching TV and movies a challenge for us. You'd think they would want as many people watching their sh!t with the least amount of hassel.

[BubblyShell22]

Hmm, that's weird. I get DirecTV and Fox is showing on mine though there was a brief difficulty a few weeks ago. I have it tuned to the football game right now.

[saintsaucey]

Having never seen BTILC I didn't get the refference at all. I did recognize James Hongs voice.

Loved the yellow jumpsuit line and the comment about Irma having powers deffinantly has me intrigued.

I felt they wasted an oportunity to do a serious Mortal Combat rip off. When the first thug was given lightning powers I imediately thought of Raiden. I was rooting for the other two to become scorpion and subzero. Donnie even annoyed me in this episode but the Casey is just as bad.

I still don't like Casey's design. They've made him more iron man than batman.

How are they powering the battle shell with out the power crystal

[Ninturtle]

Having never seen BTILC I didn't get the refference at all. I did recognize James Hongs voice.

Loved the yellow jumpsuit line and the comment about Irma having powers deffinantly has me intrigued.

I felt they wasted an oportunity to do a serious Mortal Combat rip off. When the first thug was given lightning powers I imediately thought of Raiden. I was rooting for the other two to become scorpion and subzero. Donnie even annoyed me in this episode but the Casey is just as bad.

I still don't like Casey's design. They've made him more iron man than batman.

How are they powering the battle shell with out the power crystal

Caseys design is made of hockey equipment it looks as it should , don't understand how he looks like ironman

[evan2000]

How are they powering the battle shell with out the power crystal

Towards the ending of The Pulverizer it was shown that the turtles lost the power cell/crystal and had to manually push the Shellraiser home, back to Donnie's lab/garage. In the next episode, TCRI, they were shown using the Go Karts (Donnie: it's a Patrol Buggy! :tgrumble:) to chase the Kraang's helicopter. And then in the following episode, Cockroach Terminator, the Shellraiser was shown fully functioning again and even had upgrades (manhole cover launcher and built-in Stealth Bike).

My speculation is that Donnie spent his time from the ending of The Pulverizer to the beginning of Cockroach Terminator fixing up the Shellraiser, changed the powering mechanism (could be batteries, fuel or other portable power generators), added new weapons, and built the Stealth Bike into it (it was also never mentioned what was powering the Stealth Bike and Go... erm Patrol Buggy, but their engine sounds suggest they are gasoline powered). And then he used the left over parts and batteries to build Spy-roach's strap-on gears.

But whatever is powering the Shellraiser now, it has to be something generating electricity since Leatherhead's subway car was originally electric-powered, and the power cell was also generating electricity to power the Shellraiser previously. Besides, electricity is needed anyway to power all the other weapons, lights, cameras and monitor displays in the Shellraiser itself.

[BubblyShell22]

I think it is electricity because I remember one of the writers saying that a scene was cut explaining how the Shellraiser was working again even though they'd written it in.

[Shark_Blade]

Thank God for Hola.

Great episode, love the supernatural power effects. And Irma! :tlove: She has power??? :teek:

Ho Chan is such a hillarious villain, he makes a L (loser) symbol on his forehead to the Purple Dragons! :lol::tlol: That's when I totally lost it. "I see.. a yellow jumpsuit.... no, it's just a t-shirt" :lol:it.


:tlol: This show is such a blessing. OT April ftw. :tlove:

[PRD13]

I doubt Irma has any actual powers, I think it was just a nod to BTILC, because Ho Chan was noticing her green eyes.

Splinter, Shredder and Tiger Claw have all spoken Japanese with subtitles before, it would have been a nice touch to have Ho Chan speak Chinese at least whilst doing his incantations.

I get that Donnie and Casey are both snotty, horny teenagers, but the opening scene did seem out of character for both of them, and it seems odd that April is so passive about it.

[Tiekarin]

Uh interesting episode. The only thing I got out of it was that Irma also has powers. Plus, was it just me or did her skirt look like the Tardis?

Actually, that was my exact thought, when I first saw Irma.


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All in all, the episode was really not as bad as I imagined.

[victory_angel]

Towards the ending of The Pulverizer it was shown that the turtles lost the power cell/crystal and had to manually push the Shellraiser home, back to Donnie's lab/garage. In the next episode, TCRI, they were shown using the Go Karts (Donnie: it's a Patrol Buggy! :tgrumble:) to chase the Kraang's helicopter. And then in the following episode, Cockroach Terminator, the Shellraiser was shown fully functioning again and even had upgrades (manhole cover launcher and built-in Stealth Bike).

My speculation is that Donnie spent his time from the ending of The Pulverizer to the beginning of Cockroach Terminator fixing up the Shellraiser, changed the powering mechanism (could be batteries, fuel or other portable power generators), added new weapons, and built the Stealth Bike into it (it was also never mentioned what was powering the Stealth Bike and Go... erm Patrol Buggy, but their engine sounds suggest they are gasoline powered). And then he used the left over parts and batteries to build Spy-roach's strap-on gears.

But whatever is powering the Shellraiser now, it has to be something generating electricity since Leatherhead's subway car was originally electric-powered, and the power cell was also generating electricity to power the Shellraiser previously. Besides, electricity is needed anyway to power all the other weapons, lights, cameras and monitor displays in the Shellraiser itself.

Or the stealth bike and manhole cover launcher were already there and we never saw a scene where they were introduced.


I think it is electricity because I remember one of the writers saying that a scene was cut explaining how the Shellraiser was working again even though they'd written it in.

According to Turtle Master the scene had donnie replacing the motor with a diesel engine.

[Ashwolf]

he makes a L (loser) symbol on his forehead to the Purple Dragons!

that part was really funny but as a villian for this and similiar plot lines, i felt that it couldve been a whole lot better

this episode turned out as i hoped parasitica wouldve been

bit of a indirect nod to parasitica but both eps were #23 in both seasons, so i think that ep #23 in season 3 and 4 might have sorta the same jist but 1 involving the kraang/shredder having the control and only raph or leo not being caught up during whatever process

[Geranus]

See the official kraang's droid and will understand what is so special in Irma

Excuse my English I do not speak

[Foombamaroom]

Alright, this is something that's really ticking me off: Didn't they ALREADY resolve Donnie and Casey's rivalry in Wormquake? For God's sake, now they're buddies again and that's going to change in the next episode. I can't stand this whole Apriltello thing: stop writing it in, it's ruining the show for lots of people. Have Donnie let go of April and his character will get so much better.

[Foombamaroom]

This episode was sort of okay. The most annoying thing about it was Don vs Casey. I swear this is by far the worst episode that handles this issue. It's nice that they worked together eventually but for the most part, they both just got on my freaking nerves. Don is such a pawn to April and Casey was so clingy. Irma's line where she wonders what she sees in him (not sure if she is falling for him yet) makes me feel like she needs to be in this show more often. Is it weird that I like Irma more than April in this show?
I'll take Irma over April any day of the week. April and Donnie have been ruined for me due to this whole crush thing. Like, Mikey acts like an idiot, but at least they've stopped doing that. Most of the episodes that April isn't in, such as Newtralizer for an example, are episodes I usually like since Donnie isn't freaking out over her.

[Gorilla Grodd]

This episode really made me want to go back and rewatch Big Trouble in Little China since I haven't seen it since I was a kid and remember very little about it.

Also to anyone having trouble getting the Nick.com video to load, if you do a little Google-Fu you can find /co/ archive pages with download links to the episode.

[saintsaucey]

I just don't like the idea of casey wearing pads, and the glove with the shock prod is too much. at least his face wasn't painted this time.

I really want Irma to have powers

[Geranus]

Irma is the kraang officer, see the season finale trailer

[Warhorse]

Alright, this is something that's really ticking me off: Didn't they ALREADY resolve Donnie and Casey's rivalry in Wormquake? For God's sake, now they're buddies again and that's going to change in the next episode. I can't stand this whole Apriltello thing: stop writing it in, it's ruining the show for lots of people. Have Donnie let go of April and his character will get so much better.

Id rather have April quit being a tease and just give Donnie a shot. I like his personality a helluva lot better than Casey's.

[Ninturtle]

Irma is the kraang officer, see the season finale trailer

but the kraang officer is voiced by gilbert god freid

[Geranus]

but the kraang officer is voiced by gilbert god freid
See the droid driving, are parts of the legs and skirt

Vean el droide que conduce, se ven partes del las piernas y la falda

lo siento la traduje con google no hablo ingles

[Megchan]

See the droid driving, are parts of the legs and skirt

Vean el droide que conduce, se ven partes del las piernas y la falda

lo siento la traduje con google no hablo ingles

Okay, I can see the legs but I'm having trouble seeing a skirt. I'll try watching it a few more times.

[pannoni1]

I just watched this episode (makes me nostalgic for being a kid and watching shows before school) and I felt that it wasn't the worst episode ever done, but it just can't compete with the best. Its all you can expect for a show targeted at the juvenille crowd with the mystical Ninja powers, but at least there is a pauseworthy scene (cool pop-up Antonio's Pizza reference) about Ho Chan's background. It almost felt more like a Scooby Doo episode.

Overall: 6/10

[Teddy]

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[kelligrafie]

Okay, I can see the legs but I'm having trouble seeing a skirt. I'll try watching it a few more times.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10639454_1532942573605935_8485431582688496142_n.jp g?oh=a282fbd5fc4400f99d1eaf18869ae720&oe=5496560F&__gda__=1418050608_fd5b8bbc786cafe1aaf0e4d80ce86e7 1

[shredder orokusaki]

Does it menas that Irma is a female Kraang?? Because is human but she is wokring with the kraang just like i do?

[MaximeLoonatic]

Or maybe that's an Irma android to lure April!

[Garfield]

I thought it was a fun episode. Some nods to Big Trouble in Little China. :)

[BabyTurtles]

Or maybe that's an Irma android to lure April!

no!!! T_T please...no...

[Metalwolf]

no!!! T_T please...no...I could see that happening unfortunately, as it would explain why Ho Chan couldn't understand her 'power.' :ohwell:

[JTH]

I just watched this episode (makes me nostalgic for being a kid and watching shows before school) and I felt that it wasn't the worst episode ever done, but it just can't compete with the best. Its all you can expect for a show targeted at the juvenille crowd with the mystical Ninja powers, but at least there is a pauseworthy scene (cool pop-up Antonio's Pizza reference) about Ho Chan's background. It almost felt more like a Scooby Doo episode.

Overall: 6/10
It felt like a Jackie Chan Adventures episode to me, even down to a James Hong voiced magical mystical villain.

Which doesn't bother me one bit.

[MaximeLoonatic]

no!!! T_T please...no...
What I mean and android who looks like Irma, not the real one!
It happened in the Turtle Terminator episode

[ssjup81]

I could see that happening unfortunately, as it would explain why Ho Chan couldn't understand her 'power.' :ohwell:
I thought it was a bogus claim given the character and only said that because she was brought alongside April and there was that "green eye" thing which could've been the basis of the power joke based on the film the ep was spoofing.

That aside, what's wrong with Irma luring out April? Personally I want her more involved.

[Luckyday]

I wonder who wrote/directed this episode?

[Ninturtle]

What I mean and android who looks like Irma, not the real one!
It happened in the Turtle Terminator episode

or what if the kraang brainwashed irma because she was close to april

[snake]

I wonder who wrote/directed this episode?

Check the credits. It wasn't a bad episode in my opinion, whats your problem with it?

[ssjup81]

or what if the kraang brainwashed irma because she was close to aprilThis wouldn't bother me much, just as long as the turtles get finally revealed to her. lol

[Ninturtle]

Check the credits. It wasn't a bad episode in my opinion, whats your problem with it?

Well I'm not sure how he feels but the Casey Donnie feud was already handeled in wormquake who needed it to repeat again , And I don't like the concept of q ghost in this TMNT show because it's a bit realistic unless it had a kraang origin he didn't have a good explination on how they put him in the dagger . And it's 3 episodes way from the finale we don't need filler , this is the same problem i had with Parasitica .

[Megchan]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10639454_1532942573605935_8485431582688496142_n.jp g?oh=a282fbd5fc4400f99d1eaf18869ae720&oe=5496560F&__gda__=1418050608_fd5b8bbc786cafe1aaf0e4d80ce86e7 1

Oh, snap! Also thank you for the screenshot, kelliegrafie. ;3

[Netkeeper]

Well I'm not sure how he feels but the Casey Donnie feud was already handeled in wormquake who needed it to repeat again
Clearly the writers think it's funny or something or don't believe two people can REALLY be friends if they have romantic feelings for the same person.

Either way, everyone's sick of it.

[ssjup81]

Clearly the writers think it's funny or something or don't believe two people can REALLY be friends if they have romantic feelings for the same person.

Either way, everyone's sick of it.Glad you speak for everyone. :roll:

I can't get sick of something that hasn't been focused on much. The triangle hasn't been, imo, but I did feel it was played up way too much for the recent ep to the point that both Donnie and Casey came across as OOC, but everything in this ep seemed to be over the top, so I can't help but wonder if that was the original intention.

[shredder orokusaki]

Why Nick decided to air the episode on their website one week before they show it on tv? it is still going tomorow to be ton tv right?

[ssjup81]

Why Nick decided to air the episode on their website one week before they show it on tv? it is still going tomorow to be ton tv right?Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's going to air tomorrow.

[Metalwolf]

I wonder if they will be airing the next episode early too?

[victory_angel]

Rob Paulsen has stated in an interview about season 2 that Donnie and Casey would have an Adversarial relationship. Both would admit the other boy is a good guy to know and helpful on missions and things. But when it comes to April they wish the other would dry up and blow away.

Wormquake only got rid of the general dislike between Casey and Donnie, not the rivaly.

Before Good, Bad, and Casey Jones...Donnie had been the only turtle who was aware of Casey. The others knew of his existence, but Donnie is the only one who was aware of him.

After Good, Bad, and Casey Jones There is more or less a general dislike between the two of them. While we never see anything directly said, Casey has more then likely visited the lair enough times to get some idea that Donnie has feelings for April. And that has probably come up in conversations with Raph.

So the general dislike is because they both of them know they have feelings for April and they don't like the idea of someone else being with their love interest.

In Wormquake Donnie has to put aside his dislike for Casey because after they are separated from Leo, Raph, and Mikey. Donnie becomes the leader of their little group because the safety of both April and Casey is his responsibility. And they are able to let go of their mutual dislike and gain more of a respect as friends.

[Jephael]

I was so hoping Irma would finally meet the Turtles at the end, but sadly it didn't happen.

[MaximeLoonatic]

I was so hoping Irma would finally meet the Turtles at the end, but sadly it didn't happen.

There's always hope that it would happen. After all, all hint points that she will meet them; even Raph knows her name

[JTH]

:) The episode is available for purchase on ITunes now, so they are continuing how they run the operation.

So I can only assume it the same way on Amazon. :)

[tmntpower1988]

I was so hoping Irma would finally meet the Turtles at the end, but sadly it didn't happen.

Me too. I hate the way they treat Irma in this show. Casey is an asshole, I really hate him. I liked him in previous incarnations but the Nick incarnation I just can't stand.

[Xiewin]

Me too. I hate the way they treat Irma in this show. Casey is an asshole, I really hate him. I liked him in previous incarnations but the Nick incarnation I just can't stand.

Same. This is a terrible interpretation of Casey's character.

[Warhorse]

Same. This is a terrible interpretation of Casey's character.

They need to bring out his sister, so we can see the over protective older brother, it might be something his character really needs. So far, he just comes across as a guy who doesn't know how to act around females. April, he's possessive, and Irma, he obviously is back and forth with her. He may say stuff like he wishes she would get eaten up or something, but when they were stuck in that cage during the Rat King Returns, and she faints the first time, he instinctly reached and and broke her fall.

[BabyTurtles]

They need to bring out his sister, so we can see the over protective older brother, it might be something his character really needs. So far, he just comes across as a guy who doesn't know how to act around females. April, he's possessive, and Irma, he obviously is back and forth with her. He may say stuff like he wishes she would get eaten up or something, but when they were stuck in that cage during the Rat King Returns, and she faints the first time, he instinctly reached and and broke her fall.

Casey's not the only possessive dude toward April....

http://38.media.tumblr.com/6d9ea25b00daeac25970556771d00b81/tumblr_n0u13qXa6P1sq6mn5o1_400.gif

[Warhorse]

Casey's not the only possessive dude toward April....

http://38.media.tumblr.com/6d9ea25b00daeac25970556771d00b81/tumblr_n0u13qXa6P1sq6mn5o1_400.gif

Well, it is Raph he's pushing away, the one brother he tends to be at odds with. And, to make matters worst, to give an idea on how he thinks of Raphael, he was panicking when they first meet Casey, and he goes "You know what this means, "THERE ARE NOW TWO RAPHAEL'S!":lol:

But in wormquake, the whole thing with April yelling at Casey to stop it, and when she turns and sees the worm rubbing her butt, it makes me wonder if he's done this inappropriate action in the past. I can never see Donnie doing something like this.

[BabyTurtles]

Well, it is Raph he's pushing away, the one brother he tends to be at odds with. And, to make matters worst, to give an idea on how he thinks of Raphael, he was panicking when they first meet Casey, and he goes "You know what this means, "THERE ARE NOW TWO RAPHAEL'S!":lol:

But in wormquake, the whole thing with April yelling at Casey to stop it, and when she turns and sees the worm rubbing her butt, it makes me wonder if he's done this inappropriate action in the past. I can never see Donnie doing something like this.

well Donnie has been known to take pictures of her, create charts all about her, know exactly where she is during the day (like the park), and call her "Princess" and "my April"

so he might not be perverted....but he's still kinda creepy. XD

[victory_angel]

Again we have seen that picture Donnie at the park with April. Maybe that is a place they have felt was safe to hang out together topside. The Chart was list of scenario's where it would be possible for Donnie to hang out with April. If any thing that demonstrated Donnie is a strategist.

The princess and my April comments he has automatically apologized for hinting that he knew he had accidentally crossed a line that shouldn't have been crossed.

[ssjup81]

well Donnie has been known to take pictures of her, create charts all about her, know exactly where she is during the day (like the park), and call her "Princess" and "my April"

so he might not be perverted....but he's still kinda creepy. XDDonnie said either April was usually in the park at about that time studying or always studying. It makes sense for him to know that because he has a photo of both if them in the park. His brothers didn't react to his knowing of April being in the park...until he said "on a date" because that was something he wouldn't have known, and even then, it was an accident. He was walking, talking to himself and then saw them.

The chart thing showed that Donnie overthinks. The whole ep was about that, not just with April. He thought of scenarios as to how he can hang with her and make a good impression if the situations were to come up. I mean come on, the brothers didn't react to it. That chart also shows that he would be an excellent chess player. I wouldn't stand a chance against him. lol

The Princess and my April thing was there for pure embarrassment. When he said that my April/our April thing I cringed. lol

[ObiWanFan4life]

Just saw the episode, I liked it for the most part. Although, I still don't get why Ho Chan needed Irma to retain his physical appearance.

[NinjaPug]

IGN review. 8/10

http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/09/13/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-a-chinatown-ghost-story-review

[IndigoErth]

Interesting episode, I'm not sure I know quite all what just happened there yet lol (must catch a repeat), definitely a bit out of left field from episodes we left off with before it. Good to see Irma getting a little more of the story, but darn... no meeting yet. I love the first meetings. lol

[DVD]

The episode was ok. Very Big Trouble in Little China. Might watch that this afternoon .
First episode that I didn't find funny.

[kolaida]

It felt like a Jackie Chan Adventures episode to me, even down to a James Hong voiced magical mystical villain.

Which doesn't bother me one bit.

I felt that way, too. Also, reminded me a but if 2K3 turtles. I could not stop laughing when the Purple Dragons floated down to the ice rink. It moved fast, I half expected it to be continued. It wasn't my favorite episode, but I enjoyed it a lot!! Wanted more Raph or Mikey tho.

[IndigoErth]

I knew it, the ghost guy's voice WAS the same as father character of the main character in the Kung Fu Panda series. That threw me off a little to be honest, I kept thinking it had to be that goose. About as odd as coming across Special Agent Oso and hearing "happy Raph." lol

[Gunpowder]

Did this episode remind anyone else of Teen Titans? The episode with Lightning and Thunder, where Beast Boy manages to convince the latter that he's hurting people? That's all I could think about the entire time.

I knew it, the ghost guy's voice WAS the same as father character of the main character in the Kung Fu Panda series. That threw me off a little to be honest, I kept thinking it had to be that goose. About as odd as coming across Special Agent Oso and hearing "happy Raph." lol

He was also Chi-Fu in Mulan; but I forgot about that goose. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

He was also Chi-Fu in Mulan;
Omg you're right, I'll hear it forever now... lol

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome episode. I really liked how the guys had those powers and thought it was awesome. James Hong did a good job as Ho Chen and now I recognize him as Po's dad in Kung Fu Panda. I didn't know he voiced Chi-Fu in Mulan. That's awesome. As for Irma's powers, I believe they aren't special like April's and could be more the powers of observation and not anything else. I also didn't think that the Don vs. Casey stuff was that bad at all as many are making it out to be. Just your standard rivalry and that's it. Loved how April stabbed Ho Chen in the end and I wish Irma would have gotten to see the Turtles, but I'm sure that's coming up. I also liked Mikey's deduction of where snakes could hang out and am glad they referenced what's happened to Karai. Overall, a pretty interesting episode for sure. Can't wait for the next one.

[ToTheNines]

Like Powder said, awesome soundtrack. Best thing about the episode.

Also noticed that Whitman and Cipes sounded extra pitchy. Weird.

Anyways, I was left hoping for some progress in the mystery of April's powers.... or maybe Don actually learning a lesson. Oh well, still fun.

[THGhost]

"I see.. a yellow jumpsuit.... no, it's just a t-shirt" :lol:

Loved that. :lol:

Finally got to watch this. Awesome episode. Loved the Turtles and Purple Dragons with the thunder, lightning and wind powers.

Laughed so hard when Mikey burped and flew away :lol:

Dunno if anyone else has mentioned it, but the actor who voiced Ho Chan also voiced Dao Lon Wong in Jackie Chan Adventures. Recognised him immediately. Tsoi is also the same voice as Jackie Chan from the same show. :)

[NitpickingMask]

It felt like a Jackie Chan Adventures episode to me, even down to a James Hong voiced magical mystical villain.

Which doesn't bother me one bit.

Wait WAIT WAIIIIIIIIIIT

People here don't know about Big Trouble In Little China?

FOR SHAME PEOPLE

This episode is completely a reference to that cult movie, including villain by same actor :P Seriously, Ho Chan is almost completely Lo Pan from that movie!

Am I only one here who has seen that movie? I wasn't even born when it was made! Geez, please correct me if I'm wrong and someone in this forum that posted in this thread DID notice that

Edit: Ah, good, okay, at least two people on first page of thread noticed it :D Yay!

[Donnieangelo]

Those hats remind me of the Foot Elite from 2k3.


Hmm, nice hats. :lol:

[IndigoErth]

Those hats remind me of the Foot Elite from 2k3.


Hmm, nice hats. :lol:
Caught that too, esp after they said it. lol

Also... is the elemental-like bit hinting/touching on at those elemental type bad guys in the 2003 that later change and are the main bad guys in the Tribunal season?

[THGhost]

Those hats remind me of the Foot Elite from 2k3.


Hmm, nice hats. :lol:

I thought that too. :)

Wait WAIT WAIIIIIIIIIIT

People here don't know about Big Trouble In Little China?

FOR SHAME PEOPLE

This episode is completely a reference to that cult movie, including villain by same actor :P Seriously, Ho Chan is almost completely Lo Pan from that movie!

Am I only one here who has seen that movie? I wasn't even born when it was made! Geez, please correct me if I'm wrong and someone in this forum that posted in this thread DID notice that.

Edit: Ah, good, okay, at least two people on first page of thread noticed it :D Yay!

Wait, you don't know about Jackie Chan Adventures? FOR SHAME! :P

[Donnieangelo]

I thought that too. :)
Say what you will about the Foot but they do not skimp on the headgear!

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I thought about the nice hats thing, too. That was cool that they said it.

I've heard of Big Trouble in Little China but have never had the chance to see it. And now it makes sense when Ciro posted on his Facebook that Lo Pan was in the recording booth as James Hong voices Ho Chan.

[drgon78]

I love Big Trouble in Little China so I really enjoyed this episode.

[The Fifth Turtle]

Pretty good filler episode. I loved that most of the plot was taken from Big Trouble in Little China, such an interesting choice.

Well when the inspiration for Casey Jones came from Jack Burton......not to surprising :D:D

[NitpickingMask]

Wait, you don't know about Jackie Chan Adventures? FOR SHAME! :P

Nah, I do, but this didn't really have anything to do with Daolong Wong or whatever that guy's name was

[Karai Samurai]

Decent filler. Few things:

If Casey Jones refers to himself in third person one more time...
Surprisingly, an episode focused around Donnie's crush wasn't unbearable
IRMA has special powers?
"I see a yellow jumpsuit...no it's just a t-shirt" XD
It's nice that they're looking for Karai. Hopefully the Kraang don't have her.
Did they have to destroy that entire museum for that little fight?
Anyone have a screenshot of the Ho Chin's web page?
Between Pizza Face, the mushrooms, and Ho Chin, the writers are getting really creative with their villains. I appreciate the variety.
Loved that this episode was mutagen-free. Karai's mutation officially turned this show into a mutant fest.

[THGhost]

Nah, I do, but this didn't really have anything to do with Daolong Wong or whatever that guy's name was

Except that Ho Chan sounds exactly like him, and anyone who's seen JCA and not BTILC will instantly imagine Wong. :P

Then again, a lot (if not all) of James Hong's performances sound the same. He just has one of those kinds of voices I guess.

Anyone have a screenshot of the Ho Chin's web page?

I think you mean Ho Chan. Got ya covered though.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/THGhost/2-2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/THGhost/3-1.jpg

An interesting read. Apologies if the text is hard to read, Donnie was scrolling the entire time so it may have blurred the text a little.

Also...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y18/THGhost/1-2.jpg

A "What goat are you?" quiz? :lol:

"http://hochanhouse.com" is actually a real site, but not how it was depicted in the show. "http://infomania.com/daggersandstuff/hochan" on the other hand doesn't exist. :P

[TigerClaw]

Here's Black Nerd's review of this episode.

-zFMJf6hNzU

[victory_angel]

According to the information page, Ho Chan had a habit of giving curses for the littlest things. And he did say he would be back. So if he does come back do you think he would plan on cursing Donnie and Casey for their part in his defeat.

[NitpickingMask]

Between Pizza Face, the mushrooms, and Ho Chin, the writers are getting really creative with their villains. I appreciate the variety.
[/LIST]

Err as much as I like that movie, Ho Chan is exact same character as Lo Pan, so I don't know if you can call it creative when they are spoofing a movie

Except that Ho Chan sounds exactly like him, and anyone who's seen JCA and not BTILC will instantly imagine Wong. :P

Then again, a lot (if not all) of James Hong's performances sound the same. He just has one of those kinds of voices I guess.



So? He looks like Lo Pan, acts like Lo Pan, sounds like Lo Pan, Lo Pan has three minions called Rain Thunder and Storm wearing those straw hats things, his name sounds like Lo Pan, etc etc, clearly more common with Lo Pan :P

(Basically, yeah, you are right about that James Hong's performances sound the same. Duh. Hes not voice actor, hes actor, nobody would be interested in hearing him voice act if you couldn't recognize him)

[IndigoErth]

:teek: Whoever came up with that full Wikipedia-like page of text, that would never even be readable in the course of the episode, possibly never assumed to ever really be read or looked at closely by anyone, and yet it is an actual story/history and not simple small print nonsense to fill space... that is the kind of detail I have to admire, I salute you and your team.

[NitpickingMask]

:teek: Whoever came up with that full Wikipedia-like page of text, that would never even be readable in the course of the episode, possibly never assumed to ever really be read or looked at closely by anyone, and yet it is an actual story/history and not simple small print nonsense to fill space... that is the kind of detail I have to admire, I salute you and your team.

I would assume they did assume someone would pause video and read it and get few chuckles out of it <_< Since you know, recordings and such things ARE invented

[IndigoErth]

Perhaps Nick assumes... Though not everyone is going to go into that deep of meticulous detail on small stuff like that. I applaud it, but in terms of some of the environment/prop work I've done it would not be good use of my time when I've got more to be working on, though Nick has the advantage of a large team to afford to have someone spend time writing it up.

[Powder]

I know I sure did. Paused on my first viewing & soaked it all in. Was disappointed when Donnie scrolled down & the text repeated. :trazz:

[IndigoErth]

Was disappointed when Donnie scrolled down & the text repeated. :trazz:
lol Ok, that's kinda more what I'd expect, still a nice write up though.

[THGhost]

Did it repeat though? I couldn't read all of it because it made my eyes hurt. :teek:

So? He looks like Lo Pan, acts like Lo Pan, sounds like Lo Pan, Lo Pan has three minions called Rain Thunder and Storm wearing those straw hats things, his name sounds like Lo Pan, etc etc, clearly more common with Lo Pan :P)

All irrelevant if you haven't seen BTILC, which I will watch very soon though. :P

[ssjup81]

Did it repeat though? I couldn't read all of it because it made my eyes hurt. :teek:



All irrelevant if you haven't seen BTILC, which I will watch very soon though. :PI've never seen this or Jackie Chan Adventures. I remember when JCA started how I wanted to see it but couldn't because my area didn't get the WB.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

I would assume they did assume someone would pause video and read it and get few chuckles out of it <_< Since you know, recordings and such things ARE invented

I actually did plan to do that. LOL.

[BubblyShell22]

That's one awesome web page, and they really put effort in the article and all. No wonder Ho Chan is so bitter. He wants to be human to get revenge on people. I have a feeling he will be back and will seek revenge on the Turtles when he does. It's kind of ironic that he stepped on a turtle and then cursed said turtle.

[Karai Samurai]

Err as much as I like that movie, Ho Chan is exact same character as Lo Pan, so I don't know if you can call it creative when they are spoofing a movie


Good point. I never watched "Big Trouble in Little China" (a bit before my time...) so I didn't recognize this. Even then, I'm happy that we have a new villain that isn't a mutant. There are way too many mutants as there is.

[ssjup81]

I hope Ho Chan returns.

[blindturtle02]

This is one of the times that I agree. I actually thought the ghost guy was cool, and this episode didn't have the irritating feel like the Pizzaface episode or bore me like the Malachi one. Maybe they should send a few scary ghosts over to Shredder's lair, I'd love to see all of his baddies crap themselves in horror.

I hope they have more movie spoofs in the future :)

Yeah MW, I was hoping the same about the ghostly characters. When he mentioned finding himself a lair, I was thinking he was going to crash at Shredder's. Ah well. Maybe when he returns, he'll team up with the Foot. I can't wait to see Shredder's reaction if they ever meet. Not a bad filler episode, but not one of my favs. I liked the new villain and hope to see him again, but now I'm ready to get back to the main story arc of s2.

[THGhost]

Good point. I never watched "Big Trouble in Little China" (a bit before my time...) so I didn't recognize this. Even then, I'm happy that we have a new villain that isn't a mutant. There are way too many mutants as there is.

I hope Ho Chan returns.

As do I, he was a breath of fresh air.

I've never seen this or Jackie Chan Adventures. I remember when JCA started how I wanted to see it but couldn't because my area didn't get the WB.

I highly recommend it, if you can find it. It's not exactly available in its entirety by legal means. ;)

[victory_angel]

According to that Wikipage Donnie and Casey were looking at, it said Ho Chan did have a penchant for cursing stuff. Such as for example he gained his "Enlightenment" by tripping over a small but very dense Turtle, rolling down a steep hill and hitting his head on a small but dense rock. And then proceeded to throw said rock and the Turtle and curse to roll down hills forever.

And later a kind hearted man gives him his turban, but after trying it on Ho Chan didn't like how it made his head look small and cursed the kind hearted man so he would be sunburned all over his body forever

Perhaps if he returns, he would be coming back with the intent of cursing Casey and Donnie for their part in his defeat. Technically he would want to curse April as well as she is the person who traps him in that dagger again, but as a he needs April in order to become human he can't really curse her.

[Metalwolf]

Yeah MW, I was hoping the same about the ghostly characters. When he mentioned finding himself a lair, I was thinking he was going to crash at Shredder's. Ah well. Maybe when he returns, he'll team up with the Foot. I can't wait to see Shredder's reaction if they ever meet. Not a bad filler episode, but not one of my favs. I liked the new villain and hope to see him again, but now I'm ready to get back to the main story arc of s2.That would have been cool if he tried to take over Shredder's lair, because we rarely get to see Shredder doing stuff unless it's directly involving the Turtles or Splinter. I would even say that this would have been even better if they had gone this route, and even made it only be between the Foot and the ghost, so that we got to see how the Foot deals with things. I'd be surprised if they never got to deal with weirdness, and it's only the Turtles that run into this stuff.

[snake]

I hope Ho Chan returns.

Add him to the long list of characters that need to return.

[IndigoErth]

I hope Ho Chan returns.
Just throwing the dagger off the pier, surely a return is inevitable. :)

Could take inspiration from hurricanes Irene and Sandy and have a storm-related episode that washes the dagger back onto land. (Threat of lair flooding, Turtles and Splinter camp out at April's place...)

[TigerClaw]

Just throwing the dagger off the pier, surely a return is inevitable. :)

Could take inspiration from hurricanes Irene and Sandy and have a storm-related episode that washes the dagger back onto land. (Threat of lair flooding, Turtles and Splinter camp out at April's place...)
Yeah, I don't think we seen the last of him. Surely someone is bound to find the dagger underwater, one of those Deep Sea Divers could probably find the Dagger and take it back to the surface.

[BubblyShell22]

Ho Chan pretty much said he'd return as Donnie was throwing the dagger into the river, so you can bet he'll be back for sure.

[ssjup81]

Ok, just randomly thought of this, but what if Ho Chan, in a solid form was doused with mutagen? In a comedic sense.

*One of the characters asks him a question*

Character: You need Irma?! What powers does she have?
Ho Chan: I don't know?! (Mutagen drops from nowhere)

:P

[blindturtle02]

That would have been cool if he tried to take over Shredder's lair, because we rarely get to see Shredder doing stuff unless it's directly involving the Turtles or Splinter. I would even say that this would have been even better if they had gone this route, and even made it only be between the Foot and the ghost, so that we got to see how the Foot deals with things. I'd be surprised if they never got to deal with weirdness, and it's only the Turtles that run into this stuff.

I'd love to hear what Shredder has to say about this guy. I'm wondering how quickly he'd lose patience with Ho Chan?

[BubblyShell22]

You can bet he'll lose patience with him if he can't defeat the Turtles. That's just how Shredder is.

[victory_angel]

Ok, just randomly thought of this, but what if Ho Chan, in a solid form was doused with mutagen? In a comedic sense.

*One of the characters asks him a question*

Character: You need Irma?! What powers does she have?
Ho Chan: I don't know?! (Mutagen drops from nowhere)

:P

Alla one of the old Canadian comedy shows Nick had back in the day, namely "You Can't DO That On Television"

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[ShelleyQuick]

Alla one of the old Canadian comedy shows Nick had back in the day, namely "You Can't DO That On Television"

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It was in America also, I loved that show!

[ssjup81]

Glad you got the reference. Used to watch it faithfully back in the 80s. I wish the Canadian versions of the 1981 eps would be unearthed and "discovered" since for the first two seasons (1979, 1981) the show was live and an hour long. The 1979 eps were never shown outside of Canada, 'cept for a few clips here or there on that VHS that was put out talking about the history of the show from about '87 or '88 hosted by Doug, Vanessa, and Adam. They showed the first sliming.

I love those 1979 eps. It's just great singing Jonothan Gebert, Kevin Somers, Kevin Schenk, and Rodney Helal (they all left after 1981, which was sad because as a kid I really liked Rodney and they had a missed love triangle opportunity between him, Lisa, and Kevin Kubacheske...I also liked how he played off of Lisa ). Pretty much everyone getting off the bus in the intro was a part of the 1979 cast, and liked all of them. lol

[IndigoErth]

Alla one of the old Canadian comedy shows Nick had back in the day, namely "You Can't DO That On Television"
lol Every now and then that show comes to mind. The good ol' birthplace of the slime I believe.:lol:

[drgon78]

Yes, that show is the birthplace of the green slime on Nick.

[ssjup81]

It was in America also, I loved that show!With season 2, you can tell which parts were reshot and which were original.

As I mentioned the first two seasons of You Can't Do That on Television were an hour long and live (no audience and no terrible laugh track). They would even have phone in competitions, contests, and announcements for local events in Ottawa and a music segment.

The 1979 eps were never aired outside of Canada. We started with the second season (1981). They cut the eps down to a half hour and dropped anything referencing Canada or jokes only Canadians would get (like the bus and post office jokes and how bad they were or about how flashy Toronto was) and anything deemed inappropriate in the US, like that one opposites sketch when I think Kevin Schenk was given a playboy magazine to read by the teacher instead of his text or something.

Anyway going slightly back on topic, they had to sometimes reshoot scenes for the non-Canadian viewers. One that comes to mind is my favorite season 2 ep Sexual Inequality. There's one part where Rodney had to make an announcement and he gets pied. It was for a t-shirt and to write in. The US version he's introducing kids telling jokes, but still gets randomly pied. The Canadian version was funnier, imo. "Who's laughing. I'm gonna kill you." or something like that. In the reshoot, he has a ton more hair. The other reshoot was a sliming.

Brodie kept getting out of being slimed the whole ep. Whenever he was supposed to have been slimed, Christine got it. At the end, in the Canadian version, with all that were in the ep (Lisa, Brodie, Kevin Kubacheske, Rodney, and Christine) she asks him a question about where the roving camera was going to be (to tape kids telling jokes), and he said "I don't know" and was slimed. In the US version, no Kevin K on the set for this (he shot up by the time 1982 came around, so maybe he had a growth spurt by the time of the reshoot, Rodney was a bit taller than Lisa with thicker hair) and Christine just dumped a bucket of slime on Brodie.

The rest of the series was done with an American audience in mind. No longer live and an hour. In Canada the show wasn't particularly popular, but in the US it became huge after airing on Nickelodeon. It was shown a lot weekday afternoons and weekends. I still remember some of the commercials vaguely when Nick's logo was still the silver pinball. lolYes, that show is the birthplace of the green slime on Nick.I remember the Nickelodeon Green Slime shampoo. Never had it though. Still nostalgic to think about, though.

My favorite season is probably the second (1981), but as a kid, I favored the fifth (1984).

Maybe it's the nostalgia talking, but 80s Nickelodeon was great. I'm glad that I was part of the first generation of the network, just like with the turtles craze. I'm honored that I was old enough to experience that too. ^_^

Geez, sorry for talking so much guys and going way off topic. ^^

[blindturtle02]

You guys mentioned Nick and slime. No wonder the writers enjoy playing around with the ooze in various episodes. I enjoy all the ooze stuff too, but then again, I was that 90's kid who played with soap and water in the bathroom sink and called it mutagen. I'd love to see Ho Chan's reaction to the ooze in a future episode.

[Ursalink]

I don't know what kind of powers Irma can have, according to Ho Shang, but I hope this means Irma will join the group soon.

[blindturtle02]

I don't know what kind of powers Irma can have, according to Ho Shang, but I hope this means Irma will join the group soon.

I hope so too. She probably will. I bet we'll see her holding her own during the invasion arc. She might learn about the guys somewhere within that two parter. That's what I'm hoping, at least. Seems like a great time for it to happen.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I have a feeling she'll eventually meet the Turtles at some point. It's bound to happen, and I can't wait until it does and how she reacts. I bet she'll faint since she has a habit of doing that.

[ssjup81]

Yeah, I have a feeling she'll eventually meet the Turtles at some point. It's bound to happen, and I can't wait until it does and how she reacts. I bet she'll faint since she has a habit of doing that.I hope she becomes good friends with Mikey since he hasn't had a human friend yet or a connection with one.

Leo/Karai
Donnie/April
Raph/Casey

[Warhorse]

I hope she becomes good friends with Mikey since he hasn't had a human friend yet or a connection with one.

Leo/Karai
Donnie/April
Raph/Casey

Yeah, Mikey sure does get the short end of the stick in the friendship department. Only true friend he does have is Leatherhead. Raph has Casey and Slash to an extend, Leo with Karai and Splinter, Donnie has April and Timothy. The only other thing Mikey might consider a friend would be Icecream Kitty, but would that really count?

[evan2000]

Yeah, Mikey sure does get the short end of the stick in the friendship department. Only true friend he does have is Leatherhead. Raph has Casey and Slash to an extend, Leo with Karai and Splinter, Donnie has April and Timothy. The only other thing Mikey might consider a friend would be Icecream Kitty, but would that really count?

I'd count that :trazz:

Plus there's Mondo Gecko coming up in Season 3!

Also he was the first one to have an "online friend", although that didn't last more than that episode itself.

[Kilowog]

I'm glad we live in a universe where there is a TMNT episode that is filled with Big Trouble in Little China homages

That movie ruled.

[snake]

All that Irma speculation is hard to read after the finale.

[Warhorse]

Yeah, right now, I just think the Irma thing is a bunch of bullsh!t. Almost a shark jump moment for me. I hated the twist! I just hope that the robot Irma was just an impersonation of the real Irma, who is locked up somewhere at the moment.

[sdp]

This felt like one of those weird one off OT episodes or an episode from the mediocre Ninja Tribunal season of 2k3. I liked the chinese mithology angle and that it tried something new though which is nice but other than that this episode was rather mediocre at best.

[NoName999]

**** Nickelodeon for poor advertising.

I didn't know the show was showing new eps again. So I'm hella behind now. :/

This was en okay filler ep. Although Hou Chen's voice got grating after 5 seconds. lol

[Sumac]

So, basically the whole episode is a token aesop about rivals who ends up as friends after participating in dangerous adventures. Duh.

But since the whole thing was an awesome big tribute to the "Big Trouble in Little China" I can't say it was totally bad. Too OTish, but not bad.

Hou Chen was awesome and would have made an interesting recurring villain. But of course, Nick will made more mutants instead. Eh.

I give 3 Thunder Bros. out of 3.